Industrial Sewing Machine Servo Motor vs. Clutch Motor
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- Industrial Sewing Machine Servo Motor and Clutch Motor. I talk about some of the differences and features of clutch and servo motors.
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Will this work with a Pfaff 545 H4?
I knew next to nothing about the differences between what a servo- motor or clutch motor are. Your videos are very clear and I always look forward to a new one. Alexander, thanks for all the teaching on your TH-cam videos.
Excellent description of a servo motor and its functions.
Just popped one of these onto my old brother b837. It is sewing like a new machine! So happy with it
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Thank you for your explanation. You're videos are very helpful. My husband installed a Rex servo on my Consew 206rb5. Looking forward to trying it out on thicker materials.
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Excellent. Thank you so much! Just received my first industrial- a Juki dnu1541s - a few weeks ago. You, sir, are a gift! Without your videos I’d have been lost! Yes I absolutely subscribed!
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BIG THANKS!!! This is the most comprehensive and simple comparison of Servo vs Clutch motors I've ever seen! He gets right to the questions anyone would have...A Great example of the generosity of the Strong People in this world...Stay Strong!
That is very generous of you. Thank you.
Another excellent video, I will be switching my Adler over soon.
I replaced my clutch motor with a brushless servo motor on my Bernina 217. I love it! So quiet and vibration free. Uses less electricity too. Along with the LED replacement lamp for my table, it’s fabulous.
are you use it at home, or in your factory?
Great explanation. It was extremely useful for me and answered all the questions I had.
Glad it was helpful!
i just got a servo motor very happy with it
Thank you very much. Super helpful. I appreciate you sharing your experience.
I have a brushless servo motor on my cylinder bed machine and it is perfect for me as it can stitch very slowly yet it has great power for the leathers I use. I added a needle position sensor to it and I like this feature as well. My skiver has a clutch motor and with the addition of a speed reducer it does what I need it to do. Different horses for different courses!
This is an excellent description of these motors. I just did a motor swap on my serger. I also replaced the table top (fully sunken type) as the weight of the old motor put a big sag in the old top. (old motor=boat anchor)
Good work
thank you for the explanations. I have a sewing machine rebuilt on servomotor. the best thing I could do. I'm so close to leather. the clutch motor I love very much when I make jeans
It is good to have options. Thank you for your nice comments. :-)
Terrific information and video editing.
Thanks for your comment, I always like when people notice the editing, that tends to be invisible for most.
Thank Alex, very informative
My pleasure!
Thank you.
Great, informative video. I owned a machine with a clutch motor, and all of the machines I use at work have servo motors. While I found the clutch motor to be more controllable than I had feared it might be, the servos are so much better. Just the fact that they're silent when turned on but not sewing is worth having one, to me. I am keeping my eyes peeled for my next industrial machine, and one of these motors will be the first upgrade!
Thanks for sharing your experience and insight Jason. I look forward to seeing your next industrial machine.
Hahahaha, how many machines with servo motors do you have now Jason?!
Great video. I have started to modify that servo motor some. I have a Consew 223 that needs reverse. I made the forward/ reverse switch remote. I am waiting for the spring loaded switch to come in so I can make a knee activated reverse switch. Nice and simple servo motor. Keep up the good work!
I know this is an old comment but I was wondering if your idea worked for you? I have a Singer 111w155 with no reverse.
@@rayislooking2 I have the same servo as this video shows. It has a reverse switch built into the housing. I imagine you just need to open the case up and route the wires out so, you can put the switch someplace accessible.
I don't particularly like this servo because when you turn the speed down, you end up with a decent amount of dead pedal before the machine starts to run. I'm thinking about getting the other style brushless instead.
I gotta get me one-a-them! Saving my pennies. Thanks!
I think you will like it.
I know I will. I've just been putting it off. One of those things... It's working why replace it? But it is time! Thanks again!
just ordered a servo motor hope all works out. install looks simple should be easy.
Sure, I bet you will be happy.
Going servo was money well spent when I did it. I had no need for a machine that with a bump of the foot would stitch two sets of sails for a tall ship, I want slow precise needle placement doing leather steering wheels and an adjustable variable speed servo controller give me exactly what I wanted. Well, I changed some pulley ratios around for the ultimate fine tuning. But with the twist of a knob she runs stupid fast, faster than I can think and control.
Another plus for a servo is when you are not using it there isnt a big ol clutch motor running and drinking electricity.
Thanks for sharing. My experience is very similar to yours and I agree.
