My dream was to be and FBI agent, got to phase 2, told truth in EVERYTHING and I have never been a trouble maker and got permanently banned from ever reapplying because I failed it. It needs to be removed from a hiring process. To say I was crushed was beyond underselling how I felt. To have a dream crushed over something that doesn’t do anything
@@johndelgado9181 I would have busted my ass to be the best agent they ever hired but they will never know because of pseudo science. It’s so disheartening.
The entire exam is an "opinion" you could tell the truth and your examiner just may not like you for whatever reason. I have personally seen an occasion where someone withheld derogatory information that was documented and was hired by an agency. Dust yourself off and try elsewhere.
How did you apply? I'm interested in the FBI student intership, any tips? what did they ask you on this test? thanks and I'm sorry you failed it, but don't worry, God have good plans for you
You are spot on. I’ve passed all my polys, and I can conclusively tell you….it’s junk science. To use the results of a poly alone to make a decision on a candidate is idiotic IMHO.
And yet most law enforcement agencies: local, state and federal continue to use them for hiring purposes despite them not being admissible in court cases. Just imagine all the “would’ve-been” great LEO’s that were turned away due to a junk science exam.
But in essence, they do, because you have to pass to even be considered, yet it's really up to the examiner and not you, as to whether you pass or fail.
When you take science and psychology classes in college, SO MANY TIMES you hear how dumb it is to ever agree to a polygraph test. People who have critical thinking skills, logic, and education, ALL know this. I knew this since I was a teenager and im almost 40 now.
I did 6 years of law enforcement in Virginia. I went to transfer to another agency in another state and they said my results were inconclusive and they couldn’t hire me under that reason alone ! Even with a clean background and being a current police officer. The polygraphs are a joke
My 26yr old son recently went through the entire hiring process for the Federal Air Marshal service, he passed all stages with flying colors, the final stage was the poly, which he thought he had done quite well on. Two weeks after the poly he received his results that he had failed the poly and would not be eligible to apply again for three years. Prior to applying and still today my son has never been in any trouble with the law, not even a traffic citation, he’s been a competition shooter since the age of seven,extremely physically fit, a Police Explorer and a FAM Explorer, US Army 2nd ID (11 Bravo) a deputy sheriff and a state trooper. I myself am recently retired after 20yrs of service with the FAM service and was once a recruiter/interviewer for the hiring process. It seems to me and my former coworkers that the service is hiring way more “grass eaters” these days, in what has been predominantly a “meat eater” driven agency. The worst thing to ever happen to the FAMS is that TSA took it over to take control of their budget and attempt to use it as a promotional launching pad for screeners. YES SCREENERS to AIR MARSHALS. Although once hired, very few get through the training process, unless cuddled all the way through. There are exceptions to the rule, but few and far between. Sad 🇺🇸😔👍
I applied to the Houston Fire Department. I've passed every other criteria in the hiring process. Except the polygraph. I tested twice and both times it was my breathing bring too controlled or to erratic. I have to reapply and start the whole Hiring process again. It's so frustrating
Litterally just had mine today. He said, 'Why am I controlling my breathing." Like dude you have this pump squeezing on arm. I'm trying not to breathe loud asf😂. ihave the cleanest record imaginable with a Master's degree. Dude was trying to make me admit to something I never did. Shit is a joke
Accurate info. The polygraph is intended to occasionally force someone to tell the truth when they would otherwise not without the added stress of believing they will be caught by the machine. The polygraph is nothing more than a stress inducer. The "art" is in the examiners questions and the examiner themselves. There is a "Set up" phase where they plant the seed that the machine will catch all lies. The subject believes it and feels added pressure to tell the truth. It does not detect lies it forces the occasional truthful responses. It has it's place but it is a lazy way to question someone. The same effect can be achieved with as little as a facial expression at the right time by an experienced investigator. I dislike polygraphs because they are snake oil for the inexperienced, lazy investigator.
The set up phase happens when you walk into the office, and they *always* make you sit there for 30 minutes or more, even if you're the first appointment of the day, to give you the impression they are doctors who have been on call all night, or some such nonsense. The whole purpose if to get you stressed. Which makes no sense if there were actual science to it, because higher levels of ambient stress make the reading inconsistent. All they are measuring, is physiological phenomena - breathing rate, heart rate, skin conductance.
I wanna start a petition to abolish the polygraph. It’s garbage that isn’t even taken seriously in court. This is ridiculous and junk science. I wanna be an officer and I’m scared of getting a bs test result that takes away my dream. Screw that test
The polygraph is garbage. I took it today for the border patrol and I failed. It showed the polygrapher that I trafficked drugs, cooked them and that i was a threat to national security. WTF!!!!! I have NEVER seen, touched or done drugs. So upsetting and frustrating
You’re not alone. After 16.5 months I just got dropped from the DEA hiring process because I showed a “significant response” when I answered “no” to a question about committing a felony (I’ve never committed a serious crime).
@@briancaton72 that's their way of cutting someone, when they can't find another reason to cut them. They'll either give a countermeasures determination, significant response determination. IE you didn't admit to anything, but your examiner believes you withheld something. Or with countermeasures youre trying to somehow manipulate your physical responses. The latter is also reserved for people who question their examiner, or call their examiner out for nonsense/discrepancies in their own questioning (i can personally attest to the latter part).
That's typical, unfortunately. You have an active imagination (aka high IQ) and a guilty conscience (aka highly ethical). The only way you will ever pass is to try it over and over with different examiners until you pass, and most applications it one and done. What's really sad, is that if you were less ethical, you could have researched how to spoof it and easily passed. That's what criminals do when they want to become prison guards to smuggle drugs, cell phones and weapons for the cartels into prisons. Even worse, the existence of a polygraph gives authorities a false sense of security - because they think it works, they are less rigorous on traditional background investigation. It has the effect of making things worse, as pseudoscience usually does.
The Polygraph is largely bullshit science, the first time I did it to enter my nations Police Service, they told me I was unsuccessful, even though I had answered as honestly as possible, I was so heartbroken that time, but looking back, I was quite nervous, and too honest, I spilled my guts about shit that probably disqualified me, those factors will fail you, the aim of the game is to remain as calm as possible.
Yeah and then they tell you not to breathe. They want you to hold your breathe until you’re literally fighting for air. Lol, I wanted to be a police officer so bad and when I took the polygraph, the man(if you wanna call him that), pretty much told me to stop breathing and just answer so I did. Then he proceeded to tell me why I wasn’t breathing properly. Dude literally had me hyperventilating just to answer 30 questions. Mind you I was young, just out the military and to see that happen first hand is disheartening because I knew that’s what I wanted to do, even after the military, I wanted to continue to give back to my community outside the military. However let’s hope my CBP exams are better than the local PDs tests. I agree the polygraph should be done with, so many people come in wanting the job but none get it due to A. The person being a complete fool. B. Just not caring. In my case it really did seem like the man conducting my poly didn’t care at all.
the best way to past it is to get use to your heartbeat when you talk, for example if they ask you a question and you answer them with the truth and your heart beats heavy while answering, that is definitely a bad signs.
