SEGA After Burner for $500, but was it worth it?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ต.ค. 2024
- I got a Sega After Burner for $500 but was it worth it? In this video, I discover several issues with this budget pickup: did I get a lemon or a good deal?
Information on Sega's After Burner:
After Burner is an arcade vehicular combat game developed and released by Sega in 1987. The player assumes control of an American F-14 Tomcat fighter jet, and must clear each of the game's eighteen unique stages by destroying incoming enemies, using both a machine gun and a limited supply of heat-seeking missiles. It uses a third-person perspective, previously utilized by Sega's earlier games Space Harrier (1985) and Out Run (1986), and runs on the Sega X Board arcade system, which is capable of surface and sprite rotation. It is the fourth Sega game to use a hydraulic "taikan" motion simulator arcade cabinet, one that is more elaborate than their earlier "taikan" simulator games. The cabinet simulates an aircraft cockpit, with flight stick controls, a chair with seatbelt, and hydraulic motion technology that moves, tilts, rolls, and rotates the cockpit in sync with the on-screen action.
Designed by Sega veteran Yu Suzuki and the Sega AM2 division, After Burner was intended as being Sega's first "true blockbuster" video game. Development began in December 1986, shortly after the completion of Out Run, and was kept as a closely guarded secret within the company. Suzuki was inspired by the 1986 films Top Gun and Laputa: Castle in the Sky; he originally planned for the game to have a steampunk aesthetic similar to Laputa, but instead went with a Top Gun look to make the game approachable for worldwide audiences. It was designed outside the company in a building named "Studio 128", due to Sega adopting a flextime schedule to allow for games to be worked outside company headquarters. An updated version with the addition of throttle controls, After Burner II, was released later in the same year.
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This is by far one of my favorite games. I think it's putting the coins in and hearing that drum buildup to the rocking soundtrack! The game is also just simply amazing! If I could have one real cabinet in my home this one would be it!
I feel exactly the same. I have so much nostalgia for this game. I’m still pinching myself that I have this in my game room. Thanks so much for watching!
This is one of the defining arcade games for me and especially the deluxe cab because it was a total experience. You got a really nice cab and I hope you can get it all fixed up to your liking.
Ok,. that is cool that this machine had a crazy rumble on the joystick.
personally leave the original rumble .. only that is my opinion about it.
Oh man, this is super exciting! Afterburner memories at the local arcade... very much looking forward to Part 2!!!
BOOM! Instant Like! Ralph, as a hands-on project guy myself, I really appreciate seeing what's involved with restoring these machines. Each one is so different on the inside and with the unique interfaces, it must be like looking behind the curtain for the first time every time you get a new one. Great video!
Aye....now I want an Afterburner. You got that working well quickly. Nice work, bro!
Not too sure about a bass shaker as it would be tied to the audio which will trigger differently at best. I would try and insulate some of the shaker motor mechanics with felt or rubber to soften the affect. Another option is limiting the voltage going to it using a Variac or resistor able to handle the amount of power going into it.
After Burner is a lot of fun. Great video, I am surprised your garage-cade doesn't echo when recording videos.
Using a shaker is a great idea for the home arcade. Also, there's nothing wrong with using a new amp. I just love that there are repairs that we can make using new/cheap/reliable technology.
Which makes me wonder why it’s so hard to think long-term with these simply made home arcade versions. Shouldn’t it be just as simple to keep them running?
Great score Ralph. I have the same machine. The sit down was one of my favorite games as a kid. Very rear to see at this point. I know they have one at Fun Spot and New Hampshire and I was able to play it just 2 years ago. Brought back a lot of childhood memories.
That rumble motor is insane!
The After Burner at my local retro Arcade doesn't do that, I wonder if their fuse is blown too 🤔
Dude, right, it's freaking aggressive AF... LOL. I love it but needless to say the rest of the house disagrees with me... haha. I hope all is well man! If I don't talk to you before the holiday, have a great Christmas!
I miss playing this game. $500 is a good price for something that works.
I got mine for $400 back in 2019 - screen has always been slightly out of focus but it's playable. Unfortunately on location it maybe makes a max of $3/wk but I wasn't aware of the rumble, I'll have to look at that
Afterburner was one of my favorite arcades to play growing up, great memories playing this with the cockpit.
I was absolutely obsessed by After Burner when I was a kid, great find! Still listen to the tunes from it today. Ralph, if you need any advice fixing this, Chris White who did the Cannonball Outrun enhanced version would be a good person to contact. He can also provide you with some replacement EPROMs to actually enhance your original version of the game and improve it. Check out his Reassembler blog for more info.
I don't have the space for any full size cabinets so I'm always hoping someone like Replicade or Numbskull make a mini one of these. You just need an After Burner Climax cabinet to go with it now!
