There's almost nobody who is a 1 or a 10 on the Makey scale, they say, most are somewhere in between. And that's not even considering outside the tool binary.
i've retired after 45 years, tool & die maker. i am SO impressed by how accurate your info is. knowing WHERE to spend your money (quality vs. dollar spent) is a make or break thing... early on in my career i bought into " ya gotta spend it to get it" and shelled out 50$ back in 1976 for 1-2-3 blocks when a korean 4$ import would have been just as fine.... and i wouldn't have been so neurotic when i drilled into them that's just one example. keep up the fine service, one of your vids are worth at least 3 college level classes. i've made parts that are on mars, and prototypes for a bay area national laboratory while employed there. i can only conclude with the wish that you had been there in 1967 to learn from when i got my start.. you are a great mentor to what i hope is a rebirth of american manufacturing and skill
You forgot to mention the importance of a good, high quality shop cat. A premium shop cat will not only poop both standard and metric threaded bolts (when fed the right amount of metal shavings), but will also catch bugs, mice, and small math errors (up to about .125 in., or about 3mm).
@@danielabbey7726 The models from Siam are quite sleek. But stay away from the ones from Persia. Those tend to get quite ragged very quickly in a functioning shop.
There’s woodworking and then there’s woodworking. The old pattern maker that I worked with could use hand tools and a disc sander to produce tolerances that many machinists find hard to hit.
@@robertpearson8798 yes, what astonished me about woodworking as an engineer is that, especially if you use existing parts to layout other parts, you can get extremely tight tolerances. Also, test fitting then shaving then test fitting is another way to get perfect fits.
Final comment about saving money was interesting. A couple of weeks after buying my lathe I needed swinging arm bushes for a 1980 Kawasaki. I was horrified to learn I was expected to pay £68 for the bushes. I set to with 50 pence worth of black nylon (carbon impregnated) and made a pair. Those bushes are still going strong 14,000 miles later. I've done a lot of similar jobs on bits of old motorcycle since. Of course, the way to really save money would be not to buy old motorbikes in the first place.
Blasphemy! ALWAYS buy old motorcycles. If there is one thing on this planet a guy can’t have too many of its old motorcycles…oh, and tools. ALWAYS buy tools. And land, you need room for all the old stuff you buy.
Hello Quinn! I don’t know if I’ll ever pull the trigger on a lathe or mill ( too many hobbies, never enough time), but the information you provide (and the way you present it) has been invaluable and extremely entertaining. I teach motorcycle repair / modification for a living (another intimidating undertaking for a beginner… won’t save you much $ in the beginning… like you said.. it’s about the journey!), and you do a fantastic job of providing us with just enough information to not scare us off from giving it a try. Detailed enough when we need it, and basic enough when to make us think… yeah, I can probably do that! Keep up the good work.
So nice to see a non man doing this, I have so many questions! I am also a lady machinist (apprentice for now) and it's inspiring to see you, not only succeeding, but instructing. I'm definitely gonna go through all your content. Thanks for the class.
Quinn - Highly informative, and a delight to watch! I love the way you can reel off dense technical information in a way that most anyone can understand, and always keep it upbeat and interesting!
My first month after starting full time in our family shop, I made a tap guide block. It was an old 1-1/4" square shaft key. I drilled a row of holes thru at thread nominal diameters from number 10 thru 1/2". I still have it and use it regularly, 38 years later. Quinn, thanks for the quality content. There's lots of good advice in this video.
For metal, don't forget to look for a good local scrapyard that sells retail. I have one, steel is $.40 per pound, aluminum and stainless $2 per pound, any size or shape you can find. Beats the heck out of online metal prices and lets me afford to kee a few hundred pounds of assorted "bits" around for when I need them.
Depends on where you are and where you look. Here aluminum is $3 a pound to buy but I've run into a few deals on cutoffs on Ebay for $2.50 a lb with free shipping.
14:17 'Metric folks can get by with fewer drills' - no we can't! we have to have the imperial, number and letter drills as well 'just in case we might need them, even if we never use them'
Things I like about the Imperial system: first, it's called "Imperial", which has a much better ring to it than "metric" (though "Avoirdupois" is still the prestige favourite). Second, dividing by two in order to get the next smaller unit is very intuitive (just compare 1/32" to 0.79375 mm). Third, British engineers were able to attain enormous feats with what the rest of the world now considers an unwieldy, even silly system. Nowadays, American engineers reach similar heights using the Imperial system (there's a moral there, to be sure). In short, there's no reason for the decimal system to be preferred; in fact, we'd be much better off if we chose a duodecimal system, because 12 can be exactly divided by 2, 3 and4, whrereas 10 can only be exactly divided by 2 and 5. Fourth, Blondihacks uses it; need I say more?
What people often fail to realize about the lathe is it really teaches you about cutting tool geometry, chip load, feeds and speeds. Small lathes don’t give a lot of leeway when it comes to those topics so you learn to get those right which translates well to all other operations
And first things first if you want to grind tools also. If your HSS jumps on the stone, you will not grind good tools. The wheel dressing and balancing needs to be taken care of, which it isn't if you buy a used grinder or a chinese one out of the box.
I am a new lathe operator for a year now! I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you for making them. You gave me the gift of your expertise. Thank you.
Newbies, listen closely to Quinn. She has done this long enough to get it right, but has never forgotten what it was for her to be the newbie. She bridges that gap between not knowing, then knowing what to do.
First time viewer, new subscriber. You have me hooked. 30 years in Aerospace / Defense, precision hand finisher, machinist, tool & cutter grinder, problem solver. Was a thrill amongst several, when you recommended the Noga magbase for beginners, Spot On!!! All of my other magbases were immediately relegated to high-risk jobs, such as loaning to other Operators ;-). It would be a pleasure to work with someone of your calibre... Thanks for the content, and if my circumstances improve, I will definitely become a patron.
40 years as an Aviation machinist, and am a big fan of this young woman. Not only do I delight watching her processes, as it truly is the journey that spurs us on, but the dry sense of humor sprinkled throughout keeps me chuckling. Jigs & fixtures are our lot in life! My first instructors mantra in a thick German accent still rings true “perpendicular und square!”. Was also wondering if the rumor is true that each time a cat image randomly appears that a sip of an adult beverage is called for? And is the beverage quantity in ounces or milliliters?
25 years as a machinist. So much good information! Took me years to acquire the knowledge you passed on in less than 30 minutes. So right about good tools like taps and drills. Buy what you need for a job and soon you will need a big roll around chest! Keep up the good Videos!! "Mac" the machinist
I'm learning how to use Lathes where I work. I've worked in a steel mill most of my life.. I recently started working at a small machine shop, and I absolutely love it! I have so much to learn, and finding your channel really is helping me out! I need to really learn the right way to grind the tools. I really appreciate your content!
"Rigidity is the ballgame in machining." This is such a great, succinct axiom of the machining world. I appreciate that you give very clear rationale to support your suggestions!