I was best in the department I Applied for, I had the best PT scores and everyone loved me, since I was able to spend the day with all the deputies shadowing. Today I took a polygraph somehow failed and got disqualified even though I told the truth in the poly... its completely Bullshit and the polygraph guys KNOW IT TOO!! I got screwed over by the people I trusted. I reckon that's what I get for trying to be a good person. More than likely will not be applying anywhere again.
damnnnn bruh almost wish I never read your comment imagine if I worked my ass off for a year to help my community and they say “nah I’ll take this dude who did cocaine in his days but when he got hired he didn’t need it”
@@attackferrets RULES FOR THEE AND NOT FOR ME there is alot of corruption in departments. cops admit polygraph is bullshit. BUT THEY STILL ASK FOR IT. its a 50/50 chance basically. they use it as a excuse to get rid of you but they have no problem keeping the money i spent on books and shit to learn the laws and train for them. i know alot of really good cops but ive learned that the day WE THE PEOPLE step up and overpower corrupt scumbags will be the day America will be great again.
Well, if you decide to try again, go watch videos on how to spoof it. If it's real science, you won't be able to spoof it, so don't feel bad for trying. You know the people they want to catch are all spoofing it, so it accomplishes nothing other than to disqualify people who have kind of naturally guilty conscience, which tend to be the most honest people around.
Don't feel bad. I took 2 with CBP 2 months apart and they told me I was withholding information. Which was BS I told the God honest truth. Crazy thing is because before they hooked me up he told me what he would ask. And after that he hooked me up and the first question was, do I intend to be truthful. And I said yes. Then fail another question. Like I literally told the truth that I would he honest. Then he told me " you were so close almost made it. Well call you back," which they did and yet again failed. Sad I was over qualified for that job, they lost a good candidate ND it seems they still haven't learned their lesson 😕 smh
My dad is law enforcement as well. And he even agrees that the polygraph should be taken off. Along with his other co workers that also agree that the polygraph should be taken off mainly because of the fact that it’s become a 50/50 chance of whether or not you’ll pass the polygraph exam. And it’s also Knocking out a lot of amazing applicants from being able to join. If it is not admissible in court, then why is it still admissible for law enforcement to use. It has been proven, time and time again, that this exam isn’t 100% accurate. Someone’s nervousness, fear, or even anxiety can cuz them to fail. Yes, the people who are conducting the exam is a professional and should be trained to be able to tell those emotions apart from the reaction of lying. However, it can also be misinterpreted or misleading if read incorrectly
Polygraph should be done with. Even leo applicants abroad don't have to go through that nonsense. From where I live, they can just filter out the bad ones through a comprehensive background investigation which US federal agencies also conduct.
How to pass a polygraph? Do not admit anything different on a polygraph from what you wrote on your SF-86 Background Form. Admit something different and you flunk. It's just an interrogation tool that allows an interrogator/polygrapher to accuse you of lying... to see if you'll change your answer from what's written.
This is exactly what my friend told me. She’s in law enforcement. I agree. If you’re being truthful in the written part it should be easy to be truthful during the Poly.
Yes and no. If you react in ways that the examiner arbitrarily decides is inconclusive, you won't pass. But for sure, do not perjure yourself. If you lied on your forms and admit you lied during the exam, they may decide to prosecute you. Don't lie on the forms to begin with, but if you did, walk away and find a different job rather than risk a felony.
@@MyPOVvlogs It's easy to be truthful, but that isn't the same as passing. People with a naturally guilty conscience (who by the way, tend to be the most ethical in practice) and an active imagination (who tend to be the top performers) have a hard time with them and often just find another job in frustration, while low IQ sociopaths can easily pass them.
I failed my polygraph test because the examiner said I was fidgeting with my legs while answering questions, but I don't recall doing so. I do remember feeling drowsy during the test, which the examiner even pointed out. Now that I've failed, I'm unsure what to do next. Getting this job was important to me because it would bring me closer to my daughter, who lives in another state with my ex-wife, and this setback feels like a punishment.
That’s terrible man. I wish you best of luck in the future. I’ll never believe psuedo science is an effective way to screen law enforcement and hopefully they change that soon especially the way society is now about cops, real hard to find people. Plus, it’s not even admissible in a court of law. Best of luck to you, there will always be many more chances 🙏🙏 praying for you and your daughter!
Thing about this, most politicians and even the president dont have to take polygraphs and if they did , idk how they passed because all the lies they have to told to the public and the lies that have been exposed by them is astronomical.
OMG that is a great point!. Why do some have to but not the most consequential people of the highest trust. More than half of the politicians would have to be fired or not allowed to run for office. Brilliant.
Thanks for helping my anxiety on the situation. I know I am a good person who's made some mistakes but nothing too crazy. My intentions were to suit up and show up and leave my ego at the door.
...also, at the end of the exam, they often have a survey. Don't be afraid to fill it out and flat out state you know this is junk science and that the entire process should be terminated and is entirely dependent on your examiner. It won't hurt you, and it's already a black eye to your examiner if they don't get you to confess to anything but also fail you.
@@eventhisidistaken Yeah Im hoping I can reapply if I fail again....I know they always say it blacklists you entirely, but Im just as skeptical of that part especially considering the L.E. shortage lately
@@sergiocervantes1662 Not yet this time around I'm not going to let them bully me like last time.....if they insist I'm lying or anything of that nature "ok you're wrong, no hard feelings goodbye"
Appreciate the videos as always. Perhaps you could do one on going from Enlisted to Enlisted Investigator in the different branches of the Military? How to improve your chances of “transferring” or reclassing. (Enlisted Army to Army CID etc., Enlisted Navy to Enlisted NCIS) Thanks as always.
It is Grazy to go thru a 6 month process to become a police officer and to be stopped dead in your tracks because of one Person and a machine that in the Laws eyes is not believable enough to use in court! Now that’s insane
I believe the polygraph should be used to further investigate and get clues about an applicant’s background and should not outright disqualify an applicant. So I’m not against it’s use but rather how it’s used
If I read it correctly, CBP will waive the polygraph if you're a veteran and or if you had a job in the military that a certain level of security clearance. If you ask me any service member that has a honorable discharge shouldn't have to take a polygraph for any Fed law enforcement job. There's a reason they don't use them in court.
I did the baseline with the guy and said yes to if my name is so and so, if the lights are on in the room and if I am sitting on a chair. All yes. Which I said and the idiot still was finding issues with my responses 😂 not admissible in court but required for a job. Wonderful 😂
I’ve enjoyed many of your videos- wondering if you can share some info about adjudication (whole person), and also what to wear for panel interviews… I am a woman applicant and sometimes it’s hard to tell if a suit is preferred, or if a dress would suffice. I know you have sat in on quite a few interviews and I’d love to hear your perspective!
Explain, I took the CBP polygraph, Examiner said i passed, had to send it up to quality control, got an email saying i faild and need to retake the exam, came back 2 weeks laters, examiner said i passed all the test except 1 question, a question i passed on the previous test, and a question that i know for a fact i wasnt lying or hiding anything about, im Military Police in the Marine Corps, i get out soon. And was tentatively selected for GS9 position. It doesnt make sense to me, i never been arrested, only smoked weed in high school which i admitted, 2 traffic tickets. Other than that i been good thru out my life.
Because the guy is right, some of the examiners aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. The whole thing is BS. He's right, if you tell the truth and don't pass, they're an agency of idiots you don't want to work for anyway.
The same thing just happened to me. They told me that I had significant reactions to a question about crimes against property and another about sex crimes. Total BS...