What an amazing pick up mate! Well done! You must be over the moon!
It's great to see that all the "faults" seemed to be easy fixes. Gotta be the deal of the year surely? :)
Awesome pick up Ralph, keep up the great video's. Looking forward toward that $100 cabinet pickup, I wonder what it could be? Can't wait.
Picking it up Saturday. =D
We shall see ;-) Hint: It's another SEGA title... haha.
I admit I'm not as familiar with after burner as with many of SEGA's other arcade IPs (though I did play a ton of the modern sequel Climax when my local arcade had it) but the little bit I played of the original game was pretty sick! that's a pretty sweet pickup and hopefully those repairs and the shaker motor/bass shaker stuff work out.
Wow for 500$ this is amazing!! Congrats Ralph 🎉
✌🏼😎👍🏼
I'm trying to make up for all the "bad deals"... LOL.
Nice! The Afterburner 2 I got from an estate sale was home use only (purchased new from Sega)... until I put it in my commercial arcade, LOL. To this day it's still the cleanest one I've ever seen.
Awesome game to add man. There has to be an available place for you to open a good arcade bro. You've got some great games!
Ralph…you need to have a site with tutorials on how to mod/repair old arcades. With what I’m paying now for Arcade1Ups, I’d definitely go this route if only I had some help. Make it a subscription service or write a book. You’d have my $$$ for sure 👍
You must love afterburner because you fix this pretty fast. Damn Sega fanboy.
You're making me laugh because I literally tossed every project aside to work on it... LOL. I'm a SEGA fanboy through and through my dude! I hope all is well brother, hang in there dude.
a solution to eliminate the flickering of the led bulb is to place a 0.47uF 275VAC capacitor in parallel with the installation.
Thanks for the tip, I appreciate it 🙏🏼
Did you do the shaker motor idea? Any link to the relays? I just picked up one today to rehab.
If you came across an After Burner Deluxe cab for sale, would you still buy it? Or does this Upright Cab scratch any itch you have and you don't need an After Burner Deluxe anymore?
That rumble is surprising strong indeed, I haven't played that version of After Burner as the one I used to play was the Deluxe cockpit one.
$500 afterburner u bastard
I’m pretty sure that you made out
And you’re totally capable of repairing
Yeah, this graphical issue is a tough one though, I'm waiting on EEPROMs to see if I can fix that. I "think" I know what it is... Thanks for watching brother!
I was always obsessed with this cab as a kid. I think it had more to do with the design of the cab than the actual game but regardless, awesome find.
What a great find! After Burner is a grail. Great job on the repairs Retro Ralph!
I have the Afterburner 2 “commander” cabinet, it is pretty awesome, but takes up alot of space. I am hoping to trade it for an upright cab. I also have the upright Thunderblade and was thinking of getting a smarty pi so i could play TB, Afterburner, and galaxy force 2 in the same cab!
Oh man…if I had to choose just one arcade to own, it would be this. Hands down. Almost got one for $350 years ago but was a pain to arrange for pickup. Dream cab for sure. I hope the home arcade manufacturers are paying attention to the comments here!
Wow that’s amazing what a great pick up dude 👊🏻
Thanks 👍 I apprecaite you watching!
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Hello Son 😂
Job well done acquiring After Burner, Ralph! I do know that video graphic glitches can be a challenge on SEGA PCBs. There is a youtube channel named @RetroClinic where Mark has a history of repairing SEGA boards. Maybe check with him for advice or possible repair work?
Thanks for the tip bud, I just reached out to him to see if he can help. Thanks again! I'm going to do some basic troubleshooting in the meantime and see if I can make any progress. Thanks again!
If you can't get that board 100% working there's a replacement board available. The guys at Joe's Classic Arcade got one for an Afterburner with a board that they couldn't fix.
super unique game and controls with a small footprint for the win!!
Yeahhhhhh buddy! Thanks for watching my friend!
$550? That's a great deal even in that shape! I would have JUMPED on that deal. Congrats!
Yea, that shaker is a bit aggressive. Shaker is good for certain games, but if the bass mod you speak of gives you feedback AND sound - kind of a no-brainer.
I got a pretty nice example of one of these at a pawn shop about 10 years ago for a steal at $100. I wish I still had it, one of my favorites I regret selling.
Pretty sure incandescent bulbs are no longer manufactured.
LOVE AFTERBURNER! One of my favorites from the arcade days. So, was it worth it or not? Or still undecided?
The "rumble motor" is shaking like that cause the original damping rubbers are decomposed........ Playing the game like this WILL crack the joystick frame. I used tire rubber to to replace the original rubber dampeners that are no longer available.
Thanks bud, I will take a look at that and see if I can come up with a similar solution. Thanks a lot, really appreciate the help!