Protip: most of my murder machines (bandsaw, grinding wheel, etc) have at least one piece of PPE actively blocking the use of the tool. You can not access them and get them work ready without touching goggles, earmuffs, etc. This helps me break the mindset of 'oh it's just one quick cut'. No, it's just one small chunk of debris flying at my head, and I like having both eyes working 👍 And yea, I got some fairly cheap goggles as spares to do this to every big tool ❤
That's excellent, I keep reprehending/training/suppressing my "not-so-responsible-self" by doing something like that too. Leaving obstacles and or reminders for my futures self in front of equipment or spaces where risky stuff goes on.
With my limited time learning, 1 year , I found that the pre ground sets of tool bits are good, but you will need to sharpen and regrind them pretty soon but the good thing is, they work as a good template
If you want you could even note down the angles from the pre-ground stuff to serve as a template (since often some of the angles dont stay intact or measurable, especially when something breaks off, wich is not unlikely for beginners), while you have no understanding of what the different angles actually do, until you find the time to actually learn, what the angles do and fit them to your actual needs.
A thing to consider on the PPE front: if you wear a wedding ring, buy something dedicated to store it in, and TAKE IT OFF BEFORE YOU WORK. Lots of people don't count it as jewellery. Yes, it sucks to take it off, but degloving is no joke, and it'll suck a lot more if your wedding ring gets damaged. Same goes for any electrical work above 48V or with high-current supplies.
Literaly just came across your channel while finishing of DIPA brew day. Using a diy arduino temp control in between working on my latest welding project. Was researching 3d printing wishing I had a lathe in between hop additions. Your channel description is basically everything I'm into. Add firearms and it would be a one stop shop. Awesome channel with great tutorials!
Hi Quinn, At the tenderage of 65 i have, out of the blue developed this absolute obsession about restoring old and rusted metal objects. I just love making old and well made objects as good as new again. Replacing screws and other parts has pointed me to your site for information and some know how. I love your way of presenting as well as your down to earth manner. Thank you for an excellent site, i am subscribed and will undoubtedly enjoy many more of your videos. Thank you, Johan
I would have added a good 6" machinist rule. Otherwise after 10 years as a hobbyist machinist I agree with everything your said and wish you had said it 10 years ago.
Agree with the need for a 6” scale, but I’ve found just one isn’t adequate. I have around 10; one for every place I might conceivably lay one down, and one more for my apron pocket.
My pick for video of the week! Clear and concise as always. So many creators fall into the trap of repetition, circling around the same bush. Your efforts in planning and prep are much appreciated.
Just came across this Blondiehacks series. I'm a hobby woodworker and have been "metal curious". I've watched This Old Tony, etc, for entertainment and always felt machining was too far outside my wheelhouse. Now, not so much. Thanks for the uploads and information. Instant subscriber here.
@@mpikas yup and the path for the hoist and where did I even put that thing and ugh the lathe is so dirty back there and crap now I've got a sliver so I've gotta dig out the microscope... Reorganizing my shop is very much yak shaving
I really liked this video. Good sensible information shot in a "This Old Tony"/ AvE format but much more down to earth and practical. Still, nice bits of humor sprinkled throughout. My son and I started watching this channel for the steam engine build, he is fascinated with steam.
Quinn. I always enjoy every single video you make because they are so informative and NO ONE has talked down to me or force fed me anything. I learn from every video and I never intend to get into machining. Thank you so much for making all of the videos and please don't stop. The world needs you. Oh, I DO have my own murder machines to flog me occasionally too. In the garage ..waiting ....
Another consideration for selecting lathes and mills is not just the space but also the power supply. For 2 HP and up you'll probably need three phase power, which may be unavailable or prohibitively expensive.
Depends also on your location I know people in the US don't have 3 phase power as standard in their homes, where as in my home country if you have a house you have at least 1 if not multiple 3 phase outlets.
One of your best “how to” videos yet. I’m so glad I found your channel when I did. It’s been like a fun climb up the learning curve with a comedic shop teacher. Thanks for sharing.
I started my tool and die career 43 years ago, and also taught high school machine shop along the way. It's sad how school systems have disemboweled practically every shop class in the past thirty years. Keep up the great work!
My interest in machining goes back to Lindsay Publishing catalogs and particularly Dave Gingery's machine shop plans. Since then I spent significant time helping in machine shops, playing as a blacksmith, working in a couple foundries, and currently working sheet metal on the Trans Alaska Pipeline. All of that to say, I am a serious fan. Keep up the great work!
LOVE your approach and your realistic knowledge. It's so funny to me how many "experts" there are here on YT and it makes the whole thing seem unapproachable. But you make it seem totally possible to have a hobby machine shop. That's really cool and I love it! And you're so right about tools - buy cheap and replace/upgrade what breaks or when you feel like you want something a little nicer. That's outstanding advice and sometimes it gets lost in the "only use these tools" crowd. Well done.
Glad I started here. With info this good I already know that I'm a few years out from having the cash and time to invest in this hobby interest mainly based on a significant backlog of home improvement and mechanical projects. Heck, I want to tool and skill up on metal fab first, for that matter, which is a natural extension of some of the car/bike projects! Thanks for making it so approachable and deflating totalizers!
Bought my first lathe four days ago - 1949 South Bend 9A. Two days of assembly and my first project is replacing the missing dauber on the tail stock. I need more has cutters - it only came with two! But it has the taper attachment, quick change gearbox, power cross feed, steady rest, dogs, faceplate, Chuck, collets 3C and virtually zero wear on the ways or tail stock base. And it is a collectible since it is stamped “US ARMY” in several places. And it is VERY quiet.
So, I just pulled the trigger on the Precision Matthews 1022V because of you. I really enjoy your videos. I have learned a ton from you and you are appreciated.
Best video I’ve watched for a while. It makes me feel good that you recommend so much equipment when I did the same. I am a woodworker having a go at metal machining. I like machining brass and aluminium, but not at all keen on steel. You say Use good materials for learning. The same applies to woodworking.These days I use my machines more for wood! , but I’m glad I invested. No pockets in shrouds.
About the lathe. I went to the store to buy the Craftex (sold in Canada) equivalent of the one you have. They had some "refurbished" (more like returned) machinery for almost half the price. The thing is someone before me bought the lathe I was looking for and what they had left was a CX709. The CX709 has a shorter bed and no speed controller. However, it is a gearhead lathe with more swing over bed, a MT5 and bigger bore on the headstock and MT3 on the tailstock. Honestly, the popularity of the variable speed controller is overrated when you move to a medium size bench machine. I learned the basics on an toolroom lathe and you don't need the "infinite speed variation" within the range, six speeds can do a lot, and if you need more change, the belt and you get another twelve speeds. So if you are considering buying the same (or equivalent) as Quin get the gearhead instead. The price difference is not that big and the CX709 includes the stand (mine came without it because it wasn't brand new). About projects I recommend to get some books from the well known Workshop Practice Series. *Useful Machine Tools To Make [Stan Bray] *Metal Lathe [Harold Hall] *Milling [Harold Hall] These these have enough projects to keep a hobbyist busy for quite a long time and you will probably end up with a lot of useful tools and accessories.
