The Death of Sealed Product

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  • @loopiloop
    @loopiloop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I buy the clown gas because there's a 90% chance the "regular" gas pumps dispense corn syrup into my tank, while the clown gas pumps always dispense gas.

  • @hexzero3
    @hexzero3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    one thing that i noticed here in japan with TCG being so huge, to bypass people trying to guess by weight or scan and also thieves is that most stores doesnt even allow you to handle the packs when you buy it, in the card game isle, there is just a bunch of templates hanged on the shelves with the set promotion images, you bring one of those to the counter, and they will bring you the packs at random from the box that is either behind the counter or in the stock. also, they put limitations on only 1~3 packs per person (specially on new releases) because on how fast it sells. so if you need more than that, you just buy an entire box online.

    • @Signerdragon123
      @Signerdragon123 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hexzero3 I can speak for that from my visit. Some stores did have packs up front, but only for much older sets.

  • @ManuelRiccobono
    @ManuelRiccobono 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    People that buy sealed be like "LET'S GO GAMBLING"

    • @milamaxwell1731
      @milamaxwell1731 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Awww dang it
      Awww dang it
      Awww dang it

    • @gusbanks2440
      @gusbanks2440 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Awww dang it

    • @mosstheboss3764
      @mosstheboss3764 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Awww dang it

    • @Leo98pm
      @Leo98pm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      AWWW YEAH YEAH

    • @Signerdragon123
      @Signerdragon123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me: Have fun getting potential radiation sickness idiots.

  • @KevinTangYT
    @KevinTangYT 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Konami just keep banking on players with Stockholm Syndrome. The depth and enjoyment of this game is not commensurate with the sealed product cost. The sooner the player base knows this and only buys product with food pull rates, the more Konami will have to design sets that encourage buying the box rather than singles.

  • @Richiedoesmc
    @Richiedoesmc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    I’ve gotten 4 ultimate from its packs and 2 of them were off center miss cut. Konami does not give a shit about product quality.

    • @memes_gbc674
      @memes_gbc674 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the amount of off center cards i've gotten from my packs is disappointing, a have a whole binder full of them

  • @riccardomartina9517
    @riccardomartina9517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    For the first time ever, I can safely say that yes, Yu-Gi-Oh is starting to die for real. I'm part of a group of very dedicated, very active competitive Yu-Gi-Oh players: between all of us we've got like 3 major feature matches and several premiere event tops (last one being a top 16 in ycs Bologna 2023). We've been to basically every ycs we could, and now... It's just over. Most of my friends are now playing Magic the gathering and have sold off their Yu-Gi-Oh collections, or are at least considering to do so (me included!). I never thought the day would come, but we too, who once thought of ourselves as die-hard fans, are losing interest and hope in this game. And it's really sad, and this is 100% konami's fault. I feel like we're rapidly approaching a point of no return, and this time, unlike the other 99 times the game was dying, it feels very, very real.

    • @riccardomartina9517
      @riccardomartina9517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sry this is probably not the place for this rant but I just wanted to let this out of my chest lmao

    • @michaelkeha
      @michaelkeha 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I mean a good few of their other near deaths were as real don't forget the upper deck law suit could have been it for yugioh outside Japan for example

    • @werewolfjedi38
      @werewolfjedi38 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well the n, if the game just falls off a cliff. They might finally do a restart or reboot or something that can fix the brand.
      Vanguard had to do this twice to get things right, and now I think they are in a fairly good position gameplay wise. They just have other issues. (Like the fact the parent company keeps making competition to it's own product. Like come on.)

  • @TheGuyWhoIsSitting
    @TheGuyWhoIsSitting 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    If you bought 20 packs and then came back with 15 packs to return I’d have several questions.

    • @AkhierDragonheart
      @AkhierDragonheart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They wouldn't buy them all in one batch. They'd be buying in smaller batches and from a bunch of stores. Then return them to different stores so it doesn't look as sus.
      Though they totally could buy 20 packs and then return 15 as long as those packs didn't look like they were tampered with. Why? Because the employee behind the desk would have to care about this thing specifically. They don't. They'll just throw those 15 packs back up on the shelf and kids will buy them. After all, there is nothing wrong with those packs. They have the cards in them that they're supposed to have. They just won't have any good cards.

  • @toadstooltadd3843
    @toadstooltadd3843 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    So would I rather pay 20 bucks for a gallon of gas, or 3 bucks for a gallon of something, with a 1 in 100 chance of it being gas

    • @Signerdragon123
      @Signerdragon123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That and potential radiation sickness.

