We were at a ramp on a busy lake in California, and there was an inexperienced guy trying to get his boat out of the water. It was pretty windy, the kid was crying, the wife was unsure how to "help". Long story short, a group of younger guys was clearly getting frustrated with him, and started chirping. A couple of us more "seasoned" boaters at the dock started sticking up for the guy. Told them that we all started somewhere, and that being an a@@hole wasn't making anything better. We gave the guy plenty of room, told him to take his time, and let him get it figured out. At the end of the day, a little grace can make everyone's day that much better. Besides, we've all been there.
Agreed, the more we help out, the less we will run into future issues by teaching. Reminds me of a time I was coming off the lake on a 2 lane boat ramp, and some guy had a small houseboat he had just launched, but tied off to the dock. I came in behind him, noticed the motor compartment lifted and asked if all was Ok. He said he had a dead battery, so I turned around, backed my boat up and put on jumpers I had. As typical with a battery, we sat a few minutes with my boat running before he finally had enough power to turn it over. About the time I had backed up to him, I noticed someone come down the ramp and stop, clearly waiting to launch. After a minute or so, she walked on the dock with an attitude, looked at the cables, then me standing in my running boat, and said, "you know you are blocking the ramp". I said yes, he launched and did not realize his battery was dead". She responded with more attitude " I need to launch". I responded again " I don't think you noticed, but I was coming off the lake, but noticed this guy needed help, so as you can see, I am trying to jump him so he can be on his way". She responded, "I need to launch; you are wasting my time". I said, "you mean you want to launch. This guy is disabled and NEEDS a jump. I too WANT to load up, but I am courteous and helping someone which is a little more important than the delay of a few minutes. BTW, you may have also noticed that vehicle waiting on the ramp. That is my wife you cut in front of while she was waiting to see if this guy was able to head out and we could load, or if needed to get his trailer back on." She yelled an expletive saying, "she can F%$ing wait", turning around and getting back in her vehicle. I was pretty surprised at this attitude as what her arrogance failed to recognize was I too was waiting for this guy; before she was. Why she complained to me, instead of him when I was on my boat while running like it was my fault baffled me as well. The guy's wife caught the end of it, thanking and apologizing to me saying we will hurry and get out. I said no, lets make sure you run it a few minutes to charge it and ensure it will start back up so you don't get stuck. I am in no hurry, and the creature of entitlement can wait, especially since she does not care about helping others or cutting line. Once their boat was started, they took off and this lady as anticipated started backing up, cutting off my wife. And yes, you guessed it. Once she backed the boat in, and launched, she had issues, had to get wet which is a rookie move, then tied up and started loading coolers, equipment and making all preparations for the trip. I was still able to load, but noticed 20 minutes later after I was all secured and packed up in the parking lot, she was still there prepping her boat, vehicle still parked on the launch. Ironic how we were wasting her time, but she did not care she was breaking every edicate code in prepping at the launch.
Let it cool down before you restart it. If you start it while it's that hot you can crak the block, it "shocks" the system. Like throwing hot water on an iced up window.
If it got too hot itll crack the block anyway. One night my bike was glowing red hot 🥵 🔥 and i ran over and turned it off. It backfired one loud ass time and it cracked at the spark plug screw in
I love to watch these videos. Not to see others fail but to learn from it. Here in The Netherlands boating is a decent popular thing, but trailering is not. So last year we bought a boat on a trailer and without a spot at some marina being available we were destined to trailer. I watched hundreds of these to learn how not to go about it. At the end of the season I had the whole trailer rebuild to got the trailering the way it supposed to go after nailing the right depth. The biggest issue was getting it centered on the trailer. So I learned a lot, still made some mistakes now and then, but nowadays I even feel comfortable to help others and giving tips when seeing them struggle. Thx for these videos including the lively comments. Cheers! ✌️
A lot of ass hats in America that would rather watch someone struggle and tear something up than lend a hand. In Texas it’s common to see someone helping their fellow boater load or unload.
Definitely DO NOT put it back in water. The smoke you see is the impeller burning up from dry spinning. At this point it’s toasted. Putting it in water and spinning it will send broken chunks into your cooling system and block water passages. This changes from simple water pump replacement job to dismantling the entire engine block to remove blockages.
Yup, and I would bet the "smoke" in the video was steam from the water intake dipping into the water a little when the boat tilted up onto the trailer and pushing a little water up into the overheated motor. At that point change the engine oil, do a compression test, and if all checks out ok drop the lower and replace the impeller.
worse yet, you don't want to add real cold lake water to a VERY HOT engine block, there is a high risk of cracking a head or the block itself. If it's hot, and you know it's hot, just shut it down, take it home and start checking the entire cooling system, including the water pump and HOPE to hell it doesn't burn oil, the block or heads aren't cracked and the head gaskets are still good. Most likely it's ok though, probably needs a water pump and a reverse flush to get all the rubber bits out; the "smoke" you were seeing was water evaporating out of the engine block/exhaust passages; it did get hot but most likely not hot enough to wreck anything besides the water pump and, maybe, the thermostat.
I don’t think I’ve seen this on your site….but a neat little trick for a newbie when backing a boat down the ramp: put your hand on the bottom ( 6 o’clock position ) on the steering wheel. Move the steering wheel the direction you want THE BACK OF THE BOAT TO GO. Done and done !
@@nicholasr7987 I recently sold a boat with a 1978 Johnson 70 hp that was still running strong and still had good compression too. If you do the proper maintenance and don't run them dry or into sand and gravel they last a long time.
I’m no mechanic, but I’d imagine shocking the engine with cold water couldn’t be good for it. Probably would be best to let it cool down slowly. The damage is already done anyways
One issue with overheating is that the piston rings can get so hot that they loose their tension and lower's your compression, pistons can expand and score the cylinder walls, the impellor wears out. Not good. But a modern engine setup should have a warning buzzer or auto cut off.
