Making a BOLT ACTION Pen || INHERITANCE MACHINING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 พ.ค. 2024
- Welcome back to the machine shop! This video I’ll be tackling a project I’ve wanted to revisit for 8 years; a bolt action copper pen. I manually machined a custom pen years ago as a Christmas gift for my father-in-law and have been itching to make one for myself. While I was able to find the old prints I threw together back then, I’ll start at the drafting board and put together proper engineering drawings. The will be made from both 110 copper and 410 stainless steel, with a few button head screws, and a nice ballpoint pen ink cartridge thrown in the mix. Most of the work will be done on the manual lathe, though I do get to visit the vertical milling machine and try out the rotary table chuck adapter I spent 3 long videos building. The final part of the pen will be a stainless steel clip that I’ll use a ball peen hammer to work harden before forming into its final shape. Enjoy!
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:28 Therapy Session
3:13 Lube All the Things
4:21 Threading Backwards?
6:22 Trickery
7:39 May the 4th (axis) be with you!
8:56 I said ALL THE THINGS!
10:13 Let's try this again, shall we?
11:18 Fancy Schmancy
12:22 Not the Kind of Bolt You are Thinking
13:47 Technically a Nut
14:38 Some Assembly Required
15:37 Just Beat the Devil Out of It
16:40 She cleans Up Nicely!
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Thanks for watching folks! Hope you enjoyed this little break away from my typical machine tool related builds. If you'd like a copy of the drawings to tackle the project yourself, check out my Patreon page.
Next project will be a new (and improved) take on an old favorite. Stay tuned for that on October 28th at 10am EST!
Honestly your methodology, side projects, and overall production style are what drew me to your channel. The projects could be anything and I'll be watching!
not unique, someone else made one before thattttt pne
if you ever decide to sell these, i'd absolutely buy one!
As an engineering student, I adore the drafting segments.
Hello, the ATF requests your location. A geotag connectable to a predator drone would also be acceptable
As a design engineer who uses computers to do drawings, its really cool to see hand done drafting
Dude, absolutely agree. Looks way more impressive than when I do it on the computer.
love a good orthographic projection!
(I could never do curves though)
same, I legit stared in disbelief at him doing by hand what I do with a template.
I was amazed when I saw those old drafting tables 😂
Cad just makes things so easy I would have no idea where to even start to do this by hand.
I still can't believe this is a nearly brand new channel. The production quality is incredible. You could've convinced me this channel existed for 10+ years before I went back and watched the first few episodes
Thank you very much! I got a huge head start with the help of my wife. She's a pro!
True !
@@InheritanceMachining How does she contribute to the quality of your videos?
@@mrraimundo130 Yes - I too would love to hear more about this. Thanks for asking.
@@InheritanceMachining Is she the videographer/editor/color grader/audio engineer?
Tell her she's doing a fantastic job.
At first I thought, "Why doesn't he do the diagrams digitally? That would be so much faster and easier." As the video continued I began to have an appreciation for the fact that everything was done manually.
Yeah apparently he does 3D design for work so I liked manual drafting
I took some drafting classes in college a while back and it's so much more satisfying than 3d modeling on a PC. Even doing the lettering and dimensioning is satisfying. PC software is great for production speed but drawing out plans by hand is extremely gratifying.
I also prefer drawing manually. It is a true satisfaction
@@thachester Given the hellscape that is licencing and updates and other computer trouble, pen and paper may be faster than CAD again.
@@MazeFrame Strongly disagree on the fast part. No matter how fast you can draw with a pencil. Modelling software will always be faster.
However, drawing by hand does do something that CAD lacks. It forces you to think more intentionally about every line you draw and every dimension you put down on the paper. Ive noticed that with CAD I find myself roughing out a part withing literal seconds. And then spending a significant amount of time trying to fine tune it.
I have absolutely no idea what I'm watching, but I can't stop. I've never machined anything in my life but the quality of this video is so sky high I literally can't stop watching. Well done.
Same here.
Same here!!!, 😃
Same
I totally resonate!
Same
The fact that this channel is less than a year old is staggering. The production quality is incredible and it's already gotten the attention of a few big names in the TH-cam maker space. Keep up the good work!
