Only once had a 1000yd rusher, and only twice had a top ten defence. He is the greatest of all time. Give him what Montana, Elway, Brady, or Mahomes had or has.
At 1st I thought I had wrote the thread starter because I've said the exact same thing many times. When I get in the qb debate I always ask the person to name me a super star or HOF offensive playmaker that Marino had. Duper was a speedster & Clayton a good all around wr who was a very good route runner but Marino made them. He had a past his prime Irving Fryer & a great possession reciever in OJ McDuffie but that's about it. Put Marino on that Niners team with HOF'ers all over the offensive & defensive side of the ball. Same thing with Jim Kelly in Buffalo & Peyton in Indy.
If he had what Montana, Brady and all the others had he would not have the amount of yards he has. Because he had limited weapons he was forced to throw as much as he did.
Dan's only HOF offensive player was his center. Montana had Rice, Brady had Gronk-Edelman-Moss. Marino's accuracy was insane, only 1 pass in these clips did the receiver have to adjust his hands. Every pass was cradled by the receiver.
I met Bill Walsh in 2000 and I asked him who was the best QB ever. I fully expected him to say Joe Montana (for obvious reasons) and I was ready to debate him. He really didn't want to answer the question at all. But I said certain names He would say no. I finally said Dan Marino and he smiled and replied "smart man". Even he thought Marino was the best Qb he'd ever seen and that says a lot!
@marckellough529 Did nothing. He made a superbowl. U forget in 94 Dolphins were about to go to another Superbowl. But the kicker missed an easy kick to win the game. Give Marino what Montana had on defense and offense. Montana had as much help as anyone QB ever on both sides of the ball besides maybe Terry Bradshaw!
God I love this old style film… and to hear the greats of the greats break down Marino’s throwing mechanics is gold! The greatest passer the league will ever see! He may not be yours but Dan Marino #13 is my 🐐
Dan the Man was my Hero growing up... Every week watching him come from behind. Never really got that supporting cast that truly helped him out. Long live the King! Thanks for the memories Dan!!
Forward passer is a good way to describe it though I like to call it downfield passing because it better incorporates the deep ball aspect. Dan had the best deep ball in the history of professional football. His ball placement, touch, distance, and velocity in one package were unmatched. No one had all those traits in one arm. Rodgers is right up there though.
If I could pick one player from the entire history of the NFL to start a franchise with, it would be Dan Marino. He not only had an insanely strong arm and threw with accuracy, he could also throw with touch, could pick apart the best defenses (see Marino beating the 1985 Bears), had insane vision of the entire field, and despite being a slow runner he was so quick to feel presser and avoid a sack like no other. - IMHO, Marino was the best quarterback in the history of the NFL.
Unless you saw Marino actually play, it’s hard to fully appreciate how great of a pure passer he was. Had one of the fastest releases ever and could throw with pinpoint accuracy. He was two decades ahead of his time!
While I don't believe that Marino was the greatest QB ever, he is among the very best at passing the ball. Few could match his total pass package of accuracy, arm strength, and quick release.
The previous record for TDs in a season was 37. He raised it to 48. That's beating the old record by 30%. That's like someone hitting 95 home runs or a QB this year throwing for 72 TDs !!! That year he just blew away all that came before. He was not the greatest QB ever, but he was the greatest passer ever.
I used to work for the city of Miami and I was working that day and I was in the south end of the field I looked up and saw Clayton coming in the post next's thing I knew I seen the ball coming at me seems 🎉 like 100 miles per hour to Clayton and it made a sound like pr°°fa I said my than is man for real or mecanicly Clayton court the touch down and I wear standing there memerise how fast that ball came at me,go dolfans.
Marino was blessed with very good receivers. However, I would have loved to see him play just one full season with Steve Largent and see what may have happened for BOTH of them.
No QB ever came into the League with a better chance of success than Marino in '83 with the Dolphins. He was drafted by a team that had just played in the S.B., they were No.1 on Defense for Least Points Allowed, his backs had 2,150 yds. rushing, his Coach was the best in the League at the time, and as we now know, he was in the start of his prime. It could not have been any better.
