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Nate, I have been a fan of your channel for many years. 😊 the one thing I love about you has always been the happy attitude even in a crash like this one. Keep on flying and displaying the example of genuine true happiness in our hobby. Your friend, Rick.
As you well already know, its part of the hobby. No pilot ever likes crashing, but you will bounce back, its called redemption which you have done before. See you on the next video.
Your flaperons are reversed. You can see that both alerons are equally up both before and after the crash. They are supposed to both go down together and act as flaps. This is a feature of the Horizon Hobby 80mm Thunderbirds F-16, and is pre-programmed from the factory into the flight controller. If they both go up, instead of down, they act as spoilerons, not flaperons. I have no idea how your flap channel would have gotten reversed, but that's what happened. Spoilerons dump lift, and that's likely what induced your stall. You will want to add flaperon direction of travel to your 'preflight'. Looks like it held up to the crash fairly well, considering.
I always watch your videos as a subscriber. 😊 When watching the video just before the crash, it seems that the aircraft's bank angle became excessive during the turn, and the lift did not act opposite to the centrifugal force but rather induced a slip, pulling the aircraft inward with a new resultant force. It appears that the lift was less than the centrifugal force, causing the aircraft to descend during the turn. It would have been better if the aircraft had maintained a horizontal turn instead of immediately rolling into a turn with a high bank angle.
Thanks for the support! You know, the very strange thing about those control surfaces (I see now in hindsight) is that I bound in SAFE, and just put too much trust in that flight mode. I should have done a more thorough preflight before take off, besides just making sure the surfaces were moving the proper direction. A hard, and expensive lesson learned that not even some of the best stuff out there will be perfect every time. 💯⚓️
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It always makes you feel sick to your stomach when that happens!!! Especially when you can’t really figure out why it happened. Love your guys channel!!! ✈️
As an experience pilot, why are you taking off with safe on? It makes no sense to me. Safe limits throws big time and more than likely. You could’ve pulled out of that if safe was off.
I hadn’t flown this RC in quite some time and remember it making me nervous on the maiden flight 😅 So I wanted to take off in SAFE then would have switched it off. Also, I’m sure I meant to reply but probably had to step away to be Dad or something, lol. These crazy kiddos keep me on my toes!! 🙃💯⚓️
This is a perfect way to show people that crashing doesn't mean the end of a plane. Maybe you could have a video of how to repair it, what glue you use etc. Will help out new pilots! It is an expensive hobby, especially when things crash. But it's not the end if you do.
I've actually been seeing a lot of issues with SAFE receivers lately. I almost lost my 70mm TB jet the same way. I flipped safe off and the plane recovered and was able to save it. No more safe for me! Thinking about converting my entire fleet ,30+ planes, to INAV now.
Very interesting. This was like my only time I feel like SAFE failed me, other than a helicopter crash. But your insight is as I say, interesting. Maybe a new company making it? Maybe some interference like a new broadcast signal that we haven’t been made aware of? Who knows? 🤔💯⚓️
@TheRcSaylors I've always trusted the Spektrum stuff and will still fly with their rx's, but I'm not going to casually fly in safe anymore. With so many variables that can go wrong, it's nice to be able to eliminate unnecessary ones. If you have the skills, then fly the dang plane 😆
@@TheRcSaylors Nate. The setup on this plane was way way off. It was doomed from the start. Both ailerons were raised up and neither horizontal stabiliser was aligned. The only think that kept it flying as long as it did was the tech. You have a massive roll induced by the misaligned stabs and a huge drop in lift from the reflexed ailerons. Sorry. But this was not an issue with Safe. No interference other than with the radio setup/ programming.
Nate, except for the ailerons pointing up, the left elevator was hanging down significantly lower than the right and also the angle wasn‘t like the right hand side. Given that the elevator would also work a bit like an aileron, this should cause a roll to the right and it did. With the ailerons you should have been able to compensate this to get it straight again, as they are more effective… Maybe the spoileron thing killed it in the end. I also think that the preflight check wasn‘t thorough enough. It is more but checking all control surfaces moving in the right direction. (*smart ass mode off*) Could certainly happen to me too - it is way easier to see from a spectator perspective, deeply relaxed in some chair than when being a bit under stress,having to deliver a performance. And also, your perspective as a tall guy possibly standing at some weird angle might make it harder to catch. Next time 😉
Oooo, Oooo, Awwww. That actually looks fixable. We had an Eratix at our swap meet. I missed it walking in the door, but I saw it walking out. There is one you could sell.