@@radicalraz did you leave anything behind? Maybe things that happened even 15 years ago? I just took my polygraph 2 days ago and 100% told the truth about everything even things that happened when I was in elementary. I was calm and collected, but my glands from my hands tend to sweat a lot and I hope that doesn't affect my results :/.
@@cheezet100fyi Nope, there was nothing to tell. I hadn't stolen since I was 5 (which I told them about) and never comitted anything that would be considered a sex crime in my entire life.
They have the effect of disqualifying people who have active imaginations and a guilty conscience...i.e. people who are brilliant and highly ethical. A low IQ criminal who has read up on how to spoof them easily passes.
I genuinely haven't committed any crimes, served in the military, honorable discharge recommended to re-enlist, masters degree and thesis done 3.9/4.0 GPA, was that way for associates and bachelor's too, work executive protection for a fortune 500 company, took an interrogation class at college and learned the poly It still fucking terrifies me, just being hooked up to wires, even with a squeaky clean record, is enough to decide no to a federal career. It's on par with medical needles, even if you are honest with a clean background it's scary. This video is slightly relieving, but still it's intimidating, maybe it's because I'm 27 and I'll relax with more age. Maybe it's because I was raised homeschooled and so I was terrified to lie or be searched by my parents even when I done nothing wrong. >gunnersmate anti piracy and anti isis operations and freedom of navigation operations in 2016-2019, fun >executive protection in risky environments, fun >training witn simunition/utm, fun >even thinking of polygraph, stressful, makes me not want go go law enforcement even though due to upbringing I'm always truthful with authority
I'm about to graduate, criminal justice major 3.74 GPA associate and bachelors degree, I'm also terrified about this type of test, specially because I suffer from social anxiety so I tend to feel extremely anxious in situations when I'm evaluated by other individuals. Even though my record is clean and I'm a model citizen I just can't help it, I hate being like this but I can't change it, it's a nightmare
Maybe it can be used by departments as a way to not hire you for a reason that they can’t or won’t put their finger on? Also maybe just another obstacle in the process that will weed out people that don’t want it. I don’t know just theories because it’s hard to believe that nobody likes them but they are still used. Reminds me of a boss I had ask if applicants would consent to a drug test on the spot. It was never administered but the reaction was observed.
polygraphs are junk but i’m excited that one of my long time friends will pass with flying colors. dude is a beast, i’ll shit my pants if he tells me he fails
@@stevenstevens6904 Never said they were. If you took them you should know a high majority of us in the 1811 field know the polys are a sham. Still, honesty is the best key, keep your responses stable.
I agree, but also, that isn't enough to pass. People that fail are occasionally lying, but in the vast vast vast majority of cases, those people don't submit to it to begin with, because there is no legal compulsion to do so. That means that most people who fail, were honest. It's worse than junk science, because it has the effect of excluding people who have an active imagination and a naturally guilty conscience -i.e., people who are both smart and ethical. I suppose that's how we end up with dimwitted criminals like Garland and Harris at high levels of law enforcement.
@@florida9710 told the truth and still failed lol. supposedly i know terrorist and/or im in contact with terrorist yet im a pilot (part of national security). Its a joke.
They're nothing here but guessing, innuendos, and speculation regarding the polygraph. As a general rule, it's inadmissible in criminal court. The guessing starts on the reason why. It's not for accuracy. It's because there's no certification to become a technician. Anyone can purchase the equipment and give tests. Our community college offers a 3-credit course in polygraph. The teenagers completing this course think they can give tests. Nothing could be more wrong. All law enforcement technicians attend a 12-week curriculum in polygraph at an army base in Alabama. You have to have a bachelor's degree to apply. When you complete this course, you are a poly tech. The FBI, CIA, Marshal's Service, US Secret Service, ATF, DEA, and other premier agencies use the poly to screen applicants. I see certain posters here think they know more than these premier agencies. That's why some applicants sit on the outside looking in.
On my SF86 I said that I smoked marijuana in college from August 2018- December 2018. But I forgot to put that I smoked in 2015 as well. What should I do?
Glocks are issued and Rock River 5.56 rifles but agents can buy their own weapons from an approved list of calibers and manufacturers. I will do one on the firearms qual standards, which just about everyone will be able to pass.
@@mgallager1449 The Glock 17 is now issued to all new agents. 10 years ago, it was the .40 cal model, but they have gone back and adopted the 17 as standard issue once again. Having said that, you can and should buy your weapons once you are out of the academy and give the gov their gun back. You will be allowed to carry any Glock, Sig, Smith or Beretta in 9mm, 10mm, .40 or .45. No.380s. They also allow .38 and .357 revolvers. No Clint Eastwood .44s. I should do a video on this.
On the sheriff's office, it was one of the last things. I think DEA does their test before the BI so that if there are admissions or the applicant fails, then they dont have to do the BI.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 yeah, a BI hasnt been started as of current that im aware of. Completed medical and psych already, i just found it odd they didn't have me do the polygraph before doing those two.
It's not just normal, it's essential. If you had no skin in the game, nothing to lose, took one the day you first applied, you wouldn't care if you passed or failed. You'd relax and pass easily. They want and need you to feel like you're invested. They want you to be afraid of not passing and losing all the time you have invested.
@@hifiandrew I can understand the thinking behind it. I have to take a follow up, I told them the truth during the first one. As far as the job would it be nice to get hired? Yeah obv, but at the end of the day if they go with someone else or don't hire me or anyone at all thats their decision. I'm not the one who has to go in front congress and explain why they can't hire enough people, and put a dent in the fentanyl crisis.
Unfortunately, yes. Sometimes they hide the fact that this is part of the process until you've already invested a bunch of time into the process. It's an unethical bait and switch. If this happens, tell them to eff off, and walk away, then file a lawsuit for fraud.
What about the support jobs?? I see now a lot of photogs getting hired? They don’t require a 4 year degree but do require experience! What are these jobs like? Do they get to do the fun out I. The field stuff or is it all back at HQ?? Thank you!! I’m learning a lot from your videos. Always wanted to work for the feds but went the broadcast path and now see these openings!
what are examples of automatic disqualification questions and answers? From the shows it sounds like all of them. I was hoping you could separate fact from fiction?
Any question that you react to in an unexplained way will end up with a fail, even if it's your name and they can verify by dna and fingerprints you aren't lying.
I'm completing my PHS waiver to be a police cadet and I've smoked tobacco that's the only thing I've used a few times and it asks if I've used drugs like Marijuana and such should I list that as I've used a drug or should I list no?
Probably the personality type that doesn't mind constant change and sacrificing your personal life. You'll be away for long periods of time and moving a lot at moments notice.
@@leonalfaro082974 Of course. Easier said than done as the expression goes. A spouse will say this, then your DSS job makes you miss a anniversary, a baby birth, a birthday, then the motivation dwindles. A lot of people can't handle it when they're actually going through it.
@@sueluttrell9637 I didnt withold anything on my second one. Examiner accused me of undetected criminal behavior (I dont have any criminal behavior, told them about minor mj usage in undergrad years ago that was it) the head of the unit, ruled the test as "countermeasures", which I wasn't accused of during the test. So I got two different conclusions. As far as the test itself, it was apparent to me that its a test to screw with an examinee. The examiner tried playing the same games with me I would play with offenders when I was trying to get the full story from them when I worked in a previous job dealing with that particular demographic.