If he could have played better and been a better passer he could have led those early to mid 80's Dolphins teams to at least 2 or 3 S.B. wins. He actually led them to a total of only 1 Conference Championship. What an underachiever.
Overall, ON DEFENSE Dan had 7 teams ('83, '84, '85, ''90, '92, '95, '98). that were Top 12 for Least Points Allowed and 5 teams ('83,'90,'92,'98,'99) that were Top 10 for Least Yds. Given Up. He had 10 teams where his backs had OVER 2,500 yds. rushing and receiving ('83,'84,'85,'86,'87,'92,'93,'94,'95,'96) . Plenty of GOOD teams.
Why no S.B. win ?? Because of the way he played in a majority of his biggest games--his championship games.In his 3 champ. game LOSSES he had 4 TD's but 6 INT's and 2 fumbles, an avg. Passer Rating of 59, and he led his offense to an avg.of only 12 p.p.g. How can a team win Championships when their QB is playing like that ?? They can't !!
Horrible casual take He did more then anyone changed the game and was the best passer to ever do it. It's a TEAM sport. Brady Mahomes with that lossy D and zero run game would do any better. Dan the man still jas records for a reason
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester Horrible CASUAL take----I gave you many STATS and FACTS about how Dan played as well as the good teams that he had and you give me your OPINION. I'll stick to my stats and facts and let you have your casual opinion.
Dan never gets mentioned in the Goat discussion because he proves that the QB Super Bowl stat is bull. You have 11 guys on both sides of the ball, plus special teams, and he doesn’t control all of it. He didn’t pick his coaches, receivers, or defenses, and despite having no running game, average to bad D’s, nearly absent RB’s, he still retired with every single record. And the Dolphins haven’t sniffed a Super Bowl since he lost in 85. He proves it’s not all one position, which contradicts the narrative. If you want to win, you better have a great coach, and a top ten D, otherwise, you’ll end up like Dan Marino.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I love how much time he spends at the stadium and with Tua. I have his picture in my office, I look at it all the time. It was a pleasure to have been able to watch him on Sundays. The icing on the cake was the fake spike against the Jets.
For me its the smoothness of Marino drop, locating the receiver and bang, that quick release and arm strength simply fantastic. The absolute great ones makes the most difficult position in the game look effortless and he's at the top of the pile.
When we talk about the greatest of all time championships don't have that much to do with it. You can have the greatest quarterback to ever play the game on your team, but if you're defense doesn't do their job, you're going to lose the game.
When you see these games now and it’s a great long pass they say what a perfect throw Nope! Receiver is adjusting to the pass, qb tossing to the spot, etc Perfect, leading passes? Pretty spirals? Dan the man True virtuoso
Aside from his dad, Marino was Peytons favorite player. Imagine the numbers Dan would put up in his prime with this dolphins team. 70+ touchdowns and over 7k yards.
@mr.majestic3851 JR Upu qeent born When I was watching him play. HE with no olone def3nse or run game for the most part Did wonders. Broke every record Amd pulled the phins on his back like Jordan did the Bulls early in his career . Some of his records still stand today most stood for 20 plus years That is Greatness period. Put Brady on Mario's teams they'd be win less Try harder JR cope
He finished his career with what 2nd most game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks? I assume you’re talking about playoff success. You realize he normally drug average teams to the playoffs and played much better teams. I mean look at those Bills teams he was facing in the 90s. Those guys were much better than the dolphins. And not the mention the NFC teams he would have faced in the Super Bowl. The 9ers team he faced was just great. First team to ever go 15-1. And it’s joe Montana. It’s much easier to key into a one dimensional team. As the dolphins were. I watched them try to run the ball and many times lose the game on fumbles. Marinos best teams were his first two years. Then they finally started to get a good d in the 90s and ran into the Bills.
Only once had a 1000yd rusher, and only twice had a top ten defence. He is the greatest of all time. Give him what Montana, Elway, Brady, or Mahomes had or has.
At 1st I thought I had wrote the thread starter because I've said the exact same thing many times.