Have to agree with you 100% on the Workshop Practice Series books out of the UK; similarly, George H. Thomas' books from TEE Publishing are excellent. Not sure if they're still readily available, but Canadian author Guy Lautard's three Machinist Bedside Readers are also very good.
So I went to school for 4 years for marine engineering....took a class called Machine Tool Tech which was all on an old $417 southbend. I have been playing with my own mini lathe making small parts/odds and ends for motorcycles/jet skis/boats/equipment for the past 8 years. I just learned more in 28 minutes than all that previous time combined. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I know a handful of machinist and I believe that you people are the smartest of the smart and the best teachers out there!
Dykem.....If your only measuring tool is a tape measure.Been a tool maker for 30+ years and a shop supervisor for over 10 of that.Get a fine line marker such as Penmark ect.A regulay marker works well for most jobs.Dykem is very foul smelling and most types are known to cause cancer and the "remover" is worse.My 2 cents.
15:01 wish I'd seen this video *before* I destroyed my tailstock's live center despite having a pile of center drills in a box from a yardsale. Didn't know what they were for!
You REALLY know your subject, tools, and materials, very well, especially for your relatively young age. As far as I can tell, your advice is almost always "spot on". You have a particular personal perspective, as is inevitable for everybody, but most people would be very well advised to listen to you. [I'm very old, with a background in industrial arts, mechanical engineering, and manufacturing, so I know whereof I speak.]
Quinn, thank you for the video content. No one on TH-cam, that I can find, has offered a extremely helpful video on getting started in machining for beginners. That's me! Watching too much TH-cam machinists (Quinn, Keith, the other Keith, Steve, Adam and Mr. Pete) and not practicing the craft. Gotta buy my equipment and get started! Thanks again for thinking of viewers like me.
You are awesome. You speak clearly and slow enough so I can understand you easily as a non-native speaker. In addition, as I'm no machinist but an interested hobbyist crafter, everything you say makes absolutely sense. Looking forward to watching further videos of yours. Keep up the great work. Greetings from Germany.
Quinn thanks your hard work making these videos you a re a joy to watch. I see the heart of a teacher, get you humor completely I'm a disabled software engineer I took delivery on my first mill yesterday looking forward to first chips! lathe comes today s excited I can't sleep. thanks again for making this accessible to the machine curious.
Blondie is right about woodworking tools. I worked in a furniture manufacturing plant for years. Cellulose necromancy machines have a tendency to cut all your fingers the same length, or rip off most of your arm along with 3 of your fingers. (not kidding here) I saw the aftermath of people cutting corners that were there for safety. Thank the crafting gods our owner was smart enough to fun a baseball field next to the plant for life flight to land at to fly people to the best local trauma center.
hi, 14 year old that just got sucked into all of THIS. i made my own cnc mill over the last 6 months, that was a mistake. for the money i spent on the cnc i could have got a pretty good lathe that's like 20 times more precise. sooo DONT BUY A MILL, or and even less, try to make one yourself with just a 3d printer and a hacksaw
This is a great video. The tip on buying a large but inexpensive drill index and selectively spending more on better quality drills used most often is brilliant.
I just bought my first mini lathe, for exactly the reason of space, but it can cut thread, variable speed etc, very nice, and it cant take the quick change cuting bit holder thing, so, i bought one, and made it fit😬, am definitely going to watch your videos......
Quinn, another way that amateurs have tried to have a lathe is by making one. The Gingery lathe is a good example. With your analytical mindset, I beg you to consider studying the Gingery lathe, reviewing its (many) weak aspects (metallurgy, rigidity...), and if there could be a Blondi alternative.
I was very fortunate to have been a friend of Dave Gingery. A wonderful, generous, humble man. I loved his books, but not so much as I wanted to build my own machines from start, but because they were for me an endless source of ideas for fixturing, methods of work, etc.
I totally agree with your suggestions, especially about not buying cheap taps. Nothing makes a happy, relaxing Sunday afternoon melt into a fiery rage than having a tap break off in the hole of the part you just spent 5 hours making. Ask me how I know. And pretty much any other hobby machinist, lol.
"Cheap taps are a nightmare. Don't buy them." Something the science units folks and freedom units folks can agree upon. World peace will surely follow.
I personally am restoring an old 6" Craftsman that was missing some parts.With my eyes, I am not sure what I will do with it when I get it all together, but I am doing it more as a labor of love and nostalgia As for larger lathes, I tend to like the Clausing 16" as it had all the things I liked to use for work
I'm just getting into how all this stuff works. And there are many excellent practitioners on TH-cam but none of them go into the basic basics as you've done here. Thank you
Excellent summary. Plus the dirty hands and burned spots on your workbench always make me smile. Well done. Also, I feel your pain recording audio in a residential setting. Lawn mowers are the bane of my existence.
Thank you for this excellent treatise, Quinn. Delivered with your usual delightful flair. I always learn something new from your videos. I loved seeing you and your steam engine on the Livestream of the Bar Z Bash 2021 raffle. Hope you are having a great time!
Ok, Ima be the machinist equivalent to the woodworking purist guy: "Just get a good file and a good vise and start filing some dovetail ways or something. Once you get good at filing you can build up your workshop with other tools."
Fun fact, to become a machinist in Germany, you spend the first three to six months of your apprenticeship just filing and sawing by hand. Maybe a little chiseling. (The apprenticeship - usually - takes between three and three-and-a-half years).
Last startup I went to work for, I was in R&D doing electronics and building jigs and fixtures for the Production group. I had a steel table with a vise, a hacksaw, some files, and a Sears benchtop drillpress. After 2 years they had just got me a benchtop mill from Grizzly, and then decided that maybe we need a CNC and a real machinist. I made a lot of stuff for them before 'ol Mike took over for me.
@@angelusmaker Been there, done that. I was doing my PhD work at a Max Planck Institute and thought it would be a good opportunity to learn machine work. I did a "mini-apprenticeship" and spent the first 3 months filing cubes and hand sawing stock. I learned to file aluminium, soft steel, stainless, Perspex, etc. It wasn't always fun (!!), but it taught me so much about accuracy, patience and not accepting compromises. I never used these skills, outside of my own home shop, but I value them to this day (I'm almost 80 now).
One question that strikes me for day one is "what to expect for cleanup and maintenance" - with all of the oils, chips, cutting fluids, etc - how does everything not quickly turn into a mess?
the answer is, everything turns quckly into a mess. wd40, shop towels, sand or better suited products to suck spillages, more shop towels and most importantly, shop towels (or old rags for the non important stuff).
Excellent, logical rundown of getting started in metal work. Of course, where you are poses a completely different set of problems. A ground floor garage or shed is really a must for the big stuff. I have a spare bedroom in a social housing block so am a bit scuppered on the heavy noisy stuff. Above ground floor you can't even hammer on a table it creates so much vibration.
