@@SteakandChains It can't, using kinetic gain is forbidden in Everesting rules (for good reason, because it does exactly that - easier way to complete the hard challenge. That's a nono.)
I did this when I was trying to get the tron, found it tedious, instead I did workouts by picking the hilly route only. I got the meters, the benefit of the workout and without feeling the gradients, of course you have to use erg mode, and with all the races and group rides within no time I got the tron bike
Well let say I did a zone 2 workout in Alp de zwift for an hour, it would be easy, I would not feel the gradient but zwift would still give me the meters. Remember this vid is about the easiest and quickest way to get the Tron bike. I simply find that way less repetitive and tedious. I found it worked for me, others might chose a different route.
Ride the jungle route, turn right to do the Alpe du Zwift (quickest route to get there). Once you're up, change the challenge to also gain km for another challenge while downhilling, you can take a shower meanwhile. Earned the tron bike some years back, mainly by riding the alpe. Still missing the leightweight wheels though!
I was hitting around 1000 meters on the reverse epic KOM route every day for a couple of months. On my last day, I crushed it with 3110 meters in 4 hours and 57 miles. Plus, I finally unlocked the Tron bike!
I was mistaken in the beginning and thought the Tron came at 8800m. That was a disappointing moment hah. I am currently at 18k and have basically given up thinking about it, 50k just feels like a long way away. I will definitely give this a go thanks 👍
You/re not the first one to make that mistake and won't be the last. Though that's not nearly as bad as doing 20,000 meters of climbing only to find out none of it counts because you don't have the Everest Challenge turned on.
I’ve done over 60000m. Mostly back in the first few years after Zwift started, but didn’t know that the Everest challenge had to be selected. Was pretty disappointed when I found out as it was always frustrating racing guys on from bikes as I kinda feel like it’s cheating. I only use Zwift occasionally now when the weather is just to bad. Tempted just enter 50kg and do threshold intervals up the climbs to get it. This trick will help speed that process up!
Inside 2 months of joining Zwift, rode the Alpe every day😵💫 I rode the Tron for a week and went back to a normal rig! Only use it when it makes sense for a race don't really like it lol
@@RoadtoA Yeah it's not a bug it's just part of game. And there are no rules like in Everesting that you should always use same climb with same descent to prevent this metode of getting "free" meters.
@@Twai in Everesting you can't use this tactic, free kinetic again is against the rules.:-) Getting Tron bike is not an Everesting though, so all good!
Great video and idea, but if you ride a little higher up you'll find a better place to do the repeats, when I did the Everest Challenge I was literally getting 50 mtrs of free elevation per reapeat..
@@smarty8772 yes, higher up there is a better spot, but you already need to climb for a while to reach it. This place is good because is right at the start of the route.
I tried this a couple of years ago when I saw Tofu's Adventures (mastertofu) do this little trick, but for some reason I couldn't get the U-turn to work properly. Come to find out you have to be moving at least 5kph (?) to make the U-turn. I was waiting too long to hit the button, so it wouldn't work.
My first winter on Zwift I didn't start the challenge right away only because I didn't know about it. The next winter I didn't really concentrate on it and finally last winter I decided "I am going to get this thing". My tactic was I rode pretty much constantly on Alp du Zwift doing my workouts which were of course in ERG mode. I got it pretty fast doing that. Thing is... I don't even use it. IMHO it is kinda goofy looking and I don't like the fact that the "rider" is always seated and the "rider" never stands while pedaling. When I am grinding it up a hill with a low cadence I want my avatar to reflect that. It is also easier to see when you are drafting I feel. I know it is a great allrounder for racing etc..but I like the S-Works or the Pinarello Dogma F 2024 with a cool set of hoops on it for that. Good content though and TBH, I never thought of that as a tactic. Good stuff and good luck on reaching A (or whatever it is now).
@@Mickwhyer thank you! I guess for many people it's that "I'm not a Zwift beginner anymore, I worked hard for this" badge. And the fact that it is one of the best allarounders just adds another layer of incentive.
Yeah, I got mine about three months ago, after three years of riding, and it just sits in the garage. I think I've used it maybe a dozen times since I got it. The problem with it is, everyone and their dog rides the Tron nowadays.