Doctors and Pilots use checklists for very good reasons. If skipping a step can mean your boat sinking, consider making your own checklists and using them. Checklists can make you a better captain.
I don't have a boat but want one badly. After watching these videos I'm confident that my maiden voyage will be better than it would have been. Thanks for your channel!
Do not restart the engine. Just let it cool down by air and replace the impeller and hope for the best regarding the cylinder block, pistons and piston rings.
Nope! Never run cold/cool water thru an overheated engine. That will invariably crack the block or warp the head. The only thing that may have saved it is the fact the impeller will be toast and not pumping.
When my friend and I launch his boat we do 4 inspections. The first two are for gear and install the drain plugs and check the engine. The second inspection at the top of the boat ramp is to remove the straps double check drain plugs and check engine hoses. It has never failed us.
@@fastwin493 At 79 years of age, the biggest problem I see are people who don’t think for themselves. They let these half baked morons in government tell them how and what to think. The requirements of character and integrity for anyone running for high office in this country has become so low it’s criminal. Anyone with money can run for office regardless of how corrupt they’ve been. The 45th president being a prime example! This baloney of white washing history is totally wrong! We are supposed to learn from history and taking out the bad parts so future generations are spared learning them is wrong. They are things that happened and shaped our nation and we can’t change what happened but we can learn from past mistakes and not allow history to repeat itself. This country has a history of mistreating minorities starting with the Indians, blacks, Japanese during the Second World War. Many human rights have been violated in our nations history. The media are certainly guilty of being biased and giving air time to many of these half baked morons in government to rant their lies and conspiracies. I love my country and I was raised to respect authority but I do not worship or trust many of these politicians on both sides of the aisle in congress. Granted they are a necessity as we have to have laws, order and accountably, to function as a society but I don’t let them influence how I think! There’s no such thing as an honest politician, as they’ve all lied at times and made back room deals as they climbed the ladder of success. As voters it’s our responsibility to hold these people we elect accountable for their deeds and words, and we have failed to do that.
I'm thankful to my 2 brothers who taught me EVERYTHING I need to know when it comes to boating, JSkiing, boat trailers, knotz, tides, maps, scuba diving, I mean you name it, they have both made small mistakes in their lives, but when they see this channel?? They just laugh and at times they could get upset? becuz of safety, lol! Like I said before Miami Boat Rampz never disappoints, lol!!!
I have quite a few fenders and lines. Our access area is pretty busy so I usually have both side set up so I can put in on any ramp without rushing switching sides
Watching these videos is painful sometimes. Some of these boaters that just have no clue what to do. I started driving a boat at 6 years old ( Im 58 now, it was the normal back in the day grew up on a lake) Your crew on board is key!!!!! If they have no idea of what to do to help, be ready for anything, have line attached, bumpers on, if not it will kill a fun day on the water! Something I was told and have told my own kids .... SLOW is good !!" Let the boat come about" and if your going slow it will do less damage to your boat, other boaters and the dock ! Also there are NO BREAKS on boats !!! Remember that reverse are is all you have to slow down the boat. Watch video on TH-cam as to what to do! Be Safe and Happy Boating !
I think if the motor is really hot, then dropping it into cold water is a good way to crack the block, but my guess is the water down in Miami is pretty warm so there isn't a real danger of this. Still it might be better to remove the covers and let the heat out and cool air pass over thru the motor.
That outboard running without water has almost certainly suffered long term damage. The heat generated in an uncooled block tempers the piston rings so that are not as “springy” anymore, so they do not make the correct contact with the cylinder bore, leading to glazing of the cylinder bore, loss of power, eventually to chattering of the rings and ring breakage. That is why one must be certain when one buys a used motor that it has not suffered this kind of damage. But no seller will ever admit to this event.
Same thing chris tietz said, let it air cool. Water pump needs inspection, it's probably a gob of goo. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to bump the starter every 30 seconds, for a few minutes, to keep anything from "sticking". (experience)
As the starter turns the engine over, it'll circulate some oil, which helps to carry off some of the heat and maybe flush any surfaces where oil has started to burn on. It's not much of an effect, but better than nothing if the piston rings haven't seized.
I'm amazed at the number of folks who have said "drop it back in the water" which is the wrong answer. What happens when cold stuff hits hot stuff? The hot stuff cracks or warps. The only thing that may have saved that motor is the fact that the impeller was toast and not pumping.
My Pops passed years ago, but was a boater for half his life. He would've loved this channel!! Always easy to be an armchair captain, just sometimes there's a pretty blatant lack of common sense. Always fun to watch tho! 👍🙂
I'm pretty sure that the first thing to go would be the water pump impeller, probably within the first 30 seconds and the rest is just history. Shut it off and get it to the shop and see if there are any good parts left in it. Interestingly, my 1996 75 hp Merc will run just fine with the prop out of the water, have done it lots of times. The water pick-up is on the forward portion of the lower unit and the pick-up is still in the water even though the prop isn't and the tattle-tale stream never skips a beat.
That looked more like steam than smoke, i think it was in just deep enough to get a little water. Near the end it was getting less water hence more steam .
yea at times you can see the tell-tale on the right side of the engine. Just poor resolution. It certainly wasn't a happy engine but it was getting a bit of water and the impeller was still putting out a solid stream when he hops onto the boat and lowers the engine further.
Guaranteed that the water pump impeller is a ball of rubber and water pump housing is melted. That’s what the smoke was, it would need to run longer for permanent engine damage.
you may bi right those engines have alarm when overheating. They jumped on the boat when they saw a smoke not when they hear alarm or maybe was an alarm as well?
