Now this is a review, man. People who actually rode the bike full time, know everything about it. The spare key info was very important to me, and I appreciate that tip. Thanks a lot, man!
@@JT2JZ that's true, I've never heard anyone say it but that's exactly what it feels like, I like your video and nice collection dude, that's quite a line up.
I just got a 2004 R1 yesterday. Picked her up & rode her back home, 2 hour ride and loved it so much. First time riding a 1000cc bike. I’ve owned 250cc & 2x 600cc. I’ll never go back. 1000cc all the way baby!! Great video brother, greetings from Australia. Ride safe.
Hope sh'e's serving you well. Took me down memory lane... first bike we ever bought was a 04 R1 from a cop in Miami. This was back in 2009. I would buy that bike again. Crazy how fast time went by.
This has been such an important video for me. I have been riding a 250cc for almost 2 years now and am ready to upgrade. These are two of my favorite options so this is a useful comparison. Thanks for the video.
I'm siding with Bruce on this one. Snag up a 600. The jump you will have from a 600 to a 1000 is about the same as a 250 to 600. My R6 was awesome, but it does get a little old because it was to easy to ride. Meaning, it was no work to go fast and hold corners. Youll have way more power in the road than you'll need. You'll hang with any sports car out there.
I agree as well. If you were happy riding the 250 for two years a 600 will be a lot of bike from what you are used to! Better to error on the safe side my friend.
Great job explaining these bikes in a real world comparison. It's awesome to hear that from people who actually spend time riding the bikes. Ride safe!!
Hey Matt, I suggest the r7 as a step to either. Sounds weird going for a 700cc over a 600cc but it's a much more relaxed ride however if you are experienced and capable enough then the r6 is an amazing and fun ride. Ride safe bud
I have to show appreciation for mentioning your thoughts on people who are experienced riding dirt bikes, moving onto a liter bike. This is one of the only videos I've watched that discusses that perspective, and it helps me personally as well.
Honestly I think dirt biking is some of the best rider experience to have. Always riding on different loose surfaces and navigating over obstacles you really learn how a bike handles a lot quicker than on the street!
Ya it doesn’t take much to change the power to weight ratio on such a small bike. You probably wouldn’t notice as much on a heavier cruiser style bike or Harley with more low end torque.
@@JT2JZ yes I deed, I got over 2500 bucks on aftermarket accessories, the bike likes the attention it gets. Next is going to be a 300 Fat tire Kit with Hellian Chrome wheels 👌
I have an 02 R1 with a D&D slip on exhaust, power Comander, slipper clutch, lowering kit, I bought it 2nd hand so I don't remember all the specific upgrades but it is insanely fast. My buddy has an 03 R6 same type of upgrades we've swapped bikes on rides and in city riding the R6 is better to ride because the R1 just wants to go. In first gear with no throttle the R1 idles at about 25mph the R6 dosen't really have any power till you get past 4000rpms. On the highway the R1 is king it has insane tourqe and speed at low RPMS you don't have to hammer on the R1 the power is there through out the rpm range. Handling I haven't noticed that big of a difference in handling maybe because my suspension isn't stock. The only problem I had with my R1 is cross winds on the highway I was getting blown all over the road, but the rear tire was at 25psi I put at 35psi no more floating in the crosswinds. My only complaint with both the R6 and R1 is they are not comfortable on long rides. My Ninja 500r way more comfortable on long rides and my ZX6R (636) is extremely comfortable and I think it's faster then the R6. The R1 has low beams on both sides and highbeams on both sides. As far as ignition replacement you can get an ignition, Gas tank lock and seat lock on Ebay for under $60 for the R6 or the R1. My R1 came with a plain steel key. I bought a 3pack of blank yamaha keys red, blue, and black on Amazon for like $20 and had HomeDepot cut me a spare.
I drive the Fazer 1000 (2002) first edition an Amazing very comfortable, very fast bike.0-100km/t 3.5 sek. Max.Enoughf for me 66year old Guy. Thank you for one of the Best video i have seen. Drive carefully, you got only 1 life❤👋 Frank Larsen Denmark
Agreed man. My first bike was a litre bike ( 2004 cbr1000rr ). For my own personal bike I would never own anything smaller. I’m a power junky at the end of the day 🤘. Glad to hear other companies are starting to clone keys. Now If only the dealerships would get on board!
I wish I saw this sooner. Owned a 6 for years and thinking of upgrading. Slated to buy a 1 used in ~2 weeks. This was very helpful, thank you!! Mind if I PM you next week with any last minute questions I may have?
@@JT2JZ So I didn't realize YT didn't offer any sort of DM functionality...figured it would. Is there another platform we can leverage to toss ideas around?
I have the same generation R1 04/06 and a 16 R6 and with proper setup this gen R1 can turn in like no other to the point my R1 out turns my R6 but I have yet to set up the R6 and am fairly certain this will change. That said a well set up R1 with Bridgestones latest DOT race rubber is unbelievable!!!! Something about the Bridgestone front it turns in like no other.
What kit did you get to lower your R1? I should look into that for my GF and her R6. She is only 5’4. More videos on the way! Thanks for the support man.
Hi Jt2jz, u made such a simple n informative video, I think u should create a separate channel for Motorbike content. Such on point info, which is hard to find. loved it. U will have great success.......... If u keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words and support. When summer comes I will definitely be making more bike / riding videos. Maybe some stunting / tips and tricks along the way. I’m relatively new to TH-cam still but learning as I go. More bike content is a guarantee though. These videos are getting the most viewers.
This was really helpful. After seeing this is think im gonna try for something like gsxr750, a nice middle road. My biggest problem rn though is that as you said, litre bikes are somehow cheaper.
The market pricing is odd for sure. I think the 600s are just more popular for most people and that drives used prices up. A gsxr750 is a solid option for sure. I’ve rode them before and they are pretty much exactly what you would expect. You can usually find them relatively cheap as well so win / win.
Both bikes are amazing and definitely have unique characteristics to offer. I always enjoy the ride no matter what bike I’m on. The older I get the more bikes I want because I appreciate them all! It’s very inconvenient some days 😆
Thanks for the kind words. I’m waiting to see if I can register my TH-cam account after I get 1000 subscriptions. Get your friends to subscribe. It will give me more motivation to keep making content. I do have a lot of video ideas for the future!
Damn that key information was very depressing, I didn’t know how bad my situation was , worst part is this one black key I got came from the dealership, was sold the bike never even knowing about a “red” key , I thought “one key is fine I can always get a copy made” 🤦♂️
Yes it’s extremely inconvenient and expensive. Ive heard rumour that you may get lucky these days and find an aftermarket company to clone the black key. It’s worth looking into anyway!
Thanks you. That means a lot. I am familiar with his videos because he is very popular! He is better at video editing than me but I would like to think I have a lot of real world experience.
Great review I liked it. The only thing I dident like was comparing looks and such, I get comparing mechanical things and such to and extent. But if I was to compare and 1990’s bike to a newer 2020+ version… then… yea you get the point. I know their only 3 years apart BUT they did change the looks in between z just sayn!! Still really enjoyed the video thanks!!!
600 is great if you get it new. second hand you are buying a bike that has been thrashed by some other hoon and maybe asking for trouble. I love both bikes and that is why I have an FZ1 gen 2. No bow leggedness on the fizzy. Nothing but comfort and wanting to ride all day long.
Yes unfortunately most crotch rockets are cheap enough that younger guys buy and use them for racing / stunting. As the years go by it does get harder to find used bikes in good shape. I love the FZ1 for how practical and comfortable they are! I am a little disappointed with the power output though. They detune the fz1 so much that my r6 is very similar power wise. If they had the same engine tune from a traditional R1 it would be the perfect bike!