  • @davidgarcia533
    @davidgarcia533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think that a full box should have every card in the expansión, but the diferent rares shuold be, exactly, rare, like one in a case or something, so the player know "I have to buy 3 boxes to have all I really want" meanwhile the collectors buy the overprice cards for the shine and not for the use

    • @emanuelmoreno2272
      @emanuelmoreno2272 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Me gusta tu
      Idea para los sets constructores de deck

  • @silv3r7ongue97
    @silv3r7ongue97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I remember when I found out people could weigh packs and tell.. I stopped buying single packs even from locals I realized certain boxes that were mapped out I never got hits in those sets from my locals.. i don’t want to assume but I know for a fact the one worker resells cards himself and is pretty sus.. if it’s not a full box or singles I don’t buy from them any more

    • @ll01dm
      @ll01dm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      as a side to this. WOTC added the special weight card so you couldn't do that any more @3:24 so wotc or konami do probably care somewhat if they get pressure from distributors or stores.

    • @babrad
      @babrad 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I successfully mapped which pack had the secrets and ultras in a box (core sets) by opening 3 packs, proved it to our OTS with my own prize support, and then convinced the owner about it so now we open a new box where its packs are randomized. But this is trivial.
      The more important issues are in case openings, where if a starlight was opened, the rest of the case was sold as separate boxes. This was very relevant with Ten Thousand Dragon.

    • @TheGreatKingChiba
      @TheGreatKingChiba 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I used to weigh Yugioh packs at Walmart back around the Shadow Spectres era. I had a little gram scale I would just sit on the shelf in the aisle and weigh the packs and then buy only the ones that weighed the most.
      That's the only way I was willing to buy individual packs. Beyond that I bought boxes up until shortly after The Secret Forces era. Buying product has pretty much been a scam since then.

    • @KaoruMzk
      @KaoruMzk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The reason Konami started including a foil card in every pack was precisely because of scalers.

  • @yogsothoth915
    @yogsothoth915 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To advocate for them, being upset with the giving up on the TCG and playing Masterduel are two different things. Masterduel requires less investment and travel, so playing it is pretty effortless. Meanwhile, playing paper is pretty easy to imagine giving up if the tradeoff of having a better format isn't as good anymore.

  • @RazielTheUnborn
    @RazielTheUnborn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I had bought around $350 in boxes for Burst of Destiny chasing DPE. I never got a single DPE. I hit zero Starlight Rares. I got one Mo Ye. Two Masquarades. Two Lord of the Heavenly Prison. One Incredible Ecclesia. One Small World. $350 in boxes. The absolute last box I bought was one box of Valiant Smasher trying to get Labrynth.

  • @nintenx1235
    @nintenx1235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    TBH i think TCG players will switch to OCG and just import cards before the game actually dies.

  • @heartoftheswag2534
    @heartoftheswag2534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw a TH-cam video by a channel called "MonkeyFight TCG" where he did an analysis of "Sponsored Product Pulls and if Konami rigs them compared to normal consummer pulls."
    What's interesting is that in his research gathered from multiple bulk case openings is that the average return on a box of Battles of Legends: Terminal Revenge is $30 to $50 based on the prices of the singles pulled.
    That's $50 to $30 loss on a box costing $80.

  • @Shippo89
    @Shippo89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Force of Will TCG was actually pretty good with pack value. 10 cards, 1 Rare, 2 Uncommons, 1 "resource", 1 foil (later sets have this as any card), and 5 commons. If you pulled a SR it replaced one of the commons. So a pack could potentially contain 1 SR, 1 foil SR, and 1 Rare. Some products would nearly give you a playset of everything (except for Ruler "deck leader" cards).
    Not uncommon to get EVERYTHING in 2 boxes.
    Of course this also meant that the secondary market was EXTREMELY low with only a handful of cards breaking the $20 mark. Great for people getting into the game, no so great for sellers.
    Funny enough, one reason you've probably never heard of FoW is because many distributors dropped it following a side set. The set only had 50 cards and was intended as an experiment (small side-sets to support previous main set strategies). The issue is that FoW was selling really well, the first 3 sets just couldn't stay in stock. So they over-ordered the 4th set. And with the previously mentioned pull-rates, everyone got a playset of everything with a single booster box (36 packs). So stores and distributors were left drowning in product no one wanted anymore.

  • @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca
    @catcatcatcatcatcatcatcatcatca 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is a very clear reason to care about it: it takes at most two product cycles before the change in demand is reflected by the whole chain. If consumers don’t see sealed products as interesting, and if there isn’t enough demand for single cards for a reseller to invest more heavily in them to meet the demand, then Konami is going to sell less cardboard.
    Consumers losing the basic trust for sealed products is very obviously bad for the core business, you can’t count on wallmart or the distributors not adjusting their orders.

  • @ryoandr
    @ryoandr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Kevin T was the worst thing ever for yugioh, the fact that they rehired him at some point is mind bogling.
    IIRC there was a post on pojo about someone visiting UDE, and that everyone was extremely nice there. Everyone except one, singular, person...

