Now this is a review, man. People who actually rode the bike full time, know everything about it. The spare key info was very important to me, and I appreciate that tip. Thanks a lot, man!
@@JT2JZ that's true, I've never heard anyone say it but that's exactly what it feels like, I like your video and nice collection dude, that's quite a line up.
This has been such an important video for me. I have been riding a 250cc for almost 2 years now and am ready to upgrade. These are two of my favorite options so this is a useful comparison. Thanks for the video.
I'm siding with Bruce on this one. Snag up a 600. The jump you will have from a 600 to a 1000 is about the same as a 250 to 600. My R6 was awesome, but it does get a little old because it was to easy to ride. Meaning, it was no work to go fast and hold corners. Youll have way more power in the road than you'll need. You'll hang with any sports car out there.
I agree as well. If you were happy riding the 250 for two years a 600 will be a lot of bike from what you are used to! Better to error on the safe side my friend.
Ya it doesn’t take much to change the power to weight ratio on such a small bike. You probably wouldn’t notice as much on a heavier cruiser style bike or Harley with more low end torque.
Great job explaining these bikes in a real world comparison. It's awesome to hear that from people who actually spend time riding the bikes. Ride safe!!
Hey Matt, I suggest the r7 as a step to either. Sounds weird going for a 700cc over a 600cc but it's a much more relaxed ride however if you are experienced and capable enough then the r6 is an amazing and fun ride. Ride safe bud
I have an 02 R1 with a D&D slip on exhaust, power Comander, slipper clutch, lowering kit, I bought it 2nd hand so I don't remember all the specific upgrades but it is insanely fast. My buddy has an 03 R6 same type of upgrades we've swapped bikes on rides and in city riding the R6 is better to ride because the R1 just wants to go. In first gear with no throttle the R1 idles at about 25mph the R6 dosen't really have any power till you get past 4000rpms. On the highway the R1 is king it has insane tourqe and speed at low RPMS you don't have to hammer on the R1 the power is there through out the rpm range. Handling I haven't noticed that big of a difference in handling maybe because my suspension isn't stock. The only problem I had with my R1 is cross winds on the highway I was getting blown all over the road, but the rear tire was at 25psi I put at 35psi no more floating in the crosswinds. My only complaint with both the R6 and R1 is they are not comfortable on long rides. My Ninja 500r way more comfortable on long rides and my ZX6R (636) is extremely comfortable and I think it's faster then the R6. The R1 has low beams on both sides and highbeams on both sides. As far as ignition replacement you can get an ignition, Gas tank lock and seat lock on Ebay for under $60 for the R6 or the R1. My R1 came with a plain steel key. I bought a 3pack of blank yamaha keys red, blue, and black on Amazon for like $20 and had HomeDepot cut me a spare.
@@JT2JZ yes I deed, I got over 2500 bucks on aftermarket accessories, the bike likes the attention it gets. Next is going to be a 300 Fat tire Kit with Hellian Chrome wheels 👌
I drive the Fazer 1000 (2002) first edition an Amazing very comfortable, very fast bike.0-100km/t 3.5 sek. Max.Enoughf for me 66year old Guy. Thank you for one of the Best video i have seen. Drive carefully, you got only 1 life❤👋 Frank Larsen Denmark
Agreed man. My first bike was a litre bike ( 2004 cbr1000rr ). For my own personal bike I would never own anything smaller. I’m a power junky at the end of the day 🤘. Glad to hear other companies are starting to clone keys. Now If only the dealerships would get on board!
What kit did you get to lower your R1? I should look into that for my GF and her R6. She is only 5’4. More videos on the way! Thanks for the support man.
I wish I saw this sooner. Owned a 6 for years and thinking of upgrading. Slated to buy a 1 used in ~2 weeks. This was very helpful, thank you!! Mind if I PM you next week with any last minute questions I may have?
@@JT2JZ So I didn't realize YT didn't offer any sort of DM functionality...figured it would. Is there another platform we can leverage to toss ideas around?
I have the same generation R1 04/06 and a 16 R6 and with proper setup this gen R1 can turn in like no other to the point my R1 out turns my R6 but I have yet to set up the R6 and am fairly certain this will change. That said a well set up R1 with Bridgestones latest DOT race rubber is unbelievable!!!! Something about the Bridgestone front it turns in like no other.
Hi Jt2jz, u made such a simple n informative video, I think u should create a separate channel for Motorbike content. Such on point info, which is hard to find. loved it. U will have great success.......... If u keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words and support. When summer comes I will definitely be making more bike / riding videos. Maybe some stunting / tips and tricks along the way. I’m relatively new to TH-cam still but learning as I go. More bike content is a guarantee though. These videos are getting the most viewers.
@JT2JZ looking forward to that one as well! I currently have a gen 1 hayabusa and an 09 R1. Going to be doing a comparison on my channel of those as well :). You are right about the Crossplane R1 though, it does have a goofy low end response compared to other sportbikes. I was just watching your cross plane vs flat plane vid a few mins ago.
Thanks for the kind words. I’m waiting to see if I can register my TH-cam account after I get 1000 subscriptions. Get your friends to subscribe. It will give me more motivation to keep making content. I do have a lot of video ideas for the future!
The R1 is literally a street legal MotoGP bike when you get them unrestricted. The R6 is the chilled out little brother that gets fist bumped by its older brothers friends lol
Both bikes are amazing and definitely have unique characteristics to offer. I always enjoy the ride no matter what bike I’m on. The older I get the more bikes I want because I appreciate them all! It’s very inconvenient some days 😆
Great review I liked it. The only thing I dident like was comparing looks and such, I get comparing mechanical things and such to and extent. But if I was to compare and 1990’s bike to a newer 2020+ version… then… yea you get the point. I know their only 3 years apart BUT they did change the looks in between z just sayn!! Still really enjoyed the video thanks!!!
600 is great if you get it new. second hand you are buying a bike that has been thrashed by some other hoon and maybe asking for trouble. I love both bikes and that is why I have an FZ1 gen 2. No bow leggedness on the fizzy. Nothing but comfort and wanting to ride all day long.
Yes unfortunately most crotch rockets are cheap enough that younger guys buy and use them for racing / stunting. As the years go by it does get harder to find used bikes in good shape. I love the FZ1 for how practical and comfortable they are! I am a little disappointed with the power output though. They detune the fz1 so much that my r6 is very similar power wise. If they had the same engine tune from a traditional R1 it would be the perfect bike!
I also heard that Yamaha is discontinuing the r6. They are not updating it to keep up with stricter emission regulations. They are only going to be selling it as a track use ( non street legal ) version now. I was pretty disappointed when I heard this!
Much more power in the R1, the R6 screams more and you have to use the gears more, gets tiring after a while and you have to have more rpms to get the power. I have 2 R1s and 2 Honda Vfr 750/800 and prefer the riding style of the VFRs and better for cruising, but the power in the R1s are great.