It's definitely effective in terms of time/energy spent to unlock the bike, and fun as a thought exercise...but ngl I'd seriously judge anyone who wants to spend ~40 hours of their life u-turning back & forth at low intensity just to unlock a shiny virtual bike more efficiently. My total playtime is about 87 hours and i'm currently 35k into the challenge without doing anything 'grindy'. If you ride a lot then you'll organically unlock the bike quite quickly, and if you don't ride a lot then why would you invest that much time into getting a better bike in the first place lol. I think if newer players seriously attempted this then they'd burn out and stop playing tbh.
It surely is repetitive. But it can be fine if you do an ERG workout or just sprinkle it in your standard riding. When I was still doing this challenge I just occasionally loaded this up, set up an iPad with some show and it wasn't that bad.
You're not going to unlock it organically quickly if you're like me and absolutely hate climbing. That's why it took me over three years to get mine. I avoided the climbing routes like the plague.
@@voltvolt-t6g I was told about this method by a friend who introduced me to Zwift way back when. That said, by no means am I claiming I figured this out myself, I merely decided to spread the info to other people to whom it might be useful.
Good for all that Everest challenge is automaticly activated now. I started Zwift before this and activated it end of last year. So I have a total of 80 k meters, but am still 600 meters away from the Tron😂 But maybe before last round of ZRL I get it
The masochist badge for climb 25 times ADZ does half of the work. When I started on Zwift I did ADZ 2 or 3 times daily to get it because i was that kind of idiot that burnt his legs to get a stupid badge and a virtual bike for his avatar for a slight better performance. And now the older and wiser version of myself only rides with the Atomic Cruiser that is the worst bike of the game for fun...
This shouldn't make sense. The vertical meters cant be free. you need to build the momentum first. Plus only 3m per direction? I can do 1000-1200hm per hour. That is not easy but also not all out.
Riding oh no hill at less than 2w/kg gets you roughly 1000ft in 30 mins - seems high reward for very little effort and doesn’t involve the hassle of u turns
@@RoadtoA Yeah I do this to mock commutes. I don't get completely depleted and can do other cycling workouts or hit the gym and do weights! If I did road to sky I'd be wrecked and couldn't function!
I like the content but you gotta kinda stop using AI for thumbnails as it just makes the video look like you've done everything quick and fast and put no effort in
i really dislike what you did there. the tron bike should be a huge reward you have to work for. i farmed every meter without shortcuts even before doing an everesting and im proud of it. do the real work guys and ride on :)
I appreciate your honesty. To be honest, I was wondering if I should share this video, but it is not an exploit or anything. It's just physics. Momentum and speed.
FYI the mountain mash route starts you in the same spot and takes you up the Epic so you don’t have to uturn at the start of your ride. Great video!
@@SteakandChains oooh! Excellent point! That's true! Pinned!
@@RoadtoA I wonder if that segment can be used to set a virtual Everesting record attempt. It’s impressive how quickly you’re gaining elevation.
@@SteakandChains It can't, using kinetic gain is forbidden in Everesting rules (for good reason, because it does exactly that - easier way to complete the hard challenge. That's a nono.)
I did this when I was trying to get the tron, found it tedious, instead I did workouts by picking the hilly route only. I got the meters, the benefit of the workout and without feeling the gradients, of course you have to use erg mode, and with all the races and group rides within no time I got the tron bike
I mixed both approaches myself! Workouts up the Ven Top and this.
So you didn't actually climb those metres then.
Well let say I did a zone 2 workout in Alp de zwift for an hour, it would be easy, I would not feel the gradient but zwift would still give me the meters. Remember this vid is about the easiest and quickest way to get the Tron bike. I simply find that way less repetitive and tedious. I found it worked for me, others might chose a different route.
Ride the jungle route, turn right to do the Alpe du Zwift (quickest route to get there). Once you're up, change the challenge to also gain km for another challenge while downhilling, you can take a shower meanwhile.
Earned the tron bike some years back, mainly by riding the alpe. Still missing the leightweight wheels though!
I was hitting around 1000 meters on the reverse epic KOM route every day for a couple of months. On my last day, I crushed it with 3110 meters in 4 hours and 57 miles. Plus, I finally unlocked the Tron bike!
Congrats!
I was mistaken in the beginning and thought the Tron came at 8800m. That was a disappointing moment hah. I am currently at 18k and have basically given up thinking about it, 50k just feels like a long way away. I will definitely give this a go thanks 👍
Good luck! The moment you get it is glorious.
You/re not the first one to make that mistake and won't be the last. Though that's not nearly as bad as doing 20,000 meters of climbing only to find out none of it counts because you don't have the Everest Challenge turned on.
