eZip Trailz Commuter Review - $1k
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ม.ค. 2014
- The eZip Trailz Commuter is an affordable entry level electric bike with a unique side-mounted chain drive motor that can make truing wheels, replacing tires and fixing flats more difficult. Offers seat post shock, suspension fork, fenders, chain guard and ergonomic grips for comfort. Less powerful 25.6 volt battery, rear heavy design, entry level components all around.
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I own this obsolete bike,it's been 14yr now love it.
Great reviews; keep up the good work!
Thanks Kung! I'm glad you've enjoyed them. Lots more to come and I'm working to get the audio better ;)
That's a great review. Well done and nice bike.
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. There are more details for this and other ebikes I've checked out at electricbikereview.com/ezip/trailz-commuter/
@@ElectricBikeReview How many volts is the battery 24v. or 36v. I'm looking online for the battery and charger. Some on ebay.I took pitchers of the ezip ebike and the battery inputs where you put the batteries. Before I purchase the batteries I want to make sure it fits and works. Because the way my ezip battery mount looks the shape on both ends looks different from the battery they selling on ebay. Mines has a circle shape on both sides or ends.And the ones they selling on ebay is all square or rectangular.But I hope it fits and works ?? If I can show you a pitcher of the ebike I have let me know ??
Excellent point A to B bike. The weight makes it a tough bike. Replacement batteries sell for $39 on eBay. Love this bike.
Really excellent job on the review = A + job
Thanks Jason! I did this one a while back but always try my best and have been getting better audio and ride shots with the newer reviews. If you get this bike I hope it works well for you, feel free to share your experience or ask questions in the forum electricbikereview.com/community/
I have one of these and recommend it. There are battery hacks you can do, but I haven't tried that yet.
Is this comparable to a X-treme Trail Maker?
With the low speed of the bike, I could easily see a good range. The power needed goes up exponentially with speed. About 80-100 watts at 10mph, 350 at 20mph, a 1000 at 30mph and so on. With the 245.6WH battery, a 140-150lb rider should be able to go about 30 miles on twist so long as you stay at or below 10mph with no hills or wind. I am surprised they have it setup to sit straight up which will lower you range. They should have made an option to go low and be more streamlined.
Interesting point, a more aggressive seating position would definitely improve aerodynamics above 20 mph but in the 10 to 15 mph that you're talking about I think it makes minimal difference and the ergonomics of being bent over (for most riders) aren't worth the trade off, I like that they included a softer saddle and suspension fork to soften things up :)
hi why do my new batteries ina new container only last 2 miles at most, the electrical and motor works and its a new charger and the batteries are hooked up correctly in tthe container
Well... Apparently ezip is out of business. The back mounted motor seems like a good idea, less chain stress on the short two gear setup vs mid mount pulling on the long chain, the derailleur, and the chain while also switching gears which is probably the most stress. I mean I can make the chain skip and jump teeth while shifting just by pedaling hard. But why haven't I seen any other bikes setup like that?
can the battery take it off and charge instead of sealed on the bike?
(sorry for my bad english)
Yes, I believe this battery pack can be removed easily and will charge on or off the frame. Note however, this ebike is no longer for sale new (except possibly online or used at some shops). If you are on a budget, there are bunch of newer electric bikes which are also affordable here: electricbikereview.com/tag/affordable/
This bike is at the
Threft Store but where do you charge it.I see the battery ??
Any major bike service or on line.chargers are not expensive.make sure you get the right kind.
Charging port is under the handle,circle 3 little holes inside the circle.
how would I get a review on alpine 300 off ebay?
how to make rear motor installation plate...and which metal it is used
They sell the motor plate for $9.95 + S&H but as of this date 01-17-18 they are currently out of stock but you can have a notice sent to your email when it's available..
You can also get all the other eZip Trailz genuine parts to build your own eZip Trailz but you have to use your own bike.
electricscooterparts.com/eziptrailzmenselectricbicycleparts.html
nice hat !! Polar Vortex?:))
Thanks! It's a North Face visor beanie I got years ago when I worked at REI. I like the visor because sometimes it hurts to wear sunglasses with a beanie but then it gets too bright :)
Is the baterry and the motor water proof?
