Surgeon Reacts to 5 Fascinating Body Modifications & BIID | Why Would You Do THIS?
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- In this reaction video, orthopedic surgeon Dr Chris Raynor reacts to some of the most fascinating body modifications that he can find on social media. Whether it's tattoos, piercings, implants, or surgical modification, Dr Chris covers it in this video. #blackalien #tattoo #surgery
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Be sure to let me know what modifications, if any, that you have. Also, let me know if you plan to get some/more. Are there any modifications that you think are just too much?
Piercings as they are temporary compared to tattoos.
Four of them at the moment.
Septum
Tounge bar
Nipples
Important to know with a toungebar is that you will chip your teeth if you are not carefull enought.
5 tattoos and 2 piercings in my lip that I don't wear often.
Would removed teeth due to overcrowding be considered a modification... I mean it was part of my orthodontal work so I guess that's technically related
Hey Chris!
My left ear cartilage is dermal punched at 00 gauge, or 10mm so I can fit my pencil through it when I draw.
Two ear lobe piercings on each side. Bridge piercing, central eyebrow piercings on both side and a vertical bridge piercing (third eye) in my forehead.
Septum piercing, labret piercing through my lower lip, medusa through my upper lip.
Plans include splitting my tongue (bifurcation), then piercing both sides, lilac eye tattoos.
Subdermal silicone forearm spiral implants, and subdermal silicone thumb spines.
Personally, I don't find any modifications to be "too much" per se.
However, some mods get to a point where it'll affect quality of life, and the piercer/cutter should advise against performing them.
Piercing the tongue horizontally, or putting dermals on your fingers are great examples of this.
Ok. So now those who are taken back by the sight of extreme mental illness being catered to, rather than treated by medical professionals are now "haters". Calling people haters because they see this as wrong and unethical is part of the problem. Shame on you!
I'm an arm amputee, and it's extremely messed up that someone glamorized amputation and thinks it's "cool" because it's not. Real people deal with this stuff every day.
So sorry
I can only imagine how it must feel, this just accents how much of mental health problem wishing for amputations or to be paraylzed is.
If it’s cool to them, why should anyone else care?
Sorry you had to go through this
I really can't wrap my heap around it. I'm not, and even then the little I can see about it... really, I can´t understand someone wanting it. IT IS NOT cool. It's hell on earth. And all my respect goes to whoever need to deal wit this, everyday.
I'm all for body mods but if somebody wants to chop off their legs or paralyze themselves, maayyyyybbbeee there is a mental issue that needs to be handled by a psychologist, not a surgeon.. just sayin'
Eh, to me it's just a lighter version of wanting to be euthanized. As long as they're of sound mind, not making the decision under any duress, and fully informed of the consequences I don't see the problem. Some people, such as my more-Catholic-than-the-Pope grandmother, would say that wanting to have holes punched in your ears is a matter for a psychologist and not a body piercer, so where do we draw the line?
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@@tjenadonn6158 so your incredibly well-thought-out argument is because somebody born 70 years ago thinks ear piercings are wrong, no line at all should be drawn? You truly are an antifa member…
As long as taxpayers don't have to pay for it. I've almost been an amputee twice. On two separate occasions. Both times I asked is there another way.
1st was an experiment second was a simple 3.5 hr outpatient. And 9 weeks in a cast.
@@tjenadonn6158 You draw the line at removing perfectly functioning body parts
Seeing these, I can’t help but think of my uncle Rodney. My Gpa had restaurants for 65 years before his death. My uncle worked for him prepping things in the afternoon for the evening. One day my younger uncle (his brother)visited him at the restaurant while he was working. Rod was putting pieces of beef into the grinder to make ground beef. He lost concentration for just a moment and ended up with his hand into the machine up to his wrist. The emt’s couldn’t get him loose from it so they had to take him to the hospital with it still attached. In the end he lost his whole hand. It was an unsightly amputation. Back in the 80’s they weren’t as skilled at these sort of things as they are now. Even though he sued the manufacturer of the machine, and won a huge amount, it still devastated him. He drank to deal with the phantom nerve pain and just couldn’t keep it under control. He died of alcoholism related illnesses. So, seeing people choose to do these sort of things absolutely boggles my mind.
I'm not gonna lie, I thought you said your GPA had restaurants and I was so confused on how your highschool grade average had restaurants
@@Sebastian-fy3hu that’s hilarious 😂
Dafuk is a GPA?!
@@TheFriendlyPsychopath it’s the universal abbreviation for Grandpa. I’m sorry if I confused you.
@@TheFriendlyPsychopath In the USA, GPA is how well one is doing in high school. A 4.0 GPA is like an A* or equivalent. So that's why some are confused.
I think it has to do with another form of dysmorphia. Period. Tattoos are one thing, but surgically altering yourself to have less than our human abilities is a horrible disorder to me. It sounds like an addiction just like any other - obsessive & compulsive
Yea it definitely is. They are so obsessed with trying to be unique they inevitably harm themselves.
@@rachelmm05 It`s not unique to be a cripple
I wonder if they can then file for disability or unemployment compensation ??
@@TIMEtoRIDE900 there's a lady (from TLC I think) who blinded herself willingly and now lives off disability I believe because she is 100% blind now. She appears briefly in this video I believe in a blue shirt with her eyes closed. He doesn't talk about her but she is infuriating imo
@@Sebastian-fy3hu I heard a story of a textile worker who got an arm taken off at work. They re-habbed the guy and gave him $250,000 and his first day back at work he stuck his OTHER arm into the machine !
