This storm was horrific. I never ever ever want to experience anything like this in my life ever again. The rainfall and lightning was overwhelming. Our area was saved extreme flooding unlike Valencia but heartbreaking to see and hear horror stories of our neighbours and what they’re suffering through. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Unfortunally solutions cost money, and people wants to build houses and live in flood areas, when that floods are rare. All flood land can be calculated. And if we avaliate were the flood lands are, a lot of people have to leave their long stand family houses because they are situated in flood potential land. Its that around the world. People wills to live vs nature laws.
@@ricardoxavier827 I’ve read comments on a post I put out asking for river situ around us and they said everything looks good as a result of recent years improvement in the areas drain system / flood defences. They really worked we’ve been so very very lucky but we’re not in winter yet so I take nothing for granted.
@@ricardoxavier827 The "calculation" is only a probability calculation. Here in Germany and everywhere in middle Europe we have a lot potential dangerous areas... but we also have had flooding in areas that should have rather low odds to be hit by flash floods. So... just leaving actually doesnt solve the issue. More important is to PREPARE for (many) more flash floods in future. And yes - this areas with higher risk should even do more. But also most other regions in the world should be prepared. You remember Dubais flash flood a few month ago? Dubai is not supposed to high risk at all. The idea you could find a country with no risk just isn't helpful in what's coming to us in the next decades (which we caused btw).
14th October 1957 was a similarly horrific day for València. Back then it was the river Turia. València had long been the victim of flooding (Wikipedia estimates 75 floods between 1321 and 1897). The worst decisions were to build on flood plains.
They’ve said even the most seasoned meteorologists couldn’t have predicted the level of flooding and devastation. Is that true? In 2018 they said the exact same thing when 10 ppl were killed in Mallorca from the DANA which our family were also inside of and witnessed.
Even if they couldnt alert the exactt location it would have been more reasonable to warn everyone and be wrong about many regions than not warned at all
But they couldn't do that. The autonomic government of Valencia had dismantled the emergency system and moved € 140.000.000 to bullfighting. The AEMET sent messages advising of the imminent danger at 8 in the morning. This is what happens in Spain when the right wing are in power
The regional President Carlos Muñoz should resign. 1 They (proudly) shut down the Emergency Program. 2 At 13:00 on Wednesday he said the storm would Peter out by 1800. 3. At 1400 on Wednesday all public employees were sent home. 3. The Civil Alert went off at 20:00 on Wednesday. Many were driving back from work and already gloating in river roads by then. 4 The National Weather service announcement potential life threatening weather on the Wednesday 4 days before. On every level Carlos Muñoz is at fault.
I see difference in reportage of western "media" in covering floods or natural climaties in west and global south countries.... humane touch is missing in the later. Anyways affected people get back to normal lives ASAP.
This is a regular occurrence in Valencia. The same 'Cold drop' was responsible for the 1957 flood and Wikipedia states "A large number of floods have been recorded in Valencia, from 1321 to 1897. Up to 75 floods are estimated to have taken place in the seven centuries prior to the 1957 flood." So unless climate change was around in the year 1321 this was not caused by 'climate change'.
Cloud seeding is a type of weather modification that aims to change the amount or type of precipitation, mitigate hail or disperse fog. The usual objective is to increase rain or snow, either for its own sake or to prevent precipitation from occurring in days afterward. Wikipedia And we are deniers yeah ?
@@nemesissky9064 all semi desert lands of the world has that flash floods. The soil dont have trees to open up the soil, to be able to absorv and hold fast rain, and all the rain goes full speed in the sea direction. Fast solution: dig divertion channels like los angeles have. Expensive. Long term solution, plant trees and block rivers to forested lower land flood areas.
Already struggling with looting? God, we are just going to devour each other when climate change worsens and the global food supply chains break down huh....
Los angeles, california USA, did the solution long decades ago. Even on the holywood movies we see that solution being used on the movies. Its exists. Nothing new to be invented. Just expropriate land and dig the diverting channels. Tie the the rivers entry to force water divertion to the channels in a flood event. But that costs money.
