SoCal's Inconveniently Scenic Topography - Metrolink from San Gabriel Valley to Orange County
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 พ.ย. 2023
- Where driving is too hard, taking a bus is too inconvenient, and taking a train is a long distance journey through four counties...
More on the Riverside line in this video: • Transit-Assisted Bicyc...
Pomona station review: • Amtrak Sunset Limited ...
Shout out to @alexanderrotmensz for dreaming of a Metro system map that addresses the transit gap between the SGV and OC
All soundtracks produced by DJ Petesake
Funk X Nature music video by @LSOB1990 filmed at Riverside Metrolink station: • Lighter Shade of Brown...
Ticket prices are also determined by how much each county pays for the service.
I knew there was witchcraft involved
One important thing to remember is that Metrolink, Coaster, Sprinter, and Arrow let you roll your bicycle or e-bike onto the train, with no advance notice, extra charge or even making you lift your bike onto a front-mounted bike rack. My e-bike can't even be carried on a bus bike rack.
Yes, and bus racks running out of space is an issue too.
Just fold it and keep it with you
Is that special or something? If it is, that's absurd.
WE NEED MORE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN REGIONS AND COUNTIES 🗣️ I live in the SGV!!
It's funny how in a city seemingly centered around cars, it's more pleasant and convenient to take transit (Although i still hope you get that predicted metro line) thanks!
If only it were cheaper
@@IvanSNMetrolink is kind of expensive, but all the local transit agencies are pretty darned cheap. Especially LA Metro. The A Train from Long Beach to Azusa is $1.75 for a 48 mile long trip, with a free transfer to a bus at the end.
I would point out that the rail lines pre-date the freeways and historically, Pacific Electric offered Thruway service between Pomona and Newport Beach via Anaheim. I think Long Term, there is the possibility of a BRT between Cal State Long Beach and SGV.
You see, Metrolink only provides train service, not customer service.
Also if you had asked the conductor on your arriving train, he probably could have radioed the conductor on the zero-minute transfer train to hold it 30 seconds. They're pretty nice.
16 miles by bus will take about 2 hours, since local bus service averages about 8 MPH. So even riding four times further by train will turn out to be about as fast.
Sad
As painful as transit in Southern California can be I still love taking it on weekend trips
It's hard to complain about a $10 day pass for the amount of distance you can go.
You lucky guy, living down there with all those mountains and trains! -- charlie, sacrughmento
City of 💥INDUSTRY! 💥
That had me dying.
I did a train tourism bit a month ago myself: Ontario airport>van shuttle>SB MetroLink>Arrow>Inland Empire>Riverside>LA Union Station. I paid for one ticket from Rancho Cucamonga to Redlands University & a second from Redlands to LA Union Station, intended to be used on the S/B line, so the conductor on the IE train was confused why I had such a ticket while on the IE LOL. The schedule is terrible as I had a short connection in SB before a w hour wait in Riverside where there’s NOTHING to do for that time! I appreciate the service but it’s not really useful for the multitude
I hate the way the Metrolink is scheduled with weird long gaps without also having things to do nearby. I grew up on the SB line, especially the Rancho Cucamonga station: its so frustrating that there's a bustling shopping/restaurant area just a few blocks down, but the buses are so poorly-timed and the walk is just sliiiightly too long that you can't actually spend your wait there.
And now my new closest station's (El Monte) connecting bus is designed to arrive 5 minutes AFTER both trains have left (WHY). Yet there's also nothing to do in the area, and not even enough seats to wait. So you're just awkwardly standing there on a concrete island for a whole hour.
your route to the OC via Riverside wasnt meant to connect to the IEOC Line. Thats probably another reason why the price from Pedley is different to go through Los Angeles.
Nice to see two foreign locomotives ( Norfolk Southern ) leading a Union Pacific Z train.
Industry needs a Puente Hills station on Azusa and Gale. 3 Foothill Transit lines pass by there. About 10 Foothill Transit lines stop at Puente Hills Mall. It's a shell of it once was. Make the mall into a TOD CENTER and build a Monorail loop from Rio Vista Golf Course along Colima to the mall over the freeway to proposed station to along Gale to Fairway and back around. There's tons of shopping, places to eat a medical buildings too.