As a dentist, I think about the time I refused to give a young man permanent vampire fangs. He later came back and thanked me when he got a real job that I talked him out of it. But I also have to admit that part of me struggles with some procedures that are considered OK in the dental and medical community. What about grinding the enamel off 16-20 perfectly good teeth for veneers (I try and talk people into Invisalign and whitening for better long term health). What about breast implants, especially abnormally large implants? And add to that todays controversies? What is the difference between amputating an ear, a finger, a leg or severing a spine because that is how someone identifies, versus doing a mastectomy of healthy breast tissue because a woman identifies as a man. I personally think when anyone wants to remove a perfectly healthy body part, which is irreversible, the medical community should at least require extensive counseling and therapy before the patient can go through with it.
I hope you always think this way. you do a great service to your patients unlike some others who will destroy people's bodies for money and disregard their oath to do no harm........ it seems to me that those nazi doctors have all come back and are practicing this evilness
I guess money talks, but I would be concerned with the pain of it all.
Yes, I agree with you. It seems that integrity is lacking across the board as far as making money is concerned...
I couldn't agree more. Well said.
@B T Luckily a bad haircut isn’t irreversible.
I had shoulder surgery a few years back. They completely numbed my arm to the point where all I felt was pressure. I could not raise or lower my arm any at all, unless I used my other arm. My arm kept falling out of the sling, but I did not even know it because it was so numb. They left a numbing pump in for 3 or 4 days. By the time it was a couple of days in, I was miserable, because I just wanted to be able feel and use my arm again. Maybe they should numb the people who think they want to be paralyzed for a few days and I'll bet they would change their minds.
what if they... didn't?
Brilliant 😉
Perfect
That's a brilliant idea!
Especially to the lady wanting to be paralyzed from the waist down, to show her just how hard it makes life
I lost one of my toes and part of my foot during a boating accident.
I still get horrible phantom pain, and I've a lot of sleep over it.
I can't imagine how messed up someone has to be to want to loose an arm or leg.
As someone who nearly died from a relatively minor surgery (adding a second Spinal Cord Stimulator at C2), I can’t imagine how pissed I’d be at myself if I’d wound up like that due to a totally unnecessary surgery. I now have 1 lung and it has fluid in it (multiple (6) bilateral pulmonary emboli with a cavitary pulmonary infarction) and life kinda sucks these days, especially as I’m struggling to find a pulmonologist who gives a shit.
🙏🙏🙏 your comment hurts my heart for you, I had my right lung collapse in 2005,it was miserable, I can't begin to understand the pain and suffering you go through, l am so sorry your living with that, I wish I could take away your pain and suffering.
I am so sorry that you have had to go through that. I will be thinking of you in good vibes and saying prayers. I feel for you as I have bipolar and copd and add. and I am a really serious video game addict and I am wired to sushi and good soup!!
Sorry, that sounds terribly frustrating. Good luck on your search, I wish you all the best.
damn bro lung issues are scary as fuck. also if u don't mind me asking seeing your comment was an year ago, u still alive?
A paper I read a while ago on BIID noted that they observed both the neurological version (with fMRI evidence), as well as a variant where no such variation in the fMRI scans was detected. This suggests that there is a neurological and psychological variant of BIID. The general conclusion about BIID by researchers based on the available evidence is that therapy is the way to go, not surgery.
In cases where the desired paralysis, amputation or similar was achieved (through self-mutilation or surgery), the BIID would often return again, whereas therapy had much better outcomes.
There's also a whole discussion going on about whether BIID (or 'Body Identity Dysphoria' as some call it) is the same as Gender Dysphoria or not, with a range of recent papers suggesting that GD and its extreme body modifications are in fact a form of BIID.
The big question here seems to be whether it's truly 'free will', when we're subject to so many external forces that push us towards accepting a certain kind of self-image. Just look at cosmetic surgery and the beauty ideals that each culture seeks to uphold. Where does free will begin, and social pressure end? When is it okay to remove healthy tissue to give into some feeling, or is it ever okay? When you're bullied because your ears are standing out, or your nose is rather large, cosmetic surgery seems tempting indeed, but that too comes with the risks of surgery, infections, etc.
There are still many grey zones here, it would seem, and a lot more research to be done.
Makes sense, the gut feeling would have leaned in the same direction, looking at the Gender Dysphoria and the existing studies and remorse with the surgery I am pretty sure there is more push on that end of the spectrum then for the BIID.
unfortunately questioning any of this is dangerous now.
I mean there isn't any social pressure to be an amputee or paralyzed
I've always suspected that therapy would make more sense for young people instead of irreversible surgeries for GD. The consequences are so large, that even if 5% of people regret it, that is a huge fail on the doctor's part. I feel like that would go against the hippocratic oath.
Do you have any web site where i can read that? I have curiosity
These people don’t need surgeons, they need psychiatrists
Why?
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@@Gretcie don't you think oit is obvious ??? such a stupid question ...
@@wile.e.coyote7666 I don't think it's obvious no.
@@Gretcie ok ok...good luck ! :D
Is there an opposite of BIID? I feel like my body is "normal" until I stand up and start to walk around. Then I remember I have cerebral palsy and can't move the way my mind tells me I can. By the way, love to all the orthopedic surgeons, without whom I wouldn't be walking at all. Docs told my mom I'd never ambulate on my own. Thanks to my O.S., I am independent. ❤️
I do know about GD but now and days that is thought as something EVERYONE should try to have ....... -_-
That could be internalized ableism.
@@kayr4632 I don't know all the details about ableism but mocking people in wheel chairs i can understand why its insulting.
