Fighter Pilot Reacts to WW3 with China vs. United States

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  • @MaxAfterburnerusa
    @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Hello Jet Team! Thanks for checking out this video. You can pop over to bejetclean.com if you'd like to join my mailing list or grab some of our merch, most of all have a GREAT day.

    • @JYF921
      @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There was a saying in the PLAAF:
      Instructor: "Why do you dogfight?"
      Student: "Because I have supermaneuvrability (in my Flanker?)?"
      Instructor: "No, because you are an idiot"
      This pretty much sums up that China doesn't put much money into dogfighting, rather prefers to put 2 close range missiles (think PL8, PL10, very modern heatseekers) on the jet and call it a day. They much more prefer the integrated system of satellites, AWACS aircraft (think KJ500, 2000), land and naval based radars, and long range drones for detecting an enemy and shooting at it from far away (using PL12 and PL15 missiles that at least from range is equal or superior to western missiles). This philosophy might also be why China loves delta wings, because they work very well at supersonic speeds and that's what you need for a plane to shoot a missile as far as it can by giving good initial energy.
      As for which side fares in a real modern war, I'd put my money on the PLAAF from theoretical capabilities. After all, China's military modernization is based on lessons from 1991, so they are fundamentally meant to face off the world's best using the latest military weapons and tactics (which includes BVR).
      Also, idk if this would sway your opinion, but the bonus of canards is that it generates lift upwards and not downwards as a conventional tailplane would. This not only eases airframe damage, but also reduces drag over the main wings as they no longer need to compensate the downforce on the rear but are actually assisted by a lift force in the front.

    • @Gabriel_McMillan
      @Gabriel_McMillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is certainly a topic I know I've been thinking about, and I'm sure many others appreciate you sharing your perspective on the prospects for such a conflict, and if it did happen, how it might turn out. Thank you for addressing the elephant in the F-22.

    • @benchmade12
      @benchmade12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣😂🤣😂

    • @helengibbs7177
      @helengibbs7177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💖

    • @helengibbs7177
      @helengibbs7177 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💖

  • @davidstrachan6480
    @davidstrachan6480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like that j35 is running on diesel, that thing got more black smoke than the trawler i work on

  • @marcatkinson5187
    @marcatkinson5187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know a P-8/P-3 pilot who sees adversary aircraft weekly if not daily now in the Bering sea and surrounding areas. The Russians come up to play, but the Chinese get run off by the F-22's routinely.

  • @thomaszhang3101
    @thomaszhang3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    15:00 there was a Chinese article on that written by the J-35 designer. Apparently the front canopy opening has to do with their switch to a humped back design. The bulge behind the canopy has to do with boundary layer and reducing drag at high subsonic/low to mid super sonic speeds. The front pivoting canopy just conveniently takes up less space of the humped back and frees up space to put something meaningful inside.
    Oh, just to add for J-20, there had been photo of J-20 with retractable aerial refueling prob sticking out of its nose starboard side. And videos of newest J-20 cockpit videos show pilot wearing helmet mounted display. You see holes and protrusions covering the side and back of the helmet as the pilot turned his head to scan around.

    • @JYF921
      @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      J35 needs more fuel to fly farther and 歼 [the other] 35 aircraft, hence a back of cockpit fuel tank is most likely

  • @EBMisKing
    @EBMisKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video and editing!

  • @tituslaronius
    @tituslaronius 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The J-10 is the bastard love child between an F-16 and a JAS-39

  • @thomaszhang3101
    @thomaszhang3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    As a Chinese, I can confirm that I always think about the long term consequences of my actions. For example, when I get into an online argument, I always remind myself that the person on the other side of the screen is human being with emotions and feelings.
    Therefore, I should to analyze his weakness, find an opening in his defense and proceed to verbally abuse him, causing long lasting emotional damage 😂

    • @Kahless_the_Unforgettable
      @Kahless_the_Unforgettable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      🤣
      I love surprise endings. Well done!

    • @fallenoverseer2525
      @fallenoverseer2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not to fear the results of a hundred battles
      -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    • @marcusbevz6500
      @marcusbevz6500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      EmoTiOnaL DamAgE

    • @mervyndong7281
      @mervyndong7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Damn me too. It is satisfying when they stop to reply. Now day the only point they can make is China copying shit.Which I am getting used to. Yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah😂😂

    • @JYF921
      @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      跟这些人舌战不如为祖国备战。西方网站上人都是这样,不会讲理的,何必费心思和时间?

  • @Nathan-vt1jz
    @Nathan-vt1jz ปีที่แล้ว

    I love all the Star Wars bits edited in there. Great video, the production and content are excellent.

  • @jimbo5816
    @jimbo5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cool video! Thanks for your time and greetings from Switzerland. Looks like we are getting the f-35 over here.

  • @motionsic
    @motionsic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good analysis between the jets. Thanks!

  • @robertmasseyiii3720
    @robertmasseyiii3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your content! Omg! Keep this up dude!

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Robert! Thanks a ton, always nice to hear. Feel free to send me topic ideas on instagram, I'm not that creative so that's where I get my ideas lol. Hope you're well!