Really nice job of placing everything, where they need to be. What I mean is that you have everything in place, in accord with you do the most, and by doing that you make the most of what you have. One thing you mentioned is very important and that light; people don't realize how important lighting is, it gets rid of shadows which can not only mak your work more difficult, but ruin what ever you're working on. Funny though, shadows are important in art work such as in paintings and all that. Anyway, thank you, I really enjoyed the tour of your shop. If I may, with your permission, I would like to ask everyone out there to please keep the buzz in the bottle, do not drink and drive, it really doesn't mix well at all and it can have devastating results. I wish everyone has a very happy, and safe holiday season.
Lol. 3:32ish, your spot on quin first op I ever did on a mill was to put a slot Into an aluminum (not aluminium) tube. (Not chube) thanks for all your wonderful videos and work
I’m a simple man - I see a new blondihacks video, I click like. P.s. as someone who as a machine shop in my spare bedroom on the first floor(2nd floor for some of the world, as 1st floor is ground floor here in England), and has had to carry 3 lathes and a milling machine upstairs, the moving aspect of the machines is extremely important to emphasise, which is something I feel loads of these videos forget to mention. Fantastic video as always, Quinn.
@@onestopfabshop3224 Don't do it! 3 sets of stairs in what amounts to a bungalo... Awkward plumbing & wiring... Completely non-functional HVAC due to poor airflow...
I’m working with a 9 inch 120 year old Dalton change gear lathe with separate screw feed. AND just got a 1963 17 x 42 Leblond Regal to go with the table top Hardinge horizontal mill and the Bridgeport. I had to create a building to accommodate it all. I think I have a problem. Woodworking, metalwork, welding, blacksmithing.. uhoh
I'm an RN and have been metal curious for a while watching a assortment of your videos, I just ordered a small Minila The and tooling. Thanks for the education and encouragement! I have no idea what I'm doing but hope to learn some new skills and make something cool!
Awesome video Quinn, I hate that youtube comments and creators and pro machinists are so anal about correct terms and tools needed that you need to have a disclaimer for every single suggestion. You've made an excellent video on starting in machining, and since I started watching you almost a couple years ago now, since I got my little optimum lathe, I've gotten away with most of these tools no problem, and still come out with decent parts, and that's with only one dial indicator, and one micrometer :O (oh no the machinists will string me up!) Keep at it, very very helpful video, and brought up a couple tools that I keep forgetting to get myself :P dont listen to the hate, you achieve stellar results 9 times out of 10, and you're ballsy enough to show any errors you make. You make real, proper content that a real person can use!!
I fully endorse your comments regarding the humble engine hoist. All machine tools are heavy and having an on-hand safe way of moving them is essential. These can be hired fairly cheaply but that involves obviously going to the tool hire place so it's tempting to say nah I can do it myself. A dropped tool can be repaired of replaced but a back injury risks a life-time of pain.
Great video, I always think I should buy a mill first as I can see that being more useful for me (and it would replace my small drill press) but you make good points for buying a lathe first!
When I first entered a workshop in my teens we used a lathe with work piece attached to cross slide to performing milling. Not ideal but it filled the technical gap. Took me 40 years before I realised you could do the opposite and use a mill as a crude lathe, so I always recommended getting a lathe first. Anyway what is mill other than uprated drill press with an added crossslide.
'randomly' came across this video and I say randomly because i'm into cars and mechanics and welding but this was an easy instant watch. and I was just thinking about cool stuff to make the whole time, thank you for introducing me to this world. i DO need a lathe!
"Maybe you're metal curious?" I got that reference and fell out my chair laughing
I identify as bi-hobbial.
@@mhagnew why stop at two? The pan-hobbyists are out there too. ;)
There's almost nobody who is a 1 or a 10 on the Makey scale, they say, most are somewhere in between. And that's not even considering outside the tool binary.
I'm researching new bandsaw blades and at this late life stage find myself bimetal-curious; I guess tool love has no age limits...
@@mckannix5055 One thing I learned early on. Learn to weld your own and it will make life a lot easier.
i've retired after 45 years, tool & die maker. i am SO impressed by how accurate your info is. knowing WHERE to spend your money (quality vs. dollar spent) is a make or break thing... early on in my career i bought into " ya gotta spend it to get it" and shelled out 50$ back in 1976 for 1-2-3 blocks when a korean 4$ import would have been just as fine.... and i wouldn't have been so neurotic when i drilled into them that's just one example. keep up the fine service, one of your vids are worth at least 3 college level classes. i've made parts that are on mars, and prototypes for a bay area national laboratory while employed there. i can only conclude with the wish that you had been there in 1967 to learn from when i got my start.. you are a great mentor to what i hope is a rebirth of american manufacturing and skill
I want to apologize that some of your work has been stolen by the Martians.
I, for one, would like to welcome our Martian pilferers...
You forgot to mention the importance of a good, high quality shop cat. A premium shop cat will not only poop both standard and metric threaded bolts (when fed the right amount of metal shavings), but will also catch bugs, mice, and small math errors (up to about .125 in., or about 3mm).
They also are a great "self cleaning shop rag".
This Old Tony, is that you?
steve
They add to the fun in the shop by leaving gifts for you in the Quiksorb.
But buy a quality North American-made shop cat over the Asian imports! 😁
@@danielabbey7726 The models from Siam are quite sleek. But stay away from the ones from Persia. Those tend to get quite ragged very quickly in a functioning shop.
Great teachers are so rare, Quinn. You have a gift.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with research, experience, patience and endless work that went into this. It must be an innate gift.. smh..
@Fenderak a "gift" isn't innate, they can be earned/gained from experience. What an ignorant comment
@@smashyrashy
So most of your comment rebuttals are aimed to intimidate mentally handicapped people?
"a whole load of precision below a 1/16" - excellent!
Hitting below the belt for some on that one 😂
I'm not sure any of my woodworking projects ever hit 1/16 tolerances, but I appreciate the flattering assumption.
The converse is also true. I keep designing wood joints to 1/64” precision, and end up shaving with a chisel to account for material twist and bend.
There’s woodworking and then there’s woodworking. The old pattern maker that I worked with could use hand tools and a disc sander to produce tolerances that many machinists find hard to hit.
@@robertpearson8798 yes, what astonished me about woodworking as an engineer is that, especially if you use existing parts to layout other parts, you can get extremely tight tolerances. Also, test fitting then shaving then test fitting is another way to get perfect fits.
Final comment about saving money was interesting. A couple of weeks after buying my lathe I needed swinging arm bushes for a 1980 Kawasaki. I was horrified to learn I was expected to pay £68 for the bushes. I set to with 50 pence worth of black nylon (carbon impregnated) and made a pair. Those bushes are still going strong 14,000 miles later. I've done a lot of similar jobs on bits of old motorcycle since. Of course, the way to really save money would be not to buy old motorbikes in the first place.
It's still cheaper than new motorcycles.
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Not buy old bikes? That statement doesn't compute😂
Blasphemy! ALWAYS buy old motorcycles. If there is one thing on this planet a guy can’t have too many of its old motorcycles…oh, and tools. ALWAYS buy tools. And land, you need room for all the old stuff you buy.