That's a very interesting question! I don't have any kind of answer for you, but do thank you for sharing your point of view.
I would suspect that it's reasonably normal? Like an amputee with phantom pain or feeling. Or a simpler way to see it would be age. I often feel like there no way I'm 37, I still feel (or my brain feels) like I'm in my 20s. Til I try to do something (usually dumb) and my body remind me I'm definitely Not 20 anymore lol. It's like a bit of a brain vs body disconnect. Though I kinda wish it was reversed, my brain would feel wiser and my body looked and behaved like it was still 20 haha.
I don't think the problem is finding doctors who will do the requested surgeries, I think the problem is that there _are_ surgeon's who will do these surgeries....and medical associations that won't punish those egomaniacs with the stripping of their licenses and pushing prison terms.
I know for the Black Alien, his tongue splitting, eyeball tattoos, and finger amputations were done by his good friend Gato Moreno, who is briefly shown in this video. Mr. Moreno is not a surgeon, he travels doing extreme body mods.
BIID is severely lacking in research, but it is proven to be an actual disorder, hypothesized to be in the part of the brain responsible for proprioception and body mapping. Most BIID sufferers develop symptoms between the ages of 4-6 and it causes immense suffering. In most cases therapy and psychiatric medications don’t help to relieve the dysphoria, but can help with the depression that comes with it.
It isn’t an aesthetic thing, it isn’t because they think disability is cool, it isn’t because they want to have a disability to be treated differently or get benefits. They hide their feelings and suffering from everyone around because they know that wanting to be disabled isn’t normal and most often they feel very upset that they have this condition because they don’t want to harm the disability community. BIID can also form after injury or come with CRPS, where amputation seems like the only treatment that could give any quality of life back.
Something else that’s very interesting is that a study was done showing that people with amputation focused BIID could repeatedly pinpoint their desired level of amputation with 1mm accuracy, while their eyes are covered. The study also found that the skin was slightly thicker and had less sensation below the desired level of amputation, when compared to the skin directly above that level.
I’m disabled, I’m a wheelchair user due to a genetic disorder. I understand the frustration around BIID, I used to feel the same. But I decided to actually understand why this happens, and now I truly believe that they are suffering immensely and they deserve care the same as anyone else. More research needs to be done so that BIID sufferers don’t have to go to such extreme lengths of self mutilation to get relief from the condition.
Yes, amputation/paralysis/any other thing to help them should be a last resort. They all come with huge risks and side effects, but honestly if all other treatment fails, they’re probably gonna attempt it on their own, so why not have it as a last resort treatment so it can be done in a safe environment?
Why punishing them? for their appearance? I saw real uglyness in "beauty" People. The first impression is not something people should rely on.
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624 No, reread the comment....punishing the _surgeons_
@@bobbygoestoabyss6624 you're not paying attention
I appreciate your attempt to remain as neutral and objective on this subject as possible, especially given how controversial these and similar modifications can be in this day and age. I think you did a commendable job at remaining objective.
“This day and age”. Cause it was accepted more in the past lmao?
@@oppaloopa3698 quite the opposite.
I think the point is nowadays people expect you to support their choices wholeheartedly regardless how ridiculous you may think they are. In the past it might be way more acceptable to bully somebody out of doing something out of the norm.
@@chilibeer3912 well, bullying someone for acting like an idiot is certainly much healthier for the society than silently tolerating or loudly accepting them.
@@oppaloopa3698yup
I'm sorry, I need to put this in the comments for anyone who might be reading but when that documentary showed the woman with BIID walking and said 'she is actually able to walk perfectly' while I understand that in her context I worry that some might interpret a wheelchair user being able to walk as evidence they actually don't need a wheelchair at all. Something like 80% of all wheelchair users are ambulatory (can walk) and the widespread notion that if someone gets up from a wheelchair and walks a little then they must not need a wheelchair and actually be a faker is EXTREMELY harmful for us :/ I know that's not at all what was going on in the documentary but I really want people to know this.
Thanks for the clarification. That was not the intent of my message, but I am glad that you commented so that the distinction is clear. 🙌🏿🙏🏿
My mom recently experienced this after getting a rod inserted into her leg. She felt guilty about using a wheelchair because she "got on perfectly fine" with just the walker. She did not get on perfectly fine. She's getting better, not 100% back up to snuff yet but not using the walker as much as she used to.
The "woman" on the video was a woman only on "her" head also. That person has a LOT of problems going on on his head, the "desire to be seen as disabled" is just another facet of his psychiatric problems.
What percentage of that 80% are just lazy?
@@chadnuts I don't think using a wheelchair is actually less physically intensive than walking. Powered wheelchairs or other mobility aids, sure, but they are also crazy expensive and usually only covered by healthcare or insurance if the need is actually there.
I appreciate the precise and respectful way you address the issue of extreme body modifications! Taking into account mental factors as well. A well done video!
I've been a natural bodybuilder since I was 16; I grew up on comic books instead of TV, so I always wanted that superhero body. But I wanted the strength and stamina that comes from putting the work in.
So a hugely shocking body modification to me were 'bodybuilders' getting implants to look like they have bigger, disproportionate muscles. I mean, like actual molded plastic implanted under the skin for the illusion of great muscles. The amount of infections that come from these body mods is staggering to me. Many end up causing more damage due to infection, whereby the implant AND natural muscle supporting them have to be removed due to infection or disease. 😱
Thank you for accidentally answering a question I was wondering about. A few years ago I had a heart attack which required triple bypass surgery, and the operation required the surgeon to cut through my entire sternum.