As a European I would not want to pay for the reconstruction. Scientists have warned about these phenomena and the risks and yet more and more people are settling in the Valencia region. And when I hear the Prime Minister say: “we will rebuild Valencia as it was before” it is utter stupidity. He is not even capable of analyzing that his policy is a cause of these misfortunes and does not understand that when nature says stop concrete and construction near rivers then we must listen to it.
The effects of climate risks are known for decades. We talking and arguing about solutions for decades. Cooperations and their politicians playing games to deny a sustainable change. How many people have to die before we all change our energy consumption, landuse and resources consumption?
First recorded Gota Fría was in 19th Century and occur regularly. The 1957 incident near Barcelona caused 617 deaths. Too easy to blame climate change, rather take a look at the amount of urbanisation of the flood plain adjacent to the Albufera wet lands. This tragedy is more directly man made than looking to catastrophize climate change, instead question building development policy.
24'Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came and the winds blew, and beat upon that house and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matt 7
The population always expects authorities to baby sit them, we all have a smartphone in our pocket, wheather forecasts are available 24/7 and are extremely accurate, it is vital people check them every day, especially now with high unpredictability, and reports of wheather related tragedies around the world. They all knew right from the morning the risk this storm was posing, yet they point fingers and expect authorities to tell them the exact time their bedrooms will be flooded, in the meantime they carry on with their lives driving around, without a care in the world, countless videos of cars floating around with their lights on, May God have mercy on them...
It is so sad. You have the REAL conspiracy right in front of your eyes. 1% of the world wide population own 30-50% of wealth (depends on calculation cause the rich don't give much information about their assets). THIS is the conspiracy. Not some crazy BS.
Everyone is shocked, including the security forces. They have homes and families too. I just want to say how much I love the news readers' look. Her hair and outfit are amazing. You'd never see this in the USA.
Spain imposing arms embargo against Israel triggered the Abrahamic covenant. 7 days later, Spain was inundated by a deadly flood. Genesis 12:3 NKJV I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noe entered into the ark.
This was a cloudseeding HAARP project..vlc 2030 smart city project is out there in 197 pages..before implementatie you need to destroy the old to build the new...so there you have it.
Vikas you are too naive. Dubai had the worst flood this year, Brazil had one, that was pretty big, there was one massive flood in Germany, Texas in US had a big flood not too long ago. There was a flood in Vancouver Canada two weeks ago, not as big as Spain but not a normal rainy weather either. Means, there is climatic shift happening all over. There should be a serious discussion among climate experts and research studies to mitigate emerging challenges. As usual, technology along with advent of AI can help people to withstand with these new challenges. Also, we need to be prepared about forthcoming challenges. A quick model to look at is japan, how they have build certain buildings to mitigate with the frequent earthquakes that happens in Japan. Japan had a big earthquake of 7.6 Richter scale, and only few people died and very minimal damages. There was same Richter scale of earthquake in 2015 and pretty much turned the whole nation upside down, with massive deaths and severe infrastructure damage that took almost 2-3 yrs to recover.
Human will to settle on a spot, ignoring that is flood land soon or later, and they blame the government about nature? Generation after generation in all places of the world, people want to settle in floods lands and want to blame the government because the floods happen. Humans being humans in all nations of the world.
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My thoughts are with the people of Valencia and Malaga regions. It's heartbreaking to hear how many have lost their lives and/homes.
This storm was horrific. I never ever ever want to experience anything like this in my life ever again. The rainfall and lightning was overwhelming. Our area was saved extreme flooding unlike Valencia but heartbreaking to see and hear horror stories of our neighbours and what they’re suffering through. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Unfortunally solutions cost money, and people wants to build houses and live in flood areas, when that floods are rare.
All flood land can be calculated. And if we avaliate were the flood lands are, a lot of people have to leave their long stand family houses because they are situated in flood potential land.
Its that around the world. People wills to live vs nature laws.
Major populations concentrations can be protected diguing divertion channels like we see in los angeles usa.
@@ricardoxavier827 I’ve read comments on a post I put out asking for river situ around us and they said everything looks good as a result of recent years improvement in the areas drain system / flood defences. They really worked we’ve been so very very lucky but we’re not in winter yet so I take nothing for granted.
@@ricardoxavier827 The "calculation" is only a probability calculation. Here in Germany and everywhere in middle Europe we have a lot potential dangerous areas... but we also have had flooding in areas that should have rather low odds to be hit by flash floods.