I think that Yamaha has software that will shut the engine down when it starts to get too hot and then will restart in limp mode until the it cools down that’s the way my supposedly obsolete Etecs work
@@clarkeugene5727 I'm the guy who got his rowboat hung on a sand bar. A few years later I got a 15 ft. boat with 35 hp Johnson motor. It was cute, even had a windshield. We launched it at a local lake and made it to the middle of the lake when the motor quit. A gentle breeze too us the rest of the way . . . to the reeds growing at the far shore. We managed to get it started again and made it half way back to the launching ramp but the motor quit again. Start and stop, start and stop. We finally got it back on our trailer. A few days later I took the motor to the yacht harbor and had an outboard motor mechanic "fix" it. A few months pass and my son and I launched it again at Moss Landing, CA. We started it and made the turn to go under the bridge to explore the tidelands. Naturally, the engine quit and then we saw a seagull drift out the channel into the ocean. Oh, crap, the tide was going out. We were paddling with our too-short paddles when a couple of fishermen in an aluminum boat were returning from their fishing. They threw us a line without asking and towed us back to the launch ramp. Thanks, guys. I should have offered to buy them some beer. The new mechanic said the motor wasn't worth fixing. The boat now sits safely in my driveway. I'm keeping it in case we're hit with a tsunami..............
@@nemo227 Nice story there. Now every time you see the boat, you have fond memories. You know the boating world is full of Gentle Breezes. Paddles, and kind folks with towing Ropes. God Bless and keep you safe out there.
You mentioned that they had a good line into the dock, no. If you are on the left side you do not try to right hook into it. What ever side you are on approach at an angle, maybe 30 deg or less. As the bow approached the dock you steer the motor, or rudder away from the dock and apply reverse thrust gently, this will pull the stern twords the dock and stop forward movement. If done right no need to have all passenger leaning over the side to fend off a collision. Docking requires slow speed small power changes.
It’s kind of hilarious that you could be helping these people. I feel like you are watching a scary movie in real life and you are 5O yards away and could be screaming 😱 “run”!!!
The software in that Yamaha FB series should have shut the engine down at a preset high limit value or at least put it in limp mode but yeah once you seen the smoke it was too late for the impeller Good news is you can replace the impeller and ware plate for about 50 bucks
As to that boat running with the lower unit out of the water, the impeller lasts about 30 seconds. This engine has been overheated, but it most likely will survive. The big problem is that the impeller will HAVE to be replaced. This is not expensive or difficult, but the boat is no longer operable until this service is completed. The way to handle this is to get the boat in position at the dock, shut down the engine, raise it, and then put it on the trailer. You will also notice that they apparently took the boat out and ran the engine with a fabric cover on. This will cause high temperatures inside the cowling....
2 lines with medium size loops at one end that are the length of the boat and 2 that are 1 1/2 times the length as a minimum. 3/8' three strand nylon, minimum, so there is enough weight to throw a coil to the dock.
The impeller for the water cooling will fry in about 15 seconds running dry. If u re start it and it’s not pissing out water then the impeller is def fried and if you continue to run it you ll seize a piston when it overheats.
First guy had it, just needed some patience and learn how to turn motor into dock and bump the throttle. The water pump was toast way minutes with no water. Just let motor cool off without running, maybe take cover off. Do they all drop their trailers so far in to pick up? Or is just the ones that end up on your videos?
Running the impeller dry for that long probably turned it into goo. I have an old 2-stroke 50hp outboard and if you raise it with it running you definitely know right away. I know the newer 4-strokes are quieter but I've never heard one running out of the water.
You could hear that one idling on the video and the camera isn't that close to it. From what I see on these videos, there's alot of people at these ramps that have no situational awareness and are oblivious to what they're doing half the time.
Those 2 sleepwalkers weren't paying attention to thier surroundings....1 of the skids sees the smoke(finally!!)shuts motor off,,but doesn't drop prop in the water,,,lesson learned,i hope.......
Dam! That’s brutal, took years off the motor. I’m a truck driver. I check everything and hook up everything the same way regardless if I drive 1hr or 12. Here’s a tip, follow a plan to the letter each time you pull in or out. Don’t get distracted our listen to another…follow a process and you won’t forget something as stupid as this..
The impeller in the water pump is a melted blob of rubber, there isn't going be any circulation if you turn it back on. We didn't hear an over heat alarm so the rest of the engine is probably fine, but he is going to need a new impeller before he runs it again.
The overhear alarm and limp Mode should do their job to save the engine but the water impeller doesn’t like running without cooling as it can melt or maybe even disintegrate. A fun weekend project replacing that!
As far as for that line if you come in and make a turn at the dock expect the stern to swing out, nobody seems to get this, in wind or current point the bow at the dock with fenders out when it contacts then swing the stern into the dock pivoting off of the fender. I boat in a river where there is always a current and generally windy, not many boaters there as it's a challenge to boaters like the ones posted here, sometimes they do come, we rescue them and they never come back. It keeps the river free of unqualified Captain's.
I part time crew on a sailing charter yacht. One of my jobs is to helm the rib, I can dock it to a moving boat in wind and current. It's not difficult once you understand how a boat behaves, you don't steer a boat you manipulate it. However everyone has to learn at some point and the only way to do that is by experience, I just got lucky growing up with a river in the back yard. So I grew up with boats, I think when I was 6 or 7 my dad let me helm his 6m steel boat all by myself.
I have a 2015 Mercury Command Trust outboard and the manual says it has an over-heat alarm and cutoff though I've never tested it to see. I would say the water pump is toast and I would have let it cool down without starting it again and checked the water pump, cylinder compression, and leak down before starting it again.
I think the damage occurs during the extreme heat and it doesn't matter too much whether you turn it off or or drop it in after the fact, so long as you do something to stop the overheating. I'm not an expert though. My second guess would be to get water in it and not let it stop while your pistons are red hot because they may seize in place.
Just found the channel. Pretty new to boating and tight spaces at my marina. If I do happen to bump another boat, what is customary action? I'm generally going ultra slow - a ton of neutral - but now and again I just get blown to the side or miscalculate. There have been instances where I'm alone so I'm fine, but if someone were there, I would have bumped them lightly. Then what?