Thanks
Well, DANG it! I want one of these so bad. I just don't know if I could ever find anybody to work on one around here. (And why do I need one anyway?) :o) I remember YEARS ago, Bernina made an "industrial" sewing machine that would sew real fast, and I THINK it even had zigzag on it, but I could be wrong about that. I think they ran about $2,000. I've NEVER forgotten it. I don't think they make them anymore. I'm just obsessed with these industrial machines. THANKS for the excellent video! Annette
Sounds like the Bernina 217. I have one that I will be demonstrating hopefully sooner rather than later. I like these very much and keep one in my personal collection.
I think that's it! That number sounds familiar. I wanted one of those SO badly, but at the time, they might as well have cost $100,000. :o)
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Your videos are my go-to for info to help me learn how to use and modify my Juki 1508. I just purchased the Enduro servo motor and 45mm pulley per your recommendations. Can you please provide some additional guidance on the proper belt for this combination? Thanks again for your professional work and commitment to share your experience...invaluable!
You will have to figure what length of belt you need. Then take that to the auto parts store, they have any length that you will need.
Have u ever used an older Brother 230v three phase servo motor (no separate control box)? If so, do u know if these can be rewired to 110v?
Thanks for a great channel with useful instruction. What's a better fit for a Nakajima 280L? Should I swap out with a 45mm pulley too?
For me, I go Servo every time. Watch this video and there are links in the description for all the items I like to use. th-cam.com/video/9JgGIk7WBE4/w-d-xo.html
Nice video. Any difference in slow speed control between the servo motors with and without brushes?
Of the two I show in the video, I find the control and feel of the motors to be very similar.
Is it easy to take the controller out and put it in a domestic style pedal for use with a machine i don't keep in a dedicated table or are the speed sensor and controller built in too deeply to move?
Great video! There are a few different ones by Enduro now. Is there one you prefer or recommend more? Seems that one is longer than shown here and some like this one may have more watts and rpms. Thanks!
I still like this one. Dead simple, slow enough and fast enough for me, never need more power than provided but you may have other requirements or desires.
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Troubleshooting? My machine has a servo motor but when I step on the pedal I get no movement. The power light comes on but I get no sewing power. Do you have any insight as to what my problem can be? My first thought was the fuse but not sure how to test that.
Thank you, you helped me a great deal.
how's the low end torque for sewing thicker materials. I have Pfaff 1245 706/48. I sew leather belts and holsters
I'm trying to cook up a mouthpiece controller for a double amputee for a servo powered sewing machine. Do you have any insight how I can do this?
Have you encountered a servo motor with needle up/down positioning? I was wondering how well it worked and if it impacted slow speed control.
I have used the needle positioner, I have it on one machine and I like it but just for certain things, I move the needle by hand without even thinking about it on the rest. I even had a very expensive Efka Industrial model, it was really nice but I sold it since I personally didn't use it much. As far as slow speed, that is still there but sometimes the machine advances a stitch in order to "position" the needle so that might be a hindrance for precise work. It depends on the person and the style of sewing that they do.
How about power usage between the two?
Hey I ordered a Consew CSM550-1 servo motor (The one you show in your video with the adjustment on the front of the servo motor. When it arrived they actually shipped me the CSMS1000 (one with the digital readout). I didn't realize the mistake until I tried to install the CSM100 and found out the pulley wouldn't line up without drilling new holes. You seem to be familiar with both servos. Is the digital type going to be a problem down the road or is one more desirable than the other? Thanks!
I have had both. The digital is brushless and the analog has brushes. They are both good. I prefer the brushed/analog motor.
can you do a video on how to install the needle positioner..
Maybe someday, Thanks for the idea.
Alexander, thanks man.. I have a Consew 206RB.. It kicks ass but it's way too fast for what I'm doing.. This servo motor sounds like the ticket..
I have a random question; I have some 18 ounce vinyl I need to make into bags for holding liquids (water).. What do you suggest for making the seams leak proof? They need to be able to withstand some knocking around and stretching..
I don't know man. My gut reaction is you need a vinyl/plastic welder. I am sure it is probably possible but the longevity of a waterproof flexible seam seems tenuous. But to be clear, I have zero experience with leak proof seems, maybe some of my viewers will have some insight. Thanks for your subscription.
Alexander Dyer I feel ya.. I can get it to seal with products like Hh66, but I still want to stitch it for strength.. Problem is stitches leave holes.. so I've been glueing and stitching at the same time, then glueing over the stitch holes.. it seems to work but I still don't trust it over the long haul.. perhaps weld and stitch but more money for heat welding machine and not even sure it would be that much better..