    • @robertmasseyiii3720
      @robertmasseyiii3720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your welcome and I definitely will, btw, I'm good, been an aviation fan since my father introduced me at the age of 4yo, wanted to be a fighter pilot but life saw me as a Deputy Sheriff lol, either way, I still stay true to my love for military aircraft especially being from Fayetteville NC, and Pope AFB was where this love began. Of course now it's all Army but I have fond memories of the airshow he introduced me too, he passed away a little under two years ago from covid but he also loved aviation as well. The Thunderbirds was all he spoke of in the 80s and when I saw them fly I understood why lol,, so to see your content as I am an enthusiast provides me with that connection, I thank you as well..

  • @Watchandcutgearchannel
    @Watchandcutgearchannel ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding editing on this one 🫡

  • @bondbond611
    @bondbond611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    J20 can be refueling in mid-air, look at the latest pic released by China, a Y20 refueling a J20 and a J16 simultaneously

  • @Calendyr
    @Calendyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow the J10 must be insanely manouvrable with the added Canards! If their radar and missiles are any good, this would be a killer plane!

  • @tomte47
    @tomte47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I think the J-16 (Su-30 derivative) is what they are mostly building these days in the flanker department. One of the main problems The U.S side faces in war simulations against China is that any air base close enough to be useful would also be close enough for their gigantic inventory of Ballistic and cruise missiles.

    • @mervyndong7281
      @mervyndong7281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes J16 will be mass production. It’s a really reliable and multi function platform. Ground attack with massive payloads. Air to air which flankers are originally designed for. Anti ship or J16D electronic warfare fighter.

    • @JYF921
      @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think both J16 and J11 [Insert many combos of letters here] will be in mass production. What matters is the technology; it would be the latest AESA radars and comms and PL10/15 to match

    • @empoker07
      @empoker07 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure missle launch sites would be priority targets for the US.

    • @Gabriel_McMillan
      @Gabriel_McMillan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's hard to hit a submarine with a ballistic missile... I imagine what would happen would be, ideally, our ships would remain as much out of range of those missiles as possible, so while they could attack our bases in Japan and Taiwan, they could not attack our ships, but we would be able to attack their ships from the air, and their aircraft from the air, so, over time, we would win the air and naval war, at perhaps much less cost than if we had sought to start engaging the Chinese harbors from carriers immediately. But what does this mean for US F-16s already in Japan? I think it means they have to fight their way out, then land somewhere else, until time has taken its toll on the Chinese Navy and Air Force, after which, we would focus more on targets ashore, but not before. Recent wargames indicated we could lose up to 900 US combat aircraft, but I sincerely believe those results could be greatly improved by using our available resources more cautiously, at least initially, citing the hazards you mentioned. When the machine gun was invented, that was the end of the orderly, 3 ranks deep, line formation infantry assault, because such a tactic became suicidal, due to the new capability the machine gun offered. But it did not mean that machine guns were invulnerable, or that having one ensured victory. If China cannot ferry supplies back and forth to Taiwan, it loses, sooner or later. That's all we really have to achieve. Ideally, it would also be hard for them to drop paratroopers.

    • @johnsilver9338
      @johnsilver9338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      J-16 and any other EW aircraft will not be a problem when AIM-260 JATM comes out. Beside its active radar homing, it may also have infrared homing and/or anti-radiation capability similar to Raytheon's Peregrine missile that may replace the AIM-9X in the future. F-16 is getting an upgraded EW suite if I'm not wrong, so it could use it's passive radar to find J-16 and use JATM. Also same can be said for Chinese airfields that could be destroyed with Tomahawks or JASSM. But the advantage will go to whoever strikes first and who has more missiles and interceptors.

  • @FreedomandBaconHomestead
    @FreedomandBaconHomestead ปีที่แล้ว

    "Bad boy" is your favorite phrase for aircraft. 😂 Fun video, thanks for sharing!

  • @phill5917
    @phill5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sir you left out the this peace of information on both J-10C & J-20 have HMD'S and Aim-9X equivliant missiles. its called the PL-10. You also left out the J-10C's ability to carry the PL-15 that has more range than the Amraam. I don't know if the F-22 has an HMD like th F-35 but if it doesn't the J-20 is going to have that advantage over the F-22 WVR. I also forgot to mention that the J-11A isn't modern like the J-11B, the J-11B virant would have been more comparable to the F-15C since it carries PL-12's (Aim-120 eqivilant).

    • @johnosbourn4312
      @johnosbourn4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right now, the F-22s don't have an HMD, but, that's part of a big upgrade that's coming to the Raptor fleet.

    • @wolfgangjr74
      @wolfgangjr74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      J-20's dont have cannons so they better not miss the F-22s cause they will have those J20s for supper although the doctrine is to launch all missiles then run. They are only stealthy missile trucks anyway.

  • @electb
    @electb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the channel and this video. You did not preface this video with your fighter pilot experience in the beginning. If I were just watching your channel for the first time, I would think you were some joe blow spouting out his opinion. I think it is important to let new viewers know you have been there, done that. Thank you for your service to our great nation.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noted! Thanks for swinging by!

    • @ballzybaits4414
      @ballzybaits4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has a huge photo in the background of a pilot...how can anyone mistaken him to he a Joe blow?! 😉

  • @apocraphontripp4728
    @apocraphontripp4728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow the movies really pegged you guys. You look and sound like what Id expect from a Top Gun character. I can to totally see you hanging out with Maverick and singing, you lost that loving feeling. Bro you gotta do the bike/ jet scene from Top Gun as your intro. You gotta admit that would be pretty cool.

