From FAT To FIT AF In Only 8 Weeks? | The Dangers Of Extreme Weight Cutting!!
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- In this explainer video, orthopedic surgeon Dr. Chris Raynor looks at the dangers of extreme weight cutting for combat sports and discusses how weight cutting is performed, why it is so dangerous, and the unfortunate athletes who have died using this technique.
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weight cutting is dangerous if not done correctly like losing too much weight too fast or overtraining.
No doubt the AI would ban it for too much uncovered flesh as well. I see nothing wrong with this video.
TH-cam is on a woke tidal wave. Ya can't swear or throw insults either.. 🙈🙉🙊 New Rules eh !
This has been an ongoing problem in combat sports. They need to do same day weigh-ins with mandatory hydration testing. It goes against the spirit of weight classes when you have people cutting like this. It shortens their career and increases the likely hood of brain injury.
Back when I competed in amateur kickboxing, we did same-day weigh-ins. 6-7am on the scale, event starts in the afternoon. No one complained and most just showed up lean but near the target weight, which most probably did not exceed by much or anything come fight time. I know the stakes are much lower in amateur fights, but it goes to show how much of a difference it makes. When there's less than 8 hours between scale and fight, no one will bother with dangerous dehydration practices.
I was about to say the same thing. Same-day weigh-ins, and smaller scale on the weight classes, and like you said the hydration test.
You can get around hydration testing . They already do it in one championship
Cheating hydration tests is a cake walk....
Hydration tests are actually surprisingly easy to beat
As a combat sports fan of almost 3 decades, I absolutely agree. Weight cutting is ridiculous. It's the exact opposite of what weight classes are designed for, and that's to keep people roughly the same size to equalize the match. With weight cutting, much heavier fighters are able to overpower smaller fighters as long as they can cut down to a certain weight for an hour or so the day before a fight. Fights should be contested at natural, optimal body size
Surely it weakens the person before the fight if there is not enough time to recover. The closer the weigh in the worse it gets.
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yea, they should just do the weight in unannounced and several times at unpredictable intervals before a fight. That way you get a better picture of what weight class a fighter belongs to.
I feel like a lot of the issues with weight cuts would be solved if they measured the weight when they entered the ring instead of the day before, that way the fighters are unable to rely on dehydration for weight cutting, as it hinders their performance to such an incredible degree and would make them lose the match.
The very fact that there is a time window to recover between the weigh in and the fight means that it is more or less encouraged to rely on dehydration to make the weight.
And they don't have to do only one weigh-in, if they are afraid of bs like "the fighter doesn't make the weight", they can do prelimenary weigh-ins the days before and make a rule that their weight can't be more than some percentage different, 5/10%
They won't do that because if the fighter don't make the wheigth cut the fight is canceled and they have to give back the money of tickets and bets. Money rules in this matter
@@fractalicflow They already radically change their weight 12 hours before the fight, how hard would it be to carefully monitor their weight a week before the fight and make sure they weigh enough?
Make them weigh in for 4 weeks before a fight, daily, with networked scale and a video recording of each weigh in.
@@fractalicflow it can be worked around with hydration testing. Fighters will continue to cut weight but no longer in extremes.
@@andersonandrighi4539 It's just the extremes that need to be addressed. A 15 pound weight cut is not a 45 pound weight cut.
Wrestlers do this too. This frustrated me so much when I watched my classmates do this. If everyone is "cutting weight" to be "stronger" in a lower weight class, then wouldn't it make sense to just maintain a good weight without stressing the body through dehydration? I understand weight classes... but this is a huge issue.
The editing in these videos is sooooo well done. It's entertaining and informative at the same time. Combine that with Dr. Raynor's writing and presentation *chefs kiss*
Wow, thanks!
My mom's cousin died from drinking too much liquid. If i remember the report from the autopsy correctly, he drank so much liquid that he had flushed out most of the sodium in his system, causing his brain to swell up inside his skull. Apparently he had a condition where no matter how much he drank he was always thirsty.