I have made a full recovery, but ever since my op I've had this weird thing whereby I get a sound and sensation like cracking my knuckles but from the top of my rib cage. This happens sometimes when I twist my shoulders relative to the rest of my body, and it never happened before the operation. I now know that the sound is coming from the joint at the top of my rib cage. I didn't even know that was a joint there!
Interesting! i have that too, but never had any surgery in that area of my body. (when i pull both my shoulders back after sitting in bad posture for a longer time i get that noise and sensation)
@@nirfz hey same here and not from surgery either. I have hypermobility so my joints do wonky stuff all day.
@@4thfrom7 for like 3 years i've been terrified of why my chest cracks, pops and bends. never considered it's the same hypermobility that buggers my ankles and wrists!
I crack mine purposely by pressing my fingers below it. I have pain there.
I'm here just drooling over the fantasy of my bones being able to do that to get some relief, I'd be a different person if I could do that.
I'm convinced that the vast majority of body modders have deep-seated mental issues that trigger, or drive, their modification behaviour. Whether or not that's something they should be treated for, or if their modifications should be supported, is the discussion worth having. Just because someone has a mental issue that causes certain behaviours is not enough to label them "crazy" or "insane". Heck, I'm autistic myself. A lot of my behaviours look weird and self-harming from the outside. My reluctance to have friends or engage in social situations for instance. I get called a "shut in" and people believe that I feel lonely while I'm perfectly happy on my own.
don't compare a perfectly normal neurotype to this insanity. I'm Autistic too. this, on the other hand, is mental illness. regards. ps. solitude is Heaven.
I've noticed an explosion of autism or social awkwardness being lumped in as a form of autism. I think most on line autistic(s) are much like this woman who wants to be a paraplegic and their mental illness is searching for a disability. As some one who has spent a lot of time time working with both high functioning and low functioning autistic people and having a sister who has high functioning autism. The only ones I have ever met that are even semi able to hold an intelligible conversation are in on line comment sections when they are telling you they have autism.... I mean. I asked my sister what is a " Normal neurotype" autism. She doesn't even fully understand what autism means let alone neuro divergences. because she barely understands that she is autistic.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 "Neurotypical" person here: sorry, from my perspective some autistic behavior is a significant deviation from what I call normal (i.e. "average", "typical") behavior. But then again - normal is boring and our differences make us better as a society.
Please don't judge body modders too harshly - as the doctor said: medical scientists are not yet entirely sure whether this is neurological, psychological and/or at the extreme edge of healthy behavior or maybe a different combination in every case. So we don't know whether it is a real problem yet. Until we know for sure what the reason is we have no right to label it an "illness".
By the way: this label of "shut in" is something that some very extroverted people use on anyone who is introverted - it is a lack of imagination and empathy on their part (ironic, I know). I like solitude as well - it helps me concentrate and work. For me it is just easier to smile and convince people I'm fine when I'm clearly angry they disturbed my concentration.
Well it did make sense the dude that thinks he's a chick also wants to hack his limbs
I have bipolar and add. I sing and make weird sounds all the time and when I get attacked on u tube I write a book in a response defending myself.
As someone with a spinal cord injury, I seriously doubt these people would like to go the rest of their lives with nerve pain 24/7. Numbness is one thing, but feeling like you have a permanent sunburn is absolutely draining.
He must get so tired of people referring to him as "bruh" and not "doctor" people should address him by the title he's earned and pay him the respect he deserves as a person that has accomplished tremendous academic and professional achievements.
Hear hear
I call him by his name, i think thats respectful. Unless he demands me go by his title :S.
No one has to call you anything, regardless of what you think you've "achieved". That's known as ego, that you'd be so pissed, because someone doesn't respect you by calling you a certain word or label.
Well, you taught me one today, Doc, a new word: Sterno-clavicular joint. It also, has finally resolved a mild anxiety I'd had for about twenty years... One morning, I woke on my left side, and, as I sat up, could feel a kind of 'tension' across my upper-left chest and shoulder. I rolled and then extended my shoulders backward, almost the kind of motion as in X-Men 3, when Angel's wings extend and then settle. As I did this, there was a popping sensation and sound from my collarbone area, which I was momentarily alarmed by, but also immediately felt the tension release, a bit like cracking my knuckles. Since then, when I sleep on that side, I will often experience the same thing, and know that all I need do is 'roll my shoulders'/'flex my wings', and it will pop and release...
But now, thanks to yourself, I know that there actually *is* a joint there, and it *is* simply the joint cracking, as I can do with my knuckles, wrists, neck, lumbar, and occasionally the right ankle which I fractured skate-boarding while about 9-10 years old (all these joint manipulations are done slowly and gently, unlike those Y-Strap neck-crackers 🥴🥴🥴🥴) So it's nice to know that it literally is a true joint shifting, and not anything more sinister 👍👍👍👍
Lol I had come across a video that explained the pains and pressure I will get in my chest or heart every so often that won't go away until I suffer through a deep breath and hold it for a few seconds and then breath out. I always thought I was having a mild heart attack or something being my age or weight, diet or lifestyle, but what I found out is that it is a nerve that gets pinched once in a while in my chest cavity that has to become unpinched to go away. Thank goodness... I thought I was dying!
I’m not sure if this is true for all paraplegics, but I learned from a paraplegic TH-camr, that she had to digitally stimulate her sphincter to go number 2. It is beyond my comprehension why anyone with BIID would still want to become paralyzed voluntarily if going to the bathroom would involve that!
I am a paraplegic and yes, this is true and it’s sucks!!!
It must be a challenge for staff assisting someone with personal tasks like this if that person has deliberately chosen this.
