Man Fighting with Pro-Deer Neighbors Accidentally Fires Shotgun Four Times | Neal Zumberge Analysis
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1 minute in and I'm already speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this.
@@KaraLey98 ... or perhaps just a theory ?
@@KaraLey98Decline drinks, deter deer feeding; dodge disturbing dwellers nearby.
One minute in and I am speculating about whether or not Paula has the biggest forehead I've ever seen on a person.
@@BohoAstronautShe is part of the Snapper family.
@@BohoAstronaut I think she does, but of course that's just my opinion.
It's hard to overestimate the amount of influence your neighbors have over the quality of your life. I'll never understand the people who go out of their way to irritate their neighbors.
Bored
Lot's of people have mental issues.
Same. We have a saying here "Tall fences make great neighbors."
Our neighbors accuse us of intentionally stirring up their dogs coz we have to walk past their house when we walk down the road our house is on. I mean how dare we. Their dog came onto our property and killed our chickens and that was our fault too.
Some neighbours really suck!
The two M's of neighborhood life: meth and mental illness.
Accidentally fired a shotgun four times? Sure, and I accidentally watched, liked, shared, and commented on this video.
Woops me too
"Accidental loud noises cause twitching and further accidents, it's science" - A criminal lawyer remembering it just takes on juror.
Neil did cure Todd of alcoholism. That should count for something.
He deerailed the habit.@@adotintheshark4848
He had a neurologically twitchy finger like mine!
Say now, I should have been his liar.....I Mean Lawyer😁
I'm just here for the puns and alliterations at this point 😂
Oh, Deer God... no!
who's riding shotgun ?
Deerly departed....
You left out one detail in this case. With the restraining order in place, both parties were required to surrender all weapons. Neil claimed to have no weapons. He claimed he "forgot" about his shotgun
Excellent point!
🙂
*Neal
Oh deer, I guess he was really ticked off. Thanks Dr. Grande.
Hee haw
Is that the best picture we could get of his wife Paula? The one with the Band-Aid right in the middle of her forehead?😂
😂
Would you prefer the ones with Band-Aids?
I meant “multiple” Band-AIDS.
My dad said people with bad tempers shouldn’t have guns, so we didn’t ever have guns in the house. I don’t have one now either. More people should take that advice.
Unfortunately, I know alcoholics with terrrible tempers who have guns and a neighbor with serious mental health issues has guns. I was told it's the 2nd amendment right.
Do you have a bad temper?
people who abuse alcohol shouldn't have them either..
@@jeffrey501green yep.
‘Temper is a weapon that we hold by the blade’
This is why I live away from others.
Even that doesn't help. You've got some crazy paranoid people in the sticks. Your friends make one wrong turn down the wrong driveway and you'll have some idiot firing his boomer grandpa shotgun in the air as a warning shot.
I’m getting that way too…….folk just want aggro. If you look at the entitlement attitude of modern day folk, you cry in despair for the future of society, the world.
@@swamp1138100%. I’m from the sticks of NC and that sounds about right. II now live in a small city on a street filled with people and I actually prefer it here.
@@swamp1138 So true! I moved to a rural area to get away from people, but it's even worse out here. People hunting and camping on my land without permission...people dumping on my land....paranoid townsfolk who believe all kinds of nutty conspiracy theories....everyone knows everyone elses business and even when they don't they make shit up and gossip. Sigh.
@@swamp1138 Yes but the shooter wasn't the one going around threatening to kill everyone who disagreed with him, or feeding deer in a neighborhood which is a stupid thing to do.
I live in Michigan with has a huge deer hunting season innNovember. It amazes me how ANYONE could “accidentally” fire a shot-gun 4 times. They’re loud, with a decent recoil.
I used to work at s Denny’s as a waiter. I showed up at 1 am on November 15 “opening day for rifle dear season. The manager had let her slip her mind and thanked
Me. I got a bite to eat and started at 1;30 when hunters start showing up. I made over $350 in about 5 hours. It was a constant rush.