2:28 It's a Yamaha and the don't make a lot of noise. So at idle you almost can't hear them. They should have put it back in the water to cool, but ensure that the pilot jet is working. Otherwise turn it off because the impeller is dead.. The head gasket might be burned.
Well if you like most people, they only launch 10 times or less per year, yeah easy then to be perfect. For the last 30 years I launch boats at minimum 10 times per day, every day. Even left the straps on more than once and the drain plug, dont even talk about it. But to be perfect like you.... yeah sure.
Leave the motor running , it was already toast by the time they noticed it. Feel the pain for The New family boater.. I have left the staps on .. it happends. From .St. Augustine Love your content guys. ty
i recently burnt an impeller badly due to a kink in the hose. noticed my temp above halfway. needed a new one, only took about 5 mins to totally destroy it.
Is it just me, or does it look like the jet ski getting pulled out on the ramp just to the left also has the engine running while it’s on the trailer and conpletely out of the water?
As always the comments section full of perfect ultimate boaters. Their whole boats is full of fenders, lines, and flotation devices. No room for friends, but no one can stand to be around them anyway.
They definitely should have left it running and tried to get water pumping to bring the temperature of the powerhead back down when you saw the smoke the impeller was already toast But it might still pump enough water up to cool the powerhead a bit
Oh hell no! Never run cold/cool water thru an overheated engine. That will invariably crack the block or warp the head. The only thing that may have saved it is the fact the impeller will be taost and not pumping.
@@marvindebot3264 this is a Yamaha FS series 4 stroke it does not have aluminum heads and it has forged pistons in a sleeved block it also has software that will shut the engine off if it comes close to high temperature limit it would be fine to see if enough water will pump up to cool the powerhead
Engines not toast but almost there was a very very little but of water from the engine. But that impeller it's done and running in the water to cool it down could cause damage not from the cold water but the impeller material breaking off and clogging the cooling channels in the engine. But also could cause some warping depending on how slow the water moves through the engine
I worked at a small marina and the same thing happened too the the captain leaving the motor running and it overheated and I told hem to trim down and leave it in for a few minutes and all was good and then a couple days later it ended up the motor needed to be rebuilt and new water pump
We were at a ramp on a busy lake in California, and there was an inexperienced guy trying to get his boat out of the water. It was pretty windy, the kid was crying, the wife was unsure how to "help". Long story short, a group of younger guys was clearly getting frustrated with him, and started chirping. A couple of us more "seasoned" boaters at the dock started sticking up for the guy. Told them that we all started somewhere, and that being an a@@hole wasn't making anything better. We gave the guy plenty of room, told him to take his time, and let him get it figured out. At the end of the day, a little grace can make everyone's day that much better. Besides, we've all been there.
Agreed, the more we help out, the less we will run into future issues by teaching.
Reminds me of a time I was coming off the lake on a 2 lane boat ramp, and some guy had a small houseboat he had just launched, but tied off to the dock. I came in behind him, noticed the motor compartment lifted and asked if all was Ok. He said he had a dead battery, so I turned around, backed my boat up and put on jumpers I had. As typical with a battery, we sat a few minutes with my boat running before he finally had enough power to turn it over. About the time I had backed up to him, I noticed someone come down the ramp and stop, clearly waiting to launch. After a minute or so, she walked on the dock with an attitude, looked at the cables, then me standing in my running boat, and said, "you know you are blocking the ramp". I said yes, he launched and did not realize his battery was dead". She responded with more attitude " I need to launch". I responded again " I don't think you noticed, but I was coming off the lake, but noticed this guy needed help, so as you can see, I am trying to jump him so he can be on his way". She responded, "I need to launch; you are wasting my time". I said, "you mean you want to launch. This guy is disabled and NEEDS a jump. I too WANT to load up, but I am courteous and helping someone which is a little more important than the delay of a few minutes. BTW, you may have also noticed that vehicle waiting on the ramp. That is my wife you cut in front of while she was waiting to see if this guy was able to head out and we could load, or if needed to get his trailer back on." She yelled an expletive saying, "she can F%$ing wait", turning around and getting back in her vehicle.
I was pretty surprised at this attitude as what her arrogance failed to recognize was I too was waiting for this guy; before she was. Why she complained to me, instead of him when I was on my boat while running like it was my fault baffled me as well. The guy's wife caught the end of it, thanking and apologizing to me saying we will hurry and get out. I said no, lets make sure you run it a few minutes to charge it and ensure it will start back up so you don't get stuck. I am in no hurry, and the creature of entitlement can wait, especially since she does not care about helping others or cutting line. Once their boat was started, they took off and this lady as anticipated started backing up, cutting off my wife. And yes, you guessed it. Once she backed the boat in, and launched, she had issues, had to get wet which is a rookie move, then tied up and started loading coolers, equipment and making all preparations for the trip. I was still able to load, but noticed 20 minutes later after I was all secured and packed up in the parking lot, she was still there prepping her boat, vehicle still parked on the launch. Ironic how we were wasting her time, but she did not care she was breaking every edicate code in prepping at the launch.
Wow what a great comment. Too bad more of the world doesn't have your view!!❤
A little grace is good for everybody, you just never know when your gonna need it yourself !!!!!!!
3:13 everyone is so busy looking at the smoking motor, they missed the guy revving the jetskii to the moon driving away. Lol
Let it cool down before you restart it. If you start it while it's that hot you can crak the block, it "shocks" the system. Like throwing hot water on an iced up window.
Yep! the impeller is probably junk after running that long..
They already melted impeller, probably no water would go in to the engine in the first place.
Sad watching that.