  • @Jay-rb5rs
    @Jay-rb5rs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    17:50 actually alot of sources are estimating the pla already fields 150-250 j20s with a twin seat variant entering service likely next year

    • @花有重开日人无再-y3d
      @花有重开日人无再-y3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      今天j20s才服役

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@花有重开日人无再-y3d The 150-250 number is him referring to J-20As, he is referring to the J-20S entering service later this year. But you are right, it already entered service.

  • @abderrahimjmal5225
    @abderrahimjmal5225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love your videos . You're inspiring me to be a fighter pilot.

  • @WarGasm0824
    @WarGasm0824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the J-10 is a more bootleg Euro Fighter Typhoon than a Fighting Falcon “Viper”.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I could see that!

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The J-10 is neither, it originated as a fusion of the J-9, it is nothing like either.

  • @229glock
    @229glock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re like the pilot version of garand thumb. Like a twin brother.

  • @TexasShaka
    @TexasShaka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome as always

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're awesome man. Keep doing what you're doing

  • @53kenner
    @53kenner ปีที่แล้ว

    OK, loved the Johnny Bravo callout!

  • @davedeville6540
    @davedeville6540 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Regarding the J-20 I think the consensus is that it’s not inspired by the YF-23 but rather the conceptual Mig-1.44.
    Please correct me if I’m wrong

    • @dhan219
      @dhan219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you are on to something but the mig 1.44 was trying to counter the F22. So it was Russia copying F22 and then China always copying Russia.

  • @tatianadashkova2143
    @tatianadashkova2143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The J-10 is not an F-16 copy it’s literally based on the lavi

  • @staycxld
    @staycxld 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How long were you in the USAF? Ever serve at Wright Patt? I grew up there.

  • @rogerdatruntings
    @rogerdatruntings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol. Just love when Chinese Emperor got all spooky voice 😆 🤣 😂

  • @rooooooby
    @rooooooby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The J-16 is the best Flanker variant. The Su-35 only has slightly better engines.

    • @jdenmark1287
      @jdenmark1287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taiwan is an incredibly mountainous country with incredible technology. People seem to forget that they have as much right to claim mainland China as a part of their country as the CCP has to claim Taiwan as theirs.
      Any potential blockaders of Taiwan would face missile barrages of the blockading forces that would cause massive damage and lots of sunk tonnage. The island is like the Switzerland of the west pacific. The juice ain’t worth the squeeze of trying to take it.

    • @rooooooby
      @rooooooby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jdenmark1287 I would argue more claim, since the KMT did once rule the mainland, however CPC never ruled Taiwan. But if the PRC wanted to take Taiwan by force, all they have to do is overwhelm Taiwan with rocket artillery for a few days to break morale before landing any forces on the island.

  • @henryliang5188
    @henryliang5188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    dude, love the content. Please calm the hands man. it's enough to not come back

  • @antarcticlake3930
    @antarcticlake3930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What? Your jet have two wings? You cupy!

  • @yeahbabyyeah3943
    @yeahbabyyeah3943 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The J10 looks like NASA’s X-31 high AOA demonstrator, have a look….”yeah baby…yeah”

  • @chadh7005
    @chadh7005 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really miss going to the air shows down in AZ. They did some great stuff for July 4th

  • @scipioafricanus6979
    @scipioafricanus6979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me personally the j-20 always looked like the su-47 because of it's long narrow body design.

  • @hamboneproductions1781
    @hamboneproductions1781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The j-10 looks like a combination of an F-16 and a Eurofighter Typhoon

  • @quandaryn1231
    @quandaryn1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I'm pretty sure the last time China had an original idea is when they invented gunpowder.

    • @JustinWheeler_LA
      @JustinWheeler_LA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quandary, gunpowder was an Indian invention...China stole it.

    • @kobexu
      @kobexu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm pretty sure the last time China had an original design is the last time you had sex.

    • @dondovahkiin7899
      @dondovahkiin7899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Copium.

    • @TheWartHawg
      @TheWartHawg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do they need innovation when countries like the US will either give them the technology or at least do nothing to discourage the theft thereof. We’ve been arming them for 70 years. Blissfully. They’ve been kicking our ass in a one sided Cold War we’ve been oblivious to.

    • @youwantgoodrng
      @youwantgoodrng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      XD

  • @ryanc00p3r3
    @ryanc00p3r3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a second?
    Did i just hear a C&C Generals China Theme soundtrack?

  • @Arcamensios
    @Arcamensios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bejetclean 1v1 Growling Sidewinder 🙏
    (Obviously I think GS should be a gentleman and give BJC prep time)

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha, without the feel of a jet I think he might smoke me! But yeah this sounds like way too much fun

  • @Polyvinci
    @Polyvinci 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the J-10, you see a derivative of the F-16, and I see an almost blatant copy of the Israeli Lavi.

  • @jwickerszh
    @jwickerszh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait, you do know that China does have HMDs right?, at least for the J20s so it would also be on J35s. We've seen them on J10Cs as well , so there are indications that those may carry over some of their advanced flankers.
    Also the PL10 is an equivalent of that AIM-X and can do off-bore lock and shooting so they have had at least HMS.

    • @appa609
      @appa609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even original soviet vintage flankers have hmd's

  • @DrenoshGaming
    @DrenoshGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would love to see you check out a Eurofighter Typhoon display possibly from RIAT. It's one of my favourite hey I have seen display, only the F22 was more impressive. That said the sound of the Typhoon is what gets me such a beast.