Bunch of red neck ..or hill billy state ..wouldn't never live there ....
These neighbor confrontations can be deadly, obviously. Reminds me of the "snow shoveling incident" which happened in Pennsylvania a couple years ago. You'd think people try to be civil and friendly with neighbors. After all, they're your neighbor. Things can turn nasty quick if you let it.
part of the situation is that being neighbors there can be a constant sense of irritation.
I kept getting confused about who was the bad guy, turns out they both are
The maniac with the shotgun is the bad guy.
That's usually the case...
Also it is against the law to kill deer out of season.
And let’s not forget, let’s not forget dude, that keeping wildlife… amphibious rodent , for uh, ya know domestic… within the city… that ain’t legal either
@@bartholomewesperanza3442theyre not domestic.
Wild animals dont follow laws
@@bartholomewesperanza3442Most towns have ordinances against firearms being fired within city limits. There are multiple ways to eradicate animals without using deadly weapons.
Accidentally? 4 times? That's something I've got my doubts about.
Wonder if he said oh deer afterwards 🦌
I’m so sorry but the “Deer-ly Departed” comment has me laughing too hard! Hehehe
Dr. Grande is always so neutral while describing all the details of the crime. Dear deer
"...begged for dear life."😂 Dr. G, your puns kill me.
I’m not shocked it ended up this way after the police came 44 times
Neal looks like Clint Eastwood in a funhouse mirror.
It would appear that there is no limit to human pettiness (and I'm sure deer are much nicer). Thanks, as always, Dr. Grande!
Did you hear about the lawn tractor salesman whose wife left him for another man?
She left him a John Deer letter
Dumb and Dumber?
How dare she do that to Mr Deer. I hope the divorce wasn't dear.
She had been plowed so was no longer deer to him.
That’s a proper dad joke. 😁
I wonder how often farm equipment salesmen tell this joke to their customers ? ... Oh, wait, don't want lose a sale.
Let's take a moment to remember the deerly departed and his deer wife.
oh deer
they sure weren't endeering to their nieghbors.
I Doe know what to say.
We need to buck this trend of deer puns.
Stag-gerringly funny comment!
I love your videos. I would love to see a story about 2 attorneys named The Grimeses murdered by their neighbor in Carmel Valley Ca. all about a rock. I live really close to the location and know a lot of info on the story.
No one "accidentally" fires a shotgun four times!!!
Right 😂
If it was an accident, perhaps he said oh deer afterwards 🦌😂
This reminded me of the line, "He ran into my knife. He ran into my knife 10 times." 😂 There's a reason they put this in "He Had it Coming" from Chicago the musical. Because it's laughable, people think that we are stupid or gullible and will believe them. 😂
I love that musical.
Idk man this guy just did
Neil raises some good points about inviting deer into the neighborhood, tbh.
It's difficult to keep deer out , even if you aren't feeding them. I live within view of my city's skyline, in a heavily treed area between three major highways. We see deer almost daily.
We appreciate your insights, Dr. Grande. You’ll always have our support.
I would love to see a video about the life and mental health of Sylvia Plath.
Thanks for the great content, I’m learning a lot!
Read "The Bell Jar." Then read "Ariel." Maybe a biography. No DSM-speak required. This is just a suggestion, my opinion.... 😉
@@awarewolves1712 What is DSM? Thanks.
@@colleenv.9540 "The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders." It's the volume of reference for Clinical Psychologists, Behavioral Therapists, and Psychiatrists, (meaning med-shrinks not dad-shrinks, i.e. not Psychoanalysis which is currently frowned upon, as a method of psychological treatment at least). The DSM helps assign a label describing what KIND of crazy a crazy person is. And everybody's crazy, excepting the authors and advisory board of the DSM.
My neighbor is a duck-hater.
I stopped feeding the ducks.
I have not been shot.
