Demographic decline: Greece faces alarming population collapse

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ย. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 3.2K

  • @DomnulSarb
    @DomnulSarb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +577

    >Population: collapsing
    >Land and house prices: skyrocketing
    Something isn't adding up according to a little concept known as "supply and demand"

    • @siddeshnaik2296
      @siddeshnaik2296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      Black money infusion paper money loosing it's value

    • @JohnsJohnson-ns5xm
      @JohnsJohnson-ns5xm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      US corporations

    • @nadmoi
      @nadmoi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      As villages depopulate, the remaining young people will move to the cities. So cities will continue to grow for some time and real estate there will become more expensive. It's like a sinking ship where some part is moving up above the water.

    • @JohnsJohnson-ns5xm
      @JohnsJohnson-ns5xm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @aidancollins1591 public records, Northern California and Southern California homes sales. Blackrock corporation alone owns 27% of all 2023 detached Home sales. Gives them incredible power on rental prices, resale values, etc. I don’t know where you’re at but here in California unless you pay cash for a house your contract is public knowledge don’t ask me why.

    • @Thom_Yorky
      @Thom_Yorky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      A lot of foreigners are buying properties.

  • @csanadvarga3622
    @csanadvarga3622 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1418

    dont worry the 6 day work week will help Greece to collapse faster. 6 day work week with 11% unemployment a joke

    • @learningmaster8060
      @learningmaster8060 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +112

      Europe was the poorest region on earth for 1000s of years due to a lack of resources and a bad climate. The Indian subcontinent and China used to be the richest regions on earth for 1000s of years till the 17th century. Then Europeans advanced in war, sea travel, and trade. This resulted in Europe acquiring huge wealth from India, parts of China, Asia, Africa, and Latin America. Till the 1950s, Europe was squeezing wealth from rich regions of the world, which made Europeans richer. Now that Europeans had huge wealth, they started celebrating their life. This continued for 60 years. But now with India, China, and other Asian powers back to their dominance, Europe is losing in all sectors of the world economy. European governments tried to save the European economy by bringing wealth from Asia by offering easy immigration, but that was not easy due to cultural conflicts. It would take a few more decades for Europe to transform into extreme poverty in a world dictated by Asian countries like China, India, Japan, and South Korea.

    • @baardagaam
      @baardagaam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@learningmaster8060 dude, China is already over the top, both demographically and also in terms of inventions
      The USA keeps on attracting the brightest people on earth and keeps its No1 position

    • @AdityaJape
      @AdityaJape 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@baardagaam countries don't like usa that's why bricks

    • @laikanbarth
      @laikanbarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@learningmaster8060USA & Europe made China rich by transferring all of their manufacturing to China so the owners of those manufacturing companies could get very, very wealthy off of the cheap labor and not having to pay for health insurance and other benefits. They got wealthier and kept donating to the politicians to keep their factories in China. Now in Vietnam and Mexico.

    • @JJ-vp3bd
      @JJ-vp3bd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Tell me why Poland and hungary aren't going through this

  • @r.c.8268
    @r.c.8268 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    nothing helps birthrates like high housing prices, low wages and high working hours

  • @cravingtuna1561
    @cravingtuna1561 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1062

    "Mr Primeminister our population is collapsing and no one wants to have kids. How should we respond?"
    "Increase the working hours"

    • @noneofyourbusiness5433
      @noneofyourbusiness5433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      yep.......the solution is more focused on the state rather than the family.

    • @alingard1
      @alingard1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      More tourists is the answer!!

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      well what did you expect, when the situation gets desperate people are going to have to deal with desperate measures. And you'll be working the 6 days age 75.

    • @PaulTheDawg
      @PaulTheDawg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      "Make an increase in water bills as well while you're at it"

    • @h.verheijen7872
      @h.verheijen7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      yes purely for economic reasons this Greek government wants more productivity per inhabitant. money money money makes the world go round. simple. and nothing new since Aristotelous.

  • @nickjacobs2846
    @nickjacobs2846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +793

    No surpises. I live here. After 10 years of economic depression and class war against the population, people cannot afford kids. People cannot even afford to have relationships. The working class is tired, impoverished and angry, with no end in sight.

    • @bravenewworld6709
      @bravenewworld6709 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That has nothing to do with economy. People dont make babies because the feminism, western women almost hate men and became aggressive, masculine, independent and with high standards.

    • @gabriellakadar
      @gabriellakadar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      Poor people living in the villages over 60 years ago had children. It's not about money. It's about choice, expectations, and birth control. Probably the poor people who had half a dozen children back in the 1950s given the option of birth control would not have had so many children either. Children used to be an asset. Now they are an expense.

    • @nickjacobs2846
      @nickjacobs2846 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      @@gabriellakadar The agricultural workers or peasantry actually NEEDED as many children as possible to help them work in the fields to earn their incomes, as such, children are seen as a net benefit to the family not a COST as they are seen in cities for a working class population.
      60 years ago lack of access to abortions, limited birth control and arranged (sometimes forced) marriages were serious issues facing women.
      Not to mention that the post WWII world was actually booming, especially in the West, so families who lives in cities could afford children and the economic future seemed bright.

    • @Highfiber123
      @Highfiber123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So the solution is to import unvented breeding age males from Africa?

    •  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      But, but, but, what about all those engineers, architects and doctors who come to Greece by boats from Africa?

  • @homyce
    @homyce 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    A Canadian friend of mine born in Canada to Greek parents. He speaks the language on a native level, visits Greece once a year, obsessed by his homeland too much that the furniture of his apartment is all in blue and white. He even goes to the Greek Orthodox church every Sunday! Despite all this, he has been waiting for years to get Greek citizenship, which he wants to move there permanently. Then they complain about declining population!

    • @dr.timothypatitsas7889
      @dr.timothypatitsas7889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      He should fire his immigration lawyer and get a better one. My friends got their citizenship in one year.

    • @homyce
      @homyce 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@dr.timothypatitsas7889 he doesn't have one and is trying to do it on his own, maybe that's the problem!

    • @dr.timothypatitsas7889
      @dr.timothypatitsas7889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@homyce Even if it costs $5,000 in attorney fees, think of all the benefits of being able to work in 90% of Europe!!

    • @homyce
      @homyce 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dr.timothypatitsas7889 exactly! I will tell him. Thanks a lot

    • @johngayfer6873
      @johngayfer6873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Surely the fact that he has Greek parents would automatically entitle him to Greek citizenship? Why many years long wait?

  • @JobzeyJobzey
    @JobzeyJobzey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +584

    Meanwhile many Greeks who live in Post Soviet countries are waiting for years to get chance to get Greek Citizenship, process is taking 10 years, if you want to attract immigrants, then first give chance to Greeks from Diaspora to come to Greece.
    I've applied for citizenship since 2015, up untill now process is going, during covid the ministry didn't even worked properly.
    Greek Bureaucracy is main reason for this

    • @williamMaezawa
      @williamMaezawa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greece just love the Chinese Communists you know because they need Chinese money

    • @egertroos-qh7hw
      @egertroos-qh7hw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Where do you live?

    • @williamMaezawa
      @williamMaezawa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chinese Communists will come and save Greece

    • @blakecampbell-taylor2865
      @blakecampbell-taylor2865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Australia has a bunch as well. Bring them home

    • @rudywooders9602
      @rudywooders9602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Greek Bureaucracy is a sophisticated tyrannical method

  • @村上りんね
    @村上りんね 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +425

    Same in Japan. There are just elders in rural areas.
    Only Tokyo is continuing to soak up young people as nutrients.

    • @Kaniala-l7s
      @Kaniala-l7s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      china is gonna buy their rural areas all out

    • @zinyang8213
      @zinyang8213 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Greetings from Greece

    • @redwhite_040
      @redwhite_040 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      Tokyo is attracting young people who want to make carreer, not baby (no time and finance for that)

    • @georgeioannou4371
      @georgeioannou4371 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Could you describe the current situation regarding population in Japan? I'm Greek and currently planning to make a new start in Japan, more specifically Hokkaido!

    • @村上りんね
      @村上りんね 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgeioannou4371
      Oh, are you? Then check TAKASHIIFROMJAPAN. Population is steadily declining in Sapporo, let alone others in Hokkaido.
      We Japanese are introverted, punctual, having lots of paperwork, they say. And the language is not easy.
      But motivated guy gets result. Good luck (^-^)

  • @phoenixhenson3689
    @phoenixhenson3689 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I think its the Politicians fault for raising the cost of living so much for locals while they live in a bubble unaffected

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The rich own the politicians, so blame them first.

    • @beaulieuc8910
      @beaulieuc8910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      many people don't actually want or like kids anyway, there is better birth control, women don't want to be lumbered with kids, doing most of the work and horrible pregnancy, childbirth, breast feeding, talking about the time, losing their mind, identity and freedom..

    • @fuzzyduck1989
      @fuzzyduck1989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@beaulieuc8910 And before they realize it, they would have become lonely childless old hags with no one to take care of them in old age!!

