Very high level interesting content again! There is just one thing thats in my mind; isnt this way of studying very vulnerable (to changes in poker strategy)? Because I feel like it could either become outdated, or that we could always adjust a few things here and there in a solve to get to an answer that we prefer. A sort of confirmation bias or something
Good and valid points. You should not interpret this as "ok bb vs btn on a low board that runs out high we can herocall" you should look at it more from conceptual perspective. "when there are alot of eq hands villain can barrel, its likely, due to how players construct their ranges, that there is a unbalance and we could deviate from GTO''. Or to take it even further, ''The way villain constructs his ranges has a big impact on how we respond'', thats an example of a principle of how poker works that we can apply to various scenarios. This example that i used is just an outcome of a bigger concept. As for the confirmation bias, you should always be self aware when starting to nodelock or trying to find tipping points in calling/folding if you are pushing it to justify your play. In this example, i think i didnt push it to vey extremes and its data used with phychology that led to this answer, so i dont think this one is sensitive to confirmation bias.
If you continue to study theory, then you have an evergreen strategy, as you will know more and more what the approximate GTO ranges should be and can always adjust back to a GTO strategy as a default.
The content is getting better and better! This is one of the problems I ran into. Where can I find population tendencies? Can I extract those out of PT4? Or is there standard data available from a good place on the internet?
When you play hands and use a tracking program it saves all the hands you played and gathers data on your opponents. You should then group all of your opponents which are regs (or recreationals if you want to look at general recreational tendencies) in one alias and there you go... the more hands you played, and the more players you add to your alias the more data you will have
Hello, Very interesting video. I would like to point out that if we start calling all pairs on the river then any reg will quickly note that and will mark us as calling station. The next thing he is going to do is start to underbluff vs hero. This will make our strategy of calling everything suboptimal. Then the game of cat and mouse begins, which can be very dangerous. If we stick to a theoretical strategy do we actually lose a lot of EV if opponents are making some deviations like that?
Its important to realise that this is just a specific example, i could also use a spot where we will always herofold in a vaccuum so its not like your opponent will just see you station everywhere all the time. Your also spinning of in to the future with your arguments, "The next thing he is going to do is start to underbluff vs hero" is he? and is that the correct adjustment or should he just valuebet thinner? lets first exploit him and look for signs he is countering our exploit before not exploiting him in the first place. Another thing to point out is when you say you want to sick to a GTO strategy its important to realise we can only make an attempt to do so, we will never get the frequenties right in this spot ingame
@@WakkoThe that is so true. You´ll need to have hundreds if not thousands of hours into your strategy, to have the right frequencies, even on a simpler 100bb strategy.
The problem with this approach is that after few showdowns, when u call 3rd barrel from villain with K high he is likely to start bluffing less and value bet a wider range. This is why gto is important, when u try to exploit someone u become open to exploits by yourself. Basically u should never play gto vs weaker opponents, u need it only vs good regs who is capable of noticing your deviations. But anyway solver really gives a good understanding of ranges and a solid strategy
So, in nl25, where i play, people give up a lot with hands that will never win the pot without betting, so, probally i should be folding almost anything that cant win vs value bets? Some agroo fishs would have too many bluffs, but 90% of population will have very few
Very interesting! Maybe one of the most educative poker content! Keep rocking!
You make fantastic videos man. ! Thanks a lot. Love these theory videos
I like big bets and I cannot lie!
Very good video, excellent point of view, I like it
More lessons please...excellent content!
Very high level interesting content again! There is just one thing thats in my mind; isnt this way of studying very vulnerable (to changes in poker strategy)? Because I feel like it could either become outdated, or that we could always adjust a few things here and there in a solve to get to an answer that we prefer. A sort of confirmation bias or something
Good and valid points. You should not interpret this as "ok bb vs btn on a low board that runs out high we can herocall" you should look at it more from conceptual perspective. "when there are alot of eq hands villain can barrel, its likely, due to how players construct their ranges, that there is a unbalance and we could deviate from GTO''. Or to take it even further, ''The way villain constructs his ranges has a big impact on how we respond'', thats an example of a principle of how poker works that we can apply to various scenarios. This example that i used is just an outcome of a bigger concept.
As for the confirmation bias, you should always be self aware when starting to nodelock or trying to find tipping points in calling/folding if you are pushing it to justify your play. In this example, i think i didnt push it to vey extremes and its data used with phychology that led to this answer, so i dont think this one is sensitive to confirmation bias.
If you continue to study theory, then you have an evergreen strategy, as you will know more and more what the approximate GTO ranges should be and can always adjust back to a GTO strategy as a default.
also this way of studying is just forbidden by most poker websites terms and conditions.
The content is getting better and better! This is one of the problems I ran into.
Where can I find population tendencies? Can I extract those out of PT4? Or is there standard data available from a good place on the internet?
When you play hands and use a tracking program it saves all the hands you played and gathers data on your opponents. You should then group all of your opponents which are regs (or recreationals if you want to look at general recreational tendencies) in one alias and there you go... the more hands you played, and the more players you add to your alias the more data you will have
@@WakkoThe thanks! I’m going to create this. Curious what I’m finding out.
hey were did u (or I) get the population tendencies numbers from?
Hello,
Very interesting video.
I would like to point out that if we start calling all pairs on the river then any reg will quickly note that and will mark us as calling station.
The next thing he is going to do is start to underbluff vs hero.
This will make our strategy of calling everything suboptimal.
Then the game of cat and mouse begins, which can be very dangerous.
If we stick to a theoretical strategy do we actually lose a lot of EV if opponents are making some deviations like that?
Its important to realise that this is just a specific example, i could also use a spot where we will always herofold in a vaccuum so its not like your opponent will just see you station everywhere all the time. Your also spinning of in to the future with your arguments, "The next thing he is going to do is start to underbluff vs hero" is he? and is that the correct adjustment or should he just valuebet thinner? lets first exploit him and look for signs he is countering our exploit before not exploiting him in the first place. Another thing to point out is when you say you want to sick to a GTO strategy its important to realise we can only make an attempt to do so, we will never get the frequenties right in this spot ingame
@@WakkoThe that is so true. You´ll need to have hundreds if not thousands of hours into your strategy, to have the right frequencies, even on a simpler 100bb strategy.
The problem with this approach is that after few showdowns, when u call 3rd barrel from villain with K high he is likely to start bluffing less and value bet a wider range. This is why gto is important, when u try to exploit someone u become open to exploits by yourself. Basically u should never play gto vs weaker opponents, u need it only vs good regs who is capable of noticing your deviations. But anyway solver really gives a good understanding of ranges and a solid strategy
So, in nl25, where i play, people give up a lot with hands that will never win the pot without betting, so, probally i should be folding almost anything that cant win vs value bets? Some agroo fishs would have too many bluffs, but 90% of population will have very few
At the end we don't see the hand of the villian, I would FOLD this hand but was that the wisest decision? Plz let me know . TY
very wise
Nice videoo!
More theory videos, please!
I'm starting to realise I can overfold almost every river in 10z. I just needed a reg to tell me. I'll see you up at 5k soon Wakko.
yes, u can. in nl25zoom too. without notes, just overfold vs population i micros, cause they give up a lot on river
ghilleyyyyyyyyy
More of these, less of play n explain :) make ur channel unique