So... just leaving actually doesnt solve the issue. More important is to PREPARE for (many) more flash floods in future. And yes - this areas with higher risk should even do more. But also most other regions in the world should be prepared.
You remember Dubais flash flood a few month ago? Dubai is not supposed to high risk at all.
The idea you could find a country with no risk just isn't helpful in what's coming to us in the next decades (which we caused btw).
14th October 1957 was a similarly horrific day for València. Back then it was the river Turia. València had long been the victim of flooding (Wikipedia estimates 75 floods between 1321 and 1897). The worst decisions were to build on flood plains.
Get used to this. Water levels are going up. All city's near water are at risk.
I feel that its best to focus more on providing food, water, shelter to the victims.
They should build a larger canal where flood water could flow in case of the rain and problem will be solved
They’ve said even the most seasoned meteorologists couldn’t have predicted the level of flooding and devastation. Is that true? In 2018 they said the exact same thing when 10 ppl were killed in Mallorca from the DANA which our family were also inside of and witnessed.
diging divertion channels cost more than escuse words.
Even if they couldnt alert the exactt location it would have been more reasonable to warn everyone and be wrong about many regions than not warned at all
But they couldn't do that. The autonomic government of Valencia had dismantled the emergency system and moved € 140.000.000 to bullfighting. The AEMET sent messages advising of the imminent danger at 8 in the morning. This is what happens in Spain when the right wing are in power
The regional President Carlos Muñoz should resign. 1 They (proudly) shut down the Emergency Program.
2 At 13:00 on Wednesday he said the storm would Peter out by 1800.
3. At 1400 on Wednesday all public employees were sent home.
3. The Civil Alert went off at 20:00 on Wednesday. Many were driving back from work and already gloating in river roads by then.
4 The National Weather service announcement potential life threatening weather on the Wednesday 4 days before.
On every level Carlos Muñoz is at fault.
Also interesting that the corse of the River Turia was altered in 1957.
Yet we humans keep building by flood plains!
I see difference in reportage of western "media" in covering floods or natural climaties in west and global south countries.... humane touch is missing in the later. Anyways affected people get back to normal lives ASAP.
"EU only ready to help" instead of sending in their SAR teams already??
This is a lot talk, not much action..
hear hear
USA + Russia + China, EU economic enemies, do less than EU. Before talk sh1t against EU, say who does better.
This is a regular occurrence in Valencia. The same 'Cold drop' was responsible for the 1957 flood and Wikipedia states "A large number of floods have been recorded in Valencia, from 1321 to 1897. Up to 75 floods are estimated to have taken place in the seven centuries prior to the 1957 flood." So unless climate change was around in the year 1321 this was not caused by 'climate change'.
I wonder in 5 years what will climate change deniers say😂
Easy...You were WRONG!😂😂😂
Blame it on the government as usual 🙄
You do know cloud seeding exists right ? Look it up and then look up what happened to Dubai
Cloud seeding is a type of weather modification that aims to change the amount or type of precipitation, mitigate hail or disperse fog. The usual objective is to increase rain or snow, either for its own sake or to prevent precipitation from occurring in days afterward. Wikipedia
And we are deniers yeah ?
@@nemesissky9064 all semi desert lands of the world has that flash floods. The soil dont have trees to open up the soil, to be able to absorv and hold fast rain, and all the rain goes full speed in the sea direction.
Fast solution: dig divertion channels like los angeles have. Expensive.
Long term solution, plant trees and block rivers to forested lower land flood areas.
Already struggling with looting? God, we are just going to devour each other when climate change worsens and the global food supply chains break down huh....
Los angeles, california USA, did the solution long decades ago. Even on the holywood movies we see that solution being used on the movies. Its exists. Nothing new to be invented. Just expropriate land and dig the diverting channels. Tie the the rivers entry to force water divertion to the channels in a flood event. But that costs money.
Farmers must accept to their farm land to be flooded to protect cities. A crop lost are much cheaper lost that a city to be flooded.