I also heard that Yamaha is discontinuing the r6. They are not updating it to keep up with stricter emission regulations. They are only going to be selling it as a track use ( non street legal ) version now. I was pretty disappointed when I heard this!
Thanks bro. I’m about to drop a new video soon comparing my old 2006 R1 to my new 2012 crossplane engine R1. Maybe it can give you even more insight with the different R1 generations. Cheers.
@@JT2JZ the big bang 09 is my dream bike, looks so nice. But i want to start with the 05 as i dont want to spend too much on a bike. But yes bro, I'll be looking forward to see that comparisson.
I will say for a first bike the older flate plane engines seem to be a little more reliable. I’ve never had to work on any of my older bikes as much as I have already with my new crossplane. I love my new bike still but current it’s a love hate relationship 😆
Hello, I’m a new rider, my dad recently passed away and he left his r1 but I’ve never rode a motorcycle before and I’m pretty scared to even touch the bike, is there any tips you could give to me as a new rider or advice when learning
Sorry to hear about the bad news. As long as you have respect for the bike and start off slow to get the feel for the bike you should be ok. My first bike was a 2004 cbr1000rr. It took me almost a full season of just casually riding before I was 100% comfortable on it. If you ride with other people make sure they don’t push you out of your comfort zone. Some people can push you past your skill level and that’s when an accident will usually happen for a new rider. At the end of the day make sure you enjoy the ride and have fun 🤘
Much more power in the R1, the R6 screams more and you have to use the gears more, gets tiring after a while and you have to have more rpms to get the power. I have 2 R1s and 2 Honda Vfr 750/800 and prefer the riding style of the VFRs and better for cruising, but the power in the R1s are great.
I'll be starting the riding courses soon ; I'm planning to buy a ninja 300 or the R3 for 1 - 2 years ; But that R6 is on my list for the near future after that
That’s what I did too! Went with the R3 and absolutely loved it for 2.5 years, just got an R6 and it’s hard going back to the little R3. But the R3 was a great leaner bike that you can push to its limit and if you make a mistake it’ll be pretty forgiving (R6 is not so forgiving)
Any differences in terms of passenger comfort? I know we're talking about sport bikes, but my gf rides a lot with me so I'm hesitating between the two, R6 vs R1 Crossplane. Thanks and great vids btw!
Seat comfort for the passenger is very similar between the two bikes. As the driver I enjoy doubling on the r1 more. The seat height is lower and longer wheel base makes it feel more stable with two people. The low end torque is also nice for the extra body weight
The R1 is literally a street legal MotoGP bike when you get them unrestricted. The R6 is the chilled out little brother that gets fist bumped by its older brothers friends lol
When you were talking about the r6 you said "almost perfect sound" I'm looking super intensly for the perfect deep sound with the just perfect tune, any recommendations?
For a good sounding r6 the mid pipe / cat delete is a must. I did the M4 mid pipe but other brands would be very similar. As far as the rear slip ons go they all have slightly different exhaust notes. My favourite sounding slip ons would be the M4, yoshimura, or two brothers. A bigger front header pipe to give your bike a true full exhaust would give the deepest sound possible. Only down side is headers are pretty expensive!
@@JT2JZ Superbike racer has a full akroprvic exhaust on his colorful r6 and honestly it sounds so amazing like when he let's go of the throttle and then gives it gas you have the rumble and gives me such satisfaction but it's not deep like one if the comments even said it sounds like a house fly, I'm on a hunt to find "the motorcycle sound" the same sound I remember as a kid, the same sound I hear when bikes are flying by a few blocks away from me, I'm still looking but you definitely helped, thankyou. I also don't know why i never thought to cat delete my bike it never even came to me but would forsure make it sound better
Akrapovic is a great brand as well. Honestly most of todays modern exhaust systems perform great. It just comes down to personal preference with small sound differences. In your case if you already have a slip on I would say start with the mid pipe and you might be surprised at how big of a difference just that will make. My only other advice would be don’t use a straight pipe style rear slip on. They sound really raspy and you end up loosing power. As long as you have some kind of small slip on muffler you should be good to go after the mid pipe install 🤘
I feel like if you dont go to the limit on an r1 you dont have balls. I spent good money on my bike I'm not going to waste it. That was 5 years ago. I feel like I've almost mastered it but you never truly will master anything that beastly. Getting too confident is what gets you killed. Cheers
I agree. I bought the R1 for one purpose, speed. I definitely push the bike hard as well but what I find is it’s the roads where I live that are the limiting factor. The bike wants more but our roads are sh*t. Constantly hitting dips, pot holes, frost heaves, or gravel that make the bike unstable or loose traction. Our long winter season causes heavy damage to the roads every year. Have you ever lost traction and started to spin going over 200kms/hr? I have. Or hitting a pot hole giving you such bad speed wobble your inner thighs get bruised from slapping the tank. Definitely makes a guy error on the cautious side when on the streets anyway.
@@JT2JZ those are valid points and that sucks. That's the one draw back of living far north. Along with rust issues on vehicles. I live in a major city in the midwest with plenty of highways and bikes that run frequently. And our main police force now has a no chase policy. So I have the freedom to ride how I like. I lose traction all the time in 1st when getting on it but thankfully never lost total control because good throttle control is key for older bikes. No rider aides to save us. Also being lowered 1.5 inches makes it more stable and being a fat ass 190 pounds helps too. I've even ran over a deer or some large roadkill "it was at night" going 80 and literally ramped whatever it was but got lucky didn't wobble or lose it. Many close calls some too close. Should have scared me a little bit but that fear has long passed seeing how I haven't went down... yet and been riding it for so long i consider myself fortunate I live where I do. Cheers
I’m jealous. We only have a couple of main roads in our small town so not a lot of selection. The police force here would rather chase you down, endangering everyone else and potentially cause a major accident just to issue a minor ticket. Hopefully you have a good riding season. Stay safe out there brotha
@@JT2JZ man that blows. I would hope you have some sort of track or spot to have fun on or what's the point imo. And yes the police shouldn't chase bikes and endanger public for what?! Ego? A 200$ speeding ticket? Stupid no matter how you put it. And yes you as well. These bikes and the 5 valve genesis motor are gems and I will keep it for the rest of my life. 37k miles (59k km) and no valve adjustment needed at 28k interval. Ride safe but have fun when you can amigo. Lifes too short not to. Like I told my folks when I got the thing. I'm not afraid of dying I'm afraid of not living. Cheers
Hey I wanted to ask a question. I am getting the same Yoshimura exhaust for my R6, and I have aftermarket headers too. Do I need a link pipe to join the slip on and headers?
On my bike the stock header and cated mid pipe were one piece. I had to cut the cat off the stock header and clamp on the new mid pipe when I did a cat delete. I guess it would depend on the length of your aftermarket header. If it isn’t that long after the accumulator section you will likely need an added mid pipe. I’m not 100% sure because I’m still running the stock header at the moment
@JT2JZ looking forward to that one as well! I currently have a gen 1 hayabusa and an 09 R1. Going to be doing a comparison on my channel of those as well :). You are right about the Crossplane R1 though, it does have a goofy low end response compared to other sportbikes. I was just watching your cross plane vs flat plane vid a few mins ago.