He had a lot of mental health issues due to severe substance abuse followed by quitting every thing at once.
1990 I had a trainer that convinced me to go from 225 down to 178 to box.
He thought it would make me stronger than everyone else but I was weak.
I am 6 foot 1.
He was saying i was lazy because everyday i showed up in the gym weighing 186 and left weighing 178 .
Every night I was jogging in place in front of the oven with a heating pipe behind wearing a jogging suit and plastic bags.
After the trainer dropped me, my new trainer said it was ok to drink water and eat twice a day.
I easily went up to 208 and made it to the finals of the next open class tournament.
That sounds dangerous! Happy you found a good trainer and congratulation for the finals!
Good trainers would never shame you.
Super happy to hear about your new trainer.
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Personally I fight best at 62kg, though as I’m 25y, I might gain some weight.
Currently down 11% bf and I have more stamina, not strength.
I'm an inch shorter but same weight I would've thought just to 205 but I do MMA not Boxing so idk if it would be the same, but yeah I dropped down from 232 to 222 and I felt miserable and my legs were wobbly from the fasting.
That trainer sounds foolish. You were better off without them. Could have done huge damage if you stayed with him.
Dk metcalf would destroy you
There's an easy solution to this. Do the weigh in immediately before the fight. They have to fight immediately after the weigh in. There is no way any fighter is going to perform well after a massive weight cut so everyone who tries it will lose. They will stop doing it. Problem solved. People will be fighting in their real weight class instead of cutting down to a weight they can't or won't maintain and then gaining 20, 30, 50 pounds back before their actual fight.
Feels like a lot of fight cancellations then. Maybe two weigh ins, one a day before the fight with hydration testing (which can be cheated a bit), one an hour before the fight.
What I find the most amazing is they do it to face an easier opponent. Ronnie Coleman sacrificed his body to be the best of the best, no compromises. But as the quote said, they’re 5th graders trying to fight 1st graders.
Well when everyone does it, the playing field mostly evens out
Not even relatively close to the same sport.
TH-cam is getting ridiculous with its demonetization. Another youtuber I watched was demonetized for language in the first ten seconds, but the first ten seconds was a silent clip with no writing....
The performance affects need to be talked about more, even in this video. I knew high school wrestlers that dehydrated themselves unnecessarily. They would have won more fights at peek for than they did trying to drop a weight class.
I would want to see more data about that too... Because on one side, someone 30 pounds heavier than me would be massive (I am no fighter, but I know plenty of people that weight +/- 30 pounds less than me and I appear massive next to them) but on the other side, not being nearly dead 36 hours before a fight would also be a tremendous adventage.
doesnt it kind of defeat the purpose of a weight class if a bunch of fighters are "cheating" their way into that weight class and come fight day are actually a fair deal heavier?
i feel like this whole thing could be stopped by just saying "we weight you again before the fight, and if your weight has changed too much your DQed" and immediatly they cant do this sort of cut and gain anymore
There is weight cutting in sports with same day weigh-ins too, wrestling comes to mind. It isn't as extreme and as unhealthy as in boxing and the UFC though, you can't first dehydrate yourself until you almost die of thirst, then regain 10%+ of your body mass and fight the same day,
I always tell people that significantly manipulating the body's natural functions is almost never good for your long term health and often dangerous in the short term. I feel like this should just be common sense.
I wrestled in HS and fought amateur and weight cutting was the worst part of both sports. Weigh-in days were some of the weakest and sickest I've ever felt. Add to that the obvious ramifications of a 14 year old cutting caloric intake to maintain a certain weight and yeah, not good.
It is one of those problems that has a simple solution. Hydration testing, weigh-ins the day before, then a weight check an hour before your bout. If you come in overweight, you don't get paid to fight, you can't increase your ranking.
Hydration tests are a joke. Sooo easy to cheat them
Honestly, just re-affirms that doing too much of one thing that involves your body, eating habits, exercise, weight loss, weight lifting, is extremely traumatic for your body to handle. It's always in moderation, things like this should be.