Hi Alvin, they design the bike to be water resistant but it's definitely not water proof. If submerged or even driven through deep water that covers the motor it will break. The battery and connectors like the throttle are also sensitive. I try to park my ebikes inside and cover sensitive parts with plastic bags if it rains and the bike is locked up outside.
i look for 3 or 4 wells for old focs
Just out of curiosity, is there any way to have NO assist whatsoever?
Yeah, if I understand your question correctly, are you just wanting to be able to ride the bike normally with no assist at all? This bike really has three ways to ride as follows:
1. Leave the bike off and pedal like normal, choose from one of seven gears (all on the rear cassette) one is a large gear that helps you to climb hills more easily. You could even remove the battery pack to make the bike extra light! The pack weighs 5 lbs.
2. Turn the battery on and select the pedal assist mode (PAS) and now when you pedal the bike it activates the motor at 50% to help you out. It makes pedaling easier and will help you up hills but you have to keep pedaling for the motor to run.
3. Turn the battery on and select the twist and go mode (TAG) and now when you twist the throttle on the right grip the motor will activate from 0% to 100% depending on how far you twist. In this mode you don't have to pedal at all!
As a side note, you can also twist the throttle while you are in pedal assist mode and instead of just getting 50% assist it will go up to 100% for more power. In all electric modes, the motor can really only get the bike up to ~15 miles per hour. In the USA the legal limit for ebikes is 20 miles per hour in throttle mode and 28 in pedal assist mode :)
Thanks for the help...I only have one more question I've had for a long time. WHY is the speed for an e-bike regulated, or restricted to a certain speed? I hope you can answer this, but if not, could you tell me who could? Thanks, again.
Taggerung Sure, the speed is regulated in order to help it classify as a bicycle instead of a scooter, moped or other vehicle which would require a drivers license and insurance. By keeping the speed < or = 20 mph in twist throttle mode and < or = 28 mph in pedal assist mode it stays as a bike! The laws are different in Europe, I believe they sometimes limit to 15 mph and their motor sizes can only be up to 250 watts vs. 750 in the USA :)
Ok, I see. Thanks, AGAIN! That question has been bothering me for a LONG time!
To me it's really all about how it pulls hills. Which you didn't mention.
Hey Paul, I've had mixed experiences with hill climbing on the Trailz. It works well enough but these days mid-drives offer superior torque by leveraging the drivetrain (depending on how many gears the bike has etc.) so I've kind of had to adjust and try to communicate strengths without over communicating them. It's a solid bike, do you own this one or have you just tried it?
Electric Bike Review Thank you fr replying. We are thinking about buying bikes again. Never have tried electric and have only been very casual riders. Older and living in Seattle, it is the going uphill where we need the help ; )
Paul West Depending on your budget and preference for frame style (upright cruiser, functional city or aggressive off-road) there are lots of different bikes to explore. Have you seen the categories listed on the homepage of the site, they might help you narrow down your options: electricbikereview.com/#bikes
It's easy to look down on this bike, but I ran across a guy that commutes almost 40 miles a day on one of these.
Wow, that's pretty awesome! Do you know how long he has owned the bike, did it look newer or older? I love that you can put two pack on for extended range and the newer eZip Trailz Commuter models have Lithium-ion batteries so that helps with the range: electricbikereview.com/ezip/trailz-commuter/
He told me he's had it for about 2 years, and he was happy with it. It looked well used.