Yep 😎 i expect jennifer prefers life without her abusive bf tho so i doubt she has any regrets 💀
Does your neighbor also tell you when to eat breakfast and go to bed?
I think if Neal would have tried to bribe the Park Rangers with plenty of Doe they would have relented.
instead he passed the buck.
he aint riding shotgun to the jail, thats for sure
DOH
The subtle ways the good doctor throws funny remarks in is priceless. Great delivery too!
I used to have a neighbor who hated that we fed deer. In particular, we were rehabilitating some very badly injured deer. The neighbor called the cops on us. Every time he saw the deer in our yard. Sometimes it would be three in the morning and every single time, the cop said it’s their property and they can do what they want. The neighbor made us miserable, until he finally gave up. We were extremely afraid of him, but the deer were rehabilitated and moved on. However, he was on our ass about them until we moved for other reasons.
That’s a terrible story. I’m sorry you had to go thru that. I hope you’re in a better place now with nice neighbours. Well done for helping the deer.
I love that I live in Ohio. We have common sense laws that if you tried that as my neighbor I could and would put the deer down and call the law on YOU for messing with wild populations you make me sick
@@grandamishwizard1584you sound like a psychopath.
I value a deers life more than i would value yours.
@@grandamishwizard1584😮
Another stellar summary of a very serious situation, Dr. Grande.
Thanks for your interesting illuminative insights.
✌🏻💜😇
The analysis of Neal, that he attached to the deer event as a touchstone of his grievance, sounds right to me.
It seems like the deer feeder is something that would be placed in the back yard and not the front yard which is where the street is and where the baby deer will end up becoming vehicle adjacent
Deer walk the streets and driveways in my neighborhood daily. They don't differentiate pavement from lawns.😂😂
You don't "accidentally fire" a shotgun four times, not even a semi-automatic one.
Feeding deer near people is kinda bad for many reasons
yes, and mutilating animals is worse!!
Neither one of these maniacs should have been gun owners
Delightful Dr. G! Always an interesting story with your ✨✨✨analysis! Love it man.
You are seriously dear to my heart Dr. Grande
I have lived next to a crazy hateful invasive violent neighbor for years and years. It is no fun at all, but it takes money and good health to move away
Have you tried being friendly and perhaps making a friend of this neighbor? I have found that "crazy hateful invasive violent" can shift once your own perspective does. It's always best to be friendly and civil to your neighbors, no matter what.
@@SirenaSpades yeah and if women wouldnt wear mini skirts, they wouldnt get raped
Sad case over deer. I'm convinced 95% of gun owners don't have the emotional capacity to use a firearm. His story is bs. Great analysis again. Thanks Dr G😊💜❤
Well you're a democrat for sure.
Dear life lol I've fed deer for years, and not once did I think about ticks, although my mother is obsessed with them. It's best to be civil with your neighbors.
@SirenaSpades•same here but I have gotten Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever 2 times in last few years. 1 time undiagnosed until too late. Please use tick prevention. This really wrecks havoc on your body. But the tick didn’t jump off a deer to me🤣it probably came off a tree or bush I was walking on or near.✌️💕
Double Grande Day, will it be a Triple?
You're correct. Dr. Grande,innocence, imminence, proportionality, reasonableness, and avoidance are the five determinations for the use of deadly force in Minnesota, which is not a stand your ground state.
The puns 😂 You made my day again!
deer ticks and lyme disease is a valid concern
Plus car wrecks and property damage. Deer are like large rats - nasty and dangerous.
Not really. If you have some kind of phobia, you can spray your yard. But you can't keep wildlife out. Even if somehow try and prevent your neighbor from having gainful enjoyment from their own property, wildlife can still be in the vacinity.
Then move to the city.
@@derkeheath5172no.
Rats are actually quite clean.
Deer exist, and have every right to be where they've lived for thousands of years.
If you dont like deer, move to an apartment in the city.