Nate looks like ur flaperons where reveresed. They were pointing up during taxi. That plus the slow turn and high bank plus safe limiting controls led to the stall. Not often you turn immediately after take off. Esp on a jet.
Sorry for the crash! Thanks for keeping your testimony! With my experience with HH projects in the past few years, I'm not surprised that the electronics failed on your F16. I feel that their QC is sagging......
JEEZ NATE...I KNOW what happened and Nate you had nothing to do with it!!! IT WAS JUST DIRTY...dusty hinges... Makes a difference!! COOL crash though!! Thanks Saylors and geese for tonight's entertainment!! 💟👍😘
Depending on the plane and how bad the crash I'll stayed bummed out for 2 days to 2 weeks. 😢😊 I envy those RC pilots that can brush it right off and get on with their lives.
I could definitely put that back together. My BAe Hawk did something similar as the Vector malfunctioned. I yanked the gyro out, put the plane together and now it's a fully manual EDF.
I lost my Avanti V1 last spring and it sucked. I changed out the out runner fan for the new inrunner fan unit and forgot to do a CG Check and it bit me. I was able to repair it and look forward to flying it this year.
I had the exact same thing happen to me with an Arrows Marlin. went to the right and would not go left. I have no idea what caused the event. Signal loss ???
Omg nate so sorry bud😫 my buddy had this same thing happen to him and 5 feet before he was about to hit the ground he flipped the switch outta safe into manual and saved the jet! He thinks that somehow the gyro messed up because it flew great out of safe but as soon as he put it back into safe it banked hard right just like that! I think the jet is telling you to keep it imo nate 😁 and you have such an awesome collection I honestly couldn't tell you what to get rid of however I can tell you that you should probably get rid of a plane/jet that comes out with newer versions often....hope that helps oh....how bout the habu sts or ss🤔 there due for a newer version I'm sure will be coming out....I definitely would buy anything you choose to get rid of 🙏🏼✌🏼
Hi Nate and Abbey sorry on the loss of your beautiful Thunderbirds Jet she was a beauty I absolutely love your channel so much I joined I am looking forward to my years of watching your amazing channel sincere love and blessings from Canada sincerely Richard ❤God Bless
Hate to say it, Nate... But that one was on you! If you look at your elevators on taxi, you can see they are way off from center and that is what caused you to have issues...
I see what you mean. At 2:21 you can The right elevator looks slightly up and the left elevator looks slightly down, which would explain the hard right turn.
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@02:17 it doesn't look like the ailerons are moving properly - they both look up at some points, the right one never does down, just like in your post-crash check.
I say out with old & hard to find parts, in with new & parts available. It didn't seem all that high up or fast for such a spectacular many pieces break apart crash. Have you checked the truck for a body 😮❓️. You do crashes magnificently Nate. 👏👏👏👏👍. You should do a collaboration with the Slow Mo Guys & do some air & land rc crashes into walls etc in slow mo. Of course you would sacrifice some rc's, but it would be interesting 🤔. ⚓️⚓️👍💚🧡💛👍🤔👏😮👍⚓️⚓️.
Dam, i had the same thing with the eflite a10 64mm just random banked left eventough the before check everything worked just fine... well it is what it is..
Had the exact same problem with my eFlite 64mm A10. Had prior flights. Preflight was good. At the end of a 400 ft take off roll, it rose up about 20 ft and immediately became a lawn dart at full throttle.
I blame "Safe" or any installed gyro for any crash. The only way it's pilot error is if the pilot has full control. So you're good, Nate! BTW, you can ship all that foam to me as is, I will repair and fly it W/O gyro.
in the post crash investigation you notice, and it's visible, both ailerons are in a spoiler configuration(both pointed up); I think this led to a lack of lift and potentiality your crash if this was not a mode you intentionally put the jet in after the crash.
You can't really tell after a crash like that, all the flying surface can be pointed every which way! The plane have no issue or lack of lift, it turn right and dive! he would have notice any flying surface issue if he have already done a preflight inspection as he say!
