@@badvoodoo2097 If I'm reading the card correctly, it *could* target the Image, it just wouldn't do anything on its own. Pyroblast says "Destroy target permanent if it's blue", not "Destroy target blue permanent". The difference being, the first example can technically target permanents that aren't blue, but won't destroy them, while the second is restricted to only targeting blue permanents.
I really want to see a 5man commander game where everybody puts out an elesh norn. The last elesh norn to hit the table would wipe the the rest along with it
Thanks for bringing back the bigger card view for the opening hands! I love seeing the artwork, helps me remember cards easier. Plus happy to have the post game review again!
Fantastic game. What a crazy play with Ravages - hard to believe that card was ever printed! Really made for an interesting board state. Great interaction and game play. Love seeing deck variance. Awesome episode.
This is where Pyroblast works differently than REB. Pyroblast lets you target anything but only does something if it's a blue card. Phantasmal Image was currently a copy of Serra Ascendant but still has the illusion clause, so Pyroblast didn't destroy it, the sacrifice if targeted did
Presenting the decks, you said Elesh is a he... Is that a mistake? Or "he" is correct? For me Elesh is a she, and a very femenine considering she is a preator.
Trying to understand here. The turn after Zack played serra ascendant... Why didn't charles attack Zack to get him under 30 life? Was this a misplay, or did Charles not want to lose one of his bears? Was he afraid that Mike would have a way to bring back his lands? Just trying to understand, seemed like Charles had it if he focused out Zack before Mike.
From the beginning of the game though, I was betting on Zack to win. His deck was still Spicy, but seemed like more of a typical CEDH deck just based off of his commanders. I thought Charles definitely had the most spice with his Wicked White ways... Hah!
What I loved about this game is that this was just your good old casual beatdown win in cEDH. No crazy combos or anything, just punch your opponents to 0 like a boss.
Charles draws 7 from Wheel of Fortune. Because each of his opponents tried to draw 2 or more cards at once off of the wheel, the Alms Collector replaced their draw 7 effects with Charles and that opponent each drawing one instead.
If it makes you feel better you aren't necessarily missing out I looked into Mox Pearl tier and it was sold out last time I looked. (prolly changes based on how many games theg have booked.)
Who needs godo vs godo vs godo vs godo when you could have done norn v norn v norn v norn. In all seriousness though, I legit have a tymna & sakashima human cedh deck but I wanna make a 2nd more casual version with just the best esper humans and preators. Idk what it is about those partners but they're so fun to me.
Good game! I personally would have liked to have seen how a Thassa's Oracle win con would have been attempted in this game. I personally like Thoracle wins, and love all the stack interaction that goes into going for it.
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Hey so the Pyro blast couldn’t target the image? It becomes white with illusion as it’s additional type
@@badvoodoo2097 If I'm reading the card correctly, it *could* target the Image, it just wouldn't do anything on its own. Pyroblast says "Destroy target permanent if it's blue", not "Destroy target blue permanent". The difference being, the first example can technically target permanents that aren't blue, but won't destroy them, while the second is restricted to only targeting blue permanents.
Alternate title: Elesh Norn vs Elesh Norn vs Elesh Norn vs Manascrewed
The lands decks was manascrewed oh the sweet irony
"When everyone has an Elesh Norn out, nobody does." - The Incredibles, probably
When everybody has a norn, all creatures get -4/-4, which is rough.
@@emctwoo it's -6/-6 if everybody has a Elesh Norn and they're 0/1's
@@markpol10 it's-4/-4 for the other creatures, only elesh gets -6/-6
I really want to see a 5man commander game where everybody puts out an elesh norn. The last elesh norn to hit the table would wipe the the rest along with it
@@markpol10 They're actually -2/1s. The difference matters occasionally.
This whole game is literally just that Spider-Man pointing meme, but with Elesh Norn instead of Spider-Man.
thank you for bringing the reviews back, I, and probably everyone here missed them
it was so odd not having them haha
0 spells countered! I'm sure that's not a first, but it felt like it.
Lots of fun to watch, and thanks for bringing back the recap :)
Would be a nice CEDH style: no counter CEDH
I love that the Windgrace deck lost to landscrew.
So much karma! Especially with the World Shaper in play just before it.
The Elesh Norn deck may not have won the game, but her card was for sure the MVP.
A grand cenobattle
This comment was the true winner of this game.
Ryan with the Tango Twisted Fate and Evelynn man has good taste in art.
Wow just noticed thanks to you, man does have good taste.