If a person has an accident or disease that necessitates it, then I'm sure staff are more than willing to carry out procedures like that, but if a normally-abled person decides to opt out of the ability to urinate or defecate unassisted, it's almost ad though they are abusing staff
@@dshe8637 I don't agree with this view. The staff are being paid to do a job, which is to provide medically necessary care/therapy for patients regardless of why they were admitted to the medical facility. It is not abuse for someone to do a job they are being paid to do for patients who have been admitted to a medical facility. Maybe it feels challenging if you think that person deserves to be left at home to die from the consequences of their injuries, but I don't think too many medical professions would think that way.
@@lightningbug3189 Nursing staff are humans and being asked to do these tasks because of someone's choice or fetish is actually abusive.
@@dshe8637 Fetish, I can see. Choice I can't. Drunk drivers also made a choice which was likely to result in injury. Treating them is not abuse.
Very well informed Doctor you are. Certainly learned a few things about the body functions. Nicely put together video
Thank you for sharing this, Doctor. I had no idea people go out of their way to look deformed. I had a dangerous job, suffered 15 broken bones and around 1000 stitches, and I have to deal with that every day and it’s not easy. Nerve damage is unbearable, I don’t understand why would anyone want to feel that pain.
This was NOT the content I expected based on your body modification question in the community section 😳 ELECTIVE AMPUTATION?!? GROWING BODY PARTS?!? This is next level. I appreciate the mental health aspect and the research on BFU; it brought all of this together very well. I'm so shocked, and I learned something new....thank you??? Lol.
They can do what they want but I also have the right to think they look positively ridiculous. I will not be compelled to think that extreme body mods are normal.
This was a great video, keep up the good work.
And, yes, I would stare at them. Of corse! If they don't want anyone to look at tem, don't go out,!
@@dustyrose7650Staring is rude. Doesn't matter who you're looking at.
Seeing as these stories include people who desire to unique or have a mental condition, I don't think the idea is for this to become normal.
I really enjoyed this video; thank you for the in-depth discussion and sharing it.
Thanks for the video -- it was really interested and you explained everything so clearly!
I've been fascinated with body modification ever since I got my first piercing at 16. I wouldn't characterise anything I have as particularly extreme, and generally go for things that most people aren't going to see. For example, my most extreme piercing I have is a 4g stretched septum. I always have jewellery in, but usually have it inverted, so unless you staring directly up my nose, you'd never know. I was never into the 'transhumanist' side of things. I thought it was cool, but it never spoke to me. One of the most heavily modified people in the world, she goes by 'Dragonlady', started modifying her body after she suffered absolutely horrific, brutal, abuse and torture at the hands of others, and her goal is to become the furthest thing away from them, human, as she possibly can. But if you listen to any interviews with her, she is still incredibly kind, caring and wonderful. After experiencing some similar instances, no where near the level that she had to endure, I can now say that I absolutely understand where she's coming from.
Still disgusting.
@@kekibannmi6054 🤣
I became interested after my 1st pierce also;interested in hardly hanging a ring in my 🦻lobe & not having scarological, amputations,
branding, implants, tattooing or further piercings.Let them do wtfe it is they wish,
but it will never be normalized to me.
Highlight honourable characteristics in someone only to claim them for yourself.
Seems legit!
Sounds like the lady was in dire need of therapy, not modification.
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Part of what caught my attention on this video was your profession. Because I have rheumatoid arthritis (among a few other diseases), I know that certain orthopedic surgeries are in my future. I adore my orthopedic doctor since he has helped me so very much with treatment/surgery to deal with my carpal tunnel syndrome. And 20-some-odd years ago, my Husbeast had ACL repair done. We're very grateful for talents of surgeons such as yourself, and seeing your take on some extreme body mods has been great!
This was much more educational than I assumed it'd be. So interesting...
It's frankly a crime that this gentleman has only 365k subscribers
Thank you for your kind words.
Thanks for the reminder, I just subscribed.
Definitely the content I subscribed for. Thank you for consistently providing my autistic brain food for my special interests!
You very much sound like my wife, who does exactly the same thing!
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Lovin The Inserts
Especially The Kidda Crying
When Asked " How U Gonna Steal From A Small Lady !? "
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This was really interesting, especially the debate about autonomy, thanks for an informative watch!
I can't resist medical videos on such weird topics, you got my subscription, even if just a dentist I'm still fascinated by this.
My late partner disowned his left arm after having strokes. When it knocked something over he'd deny he'd done it, and he didn't recognise the arm as being part of his body.
I found this video helped me understand the differences of some of the reasons and not understand. I really enjoyed this video.
Glad there are surgeons to help people out there, i couldn't handle a job like that !
Thank you for being so thoughtful doc! Another great video!
I love body mods I have ober 20 pirecings and 15 tattoos.
But even I would never cut of limbs.
I watched a TH-cam video were a lady tattooed her eyes and is now blind.
I'd never do anything that would cause damage
Same
You are a wonderful narrator! Easy to understand, factual, informative and non judgemental. .l have pierced ears and a couple of small tattoos..! I find the people in your video very extreme in their body modifications, but each to their own.. they have their reasons and all seem like really nice people..hope they are happy with their choices.
Body Integrity Identity Disorder is the reason i cut my hand off in a bandsaw, never regretted it and it in fact made me into a better person
I had no idea the collapsed collar bone creates the image of a tall neck. Fascinating!
I hit the subscribe button 😊
I learned something too! I thought they had a stretched neck.