I do enjoy my R1 more just for the raw power and more usable low end torque for daily driving it. If you are a confident rider I would say go for the r1. If you don’t have a lot of bike experience the r6 is a very good balance of power and handling characteristics to learn with
@@JT2JZ I just bought the r1 as my first bike, I don't regret that decision after riding it the past 2 days. And I am 5'3 and the height is not that concerning. I'm pretty much on the ball of my feet. I think ima end up lowering the suspension to fit my weight once I save a bit of money. I think that should help me comfortably flat foot it. Thanks for your reply 😊
I came here in ny bought a 2020 mt09 bnew after 1 yr and 3 mnths it got stolen on june 1st 2022. So now im browsing and made a deal of a 2004 r1 cherry with a very good deal.
In my opinion the 600cc may feel underpowered for you. As long as you have some bike experience I would recommend stepping up to maybe a gsxr750 or R1.
@@JT2JZ I completely understand, and I know you’re right. Against any better judgment though, I think I’m still going to get an R6, give it a try and feel the power it has. Hoping it isn’t as bad as I think, lol. If so, it’ll go out to someone else. Thank you for taking time to reply to my question, subscribed!
Thanks for the support. I’m sure you will still have a great time riding an R6. On the plus side the R6 is the most popular size and has the best resale value so it should be easy to resell if it comes to that.
Question. I currently ride a Honda crf450r and I’m planning on switching to a street. I’m currently looking at the r6 but I’m wondering If I’ll get bored quick since it’s just a couple cc up from a 450. Should I just go with an r1?
Dirt bikes and street bikes are a lot different. Your 450 has a ton of torque and relatively short gears. Both the r6 and the R1 have really long gears and make most of there power up top. I think you could handle either bike relatively easy if you are comfortable on a 450 but it would come down to what’s more important for you. If it’s power obviously get the R1. If you want a better handling bike get the r6. I personally prefer the power but I still enjoy every time I get on a 600cc rocket. I don’t think I would ever get bored with either of these bikes. You just end up riding them slightly different that’s all.
Hey I got a questioon for yah! So I’m a 5’7 male and was wondering if I would be able to flat foot either of these bikes? Or if I would even be able to touch the ground lol. Sorry if this is a dumb question
@@JT2JZ hell if you have to tip toe the dirt bike ima have to hop off and and stand next to it 😂 might as well have a picnic with it while I’m holdin it
I love my rsexxy 06 blue and 09 raven black compare to my murdered out 07 r1... I sold my 07 r1 dont really like the looks but kept my 06 and 09 rsexxy...its called rsexxy for a reason... now they are discontinued and I had it sent to the Philippines...I will always keep my r6 I might just get the 2021 for that matter. Good comparison.. Ride safe bro.
R6 was discontinued in 2020, unless you want to pay $18-20k for the beefed up track only version. I’m sure the wait list is crazy long on those, as they are built to order. Definitely hang on to your R6, they’re only going to be more expensive as time goes on.
@@JT2JZ Yep me too im a sexxy fan... do not know why they stop the sexxy... but the r7 sucks i tried my friends but a little to tame for me at the track..
@@JT2JZ that’s fair I’m definitely more of a relaxed rider I do push my bike from time to time but I’m someone who just respects the bike. But I am also kind of nervous for the jump
Honestly I’m a casual rider most days as well. My favourite part about the R1 is you don’t have to down shift and rev it really high if you hit a yellow light or want to pass someone. Doesn’t really matter what gear your in just roll into the throttle and it has the low end grunt. I use mine as a daily driver and I love it. As long as you respect the bike ( and it sounds like you would ) you will be just fine.
R1 33 miles per gallon. R6 50 miles per gallon. Insurance is also more expensive with higher CC engines. Most corners at the track are perfect for 2nd gear on the r6 where the R1 is faster on the straight and the R6 is the best handling bike Yamaha makes as weight affects handling. That R6 doesnt have electronics which is what I like as u are forced to learn the physics of riding. R1 is too powerful and the electronics save most people from falling all the time and that prevents u from learning proper technique. I love my r6.
The r1 didn’t have any rider assist features until the newer Crossplane bikes like my new 2012. I do agree though the raw feeling older bikes are a blast to ride!
Love how he says the headlights on the r6 are better then turns them both on and the says the lights on the r1 are better make up your mindddddd brotherrrrrrr
If I could get your opinion on this I’m looking at a 2007 R6 5k miles for $6.5k and a 2008 r1 10k miles for $7k I had a 600 for a year it was a Gsxr so totally different which one should I go fo
Those are both good bikes with low kms that would literally last forever. I think it would come down to if you want a bike that is better for straight line acceleration ( R1 ) or a bike that’s a little shorter with better handling and feels more playful ( R6 )
hey, I’m looking at a 2016 r6 w/ a power commander and other stuff for $7k, it has 15k miles and hasn’t been rode in 3 months..would this be a good buy or do you think it has issues? Thanks!
It’s always hard to say without seeing a bike in person but that sounds like a reasonable deal. I’ve owned many r6 bikes and have never had any major issues with any of them. Just have a close look at wearable parts like tires, brake pads, fork seals, battery. Other than those items you shouldn’t have any issues. They are pretty solid bikes!
The power commanders are a pretty easy plug and play system for the most part. It would be pretty hard to mess up that install. I believe there is only one wire that’s a throttle input that’s not plug and play I think it would either work or not work so you should be good to go there. I’ve never had any issues with the old power commander 3 or the new 5 series.
I’m in current negotiations with a guy that is selling his Yamaha R6 2008 with 15,000 miles on it for $5500. The bike has been taken care of from what I can see and it still has the original fairings and mechanics. Only things modified are the exhaust, HID lights, levers, etc. Anyways my question is, would that be a good buy for year 2021 or is that a bad choice? I do think the price is too steep and I offered $4500 cash in the spot for it (which he is thinking about). What are your thoughts? Thanks in advance for the reply.
Where I live the market for the R6 seems to be inflated because they are a very popular bike. For me here in Canada it would be hard to find an R6 in decent shape for less than $5500. I’m not sure what your market is like but I would think if you can pick that bike up for $5000 it would be a pretty reasonable price.
My 2009 R6 has 25000kms. So very similar in mileage. I would say that’s average for the year. If it’s a bike you plan to keep for a while I wouldn’t be to worried about it but I do notice the resale value of these bikes starts to drop a decent amount after 30,000kms - 35,000kms. At 15000 miles I would look at your basic wear and tear items like tires, brakes, chain and sprocket, fork seals. Other than those items I’ve never seen any other issues with these bikes. They are very reliable.
@@JT2JZ cool. I’ll definitely check those basic wear and tears. Replacing forks is pricey as shit. Don’t want to have to do that. If I end up buying the bike I was going to do the usual tune up, new fluids, new spark plugs, probably will end up buying a new gold chain to match the black and gold color scheme of the bike, some new brake pads and possibly new tires. Hopefully that’s all in need to do. Even better I hope I don’t have to do anything at all to it lol. Anyways thank you. I will come back for any advice or help if I need any. God bless!
Ya fork seals are definitely the main most expensive things to look at. Leaking fork seals and an unevenly worn front tire can be signs of a bike that has been stunted / wheelies. Good luck with the purchase! Cheers.
I’ve always wanted to try a panigale V4! They are torque monsters from what I hear. Is there anything you don’t like about it? Are all the electronic rider assists perfect?
@@JT2JZ Is just a dream bike I always wanted it everything is perfect and smooth you have ABS control Traction Control Slide Control Wheelie Control Power Launch Quick Shift up/down engine Brake Control and Electronic Suspension has soo many features and what I like the most the esthetics of it I would not change it for any other bike I got it on full black and is gorgeous
Buy an R6. You'll never get to use all those power in the R1 most of the time. If your country is traffic free playground, then R1 is maybe what you should buy. R6 is more than fast enough for the road and is more fun in the twisties.