Nate: With a different transmitter being used, perhaps out at the field, you needed to do the Forward Programming's 3-axis AS3X shake test, and SAFE shake test, just to be sure before take-off. And in the bench setup at home, I assume the Safe's limit you set on aileron L/R banking was left at their default 60-degrees. And watching your take-off several times, it appears a near 60-degree bank did not occur until it got up over the top of the hillside. And then, as saw one comment, your airspeed appeared to be too slow, as if you already backed off on the throttle, and as you know, no "self leveling" SAFE corrections occurs until stick is moved back to neutral. So as a result, it got tip stalled. But, then, consider this experience I had with my well flown, over 3-years old, UMX turbo timber. Which as I recall, was definitely not flown over winter and a balmy spring, which this "unexplainable" occurred last year,. And note that servo chattering was occurring with each pre-flight movement of my first flight, And once up in the air, all was well in SAFE. But then,...when did first switching of Safe to Stunt (no gyro), and being un-prepared, saw full-right bank occur before could react, which once tipped over, it just spiraled out of control into tall grass, which helped minimize the impact. And being flyable, tested it on next fight. And found it did the same,... again, and again! And unfortunately, it did it in every flight thereafter. And so, had to fly it on SAFE only. But once more in the air, and bored, found my foolishly switching over to "no gyro", again had it go full-right, and spiraling in. And crashing was only averted by quickly switching back over to SAFE. So, back to your F15 mishap, take note that with set to SAFE, and gains minimized because it is a jet, some servo chattering should still have been heard during your ground handling. And seeing that when you did a servo response check one more time, the aileron surfaces leveled out as you taxied it away. But then, something "fishy" occurred during its take-off, for as I see it, the receiver's "roll axis gyro" must have sensed an erroneous left rollover, which started ramping up a right aileron correction. And with not enough left stick override on your part, which SAFE cannot "self-level" till stick is moved back to neutral, and held their, the resultant "kiss of death" tip stall occurred. And alas, even a full left aileron stick was now futile, which one typically never expects that they have to do on take-offs, saw it fly up over the hill, and ended up in a near 360-degree spiraling crash. And although you did not mention it, one can assume that you either had the F15 already programmed from before, or it required you to create a new model in this transmitter's "System Setup". And if it was the former, and with a dusty layover on your shelf, perhaps the latter was needed, just to be sure. So,...good luck next time. And God bless you and family in your next flying adventures.
That's Very fixable. Repaired my FMS Pitts that had similar damage and it flys great and even looks great again. I used lots of bamboo skewers! LOL! Good luck.
I had the same thing happen to a Viper 90 before I quit using safe. I sent the video to horizon hobby and the crashed plane and they replaced it for free.
I know it sort of looks wonky when watching it back, but ai literally sat it on the runway, turned it on like usual, nothing different! Decided to fly in SAFE since I hadn’t flown it in a while, and Boom! She should definitely fly again soon though. 👍💯😎⚓️
Even when you're taxiing out, both ailerons appear to be above neutral. perhaps the wrong model was selected in the transmitter? A more thorough pre-flight might have caught this. I enjoy your content, but sometimes it's a bit light on the technical stuff with regards to the planes/jets/helicopters. Maybe it just gets cut from the final video because it's boring to most, but I think it could be a good learning and reinforcement opportunity for all to get a bit more technical with preflights etc.!
Pretty bad crash...not sure taking off in safe was a wise move...you have been flying a long time and weather seemed calm...having gyro off lets you have full control...but obviously something went wrong...kinda looked to me it needed more speed in that turn...but you know more..
I am very new at this hobby almost 8 months. I was very scared to crash I never pushed my self. But I have crashed a few times but only one complete right off. And that was due to me putting a 3s and 4s in parallel and it blew up really bad. Very very cool looking as a ball of fire slowly fell to the lake. Point being it doesn't bother me anymore to crash. It happens way to blow it off. You have others like me so we can always replace or rebuild.
I always have a big belly laugh when I crash, maybe me only 9 months into the hobby has something to do with it but I always laugh off crashes, it’s something for me to do when I get home
Somedays things just don't as well as planned. I always look at it as.............nobody got hurt, models can be rebuilt, and if we have learned from what happened we are better for it.
It's those Spectrum AR631 receivers. You fly enough and they WILL fail on you. Had a HABU broken in half on take off yesterday b/c of it. I have crashed more planes due to Spectrum than pilot error. Oh and two fly aways as well.