    • @phoenixhenson3689
      @phoenixhenson3689 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@beaulieuc8910 and staying broke

    • @petershaw6346
      @petershaw6346 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@fuzzyduck1989 no 🤣

  • @Pajaa37
    @Pajaa37 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +866

    this video literally could have been made ANYWHERE in Europe….

    • @tanner293
      @tanner293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      not true, but in many places yes

    • @andin3720
      @andin3720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      South and East Europe*

    • @colors6692
      @colors6692 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Not Ireland!!!

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Australia too but record big 👽 migration white race disappearing.

    • @yummydishes2279
      @yummydishes2279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      ​@@Eric-kn4ynwhat are you even saying?

  • @vasts1479
    @vasts1479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +352

    Low wages, expensive rents, high bills, lack of investments, 6 day working schedules, constant deterioration in public education and health care, unemployment and a government which is not only useless but also does not give a sh!t and pretends to wonder why the young well educated Greeks seek their future abroad, or even if they stay in Greece, will have just one child because they cannot support financially a bigger family. And all of this after 15 years of looting the Greeks with taxes, low cost labour and sell outs of public property (airports, public businesses, harbours, natural resources, etc). Greece is not only struggling with demographics, but with poverty, anxiety and depression.

    • @emrek.7391
      @emrek.7391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      What you described is exactly the same for Türkiye.And it seems to be getting worse every day.

    • @larryc1616
      @larryc1616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Nothing can be done. It's the Argentina way...

    • @erykahhoney588
      @erykahhoney588 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Sounds like America

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And most rightfully, hatred. Greetings from Patisia, Athens.

    • @giapata
      @giapata 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who works 6 days?

  • @fridaber6069
    @fridaber6069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Make it affordable to have kids and have decent standard of living and we will have kids. The biggest reason people are delaying kids is wage stagnation coupled with astronomical real estate costs. People just don't have financial security anymore.

    • @SK-kh2rs
      @SK-kh2rs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Not really. Norway has plenty of incentives and yet the birth rate is low. Plenty of people have money and yet have 1 at most. People see kids as a burden to them enjoying life. Most people dream of travelling the world. Much harder if you got kids to look after.

    • @jgdooley2003
      @jgdooley2003 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@SK-kh2rs We live in an age of perfect information and choices. Most people now realise that having kids is a sacrifice and , for many, an onerous burden too difficult to bear.
      Artificial forms of contraception and delaying marriage and other forms of pair formation and increasing infertility are also contributing to the problem.
      Another factor is the high standards expected of modern parents which were not the case in the past.

    • @dgh6g33gf
      @dgh6g33gf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Under contemporain capitalism, having kids is having expensive pets, as children don't work anymore and people do not live on farms but in cities.
      That is the economic reality of our system.

    • @dr3amboy3657
      @dr3amboy3657 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SK-kh2rsyep, I agree with this. The whole world is wealthier than it’s ever been and yet birth rates are down across the globe.
      Financials is one of many reasons for the low birth rates but it’s not the only answer fixing it won’t help. I know many couples who can afford kids and they just chose not to.

    • @kaznika6584
      @kaznika6584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dgh6g33gfThere are currently no capitalist countries in the world.

  • @korgmangeek
    @korgmangeek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +325

    Thank you Europe. We saved French and German banks. We converted the private to debt to public debt. We lost half a million young people with 50% cuts. We elected the party that put the country in debt. We stopped the agriculture production because Europe told us to do.
    We are the country for holidays. The EU plan is working fine.

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lazy bums have spoken up.
      Perhaps clean up your country first, and only then open your mouth?

    • @dibble2005
      @dibble2005 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly they did the same to Ireland. All our educated young people leave. They get out because governments hand over out country to vulture funds and parasite financial sectors.

    • @dariusalexandru9536
      @dariusalexandru9536 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      sure bro,whatever illusion helps you sleep better .

    • @korgmangeek
      @korgmangeek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      @@dariusalexandru9536 name one illusion.
      You don’t know the difference between public debt and private debt?

    • @jaunt3603
      @jaunt3603 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did Greece do anything wrong?

  • @godtable
    @godtable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +194

    My grandmother once told me, that we are rich compared to them in the past. And I told her she has no idea of the wealth she had in her hands back then. They didn't have almost any money, that's true. But they had freedom and a community supporting them. Most of the houses back then were build by family and relatives. Most had a piece of land and some animals to sustain themselves. And as a cherry on top, at my grandparent's village they had a tradition of caring for the elders and unable to work. The did that by Gothenburg the strongest men of the village and have them working on fields dedicated to the community with extra hours of work. I don't know if it's better or worse, but it's certainly different.

    • @tubelz
      @tubelz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      There is a lot more to the story of the good old days.

    • @antelopelol2865
      @antelopelol2865 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Materialism is affecting Europeans

    • @LilAligator
      @LilAligator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      We maybe richer in money yes but I can't eat paper.

    • @helenm5124
      @helenm5124 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In Greece there was no to little law or legal papers for property, thus it's all a big mess now. I for instance can't inherit the village house with my sister because there are no correct papers. The only way would be for the neighbours to do some processes along with us,but they'd rather keep it mixed up. So we're left with our hands tied. This is a similar story to so many in both villages and cities. If you ask me, I'm thi King of leaving to free myself from this bureaucratic madness

    • @godtable
      @godtable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@helenm5124 So your grandparents knew the neighbors. That's how it worked in Greece in the old days, If you want to keep it, you have to use it. And still nobody forces you to not go to your house. It's not yours, It's your grandparents, big deal. You will not be the first, and you will not be the last. If the papers you currently have are enough to connect you with the power grid, and water, everything is fine.
      Edit: You and I were taught to think in a certain way, In back then If someone died, and he had a property, When nobody claimed it for 10 years, anyone from the village could go and claim it for himself. It's a way of not wasting resources. They don't have papers because everyone knew each other.

  • @Thom_Yorky
    @Thom_Yorky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Just returned from Crete last night. My relatives are having the same problems. Low pay, work many hours, and their kids are going to college with the hopes of moving for a better life.

    • @taralynnhoffmann5831
      @taralynnhoffmann5831 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol and then they move to America or Canada. I can assure you both their costs and work load will double over here. Every time I go to my husband's family in Europe I get to hear how overworked they are, as they sit and enjoy their lives.

    • @orestis103
      @orestis103 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wanna go back to Greece when I settle down. All Greek Americans WHOSE WITH ME

    • @Thom_Yorky
      @Thom_Yorky หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orestis103 I would like to as well but the state of the healthcare system is concerning.

    • @orestis103
      @orestis103 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Thom_Yorky it is but the private health care system is decent as long as you have the funds for it. That’s the dream though, come to the states and make your money, buy some property and rent it out. Get a good enough passive income flow going and then you can move back to any Xorio you are from. It’s just a mindset I know it might be hard getting used to but if enough of us do it then it can be a good life, because I get it America is the land of opportunity, but you also have to come here and work your butt off for ages to pay rent. My mom’s friend who moved back to Greece near Athens got a place for 5,000 a YEAR! And if enough of us do it we can incentivize all the other Greeks to come back too 🙏🏻🇬🇷☦️

    • @Thom_Yorky
      @Thom_Yorky หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orestis103 i definitely hope that reality happens for me. Crete is such a beautiful place and we own property there. My family in Crete told me when i recently visited they there’s currently a doctor shortage. Many are leaving Crete because they can make a better income elsewhere.

  • @ssergium.4520
    @ssergium.4520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +234

    An 8 day work week would probably help!

    • @marcv2648
      @marcv2648 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      How about massive deregulation. Why can't Europeans ever deregulate. The economic suffocation is entirely due to excessive regulation of everything in life. The only thing you can do in Europe without permission is sit in a cafe or work in a cafe. Everything else is highly regulated or not allowed.

    • @jpakos6701
      @jpakos6701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Arbeit macht frei ....?

    • @ssergium.4520
      @ssergium.4520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@marcv2648 Firstly I was joking. Secondly what on earth are you talking about?

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@marcv2648
      Like what is not allowed?

    • @ssergium.4520
      @ssergium.4520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tomorrowneverdies567 I think working in a cafe isn’t lmao… exactly the opposite of what he said. I doubt you could just go and work there all day. They’d eventually ask you to leave 😅

  • @twlee1930
    @twlee1930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +297

    6-day workweek doesn't help either

    • @kohtalainenalias
      @kohtalainenalias 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      it will help the capitalists, the ruling class, the elite to accumulate and hoard even more absurd amount of wealth. The greed has no boundaries.

    • @acidtechno8545
      @acidtechno8545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      nor does the compulsory military service, many young men went to live and work abroad after the university, in order to avoid it

    • @User-r5g5f
      @User-r5g5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kohtalainenalias The socialists ran Greece into the ground.

    • @jpakos6701
      @jpakos6701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@acidtechno8545i dont blame them ...its not nice to return to the 1967-1974 era ( this is where the Greek army is in terms of mentality ) ...eat garbage and tons of sugar ....and NEVer really trained for anything

    • @giapata
      @giapata 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Who works 6 days?