I was just about to type the same thing the cool water i likely to crack the head or warp it
If it got too hot itll crack the block anyway. One night my bike was glowing red hot 🥵 🔥 and i ran over and turned it off. It backfired one loud ass time and it cracked at the spark plug screw in
I love to watch these videos. Not to see others fail but to learn from it. Here in The Netherlands boating is a decent popular thing, but trailering is not. So last year we bought a boat on a trailer and without a spot at some marina being available we were destined to trailer. I watched hundreds of these to learn how not to go about it. At the end of the season I had the whole trailer rebuild to got the trailering the way it supposed to go after nailing the right depth. The biggest issue was getting it centered on the trailer. So I learned a lot, still made some mistakes now and then, but nowadays I even feel comfortable to help others and giving tips when seeing them struggle. Thx for these videos including the lively comments. Cheers! ✌️
If your learning from these guys your in trouble.
@@REXONATER70 apparently you can read. Clearly you don’t understand what you’re reading. Now who’s the one in trouble here?
@@arjen580 if you come here to learn it’s too late.
A lot of ass hats in America that would rather watch someone struggle and tear something up than lend a hand. In Texas it’s common to see someone helping their fellow boater load or unload.
I'm hear to see the failure
Definitely DO NOT put it back in water. The smoke you see is the impeller burning up from dry spinning. At this point it’s toasted. Putting it in water and spinning it will send broken chunks into your cooling system and block water passages. This changes from simple water pump replacement job to dismantling the entire engine block to remove blockages.
Ouch. Thanks for the advice. I would not have thought of that. Are the impeller‘s rubber or metal?
rubber
Yup, and I would bet the "smoke" in the video was steam from the water intake dipping into the water a little when the boat tilted up onto the trailer and pushing a little water up into the overheated motor. At that point change the engine oil, do a compression test, and if all checks out ok drop the lower and replace the impeller.
correct answer!
worse yet, you don't want to add real cold lake water to a VERY HOT engine block, there is a high risk of cracking a head or the block itself. If it's hot, and you know it's hot, just shut it down, take it home and start checking the entire cooling system, including the water pump and HOPE to hell it doesn't burn oil, the block or heads aren't cracked and the head gaskets are still good. Most likely it's ok though, probably needs a water pump and a reverse flush to get all the rubber bits out; the "smoke" you were seeing was water evaporating out of the engine block/exhaust passages; it did get hot but most likely not hot enough to wreck anything besides the water pump and, maybe, the thermostat.
I don’t think I’ve seen this on your site….but a neat little trick for a newbie when backing a boat down the ramp: put your hand on the bottom ( 6 o’clock position ) on the steering wheel. Move the steering wheel the direction you want THE BACK OF THE BOAT TO GO.
Done and done !
Trick I used when I first learned how to drive a semi
LOL..."This is how baby jet skis are made"....I love it!
Back in the 2 stroke days you would never forget the engine is running. They made themself noticed
I still have a force *Chrysler 2 stroke. Can't kill it. As hard as I have tried....it won't die.
@@nicholasr7987 I recently sold a boat with a 1978 Johnson 70 hp that was still running strong and still had good compression too. If you do the proper maintenance and don't run them dry or into sand and gravel they last a long time.
I’m no mechanic, but I’d imagine shocking the engine with cold water couldn’t be good for it. Probably would be best to let it cool down slowly. The damage is already done anyways
One issue with overheating is that the piston rings can get so hot that they loose their tension and lower's your compression, pistons can expand and score the cylinder walls, the impellor wears out. Not good. But a modern engine setup should have a warning buzzer or auto cut off.
Doctors and Pilots use checklists for very good reasons. If skipping a step can mean your boat sinking, consider making your own checklists and using them. Checklists can make you a better captain.
Looks like the ski pulling out next to the boat at 3:10 may have been still running also
Yes it was running, all the way up the ramp too.
Yeah double toasted motors. Maybe they are friends
You cant make this s up, I didnt notice until I saw your comment
I have closed system cooling on my ski. I don’t need water to run it
The jet ski was actually powering the vehicle towing the trailer, its a new way to travel, great on the highway.
"The other boat that bumped into the first boat caused the motor to burn" that's my story and I'm sticking to it 🤣
Sue man sue
Yup. We all saw it.
I don't have a boat but want one badly. After watching these videos I'm confident that my maiden voyage will be better than it would have been. Thanks for your channel!
5:35 "... how baby jet skis are made." You busted my gut, guru.
Bustin a jet ski nut.....all over ya ramp...
Do not restart the engine. Just let it cool down by air and replace the impeller and hope for the best regarding the cylinder block, pistons and piston rings.
It's still running. Yes. Drop it back in the water!!!
Nope! Never run cold/cool water thru an overheated engine. That will invariably crack the block or warp the head. The only thing that may have saved it is the fact the impeller will be toast and not pumping.
When my friend and I launch his boat we do 4 inspections. The first two are for gear and install the drain plugs and check the engine. The second inspection at the top of the boat ramp is to remove the straps double check drain plugs and check engine hoses. It has never failed us.
Ronnie Eub* unfortunately to many in today’s society weren’t blessed with foresight and common sense.
Not only in boating but daily living as well!
The guy might have left his straps on. But at least he remembered to put the plugs in. That is if he knows to remove the plugs to drain the bilge.
@@fastwin493 At 79 years of age, the biggest problem I see are people who don’t think for themselves.
They let these half baked morons in government tell them how and what to think.
The requirements of character and integrity for anyone running for high office in this country has become so low it’s criminal.
Anyone with money can run for office regardless of how corrupt they’ve been. The 45th president being a prime example!
This baloney of white washing history is totally wrong! We are supposed to learn from history and taking out the bad parts so future generations are spared learning them is wrong.
They are things that happened and shaped our nation and we can’t change what happened but we can learn from past mistakes and not allow history to repeat itself.
This country has a history of mistreating minorities starting with the Indians, blacks, Japanese during the Second World War. Many human rights have been violated in our nations history.
The media are certainly guilty of being biased and giving air time to many of these half baked morons in government to rant their lies and conspiracies.
I love my country and I was raised to respect authority but I do not worship or trust many of these politicians on both sides of the aisle in congress.