In general, yes. Specifically, not always. I eat almost zero carbs and I don't feel it taxes my body at all. I feel stronger and more energetic all day long.
@@andoletube I'm sure that's not what Kyle is talking about. You eat little carbs but your calorie-intake is sufficient for your body. or are You limiting it? regards and happy new year.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 I'm eating to lose weight, but I have lots of energy anyway. My body fat is supplying the energy that I don't eat. But if I have carbs in that equation, it all breaks down because carbs stimulate insulin, and insulin put the body in storage mode. That's why people can't lose weight on carb based diets. To lose weight, you must reduce carbs so that you lower insulin levels and take your body out of storage mode. Another problem with calorie restriction with carbs in your diet is that it will slow your metabolism. If you stay off carbs your metabolism won't slow down. If fact, for me, my energy is much higher even with a 1000 calorie a day deficit.
@@andoletube if You restrict calories because You want to lose weight, that's understandable, but I'm sure this is not what the Guy meant by his comment. if You deprive a regular-size body of adequate Energy-intake, sooner or later it WILL go into starvation mode and the basal metabolic rate will drop, no matter what the Person eats. this doesn't have to happen when You have sufficient energy-stores, which overweight People have, and your metabolic profile is adjusted to access those stores. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 You're transforming the conversation into something different. I was referring to the "eating habits" portion of the original comment. Most people believe that carbs are an essential part of a balanced diet - because that's what people are taught. People who do things that are different to that, like the keto diet for example, are treated as though they are extremists and doing things against established health knowledge. But it's actually this "knowledge" that has perpetrated the myth of the "essential carbs". So the thing I'm alluding to here is that the workaday expressions like in the original comment "all things in moderation", are not always true. It doesn't actually matter what his intent was - the comment itself lends itself to scrutiny because there are obvious exceptions where the traditional view of balance and moderation needs to be subverted. So if you want to debate that with me, I'm fine with that, but I'm not interested in debating the intent of the original poster .
What would be worse: to fight at one's natural weight and risk getting destroyed by an opponent Who cut weight (not only for the L in the record but the injuries that could come) ; or doing the weight cut, knowing all the health issues it can cause, to make it an "even" or "fair" fight?
Fantastic question. Not sure which is worse.
I know that @PowerfulJRE is not a fan of weight cutting. After watching this video, I hope that you are not either.
Self-sabotage for the sake of gaining an edge seems pretty universal in many fields. However, this seems like one of the few cases (that I know of!) where this practice seems acceptable.
The weight cuts they do are nothing short of insane. My parents and coaches wouldn't let me even attempt a weight cut of more than couple of pounds over a full day when I was wrestling in high school, but I have chronic hypoglycemia, so I am probably at a much higher risk of health complications if I were to try to lose 20 pounds in 12 hours like those fighters do.
Do you agree with their assessment, doc?
20 pounds? Think not only are you at risk, so are fighters that don't have your problems.
As someone who is mostly recovered from anorexia, bulimia, and orthorexia, I can’t help but draw parallels between my experiences, and weight cutting as discussed here.
I’m aware that they aren’t the same, but god, it is so glaringly obvious how disordered this can become. I know personally that I used tactics very similar to this when I would do my weekly weight checks because I wanted to know my “real weight without any extra.” I was obsessed with dehydrating myself the same way for two days before, taking 16 laxative pills the night before (yes. 16. Eating disorders don’t work logically), and even going as far and shaving everywhere besides my head and eyebrows. I passed out more times than I can count, I knew it was unhealthy but that didn’t matter at the time. Being extremely sick didn’t matter as long as the number on the scale was what I wanted.
It feels very similar, especially knowing that people continue to do this in MMA even when they know the risks to their health, and it makes them very uncomfortable and unwell. They want to see the number on the scale and it doesn’t matter what they have to risk to reach it.