  • @spyreytos
    @spyreytos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    From a country of 11M, close to 1M young people have LEFT the country in the last 15 years. There are literally hundreds of thousands of kids born to Greek parents living abroad. The country has evolved into one huge DEPRESSED HOTEL.
    THANK YOU EU, THANK YOU GREEK GOV.

    • @hrhr9664
      @hrhr9664 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      without EU, you were already a failed country.

    • @TheTruth-ko9ov
      @TheTruth-ko9ov 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's more about globalization, people now care about money and seeking the luxury life they are watching in social media more than they care about having kids

    • @jurateb.9794
      @jurateb.9794 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Lithuania had almost 1 million people who emigrated. The population is 3 times smaller then Greece. Now they started coming back as economy is improving. Maybe this will happen to Greece once the economy is better?

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Billionaires shouldn't exist and churches should pay a lot of taxes

    • @barondino4628
      @barondino4628 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@zrymillGreeks screwed themselves, they built their economy around low skill, low pay jobs and now complain they are too poor. Same thing in Italy, my country. It's too easy to blame "evil multinationals", "capitalism", "the EU", Soros, ... but southern europeans decided to built their economy around making pizza, gyros and paella to rich north europeans or north americans tourists that work in finance. You reap what you saw.

  • @richardsheppard3961
    @richardsheppard3961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +103

    In Greece an empty derelict house is advertised for 60-100k euro while the same property in Northern Italy woll cost you 1 euro. They rather hold out for crazy unrealistic prices so the villages die out. Shame.

    • @marcv2648
      @marcv2648 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Well even if you buy it, you are not allowed to do anything with it other than try to restore it. Everything is over-regulated and taxed. You aren't allowed to do anything new or different. If you manage to jump through all the regulations then you are sucked dry in taxes.

    • @Alexander-rr6yn
      @Alexander-rr6yn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Those properties are almost entirely in the south of Italy.

    • @seancaird526
      @seancaird526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      North as well.

    • @blueamenaa749
      @blueamenaa749 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same in rural parts of France. It's all collapsing. I cant even put solar panels because there s an old church near the house. I gave up..
      There s no point...

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Italy isn t doing much better on the fertlity side...
      Cheap house in the boonies with no work, no infrastructures, no services etc.. isn t a "fix".

  • @matrixberzins465
    @matrixberzins465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    It's a problem not only for Greece but for all of Europe! Some will say that countries like Ireland, UK, France, Germany and few more don't have such problems - but they have - the birth rate is low and they keep up they demographic only with immigrants from Africa and Asia!

    • @h.verheijen7872
      @h.verheijen7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      but their economies are in a much healthier state by creating jobs with descent wages

    • @matrixberzins465
      @matrixberzins465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@h.verheijen7872 birth rate is not about better economy - Africa birth rate is far more better then in Europe overall. That's the main problem - there is no country in Europe who found solution for this problem yet.
      Higher immigration bring a lot of problems what Greece don't have - compare to West Europe - I didn't heard of terrorist activity in Greece but we know it is a problem in Belgium, France, Germany and many other countries. Even if family move from Greece to United Kingdom - they anyway can't afford to buy house in UK.

    • @laikanbarth
      @laikanbarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@matrixberzins465You made some very good and interesting points!!

    • @TheOwlsarewatching606
      @TheOwlsarewatching606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      IT IS CONSIDERABLY MORE COMPLEX THAN YOU SUGGEST.

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@matrixberzins465
      And yet it is greek people who immigrate to western Europe and not the opposite.

  • @eutha6
    @eutha6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    This is happening in many countries- the elephant in the room that is not discussed is Wealth Inequality-

    • @susanplatt5331
      @susanplatt5331 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huge part of it but so is the inequality that it's all on the woman. Men need to be better too.

    • @swojnowski8214
      @swojnowski8214 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      growing debt that cant be repaid, cuts will continue, so will impoverishment, high taxes, fascism and eventually a war.

    • @someblokecalleddave1
      @someblokecalleddave1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@swojnowski8214 Yep - it does look that way and it seems people are walking into it blindly. Meanwhile the ultra-wealthy will become exponentially wealthier.

  • @mohammedabdullah4602
    @mohammedabdullah4602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    The real population of Greece is not 10 million, but less than 8 million, a third of whom are elderly, as the number of births last year was 70k

    • @georgiosdoumas2446
      @georgiosdoumas2446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That is what I also think, and I am sure that in the statistics of the birth rates, the officials are including births of immigrants and maybe even illegal immigrants, so the births of actual Greeks are even less per year that the numbers published.

    • @muhammad-bin-american
      @muhammad-bin-american 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow!!!

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@georgiosdoumas2446 ofc they include immigrants, if they live in the country they are part of the population.

  • @cartesian_doubt6230
    @cartesian_doubt6230 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    Greece is literally dying. The Greeks are doing to themselves what no foreign enemy could do. Literally exterminating themselves.

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Nothing lasts forever. Take a look at ancient history. Where are the Hittites? The Akkadians? The Minoans? Incans, Mayans. All gone. Eventually it will be our turn. Can’t fight the tides of history.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      They are paying enormous amounts to the elderly in retirement benefits, health care and other programs, and taxing young people to the max to try to pay for that.

    • @quand_meme
      @quand_meme 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@plumeria66 Every species becomes extinct at some point. On average, it takes 4 million years.

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@quand_meme Good point. Bleak but true.

    • @StrangeAttractor
      @StrangeAttractor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@plumeria66but Europe isn’t dying because of colonisation or war or drought or natural disasters. It’s dying because modern women have priced themselves out of the market. Nobody seems to want to talk about that, though.

  • @artmaknev3738
    @artmaknev3738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Almost every Greek I spoke with, always brings up that the Greeks are responsible for modern world, that they invented this and that, the whole system of democracy is thanks to Greece, but they never seem to know what to do now, yes they were great 2000 years ago, but now their country is a mess and they don't know what to do to fix it.
    I think they should heavily switch to solar energy to harness the 360 days of sun that they have each year, at least to solve one issue, then provide incentives for people to buy and renovate the villages, concentrate on education of digital economies so people can work from home and don't need to live in an overcrowded over priced cities, without any incentive and innovation nothing will happen.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      In many parts of the United States, cultural elites are busy abandoning that heritage and replacing it with aboriginal or African culture. We are training ourselves to be barbarians again.

    • @MrAmhara
      @MrAmhara 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Cities are the key to civilization. Rural life isn’t it.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@MrAmhara Rural lands and people exist whether cities exist or NOT. Cities are derivative of rural resources and agriculture.

    • @dirkscott5410
      @dirkscott5410 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      And the apologists for democracy always fail to mention that only the property owning men had a vote, not the slaves or the women or poorer men. Same with the original US constitution.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Rural life is the key to civilization. You can't have cities without it.

  • @greeksful
    @greeksful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Such a beautiful country like Greece... It's a so sad situation. Such a shame.

    • @nicolaeceausescu6049
      @nicolaeceausescu6049 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what is sad?? greece is still beautiful that doesnt change

    • @greeksful
      @greeksful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@nicolaeceausescu6049 People have to leave this sunny, historical, beautiful country for money.

    • @rex_schd
      @rex_schd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      To be honest . Low in people are the main reason it is beautiful .

    • @greeksful
      @greeksful 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rex_schd it is a gift maybe

    • @rex_schd
      @rex_schd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@greeksful Not may be . defintly it is a gift . look at the old footage of London and current London street . Once photos of London streets are sold as wallpaper for house decoration now their streets look like pakistan

  • @Takh1
    @Takh1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    what do you expect from a country that has rock-bottom wages, weak employment laws and has now implemented a 6-day work week!

    • @Nicko-eb9kr
      @Nicko-eb9kr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how much is the minimum wage in Greece?

    • @NorceCodine
      @NorceCodine 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      6 day workweek - Greeks call in 2 sick days = 4 day work week!

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, but think about the shareholders, how else were they going to buy a new yacht?
      You insensitive dork. 😅
      Greek leaders get their priorities right, first the capital owners and then... We ll see.

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Nicko-eb9kr 830 euro gross (before taxes)

    • @Nicko-eb9kr
      @Nicko-eb9kr หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@StefanosP208 very low. I am half Greek. I was planning to move to Greece in the near future but it seems I won't be able to survive.

  • @johnny-161
    @johnny-161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is not really a surprise for anyone familiar with greek economy. A manufactured crisis, 10+ years of austerity made the working class disappear, shrinked the so-callled middle class. Greece has no industry , really, apart from tourism. People are leaving for abroad. Tourism works as a cash cow for the mafia controlled islands like Mykonos and Santorini. As time goes by, the number of greeks that can afford a vacation is decreasing on an important rate. Rural areas and villages are also being abandoned. No one has an economic benefit to live on a village anymore since farming for example does not bring revenue. Immigrants, who Greece chased and demonised so much in the last few years also don't want to build a life here. Those who do come, want to leave instantly since the big cities do not offer humane conditions and hope for a new life. As for the life in Athens? rent crisis, traffic issues, basically no parks or green in general and the salaries are not that good even for well-paid professions when compared to other EU members.