Hello Quinn! I don’t know if I’ll ever pull the trigger on a lathe or mill ( too many hobbies, never enough time), but the information you provide (and the way you present it) has been invaluable and extremely entertaining. I teach motorcycle repair / modification for a living (another intimidating undertaking for a beginner… won’t save you much $ in the beginning… like you said.. it’s about the journey!), and you do a fantastic job of providing us with just enough information to not scare us off from giving it a try. Detailed enough when we need it, and basic enough when to make us think… yeah, I can probably do that! Keep up the good work.
Thank you for the generous donation!
So nice to see a non man doing this, I have so many questions! I am also a lady machinist (apprentice for now) and it's inspiring to see you, not only succeeding, but instructing. I'm definitely gonna go through all your content. Thanks for the class.
Quinn - Highly informative, and a delight to watch! I love the way you can reel off dense technical information in a way that most anyone can understand, and always keep it upbeat and interesting!
Great to see you Ron, and congratulations on the Hall of Fame, very well deserved!!! Excellent teacher and amazing craftsman, artistry!
Ron, were you at The Bash?
Seems like I heard Stan mention your name once.
@@richardhead8264 No, I didn't make it to the Bash this year. I wanted to go, we had some family medical issues. Hope I can make it next year!
My first month after starting full time in our family shop, I made a tap guide block. It was an old 1-1/4" square shaft key. I drilled a row of holes thru at thread nominal diameters from number 10 thru 1/2". I still have it and use it regularly, 38 years later.
Quinn, thanks for the quality content. There's lots of good advice in this video.
For metal, don't forget to look for a good local scrapyard that sells retail. I have one, steel is $.40 per pound, aluminum and stainless $2 per pound, any size or shape you can find. Beats the heck out of online metal prices and lets me afford to kee a few hundred pounds of assorted "bits" around for when I need them.
Depends on where you are and where you look. Here aluminum is $3 a pound to buy but I've run into a few deals on cutoffs on Ebay for $2.50 a lb with free shipping.
14:17 'Metric folks can get by with fewer drills' - no we can't! we have to have the imperial, number and letter drills as well 'just in case we might need them, even if we never use them'
Can vouch for this, but we can get away with crappy imperial drills if we don't use em heaps.
Have to or want to?
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@@bastelwastel8551 shots fired.
I petered rebel drills over imperial ones
Things I like about the Imperial system: first, it's called "Imperial", which has a much better ring to it than "metric" (though "Avoirdupois" is still the prestige favourite). Second, dividing by two in order to get the next smaller unit is very intuitive (just compare 1/32" to 0.79375 mm). Third, British engineers were able to attain enormous feats with what the rest of the world now considers an unwieldy, even silly system. Nowadays, American engineers reach similar heights using the Imperial system (there's a moral there, to be sure). In short, there's no reason for the decimal system to be preferred; in fact, we'd be much better off if we chose a duodecimal system, because 12 can be exactly divided by 2, 3 and4, whrereas 10 can only be exactly divided by 2 and 5. Fourth, Blondihacks uses it; need I say more?
What people often fail to realize about the lathe is it really teaches you about cutting tool geometry, chip load, feeds and speeds. Small lathes don’t give a lot of leeway when it comes to those topics so you learn to get those right which translates well to all other operations
With the workpiece spinning instead of the tool, you can really see the consequences of those factors in real time.
And first things first if you want to grind tools also. If your HSS jumps on the stone, you will not grind good tools. The wheel dressing and balancing needs to be taken care of, which it isn't if you buy a used grinder or a chinese one out of the box.
Absolutely! The chatter on my old Taig 4" Micro-Lathe definitely tought me how to grind HSS tool bits to proper angles! 😬
@@MF175mp I bought an 8" Chinese "Bear" model, don't do that! Absolutely horrible.
@Ellie Price my south bend can't keep up with the bridgeport for spindle speed lol its not "my" fault 🤣
I am a new lathe operator for a year now! I have learned so much from your videos. Thank you for making them. You gave me the gift of your expertise. Thank you.
Newbies, listen closely to Quinn. She has done this long enough to get it right, but has never forgotten what it was for her to be the newbie. She bridges that gap between not knowing, then knowing what to do.
First time viewer, new subscriber. You have me hooked. 30 years in Aerospace / Defense, precision hand finisher, machinist, tool & cutter grinder, problem solver. Was a thrill amongst several, when you recommended the Noga magbase for beginners, Spot On!!! All of my other magbases were immediately relegated to high-risk jobs, such as loaning to other Operators ;-). It would be a pleasure to work with someone of your calibre... Thanks for the content, and if my circumstances improve, I will definitely become a patron.
I started using center drills as spotting drills over 50 years ago. I ain't gonna change now...
Same here, well except for the 50 years part. LOL!!
40 years as an Aviation machinist, and am a big fan of this young woman. Not only do I delight watching her processes, as it truly is the journey that spurs us on, but the dry sense of humor sprinkled throughout keeps me chuckling. Jigs & fixtures are our lot in life! My first instructors mantra in a thick German accent still rings true “perpendicular und square!”. Was also wondering if the rumor is true that each time a cat image randomly appears that a sip of an adult beverage is called for? And is the beverage quantity in ounces or milliliters?
Get the noga with the fine adjust on the base and save yourself a lot of fiddling
Measure twice, fiddle once, cut over the course of like 16 passes because your machine does not have a lot of horsepower.
25 years as a machinist. So much good information! Took me years to acquire the knowledge you passed on in less than 30 minutes. So right about good tools like taps and drills. Buy what you need for a job and soon you will need a big roll around chest!
Keep up the good Videos!!
"Mac" the machinist
I'm learning how to use Lathes where I work. I've worked in a steel mill most of my life.. I recently started working at a small machine shop, and I absolutely love it!
I have so much to learn, and finding your channel really is helping me out! I need to really learn the right way to grind the tools. I really appreciate your content!
"Rigidity is the ballgame in machining." This is such a great, succinct axiom of the machining world. I appreciate that you give very clear rationale to support your suggestions!
Protip: most of my murder machines (bandsaw, grinding wheel, etc) have at least one piece of PPE actively blocking the use of the tool. You can not access them and get them work ready without touching goggles, earmuffs, etc.
This helps me break the mindset of 'oh it's just one quick cut'. No, it's just one small chunk of debris flying at my head, and I like having both eyes working 👍
And yea, I got some fairly cheap goggles as spares to do this to every big tool ❤
Smart woman....
Safety-always excellent advice. "Murder Machines" I died.😂😁 I'm gonna use that if ya don't mind lol
Bravo!
That's excellent, I keep reprehending/training/suppressing my "not-so-responsible-self" by doing something like that too. Leaving obstacles and or reminders for my futures self in front of equipment or spaces where risky stuff goes on.
Bout the only time I use PPE is when I’m dealing with molten metal or it’s above 400V
With my limited time learning, 1 year , I found that the pre ground sets of tool bits are good, but you will need to sharpen and regrind them pretty soon but the good thing is, they work as a good template
If you want you could even note down the angles from the pre-ground stuff to serve as a template (since often some of the angles dont stay intact or measurable, especially when something breaks off, wich is not unlikely for beginners), while you have no understanding of what the different angles actually do, until you find the time to actually learn, what the angles do and fit them to your actual needs.