R1 just dominates all bikes. No argument. I’ve owned both and I love both. But the r1 is just not compatible to anything on this planet! Also, 600s are sought after especially the r6 because they stopped making it. Producing the pile of shite R7 now 🤮
Thanks bro. I’m about to drop a new video soon comparing my old 2006 R1 to my new 2012 crossplane engine R1. Maybe it can give you even more insight with the different R1 generations. Cheers.
@@JT2JZ the big bang 09 is my dream bike, looks so nice. But i want to start with the 05 as i dont want to spend too much on a bike. But yes bro, I'll be looking forward to see that comparisson.
I will say for a first bike the older flate plane engines seem to be a little more reliable. I’ve never had to work on any of my older bikes as much as I have already with my new crossplane. I love my new bike still but current it’s a love hate relationship 😆
Any differences in terms of passenger comfort? I know we're talking about sport bikes, but my gf rides a lot with me so I'm hesitating between the two, R6 vs R1 Crossplane. Thanks and great vids btw!
Seat comfort for the passenger is very similar between the two bikes. As the driver I enjoy doubling on the r1 more. The seat height is lower and longer wheel base makes it feel more stable with two people. The low end torque is also nice for the extra body weight
Buy an R6. You'll never get to use all those power in the R1 most of the time. If your country is traffic free playground, then R1 is maybe what you should buy. R6 is more than fast enough for the road and is more fun in the twisties.
For a daily driver I actually enjoy the r1 more. It has way more usable torque in the low rpm range where you spend most of your time casually cruising around. For example hit a yellow light, no need to down shift. Just roll into throttle no matter what gear you are in. Very street friendly for me.
@@JT2JZ true. R6 is for trigger happy type of a person I guess (like me unfortunately). Changing gear is too addicting for me. I definitely don't deserve the R1 because of that lol.
And 1500 dollars is exactly why dealerships wont cut a key. Thats why as soon as u buy a bike. U cut the dealership out of it. I have never taken one of my brandnew bike in for “first service” Total joke folks. I am a Motorcycle Mechanic by trade. And they will rip u off at every opportunity they get. Words of advice. If u dont like spending shit tons of money on pointless shit. Then when u buy a bike. Know how to do everything to it yourself. Motorcycle ownership can be so cheap if u just know your shit. And this is not directed at creator of video. This statement is for everyone and anyone out there
Yes this is the sad truth these days. The more familiar you are with your own bike and the more work / maintenance you can do to it at home the better!
I came here in ny bought a 2020 mt09 bnew after 1 yr and 3 mnths it got stolen on june 1st 2022. So now im browsing and made a deal of a 2004 r1 cherry with a very good deal.
You can’t compare an 09 r6 to an 06 r1.... the 06 r1 looks way better then the 06 r6 and 09 r1 looks way way better then the 09 r6. Especially with the cross plain.
I feel like if you dont go to the limit on an r1 you dont have balls. I spent good money on my bike I'm not going to waste it. That was 5 years ago. I feel like I've almost mastered it but you never truly will master anything that beastly. Getting too confident is what gets you killed. Cheers
I agree. I bought the R1 for one purpose, speed. I definitely push the bike hard as well but what I find is it’s the roads where I live that are the limiting factor. The bike wants more but our roads are sh*t. Constantly hitting dips, pot holes, frost heaves, or gravel that make the bike unstable or loose traction. Our long winter season causes heavy damage to the roads every year. Have you ever lost traction and started to spin going over 200kms/hr? I have. Or hitting a pot hole giving you such bad speed wobble your inner thighs get bruised from slapping the tank. Definitely makes a guy error on the cautious side when on the streets anyway.
@@JT2JZ those are valid points and that sucks. That's the one draw back of living far north. Along with rust issues on vehicles. I live in a major city in the midwest with plenty of highways and bikes that run frequently. And our main police force now has a no chase policy. So I have the freedom to ride how I like. I lose traction all the time in 1st when getting on it but thankfully never lost total control because good throttle control is key for older bikes. No rider aides to save us. Also being lowered 1.5 inches makes it more stable and being a fat ass 190 pounds helps too. I've even ran over a deer or some large roadkill "it was at night" going 80 and literally ramped whatever it was but got lucky didn't wobble or lose it. Many close calls some too close. Should have scared me a little bit but that fear has long passed seeing how I haven't went down... yet and been riding it for so long i consider myself fortunate I live where I do. Cheers
I’m jealous. We only have a couple of main roads in our small town so not a lot of selection. The police force here would rather chase you down, endangering everyone else and potentially cause a major accident just to issue a minor ticket. Hopefully you have a good riding season. Stay safe out there brotha
@@JT2JZ man that blows. I would hope you have some sort of track or spot to have fun on or what's the point imo. And yes the police shouldn't chase bikes and endanger public for what?! Ego? A 200$ speeding ticket? Stupid no matter how you put it. And yes you as well. These bikes and the 5 valve genesis motor are gems and I will keep it for the rest of my life. 37k miles (59k km) and no valve adjustment needed at 28k interval. Ride safe but have fun when you can amigo. Lifes too short not to. Like I told my folks when I got the thing. I'm not afraid of dying I'm afraid of not living. Cheers
Damn that key information was very depressing, I didn’t know how bad my situation was , worst part is this one black key I got came from the dealership, was sold the bike never even knowing about a “red” key , I thought “one key is fine I can always get a copy made” 🤦♂️
Yes it’s extremely inconvenient and expensive. Ive heard rumour that you may get lucky these days and find an aftermarket company to clone the black key. It’s worth looking into anyway!
I’ve always wanted to try a panigale V4! They are torque monsters from what I hear. Is there anything you don’t like about it? Are all the electronic rider assists perfect?
@@JT2JZ Is just a dream bike I always wanted it everything is perfect and smooth you have ABS control Traction Control Slide Control Wheelie Control Power Launch Quick Shift up/down engine Brake Control and Electronic Suspension has soo many features and what I like the most the esthetics of it I would not change it for any other bike I got it on full black and is gorgeous
I'll be starting the riding courses soon ; I'm planning to buy a ninja 300 or the R3 for 1 - 2 years ; But that R6 is on my list for the near future after that
That’s what I did too! Went with the R3 and absolutely loved it for 2.5 years, just got an R6 and it’s hard going back to the little R3. But the R3 was a great leaner bike that you can push to its limit and if you make a mistake it’ll be pretty forgiving (R6 is not so forgiving)
OK, I'll let you in on a secret. The reason the R6 is more expensive at times than the R1 is because the R6 has been discontinued. You failed to mention that in among other things.