Who remembers the woman on dr phil who blinded herself, because she "felt like she was supposed to be blind"? That was crazy, go search for it if you haven't seen it. It's very possible she wasn't just trying to be unique but she actually had an illness of some kind
I think this was very interesting. I’ve seen a few people who have done some things I wouldn’t even think of but it’s interesting to hear what might be the motivation.
I have no tats or mods. I feel person should have the right to do with their body as they please, within reason. What's reasonable is where it gets messy. Thanks for a sympathetic and informative take on these mods.
What is "within reason"?
I think only medically necessary operations should be allowed.
Y'all, I'm messed up thinking this... But would a sex change be a body mod?
@@Messenger4now There´s no such thing as "sex change", people can only change their appearance! Functionally they can NOT change!
So you're willing to support a volunteer paraplegic?
@@kenneth9874 I do not think someone's body mods should be a driver of their eligibility for social support. Separate issues. Nor is paraplegia a guarantee of poverty. I know one fella with a single leg who's income I would gladly trade for, he's a driven smart fella. I cannot say that of everyone I know who has two legs.
He is so legitimately intelligent and well read. I thoroughly enjoy his vids.
Ortho docs saved my right knee, as a soldier, with an ACL replacement. Saved my right bicep as a drummer many years later. Angels work Dr. Chris.
your the man, funny, important, most of all objective and inspiring for the young eyes watching.
I met a pharmacy technician the other day who had several facial piercings. The one that stood out to me the most was a double nostril piercing (one piercing in each nostril, high up), with a chain over the bridge of her nose linking the two piercings. I remarked upon it because I'd never seen chain piercings in that way before, and I thought it looked a lot safer and far less scary (in terms of risk of injury) than the ear-to-nostril or ear-to-lip chain piercings I've seen in the past.
If you're open to suggestions of things to review, I'd be interested in seeing you review mountaineering injuries, both fatal and non-fatal. My understanding is that pulmonary illnesses due to lack of oxygen, or exposure to the elements, are the most common causes of death on the highest of mountains, though those are survivable if the team is able to react speedily enough to get the climber back down the mountain. But I'd still be interested in hearing the perspective of an orthopedic surgeon when it comes to high-altitude mountaineering injuries and accidents.
As always, love the objectivity you try to display in your videos. I dont have any "extreme" mods but I have some piercings that turn heads and plan on splitting my tongue but not much beyond that. Maybe scleral tattoo down the line depending on some factors. I don't really do it for uniqueness in relation to others per say, but I've just always liked customization for my sake. But I also dont get surprised or offended when I get looks or comments. I knew the social and job "risks" going into it and I'm lucky to work where I dont have to worry. People naturally react to something that's different so I dont blame them.
Just arrived at your channel. Very insightful video, I very much like the way you narrate.
Nice video, to say I am gobsmacked would be an understatement! Each to their own!
Awesome video! I'm used to "An expert reacts to something" being just "Looks like they did this or that, it's good/bad, I would/wouldn't do that". I didn't expext this video being so well researched and informative!!!
Also nice ho hear this sensitive topic discussed without judgement.
Cool, thanks!
u might like Legal Eagle "Lawyer reacts" and does movies and shows (alongside real world events)
I'm just sitting here like O.o I got in an accident at school where my leg I got crushed by a forklift to get an amputated blow my knee and my thigh bone is broken. I already have a prosthetic but I can't use it until my knee I don't even know I got stub I don't like calling it that it feels so weird but until that's healed I can't put the sleeve on for the prosthetic and I can't use the prosthetic until the bone in my thigh is healed I'm not supposed to be doing much I sometimes get hungry and make my way to the fridge and then get yelled at by my parents. I don't recommend getting amputated because it's hard to move around 😂 so the moral of my story is don't do it unless you medically have to.
Hope your recovery is going well COdy. Sorry to hear about your accident. Give your stump time to heal so that you can have a healthy stump for your prosthetic.
@@ChrisRaynorMD I will. 🥺 But the food, lol.
I love your lack of judgement and scientific analyses. It is 3am and this video has made my day! No disrespect to those that have possible mental disorders....however, there is some cynicism from myself about this entire issue. Self image...hm. Wow! What a topic! Many thanks Dr Raynor! U rock.
What an interesting topic. I’m an orthopaedic challenge. I’ve had both hips replaced (hereditary) both knees replaced (accidents) right shoulder replaced (rotator cuff torn too many times) and left shoulder surgically repaired, torn rotator cuff tear 3 times. I can’t understand why someone would go through surgery to change their body. To each their own I guess. I worry every time I have surgery. Will lose an arm, a leg, my life?
I thank you for this topic. It was so interesting and informative. I’m subscribing to your channel.
I'm in my 20s and have had major surgery on both my femurs. Wheelchair bound for months, months of physio. Anyone who chooses this needs professional help.
My mother had a stroke this Jan 4th. She went to a specialty hospital for surgery to stop the bleed and they found an aneurism, then caused another bleed. She spent three months in rehab wishing to die because a robot had taken over her left leg and an orphan girl named Judy was using her left hand. These imaginings continued until she fell and broke her wrist, thinking she was able to walk and hold onto things while she, the girl and the alien ran her body as a collective. After two months in rehab she came home seemingly well but still weak on her left side. We thought she was mentally better until she asked me when her doctors appointment to remove the wires from her leg was scheduled. I have given up trying to get her to do "mirroring" with her hand and leg. She acts like that side of her body doesn't exist anymore.
The brain issues between her strokes/aneurism/brain surgery had stalled and she continues to decline.
Thats terrible. Im sorry both you and her have to go through such a grueling experience. My family and I went through similar this past month with my grandmother. I hope you guys can find peace in this situation.
you're such a reasonable doctor! I love your vídeos!