This should be banned. It is sanctioned cheating and puts fighters in an extremely dangerous situation for truly no gain at all because if everyone is doing it, you’re not actually getting a foot up on the competition. It’s a completely unnecessary and dangerous practice and my heart brakes for those who have lost their lives because of it.
Can you explain what orthorexia is for uneducated people like myself? Happy for you though to have realized none of those conditions are healthy and hope you enjoy your life now
@levismith8423 orthorexia is categorised by obsession with 'healthy' foods and aversion to or fear of foods that are perceived to be unhealthy. I don't think it's an officially recognised diagnosis yet, though.
@@levismith8423 Be in mind that when we say obsession in this case, we are talking about the pathology, not the colloquial use. This obsession with food perceived as unhealthy by the person suffering that can take to extremes as not eating a fruit your friend offered you because they are not sure if there was no agrotoxic used to cultivate it.
It's also a very dangerous ED because most people will give compliments and insentivize saying "you have such a healthy diet", "I wish I was that committed", "I'm so glad for you for keeping away from junk food ", "you are looking sooo good!".
Many of the health gurus can potentialize that and some also suffer from EDs but they are in denial. EDs are very serious and affect people for their whole life.
@@twoevileyes You have such a healthy diet. I wish I was that commited.
I agree with you Dr Chris. I am a female ex-MMA fighter and I found weight cutting not only dangerous to the body, but I think it is cheating as well. Sometimes during weight cutting I would get a really bad headache. I am glad I quit the sport.
Trying to game the system by manipulating your own body into a lower weight class just doesn't seem like it's in the spirit of the sport
Dk metcalf would destroy you
I started lifting again after years of neglect and gained back muscle I'd lost and the sudden weight gain fuckin' sent my sleep apnea sky high. Which took a month+ for my body to adapt and, you know, sleep became more normal. I couldn't imagine the imbalance you'd feel from dropping 30 pounds in less then a week. Forget about getting into a fight the next day, fuck that.
I think it would be great if everyone followed One FC's example where regular weight measurements are taken during the athlete's training camp. In addition to ensuring the safety of fighters, it provides a more statistically robust picture of what the fighters actual weigh is.
I am in boxing as a trainer, always hated weight cut, its unhealthy and absolutely dangerous for a fighter, in short and long terms. So i am totally against. My 2 cents. Love how you expose the arguments doc.
Other options are the Japanese Sumo league approach in which there are no weight classes, just levels of skill and attainment.
Or the old school Irish boxing where weigh in was conducted ring side fight night just minutes before the fight.
I imagine that one thing is that would likely lead to a need for rule changes as sumo has had quite a few centuries to have rules and techniques with no weight classes
@@U1TR4F0RCE. Don’t forget Sumo isn’t the same kind of combat sport that boxing or mma is.
So to me it sounds like they should do weigh ins right before the fight, that way fighters have to make weight in a shape they can actually fight in.
Great idea.
I thought this video was very informative and made me think if my own hydration even though I'm nowhere close to being any kind of athlete. I started measuring my electrolytes intake since I'm losing weight with low-carb, no sugar which dehydrates me more than normal. I started getting daily leg cramps--couldn't even do my morning full-body stretch that I naturally do when I wake up, because stretching my legs would cause both legs to cramp. I was also fatigued, and just feeling weak all in all... So I started making my own hydrating drink to add the sodium and potassium I needed every day, plus a magnesium supplement. No leg cramps in a while now.
This was starting to be a problem in HS wrestling when I was in school & I'm guessing it's only gotten worse the last 25 years.
For these professional fights, what about having the fighters weigh in for 7 days (once a day) before a fight & maybe give them a day or 2 after last weigh in before the fight. They would have to work out a way to officiate the weigh in's unless they make it a rule that fighters are "on location" (city where the fight will be) for the 7-10 days prior. Or have officials travel to where the fighters are training.
I'd even go so far as monitoring their weight as soon as a fight is announced. Going though all those extreme practices is pretty ridiculous. All so they can compete in a division that is lower than a weight that is natural for them.