  • @peekay120
    @peekay120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the clown has analogy, because the clown gas IS the sealed product

    • @AkhierDragonheart
      @AkhierDragonheart 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And instead of pumping the gas like every other gas station, they have a slot machine on the pump and maybe despite paying more money than you could spend and get exactly what you want elsewhere, all you get from the clown gas is a balloon animal.

  • @Camelotsmoon
    @Camelotsmoon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    2:54 Well, I guess I should go take my pocket scale to Walmart right now and weigh some packs. Everyone is so pessimistic about everything (not just yugioh either, I guess)... If you recall, when people could weigh packs 20 years ago, Konami ended up addressing the issue by putting a foil in every pack and inventing blister packs, so if yugioh players end up manifesting their internal fears into a pocket sized CT scanner (losing your own fertility for yugioh in the process... Not like most are using it anyway who play this game lol), I am sure Konami could somehow address this also. You miss the incentive of people not going and buying packs, because they're too afraid they've been CT scanned... Which hurts their bottom line lol.

    • @motxmod
      @motxmod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Scaling still worked despite blisters and anti-theft stickers, you just needed to be cautious. Worse case, you just improve your odds at getting UR+ cards. I'd argue it's better than bringing in a radiation gun to the store.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's usually an employee watching that section of the store so good luck with that

  • @ronelm2000
    @ronelm2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing also with OCG cards is that they're directly competing with Pokemon, so they actually give a crap and makes all cards available at relatively low rarities, so playsets of almost everything are cheap. TCG is a nightmare, even for OCG people. I would rather play Asian English.

  • @Greg501-
    @Greg501- 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    So like, this only affects OTSs by forcing them to keep an eye out for scanners or do it themselves and sell those foil singles.

    • @TheGreatKingChiba
      @TheGreatKingChiba 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To be fair... I've never been to an OTS that kept cards out on the sales floor where people could do this in the first place. This is more of a problem for big box stores that have a "card aisle" where you can handle the packs individually.
      OTS stores normally keep their cards on shelves behind the counter and away from customer hands because of the ease of potential theft.

    • @AusVtuber
      @AusVtuber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No one is walking into an OTS with a CT scanner. That shit is literally radioactive.

  • @ll01dm
    @ll01dm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I've been trying out other card games but like. I feel all of them try to be a "better mtg" there aren't any that are trying to be a "better yugioh" TBF some people would say that's just magic, but I dunno. Also, I live in the UK so if it isn't like lorcana there are almost no locals for games that aren't the big three.

    • @jeancarlo37
      @jeancarlo37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      have you tryied vanguard? It's really fun, but it's hard to find the cards, luckly proxying is easy thx to top deck heros and the community is really okay with it

    • @larv23
      @larv23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Apprerently elestrals is the the new YGO-Like hotness if you want that, but if you want a *good* trading card game, play Flesh and Blood. Everything wrong with the macro of YGO and the governing body of Konami does not exist with FaB and the governing body of Legend Story Studios.

    • @AusVtuber
      @AusVtuber 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There's Digimon, DragonBall, One Piece, Lorcana, Flesh and Blood, Grand Archive. Those are all TCG's off the top of my head to choose from that aren't the big 3. Surely you can find at least ONE local nearby.

    • @ll01dm
      @ll01dm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AusVtuber there are no locals to play in for those games apart from Lorcana, for my town or the next 2 towns over like I said. There are 12 grand archive shops in the whole of the UK.

    • @tinfoilslacks3750
      @tinfoilslacks3750 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody is trying to be the new yugioh because yugioh is not very good

  • @ivanmaterazzo2631
    @ivanmaterazzo2631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gas analogy sounds more like: "why ppl decide to buy the allegedly overpriced clown gas (cards you actually want) instead of make a purchase in my loot box gas station? There you MAY win gas coupons (cards of interest), along with empty gas tanks (useless bulk).
    But hey there's more! If you put the effort to resell empty gas tanks for less than how they run on the market and if you resell the gas coupons you actually need for your car, congrats! Youll find yourself an employee of the pyramidal scheme of the loot box gas station with zero benefits for yourself, for the sake of favouring clown gas station's clients!"

  • @Freddisred
    @Freddisred 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is going to end with somebody accidentally dosing themselves with unhealthy levels of radiation, calling it now.

  • @CarlosDiaz-bs8vn
    @CarlosDiaz-bs8vn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The gas station argument is a good argument until you watch Ruxin opening +100 boxes for a single card, yeah clown gas makes more sense now.