When I get in the qb debate I always ask the person to name me a super star or HOF offensive playmaker that Marino had.
Duper was a speedster & Clayton a good all around wr who was a very good route runner but Marino made them.
He had a past his prime Irving Fryer & a great possession reciever in OJ McDuffie but that's about it.
Put Marino on that Niners team with HOF'ers all over the offensive & defensive side of the ball.
Same thing with Jim Kelly in Buffalo & Peyton in Indy.
Duper and Clayton
If he had what Montana, Brady and all the others had he would not have the amount of yards he has. Because he had limited weapons he was forced to throw as much as he did.
@@AfrikanLifestylewell he’ll be called greatest passer and greatest all-time if he had all that.
@gr5382he change because he didn't have a running game. Though his line was built for pass protection.
If it wasn't for Marino, there would be 2 teams that went undefeated...
Born and raised in NYC. 54 years old. Dan Marino is the reason I became a Miami Dolphins 🐬 fan. GO PHINS…
Dan's only HOF offensive player was his center. Montana had Rice, Brady had Gronk-Edelman-Moss. Marino's accuracy was insane, only 1 pass in these clips did the receiver have to adjust his hands. Every pass was cradled by the receiver.
I met Bill Walsh in 2000 and I asked him who was the best QB ever. I fully expected him to say Joe Montana (for obvious reasons) and I was ready to debate him. He really didn't want to answer the question at all. But I said certain names He would say no. I finally said Dan Marino and he smiled and replied "smart man". Even he thought Marino was the best Qb he'd ever seen and that says a lot!
@@TheEdub1 Thinking and facts is two different things. The facts say he did absolutely nothing in the playoffs in his entire career.
@marckellough529 Did nothing. He made a superbowl. U forget in 94 Dolphins were about to go to another Superbowl. But the kicker missed an easy kick to win the game. Give Marino what Montana had on defense and offense. Montana had as much help as anyone QB ever on both sides of the ball besides maybe Terry Bradshaw!
@@marckellough529 Marino's playoff run in 84 is legendary. He just had a bad game in the bowl. But he was on fire for those playoffs.
God I love this old style film… and to hear the greats of the greats break down Marino’s throwing mechanics is gold! The greatest passer the league will ever see! He may not be yours but Dan Marino #13 is my 🐐
Dan the Man was my Hero growing up... Every week watching him come from behind. Never really got that supporting cast that truly helped him out. Long live the King! Thanks for the memories Dan!!
Dan the Man best Quarterback ever 🏈
What a great player he was.
Calling him the greatest passer of all time doesn't do him justice. He was a superior QB in multiple ways.
One of my all time favorites
Forward passer is a good way to describe it though I like to call it downfield passing because it better incorporates the deep ball aspect. Dan had the best deep ball in the history of professional football. His ball placement, touch, distance, and velocity in one package were unmatched. No one had all those traits in one arm. Rodgers is right up there though.
yeah his arm strength was out of this world. No one can have that arm strength ever again.
You put Dan on the dolphins today and he is scoring 80 touchdowns with over 7k yards. His '84 season is still the greatest single season ever.
@@brandocalrissian3294 cuz he had a strong arm
Dan could move the ball down the field and get you points quick! Miss watching him carve up defenses.
Dan love u so made watching my team very enjoyable,thanks for those years and continued blessings on you #1 fan
If I could pick one player from the entire history of the NFL to start a franchise with, it would be Dan Marino. He not only had an insanely strong arm and threw with accuracy, he could also throw with touch, could pick apart the best defenses (see Marino beating the 1985 Bears), had insane vision of the entire field, and despite being a slow runner he was so quick to feel presser and avoid a sack like no other. - IMHO, Marino was the best quarterback in the history of the NFL.
Unless you saw Marino actually play, it’s hard to fully appreciate how great of a pure passer he was. Had one of the fastest releases ever and could throw with pinpoint accuracy. He was two decades ahead of his time!
Who's the best backwards passer
While I don't believe that Marino was the greatest QB ever, he is among the very best at passing the ball. Few could match his total pass package of accuracy, arm strength, and quick release.