  • @napoleon8891
    @napoleon8891 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    In addition to all of the things said in the video, Greece sadly suffers from another important issue that has alienated many young Greeks and maybe forced them to leave. It is called Nepotism and unfortunately it is the primary way of either finding a job or getting anything done in Greece really. If you do not have the right connections or know the right people it gets increasingly hard to be able to live a respectable and comfortable life. This played a key role in the brain drain that is happening in the country.

    • @vintagejaki751
      @vintagejaki751 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Similar to Italy.

  • @jacekicksass
    @jacekicksass 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    This is what austerity does to a nation. Reject IMF and the World Bank, they will hollow out your country.

    • @davidburke2697
      @davidburke2697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      debt based system, thank the small hat tribe and their parasitic banking system.....

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Capitalism.
      Late stage does that everywhere.
      Concentration of wealth, growing inequalities and worsened public fundings leads to the 99% not being able to afford kids.
      That s for greece, but also korea, argentina, the US, japan, the redt of the EU etc...
      Same cause, same effects.

    • @Chadrick2
      @Chadrick2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@etienne8110 so lets bring in communism? No we need to remove corrupt leaders instead of blaming everything on capitalism just stick to capitalism and make sure who to control who is in charge.

    • @ColdHardTruthNews
      @ColdHardTruthNews 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greeks prefer to remain independent. Away from European influence.

    • @Chadrick2
      @Chadrick2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@etienne8110 This is liberals not capitalism.

  • @Fisarmonica23
    @Fisarmonica23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This story could also be about southern Italy.

    • @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z
      @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The difference, my friend, is the sheer numerical superiority of Italians to Greeks.

  • @JoeRogansGutBiome
    @JoeRogansGutBiome 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +123

    Whats crazy is greece did not have a war or dictator. They had a democratically elected govt that caused all these problems.

    • @MrInsanityplea
      @MrInsanityplea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And they banned the party that had the solution, nice democracy

    • @jokester3076
      @jokester3076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a dictatorship in Greece from 1967-1974

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Not democratic*

    • @squiddymute
      @squiddymute 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      guess again

    • @jokester3076
      @jokester3076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      TH-cam deleted my comment, because I mentioned the junta.

  • @oceanwave4502
    @oceanwave4502 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    Greece is heavily indebted. Who is gonna pay the debt if the population gets old and dies out?

    • @etziowingeler3173
      @etziowingeler3173 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Debt of a state is not comparable with private debt. This argument is nonsense

    • @adlozi
      @adlozi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Those who created the debt: EU.

    • @tobiisiba1641
      @tobiisiba1641 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not the migrants for sure.

    • @swojnowski453
      @swojnowski453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@etziowingeler3173 but the markets want the state believe that's the case. If you do not want to play the game, take more debt you will be severely punished, asset stripped and forced to introduce further rounds of austerity.

    • @swojnowski453
      @swojnowski453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adlozi the debt was created by those who do not pay taxes. The 1% who never pay taxes, who take what they can and stash it in tax heavens, the oligarchs who use the environment the government provides but never help to maintain it, the patriots who speak laud but never contribute or walk the walk. Population collapse is purely the result of a class war and the rich are winning it hands down.

  • @susansmith493
    @susansmith493 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Many countries are experiencing the same.

  • @jeremiahsmith2316
    @jeremiahsmith2316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    The biggest contributing factor in my opinion and experience in living in Greece is corruption and incompetency in the government. This trickles down to businesses then it trickles down to the taxpaper who pays high taxes for horrible services.
    Why stay when you can move elsewhere and make 4 times much money for the same amount of work.

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greeks are the contributing factors.
      Nobody else but Greeks are to blame.

    • @kenbob1071
      @kenbob1071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The biggest contributing factor imo is income inequality brought on by greedy, power-hungry people and businesses. They lobby and corrupt gov't to get the laws made in their favor at the expense of the lowly taxpayer who then has to make up the difference.

    • @TheSwissChalet
      @TheSwissChalet 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep. Doesn't take Einstein to figure it out...not sure why so many still can't.

  • @davidhamilton7780
    @davidhamilton7780 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    Unfortunately the young Greeks are being asked to pay the bills for a society which lived in deficit for many, many years. Tax avoidance, and early retirement with comfortable state pensions were the way of life for many and the depths of the problem were exposed after Goldman Sachs managed to hide vast amounts of state debt and the country was admitted to the Eurozone.
    It is very difficult to imagine an escape from the current situation which does not inflict much more pain before showing benefits.

    • @williamMaezawa
      @williamMaezawa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Chinese Communists will come and rescue Greece

    • @alexrenn2479
      @alexrenn2479 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Eurocrisis occurred because greedy European banks made toxic investments on Wall St NY USA and when that collapsed due to subprime mortgage scandal, they all literally went bankrupt and took Europe down with them. We know in hindsight now what happened, socialism and corporate welfare for the banks, debt and austerity for the common people. Stop spreading the same BS they told us about the collapse of Greece and other countries, we know the truth now. They could write-off the debts for all countries, just like they did for the big banks, but the greedy elite want to reinforce their power structures.

    • @tweetyericsson
      @tweetyericsson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No that's an old made up narrative. EU imposed austerity measures is the real cancer here.

    • @MeMe-cz6pk
      @MeMe-cz6pk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Finally someone gets what went wrong. What young person wants to be stuck with the previous generations DEBT GREED and CORRUPTION.
      Its a bit of Karma. The young leave and those that created the problem get to live with the consequences.

    • @silotx
      @silotx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Tax avoidance and early retirement in Greece was a thing for a small percentage of the population but that money is nothing compared to the amount of money that the 1% made and still makes in Greece by having deep ties to the government and abusing that relationship to funnel public money mainly from loans into their pockets.

  • @jones6119
    @jones6119 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my Greek family so much. The troubles they have endured over the years still left them kind, warm and full of sentimental affection for their families. Our small village has closed the school, everyone left is old. My tears for them and the loss.

  • @MuonRay
    @MuonRay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Spain is not far behind this situation.

    • @lucius1976
      @lucius1976 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I disagree with that. Sure, they have a very low birth rate too. But, they have immigration from Latin America and Northern Europe to offset that. Immigration that could potentially even increase. Since most Latin American immigrants already speak Spanish they are easily integrated.

    • @MuonRay
      @MuonRay วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lucius1976 those are fair points, I wouldn't dispute them however I would say its in the cities where immigration is happening not the countryside which is clearly being depopulated by an internal shift in population

  • @AlexM-t6h
    @AlexM-t6h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    This could apply to Greece, Italy, most of the Balkans, the Nordic country, Russia...

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ..The US, Canada, Australia, NZ, France, Germany, the UK, etc.

    • @raisarwanath4484
      @raisarwanath4484 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@tomorrowneverdies567no western europe amrrica and canada australia new zealand have position natural population growth.

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@raisarwanath4484
      Of course because they brought more immigr. who make the children, than Greece, Italy and the Balkans did.
      And if you take only the natives, native people in western Europe, America and Canada have a natural population decline, not growth.

    • @matrixberzins465
      @matrixberzins465 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@raisarwanath4484 by immigration from Asia and Africa - but locals are dying out. Birth rate in Germany is so low that Germans in Germany become less and less each year. yes Greece can do as France, UK or Germany did - just open borders for people from Africa and say - hey we fixed demographic problem but in reality French, brits and Germans slowly wannish in they own country!

    • @NeygarzruinedAmerica
      @NeygarzruinedAmerica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet somehow the muslims do it

  • @pauldolman7487
    @pauldolman7487 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Greece should encourage jobs that work well from home and increase internet connection for people to work online.

    • @palmshoot
      @palmshoot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@superconsensuel3869That sentence makes no sense.

    • @palmshoot
      @palmshoot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@superconsensuel3869 First, remote jobs predated the pandemic. Second, Twitter ran into major technical problems after they fired folks. Finally, Twitter is worth less now than when Musk bought it.

  • @John-qd5of
    @John-qd5of 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    If Greece hadn't joined the Euro, these problems would be easier to handle. The advantages of the Euro included a common pricing system, and greater convenience caused by not needing to exchange currency. The weakness was that countries like Greece were exposed to extreme booms and busts. German investors were attracted to what looked like real growth in southern Europe. But it was a speculative BUBBLE. Greece found that when the bubble burst, they were no longer allowed to devalue the Euro. Even worse, Euro bonds did not exist. So Greece had no choice but to injure itself for years in order to balance the books. If Greece had kept the drachma, problems would not be this bad.

    • @hillwalker8741
      @hillwalker8741 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah - Euro forced higher prices in Spain - too expensive now

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hillwalker8741tbf euro forced higher prices everywhere.
      Only the germans with their deutsch mark benefitted from a lower euro comparatively. They nuked europe to sell a bit more cars...