As a European I would not want to pay for the reconstruction. Scientists have warned about these phenomena and the risks and yet more and more people are settling in the Valencia region. And when I hear the Prime Minister say: “we will rebuild Valencia as it was before” it is utter stupidity. He is not even capable of analyzing that his policy is a cause of these misfortunes and does not understand that when nature says stop concrete and construction near rivers then we must listen to it.
I've never been to Spain, but their architectures look like Morocco and Latin America. Apparently their faces too.
The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plains
That has a good rhime to it.
The effects of climate risks are known for decades. We talking and arguing about solutions for decades. Cooperations and their politicians playing games to deny a sustainable change. How many people have to die before we all change our energy consumption, landuse and resources consumption?
very poor explanation of what really happened by the climate scientist. :-(
Montezuma's revenge
First recorded Gota Fría was in 19th Century and occur regularly. The 1957 incident near Barcelona caused 617 deaths. Too easy to blame climate change, rather take a look at the amount of urbanisation of the flood plain adjacent to the Albufera wet lands. This tragedy is more directly man made than looking to catastrophize climate change, instead question building development policy.
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Ukraine still will get more money, help/weapons than our friends from Spain :(
Tendran que subir los muros de ese acueducto y elevar las carreteras
24'Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came and the winds blew, and beat upon that house and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matt 7
Alhumdulillah
The population always expects authorities to baby sit them, we all have a smartphone in our pocket, wheather forecasts are available 24/7 and are extremely accurate, it is vital people check them every day, especially now with high unpredictability, and reports of wheather related tragedies around the world. They all knew right from the morning the risk this storm was posing, yet they point fingers and expect authorities to tell them the exact time their bedrooms will be flooded, in the meantime they carry on with their lives driving around, without a care in the world, countless videos of cars floating around with their lights on,
May God have mercy on them...
Weather Manipulation has been happening for a very long time.
Cut the BS.
How deeply embarrassing for you. You must work very hard to remain that ignorant
It is so sad. You have the REAL conspiracy right in front of your eyes. 1% of the world wide population own 30-50% of wealth (depends on calculation cause the rich don't give much information about their assets).
THIS is the conspiracy. Not some crazy BS.
Everyone is shocked, including the security forces. They have homes and families too. I just want to say how much I love the news readers' look. Her hair and outfit are amazing. You'd never see this in the USA.
What about her hair? What would be different in USA?
Spain imposing arms embargo against Israel triggered the Abrahamic covenant. 7 days later, Spain was inundated by a deadly flood.
Genesis 12:3 NKJV
I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed."
Some folks need more medicine than others...
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day Noe entered into the ark.
Man kann nicht mit den einen Mitleid haben und mit den anderen nicht. Die CO2-Emittenten müssen auch die Klimafolgen bezahlen. Und zwar rückwirkend
Hehe - ja klar... das reichste Prozent und insb. das reichste 0,1 % "bezahlen" garantiert ... ach ne... tun sie ja gar nicht. Ups.
Sad :(, global warming is real
This was a cloudseeding HAARP project..vlc 2030 smart city project is out there in 197 pages..before implementatie you need to destroy the old to build the new...so there you have it.
Build back better
People should be patience as this will get cleared shortly.
Vikas you are too naive. Dubai had the worst flood this year, Brazil had one, that was pretty big, there was one massive flood in Germany, Texas in US had a big flood not too long ago. There was a flood in Vancouver Canada two weeks ago, not as big as Spain but not a normal rainy weather either. Means, there is climatic shift happening all over. There should be a serious discussion among climate experts and research studies to mitigate emerging challenges. As usual, technology along with advent of AI can help people to withstand with these new challenges. Also, we need to be prepared about forthcoming challenges. A quick model to look at is japan, how they have build certain buildings to mitigate with the frequent earthquakes that happens in Japan. Japan had a big earthquake of 7.6 Richter scale, and only few people died and very minimal damages. There was same Richter scale of earthquake in 2015 and pretty much turned the whole nation upside down, with massive deaths and severe infrastructure damage that took almost 2-3 yrs to recover.
Looks like becoming another Sudan Nigeria Chad Pakistan in crises response.
Human will to settle on a spot, ignoring that is flood land soon or later, and they blame the government about nature?
Generation after generation in all places of the world, people want to settle in floods lands and want to blame the government because the floods happen.
Humans being humans in all nations of the world.
Karma
D q co*O karma??