The previous record for TDs in a season was 37. He raised it to 48. That's beating the old record by 30%. That's like someone hitting 95 home runs or a QB this year throwing for 72 TDs !!! That year he just blew away all that came before. He was not the greatest QB ever, but he was the greatest passer ever.
No one threw like that before him. No one threw like him after he left.
Best video of him is when he is in practice and launches a ball behind the back 50 yards and drops it on a dime…
I used to work for the city of Miami and I was working that day and I was in the south end of the field I looked up and saw Clayton coming in the post next's thing I knew I seen the ball coming at me seems 🎉 like 100 miles per hour to Clayton and it made a sound like pr°°fa I said my than is man for real or mecanicly Clayton court the touch down and I wear standing there memerise how fast that ball came at me,go dolfans.
If he had a Defense, he'd won a Superbowl
Marino was blessed with very good receivers. However, I would have loved to see him play just one full season with Steve Largent and see what may have happened for BOTH of them.
Never had a hof receiver either though. Neither Duper or Clayton were. Good yes not great. Marino made them look great.
No QB ever came into the League with a better chance of success than Marino in '83 with the Dolphins. He was drafted by a team that had just played in the S.B., they were No.1 on Defense for Least Points Allowed, his backs had 2,150 yds. rushing, his Coach was the best in the League at the time, and as we now know, he was in the start of his prime. It could not have been any better.
If he could have played better and been a better passer he could have led those early to mid 80's Dolphins teams to at least 2 or 3 S.B. wins. He actually led them to a total of only 1 Conference Championship. What an underachiever.
Overall, ON DEFENSE Dan had 7 teams ('83, '84, '85, ''90, '92, '95, '98). that were Top 12 for Least Points Allowed and 5 teams ('83,'90,'92,'98,'99) that were Top 10 for Least Yds. Given Up. He had 10 teams where his backs had OVER 2,500 yds. rushing and receiving ('83,'84,'85,'86,'87,'92,'93,'94,'95,'96) . Plenty of GOOD teams.
Why no S.B. win ?? Because of the way he played in a majority of his biggest games--his championship games.In his 3 champ. game LOSSES he had 4 TD's but 6 INT's and 2 fumbles, an avg. Passer Rating of 59, and he led his offense to an avg.of only 12 p.p.g. How can a team win Championships when their QB is playing like that ?? They can't !!
Horrible casual take He did more then anyone changed the game and was the best passer to ever do it. It's a TEAM sport. Brady Mahomes with that lossy D and zero run game would do any better. Dan the man still jas records for a reason
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester Horrible CASUAL take----I gave you many STATS and FACTS about how Dan played as well as the good teams that he had and you give me your OPINION. I'll stick to my stats and facts and let you have your casual opinion.
So now that we've categorized passing, who's the greatest backwards passer?
Joe Namath was a very similar passer.
Here's the real question. Who is the best backward passer of all time?
No mention of all his records
Who’s the greatest backward passer?
Farve, cuz he loves throwing interceptions
If only Dan had Ricky Williams.
Is there a backwards or sideways passer in the NFL?
What’s this from?
Was he the greatest QB ever, that will always be debatable but as a pure passer, it's Marino and Namath.
Good shit I love it thanks for the post
As opposed to the best backwards passer?
Opposed to the greatest backward passer.
Pure passer to the other team. Mr Pick 6
In a hundred yard building with a 20ft ceiling, Dan could've probably gotten close to 50yds, twenty yards short of Jeff George
Greatest forward passer? Didn't know there was any other kind. Who is the greatest backward passer?
Nope. Brady. Not even close
He had a ton..of picks ..
Patrick Maholmes
Marino>>
2nd greatest passer to never win a Super Bowl...
No he's not ! It was Johnny U
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I saw Dan when he played at Pitt. You knew right away he was something special. Greatest pure passer the game has ever seen.
