Talkative Churchgoer Stalks Pastor Before Killing Secretary | Mary Jane Fonder Case Analysis

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  • @VonW0lf3N5t31N
    @VonW0lf3N5t31N 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Imagine being so weird and annoying your pastor stops answering your calls. 🤔🤣

    • @mariekatherine5238
      @mariekatherine5238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I don’t think this is all that unusual. Pastors seem to be a magnet for weird and sometimes unstable women. I worked for a time in a rectory office and there were a few eccentric or strange women always wanting to speak with the priests, the young, good looking one in particular. There was only one who called for the old, grumpy priest, and she was calling to complain.

    • @RobespierreThePoof
      @RobespierreThePoof 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mariekatherine5238 lol. Oh dear. I honestly can't think of anything less attractive than a man of the cloth.

    • @TheHikingHoosier
      @TheHikingHoosier หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Like Ned Flanders 😂😂

    • @potshrooms69
      @potshrooms69 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not that hard to believe

    • @triciajohansen7124
      @triciajohansen7124 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He later felt that she needed to attend another church.

  • @rogercroft3218
    @rogercroft3218 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    "You can't deny what is going on between us."
    "Of course not. You're stalking me."

  • @BaileyLondon27
    @BaileyLondon27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Dating married men is never the move

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Understatement of the century.

    • @isabellind1292
      @isabellind1292 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I'm sure all those married men's wives found out while their husbands were questioned as to their whereabouts/alibis during the crime. The price of admission for stepping outside of your marriage is you will become suspect if your mistress turns up dead.

  • @JDoe001
    @JDoe001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    Why haven't the police gotten with the tree cutter to locate the area that she called sacred? The body of her father's probably there and he needs justice!

    • @spinetingler-op6st
      @spinetingler-op6st 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Yes, I was wondering the same thing. They need to dig up the entire yard and look in the crawlspace.

    • @josiecoote8975
      @josiecoote8975 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's what I thought!

    • @mariekatherine5238
      @mariekatherine5238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I thought the same thing.

  • @zombrero7870
    @zombrero7870 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    12:35 "I think that Mary Jane probably was involved in her father's disappearance but there is no way to know for certain."
    Dig up the hole from hell

  • @itchysheets1222
    @itchysheets1222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    The pastor expressed concerns bc she was coming onto him. They told him not to worry about it.
    I hate when people say not to worry about somebody being inappropriate bc I always worry something like this will happen and in this case it did.

    • @elizabethhamm5320
      @elizabethhamm5320 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Agreed. Churches are welcoming places but he had a right be free from harassment. If there’s one thing that Dr. Grandes videos have taught us it is that obsessions can be dangerous

    • @cynthiamurphy3669
      @cynthiamurphy3669 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One preacher I listened to a few years ago said he NEVER counseled a woman about anything without another woman present, usually his wife. Either a preacher is in charge of his congregation, or he isn't, lol. I don't know exactly how it works with evangelical lutherans, but surely this pastor had some "supervisor" in the church hierarchy he could have talked to first and then brought this woman into the discussion. In fact, the other woman who cheated with married men (if this was church gossip) also needed some "counseling." See I Corinthians 5 KJV, where you can read all about how Paul had to chew out the liberal Corinthian church for not dealing with a fornicater (one who "had his father's wife"). In II Corinthians, Paul did relent after that church and the fornicator had suitably dealt with the situation. Today, I guess somebody is probably going to get sued or shot. Unfortunately.

    • @itchysheets1222
      @itchysheets1222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@elizabethhamm5320 well heck, ma’am.

    • @itchysheets1222
      @itchysheets1222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@elizabethhamm5320 they probably thought he’s a man he just needs to get over it, or she’s just crazy she means no harm, etc etc but I’m telling you, once people are brave enough to approach you sexually even though you’re not comfortable with it or it’s unwarranted then pretty much anything is possible bc they’ve already gone that far in their mind. Makes me sad bc what if that was my dad and he was uncomfortable with some crazy woman and a bunch of people told him to just get over it. Maddening but typical even today.