Yeah I was wondering if anybody else noticed that
I want to know where he got that mat
I like the part when Elesh Norn was cast.
Unironically, me too.
By far the best part
The third cast was a real treat.
“We highly recommend you add this card to your game.”
Wotc be like let me just step right on in.
This game had so many "fuck yeah" moments. Elesh Norn at every point for each player that cast her was amazing.
Ah yes, my favorite TH-cam channel: Playing with Elesh Norn MTG
That Elesh Norn at the end is a true chef's kiss.
Playing with Power: Hey guys have some Elesh Norn on top of your Elesh Norn with a side of Elesh Norn.
I love that the dude that seemed stacked out of the game came back and took the W 😂😂 I was laughing so hard
3 white hatebear decks and MLD, that's my kind of cedh
Thanks for bringing back the bigger card view for the opening hands! I love seeing the artwork, helps me remember cards easier. Plus happy to have the post game review again!
Man, that game was intense. That clutch alms collector was awesome. Also pretty cool playmat, Ryan ^^
Fantastic game. What a crazy play with Ravages - hard to believe that card was ever printed! Really made for an interesting board state. Great interaction and game play. Love seeing deck variance. Awesome episode.
I like how you include the sleeves that everyone is using in the intro's! Very convenient!
man that was the most insane game yet!! three decks all with elesh norn?! dude that's rude I love it lol
The recaps are back! Man I missed them, good to see them again! And that was a great game.
i swear this was the best EDH/CEDH game ive watched in a while. Love CEDH gameplay, i play Najeela
Great game. Loving the content.
Im scratching my head @11:49. Is phantasmal image a valid target for Pyroblast? Is it not copying a white creature?
Pyroblast destroys a permanent *if* it is blue. Any permanent or spell is a valid target.
This is where Pyroblast works differently than REB. Pyroblast lets you target anything but only does something if it's a blue card. Phantasmal Image was currently a copy of Serra Ascendant but still has the illusion clause, so Pyroblast didn't destroy it, the sacrifice if targeted did
Wooo! Thank you guys for doing the post-game wrap up again!
I've heard Serra Ascendant is pretty good.
Wow what the fuck. Big props to Charles though for sticking around. That was a fun game
Wait, you can win by multiple instances of combat in CEDH?
You guys are killing it 👍
love these beatdown style cedh games
Zack just sits there looking at everyone slugging it at each other then swoops in for the win. I've never laughed so hard watching a cEDH game before.
I am so happy the end of game discussion is back
Spells Countered: 0, well, you don't see that very often in cEDH :D
Great game as always and man so many norns just why. Glade the end game recap is back.
Love the league of legends Salsa Evelyn and Twisted Fate playmate!!!
Phyrexian Praetor? The creature type has been compleated.
Does anyone know where Ryan got his playmat from?
But phantasmal image was a copy of a white permanent, how could it be targeted by pyroblast?
Ok, i googled. Suprised to see it can target any permanent, just not destroy it unless its blue
This is the functional difference between Red Elemental Blast and Pyroblast. Good niche gameplay stuff.
What version were the taiga and savannah at the beginning? Haven’t seen those ones before, and I am kinda curious if they are cheaper
The card fetcher shows the Vintage Masters versions. Only available online (MTGO) and not in paper unfortunately. Maybe one day...
Okay
I'd be curious to see some budget decklists for Veil Teferi and the like.
That chain of vapor at 9:03 was the game winning card. Once Zack stayed above 30 the lifegain was just too strong.
Damn that Serra ascendant timing was FILTHY. Great game
Only needed to see Elesh Norn to know which Charles this was haha! Great game!
Is Ryan’s playmat Evelyn and Twisted Fate from League of Legends?
Splash art from Tango Evelynn/Twisted Fate.
Great Game :) Go Charles Go!! :D
So does Charles actually play other colours or...? Not sure how many fresh takes on monowhite stax there are
Geez playing against Charles would give me a brain aneurysm. I’d be screaming!! Gg’s guys, thanks for the game.
How about all planeswalker commanders episode?
I think Teferi Chain Veil would have a pretty big advantage here.
Mike: playing a land destruction deck
Also Mike: couldn’t handle land destruction
Yaaay end game talk is back!
Is phantasmal image an etb trigger? If so that would've really changed the game
No. It’s not a trigger.
My Cloney boi and Tymna the Shade Weaver, yassss gurl, yassssss!!!!