@@zwiftingwithdemonhunter oh my that would be heartbreak 😄
@@fraserp2377it took me 8 months. Didn’t cheat by doing workouts up the Alpe either, or reduced trainer difficulty. Keep at it, it’ll come 💪
@@zwiftingwithdemonhunter A guy I ride with did the whole 50,000 mtrs before turning on the Everest Challenge 😮😮
but what if i have a Z2 of 300w, i weight around 61kg and do the alpe du zwift in 40 ish minutes?
Welp...with those stats, yeah, this method is probably a waste of time for you. ;)
Still appreciate you watching.
Thank you for this, will be doing this! Ride on!
@@StHabibiJohnsonAhmedFranklin good luck!
Did that this spring...3 months of hell!!! 😂😂😂
I’ve done over 60000m. Mostly back in the first few years after Zwift started, but didn’t know that the Everest challenge had to be selected. Was pretty disappointed when I found out as it was always frustrating racing guys on from bikes as I kinda feel like it’s cheating. I only use Zwift occasionally now when the weather is just to bad. Tempted just enter 50kg and do threshold intervals up the climbs to get it. This trick will help speed that process up!
Go for it, you deserve the bike!
Inside 2 months of joining Zwift, rode the Alpe every day😵💫 I rode the Tron for a week and went back to a normal rig! Only use it when it makes sense for a race don't really like it lol
I don't ride it now either, but if they introduced a bright red color for it I would not probably ride anything else!
Wise use of game mechanic. Not like - our rogues always use Saronite bombs in their rotation(c)
@@Twai haha, I got that reference!
Also, it's not even a game mechanic, right? It's basically physics.
@@RoadtoA Yeah it's not a bug it's just part of game. And there are no rules like in Everesting that you should always use same climb with same descent to prevent this metode of getting "free" meters.
@@Twai in Everesting you can't use this tactic, free kinetic again is against the rules.:-)
Getting Tron bike is not an Everesting though, so all good!
Great video and idea, but if you ride a little higher up you'll find a better place to do the repeats, when I did the Everest Challenge I was literally getting 50 mtrs of free elevation per reapeat..
@@smarty8772 yes, higher up there is a better spot, but you already need to climb for a while to reach it. This place is good because is right at the start of the route.
Nice video. Is there a limit in time to do this challenge? Or you just start it and it will count always through?
@@marcelschlebos3975 No, you can use as much time as you need.
Just start it. All climbing you do on Zwift in every ride counts towards the total you need to get the Tron bike.
I got mine in 6 months of grinding it. It was well worth it though!
@@KxngReezy oh my god dude, that feeling when it dings, right?
nice! you were putting in some work to get it that fast
@@Mickwhyer i can officially say that I’m addicted to Zwift. And also may pain tolerance is high so it was fun. 😃
I only had 450 M left to get my tron but I did this today and it worked great! If only I had known at the beginning of the challenge
@@lauraparker3939 congrats!
How long did it take you to get a tron bike? Or are you still in the process of getting it?
Hi i started zwifting and cycling in July this years. I am at about 25000 meters now xD but i lost a Bit Focus cause of the Zwift Academy 😅
@@SliZZn You started cycling in July and hopped right into the ZA? Dude you're brave! 😅
@@RoadtoA yeah i thought they might look for people with big potential, too :D my Power is increasing weekly! Maybe next year haha
I tried this a couple of years ago when I saw Tofu's Adventures (mastertofu) do this little trick, but for some reason I couldn't get the U-turn to work properly. Come to find out you have to be moving at least 5kph (?) to make the U-turn. I was waiting too long to hit the button, so it wouldn't work.
Yup, you need to be moving. Good point!
My first winter on Zwift I didn't start the challenge right away only because I didn't know about it. The next winter I didn't really concentrate on it and finally last winter I decided "I am going to get this thing". My tactic was I rode pretty much constantly on Alp du Zwift doing my workouts which were of course in ERG mode. I got it pretty fast doing that. Thing is... I don't even use it. IMHO it is kinda goofy looking and I don't like the fact that the "rider" is always seated and the "rider" never stands while pedaling. When I am grinding it up a hill with a low cadence I want my avatar to reflect that. It is also easier to see when you are drafting I feel. I know it is a great allrounder for racing etc..but I like the S-Works or the Pinarello Dogma F 2024 with a cool set of hoops on it for that. Good content though and TBH, I never thought of that as a tactic. Good stuff and good luck on reaching A (or whatever it is now).