But hey that mall has a Guitar Center now
@goldenstatedepartures actually it's not inside the mall. It's around the mall. The inside of the mall is hurting really bad. Business around the massive parking lot thriving like Pandera, Applebee's, Buffalo Wild Wings, Rasinin' Canes, Krispy Kreme, Jimmy John's, Crumble, Chipotle, Benedict, Jamba Juice. AMC, ROUND1 and Burlington are busy but they all got entrances on the outside. No one really wanders inside. Bath and Bodyworks and 5 Below open across the street on Colima. Jersey Mike's is going to open also across the street too.
Mall needs to be gutted and remodeled so businesses can move back inside and made in a TOD ENVIRONMENT WORK, LIVE AND PLAY.
3 to 5 stories complexes living and even a hotel around the mall.
Well I got that much from his other video to the mall
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For some reason, Riverside Line is the only line that has the most limited service and it doesn’t operate on weekends
In many ways it is duplicated by the San Bernardino line, just a few miles north, and the 91 line. Unlike the San Bernardino line, all the middle stations are pretty much just park and rides with nothing nearby and poor bus connections, and on the weekends you can take the 91 if you start in Riverside.
Because the line is still owned by Union Pacific and Metrolink (SCRRA) only has the four slots on it. Metrolink (through Metro and SBCTA) owns the San Bernardino Line entirely.
@@Geotpfmaybe the riverside line should be dropped
@@qjtvaddictNo, it still has good commuter ridership, and is faster than the 91 route through Orange County. Just not enough weekend demand, and for weekend Riverside Downtown to Union Station demand taking the slightly slower 91 route is fine.
Hey, great vid! Resident of El Monte here, taken the Metrolink to Claremont, Orange, Oceanside and DTLA a couple of times, just for fun in the downtowns really and shoot some train footage... Pretty cool seeing you shed some light on the LA regional rail, not too much is said about SGV by anyone, but whatever lol. Have fun out there
Obviously they don't expect anybody to make this particular journey because of how far out of the way you have to go.
I managed to take public transit from the South Bay of L.A. County all the way to Palm Springs on a Sunday a few years ago. It was tough to figure out, but I came up with a solution.
Getting from my house to DTLA is not hard, because I live a block from a frequent bus line that goes straight to the nearest station on the Metro C (Green) line. That can get me to the A (Blue) line at Willowbrook/Rosa Parks Station, but it's faster to go to the Harbor Freeway station and take the Metro freeway bus (J line). Back then, there was a 50 cent surcharge for the bus, but because the A line stopped well before Union Station, I would have had to transfer to one of the subway lines. Whereas the bus goes to Union Station, before getting back on the freeway to head to El Monte. Since June of this year, the Regional Connector makes it possible to take the A line all the way through downtown, with a stop in Union Station, before continuing on to the SGV. (That would be my route if I go to the Rose Parade next year.) So the day I went to Palm Springs, I took the freeway bus to Union Station.
From Union Station, I took an Amtrak train to Fullerton; I recognized that station in your video, but didn't have to cross the tracks. I wanted to drive to Fullerton Station and take Amtrak from there. However, the deal was that the Amtrak BUS goes from Fullerton to the airport in Palm Springs. But Amtrak does not let you take only their bus; at least one segment of your trip has to include their train. There's an Amtrak train that stops at Palm Springs, but the train station is a bleak platform out in the desert, with a basic shelter and a parking lot. The train schedule was not suitable for my journey, either. So I took the bus. From the airport, I could have taken a municipal bus to my destination in Rancho Mirage, but because of Sunday bus schedules, and the fact it was March and actually raining in Palm Springs, I called my family to come pick me up from Rancho Mirage, where they were attending an event using our other car.