    • @Aiolosz
      @Aiolosz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      few understand this

    • @kingmaafa120
      @kingmaafa120 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was there I saw the writing on the wall 👎

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If greece hadn't joined the euro, they would be speaking turkish language today

  • @stamatisloukas8544
    @stamatisloukas8544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    There is no bright future in suburban places in Greece, especially small islands like Chios. I come from one, and its not like it used to be when i was a kid 15 years ago. My plan is to move abroad and if I ever start a family we will of course come and visit for vacation, but thats it. Big cities like Athens, Thessaloniki etc, are also struggling as well. I'm afraid that in 100-200 years, almost every tradition and culture of the small villages will be lost in time and never to be found again... and that thought scares me and saddens me because there a lot of villages in Greece and every single one is unique in its own way. It's a genocide and a crime.

    • @2msvalkyrie529
      @2msvalkyrie529 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well said my friend ! But what is to be done.?? Greece full of 3 rd world immigrants who don't know or care about
      Greek Culture or History...???
      That is the politicians answer..?!?!?

    • @georgiosdoumas2446
      @georgiosdoumas2446 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Γιατί να μην μπορέσεις να μείνεις στο χωριό, και να κάνεις παιδιά εκεί (αν βρεις γυναίκα, Ελληνίδα κατα προτίμηση) ? Δεν θα ήταν ωραία τα παιδιά σου να περάσουν τις ίδιες παιδικές εμπειρίες που πέρασες κι εσύ, με βόλτες στην φύση, και στην παραλία? Καλύτερα απο το να μεγαλώνουν σε αστικό κέντρο (εγώ στην ΑΘήνα μεγάλωσα, και ξέρω πόσο άσχημα είναι). Τι επάγγελμα κάνεις? Πώς οι προγονοι μας ζούσαν επι αιώνες και χιλιετίες στα χωριά, και μάλιστα σε εποχές που ήταν υπο Ρωμαική ή Τουρκική διοίκηση?

    • @stamatisloukas8544
      @stamatisloukas8544 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgiosdoumas2446 μπορούν να μεγαλώσουν σε επαρχία στο εξωτερικό. Εννοείται θα ήταν ωραία, αλλά δεν υπάρχει πλέον αυτό που έζησα εγώ. Έχει χαθεί. Είναι ανύπαρκτο.

  • @debrak3594
    @debrak3594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe this is happening all over the world. In the Us many small towns fading. Also India. Are the Greek islands experiencing water shortages like Sardinia?

  • @IIlines
    @IIlines 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thank you Europe for saving Greece out of the economical crisis, your measures will be unforgettable

    • @h.verheijen7872
      @h.verheijen7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and special thanks to your self chosen nepotistic Greek governments who ruined it all for future generations

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Europe did all they could, but the stupidity of the average Greek citizen prevailed. Some people will never learn

  • @johnh.backensto5416
    @johnh.backensto5416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    My whole life, all I ever heard was how the human race was overpopulating the planet. So in the past several years all we're talking about is how population growth is decelerating. Come on already 😢

    • @swojnowski453
      @swojnowski453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it has started on the peripheries, where debt is high, prospects low and politicians inept. Cities, or markets I should say, are busier than ever.

    • @chriswatson1698
      @chriswatson1698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Africans are still multiplying like rabbits and they all want to move to Europe or the UK. The world's population is still growing and isn't expected to level off for decades.

    • @enhancedutility266
      @enhancedutility266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Same that's why I don't feel sorry for these countries that signed up for this garbage social engineering project that's their own fault they reap what they sow

    • @pwp8737
      @pwp8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      a shrinking population is far more dangerous than a fast growing one, in different ways.

    • @aetherion7
      @aetherion7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Exactly, the problem is overpopulation. Its a third world-thing as well to have overpopulation problem. We should not have that in Europe.

  • @sianefer-ptah1258
    @sianefer-ptah1258 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Although Greece is suffering, I don't see how moving to the States will help. We're being crushed as well, by grocery costs and rent (and of course we must pay for schooling and medical bills that are absolutely atrocious), and a minimum wage that would not help a squirrel 🐿️.

  • @paquitoignacio3449
    @paquitoignacio3449 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    In China, South Korea, other countries have lower birth rate due to expensive, housing, health insurance, day care center.

    • @KarelNg
      @KarelNg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good idea for Chinese imigrate to Greece for developing businesses at there, good environment and warm people

    • @DemosthenesKar
      @DemosthenesKar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No, its not that, its overworking first that leaves no time to find a partner, marry, raise multiple children and then reasons like that in china its the norm to have one child and in korea there is a huge political disparity and violent rhetoric between men and women

    • @MrAmhara
      @MrAmhara 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually the birth rates are relatively similar. At least China is doing something about it.

    • @beaulieuc8910
      @beaulieuc8910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and many women don't want kids anyway

    • @Michael-ss7pc
      @Michael-ss7pc หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@DemosthenesKarI have many Korean friends. Most can't even get a gf. That's the number 1 factor followed by everything else.

  • @paquitoignacio3449
    @paquitoignacio3449 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

    The decline of population is due to cost of raising a family, unless the government subsidized housing, child care, education and give financial support to a growing population.

    • @swojnowski453
      @swojnowski453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Subsidising is not an answer. The basics of life have to be re-nationalized and made affordable. If everything is a commodity and wages are stagnant there is no hope for anybody but the 1% of the richest. The state has to take control of what's going on in the country or there will be no future. The country has been sold to the rich. Population collapse is the outcome.

    • @brigittelikeslanguages8916
      @brigittelikeslanguages8916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys should hear what I heard from Jehovah's witnesses.😔 ( I'm not a witness) . But they preach that the world is in the evils' hands. İn the last days pestilences/ diseases and more wars will come. So they want to reduce population. That's why governments all across the world spend more money on military than on education!

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      No, I am afraid it is not due to the cost of raising a family. It is due to the fact that most people like to have their chosen entertainment (like watching TH-cam videos), instead of raising up children. I include myself in this. I prefer watching TH-cam videos (I love watching TH-cam videos all day) instead of raising 3 children.
      There are also other ideological reasons why I would not make more than 1 children here, related to quality of phenotype of people inhabiting the world.
      Greetings from Greece.

    • @brigittelikeslanguages8916
      @brigittelikeslanguages8916 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomorrowneverdies567 hello, I also prefer watching TH-cam videos all day long than raising children. Especially as the world is so corrupt and evil, life has no point, it is just suffering in vain.

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@brigittelikeslanguages8916 I do not believe that the world is more corrupt and evil than it was 100 years ago. What I believe, is that more people now dislike the actions of politicians, than 100 years ago, also because of an obvious difference in morality (between politicians and "simple" people). But this is not the most important reason why we have this underfertility I'm afraid. If we baned the internet now, people would continue to dislike politicians tomorrow. But they would also start making 3-4 children each, in order not to be bored.

  • @OXI28101941
    @OXI28101941 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Villages have been emptying into the cities since the 50’s, as the first interviewee says. Better to speak to young people in the cities, and whether they see their future in the country. A far more worrying trend.

  • @MikeKay1978
    @MikeKay1978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I read a month ago that greece introduced 6 working day week. In the same week a greek recruiter wrote to me asking me to explore opportunities in greece.
    I love greece, nice people good food fabulous scenery. I would actually consider moving there but a 6 weeks working week with high taxes and a low salary will not do it for me.
    It is obvious that the greeks are now trying to make up for something. And instead of making it attractive to move to greece they have decided to punish the people further so that the politicians can continue as before a bit longer.
    Greece in not ready for change yet.

    • @a.tartist
      @a.tartist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Dude the 6 day work, you got it all wrong, it's still 5/7. It's only for some businesses 6/7. 95% of the workforce has nothing changed for us, we still work 40hours per week

    • @kathya1956
      @kathya1956 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good food if you make it at home. I went for holidays this summer and the food, oh my gosh. Not good

    • @MikeKay1978
      @MikeKay1978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kathya1956 Really? I have gone twice and everytime the general level of food was very good. of course there are some bad restaurant here and there, but if you ask around and go to familiy owned known restaurants they were absolutely fine.

    • @MikeKay1978
      @MikeKay1978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@a.tartist Good to know, maybe I should reply the mail from the recruiter then.

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no 6 day working week. Its just misinformation for views and drama

  • @leonardgrant6876
    @leonardgrant6876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    The government demonstrating a mandate to focus on the demographic crisis is a good joke. What can they do about it, travel back in time, and tell the mothers to have more children?

    • @jager6863
      @jager6863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Well there is a lot that can be done. But they won't do it. Bye, Bye Greece. Thanks for the good food.

    • @jgdooley2003
      @jgdooley2003 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Many recent countries had bans on artificial forms of contraception and shunned single people and members of the gay community. Large families and early marriages were encouraged by social intimidation and force. Bans on married women working were commonplace. This happened in Nazi Germany and other right-wing countries.

    • @SeaJay_Oceans
      @SeaJay_Oceans หลายเดือนก่อน

      cloning

  • @goranvuletic8873
    @goranvuletic8873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A "pide", which in Turkey costs about $2-3, you have to pay $10 in Thessaloniki. Outrageous!