  • @Dorimeme187
    @Dorimeme187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would be nice to see a comparison video of the F-16 and Typhoon/Rafale/Gripen!

  • @tonylangowski9837
    @tonylangowski9837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    And another, when departing a show on Monday, after weekend performances, is it any less regimented than your show performances, or do you have a set departure plan? And do you wear a more comfortable flight suit than your show flight suit for long haul flights?

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude. Great questions, I have a Tbird video coming out soon with some of these

  • @joevaccaro6655
    @joevaccaro6655 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:18 cracked me up 😂. Bro, you saying “I’m just some dude on TH-cam” is like Viper saying “Good Afternoon gentlemen, the temperature’s 110 degrees”

  • @jamesoshea4702
    @jamesoshea4702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The F16 copy looks more like a Eurofighter to me, but that’s just my opinion and I’m sure you are more familiar with jets than me

    • @schweizerluchs7146
      @schweizerluchs7146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks more similar to the IAI Lavi...which well uhm...

    • @johnosbourn4312
      @johnosbourn4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The J-10 looks more like the Lavi, instead of looking like the Viper.

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnosbourn4312 The J-10 is closer to the J-9 than the Lavi.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I could see that!

  • @ThankYou-bn6bp
    @ThankYou-bn6bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your analysis at 3:28

  • @JYF921
    @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    There was a saying in the PLAAF:
    Instructor: "Why do you dogfight?"
    Student: "Because I have supermaneuvrability (in my Flanker?)?"
    Instructor: "No, because you are an idiot"
    This pretty much sums up that China doesn't put much money into dogfighting, rather prefers to put 2 close range missiles (think PL8, PL10, very modern heatseekers) on the jet and call it a day. They much more prefer the integrated system of satellites, AWACS aircraft (think KJ500, 2000), land and naval based radars, and long range drones for detecting an enemy and shooting at it from far away (using PL12 and PL15 missiles that at least from range is equal or superior to western missiles). This philosophy might also be why China loves delta wings, because they work very well at supersonic speeds and that's what you need for a plane to shoot a missile as far as it can by giving good initial energy.
    As for which side fares in a real modern war, I'd put my money on the PLAAF from theoretical capabilities. After all, China's military modernization is based on lessons from 1991, so they are fundamentally meant to face off the world's best using the latest military weapons and tactics (which includes BVR).
    Also, idk if this would sway your opinion, but the bonus of canards is that it generates lift upwards and not downwards as a conventional tailplane would. This not only eases airframe damage, but also reduces drag over the main wings as they no longer need to compensate the downforce on the rear but are actually assisted by a lift force in the front.

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m willing to bet you won’t sway his opinion on canards seeing as how he’s very well educated in aviation fighter technique and design. He knows the significant disadvantage of having them.

    • @thomaszhang3101
      @thomaszhang3101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not only that, the vortex generated by the canard can also increase the lift of the main wing, again reducing drag. With modern flight by wire system and digital simulations to compensate for the complex aerodynamic shape of delta canards, I think it is a very attractive option for fighters.

    • @JYF921
      @JYF921 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reboundrides8132 I guess so. I’m more familiar with the modern BVR focus and seeing how he judges fighters I guess he’s more of a top gun guy who prefers more traditional dogfights. That being said if he’s educated he should have a whole science lesson explaining why

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hmm I feel a canards vs. stabs video coming on lol

    • @reboundrides8132
      @reboundrides8132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JYF921 looks like we get to find out lol so dope

  • @warbuzzard7167
    @warbuzzard7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work, my winged brother in blue!

  • @benjaminmonard1343
    @benjaminmonard1343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hello sir, former analyst with the 4th fighter wing (never got to the squadron level unfortunately). I know you focused on the aircraft, but if you were to start to consider things like jammers, off bore site weapons, and overall situational awareness, and numbers, is there, in your opinion, a scenario where the Chinese Air Force actually wins the air war?

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Phew that's a great question, you are way more qualified than me to answer that but let's keep that one offline.

    • @EagleTwo758
      @EagleTwo758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dude you are getting into classified territory there. Retired USAF here, F15 F117 F22 8FS/49th FW

  • @ResolUloseR
    @ResolUloseR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looooooooooooove this channel

  • @thump46262002
    @thump46262002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was Navy and Tomcats. Perhaps I shouldn't say this, but I know you are pulling back for obvious reasons. Your training, as well as having top secret knowledge of our capabilities and training versus theirs cannot be revealed in this venue. Having said that, I know you know that I know that we would wipe the floor with their ass, and quickly. Their copycat jets are sexy, but really a joke compared to ours. Having been in the fighter community, I know the seriousness and earnest with which we approach warfighting.

    • @alanmakoso1115
      @alanmakoso1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well both countries don’t reveal the full capabilities. There’s a lot of stuff we don’t know about J20 also

    • @SugarBlood15
      @SugarBlood15 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I hope that we never find out and you keep the conviction of your superiority forever.

  • @tonylangowski9837
    @tonylangowski9837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ryan, I have a couple of questions from your Thunderbird days. If you were traveling from one show say on the mainland to Oahu, Hi. How many aerial refuels would you do? Or did you carry wing tanks? Thank you.