I really appreciate you kind words. Thank you!
@@InheritanceMachining >
When you mentioned using steel and copper together my first thought was Galvanic Corrosion, I am glad you addressed that.
Your attention to detail is amazing.
Thank you, Sir!
It's amazing on how you hand-made all the drafts in a professional manner. Most novices in the world of Advanced Manufacturing(myself included!) only learn dimetric sketching(some also learn trimetric sketching), most blueprints used are created via design programs(like Solidworks). I'll definitely stick around to see more. I may be more experienced in computer-based design, and claim it is in most cases better, I'll still enjoy it.
Thanks. Yeah I've used CAD (SW, Inventor, Creo) for school and work for like the last 15 years. While CAD is definitely faster for me, I just enjoy breaking away from the screen for the shop projects. I'm lucky to have had 4 years of drafting in high school
I also was very impressed by this. I’ve used Autodesk Inventor at uni, and it’s so easy to do it with a CAD programme like that. His work doing it that neatly by hand is impressive, and not to mention it must have been time consuming!
Ah, the younger generations don't learn all the original skills. Back in the day, CAD was the exotic beast that experienced draftsmen and machinists didn't know how to use without special training. Oh, and AutoCAD was not something you just picked up figured out! Oh, but the workstations had these cool X-Y input devices that had like a phone number pad on the back rather than just left/right buttons. Not entirely direct GUI manipulation, you had to enter commands and point to where you wanted to draw, as well.
You could tell me this was a tv show with 5 producers and a full crew and id believe it. Not only are the projects and style refreshing and top notch quality but the production is impeccable. Quickly becoming one of my favorite channels
Wow.. thank you so much!
I wish I saw this on bpc with a cool intro, maybe a few meows.
Indeed, beats 3 of the 4 last programs I saw on TV and the fourth was The Hobbit. Beautiful.
This is how I felt watching Norm Abrams as a kid.
I think you just unlocked some deep, subconscious, long forgotten inspiration 😁 Thanks, Destin
@@InheritanceMachining Listen you two, this is TH-cam. Creators are supposed to only be interacting with each other via drama baiting and petty greivances! If I can't see a random channel talking about this conversation over a video of them playing CS:GO Surf, then what even is the point? Look, I know you two are used to being "respectful adults", or whatever, but that crap doesn't fly around here! I'll let it slide this time but if it happens again I'm reporting you two to the algorithm...
@@fictionmyth 😂😂😂
@@fictionmyth 🤣🤣
@@fictionmyth This comment is criminally underliked!
Man i wish i had you as a dad/grandpa to soak in all the knowledge you havin in machining. This channel is awesome. I hope you make tons and tons more videos
I haven’t watched the full video yet but this guy’s fingernails fascinate me more than the pen😭You can tell he’s dedicated his life to machinery just by looking at his hands. Respect.
Building small things on big machines is not easy, you showed a lot of "finesse", great job!
Thanks, Jose! I felt especially silly using the 250lb rotary chuck assembly to make that tiny little bolt handle.
21 years old and you’re inspiring me to become a machinist like yourself. Might change career paths just to do it too. Your meticulousness and skills blow my mind away and I hope there’s more people my age out there that like this as much as I do. Please keep up the amazing work.
Do it. It's a great career path that isn't going away anytime soon. All of the industries are starving for good machinists.
Dude that's so awesome! Go for it! I'm just getting started on this path myself, but I feel like if you have a passion for it like me, you wont regret it. Thank you!
I started with a computer science degree, 0 experience, and a couple of Harbor Freight benchtop CNC machines (2 mills and a lathe) and after 12 years I have 3 full size Haas machining centers and 2 Haas CNC lathes - purchased brand spanking new. The money is there, do the work right and get it done on time. I put in 60 hours a week but it's worth it.
I’m 13 and really getting into woodwork and forgery, I’m allready made a few tables and a katana out of wood and a few Christmas decorations out of metal. They’re not the best but it’s pretty fun
@@gibsoncaleb it's a dieing art that companies are trying to computerize as much as possible, but some things robots just cant do yet. so get good at making new stuff and dont worry about anything mass production related
The drafting arm and the lead clutch which you rotate as you pull it along the straight edge -- a blast from my past. Nice work! I worked in architecture and machine design in the 70s and 80s, and I always found drafting a pure joy. I also just love your approach: straightforward, beautiful work.
the close ups of oiled copper being machined might just be the prettiest thing ive seen ever
I love how you kept the pen clip with the dents as it was, its so subtle, yet adds so much to the design and feel of the pen!