R1 33 miles per gallon. R6 50 miles per gallon. Insurance is also more expensive with higher CC engines. Most corners at the track are perfect for 2nd gear on the r6 where the R1 is faster on the straight and the R6 is the best handling bike Yamaha makes as weight affects handling. That R6 doesnt have electronics which is what I like as u are forced to learn the physics of riding. R1 is too powerful and the electronics save most people from falling all the time and that prevents u from learning proper technique. I love my r6.
The r1 didn’t have any rider assist features until the newer Crossplane bikes like my new 2012. I do agree though the raw feeling older bikes are a blast to ride!
Hello, I’m a new rider, my dad recently passed away and he left his r1 but I’ve never rode a motorcycle before and I’m pretty scared to even touch the bike, is there any tips you could give to me as a new rider or advice when learning
Sorry to hear about the bad news. As long as you have respect for the bike and start off slow to get the feel for the bike you should be ok. My first bike was a 2004 cbr1000rr. It took me almost a full season of just casually riding before I was 100% comfortable on it. If you ride with other people make sure they don’t push you out of your comfort zone. Some people can push you past your skill level and that’s when an accident will usually happen for a new rider. At the end of the day make sure you enjoy the ride and have fun 🤘
When you were talking about the r6 you said "almost perfect sound" I'm looking super intensly for the perfect deep sound with the just perfect tune, any recommendations?
For a good sounding r6 the mid pipe / cat delete is a must. I did the M4 mid pipe but other brands would be very similar. As far as the rear slip ons go they all have slightly different exhaust notes. My favourite sounding slip ons would be the M4, yoshimura, or two brothers. A bigger front header pipe to give your bike a true full exhaust would give the deepest sound possible. Only down side is headers are pretty expensive!
@@JT2JZ Superbike racer has a full akroprvic exhaust on his colorful r6 and honestly it sounds so amazing like when he let's go of the throttle and then gives it gas you have the rumble and gives me such satisfaction but it's not deep like one if the comments even said it sounds like a house fly, I'm on a hunt to find "the motorcycle sound" the same sound I remember as a kid, the same sound I hear when bikes are flying by a few blocks away from me, I'm still looking but you definitely helped, thankyou. I also don't know why i never thought to cat delete my bike it never even came to me but would forsure make it sound better
Akrapovic is a great brand as well. Honestly most of todays modern exhaust systems perform great. It just comes down to personal preference with small sound differences. In your case if you already have a slip on I would say start with the mid pipe and you might be surprised at how big of a difference just that will make. My only other advice would be don’t use a straight pipe style rear slip on. They sound really raspy and you end up loosing power. As long as you have some kind of small slip on muffler you should be good to go after the mid pipe install 🤘
@@JT2JZ 2011 R1. After 1999 only cars have chip keys in America. I could be wrong, but I think only the new keyless Honda CBR 1000 is the only chip bike in America.
Dude..... 2009 R6 seat height is 1.5cm taller. Not waaaaaaay taller. Get ur suspension set up properly. You probably have a 180/55 rear tire on the R6 and a 190/50 on the R1. If ur girlfriend can barely touch the ground on the R6....then fix it for her.... 2006 R1 wheelbase is 3.5cm longer. The R6 is actually 5lbs heavier dry weight. There is not much difference in the dimensions. These bikes are built to race. Not for joy riding around town. You dont buy a race horse to take on trail rides. You dont buy a McLaren Spider to joy ride around town on Sunday. You buy them to take to a race track and race. Go as fast as you can full throttle. It drives me crazy when I hear people say they buy these bikes and just ride them as they got it. Then make comments or worse, comparisons. The biggest difference in these two bikes is horse power. R6 factory spec is 135 hp. R1 is 180 hp. If you want to joy ride around town, buy a frigin Vespa.
I was comparing the seat width not height. R6 seat is way wider making it FEEL taller than it actually is. You are correct when it comes to weight. These bikes are surprisingly very similar on the scale. As far as using these bikes to cruise on the street I’m not lucky enough to have any race tracks in my area so the street is all we have. We enjoy spirited riding on the street every time we get on these bikes and that will never change.
I love my rsexxy 06 blue and 09 raven black compare to my murdered out 07 r1... I sold my 07 r1 dont really like the looks but kept my 06 and 09 rsexxy...its called rsexxy for a reason... now they are discontinued and I had it sent to the Philippines...I will always keep my r6 I might just get the 2021 for that matter. Good comparison.. Ride safe bro.
R6 was discontinued in 2020, unless you want to pay $18-20k for the beefed up track only version. I’m sure the wait list is crazy long on those, as they are built to order. Definitely hang on to your R6, they’re only going to be more expensive as time goes on.
@@JT2JZ Yep me too im a sexxy fan... do not know why they stop the sexxy... but the r7 sucks i tried my friends but a little to tame for me at the track..
In my opinion the 600cc may feel underpowered for you. As long as you have some bike experience I would recommend stepping up to maybe a gsxr750 or R1.
@@JT2JZ I completely understand, and I know you’re right. Against any better judgment though, I think I’m still going to get an R6, give it a try and feel the power it has. Hoping it isn’t as bad as I think, lol. If so, it’ll go out to someone else. Thank you for taking time to reply to my question, subscribed!
Thanks for the support. I’m sure you will still have a great time riding an R6. On the plus side the R6 is the most popular size and has the best resale value so it should be easy to resell if it comes to that.
Bro I just come across your video like right now for the first time and I will tell you right now if you were to ask me that face-to-face especially with the two that I'm looking at right now do you have floored me right now just what the two you got on my God so sick bro so sick
Okay now that we got the introduction out of the way brother off I'll give you my opinion honestly right now after hopefully next year I'll buy my house I'm actually looking into getting the R6 Raven I don't know something about that black and gold Manatee it really just it attracts me and please please please understand I'm not taking away from that are one but just something about that black and gold Raven the first time I ever seen it and just the colors just distracting me you know but also do like that R1 Raven that's completely blacked out as well so but honestly yeah I think I'm going to go R6 myself cuz I know the other ones bigger Blake you know performance blah blah blah blah blah but still for me yeah I think I would go R6 but in your case brother I just I'm sorry I couldn't I couldn't decide one way or the other
Similar in some ways but both of these bikes would likely feel underpowered in comparison. I would absolutely love to try a two stroke street bike though! Has always been a dream of mine
Ty. Already lived my life on bikes. Planning to selll my yzf r125 this summer. First I had TZR and then R125. Great bikes. R125 isn't slow. @@joshdean5867
Hey I wanted to ask a question. I am getting the same Yoshimura exhaust for my R6, and I have aftermarket headers too. Do I need a link pipe to join the slip on and headers?