There was a commuter bus from Palm Springs to the Inland Empire. Nice... except it didn't run on Sundays. I also checked out Greyhound bus, but their DTLA bus station is in an inconvenient location. I think the schedule frequency was an issue, too. As it was, I had a fun adventure, and didn't have to drive to Palm Springs. It was cheap, too. Today, I believe that same trip could be done for less than $20, which is less than the cost of gas if I drove.
Interesting! I've been wondering how I'd get to Palm Springs, and of course, the Sunset Limited is late night both directions, and only a few days a week. I'll have to look into that bus from Fullerton if it still exists.
live in Fullerton, take the train +bike to/from Glendale every weekday. the system isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing by a ton
God Bless you man @ 1:32 I laughed so much that I pissed my pants!!! 😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the shout man. This is an awesome video!
And lmao Imma start calling the station announcement guy Stephen Hawking too that was too funny
Great vibes on this video, inspiring me, as things do from time to time, to make my own transit vlogs
Woo shoutout SGV! 🎉
The entire issue with the Metrolink as a whole is that it's meant to be a commuter train. It's only really effective for people who work 9 to 5, Mon to Fri .
The ARROW Line should continue east from Redlands to Indio or Thermal. And west extension to Rancho Cucamonga BRIGHTLINE. Personally, I would love to see stations in Yucaipa, Crafton College, Calimesa, West Beaumont, San Gorgonio Hospital, East Beaumont, Cabazon, Palm Springs including one next to the airport, Thousand Palms, Palm Desert, Indio Coachella and Thermal. People from the High Desert and Las Vegas can have ez access to the Coachella Valley and everything it offers. Besides Casinos, Resorts and Spas. There's concerts and festivals all year long. Racing in Thermal. CV FIREBIRDS HOCKEY. Maybe other minor league teams will set up shop in the Coachella Valley too.
SCORE from Metrolink should improve access. Coachella Valley voters need to demand it just like Canta Clarita Valley voters did.
Weekends vacations or even during the week for people who work weekends. Tourists will have access to weekday specials at Resorts and Spas.
I can't wait until they open their giant bike trail network .
The Palm Springs airport sometimes has deals that are better than ONT
@@MStonewallC that's a huge advantage
SGV mentioned, instantly subscribed
Love the video! Keep em coming! Great combination of nerdiness at Cool SoCal vibes
I wonder if you could have made the 0 min transfer had you carried the bike up the stairs instead of waiting for elevators. That's what I typically do when time is tight.
This is a fun and enjoyable video to watch. However, for people viewing this please remember the "Metrolink" train is not for mass transit (like a bus line, subway line, or light rial line) it is a commuter train system for taking people on workdays in the morning from suburbia to a major employment center such as downtown Los Angeles and returning them in the evening back to their home communities. In the 1990's, I used to take "Metrolink" about two (2) or three (3) times per week from the Norwalk station to my office near Santa Ana (smile...smile).
Stop making excuses
Love your content keep it up new sub here 🎉
Hawking lives! Now featured on Metro!
Well, either I just want to give up and suffer with the hopeless mess that is transit in SoCal. Or I can laugh at the absurdity of it all. LA is the best place to watch your train leave without you.
Me being in Whittier wanting to visit the SGV is always a nightmare.
Scenery is never inconvenient
I live in Fullerton I am less than a mile away from the trains station.
You’re hilarious!
Dude is the most Californian person I could imagine
WHY did you go Up and then across and Down using two Lifts (elevators)??
You would have easily made your connection if you had Ran up the stairs, across, and ran down the stairs on the other platform.
The time it takes for the Lift to go up or down is Greater than the time it takes to do the platform change by FOOT... :)
How does he do that while hoisting bicycle seen at 5:05?