@@sueluttrell9637 LMBO! You're clearly an examiner. You better than anyone knows it's bullshit. The whole purpose is to try to get people to open up. But some people can not stop their minds from imagining things and getting a fear reaction...and even if they explain it to you, it keeps triggering because a 10 page list of exceptions doesn't stop it. Quit and find a real job you sociopath.
@@eventhisidistaken yeah thats not the case, had a follow up 5 months later. Told the guy off (didn't use any foul language), when he tried the baseless accusations route. Needless to say he was shocked, and probably wasn't expecting an examinee to get angry with him. Got a lengthy response from the supervisor after I challenged the ruling, and was told I could reapply in X years, and told them I had no intention of doing so.
Or 3, the entire Polygraph test is a nerve racking ordeal that can make anyone nervous even if they are 100% innocent. And nervousness tends to affect the results and create false positives. Sociopaths, psychopaths and serial killers have all easily passed that Polygraph bullshit, because of their lack or remorse, and emotional responses, so that first point about being guilty is complete bullshit, and the examiner would have no way of knowing regardless, anyway. Polygraph testing can't actually detect lies, only certain physiological responses that are often believed to be associated with lying, thing is, these physiological responses can also occur due to literally anything, so, yeah.
Most likely not in any agency I know of. Most public intoxication to a point where things escalated and law enforcement was involved might get you second looks
Can a polygraph test work on reincarnations ?? I asked this question because i truly believe that it can also work on reincarnations not just truth or lie on a poly test.
POLYGRAPHER TELLS ME IN MY FACE, YOU WERE HONEST AND YOU PASSED THE TEST, 10 MINS LATER, HE USHERS ME INTO THE SAME ROOM AND ASK ME, DID YOU USE COUNTERMEASURES, I SAID, I DIDN'T MOVE AT ALL AND I DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME TO DO. THEN I CHECK MY EMAIL AT HOME AND THE AGENCY STATED THAT I USED COUNTERMEASURES. THESE PEOPLE CRACK ME UP
I’m about to take cbp poly in the next few weeks. The sentiment I’m getting about polygraph exams is really it’s about whether or not they like you as an individual
Should do polygraph on Cpt Gucherio and 1sgt Kevin Armstrong OIF6 C Co 1/327 Infantry 101st ABN Division Ft Campbell Kevin Armstrong is Retired SGM and Commander of CVMA gang in Clarksville TN. Cpt Gucherio and 1sgt Kevin Armstrong setup my platoon to get attacked by our personal trained Iraqi SWAT team my platoon trained, I called setup before leaving briefing area told my whole squad of 9. Iraqi SWAT team was given 15-20 on the objective before we got there, we waited at the Iraqi police station and the Iraqi SWAT team continue to Objective to the Play ground. With BBC News reporters video taping the Fake night cache hunt on the play ground...A American M-67 hand grenade bounce off my turret shield and landed on platoon on-line which New PSG SSG Richards White Lighted the American M-67 hand grenade (Pin was pulled but Spoon Safety was still On). SSG Richards Identified by asking over platoon net " Did someone drop a Grenade?" Then In front of our MRAP as SSG Ramos was ground guiding infront of us a grenade blew up on him. During the AAR After Action Review, SSG Ramos wasn't there because he Ate 💥 the other American M-67 hand grenade but survived. I waited till all the Chain of Command was focused on me. SSG Rabe asked why didn't I(I loaded a M203 High Explosive Dual Purpose HEDP Rd, I didn't shoot LOOM parachute or Star Cluster because of troops in the open also SSG Rabe leader of the MRAPs told our 2 MRAPs on left side to backup and move behind him) shoot? Literally when like this "👆🏻 #1 I didn't have PID(Positive Identification) ✌🏻#2 WHERE THE FUCK WAS OUR IRAQI SWAT TEAM AT? I DIDN'T SEE THEM THE WHOLE MISSION?" Everyone got quiet and left the area. I got sent to a place where a soldier saw to much combat for a weekend. Then next time my squad leader SSG Ramos and I was at FOB Speicher, he bought me a Tactical Trunk Monkey patch for that specific mission and no one else got anything.
My dream was to be and FBI agent, got to phase 2, told truth in EVERYTHING and I have never been a trouble maker and got permanently banned from ever reapplying because I failed it. It needs to be removed from a hiring process. To say I was crushed was beyond underselling how I felt. To have a dream crushed over something that doesn’t do anything
Brother if this true, I terribly sorry for you and I agree with you 100%. My condolences sir, it’s a lost of good candidates.
@@johndelgado9181 I would have busted my ass to be the best agent they ever hired but they will never know because of pseudo science. It’s so disheartening.
The entire exam is an "opinion" you could tell the truth and your examiner just may not like you for whatever reason. I have personally seen an occasion where someone withheld derogatory information that was documented and was hired by an agency.
Dust yourself off and try elsewhere.
How did you apply? I'm interested in the FBI student intership, any tips? what did they ask you on this test? thanks and I'm sorry you failed it, but don't worry, God have good plans for you
@@taliarodriguez7711 I signed an NDA so I can’t tell you but it’s like 4 hours long and they grill you about every personal thing you can imagine
You are spot on. I’ve passed all my polys, and I can conclusively tell you….it’s junk science. To use the results of a poly alone to make a decision on a candidate is idiotic IMHO.
And yet most law enforcement agencies: local, state and federal continue to use them for hiring purposes despite them not being admissible in court cases. Just imagine all the “would’ve-been” great LEO’s that were turned away due to a junk science exam.
But in essence, they do, because you have to pass to even be considered, yet it's really up to the examiner and not you, as to whether you pass or fail.
When you take science and psychology classes in college, SO MANY TIMES you hear how dumb it is to ever agree to a polygraph test. People who have critical thinking skills, logic, and education, ALL know this. I knew this since I was a teenager and im almost 40 now.
I did 6 years of law enforcement in Virginia. I went to transfer to another agency in another state and they said my results were inconclusive and they couldn’t hire me under that reason alone ! Even with a clean background and being a current police officer. The polygraphs are a joke
@@thomasryan2679 Mall security
I had the same experience lol
Can you sue them or investigate?
@@thomasryan2679 wym “what is law enforcement”. It means either local, state or federal law enforcement agencies. It’s not hard to understand lmao
My 26yr old son recently went through the entire hiring process for the Federal Air Marshal service, he passed all stages with flying colors, the final stage was the poly, which he thought he had done quite well on. Two weeks after the poly he received his results that he had failed the poly and would not be eligible to apply again for three years. Prior to applying and still today my son has never been in any trouble with the law, not even a traffic citation, he’s been a competition shooter since the age of seven,extremely physically fit, a Police Explorer and a FAM Explorer, US Army 2nd ID (11 Bravo) a deputy sheriff and a state trooper. I myself am recently retired after 20yrs of service with the FAM service and was once a recruiter/interviewer for the hiring process. It seems to me and my former coworkers that the service is hiring way more “grass eaters” these days, in what has been predominantly a “meat eater” driven agency. The worst thing to ever happen to the FAMS is that TSA took it over to take control of their budget and attempt to use it as a promotional launching pad for screeners. YES SCREENERS to AIR MARSHALS. Although once hired, very few get through the training process, unless cuddled all the way through. There are exceptions to the rule, but few and far between.