Quinn has a video on that very task. th-cam.com/video/2OzRtY8SVcM/w-d-xo.html
I started with insert tooling from day one, and that works for me.
@@Stefan_Van_pellicom If you can afford them and your machine is up to it, that is a good option.
Thanks!
A thing to consider on the PPE front: if you wear a wedding ring, buy something dedicated to store it in, and TAKE IT OFF BEFORE YOU WORK. Lots of people don't count it as jewellery. Yes, it sucks to take it off, but degloving is no joke, and it'll suck a lot more if your wedding ring gets damaged. Same goes for any electrical work above 48V or with high-current supplies.
Literaly just came across your channel while finishing of DIPA brew day. Using a diy arduino temp control in between working on my latest welding project. Was researching 3d printing wishing I had a lathe in between hop additions. Your channel description is basically everything I'm into. Add firearms and it would be a one stop shop. Awesome channel with great tutorials!
Hi Quinn,
At the tenderage of 65 i have, out of the blue developed this absolute obsession about restoring old and rusted metal objects. I just love making old and well made objects as good as new again. Replacing screws and other parts has pointed me to your site for information and some know how. I love your way of presenting as well as your down to earth manner.
Thank you for an excellent site, i am subscribed and will undoubtedly enjoy many more of your videos. Thank you,
Johan
I would have added a good 6" machinist rule. Otherwise after 10 years as a hobbyist machinist I agree with everything your said and wish you had said it 10 years ago.
Agree with the need for a 6” scale, but I’ve found just one isn’t adequate. I have around 10; one for every place I might conceivably lay one down, and one more for my apron pocket.
The 6" inch and metric combo rules are incredibly useful. And have several, if your shop is messy like mine! 😂
@@Reach41 One in the apron, one stuck to each machine with a magnet.
Thanks
My pick for video of the week! Clear and concise as always. So many creators fall into the trap of repetition, circling around the same bush. Your efforts in planning and prep are much appreciated.
25:40 This bit about steady stream of projects is verbal gold. Thank you!
Just came across this Blondiehacks series. I'm a hobby woodworker and have been "metal curious". I've watched This Old Tony, etc, for entertainment and always felt machining was too far outside my wheelhouse. Now, not so much. Thanks for the uploads and information. Instant subscriber here.
Moving my 200lb lathe is an all day project because I have to clean a path between target and destination ;)
You have an available destination???
@@Tinker001 it's like, the opposite side of the same workbench :)
@@VoidedWarranty doesn't that include cleaning the destination and all the space in between?
@@mpikas yup and the path for the hoist and where did I even put that thing and ugh the lathe is so dirty back there and crap now I've got a sliver so I've gotta dig out the microscope... Reorganizing my shop is very much yak shaving
Path? clean? these words I do not recognize...
I really liked this video. Good sensible information shot in a "This Old Tony"/ AvE format but much more down to earth and practical. Still, nice bits of humor sprinkled throughout.
My son and I started watching this channel for the steam engine build, he is fascinated with steam.
Thank you for another great video. The hours you put in on the backside in production is greatly appreciated.
Quinn. I always enjoy every single video you make because they are so informative and NO ONE has talked down to me or force fed me anything. I learn from every video and I never intend to get into machining. Thank you so much for making all of the videos and please don't stop. The world needs you. Oh, I DO have my own murder machines to flog me occasionally too. In the garage ..waiting ....
Another consideration for selecting lathes and mills is not just the space but also the power supply. For 2 HP and up you'll probably need three phase power, which may be unavailable or prohibitively expensive.
Depends also on your location I know people in the US don't have 3 phase power as standard in their homes, where as in my home country if you have a house you have at least 1 if not multiple 3 phase outlets.
Very educational for beginners. Great video.!👍🏻
One of your best “how to” videos yet. I’m so glad I found your channel when I did. It’s been like a fun climb up the learning curve with a comedic shop teacher. Thanks for sharing.
I started my tool and die career 43 years ago, and also taught high school machine shop along the way. It's sad how school systems have disemboweled practically every shop class in the past thirty years. Keep up the great work!
My interest in machining goes back to Lindsay Publishing catalogs and particularly Dave Gingery's machine shop plans. Since then I spent significant time helping in machine shops, playing as a blacksmith, working in a couple foundries, and currently working sheet metal on the Trans Alaska Pipeline.
All of that to say, I am a serious fan. Keep up the great work!
LOVE your approach and your realistic knowledge. It's so funny to me how many "experts" there are here on YT and it makes the whole thing seem unapproachable. But you make it seem totally possible to have a hobby machine shop. That's really cool and I love it! And you're so right about tools - buy cheap and replace/upgrade what breaks or when you feel like you want something a little nicer. That's outstanding advice and sometimes it gets lost in the "only use these tools" crowd. Well done.
Glad I started here. With info this good I already know that I'm a few years out from having the cash and time to invest in this hobby interest mainly based on a significant backlog of home improvement and mechanical projects. Heck, I want to tool and skill up on metal fab first, for that matter, which is a natural extension of some of the car/bike projects! Thanks for making it so approachable and deflating totalizers!
Bought my first lathe four days ago - 1949 South Bend 9A. Two days of assembly and my first project is replacing the missing dauber on the tail stock. I need more has cutters - it only came with two! But it has the taper attachment, quick change gearbox, power cross feed, steady rest, dogs, faceplate, Chuck, collets 3C and virtually zero wear on the ways or tail stock base. And it is a collectible since it is stamped “US ARMY” in several places. And it is VERY quiet.
So, I just pulled the trigger on the Precision Matthews 1022V because of you. I really enjoy your videos. I have learned a ton from you and you are appreciated.
Best video I’ve watched for a while. It makes me feel good that you recommend so much equipment when I did the same. I am a woodworker having a go at metal machining. I like machining brass and aluminium, but not at all keen on steel. You say Use good materials for learning. The same applies to woodworking.These days I use my machines more for wood! , but I’m glad I invested. No pockets in shrouds.
About the lathe. I went to the store to buy the Craftex (sold in Canada) equivalent of the one you have. They had some "refurbished" (more like returned) machinery for almost half the price. The thing is someone before me bought the lathe I was looking for and what they had left was a CX709. The CX709 has a shorter bed and no speed controller. However, it is a gearhead lathe with more swing over bed, a MT5 and bigger bore on the headstock and MT3 on the tailstock. Honestly, the popularity of the variable speed controller is overrated when you move to a medium size bench machine. I learned the basics on an toolroom lathe and you don't need the "infinite speed variation" within the range, six speeds can do a lot, and if you need more change, the belt and you get another twelve speeds. So if you are considering buying the same (or equivalent) as Quin get the gearhead instead. The price difference is not that big and the CX709 includes the stand (mine came without it because it wasn't brand new).
About projects I recommend to get some books from the well known Workshop Practice Series.
*Useful Machine Tools To Make [Stan Bray]
*Metal Lathe [Harold Hall]
*Milling [Harold Hall]
These these have enough projects to keep a hobbyist busy for quite a long time and you will probably end up with a lot of useful tools and accessories.