On my bike the stock header and cated mid pipe were one piece. I had to cut the cat off the stock header and clamp on the new mid pipe when I did a cat delete. I guess it would depend on the length of your aftermarket header. If it isn’t that long after the accumulator section you will likely need an added mid pipe. I’m not 100% sure because I’m still running the stock header at the moment
No I lost my keys and without a red master key the dealer can not cut any spare keys for you. Only option at the time was full ignition replacement with a new red master key
Love how he says the headlights on the r6 are better then turns them both on and the says the lights on the r1 are better make up your mindddddd brotherrrrrrr
Great video but... in a close track R6 makes better lap times due to short wheelbase and those 110hp only. This is what my friends say. But on the road... 110hp are not enough!!! R1's 180hp are way more fun and you can use only 110 if you like. So, would you buy an 110hp better for track or an 180hp 1:1 power to weigh ratio R1?? And yes, if you are not an expert rider just keep it calm with those 180hp. Don't use them all. Use only half... R1 will definitely keep your adrenaline in the red zone always!! R6... just for the first month when you learn it...
I’ve always been a horse power junky so for me the R1 is the obvious choice. I will admit the R6 does handle better but on the street I find myself using the raw power more than I would use the handling characteristics.
@@JT2JZ since last year I thought my Evo and my XKR and my Vette were fast. Nope... They are not fast enough now cz of my R1. Could be any litre bike... And yes.... I'm on Time Attack races with cars but on bike I'm really scared and hats off to all those fast bikers I watch...
Now this is a review, man. People who actually rode the bike full time, know everything about it. The spare key info was very important to me, and I appreciate that tip. Thanks a lot, man!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help!
Cheers.
what you talked about the seat profile on the R6 is very true and often not mentioned in reviews. it does make the bike feel higher than it really is.
I 100% agree. It’s one of the first things you notice getting on the R6 and yet no one ever says anything about it.
@@JT2JZ that's true, I've never heard anyone say it but that's exactly what it feels like, I like your video and nice collection dude, that's quite a line up.
The looks alone keep me on the R6... Sickest bike out there for sure!
I would have to agree. Something about the front headlight design is just timeless. I could stare at it for hours!
This has been such an important video for me. I have been riding a 250cc for almost 2 years now and am ready to upgrade. These are two of my favorite options so this is a useful comparison. Thanks for the video.
I’m glad I could help out! Thanks for the support.
Get a 600 but don't pay too much
I'm siding with Bruce on this one. Snag up a 600. The jump you will have from a 600 to a 1000 is about the same as a 250 to 600. My R6 was awesome, but it does get a little old because it was to easy to ride. Meaning, it was no work to go fast and hold corners. Youll have way more power in the road than you'll need. You'll hang with any sports car out there.
I agree as well. If you were happy riding the 250 for two years a 600 will be a lot of bike from what you are used to! Better to error on the safe side my friend.
It is more fun to ride a small bike fast, than a big bike slow.
The R6 looks like a weapon. The power of the R1 is appealing but the way the R6 creeps on the power when you start getting the revs high is addicting
Well said. I definitely agree!
"you dont think 40-50 pounds is a lot" me sitting here watching the video as a 6'6 320 pound guy, damn i gotta go on a diet lmao
Every pound counts! Haha
@@JT2JZ if i got the R1 it would be as fast as an r6 with my weight lmao
Ya it doesn’t take much to change the power to weight ratio on such a small bike. You probably wouldn’t notice as much on a heavier cruiser style bike or Harley with more low end torque.
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@@kadeaugsburger6764 you built for a busa bro
One of the best Bike comparison videos I've ever seen well done, awesome wheelies 😂
R1 Has ALWAYS been king! R6s are great but R1 is something else!! Legends
Can’t beat that raw power!
r6 sounds way cooler, and in a circuit the r6 wins anyday
R6 is shorter and does handle better in the corners
Great job explaining these bikes in a real world comparison. It's awesome to hear that from people who actually spend time riding the bikes. Ride safe!!
Thanks man. I appreciate the feed back.
Hey Matt, I suggest the r7 as a step to either. Sounds weird going for a 700cc over a 600cc but it's a much more relaxed ride however if you are experienced and capable enough then the r6 is an amazing and fun ride. Ride safe bud
gotta appreciate the colour scheme on that r6 fr!
Ya the black and gold is definitely one of my favourite! I’m trying to find a cross plane R1 In that colour for next season.
I have an 02 R1 with a D&D slip on exhaust, power Comander, slipper clutch, lowering kit, I bought it 2nd hand so I don't remember all the specific upgrades but it is insanely fast. My buddy has an 03 R6 same type of upgrades we've swapped bikes on rides and in city riding the R6 is better to ride because the R1 just wants to go. In first gear with no throttle the R1 idles at about 25mph the R6 dosen't really have any power till you get past 4000rpms. On the highway the R1 is king it has insane tourqe and speed at low RPMS you don't have to hammer on the R1 the power is there through out the rpm range. Handling I haven't noticed that big of a difference in handling maybe because my suspension isn't stock. The only problem I had with my R1 is cross winds on the highway I was getting blown all over the road, but the rear tire was at 25psi I put at 35psi no more floating in the crosswinds. My only complaint with both the R6 and R1 is they are not comfortable on long rides. My Ninja 500r way more comfortable on long rides and my ZX6R (636) is extremely comfortable and I think it's faster then the R6. The R1 has low beams on both sides and highbeams on both sides. As far as ignition replacement you can get an ignition, Gas tank lock and seat lock on Ebay for under $60 for the R6 or the R1. My R1 came with a plain steel key. I bought a 3pack of blank yamaha keys red, blue, and black on Amazon for like $20 and had HomeDepot cut me a spare.
Doesn’t lowering kit put out bikes handling just curious
I got a 2008 R1, still to this day it scares the shit out of me😨💪💪
That’s a good year for the R1! Last year of the flatplane.
I agree. I have to tell myself not to do something stupid every time I get on this bad boy.
@@JT2JZ yes I deed, I got over 2500 bucks on aftermarket accessories, the bike likes the attention it gets. Next is going to be a 300 Fat tire Kit with Hellian Chrome wheels 👌
That will definitely be unique and stand out from the crowd 🤘
Great detailed comparison. You make a great case for each bike. Beautiful examples- love the murdered out look.
Thanks for the kind words. Mostly black is definitely my favourite colour scheme as well!
But that race with the Supra at the end I thought I heard that Stu Stu Stu in that first clip there 😂🤯🤯
Awesome video man. Very well put together and helped me make my decision a lot better. Wishing you the best!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help!
I drive the Fazer 1000 (2002) first edition an Amazing very comfortable, very fast bike.0-100km/t 3.5 sek. Max.Enoughf for me 66year old Guy.
Thank you for one of the Best video i have seen.
Drive carefully, you got only 1 life❤👋
Frank Larsen Denmark
Thank you for the kind words 🙏
The R6 might feel lighter because of the shorter wheel base and your not leaning over it.as much as the R1, but still the R1 is pound for pound king
Got a 13 R1, by far my fav generation R1.