Hey Nate this recently happened to me with the eflite pitts I had used the rx in a different plane that was plug and play to test servos and esc/motor. And when I plugged the rx back in the pitts I accidentally reversed the orientation of the rx IE. safe was enabled backwards. Just a thought. That pitts is no longer with us
you should have exited safe, i had a pitts that has some kind of problem with the receiver i think i'm not sure which but switching onto safe causes it to do basically what i just saw from your jet. the pitts worked fine when i first got it but after a few crashes it started doing this
The other day I flew my habu ss right into a hard wood tree.it was raining down foam parts. I was like well there goes that. But the same day my new blade 230s showed up made it easier to take.
You shouldn't have dissed the Canadian Cobra Chicken, aka the Canada Goose. 🙂 Sorry to see you crash, but as you said, part of the hobby is the cycle of crash and repair.
Every eflite plane I have bought has had either servo issues or some kind of electric problems. I bought a Durafly efx have over 300 fights on it so far no crashes. And I have a Avanti V2. 120 fights in it so far no problem. Eflite to me is junk.
I stopped using safe after flying my Pawnee Brave a few times. At that point, I realized I didn't need safe because the Pawnee doesn't have safe. As many stated, Safe can actually prevent you from saving your plane from crashing. I had the same thing happen on my first Apprentice. It ended up in a tree. I pretty much destroyed that plane trying to get it out. As far as the AMA, your automobile insurance has to be used. AMA doesn't cover things like that windshield and will tell you you need to contact your auto insurance company. I have AMA, but know they will tell you that when you call them.
SAFE Happened to my Jet too! I’ve since completely eliminated SAFE out of my life. It’s even worse on Jets! Now Reflex is another thing, Reflex is awesome! However all my planes fly better with nothing at all. Straight dry. So I’ve abandoned gyros all together.
My bet is safe caused that crash Nate. You are a way more experienced pilot and do not need safe. Don't do that anymore. Sometimes safe glitches, and does exactly like your's just did. Safe limited the amount of control you had and once it reached the point of no return, It wouldn't let you pull it back in time.
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Nate, I have been a fan of your channel for many years. 😊 the one thing I love about you has always been the happy attitude even in a crash like this one. Keep on flying and displaying the example of genuine true happiness in our hobby. Your friend, Rick.
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Great attitude Nate. It's part of the hobby. Keep positive! Everything happens for a reason.
As you well already know, its part of the hobby. No pilot ever likes crashing, but you will bounce back, its called redemption which you have done before. See you on the next video.
Heartbreaking. Such a beautiful plane
Your flaperons are reversed. You can see that both alerons are equally up both before and after the crash. They are supposed to both go down together and act as flaps. This is a feature of the Horizon Hobby 80mm Thunderbirds F-16, and is pre-programmed from the factory into the flight controller. If they both go up, instead of down, they act as spoilerons, not flaperons. I have no idea how your flap channel would have gotten reversed, but that's what happened. Spoilerons dump lift, and that's likely what induced your stall. You will want to add flaperon direction of travel to your 'preflight'. Looks like it held up to the crash fairly well, considering.
I like how Abby giggles, she keeps it light. 😊
I always watch your videos as a subscriber. 😊 When watching the video just before the crash, it seems that the aircraft's bank angle became excessive during the turn, and the lift did not act opposite to the centrifugal force but rather induced a slip, pulling the aircraft inward with a new resultant force. It appears that the lift was less than the centrifugal force, causing the aircraft to descend during the turn. It would have been better if the aircraft had maintained a horizontal turn instead of immediately rolling into a turn with a high bank angle.
Thanks for the support! You know, the very strange thing about those control surfaces (I see now in hindsight) is that I bound in SAFE, and just put too much trust in that flight mode. I should have done a more thorough preflight before take off, besides just making sure the surfaces were moving the proper direction. A hard, and expensive lesson learned that not even some of the best stuff out there will be perfect every time. 💯⚓️
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It always makes you feel sick to your stomach when that happens!!! Especially when you can’t really figure out why it happened. Love your guys channel!!! ✈️
As an experience pilot, why are you taking off with safe on? It makes no sense to me. Safe limits throws big time and more than likely. You could’ve pulled out of that if safe was off.
We will never know 🤷🏽♂️
I hadn’t flown this RC in quite some time and remember it making me nervous on the maiden flight 😅 So I wanted to take off in SAFE then would have switched it off.
Also, I’m sure I meant to reply but probably had to step away to be Dad or something, lol. These crazy kiddos keep me on my toes!! 🙃💯⚓️
❤❤❤❤😂😂😂😂😂good flight I can't fly that plane for 10 seconds
I like your Sense of Humor :) Mainly why i watch. You both interaction to each other is GREAT TOO.