For a daily driver I actually enjoy the r1 more. It has way more usable torque in the low rpm range where you spend most of your time casually cruising around. For example hit a yellow light, no need to down shift. Just roll into throttle no matter what gear you are in. Very street friendly for me.
@@JT2JZ true. R6 is for trigger happy type of a person I guess (like me unfortunately). Changing gear is too addicting for me. I definitely don't deserve the R1 because of that lol.
Is that r6 a crossplane engine? I know that r1 isn't. How's the difference between the 2 engines. I know there different sizes but how's the power band on the r6?
Yamaha never made a Crossplane engine for the R6 just the R1. The R6 still has great power! You just have to rev it a lot higher. Power comes on hard around 10,000rpm and pulls strong all the way to 16500rpm. Very fun playful bike. Handles better than my R1
You can’t compare an 09 r6 to an 06 r1.... the 06 r1 looks way better then the 06 r6 and 09 r1 looks way way better then the 09 r6. Especially with the cross plain.
I started on an R6 and rode it almost everyday for about a year. I was definitely ready to upgrade to an R1 about a month into owning the R6 but I had to sell it due to a move, definitely a great starter bike for sure tho
Probably not a good idea unless you have a huge amount of respect for the bike and perfect self control. The temptation to outride your skill level is always there even for me!
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Now this is a review, man. People who actually rode the bike full time, know everything about it. The spare key info was very important to me, and I appreciate that tip. Thanks a lot, man!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help!
Cheers.
what you talked about the seat profile on the R6 is very true and often not mentioned in reviews. it does make the bike feel higher than it really is.
I 100% agree. It’s one of the first things you notice getting on the R6 and yet no one ever says anything about it.
@@JT2JZ that's true, I've never heard anyone say it but that's exactly what it feels like, I like your video and nice collection dude, that's quite a line up.
I just got a 2004 R1 yesterday. Picked her up & rode her back home, 2 hour ride and loved it so much. First time riding a 1000cc bike. I’ve owned 250cc & 2x 600cc. I’ll never go back. 1000cc all the way baby!! Great video brother, greetings from Australia. Ride safe.
I agree. Once you get a taste of a 1000cc rocket you can never replace that feeling with anything smaller.
Cheers
Hope sh'e's serving you well.
Took me down memory lane... first bike we ever bought was a 04 R1 from a cop in Miami. This was back in 2009. I would buy that bike again. Crazy how fast time went by.
Agreed. I do miss my older bikes some days!
The R6 looks like a weapon. The power of the R1 is appealing but the way the R6 creeps on the power when you start getting the revs high is addicting
Well said. I definitely agree!
This has been such an important video for me. I have been riding a 250cc for almost 2 years now and am ready to upgrade. These are two of my favorite options so this is a useful comparison. Thanks for the video.
I’m glad I could help out! Thanks for the support.
Get a 600 but don't pay too much
I'm siding with Bruce on this one. Snag up a 600. The jump you will have from a 600 to a 1000 is about the same as a 250 to 600. My R6 was awesome, but it does get a little old because it was to easy to ride. Meaning, it was no work to go fast and hold corners. Youll have way more power in the road than you'll need. You'll hang with any sports car out there.
I agree as well. If you were happy riding the 250 for two years a 600 will be a lot of bike from what you are used to! Better to error on the safe side my friend.
It is more fun to ride a small bike fast, than a big bike slow.
Great job explaining these bikes in a real world comparison. It's awesome to hear that from people who actually spend time riding the bikes. Ride safe!!
Thanks man. I appreciate the feed back.
Hey Matt, I suggest the r7 as a step to either. Sounds weird going for a 700cc over a 600cc but it's a much more relaxed ride however if you are experienced and capable enough then the r6 is an amazing and fun ride. Ride safe bud
I have to show appreciation for mentioning your thoughts on people who are experienced riding dirt bikes, moving onto a liter bike. This is one of the only videos I've watched that discusses that perspective, and it helps me personally as well.
Honestly I think dirt biking is some of the best rider experience to have. Always riding on different loose surfaces and navigating over obstacles you really learn how a bike handles a lot quicker than on the street!
R1 Has ALWAYS been king! R6s are great but R1 is something else!! Legends
Can’t beat that raw power!
r6 sounds way cooler, and in a circuit the r6 wins anyday
R6 is shorter and does handle better in the corners
The R6 might feel lighter because of the shorter wheel base and your not leaning over it.as much as the R1, but still the R1 is pound for pound king
Thanks! My favourite bike from 600cc and 1000cc. R6 is very beautiful, cool in driving, but r1 is monster.
Agreed!
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"you dont think 40-50 pounds is a lot" me sitting here watching the video as a 6'6 320 pound guy, damn i gotta go on a diet lmao
Every pound counts! Haha
@@JT2JZ if i got the R1 it would be as fast as an r6 with my weight lmao
Ya it doesn’t take much to change the power to weight ratio on such a small bike. You probably wouldn’t notice as much on a heavier cruiser style bike or Harley with more low end torque.
😆😂
@@kadeaugsburger6764 you built for a busa bro
I got a 2008 R1, still to this day it scares the shit out of me😨💪💪
That’s a good year for the R1! Last year of the flatplane.
I agree. I have to tell myself not to do something stupid every time I get on this bad boy.
@@JT2JZ yes I deed, I got over 2500 bucks on aftermarket accessories, the bike likes the attention it gets. Next is going to be a 300 Fat tire Kit with Hellian Chrome wheels 👌
That will definitely be unique and stand out from the crowd 🤘
gotta appreciate the colour scheme on that r6 fr!
Ya the black and gold is definitely one of my favourite! I’m trying to find a cross plane R1 In that colour for next season.
One of the best Bike comparison videos I've ever seen well done, awesome wheelies 😂
I have an 02 R1 with a D&D slip on exhaust, power Comander, slipper clutch, lowering kit, I bought it 2nd hand so I don't remember all the specific upgrades but it is insanely fast. My buddy has an 03 R6 same type of upgrades we've swapped bikes on rides and in city riding the R6 is better to ride because the R1 just wants to go. In first gear with no throttle the R1 idles at about 25mph the R6 dosen't really have any power till you get past 4000rpms. On the highway the R1 is king it has insane tourqe and speed at low RPMS you don't have to hammer on the R1 the power is there through out the rpm range. Handling I haven't noticed that big of a difference in handling maybe because my suspension isn't stock. The only problem I had with my R1 is cross winds on the highway I was getting blown all over the road, but the rear tire was at 25psi I put at 35psi no more floating in the crosswinds. My only complaint with both the R6 and R1 is they are not comfortable on long rides. My Ninja 500r way more comfortable on long rides and my ZX6R (636) is extremely comfortable and I think it's faster then the R6. The R1 has low beams on both sides and highbeams on both sides. As far as ignition replacement you can get an ignition, Gas tank lock and seat lock on Ebay for under $60 for the R6 or the R1. My R1 came with a plain steel key. I bought a 3pack of blank yamaha keys red, blue, and black on Amazon for like $20 and had HomeDepot cut me a spare.
Doesn’t lowering kit put out bikes handling just curious
Great detailed comparison. You make a great case for each bike. Beautiful examples- love the murdered out look.
Thanks for the kind words. Mostly black is definitely my favourite colour scheme as well!
But that race with the Supra at the end I thought I heard that Stu Stu Stu in that first clip there 😂🤯🤯
Awesome video man. Very well put together and helped me make my decision a lot better. Wishing you the best!