Game Review is back! 👏👏👏
MVP #2 goes to Raveges of War. That card alone shifted the flow of the game entirely almost as heavy as Elesh Norn did
Presenting the decks, you said Elesh is a he... Is that a mistake? Or "he" is correct?
For me Elesh is a she, and a very femenine considering she is a preator.
I'd love to feature my Windgrace deck on here someday
Share it!
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG I'm at work right now, but when I get home I will put the list on tapped out and share in this comment thread
This was great.
Really surprised Mike didn’t use the minus first as two lands in the bin would mean 4 lands for turn 3. It really came back to bite him
I still miss the old intro but will settle for the end of game review :)
Love me some 6/6 flyers with lifelink
Ravages of War should have been MVP, but Elesh Norn was definitely the highlight considering there were 3 casted.
I play Elesh Norn. I love this!
Thanks for bringing back the recap!!!
Windgrace cedh! That's a first for me!
I've always loved Windgrace and have been working on it for over a year now! -Mike
wait pyroblast can target phantasmal image? I thought phantasmal image was a copy of serra ascendant which is white.
You can target anything with it, just doesn't do anything if it's not blue
I think Mike unliked the video lmfaoooo
I fucking love Elesh Norn.
And you get and Elesh Norn, and you get an Elesh Norn, and you get an Elesh Norn!
Trying to understand here. The turn after Zack played serra ascendant... Why didn't charles attack Zack to get him under 30 life? Was this a misplay, or did Charles not want to lose one of his bears? Was he afraid that Mike would have a way to bring back his lands? Just trying to understand, seemed like Charles had it if he focused out Zack before Mike.
Lifelink on Serra Ascendant
@@zmonty011 What Zack said.
Oh, i see... Duh. Thanks :)
When mike used pyroblast on Serra ascendant phantasmal image clone wouldn’t it have been white?
Yes, but it still dies.
Post-game recap is back! I'm so happy!
This was the closest to a regular EDH game I've seen on the channel, and it was pretty darn fun, even if most decks were stax
This pod is wiiiiiiild
I dream of seeing elsha again..even tho I am not planning on building her at CEDH level.. but God if I love that monk
Ryan's Mana Confluence be like: ⬅️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️
My lord that Alms Collector play
Glad the reviews are back!
3 Elesh Norns in one game :o
woot wooooot game commentary is back! awesome!
Man this game seemed brutal to have to play through for Mike.
I love this Spicy Series.
From the beginning of the game though, I was betting on Zack to win. His deck was still Spicy, but seemed like more of a typical CEDH deck just based off of his commanders. I thought Charles definitely had the most spice with his Wicked White ways... Hah!
Doesn’t the lotus land that Ryan has have indestructible?
Hexproof
Elesh Norn, cEDH All-Star!
Yay game review!
Game recap/MVC has returned, and all is right in the Multiverse once again! Great game as always!
Spicy love it
What I loved about this game is that this was just your good old casual beatdown win in cEDH. No crazy combos or anything, just punch your opponents to 0 like a boss.
I love mike's Windgrace deck
How does Alms Collector force Charles to draw 10 while everyone else only draws one?
Charles draws 7 from Wheel of Fortune. Because each of his opponents tried to draw 2 or more cards at once off of the wheel, the Alms Collector replaced their draw 7 effects with Charles and that opponent each drawing one instead.
@@zehk7963 wow I'm dumb I completely forgot Charles gets a fresh 7 of his own
Charles must be loaded. Always in these mox pearl vids
Whooo the outros are back
Absolutely love your videos. Once I get in a better place financially, I'd love to become a part of the patreon! This content is exceptional
If it makes you feel better you aren't necessarily missing out I looked into Mox Pearl tier and it was sold out last time I looked. (prolly changes based on how many games theg have booked.)
@@phelandiller4066 I didn't know they sold out! Interesting. Thank you for your input 😊
Who needs godo vs godo vs godo vs godo when you could have done norn v norn v norn v norn. In all seriousness though, I legit have a tymna & sakashima human cedh deck but I wanna make a 2nd more casual version with just the best esper humans and preators. Idk what it is about those partners but they're so fun to me.
Elesh Tron, the Grand Cenobites
The game review is back.....I guess a lot of people complained lol
Good game!
I personally would have liked to have seen how a Thassa's Oracle win con would have been attempted in this game. I personally like Thoracle wins, and love all the stack interaction that goes into going for it.
Norn simulator 2021 looks great
elesh norn tribal you love to see it
Windgrace dying to monowhite MLD, hahaha
Perfect karma.