    • @ZP-xyza
      @ZP-xyza 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Of course it will. People need consequences or they’ll keep going.
      The church is known for downplaying things like this.

  • @shelleyhayton9251
    @shelleyhayton9251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I think there are more ‘unusual’ folk in Church because they’re lonely and looking for friendships - and usually Church people are more accepting of different’ people and those with habits that people ‘out in the world’ wouldn’t tolerate… and none of us are meant to judge x

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most Churches aren't that welcoming to normal people either. Often they just pay lip service to being welcoming. If you are a lonely person trying to make friends....church is a bad place. It should not be. None of my friends is from Church. Many traditional Churches don't practice fellowship at all. Service over....everyone outta here. No coffee in the foyer and chat. No they don't want that.

    • @Kathy-us6zx
      @Kathy-us6zx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You obviously haven’t been to some churches I’ve been to…..it’s a competition with clothing … who can sit in the front rows etc

  • @kangkhita
    @kangkhita 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    The titles kill me every time 😂 "Talkative" lmfaaaooo Dr. Grande's deadpan humour is the best part of his videos.

  • @TheD0m
    @TheD0m 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    "Grand Slam Revenge" This shouldn't have made me laugh so much, but here we are 😂😂😂

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol! I was half expecting to hear Moons Over My Hammy at some point. 🍳

  • @limeallens6160
    @limeallens6160 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    Dating married men = cursed life.

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes but some women think that if a man is married, he must be more attractive, because he has someone. Single guys must be creepy because Noone wants them 😆

    • @carriefawcett9990
      @carriefawcett9990 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because its true unfortunately. Ive dated married men because i dont want a live-in relationship and all the tie down that goes with it. The single men in my town are single because they're creepy, and immature ​@@Dilley_G45

  • @productioninquiries881
    @productioninquiries881 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "She talked to them for 4 hrs, mostly about topics unrelated to Rhonda Smith's murder. The officers couldn't get a word in edgewise." That's right Mary Jane, distract and evade.

  • @ceilconstante640
    @ceilconstante640 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The kind of person i avoid, step carefully around and pay attention to any cues of jealousy or vindictiveness towards me. In which case it would be better to go to a different church. Some scary people out there.

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Scary people at church.
      Try the workplace.
      There should be a whole channel for that subject.

    • @ceilconstante640
      @ceilconstante640 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bluecollarlit in many cases yes. I lived 40 minutes north where I am now and attended 2 small country churches where the Pastors knew everyone and arranged activities among the members and everyone supported each other. If someone needs help, people pitched in. Obnoxious people didn't want to stay. The other church was really tiny and unpretentious.
      I think it's important to go to a church where people get to know each other and function like family and has a Pastor that will confront bad behavior.

  • @janefrost1856
    @janefrost1856 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    I really don't know how Dr Grande does this without bursting into fits of giggles, he's definitely practised the art of keeping a straight face

    • @terrellevans2763
      @terrellevans2763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I'm not sure of his background, but if he has a clinical background, clinicians often have great poker faces

    • @sharonhoyt2133
      @sharonhoyt2133 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      He does burst out laughing but edits it out. On very rare occasions he will add the "bloopers" onto the end of a video.

    • @Baysidemom2
      @Baysidemom2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      he's a licensed therapist... I'm not sure if he ever had a practice or he's just taught and researched but if he actively counselled patients he's probably heard some shit

    • @AnastasiaFafo
      @AnastasiaFafo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I laugh so hard at the most inappropriate times 😅

    • @ThePrufessa
      @ThePrufessa 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's called dead pan humor. See: Adam Corolla

  • @toolegittoquit_001
    @toolegittoquit_001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    What are the odds of retrieivng a murder weapon from a lake ?? 😳

    • @jessieyork4508
      @jessieyork4508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Kid needs to pick some lottery numbers for his Dad.