Granted they are a necessity as we have to have laws, order and accountably, to function as a society but I don’t let them influence how I think!
There’s no such thing as an honest politician, as they’ve all lied at times and made back room deals as they climbed the ladder of success.
As voters it’s our responsibility to hold these people we elect accountable for their deeds and words, and we have failed to do that.
@@fastwin493 As you stated it’s about the Benjamin’s. Power and greed go hand in hand!
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Very interesting. Thanks for posting this. Have a nice day now.
I'm thankful to my 2 brothers who taught me EVERYTHING I need to know when it comes to boating, JSkiing, boat trailers, knotz, tides, maps, scuba diving, I mean you name it, they have both made small mistakes in their lives, but when they see this channel?? They just laugh and at times they could get upset? becuz of safety, lol! Like I said before Miami Boat Rampz never disappoints, lol!!!
I have quite a few fenders and lines. Our access area is pretty busy so I usually have both side set up so I can put in on any ramp without rushing switching sides
Thanks for what you do. Guru. Be well. Stay safe.
3:15 that jet ski was smoking too, looks like it was also on.
Clearing the pump of water, normal thing to do.
Watching these videos is painful sometimes. Some of these boaters that just have no clue what to do. I started driving a boat at 6 years old ( Im 58 now, it was the normal back in the day grew up on a lake) Your crew on board is key!!!!! If they have no idea of what to do to help, be ready for anything, have line attached, bumpers on, if not it will kill a fun day on the water! Something I was told and have told my own kids .... SLOW is good !!" Let the boat come about" and if your going slow it will do less damage to your boat, other boaters and the dock ! Also there are NO BREAKS on boats !!! Remember that reverse are is all you have to slow down the boat. Watch video on TH-cam as to what to do! Be Safe and Happy Boating !
I think if the motor is really hot, then dropping it into cold water is a good way to crack the block, but my guess is the water down in Miami is pretty warm so there isn't a real danger of this. Still it might be better to remove the covers and let the heat out and cool air pass over thru the motor.
That outboard running without water has almost certainly suffered long term damage. The heat generated in an uncooled block tempers the piston rings so that are not as “springy” anymore, so they do not make the correct contact with the cylinder bore, leading to glazing of the cylinder bore, loss of power, eventually to chattering of the rings and ring breakage.
That is why one must be certain when one buys a used motor that it has not suffered this kind of damage. But no seller will ever admit to this event.
Pretty sure with these modern engines temps are logged somewhere in the computer and the mechanic inspecting the motor will be able to pull that data
Nice video Broncos.. as always, love your commentary... thanks man.
Same thing chris tietz said, let it air cool. Water pump needs inspection, it's probably a gob of goo. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to bump the starter every 30 seconds, for a few minutes, to keep anything from "sticking". (experience)
The impeller is now shot.
@@seaeagle8976 yeah that thing was done for sure - they burn up quick with no water. didn't piss when they started back up.
As the starter turns the engine over, it'll circulate some oil, which helps to carry off some of the heat and maybe flush any surfaces where oil has started to burn on. It's not much of an effect, but better than nothing if the piston rings haven't seized.
I'm amazed at the number of folks who have said "drop it back in the water" which is the wrong answer. What happens when cold stuff hits hot stuff? The hot stuff cracks or warps. The only thing that may have saved that motor is the fact that the impeller was toast and not pumping.
My Pops passed years ago, but was a boater for half his life. He would've loved this channel!! Always easy to be an armchair captain, just sometimes there's a pretty blatant lack of common sense. Always fun to watch tho! 👍🙂
May he rest in peace.
I'm pretty sure that the first thing to go would be the water pump impeller, probably within the first 30 seconds and the rest is just history. Shut it off and get it to the shop and see if there are any good parts left in it. Interestingly, my 1996 75 hp Merc will run just fine with the prop out of the water, have done it lots of times. The water pick-up is on the forward portion of the lower unit and the pick-up is still in the water even though the prop isn't and the tattle-tale stream never skips a beat.
Spot on. Impeller first then the gaskets.
That looked more like steam than smoke, i think it was in just deep enough to get a little water. Near the end it was getting less water hence more steam .
I agree. The intakes are below the prop.
I didn't see any cooling water coming out.
yea at times you can see the tell-tale on the right side of the engine. Just poor resolution. It certainly wasn't a happy engine but it was getting a bit of water and the impeller was still putting out a solid stream when he hops onto the boat and lowers the engine further.
Guaranteed that the water pump impeller is a ball of rubber and water pump housing is melted.
That’s what the smoke was, it would need to run longer for permanent engine damage.
you may bi right those engines have alarm when overheating. They jumped on the boat when they saw a smoke not when they hear alarm or maybe was an alarm as well?
I think that Yamaha has software that will shut the engine down when it starts to get too hot and then will restart in limp mode until the it cools down that’s the way my supposedly obsolete Etecs work
@@johnbumpus7138 My friends Yamaha has this function so you're right. The smoke was probably a melted impeller.
Its not smoke its steam. Smoke does not dissipate that quickly.
@@Kent. Not smoke it was steam. Smoke doesn’t dissipate that quickly.
Check lists. Pilots use them. I use one when I use my motorhome. There's nothing wrong with having and using a check list.
That is a great idea. That way, even a new boater will be able to keep things under control.
@@clarkeugene5727 I'm the guy who got his rowboat hung on a sand bar. A few years later I got a 15 ft. boat with 35 hp Johnson motor. It was cute, even had a windshield. We launched it at a local lake and made it to the middle of the lake when the motor quit. A gentle breeze too us the rest of the way . . . to the reeds growing at the far shore. We managed to get it started again and made it half way back to the launching ramp but the motor quit again. Start and stop, start and stop. We finally got it back on our trailer. A few days later I took the motor to the yacht harbor and had an outboard motor mechanic "fix" it. A few months pass and my son and I launched it again at Moss Landing, CA. We started it and made the turn to go under the bridge to explore the tidelands. Naturally, the engine quit and then we saw a seagull drift out the channel into the ocean. Oh, crap, the tide was going out. We were paddling with our too-short paddles when a couple of fishermen in an aluminum boat were returning from their fishing. They threw us a line without asking and towed us back to the launch ramp. Thanks, guys. I should have offered to buy them some beer. The new mechanic said the motor wasn't worth fixing. The boat now sits safely in my driveway. I'm keeping it in case we're hit with a tsunami..............