2 points. we should not feed wild animals and yes, deer carry deer ticks and will bring a very real threat of lyme disease. Lyme is very common and serious disease that can cripple and cause death...so I can see how this neighborhood feud is escalating by careless and insensitive attitudes. 4 people in my family were stricken by lyme...
people are ignorant af.
Yes and those ticks can carry other terrible diseases as well. Sadly, mice are also big carriers of ticks. Whenever we have a fox family move into the neighborhood for a few months the number of ticks we find goes way down. 3 cheers for foxes! And surprisingly opossums eat lots of ticks!
@user-fc1gq5xd9e• 0:05 I’m very curious as to just how close your family gets to these wild animals? Four family members infected? I’m not being ugly, just pointing out that maybe outdoor type groups should be more attentive to how they are dressed and prepared with preventative tick and insect repellents, or 0:05 maybe look closer to home. This does come from someone diagnosed but untreated in time with RMSF (during high Covid lab activity) . Ticks can tend hang around on trees, grasses, living things or inanimate. I’ve seen people dress and eat deer covered in ticks. Just made me nauseous. Prevention is all important. Domestic or wildlife . ✌️💕
thank you for your thought-provoking analysis. I really enjoy your videos. 🙂
"It was not a topic they found deer to them..." 😂😂😂😂 Amazing as always.
This whole situation feels like a fever dream way too surreal
Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video; only speculating about threats to people and ungulates like this.
Neal is a menace to say the least
I live near that part of town. Thanks for your interesting, funny analysis in your videos. I'm a regular watcher
Hatfields & McCoys.
Your alliterative conclusions undermine your thoughtful analysis - which is what we tune in for.
Just sayin’ but if you want to attract large animals, you should move to the countryside and buy a large parcel of land.
I kinda agree with the Lyme disease reason for not attracting deer to the neighborhood. The lady and her husband should’ve been sensitive to the health of their neighbors.
Before anyone jumps in and says the reaction of the neighbor was unjustified. I agree with you.
Hi! Indeed, the country is full of wildlife. My dear Mom came face to face (almost nose to nose!) with a large black bear that was napping under our deck over the summer. He grunted at her and she slowly backed away and ran into the house.
Having spent a large part of my life in rural areas, and not hearing much at all about Lyme disease cases, I really don’t worry about it. We just check ourselves carefully for any ticks. But for people who maybe aren’t comfortable around wildlife, I can understand why they’d feel the way they do about it.
Take care!
I agree. If you want to feed the deer move out into the country. The suburbs are not the place for it.
If you dont want deer in your yard move to the city.
The deer were there first anyways.
@@k.o.h3599My city, like thousands of others, are already full of deer. Growth destroys their natural habitat.
seems like alcohol is always the problem
don't you mean guns?
Both guns and alcohol, a bad mix.
His buddy Stevens just yelling ouch is heartbreaking.
There are no proven records of wolves ever attacking a human. Wolves avoid people,
Wolves aren't particularly interested in NJ, anyway.
And wolves will not move into a suburb of Minneapolis.
We have a *major* deer problem here in Youngstown Ohio because our deer population in our large metro park is way out of control. The deer are out of the park and living in the neighborhoods (I see them in my yard regularly and they eat my hosta) because they have no predators here. I *wish* some wolves or coyotes would move in but they won't, that's why we have this problem.
@@tanikokishimoto1604 .😅
@@adriel7229We had that same problem when I used to live in Lakeway, Texas. They probably still have it there.
@@adriel7229 I wish I had your problem. I love dear and would be so very happy if they came to my backyard.
If Neil had kept quiet & ignored the neighbors the situation would have resolved on its own eventually
Well it seemed he caught lyme disease 🤢 & couldnt work ... just the reason he asked jennifer to stop the corn craziness ...
@@j3suisd3❤❤❤
How come I hear banjos playing in my mind?
Lol
Wasn't this an episode of Fear Thy Neighbor?
yep
Deer me, deer me! This is another great analysis Dr. Grande!