This is a perfect way to show people that crashing doesn't mean the end of a plane. Maybe you could have a video of how to repair it, what glue you use etc. Will help out new pilots! It is an expensive hobby, especially when things crash. But it's not the end if you do.
I've actually been seeing a lot of issues with SAFE receivers lately. I almost lost my 70mm TB jet the same way. I flipped safe off and the plane recovered and was able to save it. No more safe for me! Thinking about converting my entire fleet ,30+ planes, to INAV now.
Safe is JUNK. Never like them, never will........
Very interesting. This was like my only time I feel like SAFE failed me, other than a helicopter crash. But your insight is as I say, interesting. Maybe a new company making it? Maybe some interference like a new broadcast signal that we haven’t been made aware of? Who knows? 🤔💯⚓️
@TheRcSaylors I've always trusted the Spektrum stuff and will still fly with their rx's, but I'm not going to casually fly in safe anymore. With so many variables that can go wrong, it's nice to be able to eliminate unnecessary ones. If you have the skills, then fly the dang plane 😆
@@TheRcSaylors Nate. The setup on this plane was way way off. It was doomed from the start. Both ailerons were raised up and neither horizontal stabiliser was aligned. The only think that kept it flying as long as it did was the tech. You have a massive roll induced by the misaligned stabs and a huge drop in lift from the reflexed ailerons. Sorry. But this was not an issue with Safe. No interference other than with the radio setup/ programming.
I would love the P-17
Nate, except for the ailerons pointing up, the left elevator was hanging down significantly lower than the right and also the angle wasn‘t like the right hand side. Given that the elevator would also work a bit like an aileron, this should cause a roll to the right and it did. With the ailerons you should have been able to compensate this to get it straight again, as they are more effective… Maybe the spoileron thing killed it in the end. I also think that the preflight check wasn‘t thorough enough. It is more but checking all control surfaces moving in the right direction. (*smart ass mode off*) Could certainly happen to me too - it is way easier to see from a spectator perspective, deeply relaxed in some chair than when being a bit under stress,having to deliver a performance. And also, your perspective as a tall guy possibly standing at some weird angle might make it harder to catch. Next time 😉
Oooo, Oooo, Awwww. That actually looks fixable. We had an Eratix at our swap meet. I missed it walking in the door, but I saw it walking out. There is one you could sell.
Nate looks like ur flaperons where reveresed. They were pointing up during taxi. That plus the slow turn and high bank plus safe limiting controls led to the stall. Not often you turn immediately after take off. Esp on a jet.
Sorry for the crash! Thanks for keeping your testimony! With my experience with HH projects in the past few years, I'm not surprised that the electronics failed on your F16. I feel that their QC is sagging......
JEEZ NATE...I KNOW what happened and Nate you had nothing to do with it!!! IT WAS JUST DIRTY...dusty hinges... Makes a difference!! COOL crash though!! Thanks Saylors and geese for tonight's entertainment!! 💟👍😘
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Depending on the plane and how bad the crash I'll stayed bummed out for 2 days to 2 weeks. 😢😊 I envy those RC pilots that can brush it right off and get on with their lives.
Noooo! That was such a great jet too!
I have a good feeling that I’ll patch this right up and fly again soon! 👍💯🙃⚓️
So sorry, that is a bummer. Better luck next time.
It wasn’t even a very “epic” crash either!! 😢😅 I’m feeling good about fixing this though 👍💯⚓️
@@TheRcSaylors Ya just wondering what the heck went wrong with the controls, if you find out let us know. Love ya.
I could definitely put that back together. My BAe Hawk did something similar as the Vector malfunctioned. I yanked the gyro out, put the plane together and now it's a fully manual EDF.
This proves you do not cut out the bad stuff and things DO happen.
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I lost my Avanti V1 last spring and it sucked. I changed out the out runner fan for the new inrunner fan unit and forgot to do a CG Check and it bit me. I was able to repair it and look forward to flying it this year.
Foam Tac would work really well here!
I had the exact same thing happen to me with an Arrows Marlin. went to the right and would not go left. I have no idea what caused the event. Signal loss ???