Have to agree with you 100% on the Workshop Practice Series books out of the UK; similarly, George H. Thomas' books from TEE Publishing are excellent. Not sure if they're still readily available, but Canadian author Guy Lautard's three Machinist Bedside Readers are also very good.
So I went to school for 4 years for marine engineering....took a class called Machine Tool Tech which was all on an old $417 southbend. I have been playing with my own mini lathe making small parts/odds and ends for motorcycles/jet skis/boats/equipment for the past 8 years. I just learned more in 28 minutes than all that previous time combined. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I know a handful of machinist and I believe that you people are the smartest of the smart and the best teachers out there!
Don’t forget Dykem. Life without having spilled a whole container of it isn’t worth living!
Vivid/Sharpie markers are good for the hobbiest. I use them at work 95% of the time because there's always one in my pocket.
@@mhagnew True, but you can’t spill those. 🤪
@@Reach41 Oh, you can if you try. I have the shirt to prove it.
@@Reach41 Leave your sharpie on the bench while swapping out the mill vise...
You'll spill the sharpie.
Dykem.....If your only measuring tool is a tape measure.Been a tool maker for 30+ years and a shop supervisor for over 10 of that.Get a fine line marker such as Penmark ect.A regulay marker works well for most jobs.Dykem is very foul smelling and most types are known to cause cancer and the "remover" is worse.My 2 cents.
This is the voice of sanity as I get back into this 40 years later. Reminding me of a lot of stuff, informing me of a lot of new stuff. Thank you.
Great video. Thanks.
The rule around here is:
If you need it, buy it.
If you can't buy it, make it.
If you can't make it, you don't need it.
15:01 wish I'd seen this video *before* I destroyed my tailstock's live center despite having a pile of center drills in a box from a yardsale. Didn't know what they were for!
You REALLY know your subject, tools, and materials, very well, especially for your relatively young age. As far as I can tell, your advice is almost always "spot on". You have a particular personal perspective, as is inevitable for everybody, but most people would be very well advised to listen to you. [I'm very old, with a background in industrial arts, mechanical engineering, and manufacturing, so I know whereof I speak.]
I did the same one fault...first buying a small endmill, 2 years later then a Lathe...if i had known!!!! ; ) the lathe gives you so much more!
Quinn, thank you for the video content. No one on TH-cam, that I can find, has offered a extremely helpful video on getting started in machining for beginners. That's me! Watching too much TH-cam machinists (Quinn, Keith, the other Keith, Steve, Adam and Mr. Pete) and not practicing the craft. Gotta buy my equipment and get started! Thanks again for thinking of viewers like me.
You are awesome. You speak clearly and slow enough so I can understand you easily as a non-native speaker. In addition, as I'm no machinist but an interested hobbyist crafter, everything you say makes absolutely sense. Looking forward to watching further videos of yours. Keep up the great work. Greetings from Germany.
One of the most informative videos I’ve seen, wish you’d have done this 16 years ago!
Quinn thanks your hard work making these videos you a re a joy to watch. I see the heart of a teacher, get you humor completely I'm a disabled software engineer I took delivery on my first mill yesterday looking forward to first chips! lathe comes today s excited I can't sleep. thanks again for making this accessible to the machine curious.
Blondie is right about woodworking tools.
I worked in a furniture manufacturing plant for years.
Cellulose necromancy machines have a tendency to cut all your fingers the same length, or rip off most of your arm along with 3 of your fingers. (not kidding here)
I saw the aftermath of people cutting corners that were there for safety.
Thank the crafting gods our owner was smart enough to fun a baseball field next to the plant for life flight to land at to fly people to the best local trauma center.
hi, 14 year old that just got sucked into all of THIS. i made my own cnc mill over the last 6 months, that was a mistake. for the money i spent on the cnc i could have got a pretty good lathe that's like 20 times more precise.
sooo DONT BUY A MILL, or and even less, try to make one yourself with just a 3d printer and a hacksaw
A great, down to earth guide for those of us that are "metal curious."
This is a great video. The tip on buying a large but inexpensive drill index and selectively spending more on better quality drills used most often is brilliant.
Thanks for validating all that time spent tweaking my Linux setup.
I just bought my first mini lathe, for exactly the reason of space, but it can cut thread, variable speed etc, very nice, and it cant take the quick change cuting bit holder thing, so, i bought one, and made it fit😬, am definitely going to watch your videos......
Quinn, another way that amateurs have tried to have a lathe is by making one. The Gingery lathe is a good example. With your analytical mindset, I beg you to consider studying the Gingery lathe, reviewing its (many) weak aspects (metallurgy, rigidity...), and if there could be a Blondi alternative.
I was very fortunate to have been a friend of Dave Gingery. A wonderful, generous, humble man. I loved his books, but not so much as I wanted to build my own machines from start, but because they were for me an endless source of ideas for fixturing, methods of work, etc.
I totally agree with your suggestions, especially about not buying cheap taps. Nothing makes a happy, relaxing Sunday afternoon melt into a fiery rage than having a tap break off in the hole of the part you just spent 5 hours making. Ask me how I know. And pretty much any other hobby machinist, lol.
"Cheap taps are a nightmare. Don't buy them."
Something the science units folks and freedom units folks can agree upon. World peace will surely follow.
Add: drills, center drills, dies, endmills, chucks....
What are freedom units?
@@carlwilson1772 metric. The freedom of not having to use fractions all the time :-)
Lol love it.
@@Jacksparrow4986 Understood.
I personally am restoring an old 6" Craftsman that was missing some parts.With my eyes, I am not sure what I will do with it when I get it all together, but I am doing it more as a labor of love and nostalgia As for larger lathes, I tend to like the Clausing 16" as it had all the things I liked to use for work
Just bought my first small lathe/mill combo. This will be so interesting.
Happy chip making! May you stay metal-curious forever.
I'm just getting into how all this stuff works. And there are many excellent practitioners on TH-cam but none of them go into the basic basics as you've done here.
Thank you
Excellent summary. Plus the dirty hands and burned spots on your workbench always make me smile. Well done. Also, I feel your pain recording audio in a residential setting. Lawn mowers are the bane of my existence.
I bought a South bend 9x36 Junior on Craigslist for $2500 with a ton of tooling and can’t wait to get started!
Thank you for this excellent treatise, Quinn. Delivered with your usual delightful flair. I always learn something new from your videos. I loved seeing you and your steam engine on the Livestream of the Bar Z Bash 2021 raffle. Hope you are having a great time!
The value proposition analysis was an excellent addition to the video. As usual many thanks!
Ok, Ima be the machinist equivalent to the woodworking purist guy:
"Just get a good file and a good vise and start filing some dovetail ways or something. Once you get good at filing you can build up your workshop with other tools."
Fun fact, to become a machinist in Germany, you spend the first three to six months of your apprenticeship just filing and sawing by hand. Maybe a little chiseling.
(The apprenticeship - usually - takes between three and three-and-a-half years).
Back in the days when there WERE tool and die apprentices for the first year a file was just about the only tool they let you use.