  • @swedemartyrsonswade
    @swedemartyrsonswade 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Richer countries are becoming less and more poor countries are booming In terms of population. The Irony of being poor and unproductive.

    • @fanniinnanetguy653
      @fanniinnanetguy653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Poorer countries are hardly booming anymore at this point. Many of them have below replacement birth rate.

    • @loukas_gr
      @loukas_gr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Funny that a lot of these societies that are booming are religion driven ones (muslim mostly), where people are often misused and forced to flee to other countries that strive to survive with better living conditions. Those poor - but birth thriving - countries also seem to have little contact to the global environmental impacts and the other dangers of overpopulation on global scale (i.e. consumption on less natural resources).
      Do we want less and well-being or more and unbearable?

    • @RM-mm1lz
      @RM-mm1lz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good point. Don't forget that demography is destiny.

    • @idsavo
      @idsavo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Greece's most wealth is distributed into few people and companies.
      The irony of being ignorant.

    • @laikanbarth
      @laikanbarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Having a large population won’t make you successful or make the economy better. If that were true then places like Africa wouldn’t still be struggling.

  • @anniesshenanigans3815
    @anniesshenanigans3815 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    same will happen here in the US. Look at all the 'digital nomads" traveling abroad because the cost of actually living here is ridiculous. You can survive, but you cannot 'live'.

    • @samaya9992
      @samaya9992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right but they are all American jobs. Greeks can't even be digital nomads with 11% unemployment.

    • @MrAmhara
      @MrAmhara 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The US is worse. Immigration hides the decline in the native born population.

    • @dgh6g33gf
      @dgh6g33gf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Normal working class people cannot afford to be digital nomads, you are talking about a small sliver of the remaining middle class, this is a cultural phenomenon and isn't yet a big issue for countries. I don't think its a big economical factor atm.

    • @anniesshenanigans3815
      @anniesshenanigans3815 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dgh6g33gf a lot of younger people are looking at it. Maybe not now, but in the future.. my original comment was about the trend in the US, that it's headed in the same direction as Greece. If people go digital and move away from the US, then the local tax base will decline just as it has in Greece.

    • @dgh6g33gf
      @dgh6g33gf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anniesshenanigans3815 I am in Canada and its very big here too among young professionnals with money.
      I know people who would love to do it but can't afford it, that is going to be the case of the majority who will end up considering it imo.

  • @tandrichter
    @tandrichter 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A few years , ago the British publication , the Economist, did a study of Greece and the reasons behind its economic collapse. The society, they found, was and is gerontocratic, the younger generations being unable to run businesses or be in politics, there's cronyism and bribery to the highest degree when it comes to getting in Greek universities with many young people having to go overseas to be able to afford higher education, a fact that has a roll on effect on the country, its future innovation ability, its technology and economic development. The younger generations that were simply pushed out of Greece by the gerontocrats sadly never return. No wonder the country stats record 2 deaths for one birth. Change the mentality, and you will have a future as a country

  • @Psychophski
    @Psychophski 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Greece suffers of many many years deep, corrupted politicians and exhaustive austerity measures, insane taxes and poor quality of life! Athens is just a big village...
    Nowadays that many people have traveled have witnessed how a friendly city in Europe is... Greece has bad roads, mostly uneven pavements, no cycling infrastructure, no parks, no rivers, low maintenance...it's all coffee shops, fast food and bars... Low wages with very high demands, still in seasonal jobs the request is to work 7 days a week, 10+ hours a day... of course no one will stay as resident to this absurd holiday place.

  • @adw6894
    @adw6894 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    a growing population is disastrous unless you are a capitalist who wants cheap labour and as many customers as possible.

    • @TheDragonofRevelation
      @TheDragonofRevelation 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So socialism and eugenics go hand in hand? Color me shocked!

  • @carols6800
    @carols6800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Greece has been talking about this issue for 12 years, yet they have done nothing! So many young people have left! I worked in Greece for six months.

  • @o_o825
    @o_o825 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Life in America is better than they imagined? That’s not what many of Europeans think…

    • @pwp8737
      @pwp8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Perfect it's not, but the economy is growing and for many, though not all there is a comfortable life. What constitutes a good life is different for everyone. To each his own.

    • @afctaylor12
      @afctaylor12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Most People wouldn't consider Greece as European. Sure part of Europe but for majority it history for last 500 year it was a third world country ruled by dictators. It's only because of eu that Greece Hungary Croatia are not third world dictator

    • @Chris68385
      @Chris68385 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Greece is very European and you’re just having hallucinations. It seems that you really ignore history and the sequence of historical facts and events.

    • @GiantROBLOXvor
      @GiantROBLOXvor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@afctaylor12 "Western values" literally originated in Greece

    • @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588
      @ousarlxsfjsbvbg8588 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@afctaylor12you cannot be this stupid, it’s 10:00

  • @history_repeats8201
    @history_repeats8201 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    Europe needs a long term strategy to remain an economic force. Uncontrolled migration cannot be a substitute. There is is still time to act

    • @generalbenjaminarrola340
      @generalbenjaminarrola340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Não tem tempo pra agir, tudo tem começo meio e fim, a Europa chegou no seu fim de poder 😂

    • @history_repeats8201
      @history_repeats8201 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@generalbenjaminarrola340 Foi exactamente isso que um estúpido general otomano disse fora dos muros de Viena. E então apareceu a cavalaria polonesa.
      O poder da Europa reside na persistência intemporal de uma civilização superior. Não tem nada a ver com números. A China tem mais gente do que a Europa e forma mais engenheiros, MAS os centros de desenvolvimento de todos os principais fabricantes chineses estão na Europa. Então continue sonhando!!!!

    • @halfpakichick
      @halfpakichick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@generalbenjaminarrola340yup!

    • @SK-hq6ux
      @SK-hq6ux 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They will definitely be uncontrolled uncontrolled migration when they just take in everyone at the last most desperate moment.

    • @marvin2678
      @marvin2678 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@generalbenjaminarrola340you Wish, loser

  • @walalago
    @walalago หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The real problem is that we all know this current global phenomenon isn’t going to get any better.

  • @mohammedabdullah4602
    @mohammedabdullah4602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    When I saw the Ukrainian and Russian refugees fleeing the war, I noticed the large number of elderly people, especially elderly women. In those two countries, there are more women than men, and the reasons are known. In Russia, there are +10 million more women than men, and the average life expectancy of Russian women is 9 years higher than that ofRussian men.

    • @jokester3076
      @jokester3076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      In the soviet period there were negative social stigmas that discouraged women from taking up smoking, because it was considered a masculine vice and unladylike for women to smoke cigarettes. Most soviet working men were habitual smokers, so the lung cancer rate for men who came of age during the Soviet Union is way higher then women..
      Russian men also took on more dangerous jobs and were regularly exposed to hazardous chemicals. Then there was rampant alcoholism.
      The gender imbalance is also because of ww2 and the soviet Afghan war.
      When the USSR collapsed the soviet people became impoverished overnight and had to suddenly adapt to living under a new more stressful system for the first time in their lives. it took a heavier emotional toll on older working men who had to provide for their families in great depression era type conditions, men from that period died in droves from heart attacks, suicide and stress induced sickness.

    • @backintimealwyn5736
      @backintimealwyn5736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jokester3076 accurate.

    • @DanielSilva-jj2lz
      @DanielSilva-jj2lz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jokester3076 To top it off, now half a million more Russian men have been killed, and 3 million more have fled the country. Not sure, but it seems that calling politicians donkey is an insult to donkeys.

    • @csuporj
      @csuporj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All those excess women are 65+ years old.

    • @JohnHall-d6b
      @JohnHall-d6b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hollywood made it glamorous for women to smoke!! But in old days! It was not seen in good light for women to smoke In public!! So when Hollywood in 1920s started showing women smoking!! It gave the woman's rights to say we have rights and smoking was one to show a woman is Independent and smoking in public show she has rights like men!!

  • @martello2000
    @martello2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ironic that Greece has to encourage immigrants to come to the country because it's population is leaving. The "great replacement" is spreading. Europe as we know it will soon be gone.

  • @andrewst9797
    @andrewst9797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A smaller population is not the problem nor is the lack of high paying jobs.
    Long term stability and inexpensive opportunities for young people to reduce their depressing struggles is the key.
    Local services, products, produce and industries give meaning to a society
    Quality architecture and town planning is fundamentally important.
    It creates good healthy conditions to raise families whose children see a future at home and a meaningful sense of place for themselves.
    But not every village must survive nor should it if there is nothing to do there.
    Reestablishing wild nature, sustainable farming traditions and practices should also become a national goal for the country.

    • @pasdeville
      @pasdeville 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agree, but the EU-politics are supporting the multinational economic power.Mondialisation of the economie instead of making the ''local-economics'' stronger.

    • @marcozegikniet9301
      @marcozegikniet9301 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah being overworeked and underpayed is not the problem.

    • @andrewst9797
      @andrewst9797 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@marcozegikniet9301 Overworked? On social media, certainly!