Sad 🇺🇸😔👍
I applied to the Houston Fire Department. I've passed every other criteria in the hiring process. Except the polygraph. I tested twice and both times it was my breathing bring too controlled or to erratic. I have to reapply and start the whole
Hiring process again. It's so frustrating
Litterally just had mine today. He said, 'Why am I controlling my breathing." Like dude you have this pump squeezing on arm. I'm trying not to breathe loud asf😂. ihave the cleanest record imaginable with a Master's degree. Dude was trying to make me admit to something I never did. Shit is a joke
Accurate info. The polygraph is intended to occasionally force someone to tell the truth when they would otherwise not without the added stress of believing they will be caught by the machine. The polygraph is nothing more than a stress inducer. The "art" is in the examiners questions and the examiner themselves. There is a "Set up" phase where they plant the seed that the machine will catch all lies. The subject believes it and feels added pressure to tell the truth. It does not detect lies it forces the occasional truthful responses. It has it's place but it is a lazy way to question someone. The same effect can be achieved with as little as a facial expression at the right time by an experienced investigator. I dislike polygraphs because they are snake oil for the inexperienced, lazy investigator.
The set up phase happens when you walk into the office, and they *always* make you sit there for 30 minutes or more, even if you're the first appointment of the day, to give you the impression they are doctors who have been on call all night, or some such nonsense. The whole purpose if to get you stressed. Which makes no sense if there were actual science to it, because higher levels of ambient stress make the reading inconsistent. All they are measuring, is physiological phenomena - breathing rate, heart rate, skin conductance.
What if you like counterintelligence and countersocial engineering for fun?
I wanna start a petition to abolish the polygraph. It’s garbage that isn’t even taken seriously in court. This is ridiculous and junk science. I wanna be an officer and I’m scared of getting a bs test result that takes away my dream. Screw that test
The polygraph is garbage. I took it today for the border patrol and I failed. It showed the polygrapher that I trafficked drugs, cooked them and that i was a threat to national security. WTF!!!!! I have NEVER seen, touched or done drugs. So upsetting and frustrating
You’re not alone. After 16.5 months I just got dropped from the DEA hiring process because I showed a “significant response” when I answered “no” to a question about committing a felony (I’ve never committed a serious crime).
@@briancaton72 that's their way of cutting someone, when they can't find another reason to cut them. They'll either give a countermeasures determination, significant response determination. IE you didn't admit to anything, but your examiner believes you withheld something. Or with countermeasures youre trying to somehow manipulate your physical responses. The latter is also reserved for people who question their examiner, or call their examiner out for nonsense/discrepancies in their own questioning (i can personally attest to the latter part).
That's typical, unfortunately. You have an active imagination (aka high IQ) and a guilty conscience (aka highly ethical). The only way you will ever pass is to try it over and over with different examiners until you pass, and most applications it one and done. What's really sad, is that if you were less ethical, you could have researched how to spoof it and easily passed. That's what criminals do when they want to become prison guards to smuggle drugs, cell phones and weapons for the cartels into prisons. Even worse, the existence of a polygraph gives authorities a false sense of security - because they think it works, they are less rigorous on traditional background investigation. It has the effect of making things worse, as pseudoscience usually does.
@@briancaton72
The Polygraph is largely bullshit science, the first time I did it to enter my nations Police Service, they told me I was unsuccessful, even though I had answered as honestly as possible, I was so heartbroken that time, but looking back, I was quite nervous, and too honest, I spilled my guts about shit that probably disqualified me, those factors will fail you, the aim of the game is to remain as calm as possible.
Yeah and then they tell you not to breathe. They want you to hold your breathe until you’re literally fighting for air. Lol, I wanted to be a police officer so bad and when I took the polygraph, the man(if you wanna call him that), pretty much told me to stop breathing and just answer so I did. Then he proceeded to tell me why I wasn’t breathing properly. Dude literally had me hyperventilating just to answer 30 questions. Mind you I was young, just out the military and to see that happen first hand is disheartening because I knew that’s what I wanted to do, even after the military, I wanted to continue to give back to my community outside the military. However let’s hope my CBP exams are better than the local PDs tests. I agree the polygraph should be done with, so many people come in wanting the job but none get it due to A. The person being a complete fool. B. Just not caring. In my case it really did seem like the man conducting my poly didn’t care at all.
the best way to past it is to get use to your heartbeat when you talk, for example if they ask you a question and you answer them with the truth and your heart beats heavy while answering, that is definitely a bad signs.
I was best in the department I Applied for, I had the best PT scores and everyone loved me, since I was able to spend the day with all the deputies shadowing. Today I took a polygraph somehow failed and got disqualified even though I told the truth in the poly... its completely Bullshit and the polygraph guys KNOW IT TOO!! I got screwed over by the people I trusted. I reckon that's what I get for trying to be a good person. More than likely will not be applying anywhere again.
damnnnn bruh almost wish I never read your comment imagine if I worked my ass off for a year to help my community and they say “nah I’ll take this dude who did cocaine in his days but when he got hired he didn’t need it”
@@attackferrets RULES FOR THEE AND NOT FOR ME there is alot of corruption in departments. cops admit polygraph is bullshit. BUT THEY STILL ASK FOR IT. its a 50/50 chance basically. they use it as a excuse to get rid of you but they have no problem keeping the money i spent on books and shit to learn the laws and train for them. i know alot of really good cops but ive learned that the day WE THE PEOPLE step up and overpower corrupt scumbags will be the day America will be great again.
The second examiner I had even admitted to me in the exam room that he thought it was bullshit.
Well, if you decide to try again, go watch videos on how to spoof it. If it's real science, you won't be able to spoof it, so don't feel bad for trying. You know the people they want to catch are all spoofing it, so it accomplishes nothing other than to disqualify people who have kind of naturally guilty conscience, which tend to be the most honest people around.
Don't feel bad. I took 2 with CBP 2 months apart and they told me I was withholding information. Which was BS I told the God honest truth. Crazy thing is because before they hooked me up he told me what he would ask. And after that he hooked me up and the first question was, do I intend to be truthful. And I said yes. Then fail another question. Like I literally told the truth that I would he honest. Then he told me " you were so close almost made it. Well call you back," which they did and yet again failed. Sad I was over qualified for that job, they lost a good candidate ND it seems they still haven't learned their lesson 😕 smh
My dad is law enforcement as well. And he even agrees that the polygraph should be taken off. Along with his other co workers that also agree that the polygraph should be taken off mainly because of the fact that it’s become a 50/50 chance of whether or not you’ll pass the polygraph exam. And it’s also
Knocking out a lot of amazing applicants from being able to join. If it is not admissible in court, then why is it still admissible for law enforcement to use. It has been proven, time and time again, that this exam isn’t 100% accurate. Someone’s nervousness, fear, or even anxiety can cuz them to fail. Yes, the people who are conducting the exam is a professional and should be trained to be able to tell those emotions apart from the reaction of lying. However, it can also be misinterpreted or misleading if read incorrectly
Polygraph should be done with. Even leo applicants abroad don't have to go through that nonsense. From where I live, they can just filter out the bad ones through a comprehensive background investigation which US federal agencies also conduct.
Yeah that polygraph is total bs and my examiner had no clue what she was doing.
How to pass a polygraph? Do not admit anything different on a polygraph from what you wrote on your SF-86 Background Form. Admit something different and you flunk. It's just an interrogation tool that allows an interrogator/polygrapher to accuse you of lying... to see if you'll change your answer from what's written.
Not true.