One day I hope to tune in and hear you speculating….one can dream…
Had Neil called the police and then gone out the front door with the shotgun and not pointed it but told his wife to come inside, he might have had a defense claiming that he thought Todd was reaching for a gun!
The moment he snuck out a window and hid in the shadows at the corner of his house he screwed up! The only reason to do things the way he did was for the element of surprise, he wanted to remain unseen to get lined up for a shot! I think he snapped and felt like he was being punished with the restraining order and his beef with the neighbor was now affecting his wife and kids. He knew when he climbed out the window that he was going to put an end to the situation once and for all!
Dr. Grandes writing is on POINT this round
As always, thanks, Doc!
"The police can go there and help the guy who was shot, I'm not going to shoot them."
"Were you the shooter?"
"... I'm not going to say anything"
Hey, grandpa, you already said too much.
I had a Remington 1100 semi auto shotgun, like we see here. I can Attest to them "Just going off, it was a blur". It happens every time you pull the trigger. So 5 shots in 2 seconds is possible.. Heck of a kick, too. Not sure why he didn't notice that effect
He didn't seem to be a deep thinker.
@@susankeith326 You would thihk the kick would get his attention
Oh my lord, this happened less than 2 miles from where I grew up and I was unaware of this case.
Hoping he finds some peace, that was one messy neighbor dispute gone bad.
Dear dear me, what an analysis!
Dr Grande i watch your show all the time. Please cover the Brianna Ghey story in the 🇬🇧 UK
Dr. Grande, a true Wordsman
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande, as always. Heard about this case before, but not so informatively.
Was with a friend the other day, who asked me -
Q. "What do you call a deer with no eyes?"
A. 🤷♀ "No eye-deer".
And ...
Q. "What do you call a deer, with no eyes and three legs?"
A. 🤷♀🤷♀"STILL no eye-deer".
(Free groans included).
But, in defense, it does work better as a vocal pun, rather than as a written one, though.
At 9:20, hey Neil... why the long face?
I remember this episode of Fear Thy Neighbor. I’m always glad to live in the country! ;)
Unfortunately this reminds me of the old saying that the cemetery is full of people who had the right of way and took it.
Great poetry sir!
Dr Grande os gonna have a field day with Vince McMahon ooh boy
Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! Your true fans love your humor and sarcasm. February 1 is National Dark Chocolate Day (gotta have some Waterbridge Connoisseur dark chocolate liqueur brandy beans later!), Change Your Password Day, National Baked Alaska Day, Candy-Making Day, Serpent Day, Spunky Old Broads Day, Hula in the Coola Day, Robinson Crusoe Day, G.I. Joe Day, Car Insurance Day, and National Cake Pop Day.
Darn I ate my chocolate yesterday
People suck and most of them are crazy. I can see both sides of this dispute and can understand why someone would flip their shit. Very sad it came to this, but the lesson here is to always be a good neighbor.
I’m with Neal on this one
That feels like a bit of a stretch for conviction involving premeditation. People often keep a loaded gun in their home for defense, and with the police failing to do anything about Todd threatening to kill his neighbors (also a crime in Minnesota), I'd sail Neil was justified for keeping a loaded shotgun. It really seems to me that the New Brighton police were the ones who failed here. The unwarranted arrest of Neil's son based on unverified claims, in a bar that he was at prior to the arrival of the alleged victim. Not to mention Todd making so many more threats of death and violence and not being arrested.
Taking a leaf from the police playbook "yeah i accidentally drew my gun instead of my taser and it went off by mistake 20 times" "you did nothing wrong!"
I went to maps and navigated Knollwood Dr. Its beautiful semi rural MN and there is snow everywhere for most of the pictures.
Poor Jennifer. Lives with a guy slowly pickling his life away with booze, lives across from a guy with nothing better to do than be a massive dk to his neighbors. All she wanted to do was feed some animals.