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I could help!
I drive the Fazer 1000 (2002) first edition an Amazing very comfortable, very fast bike.0-100km/t 3.5 sek. Max.Enoughf for me 66year old Guy.
Thank you for one of the Best video i have seen.
Drive carefully, you got only 1 life❤👋
Frank Larsen Denmark
Thank you for the kind words 🙏
R1 every time dude. 'Black' keys can be cloned now at key cutting stores. No major drama if you lose the red one anymore 👍
Agreed man. My first bike was a litre bike ( 2004 cbr1000rr ). For my own personal bike I would never own anything smaller. I’m a power junky at the end of the day 🤘.
Glad to hear other companies are starting to clone keys. Now If only the dealerships would get on board!
Can you expand on that? i only have 1 black key left!
I wish I saw this sooner. Owned a 6 for years and thinking of upgrading. Slated to buy a 1 used in ~2 weeks. This was very helpful, thank you!! Mind if I PM you next week with any last minute questions I may have?
Thanks for the kind words. Ya feel free to message me here any time.
@@JT2JZ thanks so much man, will do! Liked and subscribed, this was a great video. Saved me hours of forum research lol. Stay well!
I appreciate it 🙏. If I can get more activity on my channel I will be dropping a lot more content. Feel free to leave any video ideas here as well.
@@JT2JZ If you build it, they will come. That's what I've learned from some people I've encountered who create content on TH-cam.
@@JT2JZ So I didn't realize YT didn't offer any sort of DM functionality...figured it would. Is there another platform we can leverage to toss ideas around?
I have the same generation R1 04/06 and a 16 R6 and with proper setup this gen R1 can turn in like no other to the point my R1 out turns my R6 but I have yet to set up the R6 and am fairly certain this will change. That said a well set up R1 with Bridgestones latest DOT race rubber is unbelievable!!!! Something about the Bridgestone front it turns in like no other.
Ya for how old these bikes are now it’s pretty crazy how well they perform still! Very well built bikes for the price.
@@JT2JZ so true and my 2016 R6 is the same bike as this 09. It’s been a great run for the R6.
I meant to say it’s the same bike as your 09 R6.
Ya they found a platform that simply works and they stuck with it for a long time!
Yeah I had my R1 lowered to be able to flat foot her comfortably...Cool video...We need more uploads, BrO! 🤘
What kit did you get to lower your R1? I should look into that for my GF and her R6. She is only 5’4.
More videos on the way! Thanks for the support man.
Got a 13 R1, by far my fav generation R1.
Agreed. It’s been my favourite bike to date as well
God damn the ending with the Supra was clean
Thanks man. The supra will be for sale here soon if you know anyone looking
You're a legend, dude.
Please Post more such videos
Thanks man! I had some fun making this vid.
Hi Jt2jz, u made such a simple n informative video, I think u should create a separate channel for Motorbike content.
Such on point info, which is hard to find. loved it. U will have great success.......... If u keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words and support. When summer comes I will definitely be making more bike / riding videos. Maybe some stunting / tips and tricks along the way.
I’m relatively new to TH-cam still but learning as I go. More bike content is a guarantee though. These videos are getting the most viewers.
i miss my 09 R6 so much :'( cant wait to get my full licence so i can get it or even upgrade to a 1000cc
Both bikes are a riot!
R1 looks way better...still today its a beauty. I love my red RN12
This was really helpful. After seeing this is think im gonna try for something like gsxr750, a nice middle road. My biggest problem rn though is that as you said, litre bikes are somehow cheaper.
The market pricing is odd for sure. I think the 600s are just more popular for most people and that drives used prices up.
A gsxr750 is a solid option for sure. I’ve rode them before and they are pretty much exactly what you would expect. You can usually find them relatively cheap as well so win / win.
In my opinion, r6 all day perfect for the road, R1 track days for the power it has.
Both bikes are amazing and definitely have unique characteristics to offer.
I always enjoy the ride no matter what bike I’m on. The older I get the more bikes I want because I appreciate them all! It’s very inconvenient some days 😆
my 03 r6 was the bees knees. my 06 r1 saved my life in high speed turns
This video is so nice..from Romania
More like this
Thanks you 🙏. Subscribe for more videos. If my channel gets more traffic I will be making a lot more content.
Get the 1 unless u don’t need top end speed
Ya the R1 really starts to pull hard on the r6 above 100kms/hr
I’m so glad i found your channel man
I’m soon planning on getting a 08 up r6
This video was od informative
Thanks boss. I’m glad you got some value from it.
I normally hear the R6 is more track oriented and the R1 is better on the street and less of a track weapon.
They look great together in black 🏁🏁
Thank you!
Black Is definitely my favourite.
Bro keep going on
Nice review.. Love from Bangladesh
Thanks for the kind words.
I’m waiting to see if I can register my TH-cam account after I get 1000 subscriptions.
Get your friends to subscribe. It will give me more motivation to keep making content. I do have a lot of video ideas for the future!
20:25 the bang from the supra.. damn. imagine having those bangs on the bike 😂
The supra launch control is absolutely rowdy in person! Not many vehicles in this world that are louder to be honest.
He really meant it when he said head go head
Damn that key information was very depressing, I didn’t know how bad my situation was , worst part is this one black key I got came from the dealership, was sold the bike never even knowing about a “red” key , I thought “one key is fine I can always get a copy made” 🤦♂️
Yes it’s extremely inconvenient and expensive. Ive heard rumour that you may get lucky these days and find an aftermarket company to clone the black key. It’s worth looking into anyway!
^Ive seen the same 2 comments before its a scam.
@@nightnday6675 great job 👏
Your video has much more information that I was looking for than in that so called expert 'Yammie Noob' or so.
Thanks you. That means a lot. I am familiar with his videos because he is very popular!
He is better at video editing than me but I would like to think I have a lot of real world experience.
R6 yep ive had boath ive tought track for around 20 years now and id still pick the R6 everyday of the week
Great review I liked it. The only thing I dident like was comparing looks and such, I get comparing mechanical things and such to and extent. But if I was to compare and 1990’s bike to a newer 2020+ version… then… yea you get the point. I know their only 3 years apart BUT they did change the looks in between z just sayn!! Still really enjoyed the video thanks!!!
600 is great if you get it new. second hand you are buying a bike that has been thrashed by some other hoon and maybe asking for trouble. I love both bikes and that is why I have an FZ1 gen 2. No bow leggedness on the fizzy. Nothing but comfort and wanting to ride all day long.
Yes unfortunately most crotch rockets are cheap enough that younger guys buy and use them for racing / stunting. As the years go by it does get harder to find used bikes in good shape.
I love the FZ1 for how practical and comfortable they are! I am a little disappointed with the power output though. They detune the fz1 so much that my r6 is very similar power wise. If they had the same engine tune from a traditional R1 it would be the perfect bike!
I also heard that Yamaha is discontinuing the r6. They are not updating it to keep up with stricter emission regulations. They are only going to be selling it as a track use ( non street legal ) version now. I was pretty disappointed when I heard this!
Friday = watch R1 videos
Saturday = watch more R1 videos
Sunday = Purchase an R1
Monday to Friday = watch more R1 videos
Sounds like a great schedule to me!
Awesome video my friend. I'm currently looking to buy an R1. Blessings from UK
Thanks bro.
I’m about to drop a new video soon comparing my old 2006 R1 to my new 2012 crossplane engine R1. Maybe it can give you even more insight with the different R1 generations.
Cheers.
@@JT2JZ the big bang 09 is my dream bike, looks so nice.