@@Mickwhyer thank you!
I guess for many people it's that "I'm not a Zwift beginner anymore, I worked hard for this" badge. And the fact that it is one of the best allarounders just adds another layer of incentive.
@@RoadtoA oh yeah, I agree. It is a great incentive. I wanted it in my "garage" I just don't take it out that much 🙂
Yeah, I got mine about three months ago, after three years of riding, and it just sits in the garage. I think I've used it maybe a dozen times since I got it. The problem with it is, everyone and their dog rides the Tron nowadays.
It's definitely effective in terms of time/energy spent to unlock the bike, and fun as a thought exercise...but ngl I'd seriously judge anyone who wants to spend ~40 hours of their life u-turning back & forth at low intensity just to unlock a shiny virtual bike more efficiently.
My total playtime is about 87 hours and i'm currently 35k into the challenge without doing anything 'grindy'. If you ride a lot then you'll organically unlock the bike quite quickly, and if you don't ride a lot then why would you invest that much time into getting a better bike in the first place lol. I think if newer players seriously attempted this then they'd burn out and stop playing tbh.
It surely is repetitive. But it can be fine if you do an ERG workout or just sprinkle it in your standard riding. When I was still doing this challenge I just occasionally loaded this up, set up an iPad with some show and it wasn't that bad.
You're not going to unlock it organically quickly if you're like me and absolutely hate climbing. That's why it took me over three years to get mine. I avoided the climbing routes like the plague.
BTW did you get this idea from Tofu's Adventure channel? I've only really seen it from him. If you did you should give him credit. Good vid btw
@@voltvolt-t6g I was told about this method by a friend who introduced me to Zwift way back when. That said, by no means am I claiming I figured this out myself, I merely decided to spread the info to other people to whom it might be useful.
@@RoadtoA ok thanks for responding back. I enjoyed this video and it’s good for 2024!
@@RoadtoA I’m actually hopping on the bike right now!!
@@voltvolt-t6g Have fun! (Or at least, don't have not fun! :D)
@@RoadtoA 😂🤌🤌🤌
go chase lvl100 and pick up various items along the way
Good for all that Everest challenge is automaticly activated now. I started Zwift before this and activated it end of last year. So I have a total of 80 k meters, but am still 600 meters away from the Tron😂 But maybe before last round of ZRL I get it
@@franzbrunner701 oh is it? That's comvenient!
600 meters is nothing. That will fly by.
The masochist badge for climb 25 times ADZ does half of the work. When I started on Zwift I did ADZ 2 or 3 times daily to get it because i was that kind of idiot that burnt his legs to get a stupid badge and a virtual bike for his avatar for a slight better performance. And now the older and wiser version of myself only rides with the Atomic Cruiser that is the worst bike of the game for fun...
I sure hope you have another monitor to watch TV shows on 🤣
@@ZwiftDude yea, when racing I don't watch anything else but otherwise I watch TH-cam/HBO on iPad:)
This shouldn't make sense. The vertical meters cant be free. you need to build the momentum first. Plus only 3m per direction? I can do 1000-1200hm per hour. That is not easy but also not all out.
Riding oh no hill at less than 2w/kg gets you roughly 1000ft in 30 mins - seems high reward for very little effort and doesn’t involve the hassle of u turns
@@_7ayyy Sure, but this method gives you almost twice as much. It depends on how efficient you want to be.:-)
@@RoadtoA Yeah I do this to mock commutes. I don't get completely depleted and can do other cycling workouts or hit the gym and do weights! If I did road to sky I'd be wrecked and couldn't function!
what good does getting the tron bike do if you can't climb well? Sure you get the bike, but that's nothing if you want to be a better cyclist.
I think if you put the climbing in you would be a better cyclist regardless
Great hack!
@@JayB9127 thanks!
Just enjoy getting it who wants to do a boring route none stop lol
Or join group hilly ride with 0% grade feel
Put effort on 0%?
I like the content but you gotta kinda stop using AI for thumbnails as it just makes the video look like you've done everything quick and fast and put no effort in
@@CycleWithMatts noted, thank you!
i really dislike what you did there. the tron bike should be a huge reward you have to work for. i farmed every meter without shortcuts even before doing an everesting and im proud of it. do the real work guys and ride on :)
I appreciate your honesty. To be honest, I was wondering if I should share this video, but it is not an exploit or anything. It's just physics.
Momentum and speed.