This is exactly what my friend told me. She’s in law enforcement. I agree. If you’re being truthful in the written part it should be easy to be truthful during the Poly.
Yes and no. If you react in ways that the examiner arbitrarily decides is inconclusive, you won't pass. But for sure, do not perjure yourself. If you lied on your forms and admit you lied during the exam, they may decide to prosecute you. Don't lie on the forms to begin with, but if you did, walk away and find a different job rather than risk a felony.
@@MyPOVvlogs It's easy to be truthful, but that isn't the same as passing. People with a naturally guilty conscience (who by the way, tend to be the most ethical in practice) and an active imagination (who tend to be the top performers) have a hard time with them and often just find another job in frustration, while low IQ sociopaths can easily pass them.
This is what was always said, so it's atleast partly true.@@sueluttrell9637
I failed my polygraph test because the examiner said I was fidgeting with my legs while answering questions, but I don't recall doing so. I do remember feeling drowsy during the test, which the examiner even pointed out. Now that I've failed, I'm unsure what to do next. Getting this job was important to me because it would bring me closer to my daughter, who lives in another state with my ex-wife, and this setback feels like a punishment.
That’s terrible man. I wish you best of luck in the future. I’ll never believe psuedo science is an effective way to screen law enforcement and hopefully they change that soon especially the way society is now about cops, real hard to find people. Plus, it’s not even admissible in a court of law. Best of luck to you, there will always be many more chances 🙏🙏 praying for you and your daughter!
This video was actually extremely basic and informative. Great job! I already did my poly; therefore, I agree with the info in this video.
Thanks
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 you're welcome sir
what if i stole thing when i was fourteen
@acts9835 Use your best judgment and explain yourself. As long as you're honest and have changed, that's what's important.
Thing about this, most politicians and even the president dont have to take polygraphs and if they did , idk how they passed because all the lies they have to told to the public and the lies that have been exposed by them is astronomical.
OMG that is a great point!. Why do some have to but not the most consequential people of the highest trust. More than half of the politicians would have to be fired or not allowed to run for office. Brilliant.
Thanks for helping my anxiety on the situation. I know I am a good person who's made some mistakes but nothing too crazy. My intentions were to suit up and show up and leave my ego at the door.
Failed miserably my first one, but I plan on applying to 4 more agencies....I figured I'm bound to pass at least one of them
...also, at the end of the exam, they often have a survey. Don't be afraid to fill it out and flat out state you know this is junk science and that the entire process should be terminated and is entirely dependent on your examiner. It won't hurt you, and it's already a black eye to your examiner if they don't get you to confess to anything but also fail you.
@@eventhisidistaken Yeah Im hoping I can reapply if I fail again....I know they always say it blacklists you entirely, but Im just as skeptical of that part especially considering the L.E. shortage lately
@@danielcarrillo4385 have you applied to any yet? i’m going to get a polygraph date soon hopefully I do good
@@sergiocervantes1662 Not yet this time around I'm not going to let them bully me like last time.....if they insist I'm lying or anything of that nature "ok you're wrong, no hard feelings goodbye"
@@danielcarrillo4385Agreed.
EXCELLENT Video! encouraging but also informative.
Appreciate the videos as always. Perhaps you could do one on going from Enlisted to Enlisted Investigator in the different branches of the Military? How to improve your chances of “transferring” or reclassing. (Enlisted Army to Army CID etc., Enlisted Navy to Enlisted NCIS) Thanks as always.
Yep. Thanks.
It is Grazy to go thru a 6 month process to become a police officer and to be stopped dead in your tracks because of one Person and a machine that in the Laws eyes is not believable enough to use in court! Now that’s insane
9 months here
Absolutely insane indeed.
I believe the polygraph should be used to further investigate and get clues about an applicant’s background and should not outright disqualify an applicant. So I’m not against it’s use but rather how it’s used
Your FBI content was very helpful, I've seen all the videos. It would be great to hear more about the Bureau
If I read it correctly, CBP will waive the polygraph if you're a veteran and or if you had a job in the military that a certain level of security clearance.
If you ask me any service member that has a honorable discharge shouldn't have to take a polygraph for any Fed law enforcement job. There's a reason they don't use them in court.
I think you do have to take a polygraph
veteran with a top secret clearance or higher is the requirement for that waiver for CBP
@@manglepop How are things going for you by the way, I recall you applying for a few Fed jobs.
@@jamesmerone still at the beginning of the hiring process.. I'll say about 20% through. It's gonna be a while before I get through it
@@manglepop Keep at it. You got this, my man
"Ohh good day " lol weather in NY is humid.
Thanks for the info and great content! I'm applying to local/state law enforcement agencies not federal (considering) .
What about expunged things from when your were a teen? Can you doo a video on that
Can you please do a video of the DEA academy in Quantico? Daily routine, pt, classes, firearms, etc.
Will do
I did the baseline with the guy and said yes to if my name is so and so, if the lights are on in the room and if I am sitting on a chair. All yes. Which I said and the idiot still was finding issues with my responses 😂 not admissible in court but required for a job. Wonderful 😂
I know a dude that was military who waived the polygraph. Certain people are able to waive it under a certain criteria.
I have to reapply in 2 years for CBP, did not pass. I told the truth but I just felt awkward.
I’ve enjoyed many of your videos- wondering if you can share some info about adjudication (whole person), and also what to wear for panel interviews… I am a woman applicant and sometimes it’s hard to tell if a suit is preferred, or if a dress would suffice. I know you have sat in on quite a few interviews and I’d love to hear your perspective!
Great suggestion!
Explain, I took the CBP polygraph, Examiner said i passed, had to send it up to quality control, got an email saying i faild and need to retake the exam, came back 2 weeks laters, examiner said i passed all the test except 1 question, a question i passed on the previous test, and a question that i know for a fact i wasnt lying or hiding anything about, im Military Police in the Marine Corps, i get out soon. And was tentatively selected for GS9 position. It doesnt make sense to me, i never been arrested, only smoked weed in high school which i admitted, 2 traffic tickets. Other than that i been good thru out my life.
Damn bro im taking the poly soon
Because the guy is right, some of the examiners aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. The whole thing is BS. He's right, if you tell the truth and don't pass, they're an agency of idiots you don't want to work for anyway.
@@moe9587 when ru taking it
@@xLethalxProdigyx i was told id be getting an email to take it within 4 weeks. I just did the interview last week.
the weed alone will disqualify you from any federal jobs even if you have never gotten caught.
If only I didn't fail two while telling the whole truth.
The same thing just happened to me. They told me that I had significant reactions to a question about crimes against property and another about sex crimes. Total BS...
@@radicalraz did you leave anything behind? Maybe things that happened even 15 years ago? I just took my polygraph 2 days ago and 100% told the truth about everything even things that happened when I was in elementary. I was calm and collected, but my glands from my hands tend to sweat a lot and I hope that doesn't affect my results :/.
@@cheezet100fyi Nope, there was nothing to tell. I hadn't stolen since I was 5 (which I told them about) and never comitted anything that would be considered a sex crime in my entire life.
That’s what u get for being a good person. Unfortunately nice guys do finish last.
They have the effect of disqualifying people who have active imaginations and a guilty conscience...i.e. people who are brilliant and highly ethical. A low IQ criminal who has read up on how to spoof them easily passes.