But i want to start with the 05 as i dont want to spend too much on a bike.
But yes bro, I'll be looking forward to see that comparisson.
I will say for a first bike the older flate plane engines seem to be a little more reliable.
I’ve never had to work on any of my older bikes as much as I have already with my new crossplane. I love my new bike still but
current it’s a love hate relationship 😆
I've never cared about 600's . Use to own a 750. Wished I would have bought bigger instead.
The 750 is a good all around bike but I always find myself guilty of wanting more power as well.
Cool video man and very helpful 👍🏼
I’m glad I could help
Hey bud thx for the side by side comparison. I have an 06 R1 as well and would love to know which high beam bulbs your running.
Thx in advance.
I usually have good luck with cheaper amazon bulbs
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Hello, I’m a new rider, my dad recently passed away and he left his r1 but I’ve never rode a motorcycle before and I’m pretty scared to even touch the bike, is there any tips you could give to me as a new rider or advice when learning
Sorry to hear about the bad news. As long as you have respect for the bike and start off slow to get the feel for the bike you should be ok. My first bike was a 2004 cbr1000rr. It took me almost a full season of just casually riding before I was 100% comfortable on it.
If you ride with other people make sure they don’t push you out of your comfort zone. Some people can push you past your skill level and that’s when an accident will usually happen for a new rider.
At the end of the day make sure you enjoy the ride and have fun 🤘
Jt2jz great damn advice homie
@D Moo-lah Thanks man! Just trying to help out another fellow biker.
@Boosted SC Aye bro are you still alive?
An R1 will be my next bike but I’ll be keeping my R6 as well!
Best of both worlds. I like it!
You Have the Badass bike dude. 💪🏼💪🏼
Thank you 🙏
Much more power in the R1, the R6 screams more and you have to use the gears more, gets tiring after a while and you have to have more rpms to get the power. I have 2 R1s and 2 Honda Vfr 750/800 and prefer the riding style of the VFRs and better for cruising, but the power in the R1s are great.
Low end torque is very nice for the street
The R1 is good on height way ,but R6 is good inside city
Both bikes full of fluids are not 40-50lbs different in weight. Both bikes full of fluids are 5-10lbs difference.
This… is true
R1 for me. Had an 02,08, 12, and now 24.
How do you like the 24 compared to the older 12?
I'll be starting the riding courses soon ; I'm planning to buy a ninja 300 or the R3 for 1 - 2 years ; But that R6 is on my list for the near future after that
Sounds like a perfect plan my friend.
Enjoy the journey! Any time spent on two wheels is always worth it no matter what bike you are on.
That’s what I did too! Went with the R3 and absolutely loved it for 2.5 years, just got an R6 and it’s hard going back to the little R3. But the R3 was a great leaner bike that you can push to its limit and if you make a mistake it’ll be pretty forgiving (R6 is not so forgiving)
Very true!
Any differences in terms of passenger comfort? I know we're talking about sport bikes, but my gf rides a lot with me so I'm hesitating between the two, R6 vs R1 Crossplane.
Thanks and great vids btw!
Seat comfort for the passenger is very similar between the two bikes.
As the driver I enjoy doubling on the r1 more. The seat height is lower and longer wheel base makes it feel more stable with two people. The low end torque is also nice for the extra body weight
The R1 is literally a street legal MotoGP bike when you get them unrestricted. The R6 is the chilled out little brother that gets fist bumped by its older brothers friends lol
Very accurate haha
r6 is the sickest looking bike to me, after that my favorite looking bike is cbr600rr
The older cbr600rr and the R6 had a pretty similar look. That’s probably why I loved my old 2006 cbr1000rr so much. Great looking bikes as well
When you were talking about the r6 you said "almost perfect sound" I'm looking super intensly for the perfect deep sound with the just perfect tune, any recommendations?
For a good sounding r6 the mid pipe / cat delete is a must. I did the M4 mid pipe but other brands would be very similar. As far as the rear slip ons go they all have slightly different exhaust notes. My favourite sounding slip ons would be the M4, yoshimura, or two brothers.
A bigger front header pipe to give your bike a true full exhaust would give the deepest sound possible. Only down side is headers are pretty expensive!
@@JT2JZ Superbike racer has a full akroprvic exhaust on his colorful r6 and honestly it sounds so amazing like when he let's go of the throttle and then gives it gas you have the rumble and gives me such satisfaction but it's not deep like one if the comments even said it sounds like a house fly, I'm on a hunt to find "the motorcycle sound" the same sound I remember as a kid, the same sound I hear when bikes are flying by a few blocks away from me, I'm still looking but you definitely helped, thankyou. I also don't know why i never thought to cat delete my bike it never even came to me but would forsure make it sound better
Akrapovic is a great brand as well. Honestly most of todays modern exhaust systems perform great. It just comes down to personal preference with small sound differences.
In your case if you already have a slip on I would say start with the mid pipe and you might be surprised at how big of a difference just that will make.
My only other advice would be don’t use a straight pipe style rear slip on. They sound really raspy and you end up loosing power. As long as you have some kind of small slip on muffler you should be good to go after the mid pipe install 🤘
try leovince sbk evo 2
I feel like if you dont go to the limit on an r1 you dont have balls. I spent good money on my bike I'm not going to waste it. That was 5 years ago. I feel like I've almost mastered it but you never truly will master anything that beastly. Getting too confident is what gets you killed. Cheers
I agree. I bought the R1 for one purpose, speed. I definitely push the bike hard as well but what I find is it’s the roads where I live that are the limiting factor. The bike wants more but our roads are sh*t. Constantly hitting dips, pot holes, frost heaves, or gravel that make the bike unstable or loose traction. Our long winter season causes heavy damage to the roads every year.
Have you ever lost traction and started to spin going over 200kms/hr? I have. Or hitting a pot hole giving you such bad speed wobble your inner thighs get bruised from slapping the tank.
Definitely makes a guy error on the cautious side when on the streets anyway.
@@JT2JZ those are valid points and that sucks. That's the one draw back of living far north. Along with rust issues on vehicles. I live in a major city in the midwest with plenty of highways and bikes that run frequently. And our main police force now has a no chase policy. So I have the freedom to ride how I like. I lose traction all the time in 1st when getting on it but thankfully never lost total control because good throttle control is key for older bikes. No rider aides to save us. Also being lowered 1.5 inches makes it more stable and being a fat ass 190 pounds helps too. I've even ran over a deer or some large roadkill "it was at night" going 80 and literally ramped whatever it was but got lucky didn't wobble or lose it. Many close calls some too close. Should have scared me a little bit but that fear has long passed seeing how I haven't went down... yet and been riding it for so long
i consider myself fortunate I live where I do. Cheers
I’m jealous. We only have a couple of main roads in our small town so not a lot of selection. The police force here would rather chase you down, endangering everyone else and potentially cause a major accident just to issue a minor ticket.
Hopefully you have a good riding season. Stay safe out there brotha
@@JT2JZ man that blows. I would hope you have some sort of track or spot to have fun on or what's the point imo. And yes the police shouldn't chase bikes and endanger public for what?! Ego? A 200$ speeding ticket? Stupid no matter how you put it. And yes you as well. These bikes and the 5 valve genesis motor are gems and I will keep it for the rest of my life. 37k miles (59k km) and no valve adjustment needed at 28k interval. Ride safe but have fun when you can amigo. Lifes too short not to. Like I told my folks when I got the thing. I'm not afraid of dying I'm afraid of not living. Cheers
Couldn’t have said it better my self 👌
Hey I wanted to ask a question. I am getting the same Yoshimura exhaust for my R6, and I have aftermarket headers too. Do I need a link pipe to join the slip on and headers?