    • @johnosbourn4312
      @johnosbourn4312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can answer that: The team's jets would dragged across the Pacific by KC-135s, or KC-10s, but, as far as the external tanks, only the two seaters have the belly tank fitted, and the single seaters of the team do not carry the tanks, because it's easier for the maintenance personnel to get the show birds ready for their show, by not carrying external tanks.

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hey John! If you're interested in being a content moderator message me on IG

  • @torwauki7
    @torwauki7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, no doubt this guy plays for team USA for sure lol. I respect his opinion because he's a fighter pilot, but I feel he doesn't take some things into consideration. China's weapons, be it ships, planes or tanks are much newer than the u,s's. This is because china only became rich in the last 20 years, whereas the USA been a world power for the last century. That's why you see chinese ships all nice and new, and usa's some ships are full of rust, Google the pics. Technology is a one way arrow, it always gets better with time. No one's saying we should ditch our iPhones and go back to the rotory phone of 30 years ago. No one's saying we should ditch out 65" 4k tv's and go back to the 70 's black and white tv's, at least I hope not. So in this regard, china's war machines are generally better than the U.S, because they're newer. The F35 is the only new plane the u.s has in these comparisons. Even the F22 is over 30 years old. I also don't agree that the J10 and J20 look like an F16 and F22. For a pilot, I'm surprised he made that statement. They don't look anything alike to me.

  • @jasonchen6056
    @jasonchen6056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately, all new fighter jet info that comes out of China are all on paper, there are no actual numbers recorded by 3rd party.

  • @jwickerszh
    @jwickerszh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FYI J20 had aerial refueling since 2018. Also there are no official numbers but estimates are between 150 to 200.

    • @ricotheman8139
      @ricotheman8139 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your information is pretty actuate. You sure have better source than the poster.

  • @carterscoconuts6224
    @carterscoconuts6224 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Johnny Bravo reference is superior

  • @JoshyStuart
    @JoshyStuart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the channel!
    Dude reminds me of Tom Delonge so much!

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha thanks!

    • @gordonsmith5589
      @gordonsmith5589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He isn’t a match at all. This guy is his super nerdy brother that thinks he is cool.

  • @murdock8068
    @murdock8068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey bud, where you flying with the Thunderbirds in 2015? It was in Owensboro Kentucky. I remember a female pilot as well. There was a rudder to inverted rudder move that was the most insane thing I've ever seen!! God bless sir!

  • @kexing3185
    @kexing3185 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    wrong picture。That‘s not J11’s cokpit。That‘s old J10A

  • @a2140416
    @a2140416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just out of curiosity, which dynasty are you talking about at 4:20? For quite a long time though, navy is considered trivial in China until the Opium war, so I wouldn't be surprised.

  • @KawaTony1964
    @KawaTony1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ryan - you are the perfect person to ask this question. There's alot of heated debate about whether or not it would be of any value to give Western jets to Ukraine due to their lack of training on these aircraft. As a fighter pilot yourself, what do you think? Imagine this scenario: your country is under attack and can't keep your F-16s and F-15s flying duel to losses and lack of spare parts. The UK comes in and says "we can give you Eurofighters". How long would it take you after jumping into the cockpit of a Eurofighter to become effective at using it to defend your country?

    • @boejiden7093
      @boejiden7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes years to become skilled at using a fighter jet. Changing jets isnt like changing a car. Each fighter has its own capabilities. They are all good at some things and struggle in others. If a Mig pilot sits in an F-16, he’ll be confused af. He won’t know what does what not will he be able to understand the capabilities of the F-16. Each fighter has tactics developed for it and those tactics don’t work when using another fighter.

    • @KawaTony1964
      @KawaTony1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boejiden7093 Are you a pilot?

    • @boejiden7093
      @boejiden7093 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KawaTony1964 i’m learning how to fly now so kinda. But my instructor was a navy fighter pilot. So when I asked him your exact question, that was his response. Every fighter jet is different and has unique capabilities. To learn those capabilities takes time. To master them, takes even longer. If Ukraine had operated western jets before the invasion, perhaps we could have given them some fighters. But its not possible anymore

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boejiden7093 Yep that is exactly it.
      Moreover most of the jets in the west, as well as their weapons, are purpose built as integrated platforms as part of a complete strike force package. While individual aircraft are good, its really when they are part of the entire force that they stand out to the point of having the ability to dismantle an entire nation's worth of infrastructure like they did in desert storm.
      Even the weapons we have currently sent, like HIMARS, already rely a lot on an enhanced level of intelligence gathering which we are also helping to provide, but for jets this needs the entire package.
      Even if we assume that AWACs can bee handled by NATO aircrafts operating outside the country, to maximise the effect of the BVR focused equipement would include
      - Reconnaissance aircraft or reconnaissance elements identifying targets ahead of time and with great precision
      - E-war fighters designed to degrade enemy air defense and sensor equipment, allowing all fighters a greater degree of operation. Lets say that we hand that off the AWACs and satellites
      - SEAD elements in order to seach, destroy, and supress enemy air defenses in order to gain air superiority. This is even more important considering Russia's meaty air defense system including near strategic level air defense systems
      - lots, and lots of BVR weapons and Joint standoff munitions being carried by all matter of aircraft, especially the stealth strike fighters and stealth fighters
      - the occasional CAS focused strike fighter or strike bomber only appearing once air is firmly in control and all outstanding AA threats are dealt with.
      - heavy platforms like the B-52 are near impossible to get close to the area anyways unless they are relegated to cruise missile spam which would put them outside of Ukraine's territory anyways.
      - B-1 is probably far too hard and risky to operate in a contested airspace even if its designed for airspace penetration (it could get in but unknown if it would get out)
      All those platforms are super complex to operate and NEED the support of the other platforms to maximize their effect

  • @SirMo
    @SirMo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Any kind of conflict would likely also not just involve China and US, but NATO + countries like Japan and South Korea. I personally don't think anyone wants a war, as like you said the war would be bad for everyone. But I don't think China stands a chance and they know it.