Why not just weigh in close enough to the fight to make it impossible to regain your energy and weight? Take away the advantage, take away the practice. It's not some sacred practice
Why don't fighters just stay right around their current weight? I don't really understand the purpose of even attempting these dangerous feats.
I agree dehydration seems like cheating why not make a rule that you have to be a certain weight for a longer period.
I watched the last minutes of your video and that what you are suggesting is way better fight at your natural don't be a cheat to fight lighter and smaller opponents.
I don't understand why this is done at all. You're a fighter, isn't discipline on how you maintain your body weight supposed to be paramount? Damaging your body to get potentially easier fights seems to be ass backwards.
About the only thing you missed is the biggest driver: money. There is a lot of money on the line for the organizers to put on good matches for the paying audience. One of the easiest ways to do that is to pit top fighters in two weight classes against one another. After that it is just a matter of prodding the egos or otherwise pressuring the respective fighters, and they will do what they think needs to be done. In this case, what "needs" to be done is the heavier fighter has to drop to the lighter fighter's weight class, because the presented methods can achieve a weight drop far faster than trying to bulk the lighter fighter up.
Personally, I think weight class is far too simplistic at this point, especially for something touted as "mixed martial arts". I think something like a "force class" would be a better option, defined by how hard a fighter can hit and how much weight the fighter can bear, along with other metrics that may include weight.
I dropped 70lbs. In four months in 2019. When I woke up I was being loaded onto a gurney and driven to the emergency room after suffering a seizure. I don't recommend it. 😄
I do not know what is the reason for Making a weight for a weigh in. Then right after the weight in you can gain 5 or 7 pounds..during the fight
Weight in should be done right before a fight.
This is possibly the best breakdown of weight cutting and dangers I've ever seen. It's the worst thing about MMA and we'd see much better fights if it didn't exist.
Great video! I was wondering if you could do a video on shoulder injury (rotator cuff impingement / shoulder dislocation), since there aren’t any good ones on youtube.
Hypo, meaning low. Natri, referring to sodium, or more formally natrium, and -emia, meaning presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood.☝️
I just understand how its fair or makes any sense to get down to a specific weight for the day before but immediately put some of it back on, on the day of the fight??? Doesn't that completely defeat the purpose of losing such drastic amounts of weight in preparation??? Ngl im confused
You are exactly right. It _does_ defeat the purpose of entirely. It would make more sense to randomly test the weights of those fighters throughout the year or maybe as soon as a fight is announced. That's how they'd figure out what a "normal" weight is for a specific fighter.
It's also pretty ridiculous that Paddy gains so much weight between fights. He's being carefully coached and monitored, right? Then why don't those coaches advice him to stay away from that damn junk food and be more disciplined? None of that makes sense to me. It's like he's putting on that fat on purpose or something, it's as if he's proud of it.
I've done combat sports my whole life, in high school wrestling I rarely did any cuts and mostly stayed right in the centre of 215lb Cruiserweight class. I just didn't eat the day of the match and did a refeed after the weigh in. The couple times I dropped down to 189lbs (the next weight class down in the TSSAA) we mostly did drink enough water to make you spit and spit in a bottle, that sucked but, once did that water loading thing after watching a documentary on it and that was probably the most horrible I've felt in my life, besides the time I almost died from over hydration at a scouting function around the same time or recently with the stomach issue I have which probably has something to do with combat sports dieting.
I remember in high school, seeing wrestlers trying to sweat off a few pounds of water, which seemed sensible. Cutting TENS of pounds (or kilos) is NUTZ!
Why not weigh the fighters like an hour before the fight? That would put stop to this whole ordeal
I really enjoy your deep dive. You have a knack for presenting things for the layperson without talking down to us and your team does a great job putting the flourishes on the video.
You brushed on the issue that all fighters are forced to do it now. Doesn't this mean that basically everyone performs under their normal weight class ? If so, might as well forbid it, it negates any actual advantage at the cost of everyone's health.