On my bike the stock header and cated mid pipe were one piece. I had to cut the cat off the stock header and clamp on the new mid pipe when I did a cat delete.
I guess it would depend on the length of your aftermarket header. If it isn’t that long after the accumulator section you will likely need an added mid pipe.
I’m not 100% sure because I’m still running the stock header at the moment
Excellent comparison and review! Subscribed good sir!
Thanks for the support! More video’s coming soon. Currently working on comparing my Crossplane R1 to my aprilia RSV4
@JT2JZ looking forward to that one as well! I currently have a gen 1 hayabusa and an 09 R1. Going to be doing a comparison on my channel of those as well :).
You are right about the Crossplane R1 though, it does have a goofy low end response compared to other sportbikes. I was just watching your cross plane vs flat plane vid a few mins ago.
short rider here. two bikes priced at 4000, 12k mile r6 or 17k mile r1. both are 06 which one should I buy??
I do enjoy my R1 more just for the raw power and more usable low end torque for daily driving it.
If you are a confident rider I would say go for the r1.
If you don’t have a lot of bike experience the r6 is a very good balance of power and handling characteristics to learn with
@@JT2JZ I just bought the r1 as my first bike, I don't regret that decision after riding it the past 2 days. And I am 5'3 and the height is not that concerning. I'm pretty much on the ball of my feet. I think ima end up lowering the suspension to fit my weight once I save a bit of money. I think that should help me comfortably flat foot it. Thanks for your reply 😊
Nice choice 👌. Enjoy the new wheels brotha
I came here in ny bought a 2020 mt09 bnew after 1 yr and 3 mnths it got stolen on june 1st 2022. So now im browsing and made a deal of a 2004 r1 cherry with a very good deal.
Sorry about your bad luck. I’ve had bikes stolen and I know how much it sucks.
You will enjoy your r1 though. 2004 is a good year
Hey man. Question. I’m a bigger guy. Pushing 300lb, 5’11, I’ve wanted an R6 for so long, would I lose all it’s power given the weight?
In my opinion the 600cc may feel underpowered for you. As long as you have some bike experience I would recommend stepping up to maybe a gsxr750 or R1.
@@JT2JZ I completely understand, and I know you’re right. Against any better judgment though, I think I’m still going to get an R6, give it a try and feel the power it has. Hoping it isn’t as bad as I think, lol. If so, it’ll go out to someone else. Thank you for taking time to reply to my question, subscribed!
Thanks for the support. I’m sure you will still have a great time riding an R6.
On the plus side the R6 is the most popular size and has the best resale value so it should be easy to resell if it comes to that.
I love the R1 but u can use the power more on the R6
It’s definitely fun pushing the R6 to its limits and not having to worry about loosing traction as much. It puts the power to the ground very well
Question.
I currently ride a Honda crf450r and I’m planning on switching to a street. I’m currently looking at the r6 but I’m wondering If I’ll get bored quick since it’s just a couple cc up from a 450. Should I just go with an r1?
Dirt bikes and street bikes are a lot different. Your 450 has a ton of torque and relatively short gears. Both the r6 and the R1 have really long gears and make most of there power up top. I think you could handle either bike relatively easy if you are comfortable on a 450 but it would come down to what’s more important for you. If it’s power obviously get the R1. If you want a better handling bike get the r6. I personally prefer the power but I still enjoy every time I get on a 600cc rocket. I don’t think I would ever get bored with either of these bikes. You just end up riding them slightly different that’s all.
Hey I got a questioon for yah!
So I’m a 5’7 male and was wondering if I would be able to flat foot either of these bikes? Or if I would even be able to touch the ground lol. Sorry if this is a dumb question
I’m 5’10 and can flat foot on the R1. You would probably be pretty close as well on the R1.
You would be on your tip toes for sure on the r6.
@@JT2JZ damn.. I hate to be that guy who has to tip toe a motorcycle.. but hey I’m 17 so maybe I’ll grow more xD
I have to tip toe on my dirt bike still so I know the struggle!
The ride is always worth it though 🤘
@@JT2JZ hell if you have to tip toe the dirt bike ima have to hop off and and stand next to it 😂 might as well have a picnic with it while I’m holdin it
Haha no doubt 😆
I love my rsexxy 06 blue and 09 raven black compare to my murdered out 07 r1... I sold my 07 r1 dont really like the looks but kept my 06 and 09 rsexxy...its called rsexxy for a reason... now they are discontinued and I had it sent to the Philippines...I will always keep my r6 I might just get the 2021 for that matter.
Good comparison..
Ride safe bro.
That r6 will be a collector’s bike one day. Definitely hang onto it!
Thanks for the support bro.
Cheers!
@@JT2JZ
Yess sir
R6 was discontinued in 2020, unless you want to pay $18-20k for the beefed up track only version. I’m sure the wait list is crazy long on those, as they are built to order. Definitely hang on to your R6, they’re only going to be more expensive as time goes on.
I always thought the R6 was Yamahas most popular size bike. Crazy to see them basically just give up on it. I’m very disappointed!
@@JT2JZ Yep me too im a sexxy fan... do not know why they stop the sexxy... but the r7 sucks i tried my friends but a little to tame for me at the track..
I just saw a comment on another video this dude said
"A girl i matched on tinder asked if i ride an r6 or r1. I said r 6 and she unmatched me"
😂😂😂😂
That’s actually hilarious! Straight up savage.
This probably won’t get a response but as a short male only 5’4 would I be able to atleast tip toe an r1???
Yes you would. My wife is roughly the same height and she still rides both of these bikes!
@@JT2JZ awesome thank you
Very helpful,thank you👍
Glad I could help!
So I owned a 2009 R6 and I’m torn between going back to it or going up to the R1
If you have never experienced an R1 I think it’s a must at some point.
New experiences keep life exciting
@@JT2JZ that’s fair I’m definitely more of a relaxed rider I do push my bike from time to time but I’m someone who just respects the bike. But I am also kind of nervous for the jump
Honestly I’m a casual rider most days as well. My favourite part about the R1 is you don’t have to down shift and rev it really high if you hit a yellow light or want to pass someone. Doesn’t really matter what gear your in just roll into the throttle and it has the low end grunt.
I use mine as a daily driver and I love it.
As long as you respect the bike ( and it sounds like you would ) you will be just fine.
@@JT2JZ i appreciate your insight, also I’m about 5’8 ish will I be fine height wise on the R1?
R1 seat height is actually lower than an R6 so no worries there!
I’m 5’10 and can basically flat foot
R6, it is. Thank you.
Can't imagine how fast the Supra is!!!!
It’s pretty similar to the R1 from a roll. Very fun car for sure!
hey man can you do a comparison between the R6 and the R1 2012 that you recently bought please
Thanks for the video idea. I’ll see what I can do!
@@JT2JZ Thank you for all the content, we love black and we love Yamaha
No worries. Thanks for the support!
You and me both 🤘
R1 33 miles per gallon. R6 50 miles per gallon. Insurance is also more expensive with higher CC engines. Most corners at the track are perfect for 2nd gear on the r6 where the R1 is faster on the straight and the R6 is the best handling bike Yamaha makes as weight affects handling. That R6 doesnt have electronics which is what I like as u are forced to learn the physics of riding. R1 is too powerful and the electronics save most people from falling all the time and that prevents u from learning proper technique. I love my r6.
The r1 didn’t have any rider assist features until the newer Crossplane bikes like my new 2012.