    • @superpooper_2030
      @superpooper_2030 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There’s simulations USA only has 8% success rate when teaming up with Japan, 28% of success with nato plus Japan, 13% success with aukus.

    • @SirMo
      @SirMo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superpooper_2030 Simulations also gave Russia a swift victory over Ukraine.

  • @learnhistory8896
    @learnhistory8896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ​Do you think F35 design is underestimate the potential threat from China's J20 which is more focus on Air-to-Air combat?

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi both are cool jets!

    • @derekgraziano9499
      @derekgraziano9499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The f35 can hit any plane before they are even detected and can hit from farther away ... the f35 woukd never fly alone it would have other fighter jets with it .

    • @wolfgangjr74
      @wolfgangjr74 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      J-20s dont even have cannons. They are just stealth missile trucks. Still dangerous interceptors though due to some stealth, the large amounts of missiles they carry, and the type of long range missiles. Perhaps less dangerous to fighters but very bad for tankers, EW, and AWACS.

    • @你看个锤子你看
      @你看个锤子你看 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wolfgangjr74 Modern air combat itself is BVR, why is there a machine gun?

  • @michaelgfyau4514
    @michaelgfyau4514 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If im not mistaken. 40 years ago, China don't even had any idea 3rd generation fighter should really be like. And only able to produce fighter like mig 17, 19 and 21. Even the qualities are really so bad.
    That time, USA Grumman was helping China to upgrade their J 8 fighter into J 8ii. And Grumman engineering was so surprised that they don't even know what is qualities control and module manufacturing. And today after 40 years, they have their own 5th generation fighter. Wow... No matter what, they really do improve so fast.

  • @lindsey349
    @lindsey349 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    j35 looks more like a f22 than a f35

  • @k9s4conservation65
    @k9s4conservation65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When that J-10 came out, I thought it looked like someone left their Viper in a hangar with a Eurofighter and the J-10 is what came out 9 months later!

    • @SirMo
      @SirMo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      J-10 looks like a F16 and a Viggen smashed together.

    • @fatdoi003
      @fatdoi003 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SirMo lol everything from China has to look like something.... so what's Eurofighter look like? what's Rafale look like? what's Tejas look like??

  • @jawarakf
    @jawarakf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You took the old video which is not relevant to the recent navalized J-35 prototype powered by WS-13 or WS-19 engines.

  • @Clubtender
    @Clubtender ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a dumb question. Wouldn't the forward canards on the J-20 screw it's stealth?

  • @Lambda420
    @Lambda420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    F-35 hmd wins every time. Especially if we have young pilots with videogame experience flying

  • @Boss62BAU5
    @Boss62BAU5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What do you think about naval aircraft in this situation?

    • @jeffreyfarlow9862
      @jeffreyfarlow9862 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s the real question since it will be a battle of navies. The deciding factor will be if the plaan get the catapult system on their carriers to launch fully armed combat aircraft like the United States. Ski ramp carrier decks reduce the effectiveness of the Chinese carrier aircraft because you can’t launch fully loaded, they have to save weight to get speed and lift.

  • @marka6331
    @marka6331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like when you step back and talk about the bigger picture along with the details. Important to keep the framing.

  • @Secssl128g
    @Secssl128g 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    U Just Rock man!!!!!

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks bro! Right back at you 🫡

  • @bryanrussell6679
    @bryanrussell6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The J-20 looks nothing like the YF-23.

    • @davidmckenzie6505
      @davidmckenzie6505 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah Looks more like the MiG Project 1.44 (eventually the MiG 39 if had been in service).

    • @bryanrussell6679
      @bryanrussell6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmckenzie6505
      Oh wow, I haven't heard of the MiG project 1.44 before. You're are right, they look identical.

  • @culliganman578
    @culliganman578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We’re you ever stationed in Alaska when you flew the F-15?

  • @pyrho1
    @pyrho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ryan. Do you currently fly for an airline, or corporate? Or something else? Thanks!

  • @Hhhh22222-w
    @Hhhh22222-w ปีที่แล้ว

    The J31 in the airshow vid is probably a prototype. Obviously China doesnt have the same tech as the US for their F35, so they are still figuring out how to make or change the design to better fit their technology and needs.

  • @datutturugang666
    @datutturugang666 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:43 f35 development team member in disguise here, the only 35 with the lift fan is the b variant. a and c variants only feature conventional thrust. the canopy opens the same way to cut on cost basically

  • @jianyang6281
    @jianyang6281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no more black smoke for J35 now.

  • @johnusher2331
    @johnusher2331 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t think other nations are as prepared to refill planes in are lack of refuel planes

  • @TheCobra114-o5e
    @TheCobra114-o5e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The j-10 is if the f16 and typhoon had a child

  • @heartboyxo2496
    @heartboyxo2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't just be jet clean, stay jet clean and we'll see ya next time!