    • @Vonononie
      @Vonononie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Ive seen magnetic fishing on TH-cam and those guys pull up lots of weapons and ammunition. They have to call the police out and sometimes bomb squads. I had no idea this was a hobby!

    • @REDVETTExxx
      @REDVETTExxx 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Vonononiegoggling now. Sounds like a treasure hunt!😂😂

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    13:33 _"...[prison] couldn't make the heart grow Fonder, but it could make the Fonder grow a heart."_
    I live for the wordplay.

  • @tracyking5945
    @tracyking5945 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    I worry about how many Dr. Grande videos I’ve been watching lately. How he works so tirelessly without being tiring I will never know. Dr. Grande, I’m thankful you are a good addiction.

    • @rileyanderson7379
      @rileyanderson7379 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Crystal meth

    • @motionoftheocean7524
      @motionoftheocean7524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hehehehehehahahahahhahaahhehehehhehehehehhehehehehhahhahahahahahahahehehehhehe....😅😅😅😅😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😂​@@rileyanderson7379

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@rileyanderson7379I truly, highly doubt that idea.

    • @traybern
      @traybern 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Staff.

  • @aes0p895
    @aes0p895 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    "Jane Fonder" sounds like a mid 2000s rapper reading a mid-80s workout VHS title.

    • @LimoneneDaddy
      @LimoneneDaddy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lol!!!!

    • @lizbensoncox
      @lizbensoncox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I remember that VHS. It was a nice workout! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Dilley_G45
      @Dilley_G45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@lizbensoncoxyup, never ever found out what she said. Never had the sound on

    • @loum73
      @loum73 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But Fonder ain't got a motor in the back of her Honder...

  • @tinak6484
    @tinak6484 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Okay, the “heart growing fonder” joke was outstanding!!😂😂😂

  • @enjoystraveling
    @enjoystraveling 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    She did move from her city to help her parents when they were older. I really believe there should be more help for caretakers not just physical, but definitely emotional, etc..
    If her father and her were arguing, it, of course doesn’t dismiss doing away with him if that’s even what happened, but if you’re the only caretaker for someone who’s elderly, it’s very easy to get burned out and definitely the United States needs more support for caretakers even just emotional

    • @SomethingSomethingg
      @SomethingSomethingg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention the fact that it's quite obvious just from her behavior that Mary Jane suffered from a form of autism as well.

  • @TNtime865
    @TNtime865 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    These people live among us.

    • @lisbethbird8268
      @lisbethbird8268 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know someone almost exactly like her. Even down to the cluster b mix. I broke off all contact because of the talking. I'm pretty sure it was a psychotic symptom (pressured, tangential, disorganized speech) but it was enough to drive *me* to trauma response. No exaggeration. She could not stop or control it, but with her it seemed more episodic. Obnoxious, intrusive, attention seeking, aggressive, vindictive, competitive, yep all of the above. Glad she's on the opposite coast from me. She phone stalked me with breather calls and hang-ups for about a year.

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sounds scary.

    • @lisbethbird8268
      @lisbethbird8268 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was, but the scariest part was the inability? refusal? to have any insight. Zero.@@KaarinaKimdaly

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    Thank you Dr Grande for providing us with YEARS of great content. It's very much appreciated. 🙏🙏🙏

    • @gregevans6044
      @gregevans6044 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nicely put. Yeah, thank you, Doc. You’ve become the one constant in my life. I don’t know if I’ve missed an episode of your channel in a couple of years.

  • @tamedshrew235
    @tamedshrew235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Doctor of Psychology, Master of the Pun

  • @JinJinDoe
    @JinJinDoe 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Was the 'sacred space' investigated for her father's corpse?