Dan never gets mentioned in the Goat discussion because he proves that the QB Super Bowl stat is bull. You have 11 guys on both sides of the ball, plus special teams, and he doesn’t control all of it. He didn’t pick his coaches, receivers, or defenses, and despite having no running game, average to bad D’s, nearly absent RB’s, he still retired with every single record. And the Dolphins haven’t sniffed a Super Bowl since he lost in 85. He proves it’s not all one position, which contradicts the narrative. If you want to win, you better have a great coach, and a top ten D, otherwise, you’ll end up like Dan Marino.
well foot ball unlike other team sports really relies on the entire team effort.
Very well said. I'm a firm believer that Dan Marino is the best quarterback of all time when it comes to the position.
He was lousy in the postseason , 9 losses plus SB 19
Best pure passer ever!!!
Umm...yes, we know by now. Whatever that means.
Nah, Jeff George had just as fast of a release and a way stronger arm...
@@bigglilwayne7050 lol no
Best ever passer. Hands down!!
When it comes to playing the position, Dan is hands down the greatest of all time.
True, just don't ask him to be a leader of men or to lead them to a Championship.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ I love how much time he spends at the stadium and with Tua. I have his picture in my office, I look at it all the time. It was a pleasure to have been able to watch him on Sundays. The icing on the cake was the fake spike against the Jets.
For me its the smoothness of Marino drop, locating the receiver and bang, that quick release and arm strength simply fantastic. The absolute great ones makes the most difficult position in the game look effortless and he's at the top of the pile.
I sure wish he got a ring
What made Dan Marino great besides his nano second release was his ability to speed read the field and find the open receiver
So glad the world is slowly realizing this truth
Still can't fill those cleats.
When we talk about the greatest of all time championships don't have that much to do with it. You can have the greatest quarterback to ever play the game on your team, but if you're defense doesn't do their job, you're going to lose the game.
When you see these games now and it’s a great long pass they say what a perfect throw
Nope! Receiver is adjusting to the pass, qb tossing to the spot, etc
Perfect, leading passes? Pretty spirals?
Dan the man
True virtuoso
The most accurate passer ever .Payton Manning is the baby Marino .
Tua is Marino 2.0
Aside from his dad, Marino was Peytons favorite player. Imagine the numbers Dan would put up in his prime with this dolphins team. 70+ touchdowns and over 7k yards.
Tua has mediocre arm strength. Hes got a quick release and is smart/accurate, but Marino had much more velocity and arm strength.@@terrencesimpkins734
No question
Besides Dan Fouts
Tua is Marino 2.0
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Tua can't lace Marino left cleet
No rings. Sorry, he is a failure.
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Causal false Stan troll comment
HOF with records that's still stand to this day a legend so you lose kid
@@tyrannicaltypomichaeltester His records went down with time , His postseason record is 5 - 10 , He losses kid .
@mr.majestic3851 JR Upu qeent born When I was watching him play. HE with no olone def3nse or run game for the most part Did wonders. Broke every record Amd pulled the phins on his back like Jordan did the Bulls early in his career . Some of his records still stand today most stood for 20 plus years That is Greatness period. Put Brady on Mario's teams they'd be win less Try harder JR cope
Except for Joe Willie Namath.
Problem was he was also the biggest choke artist in sports history. Never could perform on the big stage.
He finished his career with what 2nd most game winning drives and 4th quarter comebacks?
I assume you’re talking about playoff success. You realize he normally drug average teams to the playoffs and played much better teams. I mean look at those Bills teams he was facing in the 90s. Those guys were much better than the dolphins. And not the mention the NFC teams he would have faced in the Super Bowl.
The 9ers team he faced was just great. First team to ever go 15-1. And it’s joe Montana.
It’s much easier to key into a one dimensional team. As the dolphins were. I watched them try to run the ball and many times lose the game on fumbles.
Marinos best teams were his first two years. Then they finally started to get a good d in the 90s and ran into the Bills.
@@TheRealDill93 Many ints in the playoffs and 1-10 in road playoff games shows his extreme choking.
If dan had 5 chances in superbowls like Elway did he would have won a couple. Not only that Elway never won until he had a 2000 yard back
@@christophercanter3425 Marino choked way too much in the big games to ever win a SB.... 1-10 road playoff record tells all
Total nonsense. You're clueless.