More money yes but actually the welded seams are hella strong. They are making awnings, tents and tarps which all have to be very strong. Many roof membranes are heat welded too. Anyway, just saying. Good luck in your endeavors.
Will this motor fit a tough sew machine
whether your electronic engine speed control module on the servo motor broke down? (with a handle for the speed of the electric motor)
I am not 100% sure what you are asking but I will say this. We live in a throw away society and what that means to me is that many things do not get fixed but rather thrown away and replaced by new. While that may not be my preference, I can understand it.
Hi. So I’m a bit confused. The motor u have is a Rex but u listed Enduro and Consew. So which one would you recommend?
The Enduro is my personal favorite but they are both good motors. The Enduro is the same as the Rex but the Enduro has been a more consistent supplier and so has earned my current endorsement. Once you see the picture I am sure you can recognize the likeness.
Will this fit Juki DDL 8100e to replace its standard motor that came with it?
Yes.
If this is for use only in a sewing machine, what use is the motor direction switch for when all machines turn the handwheel ccw under normal operation?
Blind stitch machines and overlock machines usually go the other way.
Mr. Dyer, have u ever converted a 220v three phase AC servo motor, with electronics on the machine, to a 110v servo motor? If so, did u lose/fry any electronic components on the machine? I just bought a Brother LS2-B837-310 with thread cutter w/F-40 panel, back tack, synchronizer and a pneumatic presser foot lift, but unfortunately it has a 220v three phase AC servo motor that I want to use on 110v household current. Any thoughts?
There are several 120 volt to 220 three phase inverter motor controllers available on ebay and Amazon that should work. The top speed is very adjustable to your skill level.
Which would you advice a beginner that sees thick fabrics to buy ?
I recommend the servo motor for beginners. There is a link in the description.
How do you tighten the belt on a servo motor?
Under the table, part of the servo component group is a long threaded rod. Two nuts allow adjustment and ability to lock in position desired.
so you like this style better then the small brushless one? can you turn it down to just slowly walking over the leather?
Yes. simple and easy to operate with a wider and therefore easier to control response range.
@@AlexanderDyer thanks
The brushless type have much more torque at low RPM's. I bought the consew CSM3000 1 HP and its unstoppable at low RPM's.
I just scored a chandler(adler) 67 gk373 for $300, what servo motor would you recommend to replace the clutch motor with?
This is the link from the description. amzn.to/3jNu2GW
Do the servo motors have the same power as the clutch motor?
Same power? I don't know. Plenty of power? yes. I have never felt like they were not strong enough.
Can you "slip" the brake for hand wheeling ?
Yes, same for both. Just a very slight depression of the pedal will release the brake.
Hi I purchased an industrial sewing machine and I have servo motor and the with a needle poisoner. The machine is still way to fast it does not have a dial on the motor to change the speed. I have a box that has a lights with numbers for speed I think I did not understand the difference in the motors. Mine is a New Tech servo motor model FX-650w 110v. 50 HX/60HZ. How do I slow it down?. Is this an older motor or it’s the package with the needle positioned? If you could help me understand this motor it would be helpful. Thank You Lorie
I can't help you with you servo motor. Hopefully you can find a manual to help make sense of the somewhat cryptic setting routine that those style seem to have. I prefer the more straight forward style primarily shown in this video. Here is a video to help slow a servo motor even more than it already is. th-cam.com/video/moVWAD6KCoI/w-d-xo.html
Are the juki 562, consew 226 and brother l2 b837 all knock offs of the same machine
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Thanks Alexander for the quick reply. Where are you located, anywhere close to Phoenix?
Missouri
Can I put this on a Vintage Singer 15-90 belted machine?
I think that would be possible.
Ive always been a fan of the old brush clutch motor they are work horses,
and machine can be slowed down with pulley`s
The modern brush less servo with computer seam to not last, and i think its because some motor design builds up heat if they get turned down and reduced to run at a low speed,.
I would go with the modern brushed no computer motors being a safer bet in my opinion,
I hear what you are saying about brushed motors. I will point out that the main servo featured in this video is a brushed motor. Not the one I show very briefly with digital but the main servo I show with the analog dial. The brushed motors have proven themselves to be reliable.