  • @NvrDieNvrSurrender
    @NvrDieNvrSurrender 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Stalkers are no joke! They are not only detrimental to the safety & well-being of their victims, but they really are deranged & dangerous. To me stalkers really are best defined as, it's only a matter of time before something bad happens...

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      They are very scary and I've unfortunately had a lot in my life. When I was homeless I would be stalked all around town, no matter where I went. It was shocking to me everytime I realized the same man was following me for weeks at a time, everywhere I went. I was thinking they were plotting to kidnap me. So then I would switch towns and pick up new stalkers. It's a dangerous world.
      But I trust in the Lord and I believe the Lord is the only reason non of them actually did kidnap me despite all the close calls I've had. Like having to sleep in front of a gas station under the cameras in fear of those men trying to harm me. Thankfully the cashier's agreed to me sleeping there after explaining to them my situation.

    • @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513
      @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Also, people who are severely jealous out of the blue!! Let us all please be on guard and protect yourself against snap jealous ppl. Do not IGNORE the mean things others do to people.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She wasn't really a stalker though. She was just mental.

    • @dontworryaboutit4255
      @dontworryaboutit4255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 This is very true! When I first became homeless it was because my cousin's and their cult friends drugged me and I left before anything could happen to me and I got a DUI. I was in jail and lost everything I owned including my house, car and my job. Then I became homeless and was still around them because I forgave them. They are my family and I had nowhere else to go. My mom passed away and my dad wasn't stable and is an alcoholic. So if I wasn't doing it for myself then nobody else would.
      Well they tried to kill me 3 other times and the last time I was beat over the head with a metal baseball bat and drowned in the creek. I would have died but woke up under water while my cousin was holding my head under the water and then her boyfriend pulled me out of the water and told them to leave me alone.
      So I survived multiple attempts at my life due to 3 jealous women and their jealous friends. It's been 6 years and I plan on never talking to them or giving them any of my time ever again.

    • @spinetingler-op6st
      @spinetingler-op6st 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stalkers are now using Apple Tags to track their victims. This has become a huge problem.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I live near Springfield . I still wonder what happened to her Father!

    • @ZP-xyza
      @ZP-xyza 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I’m wondering why they didn’t check out the “hole from hell”.. surely they know where that house is.

  • @mbb--
    @mbb-- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I just bought a true crime book about this case yesterday, and this video pops up in my feed! So weird!

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What's the name of the book?

    • @mbb--
      @mbb-- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jkjives1786 Love Me or Else by Colin McEvoy and Lynn Olanoff

    • @mbb--
      @mbb-- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jkjives1786 I think YT is shadowbanning the book title for some reason. Title: Love / Me/ Or /Else. Authors: Colin McEvoy and Lynn Olanoff

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mbb-- Thanks! I have had certain comments disappear for no good reason, even when I've posted them repeatedly.

  • @itchiefeetadventures
    @itchiefeetadventures 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    *OMG! RIGHT-ON YES!* This is one of my ALL-TIME Top 5 FAVORITE *"True Crime's"* stories! Thanks Dr Grande.
    Another MUST-DO one is the Military Medal of Honor Imposter who tried to *"UNALIVE"* His Wife several times before being arrested & sent to jail. Only to have the state of California make Her pay Him Alimony when She divorced Him! Ugh, The Gull! Thankfully, She was able to lobby the legislature & get the laws changed in the state.
    Great Story! 😉👍❤

  • @kayzbluegenes
    @kayzbluegenes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    @6:54 "Sorry, Mary Jane; the congregation is just fonder of Rhonda." 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oooo, that's a sadistic groaner.

  • @elizabethhamm5320
    @elizabethhamm5320 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    It’s my birthday today and I’m spending part of it enjoying your videos. I agree that having to listen to Mary Jane talk non stop should be classified as cruel and unusual punishment 😂. I definitely wouldn’t want to be her cell mate. She even creeped out hardened investigators.

  • @paul9156c
    @paul9156c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I heard "church" and knew immediately it would be crazy.