I was always taught that the women with the brass rings had to wear for protection from tiger attacks. The example being, if they were at the river doing laundry or collecting water they would be extremely vulnerable to they've attacked by predators. Henceforth they wore the ring around their necks to protect their throats.
6:37 this is absolute a legitimate question and NOT intended to spark controversy. I fully support anyone to do whatever they want with their body.... that being said. If removing perfectly healthy limbs and other body parts is considered unethical by medical standards, how does gender reassignment work? Would that not fall under the same category? Removing perfectly functioning body parts because the person feels like it doesn't fit their body?
See,I feel the same way. I feel like amputation to cure BIID should be as accepted as transgender surgeries. But like trans surgeries, one should go through extensive therapy, consult multiple specialists and be ABSOLUTELY SURE before the operation is even considered.
Sincerely, a trans man with BIID. :)
Transgender people have been around for thousands of years, across various cultures. The ability to (semi) safely alter the body through surgery is new, but the underlying psychology is not.
The funny thing is, you're already unique, no one has existed like you before or after, similarities yes but not the same...
But why settle for being just as unique as everyone else. Why not push the limits? Why not go beyond?
@@tjenadonn6158 Because no one likes a try hard, the most unique individuals don't have a tattoo let alone a stupid self-inflicted facial deformative, Leonardo Da Vinci didn't need to cut his nose off to be unique...
@@fcukgogle9213 exactly. the true uniqueness is that which is visible through the Mind, not through the physical senses. regards.
@@tjenadonn6158 because human is not smarter than Mother Nature. if something is there, it's there for a reason. otherwise why don't they just remove their liver, kidneys, maybe heart, eye[?].. wouldn't that be "unique pushed past the limits"? well, some do want to remove their limb. "good", huh? -ah, yah, sorry I forgot that that's a medically recognised mental disorder. regards.
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To look like that no thanks ...
Not to metioned all the pain , and complications that can happened . No way ... people with ilnesses and disease , paralegics desire to be normal . Why do this just for fame ? Attention ? Tick tock videos , not worth it . Plus in the end like the alien said he dont like his body but its too late to go back .
My father had spinal muscular atrophy. He could not move his legs for decades but could feel them. They would not take the feeling away we need that for our protection so we know when we are hurt. You do not want to lose any mobility it sucks! He was bed ridden the last 2 years of his life. I was his caregiver and I pray I never have to see anyone suffer like he did again.
0:23 I had a acl replacement surgery, and I can tell you, you are right but I have a small scar on the top of my knee, as that was supposed to be my new replacement. The surgery took 2 hours, was a success and well it was painful, but I'm now a year in and I'm able to play sports now just need doctor approval, my left knee kinda hurts when I stretch too much since in unable to feel that muscle again, but it's fine I have a knee brace and feels better on.
Love from Chicago! Great video, thanks...
I'm an artist who has spent a lot of time on the weirder parts of the toobs, and in my experience, the extreme body mod people do not have good outcomes. I'm sure some well-known ones may, I'm talking about relatively unknown people from forums, groups, chats, blogs, festivals, galleries, concerts, etc over almost 30 years
Several amuptating BIID people in these places ended themselves, especially if what what wrong cleared. Some were doing drugs and had such severe regret upon sobering up, they did too.
I've had in-depth conversations with a handful (the old Internet was an interesting basis for studying psychology..) of the extremes OL and more moderate body modifiers IRL and the extreme community was a different animal.
I think people with BIID need therapy, much like those seeking ridiculous/repetitive plastic surgery procedures. The last thing you wanna do is make a sick person sicker, right?
I wish the extreme artists the best, I understand the need to be creatively unique, but oh my god, I have seen some things. Be creative but try to love yourself, you don't want a colostomy bag or a jaw replacement before 25 for a "vibe"
The only body mods I'd get would be a tatoo of an important event / family, or to have my eyes repaired so i wouldnt be legally blind.
Living in the USA while not being able to drive is a nightmare because i have to rely on others to go anywhere further than my bycicle can get me (20 miles).
I was born 3 months premature, and had several laser surgeries when i was born to not be completely blind (along with living on a respirator for the first couple months of my life cause my lungs also werent fully formed) and the last time i did research into fixing the scar tissue, it was at the lab rat phase of testing.
I know this is probably too personal but.... I'm nosey. Are your eye issues from being premature or were you exposed to high levels of oxygen that damaged your eyes? I've heard of the second instance happening often but typically with older people. I didn't know if they did that anymore.
@@DarlingDaintyfoot i dont remember
@@Gespenter lol That's funny. I like that.
@@DarlingDaintyfoot its been 6 or 7 years
@@Gespenter Oh! Sorry! I thought you meant you didn't remember being a newborn... Ha ha ha ha ha
I think the alien and devil guys actually look pretty cool! Very unique. Not something I’d want for myself, but if they like it and it isn’t hurting anyone, who cares what they do to their own bodies?!
Heck yeah!! That’s what I wish more people understood.
Yeah, I'm happy that they're happy with themselves
Great video, I enjoyed it very much. I have four tatts, a pierced nose, and double-pierced ears. I don't think I will do any more than that.
I saw the neck brace women in a guiness book. It was said that without the braces the neck would break. It makes it worse.
I had an elected below knee amputation because of a mis-handled degloving from a 97kg window falling on my lower leg and developing gangrene followed by CRPS after reconstruction, best thing that could’ve happened as it gave me my life back, but it’s not easy being an amputee and cannot understand someone doing it on purpose for cosmetics and to a healthy limb!