The beauty of this build hit me hard. Im 25, at the end of a law degree, no job on sight, and feeling in my heart just how much i want to leave it all just to be able to create stuff as neat as this simple pen
Finish your degree, come to accept the fact that the law degree was a waste of time, become at peace, and do something completely different from your degree for a job.
It's not like you've got many options these days innit?
A secret of life is that a lót of people end up with a job they didn't study for.
Do try and finish that degree though! Don't throw away those years of working hard, who knows how it may come in handy.
@@TheRealDrae To Be Honest - this happens to a lot of people who do 'hard' degrees - I work for a universityand really interesting where people end up.
@@TheRealDrae It’s scary how accurate this is….
I'm from Argentina, and I go to a technical school and this year i've started building a brass pen. The thing is that they made us draw the pen from an already drawn pen and it's parts, but I just realized that it came from here, and I can't believe it. They do lots of projects like this at my school, but it makes sense now because they told me that they've started making these pens this year. I make lots of draws in Autocad and my teacher gave me the task to modify the drawing in order to use the terms of technical draw that we use here in Argentina (for example, instead of using inches we use millimeters, etc.). I have been watching your channel from quite a long time, and i'm really proud of you and your work! (new subscriber)
17 minutes of pure joy. One of the most satisfying things I've watched this year❤️
There's a quality that much-handled copper gets that's hard to beat. Heirloom stuff indeed.
Your craftsmanship is astounding. This is the kind of trinket that someone treasures for the rest of their lives.
I get the feeling you had an amazing grandfather. I too learned a ton from mine. More than from my father. Miss him everyday.
Culture of gents gather around to watch your video. Such a cherry on top
I've seen plenty of machining videos, but this is the first channel I've seen that included the design drawing process. It's cool to see the process and your explanation as you sketch out each part
The fact that you designed it on paper... Dude! You are oldschool, real craftman!
Please accept my appreciation from Hungary!
I forgot how much I loved drafting by hand. Took a class years ago. I really got into the class. And I’m not artistic at all. So thanks for bringing that back for me. Love the work!
I’ve never machined anything in my life, I’ve done some woodworking and stuff before but this is so fascinating and the idea of a bolt action pen like that is genius
Can’t wait to see what else you do!
The weathered and used pen next to the new one is so satisfying. Well done!
Thanks! It will take a few years to get there, but I that will make it all the more special
The cool part is that the copper is antimicrobial and it will develop a unique patina as a result from the oils on your skin. If you end up not liking the patina, you can always polish it off and make the pen look brand new (a brass pen will also have these same features due to the similar properties of both metals). With the right technique, you may even be able to "shipwreck" the copper (forcing copper corrosion in order to develop a unique turquoise pattern for aesthetic purposes which is usually then preserved by a sealant or clear protective coating). I have two bolt action pens in my collection so far. I own a Bastion bolt action pen which is a blue coated aluminum (it is rather bulky, but I like the feeling of extra robustness) and a copper version of the Refyne bolt action pen (way more compact and fancier then the Bastion pen making it an excellent choice as part of a gentleman's EDC). Both of these bolt action pens have various price and material options (the Bastion pen has tons of size, material, and color options as well as a similar line of mechanical pencils) which all take standard Parker Jotter cartridges. I carry the Bastion pen with me almost everywhere I go and I usually have a Fisher Space Bullet Pen (matte black version with matching clip), Tombow Airpress, or Victorinox Swisscard Classic (has a mini blue ink pressurized pen as part of the tool set) to accompany it. I save the Refyne for fancier occasions or for when I need a slightly more compact option to fit in the pocket.
I remember watching this video when it was first posted and thinking it would be so cool to make something like that for myself. Now I'm going to an AMT school and I'll be making a pen for my final project in shop class! I won't directly copy this build, but I'll be borrowing some of the techniques used here in my own design.
You sir, are a magician.