    • @Celisar1
      @Celisar1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There are crazy people everywhere.
      Why should a church be the exception?!

    • @toddswarthout6064
      @toddswarthout6064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edgy.

  • @aussiejewels
    @aussiejewels 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "The (Denny's) Grand Slam Revenge," cracked me up!...:-)

    • @adriel7229
      @adriel7229 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's the one that got me, too!

  • @oNeGiAnTLiE
    @oNeGiAnTLiE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “ The murder part”. Always well timed!

  • @nickid5210
    @nickid5210 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I am never ready for your play on words😂... But I always look forward to your analysis. Thanks, Dr. G.👍🏼😊

  • @nolaparker9574
    @nolaparker9574 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I knew someone just like this. They cause so much trouble for you when you are just being nice.

  • @fredthejunkman
    @fredthejunkman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Dr. G., your puns are killin' me.

  • @sweeabn6736
    @sweeabn6736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When I was a Pastor in south Louisiana, there were people like this.

    • @StAlphonsusHasAPosse
      @StAlphonsusHasAPosse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's probably at least one in every congregation

  • @juancarlosmontes
    @juancarlosmontes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You're fun to listen to. Your jokes were wildly entertaining today! I would never hear the news stories because I intentionally avoid it all. You make them more than merely tolerable; you make them enjoyable. You and your wife have a blessed evening.

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I remember this case. She was very mentally ill, so many church goers are anything but moral. Great points again. Thanks Dr G😊💞💞

  • @WoodyWard
    @WoodyWard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Thanks for sharing your eloquent speculation on this fascinating case, Dr. 👍

  • @mario-qi3yw
    @mario-qi3yw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you Dr Grande for reviewing this case. You can always make me laugh. The police couldn’t get a word in edgewise.😂😂😂😂

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I laughed, too,
      at that phrase.
      Todd Grande seems to not have a very high opinion of police, or at least of their interrogation style.
      I think it is always unwise to overgeneralize.

  • @romanhollow2985
    @romanhollow2985 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Unfortunately, these kooks are all around us.

  • @Sotweetie
    @Sotweetie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I don't think I have ever watched a Dr. Grande video without laughing out loud at least once. The stories are messed up but he has the best dry humor.

  • @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
    @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Oh this case was crazy

  • @claire-christmas-august73
    @claire-christmas-august73 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    constantly learning
    from afar..
    another story
    i’m not familiar with.
    appreciate the delicate nature you show each case
    and your insight.!
    ☺️😊😃
    ~claire~
    brisbane
    queensland
    ✌🏻🇦🇺🌏🤘🏻

  • @cherylcalogero3330
    @cherylcalogero3330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Dr Grande....aka...Dr Cactus.! Sent with good cheer. 😉😘

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If Roger Hargreaves was still on earth, he could write a brief bio,
      entitling it Mr. Prickletickle and make the character cactus-shaped and mustachioed. . .

    • @hannahmitchell87
      @hannahmitchell87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I suppose he is dry & prickly

  • @AshleyNord
    @AshleyNord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dr Grande, HOW on earth did you manage to keep a straight face at 13:39 😂😂😂
    Absolutely brilliant. Thank you for the morning belly laugh.

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd like to see outtakes!

    • @AshleyNord
      @AshleyNord 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@annika_panicka me too! In some of his older content he used to sometimes put them at the end, they were hilarious 😂

    • @annika_panicka
      @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AshleyNord Lol! Thanks - I'll have to check them out. For some reason I haven't ventured into the back catalog yet. It's amazing how well he maintains a straight face in the current-ish ones. Occasionally there's a glint of a smirk (but not a smug one), but his deadpan delivery is so dry. He must enjoy himself coming up with the references to [I forget which story this is] Denny's, Billy Joel songs, etc. And the puns in the thumbnails are award-worthy!
      On a slight tangent, the tone of the delivery and the spiel of the intro and outro are so consistent from video to video you would think he's editing it in but he records it anew each time as evidenced by his shirts-that's hard to do! Maybe he's lip-syncing. 😉 Paging RuPaul...🏁