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love it! Stay Jet Clean and Stay Classy San Diego :)

    • @heartboyxo2496
      @heartboyxo2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaxAfterburnerusa Haha just saw Anchorman the other day for the first time! Great content man!

  • @t-jh4236
    @t-jh4236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where were you stationed? I see mention of Travis AFB, but where else? Just curious. I grew up on bases as my dad was a retired E9 of 30 years. He passed this July 6th. We moved from Barksdale to Osan to Edwards and he retired at Elmendorf before it became JBER. Loved growing up on bases. I would have went Air Force, but dad steered me away from the military so I went to school and entered the DOJ after school. As I said just curious. Great video.

  • @simonwoess5679
    @simonwoess5679 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little update here
    In 2023 the PLAAF has over 200 J-20 so right now they are outnumbering the F-22

  • @jakethelakeman5061
    @jakethelakeman5061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    he man good video but ease use like half as many edits

  • @LaserDiK
    @LaserDiK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Chinese J-35 looks like Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznietzov😎

  • @bradleyb.425
    @bradleyb.425 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The adage, according to U.S. military ground fighting doctrine, is: know yourself, know your enemy and know the terrain. I don't know how much the terrain aspect affects or transfers to aerial combat, but it's a decisive element on the ground.

    • @MrMrrome
      @MrMrrome ปีที่แล้ว

      The equivalent would probably be air density and weather patterns.

  • @IowanLawman
    @IowanLawman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bear in midn though that J-31 is the demonstrator. I doubt whenever they put that thing into service that the engine and canopy will remain the same as that in the video. And yeah, that J-31 was probably built on the R&D files from that hack into the F-35 program in 2009. I don't doubt the capability of these jets, but I do on the training/cadre/maintainance/experiences of the personnel. All those add up at the end of the stick.

  • @JonnyWaldes
    @JonnyWaldes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder when they'll roll out the B.. ahem H-20

  • @raykong3907
    @raykong3907 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your video from China

  • @Aditi27
    @Aditi27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Learnt so much about the aircrafts which are very similar to the US jets but also have a unique nomenclature with " J" being a popular choice 😉 just kidding. It was good to know such wide spectrum opinion on a global scenario especially coming from a war hero. Loved it.

    • @ionsilver557
      @ionsilver557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fun fact: the letter "J" in PLAAF's fighter jet's name stands for "jiān", or "歼" in Chinese writings, it means a kind of total destruction.

  • @姜磊-n5h
    @姜磊-n5h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun vdieo! A few points from me.
    1) J10 and F16 are probably toe to toe for the latest models on maneuverbility and avionics. But J10 loses out big on fuel capacity and payload, probably also a bit on cost. No biggie for wars. The J10 has fewer hardpoints, no wing tip hardpoints. To make matter worse, some can only take drop tanks and nothing else. For Taiwan it's probably not going to play a role.
    2) The Chinese flankers have improved airframe with more composite materials, reducing the weight. Also improved avionics to fire all/most Chinese missiles. As of HMD, I don't think you should draw a conclusion that it does not have one form just a photo with a guy wearing a white helmet sitting in the cockpit. IRST and HMD was the hallmark feature of flanker(ahead of the US) so I don't think it will be missing on any one of them. If only the Chinese version should be better than the Russian one.
    3) J20 is not the missile truck. A Taiwanese military acadamy professor said, the PLAAF jet they worry about most is the J16. It's the Chinese version of Su-35 considered to be the "ultimate flanker". The huge payload is described as "it's not a missile truck but rather a missile mining truck". It would make much more sense for the J20 to track the targets and J16 to shoot the ultra long PL15 safely outside enemy's range.
    4) The reason you see FC31(J35) spewing black smoke is that the engine is Russian RD-93, what's being used in Mig-29, giving it the signature black smoke. Pretty sure they're just a place holder and won't be there when the prototype is finished (in fact already gone). The engine itself is not that bad, just how it's designed to work. Also J35 not likely to have an STOVL version like F35B even the canopy is opening backwards because the front landing gear is in the place of the lift fan. If you observe carefully F35 moved it forward to make the room.
    Overall, today's air warfare has changed a lot and AWACS, avionics and missiles are playing a much more important role. If you consider the advantage of PL15's range the results probably will favor the Chinese side. Of course there is the F35 to add another variable. Again I'm just sitting in my armchair reading articles and watching videos, reality might be different.
    For the fun, Grim Reapers has a video on China attacking Okinawa air bases th-cam.com/video/z4krltcsNAw/w-d-xo.html . In his videos US mostly wins. But I think he does make a very interesting point that without ballistic missiles the battle will be a bloddy meat grinder. Yet again I don't think that's reality and I can't help but think how many lives a few DF15s will actually save.

    • @姜磊-n5h
      @姜磊-n5h 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also one word about China's strategy on Taiwan.
      I agree with some analysis that a naval blockade is very unlikely as it will be the worst choice amongst all-out attack and doing-nothing. The 1000+ short to medium range Chinese ballistic missiles constitute a huge deterrance to the US and Japan. The DF21/YJ21 are likely able to target US carrier groups and sink them without having to lob hundreds of cruise missiles. Hence you see USS Ronald Regan sailing away and staying outside 1000nm in this crisis. With this A2/AD capability, plus Russia's declaration it will side with China in case war breaks out at Taiwan Strait, it is most likely US and Japan will do nothing or stop short of providing arms. Because not like Ukraine, Taiwan is an island and there is no way you can smuggle in weapons.
      Taiwan is only 1/16 size of Ukraine and most military positions are exposed and marked. If war breaks out it will probably be a quick one. Based on what US is planning and doing indeed the chance of China taking Taiwan is pretty high in the next 5 years. Let's hope it does not start WW3.