The level of mastery is amazing
You are very kind. Thank you
1:32 Just the act of properly squaring and taping my drafting paper is enough to give me goosebumps. God I miss it.
That drafting part was so cool. I couldn't stand doing that myself but I can recognize the beauty and skill of it. This pen also looks sooo cool
It definitely reminds of the patience I lack!
As a CNC/CAD guy that started on the drafting table in the days when they all had ashtrays, I love watching you do things manual. Great stuff to play in the back ground as I work on my clients parts!
I really liked, how even the drawing was made nice enough to have it framed and hang to the wall looking like a piece of art.
As a construction designer working on a manual drawingboard like yours until the mid90s (before CAD took over) I really can relate to that.
Btw. I could have saved that part with the broken centerdrill on my EDM drilling machine.
Greetings from Germany
Can I borrow you EDM next time? 😉
Thanks!
@@InheritanceMachining you could just move the hole 2mm down and it would look like old one
Literally sat down and thought, I haven't seen a new vid from Inheritance Machining recently, I wonder if I missed an upload... 9 minutes earlier.
Same, but like last night. Saw he made a post saying he was uploading today!
😂 we are timed perfectly
I wanted to say that I find your designs and process just so incredibly satisfying to watch. The fact that you seemingly leave no stone un-turned, taking no shortcuts to the preparation and drawing stage of your ideas. Producing drawings that would in and of themselves be decent topic/material for videos just adds such depth and tranquil to your videos and work, and is hands down such a big part of my enjoyment of tuning in to your channel. Hope you'll be on here a long time and find immense joy in making now and in the future. Much appreciation and respect to you man! :)
I used to work as a machinist over 5 years ago and I think I’ll just revisit your channel every time I’m missing my old job. The work conditions were absolutely terrible but I loved the work itself.
I am in my final year of Mechanical Engineering, I have always been impressed of the quality an experience machinist's work has. What impresses me even more in your channel is the fact that your drawings look better than many CAD generated ones I have seen, Congratulations! Most of the people I look up to and hope to learn proper design methodologies from would only ever hope to be half as good as you with a pencil!
Thank you very much!
Its so cool hearing the reasoning behind each action, even down to the choice of materials you made sure this pen is gonna last!
Love coming back to these early vids to see how many tools you’ve made and where you started.
We like all these tiny things! Nice work, your grand children will be proud of you!
That is an awesome project in and of itself. The backstory and awesome production quality round’s it of.
You made a pen to last a lifetime.. twice👍🏻
Thank you! Hopefully I'm not too hard on it!
the way you improvise on tooling and techniques is amazing love your vids
Thank you 😁
“Ask me how I know” is so real.
The kids disassembling their pens in the back of class are gonna have a lot of fun with this one
Dude, your work is AWESOME. The work you put into it, the sleek copper design, the fact it's BOLT ACTION- I freaking WISH my dad was half as cool as you!
I gotta say it’s fantastic how you can draw a blueprint so smoothly, I use premade blueprints as a machinist but you made one
I really like the hand drawing you do. Being old school myself, (actuality took 2 years of drafting Vocational in the early 70's) I enjoy a hand drawn blueprint. Hardly anyone does that anymore.
anybody who uses this to write stories is the most american author ever
Nice Project and well executed! What i only like more from the original draw is the "J" slot. It's reversed so the the bolt lever in rest position don't interfere when you slide the clip into a pocket. I think also if you give more angle of the clip towards the barrell, so that when you screw into place the clip will touch and give a little tension against the barrell, It would be finished better and It would help to secure firmly the pen into a pocket without risking dropping it if you lean forward. Can't wait to see your next videos!
You'd better be careful Brandon, a friend of mine (definitely not me) said they're expecting side projects for every video going forward and that they'd be very upset if there were an absence haha. Amazing work as always (both machining and cinematography). Keep it up mate!
Oh snap.. I better make up some stuff when the projects going too smoothly 😂 Thanks, man!
@@InheritanceMachining just mix it up by cleaning the gutters, changing a light bulb or weed trimming if the project goes too smooth. I’m sure it will get some good chuckles.