@@nemo227 Nice story there. Now every time you see the boat, you have fond memories. You know the boating world is full of Gentle Breezes. Paddles, and kind folks with towing Ropes. God Bless and keep you safe out there.
You mentioned that they had a good line into the dock, no. If you are on the left side you do not try to right hook into it. What ever side you are on approach at an angle, maybe 30 deg or less. As the bow approached the dock you steer the motor, or rudder away from the dock and apply reverse thrust gently, this will pull the stern twords the dock and stop forward movement. If done right no need to have all passenger leaning over the side to fend off a collision. Docking requires slow speed small power changes.
You must be mistaken because the owner of this channel knows EVERYTHING! Thumbs down on all his videos.
Really like your channel man. Good information. Thanks.
That impeller is toast.
It must be overheat your engine day at the boat ramp. Because at 3 minutes and 15 seconds that jet ski was running out of the water also
You are supposed to run a jet ski out of the water briefly to clear the water out of the water jackets and the water jet in the back.
I NEVER forget the transom straps....
It’s kind of hilarious that you could be helping these people.
I feel like you are watching a scary movie in real life and you are 5O yards away and could be screaming 😱 “run”!!!
Not judging at all, it’s just a funny image in my head. ✌️
Glad I got a Triumph, bump and grind all day on it, no problem.
That impellor was destroyed. When they trimmed it down and restarted it, there didn't seem to be a tell tale spraying out.
There wasn't . Impeller melting is what caused the smoke. Never should have restarted. Captain's fault.
The software in that Yamaha FB series should have shut the engine down at a preset high limit value or at least put it in limp mode but yeah once you seen the smoke it was too late for the impeller Good news is you can replace the impeller and ware plate for about 50 bucks
Cold water into a hot motor?
Warped alloy.
Can you go in the water there (to remove the straps even) or will a croc attack you?
This channel is reason 1-7 why I own a kayak....
As to that boat running with the lower unit out of the water, the impeller lasts about 30 seconds. This engine has been overheated, but it most likely will survive. The big problem is that the impeller will HAVE to be replaced. This is not expensive or difficult, but the boat is no longer operable until this service is completed.
The way to handle this is to get the boat in position at the dock, shut down the engine, raise it, and then put it on the trailer.
You will also notice that they apparently took the boat out and ran the engine with a fabric cover on. This will cause high temperatures inside the cowling....
Someone has to visit the shop soon!
If these guys drive cars the way they do with boats, Miami would a junkyard!
Getting a jet ski off is how little jet skis are made, yeah, that makes sense!
2 lines with medium size loops at one end that are the length of the boat and 2 that are 1 1/2 times the length as a minimum. 3/8' three strand nylon, minimum, so there is enough weight to throw a coil to the dock.
The impeller for the water cooling will fry in about 15 seconds running dry. If u re start it and it’s not pissing out water then the impeller is def fried and if you continue to run it you ll seize a piston when it overheats.
Lol me thinks that scuff on the boat isnt the worst of the problems 🤣 someones buying a new outboard for christmas
Nah just a new impeller kit Worst case scenario the pump housing shot as well
On a small boat midship line is priceless if you insist on only one line
Captain’s responsibility for shutting that engine off 🤦🏼♂️
First guy had it, just needed some patience and learn how to turn motor into dock and bump the throttle.
The water pump was toast way minutes with no water. Just let motor cool off without running, maybe take cover off.
Do they all drop their trailers so far in to pick up? Or is just the ones that end up on your videos?
Impeller is toast
if he's lucky ,that's better than a warped head
Running the impeller dry for that long probably turned it into goo. I have an old 2-stroke 50hp outboard and if you raise it with it running you definitely know right away. I know the newer 4-strokes are quieter but I've never heard one running out of the water.
You could hear that one idling on the video and the camera isn't that close to it. From what I see on these videos, there's alot of people at these ramps that have no situational awareness and are oblivious to what they're doing half the time.
Those 2 sleepwalkers weren't paying attention to thier surroundings....1 of the skids sees the smoke(finally!!)shuts motor off,,but doesn't drop prop in the water,,,lesson learned,i hope.......
Dam! That’s brutal, took years off the motor. I’m a truck driver. I check everything and hook up everything the same way regardless if I drive 1hr or 12. Here’s a tip, follow a plan to the letter each time you pull in or out. Don’t get distracted our listen to another…follow a process and you won’t forget something as stupid as this..
The impeller in the water pump is a melted blob of rubber, there isn't going be any circulation if you turn it back on. We didn't hear an over heat alarm so the rest of the engine is probably fine, but he is going to need a new impeller before he runs it again.
You should come on down to St.Croix USVI. its a whole other world at their boat ramps
Boat number one.. look out everybody coming in hot 🤪
That impeller is toast by then. Wouldnt matter either way. That smoke looks to be from the impeller haha
The overhear alarm and limp
Mode should do their job to save the engine but the water impeller doesn’t like running without cooling as it can melt or maybe even disintegrate. A fun weekend project replacing that!
As far as for that line if you come in and make a turn at the dock expect the stern to swing out, nobody seems to get this, in wind or current point the bow at the dock with fenders out when it contacts then swing the stern into the dock pivoting off of the fender. I boat in a river where there is always a current and generally windy, not many boaters there as it's a challenge to boaters like the ones posted here, sometimes they do come, we rescue them and they never come back. It keeps the river free of unqualified Captain's.