    • @19447427
      @19447427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      红脖子看的视频不用这么认真

    • @Endoplexer
      @Endoplexer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@姜磊-n5h US is able to fly planes across the world and fly tankers 24/7. US blockade would be very challenging for China as PLA and PLN don't have the overseas capability of USN.

    • @姜磊-n5h
      @姜磊-n5h 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Endoplexer does US military dare to put a blockade on China? With all their missiles far outranged by Chinese ones?
      The PL15 is explicitly designed to take out tankers and AWACSes. The DF26/17 and YJ21 are explicitly designed to send US fleets to bottom of the ocean with 30 minutes.
      If you listen to the US military, especially the USN, they're pretty dovish these days.

    • @Endoplexer
      @Endoplexer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@姜磊-n5h does China dare face the US knowing 10 submarines and an intercontinental airforce can shutdown their entire economy within a week.

  • @spiff1003
    @spiff1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    J-10/F16... You forgot some aspects there.... That is in the BVR-realm. I guess the deltawing is slightly in advantage there, but then... How about the missiles? AMRAAM vs? And how about radars? AESA vs passive?

  • @appa609
    @appa609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In theory, a delta canard can get a better L/D than conventional configuration

  • @Andyhulu
    @Andyhulu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    J-20 is simillar with YF-23, are you kidding?

  • @joshm3484
    @joshm3484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the end I think the technology is les important than the geography in this case. China can launch aircraft and missiles from land that can be over Taiwan before the US can. The US either has to use bases further from Taiwan or send carriers close enough to Taiwan to make easy targets for those same Chinese missiles and planes.
    Focusing less on tactics and more on strategy, Taiwan doesn't necessarily have to be able to withstand an actual invasion if it can just make the price for invasion costly enough to make it not worth it. If Taiwan can make or is given a substantial number of long rage ballistic missiles, or a small number of nukes, invasion and any other form of attack becomes much less likely. That won't rule out a siege, but if the rest of the world responds in kind and completely shuts off Chinese imports, it's questionable if the Chinese middle class is large enough and wealthy enough to sustain their economy. It's also questionable if China would start WWIII by firing on a any ship that simply decides to ignore a blockade. It's unlikely the Chinese would face the same kinds of famine as they did in the past, but as people become more affluent and their standard of living rises, they become less willing to put up with a government that jeopardizes their standard of living with unnecessary military actions. Chinese hyper-nationalism and propaganda can blunt this in the short term, but long term you can't hide the fact that someone used to be able to afford both food and a house, and now has to choose one or the other. I think China is watching very closely how the world responded to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and questioning what a similar isolation would mean for the long term survival of the current Chinese regime.

    • @nz8881
      @nz8881 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good angle! But Giving nukes to Taiwan will effectively give permission to China and all other nuclear countries to spread nukes and missile technologies to all other countries that are hostile to the US, which I assume is something the US is also not keen on.

    • @xiaoyun1971
      @xiaoyun1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      好问题,中国有庞大的人口基数以及情绪化的民族性格,中国人对自己历史和国家概念的自豪是一种宗教般的情感,中国被西方媒体和虚伪的政客pua这么多 年,够了,

    • @lingyuchen9669
      @lingyuchen9669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@xiaoyun1971 并不是国家概念,只是对于党的执着。很多中国人分不清楚国家和政党

    • @comedian-6510
      @comedian-6510 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lingyuchen9669 对中国而言无论谁在上面,台湾问题都是最核心的,对于台湾这事跟领导者毫无关系,如果为了台湾要忍耐降低生活,是可以接受的,而且西方不挑逗还好,现在西方越惹事,这种民族情绪会越高,最后只能是老共不想打被民意也逼的不能不打。

    • @lingyuchen9669
      @lingyuchen9669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@comedian-6510 那你是可以接受,不要把自己的想法强加在别人身上

  • @Winterfal11
    @Winterfal11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey BJC do you play any of the DCS multiplayer servers?

  • @jamesc6363
    @jamesc6363 ปีที่แล้ว

    The real question is can the US keep it's navy safe on the water? Hypersonic missiles may have changed to game...

  • @alanmakoso1115
    @alanmakoso1115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you review the armaments? Like AiM middles and stuff. Love your content

    • @mobiuscoreindustries
      @mobiuscoreindustries 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be interesting too.
      After all since the west bases a LOT of its airplanes on BVR and extended range combat its very important to analyse the weapons on top of the framework.
      After all we have seen Russia with very capable air-frames struggling to actually put them to use due to lacking weapons and resorting to the use of dumb bombs and rockets.
      The CCP clearly did their homework better than Russia did, so it would be interesting to see the two being put against each other armament wise

  • @thor-xr8vy
    @thor-xr8vy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmmmm seems interesting

    • @MaxAfterburnerusa
      @MaxAfterburnerusa  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      this was voted the top video I've ever made by my Mom!

    • @thor-xr8vy
      @thor-xr8vy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaxAfterburnerusa trying to get the f-16 in dcs u recommend?