I genuinely haven't committed any crimes, served in the military, honorable discharge recommended to re-enlist, masters degree and thesis done 3.9/4.0 GPA, was that way for associates and bachelor's too, work executive protection for a fortune 500 company, took an interrogation class at college and learned the poly
It still fucking terrifies me, just being hooked up to wires, even with a squeaky clean record, is enough to decide no to a federal career. It's on par with medical needles, even if you are honest with a clean background it's scary.
This video is slightly relieving, but still it's intimidating, maybe it's because I'm 27 and I'll relax with more age. Maybe it's because I was raised homeschooled and so I was terrified to lie or be searched by my parents even when I done nothing wrong.
>gunnersmate anti piracy and anti isis operations and freedom of navigation operations in 2016-2019, fun
>executive protection in risky environments, fun
>training witn simunition/utm, fun
>even thinking of polygraph, stressful, makes me not want go go law enforcement even though due to upbringing I'm always truthful with authority
I'm about to graduate, criminal justice major 3.74 GPA associate and bachelors degree, I'm also terrified about this type of test, specially because I suffer from social anxiety so I tend to feel extremely anxious in situations when I'm evaluated by other individuals. Even though my record is clean and I'm a model citizen I just can't help it, I hate being like this but I can't change it, it's a nightmare
I already know by now that I already failed the polygraph without them Telling me.. I said something by mistake in then I tried to fixed it.
Maybe it can be used by departments as a way to not hire you for a reason that they can’t or won’t put their finger on?
Also maybe just another obstacle in the process that will weed out people that don’t want it. I don’t know just theories because it’s hard to believe that nobody likes them but they are still used.
Reminds me of a boss I had ask if applicants would consent to a drug test on the spot. It was never administered but the reaction was observed.
polygraphs are junk but i’m excited that one of my long time friends will pass with flying colors. dude is a beast, i’ll shit my pants if he tells me he fails
What happens if you have essential tremor disease? Do they take this into consideration?
Best honest in your application, be honest at the poly. Integrity is everything.
What if you haven’t done much drugs but a variety of drugs?
Bullshit. U tell the truth when u know u shouldn’t and u will fail. The polygraphers are not ur friends.
@@stevenstevens6904 Never said they were. If you took them you should know a high majority of us in the 1811 field know the polys are a sham. Still, honesty is the best key, keep your responses stable.
I agree, but also, that isn't enough to pass. People that fail are occasionally lying, but in the vast vast vast majority of cases, those people don't submit to it to begin with, because there is no legal compulsion to do so. That means that most people who fail, were honest. It's worse than junk science, because it has the effect of excluding people who have an active imagination and a naturally guilty conscience -i.e., people who are both smart and ethical. I suppose that's how we end up with dimwitted criminals like Garland and Harris at high levels of law enforcement.
Not in Polygraph testing, you must be new here. 😅
So I shouldn't mention anything tiny that may not really matter in the present, that isn't major?
I find it difficult to buy into this video because of the sync issue that starts about halfway through.
Omg! 😂 just tell the truth! I’ve been a cop for over 31 Years. There are no perfect people!
Been a Polygraph examiner for 13 years..
@@florida9710 told the truth and still failed lol. supposedly i know terrorist and/or im in contact with terrorist yet im a pilot (part of national security). Its a joke.
Would age really be a significant factor to start out in these fields?
Yea there goes my hope my anxiety will get the best of me lmao 🤣
Master DOUBLETHINK. As George on Seinfeld said... if you believe it, it is not a lie. :D
I'm about to take it today 😂☺️☺️
How did you do?
@@nini122ss went well . They do ask ab
They're nothing here but guessing, innuendos, and speculation regarding the polygraph. As a general rule, it's inadmissible in criminal court. The guessing starts on the reason why. It's not for accuracy. It's because there's no certification to become a technician. Anyone can purchase the equipment and give tests. Our community college offers a 3-credit course in polygraph. The teenagers completing this course think they can give tests. Nothing could be more wrong. All law enforcement technicians attend a 12-week curriculum in polygraph at an army base in Alabama. You have to have a bachelor's degree to apply. When you complete this course, you are a poly tech. The FBI, CIA, Marshal's Service, US Secret Service, ATF, DEA, and other premier agencies use the poly to screen applicants. I see certain posters here think they know more than these premier agencies. That's why some applicants sit on the outside looking in.
What about expungements
On my SF86 I said that I smoked marijuana in college from August 2018- December 2018. But I forgot to put that I smoked in 2015 as well. What should I do?
I already submitted the form and my test is approaching
@@charleswatson4450 how did it go
@@swagermlgpro still haven’t taken the test yet.
@@charleswatson4450 oh, good luck though!
@@swagermlgpro thank you very much
I stole a couple bags of chips from work am I gonna be ok
So did I
What kind of firearms are being used by the dea?
Glocks are issued and Rock River 5.56 rifles but agents can buy their own weapons from an approved list of calibers and manufacturers. I will do one on the firearms qual standards, which just about everyone will be able to pass.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900
What models of Glock? Lots of flavor of Glocks.
@@mgallager1449 The Glock 17 is now issued to all new agents. 10 years ago, it was the .40 cal model, but they have gone back and adopted the 17 as standard issue once again. Having said that, you can and should buy your weapons once you are out of the academy and give the gov their gun back. You will be allowed to carry any Glock, Sig, Smith or Beretta in 9mm, 10mm, .40 or .45. No.380s. They also allow .38 and .357 revolvers. No Clint Eastwood .44s. I should do a video on this.
Is it normal to have one of these at the tail end of the process? Done everything else, and have an exam in the next few days.
On the sheriff's office, it was one of the last things. I think DEA does their test before the BI so that if there are admissions or the applicant fails, then they dont have to do the BI.
@@federallawenforcementcaree9900 yeah, a BI hasnt been started as of current that im aware of. Completed medical and psych already, i just found it odd they didn't have me do the polygraph before doing those two.
It's not just normal, it's essential. If you had no skin in the game, nothing to lose, took one the day you first applied, you wouldn't care if you passed or failed. You'd relax and pass easily. They want and need you to feel like you're invested. They want you to be afraid of not passing and losing all the time you have invested.
@@hifiandrew I can understand the thinking behind it. I have to take a follow up, I told them the truth during the first one. As far as the job would it be nice to get hired? Yeah obv, but at the end of the day if they go with someone else or don't hire me or anyone at all thats their decision. I'm not the one who has to go in front congress and explain why they can't hire enough people, and put a dent in the fentanyl crisis.
Unfortunately, yes. Sometimes they hide the fact that this is part of the process until you've already invested a bunch of time into the process. It's an unethical bait and switch. If this happens, tell them to eff off, and walk away, then file a lawsuit for fraud.
Polygraph are junk even if you’re honest.
I can sit any polygroah exam as long as the offcier I trust are controlling it
Thank you!
What about the support jobs?? I see now a lot of photogs getting hired? They don’t require a 4 year degree but do require experience! What are these jobs like? Do they get to do the fun out I. The field stuff or is it all back at HQ??
Thank you!! I’m learning a lot from your videos. Always wanted to work for the feds but went the broadcast path and now see these openings!
If you’re truthful about anabolic steroid use would that disqualify you?
Lmao imma walk into my poly Trenned out fuck the bullshit
What a sweetheart❤
Unless that changed last year I believe it.
what are examples of automatic disqualification questions and answers? From the shows it sounds like all of them. I was hoping you could separate fact from fiction?