@@mpyoung33 Oh man you've got the ideas churning now 😂
Ahh finally ... A MENS FIDGET TOY!!! YESSSIR
This is an absolute masterpiece. A thing of beauty, precision and quality. I would be proud to even hold the thing, let alone own it
I work as a mech eng/ designer/ drafter and have a surface level understanding of marching. This is amazing!!!
That's really nice mate! A cool addition might be to add a knurled section to the grip. Nothing like a bit of knurling to give that ultra quality precision machined look. That clip does look amazing next the machined bolt lever and the two screws look very industrial. Love it
You make manual look so calm and relaxing. 😂
I need this 😭😭 you never can have enough pens. And something like this is not a pen. It's legacy.
When I was a kid one of my dad’s friends made a pen like that in his shop and I always wanted to play with it. He made me one when I got to highschool and I’ve had it ever since.
I’ve only ever done CAD work and a decent amount of manual work but that hand drafting looks amazing man well done
He is the exact definition of an artisan
i wish i had a workshop like that with the nuance skill set you have
I have never wanted something this much in my entire life.
Very much enjoy the machining, but the detail drawings are all an art of their own. Well done! Time to order a shirt.
I'm glad! 😁 Thanks for the support!
@@InheritanceMachining You could scan the blueprints too! I would definitely use it as a poster.
I would pay an insane amount of money for this pen and not regret it for one second.
Email me 😁
Soooo could someone elses also pay stupid mone for this?
@@Whopa45 they can be bought on amazon, not sure if they are licenced or if IM has copied them but they are out there.
This perfectly combined 2 interests of mine. Creating a custom pen and machining. Too bad I don't know a darn thing about machining, but it looks like a good time. The creative in me wants to learn and make. Thanks for sharing!
i think the fact it is your favourite construction makes it all the more a precious gift to henry.
jeremy schmidt made a bolt action pen a while ago, with replaceable ink cartridges. One thing I really like from his design is the fact he added a textured grip to the pen, which also disguises the seam between the top half and the bottom. I highly recommend checking out his video on it if anyone plans on making a bolt action pen. Take the best ideas from both!
I think you are the first person I see who writes an exclamation mark from the bottom up, interesting ;)
I'm a real wildcard 😉
we had an old guy who made pens similar to these. theyre just so cool. best novelty christmas gifts ever
On top of the skill to just be able to do this, the amount of editing that went into this video is amazing. Your hardwork is appreciated!
I love how the old version of his pen did one thing better, which he seemingly forgot on his new one… the bolt doesn’t get in the way of the clip. Showcased at 17:35 you can see how the new one would have trouble going on a stack of paper in the closed position.
Came here for this. Still awesome work nonetheless
Looks beautiful. I really like the hammered texture against everything else. Nice job.
Thanks!
i sould see work hardening being usefull for home DIY stuff too. great tip.
Thank you for teaching a very useful approach to machining. I am learning a lot of layout, and measuring from your videos
Now THIS is what I need to not get bored in school
Love your channel. I recently built a tap wrench based on your design from an early video on your channel. One of my most satisfying builds.
That's awesome! I'd love to see it. Thanks for the support!
Great video as always!
Something that might help next time a bit or tap breaks in brass, copper or bronze (maybe others, I'm not sure) you can put it in a solution of regular food grade pickling alum and hot water and it will dissolve the steel without harming the non-ferrous metal!
I recently had something similar happen with a tap in a bronze part and found this tip on a clockmakers forum after much swearing and frustration. It is an amazing trick in a pinch.
Thanks! That's really interesting. I'll definitely have to get some of that to keep on hand. Probably would have taken me longer to run to town and find it at a grocery than it did to start over.
You could have possibly have drilled from the opposite face. Knock out the centre drill tip and then plug your extra hole with a tight plug of the same copper? PS little tip on that style of centre drill.. don't remove the tip section as you dill. Just use a micro lift as you peck/ break swarf. Problem is if you lift the nose above the work every so often swarf will fall in and you can tear the tip off. Yes lube well. Was my secret technique!
Just look at this dude's hands... Now THAT'S someone with experience, and an ocean of knowledge as a result!