    • @sarahjaye4117
      @sarahjaye4117 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@annika_panickaI thought he had one at the end of that rude lady judge who got busted texting in the courtroom 🤔

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This is an intriguing case of jealousy, delusion and hatred.
    Thank you for the review, Dr. Grande.❤

  • @Azelia834Heather
    @Azelia834Heather 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Thank you for another interesting true crime story.
    I believe Mary-Jane murdered her father. If her father had gone off to live else where he would have still needed and wanted his pension.
    Poor Rhonda 😢

    • @peggypeggy4137
      @peggypeggy4137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think you are right. 60,000 is a lot of money to steal and she was broke. I think they would have found him. An 80 something man doesn't just go missing without a trace.

  • @Simonisms
    @Simonisms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The golfing gags made me chuckle 😅

  • @briskettacos
    @briskettacos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When you see a Mary Jane in the making, what do you do? How can you help them?

  • @Taco_Raider
    @Taco_Raider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Interesting case to cover. Thanks, Doc!

  • @TeaBooksandYoga
    @TeaBooksandYoga 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Dr. Grande is THE Best! 🤩

  • @neopachisia4563
    @neopachisia4563 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually laugh aloud everytime I listen to you.. very therapeutic you are Dr.. 😂

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think I've seen bumper stickers that say I'M NOT FONDER MARY JANE on cars from the 1970s.

  • @mattlassen5948
    @mattlassen5948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dr. Grande, that was an extremely concise, accurate, and entertaining evaluation of this case. You offered so many more details in less than 15 minutes than what probably amounts to at least 2 hours worth of videos from other sources that I've watched about this case in the past. Great job, per usual!

  • @m.f.richardson1602
    @m.f.richardson1602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I remember this story.
    Mental illness at it finest
    Thank you❤

  • @nonofyabidnez5737
    @nonofyabidnez5737 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The jokes just keep coming. Great work Dr. Grande!

  • @mandyjandliljasmr411
    @mandyjandliljasmr411 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Have you covered the case of the St. Louis police officers who played a deadly game of Russian roulette, killing one of them? It would be interesting to hear your take on the case. Nathaniel Hendren and Katlyn Alix

  • @nancyjensen6409
    @nancyjensen6409 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I enjoy your videos so very much. You outdid yourself with Denny’s grande slam! I especially enjoyed your references to golf ⛳️ as well. Please take care of yourself. 🎉❤

    • @jkjives1786
      @jkjives1786 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I almost spit out my drink at the Grand Slam comment!

  • @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
    @ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    She was bold for contacting Rhonda parents after her death

    • @sondragramse1770
      @sondragramse1770 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think she asked for Rhondas shoes. I saw it on Forensic Files or one of them.

    • @TheFJ61
      @TheFJ61 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Deadly Women also did an episode on this story. Fonder was a strange unfulfilled person. Sad all around.

  • @phylliswurm9473
    @phylliswurm9473 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good video. It was also said that her hair appt was actually an appt to get her wig styled. This also helped investigators with time line of opportunity.

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Dr. G is the most consistent TH-camr who doesn’t simply repost other’s content but makes fresh, quality content on the regular. I always look forward to hearing him speculate on these bad people.

  • @susanmann5286
    @susanmann5286 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Par for the course..." LOL!

  • @bthomson
    @bthomson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just found out how helpful the playlist is! It divides the many many many videos into easy to search categories! So great!

  • @bonniedeaves422
    @bonniedeaves422 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yaassss i always love a low key reference to 'the murder part' - Love you guys in the podcast, interesting topics, great comraderie and intelligent banter will always be a winner! Oh and those tangents!!

  • @morgueann12
    @morgueann12 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow, I'm from the Allentown, PA area, which is ~45min from Quakertown. Very interesting case.