BiknutProductions Nice, you reminded me of a time in Austin, TX when I saw an eZip Trailz for sale in someone's Yard. This bike looked like it had been through some kind of war or something but it still ran and the owner was just gleaming with how well it had worked for them... Was kind of amazing ;)
ElectricBikeReview.com I have a couple of Currie's scooters that I bought about 15 years ago. I recently had to replace the 2 SLA batteries ($45 for both) in each scooter and that's the only maintenance I've needed. Being scooters, I have probably never gone more than 5 miles at one time on them but they'll climb pretty steep hills easily and go a little over 10 mph. Here's what they look like: www.electricscooterparts.com/images3/curriescootescooter.jpg
Currie is a pioneer in this industry and I have high regard for the performance of their product. That's why I'm checking out their bikes before I buy something. I did discover they don't have a communication channel, though and want you to contact a dealer for everything. That doesn't sit well with me.
rapskallion With a company as large as they are it can be challenging to field every call but they actually do a very good job compared to some of the other large brands. They have a dedicated team that provides support online and via phone and their CEO has even dropped by on my forums to answer questions directly! Here's his profile page (note that he travels internationally a lot and may not respond instantly): electricbikereview.com/community/members/larry-pizzi.136/
What's the price range for this bike?
This one goes for ~$1,000. The price is listed in the full review which is linked in the comments above (and for all of the videos I post) electricbikereview.com/ezip/trailz-commuter/
Would you transportize your kids on a e bike ?
Well, I don't have kids but I do have a younger sister! I used to pull her around in a bike trailer and they do have electric bike trailers now! www.ridekick.com/kids/
Of course there is always the front car-seat style rack from Yepp that is very popular and there is also a small sized ebike from Pedego that could work when they get older electricbikereview.com/pedego/24-cruiser/
I think it depends on how comfortable you are as a rider. The handle bar mount seat thing could be dangerous if you crash whereas the trailer is pretty stable. If there is a lot of traffic where you live that is also something to consider if they are riding on their own. Hope this helps!
I JUST CHANGED THAT BACK TIRE ON ONE of these today am
d yeah what a nightmare
When you add insurance + chance of an accident. Which if you have one your putting your hand in your pocket big time. Plus gasoline. Plus, cops. Plus the time lost in travel. Plus stress. Plus price of car. Plus repairs. You subtract that from an 18 dollar an hour job. Your better served working in a gas station or pet shop 5 blocks from your house. Than you ever will be driving 15 to 20 miles to career job. Such??....is the state of our roads, accidents, and drivers today.
Donde comprar las baterias
If u go to heartlandamerica.com they have a electric bike for 500 that goes 27 miles per charge 18 miles per hour and its in hub motor insted of external also the bike u have is louder than in hub would u recommend it or what bike would u recommend (under 600)
Cool, thanks for the heads up Wayne. I've never seen this bike before but will keep an eye out for it and do a review someday if the opportunity arises. Do you know if they offer a warranty or service? Sometimes it's nice to get battery replacements as well so it would be cool if they sold those. That's one of the things I like about Currie, they sell battery upgrades right through Amazon: amzn.to/1rh2isC if you do get the Heartland America ebike I'd love to hear how it rides! Maybe you can post about it in the forums: electricbikereview.com/community/
When I get it I will be sure to message u on how it rides and let u make a video of it if ur not to far
Wayne Rhea Awesome! I'm currently in Colorado but do travel around pretty often. Maybe I'll be in your area at some point :)
Good ebike
It's not too bad, especially for the price and quality support that eZip / Currie Technologies offers.
Power is what matters, not voltage. You could make a very powerful motor that runs on 24V. What is so disappointing is the battery and price. This thing should cost $250 tops. It's low end and not very pretty and uses typical dept store sizes.
But what about this seat shock? I've never ridden a bike with a seat post shock and I would really be concerned with hip/knee problems. The distance between the seat and pedals shouldn't change, if you bounce, you go to low and on the way back up, you will go higher and cause hip pain. I suppose if you are willing to drive around with the seat too low, it might work, but you won't be using your legs as efficiently as you could. That front fork is going to seize up in 6 months of riding (assuming you ride it every day, like to work). Batteries have been a problem for 100 years and you never really make up the up front cost because good batteries are expensive.