I am an absolute fan of the old school, hand drafting. Reminds me of my time in college using nearly the same setup. A quick recommendation, when using the drafting pencil it is a good habit to spin the pencil as you are drawing your lines. This keeps the lead”graphite” at a constant point, rather than having your most consistent drawing edge become flat and giving unwanted think lines or darker edges. You may know this already, just noticed it when you were drafting your plans so thought I’d pass it along. Great work!
This is super neat. I don't necessarily want to think about how much the machining labor would cost to have this kind of thing made for me, but it's neat :)
love your channel and the videos you make. every video is fantastic. and im so happy when i see a new one is released. thanks for creating this wonderful stuff.
I really appreciate that! Thank you
As a 25yo who hasn't learned cad/cam In happy to see work done like this. I'm an outlier in my age bracket at most shops but hey, still get my jobs done.
This brings me back to my RTU days.
This is amazing, I would totally buy a pen like that, it reminds me of a company called Tactile Turn based in texas that makes a similar pen out of different metals like titanium and zirconium
As a nuclear engineer, I'd love one made of zirconium, the metal that nuclear fuel is encapsulated in.
Thanks to your comment I went and ordered a pen from tactile turn, man am I bad with money at 3am.
@@michaellu6900 And he even has Zirconium, what every nuclear engineer must have. My plastic is screaming.
How does their design do refills?
👍A spot drill as opposed to a cdrill can save a some headaches. I use stub length drills for everything unless I need the extra length and don't spot or cdrill. Most things are accurate enough that way. A small carbide mill would have gotten the broken tip out. Looks great.
Thanks for tips. Unfortunately I didn't have anything carbide that small on hand... so remaking was faster than ordering and waiting!
Found this channel just a few days ago.
My dad was a machinist for 23 years. He passed away in 2015. So many regrets never making the time to have him pass these skills down to me.
I hope to be able to soon begin assembling my own machining supplies, and getting a start down the path. For my own curiosity and interests and in a little way, to retain a piece of the old man I no longer have around.
So sorry about that, man. I'm glad you are willing to find your own way into this trade despite that. Good luck
"No Henry I dont want it back, I'll just make a new one" perfection
I came up with a pretty similar design a few years ago during my apprenticeship, but mine is made from titanium. It was one of my favourite little projects back then
would you mind making one of these for me as a comission?
@@RoZZ92 I don’t have access to the machines and equipment needed, but I could give you the drawings (metric and in german)
Wow that's a beautiful pen! Definitely a pen that would be a pleasure to own.
Thank you!
I just finished watching the pen and I'm going to take all the clips in chronological order
Makes me miss my drafting table. Been ages.
Great story, great build and a well deserved treat for yourself, kids and G-Kids! Nice Arrow Heads BTW, I always had trouble with consistency on those. Tough materials to work with, especially with tolerances and 2-56's but you pulled it off in your usual aplomb and excellence and who doesn't love 2-56 button heads. Kind of looked like a Parker insert¿ I imagine the weight is real nice and balance better now. Not sure I have the tools for this but am now on my 4th Yasumoto quad point in ~4 decades and obviously love them for their trick mechanism, weight, balance, 3 colors and pencil. Your vids are a real treat in every sense...Thank You for your time, really good story telling and the quality you bring to the community! ~PJ
Thank you for all the kind words! You could still make one as a gift. Anyone that has any appreciation for handmade items, or machining/engineering in general you cherish such a gift!
I would love to buy one! Thanks for another great video.
Thank you as always! I'd be open to that actually
@@InheritanceMachining I sent you an email. Thanks
This was the video that I initially saw in my feed that brought me to this channel.
I'm watching it for probably the third or fourth time now, and I have to say I respect the absolute power move of saying "No Henry, I don't want it back" and then placing down version 2.0 next to the original 😂
The stark contrast of improvment in both skill and tooling just makes me laugh every time. ❤
A freaking drawing table though! I love it.
It never was about final results but the side projects we make along the way ❤
As a wood turner I really appreciate this project. Good job!
Thanks!
No better advertisement than this project that fabulous design and machining can still be accomplished without the aid of a computer. Hats off to you sir. 👌👏👏👍😀
Thank you!
stunning work
Another amazing project, quality as always. It looked to me like the bolt is too close to the clip though for the clip to function at its best. Looks like it would get caught on your pocket.
you spotted my next side project 😉 Thanks!