  • @Swansong321
    @Swansong321 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Interesting title..I'm intrigued!🤔

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Dr. Grande, good afternoon from Southern California.
    This is a really creepy case. Mary Jane was exactly where she belonged. Though I feel sorry for her inmates. I also feel sorry for everyone at Evangelical Lutheran Church who had anything to do with Mary Jane.
    As always I learn something new from your videos.

  • @user-xu8su1xq3e
    @user-xu8su1xq3e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sir , you have surpassed yourself today ! Re the Fonda growing a heart comment !
    Really appreciate your humour but also your understanding of the human psyche .
    Greetings from New Zealand : )

  • @ashleyparks1738
    @ashleyparks1738 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Freak- there's 1 like her in every church

    • @shelleyhayton9251
      @shelleyhayton9251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think it’s because they’re lonely and looking for friendships - and usually Church people are more accepting of different’ people and those with habits that people ‘out in the world’ wouldn’t tolerate…

  • @enjoynature5261
    @enjoynature5261 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    Mary Jane needed to smoke some Mary Jane

    • @Danko31
      @Danko31 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think she might prefer meth by the looks of it

    • @gretchenhughes9652
      @gretchenhughes9652 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      😂😂😂

    • @PalestinianAmerican
      @PalestinianAmerican 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah. She's not a loser

    • @KaarinaKimdaly
      @KaarinaKimdaly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SORRY, but marijuana is a bane to society and not a benefit, and ditto for other psychoactive drugs, including other drugs like ethyl alcohol and the Big Pharm promoted to the public ones.
      For the most part they are pastiche
      treatments for symptoms alone.

    • @charliechurch5004
      @charliechurch5004 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@PalestinianAmericanyep

  • @Dulcimertunes
    @Dulcimertunes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I’m surprised the church didn’t fire the secretary for immoral behavior

    • @albertafarmer8638
      @albertafarmer8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I couldn't agree more with you!

    • @glendasully
      @glendasully 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Too many "elders" were closely associated with her.

    • @albertafarmer8638
      @albertafarmer8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@glendasully How do you know?

  • @andrewl1024
    @andrewl1024 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Dr. Grande. I had requested this analysis because I knew Ms. Smith's brother during this horrible time. I'm very glad you were able to help share it with the world.

  • @shelleyhayton9251
    @shelleyhayton9251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think there’s a few different people inside Mary Jane!!!

  • @dirtypatwalsh
    @dirtypatwalsh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr G. Is the best analyser ever💯💯💯✨✨✨😎👍✨✨✨

  • @nancyk3615
    @nancyk3615 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sounds like the character on Misery. I love your dry humor.

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is such an interesting and informative video, Dr. Grande. ❤ We look forward to hearing from you every day.❤ Your expertise is appreciated.❤

  • @Ruby-wise
    @Ruby-wise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yes…the nightmares,,just may be..“ mainly because of the murder part.” 🤭

  • @albertafarmer8638
    @albertafarmer8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    A golf business professional .... This pastor or "pastor" should have fired the secretary when they found out that she dated married men and also obtained a restraining order against the stalker!

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It's part of a pastor's job to be accepting. The cheater woman was getting better. Apparently you're unaware of the biblical story about men about to stone an adulteress to death. Look it up. It'll give you a glimpse into Christianity.

    • @albertafarmer8638
      @albertafarmer8638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alukuhito Hi, I know the Bible quite well. Now you read 1 Cor. 5, read the whole Chapter.

    • @alukuhito
      @alukuhito 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@albertafarmer8638 No.

  • @SnipeSpine
    @SnipeSpine 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nobody noticed my man dropping bars from 2:55 to 3:07. The amount of sports puns there didn’t go unnoticed.

  • @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513
    @kmanebonywoodskinsouthernu4513 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is a very VERY great one! I know some ppl in their 70s starting to creep me the freak out acting like this lady...
    Thank you big time Dr Grande!