This was an awesome and very informative video - I don’t know why it would be demonetized -the rules of TH-cam are as stupid as the rules of MMA -perhaps both organizations have financial gain by not disclosing this particular information
Weight cutting as always been foolish to me. Its never good for the body and it almost completely negates the reasoning behind weight classes
Agreed. Look at all the BS those guys have to go through to "make weight" in order to compete in a division that is lower than their natural weight. It's also ridiculous that this Paddy guy is so proud of his unhealthy eating habits. I don't understand how his coaches don't talk sense into him.
I feel like one of the best ways to combat this is to require a physical fitness test on the day of weigh in. This is something that US Soldiers have to do in order to maintain their status in active duty. They perform their PT test and then after the last event they are weighed and measured to ensure physical fitness standards. Could probably even just use the Army's old APFT of requiring 2 miles to be ran in ~16 minutes, 40 pushups in 2 minutes, and 50 situps (full situps, not crunches... aka shoulder blades on the ground and raise until the base of the neck is above the base of the spine). Should be no problem for any HEALTHY UFC fighter or any other professional fighter to be able to do. Assuming of course, if they are healthy. I think we can all agree we want our fighters to be healthy at all times.
Why can't there simply be a weight ON THE WAY to the ring? Like seriously, just do the weigh ins right before the match so it will promote contestants to stay SAFELY below the treshold (so in case of sudden small weight increase they will still qualify for their weight class)
Great video! I have done 2 weight cuts and although they were small, it was very difficult. I wish there was more resources for women in weight class based sports. I am not a super sweater so water loading and a carb free diet were my best options. I'd rather diet down weeks before a comp and avoid the weight cut altogether.
Fighting matches might be fun to watch for some, but intentionally trying to hit someone's head & smash his body? That's stupid, I wouldn't call that sport.
Great work team. Keep it up. Screw TH-cam and their stupid monetiztion rules.
The fact they do this dumb stuff BEFORE entering in a life or death situation is even wilder than any organisation still allows such a thing to happen. I've got no clue what kind of benefit this could even net with both fighters do this and this very much has an impact on their performance. You wouldn't do this if it wasn't an "Organised" sport, so why is making weight, or better truly depletion of water from the body even allowed in weight ins. Why not just have a better protocol that accounts for the water weight that makes a human being.
TH-cam has gone absolutely insane. Creators are leaving, forced out by stupid new policies!
If you have to cut and harm yourself to be better than your opponent then you are not an athlete you are a dysmorphic entertainer. Mma, kick boxing, boxing, mui thai, none of these are sports if the aim of is to hurt someone bad enough this is shad it takes to win. I also think if you gun hitting people is fun you have serious developmental problems.
I have never understood why fighters don’t just fight at their normal weights, doesn’t it just make more sense?
The weigh should be measured right before the fight. If you can't fight at that weight, you shouldn't be allowed to fight at that weight class.
This video should be shown to every idiot who blames Wonderboy for pulling out of his fight with Michel Peirera
It seems like there a really simple solution to this. Rather than doing the weigh in the day prior to the fight, put the scale outside of the octagon and weigh them the moment before they step into the cage. If you're fighting at 155, and you have to be 155 when you step into the cage, then there's no point in the weight cut. I mean, am I missing something here?
We can always rely on Dr. Chris to give us the facts and advocate for the best sports performance *AND* athlete health! 😎👉🏻👉🏻
Cynthia Lucero died of hyponatremia in the 2002 Boston marathon.
Congrats on passing 400k subs Dr. Raynor! Dang shame they keep hitting you with demonetization. Your content is frankly some of the most advertiser friendly I've ever seen, I simply do not understand their motivations. I'm sorry you have to deal with this garbage.
I think a fighter has zero integrity if they're cutting more than 10 lbs.
How is this not considered cheating? And if everyone starts doing it, what is even the point?
Very interesting topic. I've been involved in, and also competed in powerlifting for about 15 years, and its the same. I saw some very dangerous weight cuts that scared me, luckily our team never pushed it beyond. Now getting into bodybuilding in hopes to compete, and it's the same thing here as well.