Last startup I went to work for, I was in R&D doing electronics and building jigs and fixtures for the Production group. I had a steel table with a vise, a hacksaw, some files, and a Sears benchtop drillpress. After 2 years they had just got me a benchtop mill from Grizzly, and then decided that maybe we need a CNC and a real machinist. I made a lot of stuff for them before 'ol Mike took over for me.
@@angelusmaker Been there, done that. I was doing my PhD work at a Max Planck Institute and thought it would be a good opportunity to learn machine work. I did a "mini-apprenticeship" and spent the first 3 months filing cubes and hand sawing stock. I learned to file aluminium, soft steel, stainless, Perspex, etc. It wasn't always fun (!!), but it taught me so much about accuracy, patience and not accepting compromises. I never used these skills, outside of my own home shop, but I value them to this day (I'm almost 80 now).
Super helpful! You are spot-on with addressing the hobbyist perspective (of which I am one). Great advice. Thank you.
One question that strikes me for day one is "what to expect for cleanup and maintenance" - with all of the oils, chips, cutting fluids, etc - how does everything not quickly turn into a mess?
the answer is, everything turns quckly into a mess. wd40, shop towels, sand or better suited products to suck spillages, more shop towels and most importantly, shop towels (or old rags for the non important stuff).
Clean up after every process you finish. Sure it’s a lot of work, but a tidy shop is SO nice !
Final half hour of a day in the shop is ALWAYS spent on cleanup.
Excellent, logical rundown of getting started in metal work. Of course, where you are poses a completely different set of problems. A ground floor garage or shed is really a must for the big stuff. I have a spare bedroom in a social housing block so am a bit scuppered on the heavy noisy stuff. Above ground floor you can't even hammer on a table it creates so much vibration.
Ah ahh! AvE says to buy a mill due to the versatility of the mill. However, when I got my lathe I used it more and the mill became the helper machine.
Buy the lathe first, then give it enough time & it'll give birth to a small mill.
What about those units that are a mill with a lathe attached? No one ever talks about those!!
@@guitarchitectural Probably because nobody wants to admit to having one tucked away behind the real machine(s) in the shop...
@zomgthisisawesomelol he started out with, as he described it, a clapped out Bridgeport.
After using your lathe as a mill a few times, you will realize that it sucks, is a huge pain in the ass, and you will buy a mill.
Really nice job of placing everything, where they need to be. What I mean is that you have everything in place, in accord with you do the most, and by doing that you make the most of what you have. One thing you mentioned is very important and that light; people don't realize how important lighting is, it gets rid of shadows which can not only mak your work more difficult, but ruin what ever you're working on. Funny though, shadows are important in art work such as in paintings and all that. Anyway, thank you, I really enjoyed the tour of your shop. If I may, with your permission, I would like to ask everyone out there to please keep the buzz in the bottle, do not drink and drive, it really doesn't mix well at all and it can have devastating results. I wish everyone has a very happy, and safe holiday season.
You described my recent thoughts in the first 30 seconds... nice!
Lol. 3:32ish, your spot on quin first op I ever did on a mill was to put a slot Into an aluminum (not aluminium) tube.
(Not chube) thanks for all your wonderful videos and work
I’m a simple man - I see a new blondihacks video, I click like.
P.s. as someone who as a machine shop in my spare bedroom on the first floor(2nd floor for some of the world, as 1st floor is ground floor here in England), and has had to carry 3 lathes and a milling machine upstairs, the moving aspect of the machines is extremely important to emphasise, which is something I feel loads of these videos forget to mention. Fantastic video as always, Quinn.
Ever try to move a 9" South Bend lathe into the lower basement of a split-level house?
(Never buy a split-level house. EVER!)
@@Tinker001 I always wanted a split level. There's something I just like about them.
@@onestopfabshop3224
When your older your knees may not like them 🤔
@@onestopfabshop3224 Don't do it!
3 sets of stairs in what amounts to a bungalo...
Awkward plumbing & wiring...
Completely non-functional HVAC due to poor airflow...
@@greghomestead8366 May have to rethink that!
I’m working with a 9 inch 120 year old Dalton change gear lathe with separate screw feed. AND just got a 1963 17 x 42 Leblond Regal to go with the table top Hardinge horizontal mill and the Bridgeport.
I had to create a building to accommodate it all. I think I have a problem. Woodworking, metalwork, welding, blacksmithing.. uhoh
@17:26 - surprised me and I agree that you don't see any of them being used on TH-cam. Maybe that is a void you can fill???? 🙂
Bravo Quinn! This is a spectacularly info-packed video. Thanks!
I'm an RN and have been metal curious for a while watching a assortment of your videos, I just ordered a small Minila The and tooling. Thanks for the education and encouragement! I have no idea what I'm doing but hope to learn some new skills and make something cool!
Couldn’t make it a quarter way in without a solid like on this. The screaming banshees of death got me laughing!
Great infromative just ordered 12L 14 after watching your video of what metals to use .. Thanks
There were a painful amount of extremely recognizable thruths in this video !
I don't even have a home shop but I've watched all your videos in the past year
Hello Quinn,
You've made a really good video for anyone on page one, chapter one... Well done...
Take care.
Paul,,
Hi Paul, good to see you!
Lovely introduction to a hobby with a steady delivery of information, options and reasoning. Subscribed after a few minutes.
A pleasure to watch:)
Awesome video Quinn, I hate that youtube comments and creators and pro machinists are so anal about correct terms and tools needed that you need to have a disclaimer for every single suggestion. You've made an excellent video on starting in machining, and since I started watching you almost a couple years ago now, since I got my little optimum lathe, I've gotten away with most of these tools no problem, and still come out with decent parts, and that's with only one dial indicator, and one micrometer :O (oh no the machinists will string me up!) Keep at it, very very helpful video, and brought up a couple tools that I keep forgetting to get myself :P dont listen to the hate, you achieve stellar results 9 times out of 10, and you're ballsy enough to show any errors you make. You make real, proper content that a real person can use!!
I fully endorse your comments regarding the humble engine hoist. All machine tools are heavy and having an on-hand safe way of moving them is essential. These can be hired fairly cheaply but that involves obviously going to the tool hire place so it's tempting to say nah I can do it myself. A dropped tool can be repaired of replaced but a back injury risks a life-time of pain.
Great video, I always think I should buy a mill first as I can see that being more useful for me (and it would replace my small drill press) but you make good points for buying a lathe first!
When I first entered a workshop in my teens we used a lathe with work piece attached to cross slide to performing milling. Not ideal but it filled the technical gap. Took me 40 years before I realised you could do the opposite and use a mill as a crude lathe, so I always recommended getting a lathe first. Anyway what is mill other than uprated drill press with an added crossslide.
Bought a mill first then when I need to turn something I bought a rotary table for the mill, not fast but cheaper than a lathe.
'randomly' came across this video and I say randomly because i'm into cars and mechanics and welding but this was an easy instant watch. and I was just thinking about cool stuff to make the whole time, thank you for introducing me to this world. i DO need a lathe!
Thanks Quinn! This was a very useful guide for n00bs like myself wanting to start a homeshop adventure :)