*elective 😉👍🏻
My daughter has CRPS. Thankfully her pain is managed pretty well now (10 years now.) she’s a 911 operator and living on her own now.
I was always worried the CRPS would still be there.
Fascinating. Thank you!
My husband lost his left index finger in an industrial accident. Every day he wishes he had it back. He drops things constantly, and doesn't have the grip strength any more. I, on the other hand have had 2 amputation surgeries, by my own request. Both were breast reductions. I'm quite happy with my procedures, he obviously, doesn't. There are good and bad/unwarranted reasons for body modification.
Well, I didn’t want to sleep tonight anyway.
I am astonished that there are medical professionals that would consent to performing these modifications on healthy human beings.
augusto Yes, the people having it done need help while the rogues performing the procedures need jail time.
Dude can explain all this with no judgment.
I need another hip replacement so I will be seeing a doctor like you. I have an antibiotic spacer in my hip ATM. It's been rough
Now I got a question about the elective amputation procedure. I have an l2 l3 incomplete spinal cord injury which makes my legs partway below the knee paralyzed and unable to walk. Now, if I were to get a bilateral (TKA), through the knee amputation, that would allow me to utilize prosthetics so that I could be able to walk again. Would that be ethical for a surgeon to follow up on? Or would I just be deemed as crazy because I wanted to walk again and willing to go through any means necessary to make that happen.
Your concern is reasonable. This is people causing themselves problems on purpose.
Consiering this would be done to possibly improve your life. I would say it would be ethical for a surgeon to follow up on it.
Originally, I thought body mods were something completely crazy and that I would never do them… but then I realized I had braces. 😂
Braces can be removed after so tecnickly ITS temporary body modification .but if ITS affect the teeth structure ITS body enhanctment
It's a corrective modification
That's like saying a cast is a body modification
@@aniquinstark4347 I would disagree, because a cast is putting your body back to the way it was meant to be, how it was before the accident, braces are adjusting your bite to be less efficient, but nicer to look at.
Braces don't give you a better bite for eating, what you are born with is typically better, in my experience braces actually made it much harder for me to eat most foods because I bite does not work at eating as well.
It's also not even corrective, because what's to say aligned teeth are better?
@@Bogo0112 I got braces cause my teeth where rubbing against each other ( I had an overbite) and eventually they would have become really sensitive so teeth alling ment isn't needed but it will help your teeth last for longer (in my case) and also I find it a little easier to eat now that all my teeth are aligned (maybe I just had really badly aligned teeth though) so I guess aligned teeth are better and arguably healthier in my opinion
Very insightful, thanks.
Every day I learn something new thanks
dude really said "make me look like a horror movie + villian"
Eh, if you got an aesthetic, rock it. No less an authority than Anton Szandor LaVey listed Lack of Aesthetics among the Nine Satanic Sins, and while I'm not a LaVeyan or a Satanist of any stripe (too Abrahamic for my tastes) I still think it's better to stand out. History is made by the freaks, not by the forgettable.
Ethically how do the extreme surgery's (ear removal etc) sit with you as a surgeon?
when you cover yourself in tattoos, does that amount of ink going into your skin cause other internal problems ? does the ink end up in your liver or somewhere else ?
From the research I've done no. As long as it's placed at the right depth and is the right ink it should pretty much stay where it's put.
Fascinating. And explains a very sensitive area.
I enjoyed watching this, not for the body modifications but the anatomy and physiology of it. I do not have any modifications and will never have any. Not even pierced ears and the reason for that is because I did everything that I was told and still the holes healed themselves. I was also in a car accident and, although I have scars, I healed very quickly. I think the people in this video have issues, especially when you want to be in a wheelchair, that to me is the most horrific. I know people want to express themselves, but I think it has all gone too far.
Now this is interesting!
Man, dude in the thumbnail. Imagine seeing him in a dark alley emptying the trash lol
OMG, Shocking! I've never seen anything like it and can't imagine why????
I'm curious how you would treat BIID if it's directly related to a part of the brain. Would that include brain surgery?
therapy perhaps
When your body goal is to not look human and then people stare and judge you when you're in public 😲
Oh man I'm so glad I wasn't eating me dinner when I saw this video. Thanks for posting just the same.
Fascinating! Thanks! how does it differ from body dysmorphia? The art ear thing is pretty cool to be honest. What a neat idea. Livestreaming from a prosthesis. :) how very artsy :) I have never done body mod except typical ear rings, and always wondered what draw people to these mods. It is interesting and you really were compassionate and kind, and still informed people about the practice. You are cool as heck! All i want to know is how to get rid of keloids 5 years post ORIF on my forearm and why I still have nerve damage and vikings to my ring finger, and do I have to keep pins and plate sin there forever? basic stuff lol
:)
So glad that you can talk about these people without condemning or judging them beyond reasons for their health. Very professional and respectful. Everyone expresses themselves in different ways. You do you.
Some more words about BIID, that will maybd help people understand this diaorder a little bit further: affected people describe it as a feeling like that limb doesn't belong to them. It feels more like a strangers limb attached to your body. And to a certain degree, they don't feel like they're the one controlling that body part.
So just imagine being touched by a strangers hand while showering, whenever you open your eyes at night the hand laying next to your face isn't yours, and that strange hand is fixed to your body.
To me, that thought helped to at least kind of relate to the disturbed way these individuals feel about those limbs and why they wish to amputate them.
As someone with BIID, I fully agree. Thank you for being one of the few kind, open-minded people. :)
God bless you, Dr. Raynor
Actual references cited! Awesome!