Thanks for the input, could you please help me understand where battery Voltage plays a role? I was under the impression that a high wattage motor would perform best when paired with a higher voltage battery ie. 350 watt motor + 36 volt battery is right on and then a 500 watt motor + 48 volt battery is also a good match. I've never seen a 500 watt motor with a 24 volt battery running it and so I've been lead to believe that higher voltage is not only more efficient at transferring electricity but also offers more power... I suppose current also plays a role. learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/voltage-current-resistance-and-ohms-law#voltage
ElectricBikeReview.com The higher the voltage the faster the motor spins, the higher the wattage of the motor the more it will handle the developing heat from the high voltage and current.
Everton Burrell Awesome, thanks for the clarity Everton :)
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Actually the voltage of the battery doesn't really matter because a controller could adjust that. But the thinner wire means more winding and a faster moving wheel and less heat like Everton Burrell mentioned. I didn't see your initial reply to me, sorry it took so long to get back. Maybe you could answer me a question: Why do the internally geared hubs use plastic gears? I can't think of a dumber thing to do. Metal gears would only slightly increase the weight while making the motor last a lot longer. Further, metal gears are EVERYWHERE, cheap with over 100 years of manufacturing in high quantity/quality. Hundreds of millions of transmissions and differentials are made every single year and that's just automotive. They are all over the place in manufacturing. There are whole industries built around metal gears. Even (standard) internally geared hubs for bicycles use metal gears:)
It is even more cheaper to use plastic. If they use metal the motor would not break easily, resulting in less people replacing, companies making less profit.
Why pay 1000 for that when the lead acid batteries one cost 600 and u can switch the battery to llithium so u can have 2 for the price of one
That's a good idea. The standard Trailz doesn't have fenders and some of the components are more basic but you could save some cash this way for sure. Here's the review on that one: electricbikereview.com/ezip/trailz/
Yeah if u don't mind the down grade on some parts then u can go my way but for top notch u made a good disision by the way the bike was 1000 right
Wayne Rhea Yeah, this one costs about $1,000 (maybe over after taxes). I hope your eZip Trails works great! It is one of the longest running ebikes around and should be pretty solid with decent support from Currie Technologies.
Are there any cheaper alternatives
Wayne Rhea Hmm... well the least expensive way to get an electric bike is to buy a conversion kit from a company like LEED and use an existing bike: electricbikereview.com/leed/30k-e-bike-kit/ if you want a fully built bike then these are the most affordable ones I've reviewed: electricbikereview.com/tag/affordable/ hope this helps!
Simple 20mph upgrade for < $20!
See - www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47566&p=923682#p923682
11T motor sprocket = 20 mph.
13T = 22mph + some assist past 25mph
Great feedback Walter, thanks for chiming in and sharing your link. Loved the line graph :)
You would think in 2014, you could buy a bike for $40 and powered bike for $100. But yeah right. For a $1000 you can buy a crappy car.
And for $100 you can buy a crappy house in Detroit... but it will cost you a lot more in the long run, just like a crappy car. Think about the cost of getting and maintaining a license, insurance, oil changes, tune ups and gas. Ebikes don't have all of those expenses and if you look on Craigslist you can find a crappy ebike for $100 as well in many large cities.
owned!!!. But heey what is the cheapest ebike in 2015?
Y10Q Go right ahead.
15mph max
Ewwww there's a crossfit gym. XD
Ha!
USE WASHERS so it won't RATTLE - DUH - & this will NOT pull any long hills & only LIGHT GUYS need apply - no one heavier - I would buy a VICTORY 7 speed CRUISER plain old pedal bike for about $249 + shipping w/SHIMANO brakes & gears that this 67 yrs ol' guy can get 31 MPH on a flat smooth street - eeeHAH
I think the one in this review rattled more because it was so old. The washers are a great idea. You're also correct about the motor on this one not being quite as powerful as something like the Pedego Interceptor which would be great for a heaver larger person: electricbikereview.com/pedego/interceptor/
piece of outdated lead powered dead battery on the first time drained, feels like a fax machine mounted on the back, slow, weak and guess why garage sale sold cheap and wal-mart, even in the market place ...scrap crap