  • @lepaladinesq
    @lepaladinesq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    YEAAAAA BOIIIIII WE LOVE GAMBLING

    • @r3zaful
      @r3zaful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      THE THRILL, THE EXCITEMENT THE CHANCE, THAT KEEPS ON GOING.. THAT IS WHAT JUSTIFY THE GAMBLE

  • @jeancarlo37
    @jeancarlo37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Has been like a year that I don't touch yugioh in general, just via youtube, and it's because playing this game is not economicaly a good idea, and the master duel meta is not fun a lot of the time, specialy the grind you gotta do, and that's a problem with magic as well, currently I'm trying vanguard cause it's really fun, but it has a lot of problems with product distribuition, fab is also expensive as hell, lorcana is impossible to find were I live, and I don't really belive OP is gonna last that long considering that they cought up with the manga already, in the end I will probably only have pokemon to play if things keep going this way, and I'm not playing that shit even if is the only thing to play

  • @MyHackrifice
    @MyHackrifice 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fake News Report: hi, no hate here. But The prices you were showing for the infinite forbidden were mostly the Korean card prices.- The prices are steadily going down some but these cards are in very high demand so you can almost call your own price. The Korean card prices being lumped in does hurt the market value I believe, but it’s better for the site marketing; making it seem as if the cards are cheaper.

  • @nostalgix6
    @nostalgix6 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nope, Konami would still care. I mean, if more gets sold, the incentive to make a 2nd printing is higher.

  • @navi0760
    @navi0760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Digimon and Pokemon would never

  • @Squidtoken
    @Squidtoken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This is a tangent but I think people commonly misunderstand the "hope is a girls name" quote. It seems to me like he wasn't saying thats its a bad name specifically because its for girls and utopia is a boy, but rather that its just a somewhat common ordinary human name and therefore not a good choice for a cool ace monster, in the same way that it would feel ridiculous if Yugi was summoning "Thomas the Dark Magician" or Jayden was summoning "Elemental Hero Jeffrey".
    A lot of his posts are ludicrous, like the clown gas shit, but I think he was right with the hope thing.

    • @resir9807
      @resir9807 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      That's why I despise Destiny Heroes, because Destiny is a girl's name

    • @liviousgameplay1755
      @liviousgameplay1755 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I never thought of it that was, but that makes a lot of since the more I think about it. Like BEWD, DM, and Stardust are titles, not really names. This also made me go back to the posts and them responses are some of the funniest complainiest things. like it’s just a card name, and def not one of the worst translations.

    • @NvrPhazed
      @NvrPhazed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I see your point, but he and you are still wrong. First of all, Hope Woven Dragon Spider Shark exists, 2nd, a word can simultaneously be a *somewhat* common name (231st in 2011), and also stand as a title or moniker. These things are not mutually exclusive and the idea that English speakers and readers would normally associate Hope as a boring normal name that shouldn't be on a card is a bold (and imo, dumb) assumption to make

    • @Squidtoken
      @Squidtoken 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@NvrPhazed Of course Hope is both a common word in addition to a name. It's not somehow totally unworkable, but if the association with a name exists for Hope and not the alternative, Utopia in this case, thats a point in favor of Utopia. Other cards do use words like Hope as you mention, or Destiny such as the Destiny heros that another comment pointed out, but these cases are 1) not the ace monster of a series protagonist, for whom the name is a lot more important and 2) use the word in a way which does not imply that it is the given name of a card. "Hope, the King of Wishes" pretty clearly implies that the monster's given name is Hope and his title is king of wishes, while a name like "Hope Woven Dragon Spider Shark" doesn't appear to have any sort of given name in it at all.

    • @NvrPhazed
      @NvrPhazed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Squidtoken That is a whole lot of words that mean nothing. Nobody serious is going to have a problem with the name Hope, and I find it shocking how little he and it appears you have faith in English readers and speakers.

  • @Onyxs
    @Onyxs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everytime I hear about another old post from Kevin, I’m convinced he just actually hates the community and doesn’t care at all what they think or want for the game

  • @slof69
    @slof69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    internet ruins stuff
    card games get meta gamed until theyre not fun and you cant simply buy things of chance anymore

  • @0ctorus
    @0ctorus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is Thailand a bigger market than the US? I don't know how well the Costco analogy works when Thailand is in the OCG. Also I know a ton of people who would play yugioh if competitive decks were around $100.

  • @texastyphun
    @texastyphun 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one is switching to Lorcana 🤣

  • @Hatchet_Gaming
    @Hatchet_Gaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lead lined packs. Ezpz.

    • @pcnazillpg5065
      @pcnazillpg5065 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People love lead in thier blood!

    • @rogeromalley1693
      @rogeromalley1693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Underrated comment

  • @arturolopez7092
    @arturolopez7092 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good no more lies

  • @curtisgoldthorpe6656
    @curtisgoldthorpe6656 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yu gi oh is a dead, dying and boring game. i wish more people would try out magic or hearthstone. yu gi oh has been gone for awhile and now it's just a macbre corpse

  • @RadicalSpikee
    @RadicalSpikee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I stopped watching once guy said tldr second time.