Agreed. It’s been my favourite bike to date as well
R1 every time dude. 'Black' keys can be cloned now at key cutting stores. No major drama if you lose the red one anymore 👍
Agreed man. My first bike was a litre bike ( 2004 cbr1000rr ). For my own personal bike I would never own anything smaller. I’m a power junky at the end of the day 🤘.
Glad to hear other companies are starting to clone keys. Now If only the dealerships would get on board!
Can you expand on that? i only have 1 black key left!
Yeah I had my R1 lowered to be able to flat foot her comfortably...Cool video...We need more uploads, BrO! 🤘
What kit did you get to lower your R1? I should look into that for my GF and her R6. She is only 5’4.
More videos on the way! Thanks for the support man.
You're a legend, dude.
Please Post more such videos
Thanks man! I had some fun making this vid.
He really meant it when he said head go head
I wish I saw this sooner. Owned a 6 for years and thinking of upgrading. Slated to buy a 1 used in ~2 weeks. This was very helpful, thank you!! Mind if I PM you next week with any last minute questions I may have?
Thanks for the kind words. Ya feel free to message me here any time.
@@JT2JZ thanks so much man, will do! Liked and subscribed, this was a great video. Saved me hours of forum research lol. Stay well!
I appreciate it 🙏. If I can get more activity on my channel I will be dropping a lot more content. Feel free to leave any video ideas here as well.
@@JT2JZ If you build it, they will come. That's what I've learned from some people I've encountered who create content on TH-cam.
@@JT2JZ So I didn't realize YT didn't offer any sort of DM functionality...figured it would. Is there another platform we can leverage to toss ideas around?
I’m so glad i found your channel man
I’m soon planning on getting a 08 up r6
This video was od informative
Thanks boss. I’m glad you got some value from it.
I have the same generation R1 04/06 and a 16 R6 and with proper setup this gen R1 can turn in like no other to the point my R1 out turns my R6 but I have yet to set up the R6 and am fairly certain this will change. That said a well set up R1 with Bridgestones latest DOT race rubber is unbelievable!!!! Something about the Bridgestone front it turns in like no other.
Ya for how old these bikes are now it’s pretty crazy how well they perform still! Very well built bikes for the price.
@@JT2JZ so true and my 2016 R6 is the same bike as this 09. It’s been a great run for the R6.
I meant to say it’s the same bike as your 09 R6.
Ya they found a platform that simply works and they stuck with it for a long time!
This video is so nice..from Romania
More like this
Thanks you 🙏. Subscribe for more videos. If my channel gets more traffic I will be making a lot more content.
Hi Jt2jz, u made such a simple n informative video, I think u should create a separate channel for Motorbike content.
Such on point info, which is hard to find. loved it. U will have great success.......... If u keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words and support. When summer comes I will definitely be making more bike / riding videos. Maybe some stunting / tips and tricks along the way.
I’m relatively new to TH-cam still but learning as I go. More bike content is a guarantee though. These videos are getting the most viewers.
Excellent comparison and review! Subscribed good sir!
Thanks for the support! More video’s coming soon. Currently working on comparing my Crossplane R1 to my aprilia RSV4
@JT2JZ looking forward to that one as well! I currently have a gen 1 hayabusa and an 09 R1. Going to be doing a comparison on my channel of those as well :).
You are right about the Crossplane R1 though, it does have a goofy low end response compared to other sportbikes. I was just watching your cross plane vs flat plane vid a few mins ago.
God damn the ending with the Supra was clean
Thanks man. The supra will be for sale here soon if you know anyone looking
R6 yep ive had boath ive tought track for around 20 years now and id still pick the R6 everyday of the week
Bro keep going on
Nice review.. Love from Bangladesh
Thanks for the kind words.
I’m waiting to see if I can register my TH-cam account after I get 1000 subscriptions.
Get your friends to subscribe. It will give me more motivation to keep making content. I do have a lot of video ideas for the future!
Both bikes full of fluids are not 40-50lbs different in weight. Both bikes full of fluids are 5-10lbs difference.
This… is true
Friday = watch R1 videos
Saturday = watch more R1 videos
Sunday = Purchase an R1
Monday to Friday = watch more R1 videos
Sounds like a great schedule to me!
The R1 is literally a street legal MotoGP bike when you get them unrestricted. The R6 is the chilled out little brother that gets fist bumped by its older brothers friends lol
Very accurate haha
In my opinion, r6 all day perfect for the road, R1 track days for the power it has.
Both bikes are amazing and definitely have unique characteristics to offer.
I always enjoy the ride no matter what bike I’m on. The older I get the more bikes I want because I appreciate them all! It’s very inconvenient some days 😆
They look great together in black 🏁🏁
Thank you!
Black Is definitely my favourite.
20:25 the bang from the supra.. damn. imagine having those bangs on the bike 😂
The supra launch control is absolutely rowdy in person! Not many vehicles in this world that are louder to be honest.
i miss my 09 R6 so much :'( cant wait to get my full licence so i can get it or even upgrade to a 1000cc
Both bikes are a riot!
Cool video man and very helpful 👍🏼
I’m glad I could help
Great review I liked it. The only thing I dident like was comparing looks and such, I get comparing mechanical things and such to and extent. But if I was to compare and 1990’s bike to a newer 2020+ version… then… yea you get the point. I know their only 3 years apart BUT they did change the looks in between z just sayn!! Still really enjoyed the video thanks!!!
my 03 r6 was the bees knees. my 06 r1 saved my life in high speed turns
600 is great if you get it new. second hand you are buying a bike that has been thrashed by some other hoon and maybe asking for trouble. I love both bikes and that is why I have an FZ1 gen 2. No bow leggedness on the fizzy. Nothing but comfort and wanting to ride all day long.
Yes unfortunately most crotch rockets are cheap enough that younger guys buy and use them for racing / stunting. As the years go by it does get harder to find used bikes in good shape.
I love the FZ1 for how practical and comfortable they are! I am a little disappointed with the power output though. They detune the fz1 so much that my r6 is very similar power wise. If they had the same engine tune from a traditional R1 it would be the perfect bike!
I also heard that Yamaha is discontinuing the r6. They are not updating it to keep up with stricter emission regulations. They are only going to be selling it as a track use ( non street legal ) version now. I was pretty disappointed when I heard this!
I normally hear the R6 is more track oriented and the R1 is better on the street and less of a track weapon.
Awsome video Thank you
Very helpful,thank you👍
Glad I could help!
R1 looks way better...still today its a beauty. I love my red RN12
8:30 R1 better have better headlights with that kind of power power at night.
