But the competition wasn't to see who had the smoothest power. Will was smoother but paid the price by being in the wind more often to be smooth. He still used more normalized power.
Awesome vid. Similarly, I'd love to see a comparison test of power in the draft vs out in the wind at different speeds and/or different gradients. Perhaps 16/20/24/28 mph, spanning the range of casual group ride to P12 pacelines. I've got an e-gravel bike that could help lead you and Will out at up to 32 mph and am not far from you, lmk if you'd like to collaborate!
A bit of constructive criticism here: I think most of us beginner races struggle to hold low power only when there are sharp and fast corners with big accelerations afterwards. This course you raced was pretty much a straight line, in which it wouldn't be as hard for a beginner racer to stay in the group and hold low power. But I think the tips you gave apply to any course, so still a great video!
I was watching this at 6am and kept muting it hearing the dog barking in the background. Couldn’t figure out where that was coming from haha I don’t have a dog! Where that coming from haha
I get this is for fun and not a science experiment, but I’m shocked that nobody seems to understand normalized power. It’s calculated relative to your FTP. So unless you have identical FTPs set in Strava, that’s not a fair comparison. Instead you should use average power with zeros included. Or Intensity Factor could be used. You also need to try to equalize mass and aero to really make it just about the technique
"We are going to outlazy each other" is such a motivational sentence lol
Wake up babe norcal cycling just posted
The priorities. 🙈
It should be pointed out that 208/180 > 218/196; so the Will strategy was better in terms of minimising power fluctuation (smoother).
But the competition wasn't to see who had the smoothest power. Will was smoother but paid the price by being in the wind more often to be smooth. He still used more normalized power.
@@bigredlemon true that
I distinctly remember the opposite of laziness on Mountain Home.
Awesome vid. Similarly, I'd love to see a comparison test of power in the draft vs out in the wind at different speeds and/or different gradients. Perhaps 16/20/24/28 mph, spanning the range of casual group ride to P12 pacelines. I've got an e-gravel bike that could help lead you and Will out at up to 32 mph and am not far from you, lmk if you'd like to collaborate!
A bit of constructive criticism here: I think most of us beginner races struggle to hold low power only when there are sharp and fast corners with big accelerations afterwards. This course you raced was pretty much a straight line, in which it wouldn't be as hard for a beginner racer to stay in the group and hold low power. But I think the tips you gave apply to any course, so still a great video!
Now a video where you see who can do the highest normalized power without dropping the group
Ahh the Spectrum ride and with NO crashes this time!
Will use all of that this Saturday and will get drop anyway.
Big fan of Will on the channel
When/where is the spectrum group ride?
I was watching this at 6am and kept muting it hearing the dog barking in the background. Couldn’t figure out where that was coming from haha I don’t have a dog! Where that coming from haha
smooth is fast and fast is smooth
~slow is smooth and smooth is fast
@@xVertOx smooth is smooth and fast is not unfast
Rough and slow baby
My barber says the same thing.
It's always a race.
That Canada section is one of the few i could probably hang with on the Spectrum ride
I get this is for fun and not a science experiment, but I’m shocked that nobody seems to understand normalized power. It’s calculated relative to your FTP. So unless you have identical FTPs set in Strava, that’s not a fair comparison. Instead you should use average power with zeros included. Or Intensity Factor could be used. You also need to try to equalize mass and aero to really make it just about the technique
Find the tallest guy and tuck in 😊
Is it me or are his bars crooked? -U10
It seems Jeff lost some power data (according to the graphs). I guess you have to do it again.
No I just stopped pedaling
@@NorCalCycling My bad !
Use your sponsors e bikes😊
how many in the group thought what the hell are you guys doing!!!
everyone....including us XD
0:29 that does not look like a good bike fit for Will.. full extension of arms and reaching forward... weird.
GoPro super wide angle does weird things
That handlebar stem is insane!
Well that was something…
Doesn’t that technically makes you slower in the long haul cause you’re barely putting any effort in?
same speed but less effort = efficiency and you'll have more energy for the end of the race
@@NorCalCycling dang so strategic. Looks like crit racing is all about working smart not hard
aaaawesome
Got him 😂
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