@@AlexanderDyer That`s what I said at the end but I should of said the more modern brush motor, ;-)
I own 7-33 big machines and old 132k6 45k1 29k-4 leather patcher and several others,
I like to work with leather, and canvas, I never have changed to a modern brush motor but I don`t doubt there performances just don`t know if they are capable of slow speed with the torque and how long they would last
My concern is being a lot less smaller wingdings being a slimmer motor,would this effect the torque when penetrating slow through leather?
Going back to the computer digital type , I have never been a fan of having to many little parts on a circuit board that it takes one capacitor or resister or chip to go and that`s that,unless you can find the fault,
I know the new type brush motor will have some type of capacitor etc in the function of using a speed control but it will be minimal,
I think you are on the right track on everything you say here. If you are completely happy with your clutch motor setups then there is absolutely no reason to change to anything else. Your clutch motors are no doubt the most bullet proof and powerful of all those in this discussion. Glad to hear your take. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Right?😉
There is a issue with the slimmer brush motor , that is being shown, it lacks torque,
you can crank it up well over a 1000 RPM and you can stop it with your hand,not that I recommend people do this but its true,
So you will have to put pulley reducing system to increase the torque,
You will get better torque with new certain brush-less `but I still like the older clutch,ones,
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Will this Servo motor work on a Consew 226?
Yes. 🍀
will this servo motor work on my consew 206rb-1 machine . it has a cluthch motor now. rex servo motor 105.00
Yeah it will work. This one is 102 today. amzn.to/2zuC92Z
Been doing upholstery around30 years have used both types servo is so much better
Hey servo motor will work for brother industrial machine?
Yes. Yes it will.
Alexander Dyer hey another question. It has 220v version? It may ship to israrl?
Try this guy. allamericansewing.net/
Can I just install a variable speed rheostat to the clutch motor
Try it and let me know how it works.
The answer is a no. An induction motor is a fixed speed motor based on its number of poles. If you put a rheostat on it, it will compensate by drawing more current and eventually burn the motor.
And what happen with of torq have the dame to the other motor
I have found torque to be very good and I sew some fairly heavy projects. Look at my channel to see some of my projects, most all are done with servo motors.
it's amazing how small the servo meters have gotten even since this video 5 years ago.
How noisy it is compared to the clutch motor?
Much more quiet. Practically silent.
Sir, Thanks a lot for the quick reply.... you're the best!!
I'm ready to buy my Enduro motor but I noticed there are 2 types in Amazon. Is the brushless better? Is the SM445-1 brushless better than the SM550? Thanks in advance. I want to save energy and less noice.
The cluch motor is dependable
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Hi I have always thought a brushless motor strains and over heats when placing a reducer dial to it they don`t like going slow with the amount of amps applied to them, I wonder if this is how they get around it by reducing the wattage entering the motor at the control box,
Does the clutch motor have bushes in side of them if so these could have a speed dial connected to them very easy and surely this would end up the better quality motor as they are very well built
I know this is more about options and advantages and disadvantages and not about trying to push people into buying a certain motor its just advice your giving.
So my comment is not being malicious in anyway . I am asking if what Ive replied is any of it correct
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Seems like its an instruction for servos. No comparison😞
Not sure what you are looking for. For me servo is the way to go, clutch motors are for industrial or speed situations. I am not industry or speed so there is not much I can show you in that arena. Here is another video of the clutch motor, maybe that will scratch your itch. th-cam.com/video/oQ0W90XfP6Y/w-d-xo.html
im looking for a servo motor where it will take the motor back to the 0 position...not using for sewing...what do i need to add or do to get that feature ....using for something like this
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I think you are looking for a motor with needle positioner aka synchronizer like this amzn.to/2z4NVjs
Misleading title. It's really about the servo motor and not a true compare/contrast with the clutch
My intent was to show the differences in a way that you could then make your own decision as to which is better for you. Was there something in particular that was not covered that you wish to learn?
@@AlexanderDyer - Yes, thank you! I bought an industrial the day before yesterday from an upholsterer who closed his shop after 47 years. (The machine is a 15yo Brother.) I was under the impression that all industrials were servo as opposed to vintage domestics that are clutch. After having my local tech clean it and hauling it home, I realized it is a clutch after all. This clutch isn't noisy or jumpy as I had been led to believe by other videos. But I am now wondering what this means for electricity consumption and other performance issues like you went in depth with about the servo. Thank you!!!!!
For context, I run a small business from home and it is kind of blowing up right now (thank G-d!) so I definitely needed the speed. Plus, the bulk of orders involve totes which are repetitive and standardized in nature.
Also, why would you want to reverse the direction of the motor's rotation. Nobody seems to explain in any of their videos why that is a desirable feature.