Much more power in the R1, the R6 screams more and you have to use the gears more, gets tiring after a while and you have to have more rpms to get the power. I have 2 R1s and 2 Honda Vfr 750/800 and prefer the riding style of the VFRs and better for cruising, but the power in the R1s are great.
Low end torque is very nice for the street
R1 just dominates all bikes. No argument.
I’ve owned both and I love both. But the r1 is just not compatible to anything on this planet!
Also, 600s are sought after especially the r6 because they stopped making it. Producing the pile of shite R7 now 🤮
I agree. The r1 has been my favourite bike that I have owned.
Nothing will ever replace the R6.. Definitely not that joke of an R7
I just saw a comment on another video this dude said
"A girl i matched on tinder asked if i ride an r6 or r1. I said r 6 and she unmatched me"
😂😂😂😂
That’s actually hilarious! Straight up savage.
Get the 1 unless u don’t need top end speed
Ya the R1 really starts to pull hard on the r6 above 100kms/hr
You Have the Badass bike dude. 💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you 🙏
Awesome video my friend. I'm currently looking to buy an R1. Blessings from UK
Thanks bro.
I’m about to drop a new video soon comparing my old 2006 R1 to my new 2012 crossplane engine R1. Maybe it can give you even more insight with the different R1 generations.
Cheers.
@@JT2JZ the big bang 09 is my dream bike, looks so nice.
But i want to start with the 05 as i dont want to spend too much on a bike.
But yes bro, I'll be looking forward to see that comparisson.
I will say for a first bike the older flate plane engines seem to be a little more reliable.
I’ve never had to work on any of my older bikes as much as I have already with my new crossplane. I love my new bike still but
current it’s a love hate relationship 😆
Any differences in terms of passenger comfort? I know we're talking about sport bikes, but my gf rides a lot with me so I'm hesitating between the two, R6 vs R1 Crossplane.
Thanks and great vids btw!
Seat comfort for the passenger is very similar between the two bikes.
As the driver I enjoy doubling on the r1 more. The seat height is lower and longer wheel base makes it feel more stable with two people. The low end torque is also nice for the extra body weight
Buy an R6. You'll never get to use all those power in the R1 most of the time. If your country is traffic free playground, then R1 is maybe what you should buy. R6 is more than fast enough for the road and is more fun in the twisties.
For a daily driver I actually enjoy the r1 more. It has way more usable torque in the low rpm range where you spend most of your time casually cruising around.
For example hit a yellow light, no need to down shift. Just roll into throttle no matter what gear you are in. Very street friendly for me.
@@JT2JZ true. R6 is for trigger happy type of a person I guess (like me unfortunately). Changing gear is too addicting for me. I definitely don't deserve the R1 because of that lol.
And 1500 dollars is exactly why dealerships wont cut a key. Thats why as soon as u buy a bike. U cut the dealership out of it. I have never taken one of my brandnew bike in for “first service” Total joke folks. I am a Motorcycle Mechanic by trade. And they will rip u off at every opportunity they get. Words of advice. If u dont like spending shit tons of money on pointless shit. Then when u buy a bike. Know how to do everything to it yourself. Motorcycle ownership can be so cheap if u just know your shit. And this is not directed at creator of video. This statement is for everyone and anyone out there
Yes this is the sad truth these days. The more familiar you are with your own bike and the more work / maintenance you can do to it at home the better!
I came here in ny bought a 2020 mt09 bnew after 1 yr and 3 mnths it got stolen on june 1st 2022. So now im browsing and made a deal of a 2004 r1 cherry with a very good deal.
Sorry about your bad luck. I’ve had bikes stolen and I know how much it sucks.
You will enjoy your r1 though. 2004 is a good year
Both Vicious
Great Video!! Motorcycles are modern funtastic horseees!! Geeeeeed eeeee up!!🤩🇺🇸👍
Agreed!
I've never cared about 600's . Use to own a 750. Wished I would have bought bigger instead.
The 750 is a good all around bike but I always find myself guilty of wanting more power as well.
You can’t compare an 09 r6 to an 06 r1.... the 06 r1 looks way better then the 06 r6 and 09 r1 looks way way better then the 09 r6. Especially with the cross plain.
I’m trying to find a cross plane for this season to make another video. They are pretty hard to find in my area though. Still searching.
I love the R1 but u can use the power more on the R6
It’s definitely fun pushing the R6 to its limits and not having to worry about loosing traction as much. It puts the power to the ground very well
Hey bud thx for the side by side comparison. I have an 06 R1 as well and would love to know which high beam bulbs your running.
Thx in advance.
I usually have good luck with cheaper amazon bulbs
BEST LED Lights For Yamaha R1 & R6! AFFORDABLE!
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I feel like if you dont go to the limit on an r1 you dont have balls. I spent good money on my bike I'm not going to waste it. That was 5 years ago. I feel like I've almost mastered it but you never truly will master anything that beastly. Getting too confident is what gets you killed. Cheers
I agree. I bought the R1 for one purpose, speed. I definitely push the bike hard as well but what I find is it’s the roads where I live that are the limiting factor. The bike wants more but our roads are sh*t. Constantly hitting dips, pot holes, frost heaves, or gravel that make the bike unstable or loose traction. Our long winter season causes heavy damage to the roads every year.
Have you ever lost traction and started to spin going over 200kms/hr? I have. Or hitting a pot hole giving you such bad speed wobble your inner thighs get bruised from slapping the tank.
Definitely makes a guy error on the cautious side when on the streets anyway.
@@JT2JZ those are valid points and that sucks. That's the one draw back of living far north. Along with rust issues on vehicles. I live in a major city in the midwest with plenty of highways and bikes that run frequently. And our main police force now has a no chase policy. So I have the freedom to ride how I like. I lose traction all the time in 1st when getting on it but thankfully never lost total control because good throttle control is key for older bikes. No rider aides to save us. Also being lowered 1.5 inches makes it more stable and being a fat ass 190 pounds helps too. I've even ran over a deer or some large roadkill "it was at night" going 80 and literally ramped whatever it was but got lucky didn't wobble or lose it. Many close calls some too close. Should have scared me a little bit but that fear has long passed seeing how I haven't went down... yet and been riding it for so long
i consider myself fortunate I live where I do. Cheers
I’m jealous. We only have a couple of main roads in our small town so not a lot of selection. The police force here would rather chase you down, endangering everyone else and potentially cause a major accident just to issue a minor ticket.