Add a small resister to the LED to get rid of the unwanted light.
Come on Ralph! you know you want the cockpit! :P
The old stuff is cool, I get it. Kind of bummed we don't get many A1up cab reviews from you any more.
I gotta follow my passion man. I’m just not really into the 1up cabs anymore. I was really excited when they came out in 2018, but lately they’ve been disappointing. I might cover them here and there If they do a title that’s super crazy otherwise I likely won’t be covering them again for a while. I appreciate you still supporting the channel though, thank you so much 🙏🏼
Great pick up Ralph. This will be my most anticipated review once you get it fully up & running & working beautifully.
Very cool, are you likely to be selling this once fixed up and restored fully?
This one is a keeper for my personal collection:-)
Hahah did you take the bass shaker from the one you built in the chair? 😂 i remember you did a afterburner build with the base shaker
I went into storage and took it off the chair... LOL. Good memory dude... haha. Thanks so much for watching!
If 1up made a legit Afterburner with the molds to get that look….they would sell like hot cakes.Great stream Ralph👊🏼
Such a great cabinet!! Nice pickup!
Why would you ever want less rumble? Who cares if it's loud? Are you losing your mind?
It’s hard to explain, my game room has no door and we have all tile downstairs. So it’s just loud for everyone else. I love that it’s loud, you know what I mean? 😕
Awesome! Can't wait until the next video. I remember playing that one at the Disneyland Hotel's underwater arcade. The cockpit one was at Disneyland's arcade by Space Mountain.
Me: Let’s see what Ralph has to say about Afterburner.
Ralph: *burps*
Me: 👍
😂 Thanks brother
Nice cabinet, can’t wait to see the mod’s
I've played Afterburner thousands of times and somehow forgot about the (atrocious) rumbling of the control stick! We use to let go of the stick in the arcade when it started that crap.
How did you score that? We live in the same state.. didnt see on offer up or craigslist or Arizona arcades for sale fcb
Gratz man! I have fond memories playing the stand up version in the arcade. Can't wait to see part 2.
Did not have a problem with LED bulbs in 2017.
I think I just have some cheap bulbs, I’m going to try a better quality bulb.
As fine as Afterburner was as an arcade flying game masterpiece never to be duplicated, you overpaid for this standup cabinet in my opinion.
I respect your opinion but Arcade Game pricing varies a lot by region and around here, that’s a great price. I’m in the Southwest in Phoenix,AZ. Our pricing is very much the same as California. It’s typically on the high end but deals exist, you just have to hunt them down. This was actually a deal from another area though and never posted anywhere. Anyhow, I appreciate the comment and for you watching. 👍🏻
I forgot to mention, given all of it's problems as well which is why i believed that you paid too much. That screen issue looked the worst to me.
That's awesome! This past weekend I worked on an Afterburner DX, the old moving sit down version. Has a lot of issues, mainly monitor and some power supplies, sound amp is completely blown, but it and a moving G-Loc will be worked on. They were ocean pier games, so... My buddy was, or is the world record holder for Afterburner. He's one of the score keepers for the Kong off at Funspot.
Nice pickup... a classic and fun game! As for the LED bulbs staying lit, I'm not an electronics genius, but cutting and pasting the reason: "An LED bulb, compared to halogen lamps or incandescent bulbs, has a much higher resistance on count of the integrated power supply unit. What happens is that the serial connection of the glow lamp clamps the circuit even when you turn the switch off." Try a name brand LED bulb as many inexpensive ones don't have the right electronics in them (cheap Chinese crap). If replacing the bulb with a better "quality" bulb doesn't work, there is a resistor you can solder somewhere in line to drop the resistance of the wire before contacting the bulb. Again, I've had this problem and researched it in the past, but not an electronics guy to say "you need this xxx Ohm resistor for this cab and put it here".
Nice pick up!! ❤
walmart has incandescent light bulbs there 100 watt equivalents but use 72 actual watts. I've been buying them for five years to keep my lizard 🦎 childs enclosure at a nice 100 degrees.
I’m doing pretty well on my 2022 list as well, but failed to achieve my top acquisition - more space. =…(
Congrats on the beautifully priced score!
Thanks man, I appreciate it! Yeah, that part of it sure is a challenge. I have moved things to storage for now but that's not a great solution. Thanks again and I appreciate you watching!
@@RetroRalph I hear you. I have ten games in the house, 17 games in storage.
It’s a burden to keep them there, and worse, I need to decide which is house worthy and what is not. Brutal.
@@Glitch969 I’m in your exact position, I rotate them from the garage to the house as my current solution. And pull from storage from time to time but obviously that’s not very convenient. I wish I had one giant space to put everything, maybe one day. 🙏🏼
Love the OTT Sega Sprite scaler coin ops - congrats 👍
Thanks man, I appreciate you watching!