Yeah be careful bodybuilding can be really dangerous if you push yourself too far.
When I was 15 I had a classmate who competed in martial arts on a national level. He practiced cutting and would do pretty extreme practices to dehydrate himself before weigh in. The fact he was already going to such measures as a child was horrifying
very informative i wasnt aware weight cutting was so crazy i went thru severe weight loss dehydration i couldnt really eat or drink but it was due to post surgical complications and it was hell i was constantly on TPN and in the hospital for a long time i looked like a skeleton i cant even explain in words how bad it was why someone would intentionaly do this is frankly insulting and dr Raynor you are totally right is like cheating ridiculous
Fight weigh in should be just like half an hour before the fight or even when entering the ring, if one fails it means disqualification 🙌
If someone wants to cut weight, it means he/she needs to fight while dehydrated and/or severely down on energy.
Weight classes are for parity and safety. Why do we allow this?
Superb facts as ever, to me it seems like the authorities, sponsors and other involved parties should take measures to ensure the fighters are asked to lose weight in a healthy fashion, and… honestly, disincentivised from cutting weight. Dehydration is not a good thing, extreme dehydration is a scary, terrible thing having experienced it personally in the desert.
And TH-cam - don’t demonetise shows like this.
The ridiculous cutting was the main reason I stopped competing at 35, and since I was never at anything like an elite level it was nowhere nearly as intense. Every time you do it, it feels like you're shortening you life by years and killing a bit of your brain. Also, not everyone can do it as well or they can't cope with it mentally which means there are potentially good fighters that never gets the chance because they fail at cutting. Not doing it isn't an option either, since that effectively makes you fight people above your weight class. What Rogan says is absolutely true, the entire process of cutting is basically a process that allows you to carry at least an entire weightclass of extra muscle mass into the ring. And since everyone does it at higher levels of competition you're not really getting any advantage, you're forced to do it to not have to fight people much larger than yourself.
They made me do this in high school wrestling and it was the worst
Excellent video. I'll pass it along to aspiring amateurs. The best approach is a healthy lifestyle -- diet and exercise -- to avoid gaining excessive weight between events. Relatively few elite boxers have done this -- notably Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather Jr and a handful of highly disciplined gym rats. But it's common among competitive cyclists and runners, especially distance runners. Even amateur runners and cyclists often have more self discipline than many boxers I've known.
Minimizing time between weigh in and fight would reduce some of the disparities and the temptation to game the body's ability to withstand extremes in dehydration and rehydration.
I see so many people who think MMA fighters & bodybuilders are the 'healthiest' a human can be. It bothers me because so many practices that get you to that level of muscle are severely unhealthy.
Even Dr. Mike dehydrated himself before a fight the last time.
Yeah, that is ridiculous. They are not even real fighters.
@@ChrisRaynorMD I think it was some "celebrity" boxing match. He does those.
@@ChrisRaynorMD I hope you don't mind, I left a comment on his latest video that he needs to watch this video.
Not only combat sports, but its nuts in Bodybuilding
As a nurse, this water loading is freaking me out. I'm surprised they're not resulting to using Frusemide
I’ve always thought that weight cutting days before a fight and then being heavier the day of the fight was basically cheating.
I’ve always felt that fighters should pretty much walk around at their fighting weight and weigh ins should be done right before the fight.
Dr. Chris can you do a video on the pros and cons of donating blood 🩸 and or plasma? And when should you or should you not donate?
i always felt that the method should be "meet each other's weight in the middle"
they are athletes so they are already fit. why not give them the ability to maintain their body without risking the health issues? chances are, it would be much easier to lose a tiny bit and gain a tiny bit to meet in the middle. they wouldn't have to change much on their diet and water intake. just enough to meet in the middle.
this would mean conventional weight classes would disappear but i'm sure there are better alternatives. height? striking power on a measurable device (like fight science)? idk, some other methods to determine if they are ready
No champions then either.