I part time crew on a sailing charter yacht. One of my jobs is to helm the rib, I can dock it to a moving boat in wind and current.
It's not difficult once you understand how a boat behaves, you don't steer a boat you manipulate it.
However everyone has to learn at some point and the only way to do that is by experience, I just got lucky growing up with a river in the back yard. So I grew up with boats, I think when I was 6 or 7 my dad let me helm his 6m steel boat all by myself.
I have a 2015 Mercury Command Trust outboard and the manual says it has an over-heat alarm and cutoff though I've never tested it to see. I would say the water pump is toast and I would have let it cool down without starting it again and checked the water pump, cylinder compression, and leak down before starting it again.
I think the damage occurs during the extreme heat and it doesn't matter too much whether you turn it off or or drop it in after the fact, so long as you do something to stop the overheating. I'm not an expert though. My second guess would be to get water in it and not let it stop while your pistons are red hot because they may seize in place.
Just found the channel. Pretty new to boating and tight spaces at my marina. If I do happen to bump another boat, what is customary action? I'm generally going ultra slow - a ton of neutral - but now and again I just get blown to the side or miscalculate. There have been instances where I'm alone so I'm fine, but if someone were there, I would have bumped them lightly. Then what?
Bust Out A Thousand
2:28 It's a Yamaha and the don't make a lot of noise. So at idle you almost can't hear them. They should have put it back in the water to cool, but ensure that the pilot jet is working. Otherwise turn it off because the impeller is dead.. The head gasket might be burned.
In 20+ years. I never forgot the straps or drain plug. It's called a pre-launch Inspection. Where you get everything ready before you launch.
You the man
You "born as a pro" people must be proud to have never (ever) made a mistake. 🙄
Well if you like most people, they only launch 10 times or less per year, yeah easy then to be perfect. For the last 30 years I launch boats at minimum 10 times per day, every day. Even left the straps on more than once and the drain plug, dont even talk about it. But to be perfect like you.... yeah sure.
yea these guys must not use the staging lanes lol
I got to work the other day and realized I forgot my wallet at home
Yes,drop it back in the water while running because it will continue to get hotter even after you shut it off at least for the first few minutes.
Leave the motor running , it was already toast by the time they noticed it. Feel the pain for The New family boater.. I have left the staps on .. it happends. From .St. Augustine Love your content guys. ty
well, i guess floridians do deserve their reputation to some degree
Never, never cool an engine fast once it's been overheated, a cracked head at least will occur. Let it cool down as slowly as possible.
Shut it down and let it cool naturally. Running cold water through an over heated motor is inviting a cracked block/ head.
Was that jetski at 3:00 also pulled out running? That can't be good.
🤦♂️is an understatement.
i recently burnt an impeller badly due to a kink in the hose. noticed my temp above halfway. needed a new one, only took about 5 mins to totally destroy it.
Is it just me, or does it look like the jet ski getting pulled out on the ramp just to the left also has the engine running while it’s on the trailer and conpletely out of the water?
First man thinks he can drive his boat like his car. Haha.
Once you overheat, let air cool it slowly....rapid cooling will stress the aluminum block, leading to cracks.
As always the comments section full of perfect ultimate boaters. Their whole boats is full of fenders, lines, and flotation devices. No room for friends, but no one can stand to be around them anyway.
I dont think that engine got that hot. so it should be fine. but The boat ramps are comedy. I have seen so many things i cant even fathom at the ramp.
These guys are going to make sure they finish it off! Why is it people that own boats are usually not qualified to own boats
@ 3:13 the guy on the jetski seems to think it's a really good idea and totally out performs the boat guy 🤯
Let the motor cool on its own. If you overheat it then cool it down with fresh water it can warp the head of crack the block by cooling to quick.
What about a check list? I used one with the boat and the air plane.
I guess that you need to put fenders on both sides of your boat at this place.
Not many seem to know what a fender or dock line, let alone how to throw a line or tie off on the dock…..
And a person on "watch duty" to push off the errant fellow boater.
That impeller is GONE LIKE THE WIND
Smoke was likely the impeller melting since it's rubber. Motor just idling may be okay, would likely get a hot buzzer going when it over temped.
That Yamaha is a big boat to be pulled by that BMW suv
They definitely should have left it running and tried to get water pumping to bring the temperature of the powerhead back down when you saw the smoke the impeller was already toast But it might still pump enough water up to cool the powerhead a bit
Oh hell no! Never run cold/cool water thru an overheated engine. That will invariably crack the block or warp the head. The only thing that may have saved it is the fact the impeller will be taost and not pumping.
@@marvindebot3264 this is a Yamaha FS series 4 stroke it does not have aluminum heads and it has forged pistons in a sleeved block it also has software that will shut the engine off if it comes close to high temperature limit it would be fine to see if enough water will pump up to cool the powerhead
Engines not toast but almost there was a very very little but of water from the engine. But that impeller it's done and running in the water to cool it down could cause damage not from the cold water but the impeller material breaking off and clogging the cooling channels in the engine. But also could cause some warping depending on how slow the water moves through the engine
I worked at a small marina and the same thing happened too the the captain leaving the motor running and it overheated and I told hem to trim down and leave it in for a few minutes and all was good and then a couple days later it ended up the motor needed to be rebuilt and new water pump
I’m amazed that the motor keeps running that slowly.
its not running that slow, that just drag from the lower unit causing it to turn. its in neutral.
@@russellv6234 oh yeah, my motorcycle does that when it’s on its center stand.
Running cold water through an overheating engine is not a good idea. The sudden change of temp can cause major damage.
Knotheads
Water pump is melted at that point, time for a new water pump and thermostat. Hopefully the power head is ok.
How can you not realize the motor is running? Is it that quiet and smooth at idle? No outboard I have ever been around is.
4 stroke
Yes, drop it and cool it down. Air is not going to help right away. I'm certain that the smoke was the impeller cooking.
Time for a new impeller