Murder is pretty bad.
Any question that you react to in an unexplained way will end up with a fail, even if it's your name and they can verify by dna and fingerprints you aren't lying.
I'm completing my PHS waiver to be a police cadet and I've smoked tobacco that's the only thing I've used a few times and it asks if I've used drugs like Marijuana and such should I list that as I've used a drug or should I list no?
They typically don't care about that sort of stuff.
Glad to hear some honest opinion
What type of personality would be the perfect fit for DSS?
Probably the personality type that doesn't mind constant change and sacrificing your personal life. You'll be away for long periods of time and moving a lot at moments notice.
@@jamesmerone As long as there's motivation on your part and the support of your family you'll be ok.
@@leonalfaro082974 Of course. Easier said than done as the expression goes. A spouse will say this, then your DSS job makes you miss a anniversary, a baby birth, a birthday, then the motivation dwindles. A lot of people can't handle it when they're actually going through it.
@@jamesmerone I've been there done that. Not only DS, DHS takes a toll on the family also.
If you are willing to work overseas and not be in your homeland for years and are willing to live in the Lagos of the world then go with DSS.
Any idea what the turn around time is on polygraph results? Had one recently and wasn't told pass or fail.
I tell people don’t ask me if you pass the test or not, because you will know before I do whether or not you lied or withheld information.
@@sueluttrell9637 I didnt withold anything on my second one. Examiner accused me of undetected criminal behavior (I dont have any criminal behavior, told them about minor mj usage in undergrad years ago that was it) the head of the unit, ruled the test as "countermeasures", which I wasn't accused of during the test. So I got two different conclusions.
As far as the test itself, it was apparent to me that its a test to screw with an examinee. The examiner tried playing the same games with me I would play with offenders when I was trying to get the full story from them when I worked in a previous job dealing with that particular demographic.
They never tell you that you passed. If a week goes by and they haven't called to schedule a follow up, then you passed.
@@sueluttrell9637 LMBO! You're clearly an examiner. You better than anyone knows it's bullshit. The whole purpose is to try to get people to open up. But some people can not stop their minds from imagining things and getting a fear reaction...and even if they explain it to you, it keeps triggering because a 10 page list of exceptions doesn't stop it. Quit and find a real job you sociopath.
@@eventhisidistaken yeah thats not the case, had a follow up 5 months later. Told the guy off (didn't use any foul language), when he tried the baseless accusations route. Needless to say he was shocked, and probably wasn't expecting an examinee to get angry with him. Got a lengthy response from the supervisor after I challenged the ruling, and was told I could reapply in X years, and told them I had no intention of doing so.
You fear the test for two reasons .
1 your guilty of crime
2. Your. Not guilty of crime or fear the polygroah examiners who you don't trust Intuitiy
Or 3, the entire Polygraph test is a nerve racking ordeal that can make anyone nervous even if they are 100% innocent. And nervousness tends to affect the results and create false positives.
Sociopaths, psychopaths and serial killers have all easily passed that Polygraph bullshit, because of their lack or remorse, and emotional responses, so that first point about being guilty is complete bullshit, and the examiner would have no way of knowing regardless, anyway.
Polygraph testing can't actually detect lies, only certain physiological responses that are often believed to be associated with lying, thing is, these physiological responses can also occur due to literally anything, so, yeah.
Poor ladies eye liner is above her eye liner
Because they can't get it up during a poly
This guy looks like he was shaking down drug dealers in the 1970’s!!
US MARSHALS DONT USE THIS!! ANY AGENCY THAT USES THIS IS STUPID.
thanks brother
So would consuming alcohol underage be a disqualification?
Most likely not in any agency I know of. Most public intoxication to a point where things escalated and law enforcement was involved might get you second looks
No
Let’s have a video on the Postal Inspection Service and state DOJ Special Agents!
Will do.
Can a polygraph test work on reincarnations ?? I asked this question because i truly believe that it can also work on reincarnations not just truth or lie on a poly test.
Since they don't even work in incarnations, the answer is no.
El Paso weather is El Paso weather.
I like El Paso
POLYGRAPHER TELLS ME IN MY FACE, YOU WERE HONEST AND YOU PASSED THE TEST, 10 MINS LATER, HE USHERS ME INTO THE SAME ROOM AND ASK ME, DID YOU USE COUNTERMEASURES, I SAID, I DIDN'T MOVE AT ALL AND I DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU TOLD ME TO DO. THEN I CHECK MY EMAIL AT HOME AND THE AGENCY STATED THAT I USED COUNTERMEASURES. THESE PEOPLE CRACK ME UP
Especially border patrol. I know dude had to have been hella racist 😂 just being honest
@@cpolo88 POLY TEST IS BS BRO. HOW CAN HE TELL ME IN MY FACE I PASSED AND I WAS HONEST TO THEN BS ME AND AGENCY FAIL ME. INSANE TRUE STORY
@@cpolo88 THE LIARS ARE ACCUSING US OF LYING THE IRONY
I’m about to take cbp poly in the next few weeks. The sentiment I’m getting about polygraph exams is really it’s about whether or not they like you as an individual
@@oahts5906 EXACTLY, SPOT ON, I STILL CANT BELIEVE HE TOLD ME I PASSED IN MY FACE AND 15 MINS LATER TOLD ME I LIED, INCREDIBLE
I am Tax Free already since December 2012
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questionable but funny title 😂😂
Should do polygraph on Cpt Gucherio and 1sgt Kevin Armstrong OIF6 C Co 1/327 Infantry 101st ABN Division Ft Campbell Kevin Armstrong is Retired SGM and Commander of CVMA gang in Clarksville TN. Cpt Gucherio and 1sgt Kevin Armstrong setup my platoon to get attacked by our personal trained Iraqi SWAT team my platoon trained, I called setup before leaving briefing area told my whole squad of 9. Iraqi SWAT team was given 15-20 on the objective before we got there, we waited at the Iraqi police station and the Iraqi SWAT team continue to Objective to the Play ground. With BBC News reporters video taping the Fake night cache hunt on the play ground...A American M-67 hand grenade bounce off my turret shield and landed on platoon on-line which New PSG SSG Richards White Lighted the American M-67 hand grenade (Pin was pulled but Spoon Safety was still On). SSG Richards Identified by asking over platoon net " Did someone drop a Grenade?" Then In front of our MRAP as SSG Ramos was ground guiding infront of us a grenade blew up on him. During the AAR After Action Review, SSG Ramos wasn't there because he Ate 💥 the other American M-67 hand grenade but survived. I waited till all the Chain of Command was focused on me. SSG Rabe asked why didn't I(I loaded a M203 High Explosive Dual Purpose HEDP Rd, I didn't shoot LOOM parachute or Star Cluster because of troops in the open also SSG Rabe leader of the MRAPs told our 2 MRAPs on left side to backup and move behind him) shoot? Literally when like this "👆🏻 #1 I didn't have PID(Positive Identification) ✌🏻#2 WHERE THE FUCK WAS OUR IRAQI SWAT TEAM AT? I DIDN'T SEE THEM THE WHOLE MISSION?" Everyone got quiet and left the area. I got sent to a place where a soldier saw to much combat for a weekend. Then next time my squad leader SSG Ramos and I was at FOB Speicher, he bought me a Tactical Trunk Monkey patch for that specific mission and no one else got anything.
the title of this is sort of racist
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