    • @kathyharmon2093
      @kathyharmon2093 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She had mental issues long before her 70’s, he stated she had a breakdown at age 8

    • @geraldinenolan6312
      @geraldinenolan6312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@kathyharmon2093 I agree. And I know getting older just means you stop 'hiding' your real personality. Hence me living my best life now!

    • @hannahmitchell87
      @hannahmitchell87 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      behavioural & emotional changes can be a symptom of dementia or Alzheimers. Please look out for these people if you can

  • @DodgyDebb
    @DodgyDebb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Gosh I do feel sorry for her. If she’d gotten the correct care, she might not have become a killer. Sad case all around.

    • @kathyharmon2093
      @kathyharmon2093 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And what would the correct care be?

    • @DodgyDebb
      @DodgyDebb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Help from mental health professionals.

    • @gabrielleandrew542
      @gabrielleandrew542 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kathyharmon2093agree … just wondering … very difficult to treat such people … particularly when they don’t seek treatment

  • @annika_panicka
    @annika_panicka 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:20 _"... delivering a Grand Slam revenge"_ 🍳 Nobody can drop a reference as subtly as deadpan Dr. Grande. As soon as Denny's was mentioned, I wondered how he'd manage to work Moons Over My Hammy into the video. It was the only signature dish that came to mind, but not even the master himself could make it sound relevant. He wouldn't want to be disrespectful or jeopardize his professional credibility.

  • @Kell-ic7yn
    @Kell-ic7yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another great show Dr. Todd. I enjoy watching all your video's. Love how they are not hour's long.

  • @psalmsreader7997
    @psalmsreader7997 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great analysis of MJ Fonder's mental illness. It just shows how seemingly harmless individuals can be super dangerous.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good afternoon,Dr. Grande! I hope you're enjoying your day! Thank You!

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dr. Grande, I love your sense of humor!😂😂

  • @dex1lsp
    @dex1lsp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your Trenton accent (which is, of course, adjacent to the Philly/Bucks Co. accent) is perfect for this one.

  • @hejnye
    @hejnye 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the puns flowed with this analysis, oh wait, just opinion, thanks Dr. Grande

  • @valleygirl2530
    @valleygirl2530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You made us wait till the end to work “Fonder” into your analysis.

  • @Mike_S_68
    @Mike_S_68 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @11:32 that’s where I got really sad.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I read a book about this Case. Thank You for covering it!

  • @Christanstonir
    @Christanstonir 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a case where it is certainly easier for me to understand an insanity defense.

  • @edwardwright2989
    @edwardwright2989 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    She was a kook.

  • @lindsayb7811
    @lindsayb7811 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not the Grand Slam Revenge for $7.99 😂

  • @mydailyangel
    @mydailyangel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ...but sometimes makes the fonder grow a heart.. wa wa wa waaaahhhhh....

  • @wendiwonderly1419
    @wendiwonderly1419 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Her behavior may have stabilized in prison because she was given structure and mental health treatment. Just a guess. It’s so unfortunate that the same treatment may have been available before Mary Jane killed anyone but she lacked the insight to cooperate. FYI Allentown is right up on the corner from my house in Bethlehem. Quakertown is 20 miles south, on the way to Philadelphia. And Springfield Township is on the way to doylestown

  • @LoandaterBruggen-pm4de
    @LoandaterBruggen-pm4de 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always look forward to your videos. Your delivery of the cases is fascinating and riveting, but lightened with that touch of dry TG humour. We live in Jeffreys Bay, South Africa and we have extremely high crime rates, throughout the country, so a little light-heartedness around it is a useful tool to get by the tragedy 🌈

  • @johnl5350
    @johnl5350 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "Don't worry about it"
    -the initial response of every church scandal/crime ever.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We appreciate your insights, Dr Grande. Keep working hard as always.