Would be cool if there was more video of the cabinet and game
I will in part 2, I'm having some technical issues with the main board right now.
Can you please test a everdrive pro or mega SD to see if your ali express genesis will play sega CD off the cart
I have a MegaSD in it now and it works great. I haven’t tried an Everdrive in it yet.
@@RetroRalph Ok so sega CD games do work, not just genesis ? I love this & cant get a anologue SG so this is great alternative
IDK if anyone mentioned yet… but just pay the slight increase for “non-ghosting” LEDs. It will 💯 fix the issue you described. I know this bc I love/collect/rebuild pinball machines. Apologies if someone already shared this answer, but it will solve that “constantly still lit” led issue you mentioned.
BEST REGARDS -
I've never played one of these. Now, I want to =P
Sweet pickup man looks great for it's age! I wouldn't mind having an Afterburner in my house someday. Man did I pop the quarters in it and many other cabinet over the years. lol And hey I still hunt for regular light bulbs, because LEDs actually stress my eyes out when they are in light fixtures and such. lol
I had just made an inquiry about light bulbs in America from the other day. Turns out that all throughout the US of A, the incandescent lightbulb has become illegal for brick-and-mortar stores to sell. Power saving measures are a cause for that one. One possible exception may still be found in appliance bulbs, where LED's may not like extreme heat and cold. Another loophole seems to be found in mail order. Because the laws concentrate on the sales side of these bulbs and not the ownership of them.
Is a world full of LED lighting a good thing? Time will tell.
Is the motor AC or DC? Is it run with PWM? You can probably do a Bass shaker but you'll need to do something to turn the output frequency to a low rumble, I'm thinking the default output would be too high of a frequency. That can probably be fixed with an Arduino and some code though.
Don't buy very cheap LED bulbs. Most new LED bulbs have now corrected this problem. All it was a resistor ! 🤣
Bigger problem is that LEd bulbs don't last as long as they are should. This because they are overdriven. They would last a lifetime if one resistor is replaced with a different value or removed on a dual sensor resistors 😵💫
After Burner! Well done man great find for a great price. Nice work on the fixes too... man... that force feedback/ shake on the joystick. Nuts! All the best.
My very 1st video game I played on a Sega hired from Blockbusters in 1994. Man i would love Afterburner on pc or switch! Congrats on the find.
How about muffling the rumble motor? Pack some soundproofing material around the rumble motor?
The big question is with all your games how often do you play them? If the answer is anything other than 3x a week time yo sell and make room lol
Helluva price! Excellent pickup Ralph. 🦊👊🏼
Thanks bud, I hope all is well man ✊🏻
Joe's Classic Video Games channel just repaired one of these, that video might help you diagnose....
I have most of the parts to scratch build an upright. I have to make the cab itself though. Looking forward to seeing your progress.
That's some serious rumble action! Hope you're keeping that thing away from your junk, bro.
Afterburner is an awesome game! One of my favorites!
Too loud for the house??? Man card revoked
Jerk… 😂. Thanks for watching brother! ✊🏻
Is this the one from OfferUp that I sent you?
That motor seems like it needs to be oiled rather than too loud.
Great price cabinet looks good. Get the enhanced rom upgrade!
use a relay for the led light bulbs, the game triggers the relay, the relay turns the led on that can be 5v led12v led or mains ,
what is the on and off voltage at the bulb ?
Back in the day I didn't know the lights were there for that purpose, I thought they were for decoration.😂
When it comes to sit down arcade machines not a lot comes close to beating Afterburner except maybe Space Harrier
Gonna get a huge arm if you keep that shake weight and not go bass shaker. Awesome pickup, she's a beaut.
Just watched t2 yesterday. Cool to get a stand up . The cockpit one would be awsome.
A true arcade classic
The lock on light never worked so I had no idea it was used ingame. Love this cabinet so much.
Wicked sweet🤘🏴🤘
Since you have the Afterburner full cabinet are you going to sell this one?
After burner 1 & 2 flight stick never moved that much from what I remember
this after burner is so sweet i saw a few project ones a few years ago cheap but they all sold wish i bought them when they were cheaper
Was this on Facebook marketplace cause I saw one the same price
I have the same issue with the thrust on mine. How did you work with the dip switches to turn that on?
Open the PCB cage and look for Dip SWB and check to
Make sure Switch 3 is turned off (yeah it’s the opposite, on is off and off is on… haha) Let me know if that enables it, it’s what worked for me. Good luck dude! Thanks for watching!
@@RetroRalph awesome thanks Ralph 🙏🏼
@@RetroRalph Totally worked thanks a million Ralph.
kind of like the T2 guns, the recoils are so loud.