    • @marcozegikniet9301
      @marcozegikniet9301 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewst9797
      Oke stay in your bubble then
      🤣

    • @alexandrosdiakoumopoulos4965
      @alexandrosdiakoumopoulos4965 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@marcozegikniet9301 a smaller population = more job opportunities= higher pay= better standard of living. The population collapse of the black death is an excellent example of how standards of living increase post large population declines. Reducing our vision to maintaining bloated population figures only increases the burden on us and the overburdened environment

  • @hezorex9822
    @hezorex9822 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    The decrease in population is due to immigration. Many are here in Germany. Same goes to many European countries. They all move to richer and wealth countries for greener pasture.

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Not only to wealthier countries, but also to countries with better climatic and environmental conditions. And also more beautiful cities. The UAE are wealthier than Greece, but there are not many greek people there.
      I would move to Germany even if it had 70% of the GDP per capita of Greece, just because of the climate.
      This immigr. however needs to stop now I believe.
      Grüße aus Griechenland.

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Emigration, not immigration.

    • @bozokluoglu_
      @bozokluoglu_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomorrowneverdies567 I don’t know about UAE but i see them here in Qatar every now and then. Of course proportionally it is not much but yes some Greeks also move this region because it is much wealthier than Greece

    • @tomorrowneverdies567
      @tomorrowneverdies567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bozokluoglu_ of course.

    • @gezyeoku
      @gezyeoku 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bozokluoglu_Dostum, is English valid in daily life in Qatar like in Dubai or is Arabic stronger? 🤔

  • @Maliceless100
    @Maliceless100 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    THE WORLD NEEDS FEWER PEOPLE. Let's not forget the underlying existential threat to our species.

  • @dazza9859
    @dazza9859 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ireland can provide over one million foreigners living in Ireland for Greece.This would rebuild its population.

  • @rosavelez1742
    @rosavelez1742 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So many countries in Europe are having the same issues with diminishing population, in the meantime world forum economy is telling us the world is overpopulated. Something is not adding up.🤔🤔

    • @ronnelacido1711
      @ronnelacido1711 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because some countries are in fact overpopulated. Halved the population of both China and India and distribute evenly among the 28 or so EU countries and many of them will become overpopulated.

  • @UKVeteran2024
    @UKVeteran2024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    They put the abandoned house prices up every few months, so you can only blame the locals.

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Greek citizens voted for everything that is happening to them. they wanted this. no excuses now

    • @UKVeteran2024
      @UKVeteran2024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StefanosP208 that's a shame, because Greek people are 100% lovely people.

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@UKVeteran2024 some are, some arent, just like every other place. Remember that if you are a foreigner, they treat you like a walking wallet, so ofcourse they will be nice to you.

    • @UKVeteran2024
      @UKVeteran2024 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@StefanosP208 such a shame, I would love to buy a cheap house in Greece and add to the community.

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow. Didn't know about this. Greece also had financial issues a while back too. I wonder if they ever recovered from that.

  • @ch1ckenphat514
    @ch1ckenphat514 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Over 7 years to become a greek citizen. Even if you have blood ties here. What a joke.

    • @hpspectre5184
      @hpspectre5184 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bet thanks to Bureaucracy it would be easier for illegal immigrants to become citizens.

    • @alexandrosdiakoumopoulos4965
      @alexandrosdiakoumopoulos4965 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well if you have a problem you can go to places like Paris. Just try not to get mugged

  • @Dudeguy36
    @Dudeguy36 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Moral decay and high costs is a killer for a country’s future.

    • @TheDragonofRevelation
      @TheDragonofRevelation 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Moral decay isn't a contributing factor. Everyone has always been immoral at all times. What changed is socioeconomics.

  • @norwegianblue2017
    @norwegianblue2017 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's is bizarre to me that the European countries that used to have the biggest families are now having virtually no families at all. Greece, Italy and Spain are all at the forefront of population collapse. Right up there with Korea and Japan.

  • @User-r5g5f
    @User-r5g5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    They should encourage diaspora Greeks to come back. Even if they cannot speak Greek. In time they will learn.

    • @KingNeutral1
      @KingNeutral1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Why would they leave their strong economies and job opportunities abroad for a collapsing society with a 6-day work week?

    • @User-r5g5f
      @User-r5g5f 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@KingNeutral1 Because they aren’t just ordinary people. They are ethnic Greeks, the ones who return have a desire to see the country survive and thrive. Not to mention with so much work done online the local job market doesn’t matter as much as it used to.

    • @system3335
      @system3335 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      i returned, been three years. zero regrets , love life here. Need to make an income abroad tho. it ain’t cheap

    • @survive-1-day-at-a-time
      @survive-1-day-at-a-time 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We are trying to come back and we speak the language perfectly but the Greek government is very greedy and placed obstacles all along the way with stupid paperwork demands and long waits to get αφμ

    • @cs0345
      @cs0345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No one should be expected to remain loyal to the country they left behind

  • @truthisthelight
    @truthisthelight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    May I also remind you of the fact that our Native American population in our motherland, the Continent of America before the European Colonizers arrived, was around 15 millions, while the European population in their motherland, the Continent of Europe was around 25 millions.
    Today, Native American population is 15 million, while the European population, in the Continents of America + Europe, is a staggering TWO BILLION! A shockingly sad truth. 😔
    In my humble opinion, it's about time to decolonize the Colonized lands, and return to rightful owners Native American people.
    Notorious global cardinal crimes the Christian West has committed, and benefited a great deal, such as Slavery & Colonialism had long been over, why on earth is notorious Colonization still lingering on, may I ask? 🤷

    • @plumeria66
      @plumeria66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Life goes forwards, not backwards. You’re not going to return anything to native Americans. Most Americans do not want to live the way Native Americans lived. Cultures come and go throughout history along with their people. That’s the nature of life on earth.

    • @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z
      @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Your numbers are all wrong.

    • @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z
      @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Before the Europeans arrived, there was 115 Million Indigenous people in the Americas.

    • @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z
      @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      By the time the second group of Europeans arrived. There were only 5 million remaining. Meaning 110 Million died in the original "First Contact" event featuring Cristofo Colombo, Hernando De Soto, etc. a minority died through war, the majority died through disease.
      But that event created the specific context for which all of the succeeding events to take place.
      England would have had a much tougher time colonizing 115 Million rather than 4-5 million. Had not the Spaniards knocked out the overwhelming majority of their potential opposition.

    • @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z
      @SAYNOTOCENSORSHIP-z6z 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You're also severely over estimating the Indigenous population of the United States. There's nowhere near 15 million. It's between 1-3 Million.

  • @h.nguyen4193
    @h.nguyen4193 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its called Karma. When you mistreat something, Don't expect it to be around to help you later on in life. The old population mistreated the country for decades, with the economic, the mismanagement and corruption of the state, the young have nothing left for them to stay to take care of the old. In the end Karma.

  • @stevo728822
    @stevo728822 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The old people stole their grandchildren's future.

    • @NeygarzruinedAmerica
      @NeygarzruinedAmerica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The women did. They dont have kids. Wanna sleep aroumd

    • @maggieperlod8536
      @maggieperlod8536 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@NeygarzruinedAmerica you dont have a clue about Greek woman. We are orthodox very religious and family oriented . All in balkan are that way. We can not afford family.

    • @NeygarzruinedAmerica
      @NeygarzruinedAmerica 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maggieperlod8536 but muslims somehow do it even in places where there is war

    • @asdg2271
      @asdg2271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      you are clueless.. the old people lived hard, re-built the country from rubble and ashes of ww2. occupation never ended just changed name, face, methods..

    • @SuperGlue4321
      @SuperGlue4321 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@NeygarzruinedAmerica Really??? Women who were being sold as property had children. Those children did not give more slave labourers for capitalists to sell. Is that what you are mad about?? That you didn't get your own sex slave??

  • @ALBERT-oj1vn
    @ALBERT-oj1vn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I don’t see any drama in here if things get harder, they can always immigrate to the United States or anywhere else they won’t. They are underneath your protection in the part of a strong, regional EU’s economic union. Besides Greece is a small country. It can go pretty ok with 5 million people also. Decline of population for Greece is an advantage as well. The lack of rain , global warming and limited farming opportunities is already a future catastrophy waiting for Greece as well.

    • @SeattlePioneer
      @SeattlePioneer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Turkey will just expand to take over Greece.

    • @serkanaygun8395
      @serkanaygun8395 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SeattlePioneerWe don't care about shitty Greece

  • @joe-vl3nd
    @joe-vl3nd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Same in south Korea and Japan
    Watch CNA insider from Singapore 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @ChristineFisher123
    @ChristineFisher123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's the opposite problem in the UK where we have over-population. There are far too many people in this country. As a result our public services and NHS are collapsing under the strain; we are an ageing society, and a lot of younger people are not having chidren anymore; they can no longer afford to have them..

    • @SK-kh2rs
      @SK-kh2rs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That is the problem everybody else is complaining about here. There are too many old people but not enough young people to work to pay for the old. Young people struggling so not having kids. Greece is an ageing population.