@@goldenstatedepartures Pick it up and Carry it up the stairs, roll or continue carrying across the footbridge, and then carry down the stairs on the relevant platform. A million people do it with their bicycles commuting in London or Paris or Amsterdam or etc... every day. ;)
Someone should have a word with the TOC (train operating company)... there should be at least a 2 to 3 minute difference between the arrival of the East Bound and the departure of the West Bound services. (I use the word services 'lightly'... because an actual service is measured in more than 10tph (trains per hour - off peak). :)
I did that with luggage. I barely made it. 😂
@@MetroChamp The SAME time departure should be scheduled to be a minimum of one minute after the arrival of the same time arrival. In Real TIME, the departing train driver should watch to ensure everyone has boarded from the other train(s) before setting off. It is how 'connected' transport functions at low frequency stations in other parts of the world.
A ten or even fifteen minute delay in departure can easily be made up by the trains. The operate day to day to time tables at only 50 to 80% of maximum speed. When see departs at 0700 and arrives at 0730... the train can make the journey in under 20 minutes. Time tables are 'Padded' to give the illusion of arriving on-time!
@@DrMJT Southern California agencies aren't serious about providing the service.
When was this filmed? Great vid too!
For train identification purposes, November 22, 2023. But in reality, it was filmed on multiple days.
I actually made that zero minute transfer once.
Nice!
is Industry station? It looks different from my memory.
I live 45 minutes walking distance.
I used to work in Diamond bar. I walked by this station almost everyday.
I have not come to station for year. Its much easier to take bus.
Going to Orange county is pain.
Google recommends taking bus. Many people advice me taking buses.
I decided to take bus to union Station n took metrolink n bus to a Dr clinic at Fullerton. Wait, the bus at Fullerton station, twice i walked 3 to 4 miles to dr clinic. I chose this route to prove how screw up the train system is.
My appointment was 2 30pm. I didn't want to walk 45 minutes. Plus there was no schedule train after 8 am. I left my house around 10 am.
Why do i have to go to downtown to go to Fullerton.
Couple years later , i tried again Santa Ana. I was able to get dial a ride to catch 6 something. Then transfer train to Santa Ana. The bus is terrible. It dropped somewhere in Santa Ana . I walked 20 minutes to my company at Santa Ana. I got to work at 10am.
I switched back to uber.
8 years ago, i got a job near Angel Stadium.
I took uber.
Every Friday, i took bus home.
Oc53, foothill 286 take me some place 4.3 miles from my home.
I could walk along Grand which is not easy walk at night.
I could take 2 buses. Less walk n more torture on waiting buses.
I usually pick last option. Take one bus n walked 50 minutes n passed by metrolink industry station to get home.
Going to OC is pain. Before the pain, i have to deal another pain .
Oh, the metrolink is totally useless
Why were NS locos on the front of that freight train?
Sometimes railroads borrow power from others
Well connected trains in Japan where over 80% made up of uninhabitable mountains. High speed trains tunning through mountains.
Or even Switzerland being mountainous and having a lot of trains.
This guy’s cool lol
LOL Cinéma vérité
This channel needs a warning label.... Dude, 'get stoned. before watching'....
California is such a weird place. Just about everyone lives in car dependent exurbs and gets around exclusively with their car. But they have regional trains. Unlike so many parts of the US, they actually have regional trains, but it's like they couldn't care less about them. In a world that made any sense MetroLink would get piles of cash dumped on them to electrify their lines, quadruple their service, and make their stations really easy to access by foot. But instead they're just neglected and they don't realize how lucky they are to have the opportunity to create a really good regional rail service.
Indeed. I wanted to see the redwoods when I visited San Francisco, theres a bus that takes you from a ferry terminal directly to the national park, and a ferry that takes you from Downton San Fran across the bay. But guess what, the bus only runs on weekends, and the ferry only weekdays. You're expected to drive a car over the bridge, park at the ferry terminal and then take the bus the last bit - why!? It was so idiotic it can only be intentional.
Dude there’s a rapid bus called 286
Something tells me you didn't make it as far as 1:20
scenery being scenic is not capable of being incovenient
Why not combine all metrolink, amtrak and la metro companies altpgether? And make us able to take the light rail straight to San Bernardo and to redland like pacific electric once did? Stupid!
Really don't need you sticking your face in the camera....
Thanks for the feedback- whoops, I forgot to switch the field of view back to medium in a few shots