Hopefully you have a good riding season. Stay safe out there brotha
@@JT2JZ man that blows. I would hope you have some sort of track or spot to have fun on or what's the point imo. And yes the police shouldn't chase bikes and endanger public for what?! Ego? A 200$ speeding ticket? Stupid no matter how you put it. And yes you as well. These bikes and the 5 valve genesis motor are gems and I will keep it for the rest of my life. 37k miles (59k km) and no valve adjustment needed at 28k interval. Ride safe but have fun when you can amigo. Lifes too short not to. Like I told my folks when I got the thing. I'm not afraid of dying I'm afraid of not living. Cheers
Couldn’t have said it better my self 👌
Damn that key information was very depressing, I didn’t know how bad my situation was , worst part is this one black key I got came from the dealership, was sold the bike never even knowing about a “red” key , I thought “one key is fine I can always get a copy made” 🤦♂️
Yes it’s extremely inconvenient and expensive. Ive heard rumour that you may get lucky these days and find an aftermarket company to clone the black key. It’s worth looking into anyway!
^Ive seen the same 2 comments before its a scam.
@@nightnday6675 great job 👏
I have a panigale V4 and I am happy with her
I’ve always wanted to try a panigale V4! They are torque monsters from what I hear. Is there anything you don’t like about it? Are all the electronic rider assists perfect?
@@JT2JZ Is just a dream bike I always wanted it everything is perfect and smooth you have ABS control Traction Control Slide Control Wheelie Control Power Launch Quick Shift up/down engine Brake Control and Electronic Suspension has soo many features and what I like the most the esthetics of it I would not change it for any other bike I got it on full black and is gorgeous
That sounds amazing. Hopefully one day I will own one as well!
I'll be starting the riding courses soon ; I'm planning to buy a ninja 300 or the R3 for 1 - 2 years ; But that R6 is on my list for the near future after that
Sounds like a perfect plan my friend.
Enjoy the journey! Any time spent on two wheels is always worth it no matter what bike you are on.
That’s what I did too! Went with the R3 and absolutely loved it for 2.5 years, just got an R6 and it’s hard going back to the little R3. But the R3 was a great leaner bike that you can push to its limit and if you make a mistake it’ll be pretty forgiving (R6 is not so forgiving)
Very true!
OK, I'll let you in on a secret. The reason the R6 is more expensive at times than the R1 is because the R6 has been discontinued. You failed to mention that in among other things.
R1 is now discontinued as well
r6 is the sickest looking bike to me, after that my favorite looking bike is cbr600rr
The older cbr600rr and the R6 had a pretty similar look. That’s probably why I loved my old 2006 cbr1000rr so much. Great looking bikes as well
R6…no doubt..unless you weight over 200lbs..or 2013 cross plane R1.
Good review.👍
Thanks. Hopefully you got some value out of it.
Color of bikes is awesome
R1 33 miles per gallon. R6 50 miles per gallon. Insurance is also more expensive with higher CC engines. Most corners at the track are perfect for 2nd gear on the r6 where the R1 is faster on the straight and the R6 is the best handling bike Yamaha makes as weight affects handling. That R6 doesnt have electronics which is what I like as u are forced to learn the physics of riding. R1 is too powerful and the electronics save most people from falling all the time and that prevents u from learning proper technique. I love my r6.
The r1 didn’t have any rider assist features until the newer Crossplane bikes like my new 2012.
I do agree though the raw feeling older bikes are a blast to ride!
I was about to say uhhhh alot of the r1’s have no rider assist. But ok.
Thanks for the insights........R6 it is then
Hello, I’m a new rider, my dad recently passed away and he left his r1 but I’ve never rode a motorcycle before and I’m pretty scared to even touch the bike, is there any tips you could give to me as a new rider or advice when learning
Sorry to hear about the bad news. As long as you have respect for the bike and start off slow to get the feel for the bike you should be ok. My first bike was a 2004 cbr1000rr. It took me almost a full season of just casually riding before I was 100% comfortable on it.
If you ride with other people make sure they don’t push you out of your comfort zone. Some people can push you past your skill level and that’s when an accident will usually happen for a new rider.
At the end of the day make sure you enjoy the ride and have fun 🤘
Jt2jz great damn advice homie
@D Moo-lah Thanks man! Just trying to help out another fellow biker.
@Boosted SC Aye bro are you still alive?
20:24 : that was so sick especially with the supra
Thanks man! If you like supras check out some of my older videos.
@@JT2JZ will do!
It runs 10s in the 1/4 mile.
Trying to get a 9s pass hopfully this upcoming season!
An R1 will be my next bike but I’ll be keeping my R6 as well!
Best of both worlds. I like it!
When you were talking about the r6 you said "almost perfect sound" I'm looking super intensly for the perfect deep sound with the just perfect tune, any recommendations?
For a good sounding r6 the mid pipe / cat delete is a must. I did the M4 mid pipe but other brands would be very similar. As far as the rear slip ons go they all have slightly different exhaust notes. My favourite sounding slip ons would be the M4, yoshimura, or two brothers.
A bigger front header pipe to give your bike a true full exhaust would give the deepest sound possible. Only down side is headers are pretty expensive!
@@JT2JZ Superbike racer has a full akroprvic exhaust on his colorful r6 and honestly it sounds so amazing like when he let's go of the throttle and then gives it gas you have the rumble and gives me such satisfaction but it's not deep like one if the comments even said it sounds like a house fly, I'm on a hunt to find "the motorcycle sound" the same sound I remember as a kid, the same sound I hear when bikes are flying by a few blocks away from me, I'm still looking but you definitely helped, thankyou. I also don't know why i never thought to cat delete my bike it never even came to me but would forsure make it sound better
Akrapovic is a great brand as well. Honestly most of todays modern exhaust systems perform great. It just comes down to personal preference with small sound differences.
In your case if you already have a slip on I would say start with the mid pipe and you might be surprised at how big of a difference just that will make.
My only other advice would be don’t use a straight pipe style rear slip on. They sound really raspy and you end up loosing power. As long as you have some kind of small slip on muffler you should be good to go after the mid pipe install 🤘
try leovince sbk evo 2
I got all my keys cut by a local locksmith
Just out of curiosity what year of bike? Don’t you need a chip key to get the engine to start?
@@JT2JZ 2011 R1. After 1999 only cars have chip keys in America. I could be wrong, but I think only the new keyless Honda CBR 1000 is the only chip bike in America.
Call me crazy but I actually like the sound of the R6 better in this video.
Honestly I love it as well. It’s so rev happy and angry up top!
Dude..... 2009 R6 seat height is 1.5cm taller. Not waaaaaaay taller. Get ur suspension set up properly. You probably have a 180/55 rear tire on the R6 and a 190/50 on the R1. If ur girlfriend can barely touch the ground on the R6....then fix it for her.... 2006 R1 wheelbase is 3.5cm longer. The R6 is actually 5lbs heavier dry weight. There is not much difference in the dimensions. These bikes are built to race. Not for joy riding around town. You dont buy a race horse to take on trail rides. You dont buy a McLaren Spider to joy ride around town on Sunday. You buy them to take to a race track and race. Go as fast as you can full throttle. It drives me crazy when I hear people say they buy these bikes and just ride them as they got it. Then make comments or worse, comparisons. The biggest difference in these two bikes is horse power. R6 factory spec is 135 hp. R1 is 180 hp. If you want to joy ride around town, buy a frigin Vespa.