I do agree though the raw feeling older bikes are a blast to ride!
I was about to say uhhhh alot of the r1’s have no rider assist. But ok.
Im 5'7 could i reach on the r6 u think ? Or feels weird to say , should be the other way around, i must go for the bigger boy ?
You would be ok on either bike. My girlfriend is 5’4 and she can tip toe on the r6. She still rides it just fine
R6…no doubt..unless you weight over 200lbs..or 2013 cross plane R1.
Love how he says the headlights on the r6 are better then turns them both on and the says the lights on the r1 are better make up your mindddddd brotherrrrrrr
The lights on the r6 LOOK better in my opinion and the lights perform better on the R1.
Would the r6 be a good starter bike I’m looking into joining the biker world
The r6 is a great starter bike as long as you can respect it. Its probably one of the most common bikes that you won’t outgrow right away.
If I could get your opinion on this I’m looking at a 2007 R6 5k miles for $6.5k and a 2008 r1 10k miles for $7k I had a 600 for a year it was a Gsxr so totally different which one should I go fo
Those are both good bikes with low kms that would literally last forever. I think it would come down to if you want a bike that is better for straight line acceleration ( R1 ) or a bike that’s a little shorter with better handling and feels more playful ( R6 )
hey, I’m looking at a 2016 r6 w/ a power commander and other stuff for $7k, it has 15k miles and hasn’t been rode in 3 months..would this be a good buy or do you think it has issues? Thanks!
It’s always hard to say without seeing a bike in person but that sounds like a reasonable deal.
I’ve owned many r6 bikes and have never had any major issues with any of them. Just have a close look at wearable parts like tires, brake pads, fork seals, battery. Other than those items you shouldn’t have any issues. They are pretty solid bikes!
@@JT2JZ would there be a problem if the power commander was improperly done? And thanks for the fast response I really appreciate it.
The power commanders are a pretty easy plug and play system for the most part. It would be pretty hard to mess up that install. I believe there is only one wire that’s a throttle input that’s not plug and play
I think it would either work or not work so you should be good to go there. I’ve never had any issues with the old power commander 3 or the new 5 series.
Which is the louder on high revs
R6 has a higher pitched sound. R1 is a lower frequency. R1 is likely a bit louder but not by a lot.
What about the fuel consumption for both
R6 gets a lot better fuel mileage
I’m in current negotiations with a guy that is selling his Yamaha R6 2008 with 15,000 miles on it for $5500. The bike has been taken care of from what I can see and it still has the original fairings and mechanics. Only things modified are the exhaust, HID lights, levers, etc.
Anyways my question is, would that be a good buy for year 2021 or is that a bad choice? I do think the price is too steep and I offered $4500 cash in the spot for it (which he is thinking about). What are your thoughts?
Thanks in advance for the reply.
Where I live the market for the R6 seems to be inflated because they are a very popular bike. For me here in Canada it would be hard to find an R6 in decent shape for less than $5500.
I’m not sure what your market is like but I would think if you can pick that bike up for $5000 it would be a pretty reasonable price.
@@JT2JZ What do you think about the Mileage the bike has?
Do you think 15,000 miles for a 2008 is ok or too high for this year 2021?
My 2009 R6 has 25000kms. So very similar in mileage. I would say that’s average for the year.
If it’s a bike you plan to keep for a while I wouldn’t be to worried about it but I do notice the resale value of these bikes starts to drop a decent amount after 30,000kms - 35,000kms.
At 15000 miles I would look at your basic wear and tear items like tires, brakes, chain and sprocket, fork seals.
Other than those items I’ve never seen any other issues with these bikes. They are very reliable.
@@JT2JZ cool. I’ll definitely check those basic wear and tears. Replacing forks is pricey as shit. Don’t want to have to do that.
If I end up buying the bike I was going to do the usual tune up, new fluids, new spark plugs, probably will end up buying a new gold chain to match the black and gold color scheme of the bike, some new brake pads and possibly new tires. Hopefully that’s all in need to do. Even better I hope I don’t have to do anything at all to it lol.
Anyways thank you. I will come back for any advice or help if I need any. God bless!
Ya fork seals are definitely the main most expensive things to look at.
Leaking fork seals and an unevenly worn front tire can be signs of a bike that has been stunted / wheelies.
Good luck with the purchase!
Cheers.
Call me crazy but I actually like the sound of the R6 better in this video.
Honestly I love it as well. It’s so rev happy and angry up top!
I have a panigale V4 and I am happy with her
I’ve always wanted to try a panigale V4! They are torque monsters from what I hear. Is there anything you don’t like about it? Are all the electronic rider assists perfect?
@@JT2JZ Is just a dream bike I always wanted it everything is perfect and smooth you have ABS control Traction Control Slide Control Wheelie Control Power Launch Quick Shift up/down engine Brake Control and Electronic Suspension has soo many features and what I like the most the esthetics of it I would not change it for any other bike I got it on full black and is gorgeous
That sounds amazing. Hopefully one day I will own one as well!
Great Video!! Motorcycles are modern funtastic horseees!! Geeeeeed eeeee up!!🤩🇺🇸👍
Agreed!
We all love to tame a beast which is the r1. I feel like the r6 is way too aggressive than the r1 correct me of im wrong
Buy an R6. You'll never get to use all those power in the R1 most of the time. If your country is traffic free playground, then R1 is maybe what you should buy. R6 is more than fast enough for the road and is more fun in the twisties.
For a daily driver I actually enjoy the r1 more. It has way more usable torque in the low rpm range where you spend most of your time casually cruising around.
For example hit a yellow light, no need to down shift. Just roll into throttle no matter what gear you are in. Very street friendly for me.
@@JT2JZ true. R6 is for trigger happy type of a person I guess (like me unfortunately). Changing gear is too addicting for me. I definitely don't deserve the R1 because of that lol.
Is that r6 a crossplane engine? I know that r1 isn't. How's the difference between the 2 engines. I know there different sizes but how's the power band on the r6?
Yamaha never made a Crossplane engine for the R6 just the R1.
The R6 still has great power! You just have to rev it a lot higher. Power comes on hard around 10,000rpm and pulls strong all the way to 16500rpm. Very fun playful bike. Handles better than my R1
@@JT2JZ thanks man. Wasn't sure if they just made it for the r1 or both of em.
No worries
Good review.👍
Thanks. Hopefully you got some value out of it.
You can’t compare an 09 r6 to an 06 r1.... the 06 r1 looks way better then the 06 r6 and 09 r1 looks way way better then the 09 r6. Especially with the cross plain.
I’m trying to find a cross plane for this season to make another video. They are pretty hard to find in my area though. Still searching.
Would they be good for a starter? like the first bike ever?
An R6 is a pretty good all around bike that lots of people start on. I would stay away from the R1 if you don’t have a lot of bike experience though.
I started on an R6 and rode it almost everyday for about a year. I was definitely ready to upgrade to an R1 about a month into owning the R6 but I had to sell it due to a move, definitely a great starter bike for sure tho
The r6 is definitely a very well rounded platform. They hold there value if you do want to sell and upgrade down the road as well
Awsome video Thank you
Should I buy the R1 as a beginner?
Probably not a good idea unless you have a huge amount of respect for the bike and perfect self control. The temptation to outride your skill level is always there even for me!
@@JT2JZ Thanks for the fast reply! I'll start with the R6 then, it's fast enough for me :)
R6 is just as fun to ride! Very rev happy and light.
Can't you just change the front lights on the r6?
The lights on the r6 are already upgraded piaa bulbs.
It’s hard to make 2 bulbs as bright as 4 bulbs though