Bro crashing just happens but that was a beautiful jet great video as always
Omg nate so sorry bud😫 my buddy had this same thing happen to him and 5 feet before he was about to hit the ground he flipped the switch outta safe into manual and saved the jet! He thinks that somehow the gyro messed up because it flew great out of safe but as soon as he put it back into safe it banked hard right just like that! I think the jet is telling you to keep it imo nate 😁 and you have such an awesome collection I honestly couldn't tell you what to get rid of however I can tell you that you should probably get rid of a plane/jet that comes out with newer versions often....hope that helps oh....how bout the habu sts or ss🤔 there due for a newer version I'm sure will be coming out....I definitely would buy anything you choose to get rid of 🙏🏼✌🏼
Sad day, this is my dream plane. Sorry for the crash but way to stay positive through it.
Hi Nate and Abbey sorry on the loss of your beautiful Thunderbirds Jet she was a beauty I absolutely love your channel so much I joined I am looking forward to my years of watching your amazing channel sincere love and blessings from Canada sincerely Richard ❤God Bless
Sorry about your luck, but look at the bright side. At least you know which one to sell.
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As a Navy man, I can say the problem was definitely the USAF on the wing.
Haha
lol 😂💯⚓️
Hate to say it, Nate... But that one was on you! If you look at your elevators on taxi, you can see they are way off from center and that is what caused you to have issues...
I see what you mean. At 2:21 you can The right elevator looks slightly up and the left elevator looks slightly down, which would explain the hard right turn.
LMAO. YOU’RE FIRED 🤣🤣🤣🤙🤙🤙🤙
Get familiar with CA glue and kicker. 10seconds glue and no foam melting issues. You can build layers and get thickness with it too.
The jet was suicidal , sad, very depressed....left a good bye note and everything
Sorry for the crash!
It was a beautiful bird!
Send it to my husband, he'll fix it up. He loves to rebuild planes
This is why I do not use safe unless inflight I get disoriented
This why TheRcSaylors are one of the best they will always tell us if it’s not worth picking up etc and why we always support them have been for years now happy flying all 😊😊😊😊⚓️⚓️⚓️⚓️
Still learning with my Carbon Cub S2
@02:17 it doesn't look like the ailerons are moving properly - they both look up at some points, the right one never does down, just like in your post-crash check.
I say out with old & hard to find parts, in with new & parts available. It didn't seem all that high up or fast for such a spectacular many pieces break apart crash. Have you checked the truck for a body 😮❓️. You do crashes magnificently Nate. 👏👏👏👏👍. You should do a collaboration with the Slow Mo Guys & do some air & land rc crashes into walls etc in slow mo. Of course you would sacrifice some rc's, but it would be interesting 🤔. ⚓️⚓️👍💚🧡💛👍🤔👏😮👍⚓️⚓️.
wow bud that sucks was hoping you would give that to me lol thanks for the vid guys
Oh, I’m gonna fix this and fly it again!! 👍💯😎⚓️
@@TheRcSaylors i know you will
I'm so sorry! I hope that you can rebuilt it.
thats unlucky.. ive lossed RC Boats on a Barrage just watched it drifting away and their was nothing i can do.. RC is so Cool
Epic
Dam, i had the same thing with the eflite a10 64mm just random banked left eventough the before check everything worked just fine... well it is what it is..
Had the exact same problem with my eFlite 64mm A10. Had prior flights. Preflight was good. At the end of a 400 ft take off roll, it rose up about 20 ft and immediately became a lawn dart at full throttle.
I blame "Safe" or any installed gyro for any crash. The only way it's pilot error is if the pilot has full control. So you're good, Nate! BTW, you can ship all that foam to me as is, I will repair and fly it W/O gyro.
Hate to see that happen. Looks like you can build it back. The bad part is the pilot didn't eject. Hope you figure it out. Maybe bad radio link.
in the post crash investigation you notice, and it's visible, both ailerons are in a spoiler configuration(both pointed up); I think this led to a lack of lift and potentiality your crash if this was not a mode you intentionally put the jet in after the crash.
You can't really tell after a crash like that, all the flying surface can be pointed every which way! The plane have no issue or lack of lift, it turn right and dive! he would have notice any flying surface issue if he have already done a preflight inspection as he say!