Neil was free to own his firearms and think anyone was going for their belt at any time. The problem here was purely not enough guns. If everyone was carrying this wouldn’t have happened.
@@WhereisMelania You're being sarcastic right?
@@bluejay9890 yes.
@@bluejay9890 yes
@@WhereisMelaniaGood grief!
Neal looks like the actor Scott Glenn who played the prison rodeo badass in the urban cowboy. Where’s John travolta when you need him
Read the story of Samson in the Bible. No not the hair cutting part. The whole story of pointless feuding and retaliation and where that leads
Thumbnails never disappoint 😂
yeah, it's quite impressive. the good doctor was able to take three different images and combined them into one. it's too complex to explain the lengthy process of the three image combo here, but maybe he'll do it in a separate "short". he'll probably have enough time left to do his taxes.
Neal is now in prison along with others of his... elk. 🤔
I appreciate the self defense explanation. As most know, the elements required to be proven for a particular crime and those required for an affirmative defense varies from state to state, often markedly.
This information is necessary for an adequate understanding of the case.
Once again the lurking letter litany is hilarious!
It's interesting how things can get so heated between neighbors. Then it turned into a pissing match between the men. It escalated to the point of a murder. Once you're that angry, the emotions take over and you legitimize in your own mind, that taking the law into your own hands is worth it. After you cool off and get sentenced to life in prison, you see the result of your emotional thinking. Probably even wonder how you'd ever justified what you did as okay! I've lived in my neighborhood for 32 years and there have been several riffs between neighbors over that time. Both parties usually see things from only their perspective, so nothing really changes. In my case, I've tried to resolve differences with my neighbor, but it usually doesn't change how he feels about it. At that point, I've chosen to drop the pursual of my opinion. I recognize that I've stated how I feel - regardless of the outcome. So in my mind, it's a no win situation. I don't take it as if I've given into their opinion, but rather that we're at a stalemate. It boils down to feeling that you tried and nothing changed. But if you continue pushing the issue, you are then part of exacerbating the situation which will not have a good ending. Unfortunately, too many people think "it's my way or the highway" so they can't see that there are two sides to the argument and continuing it won't change a thing. We need to change our attitude about differences. Our country is very divided over many opposite views/issues. It's not a healthy mindset and it's caused a lot of unnecessary division. There's truth in the saying, "Divide and conquer". Once divisiveness becomes the #1 outcome, there's nothing good that comes from that way of thinking.
---Done with rant---
Yes deer look cute to feed and watch but actually they can cause big problems such as eat all the vegetables and flowers you plant and bushes if it’s a drought season. Also, they do carry ticks, so it is a realistic concern, and they easily overpopulate in some places specially if they have enough food.
What time I put flowers on a relative graveyard and I looked back before I was leaving in my car and I saw deer eating the flowers.
Well, the deer were here first.
Move to the city if you dont like wild animals.
Waiting for your video on Justin Mohn.
I agree with you. I usually do! I love your sense of humor!
Deer Lord this was a tragic one! I agree that feeding deer could bring Lyme to the area. I've lived in areas where Lyme is spread that way. But he shouldn't have shot those dear deer people though.
Todd was the instigator in this sad episode. Neal will pay the price for killing Todd, but my sympathies are with Neal. If Todd had had more sense, he would still be living. He was the architect of his own demise. Total fool, didn't know how to live a sane and civilized life with his neighbors.
Pls analyze the case of 8 yr old Chad Choice of Tyler, TX. His killer tormented Chad’s family yrs after the murder by sending them some of Chad’s bones. I’d like to hear your opinion on this killer
Everyone's nightmare, a crazy angry neighbor who focuses on your family. Its absolutely not any kind of an excuse for his behavior, but attracting disease carrying, nuisance wildlife to a neighborhood is selfish and antisocial.
I bring homemade them cookies when there's a problem with neighbors. I've never had a neighbor shoot me, either.