  • @rhambo5554
    @rhambo5554 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    So my country's population (UK) is going nuts, if Greece can incentivise me I will happily leave my overcrowded Orwellian hellhole.

    • @beaulieuc8910
      @beaulieuc8910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zrymill better cllimates? what with good weather and wildfires makes sense

  • @vivektripathi6053
    @vivektripathi6053 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Here in India hospitals are full of patients. There is no place to even sit in hospitals. Too much crowded. I dream of places like greece ❤

  • @maureenmckenna5220
    @maureenmckenna5220 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My understanding of one of the causes of Greece’s economic issues was the fact that they had big government programs and not enough taxes collected to pay for it all. Taxes were more or less a voluntary thing, and they took some pride in paying as little as possible. Other worldwide issues impacted them, of course, but this was a socialist issue gone wrong.

    • @StefanosP208
      @StefanosP208 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody actually works, people are masters at pretending to be busy. nobody pays taxes, greek people take great pride in stealing from the government, ie themselves and their neighbours. they are also master complainers, blaming everybody but themselves. All greeks consider Europeans idiots for actually working, and constantly trying to find new ways to scam tourists for money.

  • @stumac869
    @stumac869 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Western Europe is dying because our politicians have pursued GDP and mass immigration over quality of life and the ability to afford a home and family.

    • @MrPrebuttal
      @MrPrebuttal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The people who control our politicians you mean

    • @BlackPill-pu4vi
      @BlackPill-pu4vi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Get to the CAUSE of the diminution. Read and watch content made by world jewish congress and you'll see the origins of the economic depression and war against native European alabasters which, in turn, was designed to stop organic reproduction. An aging and stagnant native population gives them justification to import swarms of Africans and further driving alabasters into non-existence.

  • @zgord-nb1zi
    @zgord-nb1zi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So sad to hear about this. Ive traveled to Greece and it is a beautiful and magical country with such very nice people. They were always giving us free ouso wherever we went. Strange how people are moving out when my gf and i want to move there. Its paradise.

  • @laikanbarth
    @laikanbarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Ridiculous!! The EU has opened its borders so of course young people from places like Greece or Italy whose countries don’t have a lot of good paying jobs are going to go to places like Germany and other places in Europe that have more jobs and pay better. Obviously, the open borders are part of the problem. Brining in millions of immigrants is not going to fix the problem especially if they have different cultural and religious norms. It’s just going to cause problems. Maybe if European countries were actually vetting the immigrants to see how they would be a net positive to the countries but they are not. They are just letting anyone come in. This will destroy Europe in the future.

    • @ahmedawad563
      @ahmedawad563 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh don't worry about immigrants. Europe has shot itself in both feet 10 times over now, and it is going to destroy itself. You worry too much about immigrants who don't look like you, yet your democratically-elected white politicians, who share your same culture and religion, are the ones who screwed the entire continent over.

    • @Alexander-rr6yn
      @Alexander-rr6yn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Italy is far richer than Greece, it’s the only country in the south of Europe on par with other western european countries.

    • @SK-kh2rs
      @SK-kh2rs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont put shabby greece on the same level as italy 😂

  • @mohammedabdullah4602
    @mohammedabdullah4602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Demographic decline in West and Russia is very important for World peace

    • @laikanbarth
      @laikanbarth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah right, guess you’ve not heard of the Arab wars or the wars in Africa. Educate yourself before making any statement.

    • @محبالصحابة-ه6ع
      @محبالصحابة-ه6ع 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@laikanbarth ....americans, Europeans and russians are funding wars in middle east.

    • @Slangh
      @Slangh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The middle east has been a battle ground ever since biblical times, back when the "west" and Russia were just backwaters. Maybe the world would be better off with less people living there too?

    • @ciaronsmith4995
      @ciaronsmith4995 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Slangh Not really. Iran was the most impressive civilization of all time and towered above Europe. Still does in some ways.
      Only a matter of time before the old ways return. Civilizations like Iran and Turkey (less so but still), are juggernauts that can only be suppressed for so long.
      The Arabs I don't know.....they are......in some trouble. But not Iran.

  • @suztjembijawatson3362
    @suztjembijawatson3362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is something the Greeks who left "for a better life" will find out after it is lost. Life is not big houses and packed bank accounts. Those are meaningless. The simple life is healthier, mentally, and physically. I wish I could move to Greece. It is a beautiful country.

  • @BobSnod
    @BobSnod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Time to get enriched!!

  • @redMaple_QC
    @redMaple_QC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    If there is a big income inequality they need to raise taxes on the rich to redistribute wealth.

    • @swojnowski453
      @swojnowski453 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the rich rule countries, politicians are just a facade for telling people bad news in a way that does not cause riots or revolutions. If the money is to be redistributed, communities, the people will have to do it by themselves. They will have to take things in their own hands, hold the rich to account. Holding politicians to account will not help. They are just puppets, useful first wall exposed to the anger of those who no longer have anything to lose.

    • @enhancedutility266
      @enhancedutility266 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      There's barely any rich people to tax in Greece most of the ownership of assets are state-owned

    • @pwp8737
      @pwp8737 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Greece doesn't have many industries that can be taxed, its richest tend to be shipping owners who have registered the ships in foreign countries and live in London, Paris and NYC. The small scale businesses that are typical in Greece can only be taxed so much.

    • @aetherion7
      @aetherion7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Women have gotten lately the same salary as men, generally, because of the leftists, but first of all the salary-subject is irrelevant anyway with that more people dont have children anymore. Thats how it should be, we cannot all have children it would be like every human works as postman, there is already an overpopulation problem in Hellas compared to countries like Sweden for example. It is a general European problem as well, but the population is to big in Hellas in such a small country. A balance is needed - which means reduction. The population is not "shrinking", its the opposite still as we speak, and that needs to be reduced.

    • @allykhan8594
      @allykhan8594 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      And the rich leave! May disable them first?

  • @Joybuzzard
    @Joybuzzard 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are we going to pretend this isn't exactly what the EU had planned for Greece decades ago?

  • @pmavrod
    @pmavrod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The causes of this decline is not only financial. The last year that fertility rate was 2.1 was in 1982. Since 1986 it collapsed and remained below 1.4-1.5 during 90's and 2000's where we had economical stability and grow. There are numerous reasons for people not having kids. Its a matter of values, choices, perspective of life, the relationchips have changed and the roll of the woman in the society. The minister is an exaple. She doesn't have kids by choice (and she is ahead of that ministry...). Scandinavian countries despite having a strong social state and are financially strong they have a low fertility rate too. With very few exceptions all the countries of the developed world face the same problem in one way or another. The rich countries are a poll for young people (also highly educated), young people from countries like Greece and through that way the deal with the consequences

  • @jontalbot1
    @jontalbot1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Greece’s problems are fundamentally economic. You see this simply driving around the country. The lack of commercial traffic is astonishing. There is tourism, shipping, maybe food industry but what else?

    • @jumpman366
      @jumpman366 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dude all problems are economic

  • @rickb7225
    @rickb7225 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My children grew up on an Aegean island, received great education in small village , because of the great teachers, however after getting degrees at top UK universities, they became part of the brain drain, choosing to work in Monaco and London. I'm British, but all of our family members love Greece, unfortunately career options are limited in the islands for young people.

    • @theghostofbabanovac7069
      @theghostofbabanovac7069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ironically pursue of higher education and material gains plays a huge role in driving the population collapse. People with higher education universally have very low reproduction rates

  • @sutats
    @sutats 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not nearly as alarming as Korea's fertility rate. These situations will take a few generations to correct if the proper solution is implemented.

    • @dgh6g33gf
      @dgh6g33gf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right now all the wrong solutions are being implimented in Greece so the problem is being exercaberated.

  • @hee-yoonkang1466
    @hee-yoonkang1466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    immigration will be last nail to native greece population and completely will replace them... as its been designed by economic forum

    • @patmtc477
      @patmtc477 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No.. it depends on the type of immigrants. There are some immigrants who tend to assimilate to the culture. Look at the happened after WW2 in the UK.

    • @niko_k_s
      @niko_k_s หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@patmtc477is this a joke? Or can you not see what is happening

  • @qrsx66
    @qrsx66 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In Japan they give free houses to those who want to live in depopulated areas.

  • @redstone5062
    @redstone5062 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The problem is cultural and not just in Greece. In all of the west, we have adopted a culture that suggests either not having children at all or delaying until your late 30s or even 40s is the smart thing to do. That is past prime fertility age.

    • @gunner4life568
      @gunner4life568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      People don't have money hence they delay having kids

    • @etienne8110
      @etienne8110 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It s not about smart or not, it s about being able to afford them.
      Late stage capitalism makes it impossible for a 20-30 year old couple to own a house and afford kids. Thus they do the smart thing: they don t make them.

  • @wenterinfaer1656
    @wenterinfaer1656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Who wants to bring children into this rotten time?

  • @sierrasky2491
    @sierrasky2491 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good. More open parks and green areas for the kids.

  • @Romasyd
    @Romasyd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Meanwhile, the Great Replacement is called a conspiracy theory 😂