Nate: With a different transmitter being used, perhaps out at the field, you needed to do the Forward Programming's 3-axis AS3X shake test, and SAFE shake test, just to be sure before take-off. And in the bench setup at home, I assume the Safe's limit you set on aileron L/R banking was left at their default 60-degrees. And watching your take-off several times, it appears a near 60-degree bank did not occur until it got up over the top of the hillside. And then, as saw one comment, your airspeed appeared to be too slow, as if you already backed off on the throttle, and as you know, no "self leveling" SAFE corrections occurs until stick is moved back to neutral. So as a result, it got tip stalled. But, then, consider this experience I had with my well flown, over 3-years old, UMX turbo timber. Which as I recall, was definitely not flown over winter and a balmy spring, which this "unexplainable" occurred last year,. And note that servo chattering was occurring with each pre-flight movement of my first flight, And once up in the air, all was well in SAFE. But then,...when did first switching of Safe to Stunt (no gyro), and being un-prepared, saw full-right bank occur before could react, which once tipped over, it just spiraled out of control into tall grass, which helped minimize the impact. And being flyable, tested it on next fight. And found it did the same,... again, and again! And unfortunately, it did it in every flight thereafter. And so, had to fly it on SAFE only. But once more in the air, and bored, found my foolishly switching over to "no gyro", again had it go full-right, and spiraling in. And crashing was only averted by quickly switching back over to SAFE. So, back to your F15 mishap, take note that with set to SAFE, and gains minimized because it is a jet, some servo chattering should still have been heard during your ground handling. And seeing that when you did a servo response check one more time, the aileron surfaces leveled out as you taxied it away. But then, something "fishy" occurred during its take-off, for as I see it, the receiver's "roll axis gyro" must have sensed an erroneous left rollover, which started ramping up a right aileron correction. And with not enough left stick override on your part, which SAFE cannot "self-level" till stick is moved back to neutral, and held their, the resultant "kiss of death" tip stall occurred. And alas, even a full left aileron stick was now futile, which one typically never expects that they have to do on take-offs, saw it fly up over the hill, and ended up in a near 360-degree spiraling crash. And although you did not mention it, one can assume that you either had the F15 already programmed from before, or it required you to create a new model in this transmitter's "System Setup". And if it was the former, and with a dusty layover on your shelf, perhaps the latter was needed, just to be sure. So,...good luck next time. And God bless you and family in your next flying adventures.
That's Very fixable. Repaired my FMS Pitts that had similar damage and it flys great and even looks great again. I used lots of bamboo skewers! LOL! Good luck.
has happened to us all at one point or another. looks like a 15-20 min fix tops with foam tac and maybe some CA. looking forward to the re-maiden.
I had that before, all it would do was go in circles, I had to dump it. Mind you, you did jinx yourself. I recon that’s all fixable. 🙏🏻
Thank you for showing us what not to do with the most famous plane
5:36 “You’re fired” hahaha
I had the same thing happen to a Viper 90 before I quit using safe. I sent the video to horizon hobby and the crashed plane and they replaced it for free.
That’s actually very awesome of them! It’s great to know that customer service still exists with some companies 👍💯😎⚓️
Need to look at the black box. At least no one got hurt.
These things happen. I am sure you will be able to rebuild it for Abby to fly.
Did you have flaperons set up and were they down. Because this plane will not turn any direction but right with flaperons deployed.
I know it sort of looks wonky when watching it back, but ai literally sat it on the runway, turned it on like usual, nothing different! Decided to fly in SAFE since I hadn’t flown it in a while, and Boom! She should definitely fly again soon though. 👍💯😎⚓️
ai should just be “I” typo 😉
Nate your the master I no it'll fly again I guess that's why I never have went deep into the hobby I Gust can't a ford it you still the man
Sorry for the crash. You two are great. Let me know what you want to do with it because if you want to sell it let me know.
That is a beautiful plane. Why did you have to crash it?
It can be fixed!!! That's just part of the hobby. Had a similar experience with a Corsair. Still hurts :( 'Dumb thumbs'...LOL
She should fly again! 👍💯😎⚓️
Did your preflight include a range check?
It’s a expensive hobby to fix and fly but I love the hobby. Amen to that.💯🙏 and to my Lord
Even when you're taxiing out, both ailerons appear to be above neutral. perhaps the wrong model was selected in the transmitter? A more thorough pre-flight might have caught this. I enjoy your content, but sometimes it's a bit light on the technical stuff with regards to the planes/jets/helicopters. Maybe it just gets cut from the final video because it's boring to most, but I think it could be a good learning and reinforcement opportunity for all to get a bit more technical with preflights etc.!
Pretty bad crash...not sure taking off in safe was a wise move...you have been flying a long time and weather seemed calm...having gyro off lets you have full control...but obviously something went wrong...kinda looked to me it needed more speed in that turn...but you know more..