I was comparing the seat width not height. R6 seat is way wider making it FEEL taller than it actually is. You are correct when it comes to weight. These bikes are surprisingly very similar on the scale.
As far as using these bikes to cruise on the street I’m not lucky enough to have any race tracks in my area so the street is all we have. We enjoy spirited riding on the street every time we get on these bikes and that will never change.
The R1 is good on height way ,but R6 is good inside city
Can't imagine how fast the Supra is!!!!
It’s pretty similar to the R1 from a roll. Very fun car for sure!
I love my rsexxy 06 blue and 09 raven black compare to my murdered out 07 r1... I sold my 07 r1 dont really like the looks but kept my 06 and 09 rsexxy...its called rsexxy for a reason... now they are discontinued and I had it sent to the Philippines...I will always keep my r6 I might just get the 2021 for that matter.
Good comparison..
Ride safe bro.
That r6 will be a collector’s bike one day. Definitely hang onto it!
Thanks for the support bro.
Cheers!
@@JT2JZ
Yess sir
R6 was discontinued in 2020, unless you want to pay $18-20k for the beefed up track only version. I’m sure the wait list is crazy long on those, as they are built to order. Definitely hang on to your R6, they’re only going to be more expensive as time goes on.
I always thought the R6 was Yamahas most popular size bike. Crazy to see them basically just give up on it. I’m very disappointed!
@@JT2JZ Yep me too im a sexxy fan... do not know why they stop the sexxy... but the r7 sucks i tried my friends but a little to tame for me at the track..
R1 street
R6 mountain runs and track.
Good advice for sure
Hey man. Question. I’m a bigger guy. Pushing 300lb, 5’11, I’ve wanted an R6 for so long, would I lose all it’s power given the weight?
In my opinion the 600cc may feel underpowered for you. As long as you have some bike experience I would recommend stepping up to maybe a gsxr750 or R1.
@@JT2JZ I completely understand, and I know you’re right. Against any better judgment though, I think I’m still going to get an R6, give it a try and feel the power it has. Hoping it isn’t as bad as I think, lol. If so, it’ll go out to someone else. Thank you for taking time to reply to my question, subscribed!
Thanks for the support. I’m sure you will still have a great time riding an R6.
On the plus side the R6 is the most popular size and has the best resale value so it should be easy to resell if it comes to that.
Bro I just come across your video like right now for the first time and I will tell you right now if you were to ask me that face-to-face especially with the two that I'm looking at right now do you have floored me right now just what the two you got on my God so sick bro so sick
Thanks man.
Okay now that we got the introduction out of the way brother off I'll give you my opinion honestly right now after hopefully next year I'll buy my house I'm actually looking into getting the R6 Raven I don't know something about that black and gold Manatee it really just it attracts me and please please please understand I'm not taking away from that are one but just something about that black and gold Raven the first time I ever seen it and just the colors just distracting me you know but also do like that R1 Raven that's completely blacked out as well so but honestly yeah I think I'm going to go R6 myself cuz I know the other ones bigger Blake you know performance blah blah blah blah blah but still for me yeah I think I would go R6 but in your case brother I just I'm sorry I couldn't I couldn't decide one way or the other
@@earlsawyers5598 What the...??
We all love to tame a beast which is the r1. I feel like the r6 is way too aggressive than the r1 correct me of im wrong
Have the 98 r1 and the 04 r1.
Road the 99 r6 .
R1 is king
Nothing is bether
This probably won’t get a response but as a short male only 5’4 would I be able to atleast tip toe an r1???
Yes you would. My wife is roughly the same height and she still rides both of these bikes!
@@JT2JZ awesome thank you
Yamaha TZR is like R1 and YZF R125 is like R6. Agreed?
Similar in some ways but both of these bikes would likely feel underpowered in comparison.
I would absolutely love to try a two stroke street bike though! Has always been a dream of mine
Both are super slow 125 learner bikes .
Ty. Already lived my life on bikes. Planning to selll my yzf r125 this summer. First I had TZR and then R125. Great bikes. R125 isn't slow. @@joshdean5867
Hey I wanted to ask a question. I am getting the same Yoshimura exhaust for my R6, and I have aftermarket headers too. Do I need a link pipe to join the slip on and headers?
On my bike the stock header and cated mid pipe were one piece. I had to cut the cat off the stock header and clamp on the new mid pipe when I did a cat delete.
I guess it would depend on the length of your aftermarket header. If it isn’t that long after the accumulator section you will likely need an added mid pipe.
I’m not 100% sure because I’m still running the stock header at the moment
you mean to say the dealer took your Black key and wouldn't give you back your property = WTF???
No I lost my keys and without a red master key the dealer can not cut any spare keys for you. Only option at the time was full ignition replacement with a new red master key
Love how he says the headlights on the r6 are better then turns them both on and the says the lights on the r1 are better make up your mindddddd brotherrrrrrr
The lights on the r6 LOOK better in my opinion and the lights perform better on the R1.
Which is the louder on high revs
R6 has a higher pitched sound. R1 is a lower frequency. R1 is likely a bit louder but not by a lot.
What about the fuel consumption for both
R6 gets a lot better fuel mileage
comparing apples to apples. both bad ass
Agreed. Yamaha knows how to make a wicked motorcycle.
2 of the best bike in the world
Agreed
Need to gold those foot pegs bc those silvers just throw off the look
Ya some powder coating may be in my near future!
Great video but... in a close track R6 makes better lap times due to short wheelbase and those 110hp only. This is what my friends say. But on the road... 110hp are not enough!!! R1's 180hp are way more fun and you can use only 110 if you like. So, would you buy an 110hp better for track or an 180hp 1:1 power to weigh ratio R1?? And yes, if you are not an expert rider just keep it calm with those 180hp. Don't use them all. Use only half... R1 will definitely keep your adrenaline in the red zone always!! R6... just for the first month when you learn it...
I’ve always been a horse power junky so for me the R1 is the obvious choice. I will admit the R6 does handle better but on the street I find myself using the raw power more than I would use the handling characteristics.
@@JT2JZ since last year I thought my Evo and my XKR and my Vette were fast. Nope... They are not fast enough now cz of my R1. Could be any litre bike... And yes.... I'm on Time Attack races with cars but on bike I'm really scared and hats off to all those fast bikers I watch...
hey man can you do a comparison between the R6 and the R1 2012 that you recently bought please
Thanks for the video idea. I’ll see what I can do!
@@JT2JZ Thank you for all the content, we love black and we love Yamaha
No worries. Thanks for the support!
You and me both 🤘