This was very informative.
he don't need the gym he need a haircut
It's unfortunate that TH-cam is so aggressively demonetizing quality content. Couldn't cut enough costs from the layoffs?
Reminds me why I prefer endurance sport for myself... that being said I still love to watch combat sports ^^'
In high-level competitions, everyone does everything they can to win. Even stupid stuff like this. A lot of high-level competition has more to do with how skilled you are at cheating without breaking the rules than at actually being good at something.
i cant believe 9 pounds in 12 hours is considered extreme. Before watching this video out of curiosity, I monitored my weight throughout the day for about a week and it naturally fluctuates 8-12 pounds though out the day
Mine only fluctuates with like a pound or two, tops 😅
What is a good wieght for me at 179cm tall with broad ish shoulders (endomorph body) im currently 90ks (200lbs) but when i fight i feel like i should be 80kgs (176 lbs) max
I bet their REAL cutting strategy involves primobolan and salbutamol
Your 2 cents should be listened ! For good reason ,that you are qualified and you know what you are talking about!
What I don't like about this video is the click-bait-and-switch title. The second word is "FAT" but weight loss gets about 30 seconds treatment (maintain a reasonable caloric deficit) and the rest of the information is about weight cutting. Nevertheless, Prof. Raynor, I learned a lot, and I don't object to that, but I feel like I walked into the wrong class.
They should combine several factors besides weight, like height, fat/muscle density and others. Using only weight is a lazy and ancient as a method.
Firstly "MMA On Point" has a really good video where they explore One Championships dehydration rules that I'd recommend watching and how it really isn't the answer that is being sold to people and is extremely easy to cheat.
Joe Rogan only had a problem with weight cutting when Pereira beat Izzy, just because Pereira cuts more weight than Izzy. It wasn't "sanctioned cheating worse than PEDs" when Izzy was cutting weight and holding the belt.
If the sport (UFC) and really all combat sports hated this element of the competition so much and considered it on par with PEDs then they would handle the weigh in the way amateur boxing does (in the country I'm in) where you weigh in the 2 hours before the fight, giving you the opportunity to attempt to cut a bit of water weight if you miss but nothing excessive.
Then there's the story of Dhafir "Dada 5000" Harris who "fought" Kimbo Slice at Bellator 149 (one of the worst shows I've ever seen). This was a "street grudge match" that would be settled in the cage. Except no one either told him or was too stupid to realize that he had to be under 265 lbs to fight. So he cuts 40 lbs in a short amount of time, gets gassed in the first 30 seconds of the fight, and looses in Rd. 3 add he passes out. He's immediately taken to the hospital after suffering from severe dehydration, kidney failure, and cardiac arrest. He spent 2 weeks in the hospital before being released.
To make things more embarrassing, Kimbo Slice didn't look much better and got caught on steroids, meaning the future ended as a No Contest.
The IOC actually does have a caffeine limit, because caffeine is undeniably a performance enhancer. So banning Redbull isn't exactly crazy.
I've lost 60lbs in 6 weeks in bootcamp I ate around 3000 calories everyday of straight fruit ,Vegetables & nuts
Water loss is horrible, that is all I can say. Only made the mistake once but, lost 20lbs in 3 hours on a 30 mile bike ride, 85f(29.4c) and full sun too. Holy cow did I feel like crap later. leg craps like holy hell too. Had a water bottle but that was gone early. I couldn't imagine actually wanting to do that. Sure I was riding to loose weight but didn't intend to pull that stunt.
Yeah definitely break up
heavyweight some which is 226-265 or in UFC's case 206+
So if fighters regain all the weight back before the fight... what is the point of then"cut"? Pretty dumb IMO...
Hey Doc, I just lost my sister to renal failure due to hepato-renal syndrome. It was brought on by her PNETS cancer. That said, it pains me to see these athletes put themselves through this.
Personally I don't think 5 pounds much less 2 is something worth quibbling about during weigh ins especially when the fighter is going to gain 10/20 pounds into the fight, that kind of defeats the purpose.