Decision made nate 😅😢 maybe the dust got in between the moving parts 😮
No worries my brother I had the same airplane I lost it in a maiden flight lost communication with the radio but god is good allthe time godbless
Super easy fix!
I am very new at this hobby almost 8 months. I was very scared to crash I never pushed my self. But I have crashed a few times but only one complete right off. And that was due to me putting a 3s and 4s in parallel and it blew up really bad. Very very cool looking as a ball of fire slowly fell to the lake. Point being it doesn't bother me anymore to crash. It happens way to blow it off. You have others like me so we can always replace or rebuild.
If your not crashing your not flying just part of the hobby✈✈✈✈
Thank you! 🙏 It honestly makes me happy to know that others share the same mindset. You rock 👍😎💯⚓️
I always have a big belly laugh when I crash, maybe me only 9 months into the hobby has something to do with it but I always laugh off crashes, it’s something for me to do when I get home
Bummer, but everything has to be thought of as a compete write off as soon as you take off.
That's a tough one. I can't stand when they crash and don't know why. I then hesitate to put the electronics in something else.
Oh, they won’t be leaving this plane for sure. I’m definitely going to fix it and remaiden it soon! This time, likely out of SAFE 👍💯😅⚓️
Somedays things just don't as well as planned. I always look at it as.............nobody got hurt, models can be rebuilt, and if we have learned from what happened we are better for it.
it dosent look to bad from where I'm seeing it, a couple of my planes are mainly glue and still fly like new
It's those Spectrum AR631 receivers. You fly enough and they WILL fail on you. Had a HABU broken in half on take off yesterday b/c of it. I have crashed more planes due to Spectrum than pilot error. Oh and two fly aways as well.
A little bit of Hot glue and youre all good hehe
You'll always be at peace with God in your life! Great video
Hey Nate this recently happened to me with the eflite pitts I had used the rx in a different plane that was plug and play to test servos and esc/motor. And when I plugged the rx back in the pitts I accidentally reversed the orientation of the rx IE. safe was enabled backwards. Just a thought. That pitts is no longer with us
That's sad. Sometimes electronics just go kafluy!
Let us know if you figure out what was the cause of the crash. You walked away and that’s what’s most important.
you should have exited safe, i had a pitts that has some kind of problem with the receiver i think i'm not sure which but switching onto safe causes it to do basically what i just saw from your jet. the pitts worked fine when i first got it but after a few crashes it started doing this
The other day I flew my habu ss right into a hard wood tree.it was raining down foam parts. I was like well there goes that. But the same day my new blade 230s showed up made it easier to take.
You shouldn't have dissed the Canadian Cobra Chicken, aka the Canada Goose. 🙂 Sorry to see you crash, but as you said, part of the hobby is the cycle of crash and repair.
Every eflite plane I have bought has had either servo issues or some kind of electric problems. I bought a Durafly efx have over 300 fights on it so far no crashes. And I have a Avanti V2. 120 fights in it so far no problem. Eflite to me is junk.
Dude it was such a beautiful plane 😂
%100 fixable. Light work.
Agreed! She will fly again on our channel 👍💯⚓️
I stopped using safe after flying my Pawnee Brave a few times. At that point, I realized I didn't need safe because the Pawnee doesn't have safe. As many stated, Safe can actually prevent you from saving your plane from crashing. I had the same thing happen on my first Apprentice. It ended up in a tree. I pretty much destroyed that plane trying to get it out. As far as the AMA, your automobile insurance has to be used. AMA doesn't cover things like that windshield and will tell you you need to contact your auto insurance company. I have AMA, but know they will tell you that when you call them.
Something looks wonky on the preflight with the ailerons.
Look who has the sense of humor now! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Servo's fail and excreta occurs.
why are both the ailerons "UP" ??
SAFE Happened to my Jet too! I’ve since completely eliminated SAFE out of my life. It’s even worse on Jets! Now Reflex is another thing, Reflex is awesome! However all my planes fly better with nothing at all. Straight dry. So I’ve abandoned gyros all together.
Very interesting! I’m starting to hear about these incidents the more often we show it happening. 🤔💯⚓️
My bet is safe caused that crash Nate. You are a way more experienced pilot and do not need safe. Don't do that anymore. Sometimes safe glitches, and does exactly like your's just did. Safe limited the amount of control you had and once it reached the point of no return, It wouldn't let you pull it back in time.
Crap, sorry man