What can we do with disruptive children? | Debbie Breeze | TEDxNantwich
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- Believing that children do well if they can, Debbie is passionate about uncovering and helping other professionals to understand the reasons for disruptive behaviour and the right of these children to appropriate services and approaches within mainstream education. ‘There is always a reason for every behaviour, we must ask which unmet need is at work here? Then do all we can to find a solution’.
Debbie is well placed to argue that it is our moral responsibility to radically rethink how our education system views and responds to its most vulnerable and distressed pupils within our mainstream schools.
About Debbie
Debbie has, for over twenty-five-years, been involved with the education of young people whose behaviour is regarded as challenging. As well as teaching in Therapeutic Communities, Pupil Referral Units, Special Schools and within Hospital Adolescent Psychiatric provision, she has also worked as a Consultant to mainstream schools undertaking observations, making recommendations, modelling new approaches to teachers and delivering whole school staff training. Debbie has, for over twenty-five-years, been involved with the education of young people whose behaviour is regarded as challenging. As well as teaching in Therapeutic Communities, Pupil Referral Units, Special Schools and within Hospital Adolescent Psychiatric provision, she has also worked as a Consultant to mainstream schools undertaking observations, making recommendations, modelling new approaches to teachers and delivering whole school staff training. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
It is clear this teacher is very devoted, but I wish she had gotten into specific reforms and strategies. We have to do so much already, we need practical advice and more support. We know things aren't working the way they are now, but how can we make it better?
My thoughts exactly
Absolutely recommend the book 'Restoring Teaching' by Adam Voigt, it does give practical and effective in-classroom strategies for restorative practice.
@@daniellestranieri2147more recommendation for behavioural management?
Recently studying Behaviours that Challenge with Aspire Cache Level 2, they introduced us to the PBS plan, which I thought was amazing, yes I would have loved to hear her strategies.
Why is this video getting so much hate?? She's absolutely right. The behaviour of these kids can make us feel powerless and frustrated. Remembering that those behaviours are always stemming from somewhere or something directly impacts the way we choose to handle those children and compassion is always the way forward.
It's probably because the video is titled "What can we do with disruptive children" but she does not tell us what we can do. She gives us more of a "why" children are disruptive, but doesn't give any strategies or effective methods to assist, so the video title is misleading.
Compassion yes
It's not the teachers failing them 99% of the time though is it...its the parents and then they expect the teachers to "fix them" .
You can have a very healthy, supportive, structured environment at home, and have behaviors at school. It's not JUST one or the the other. There are a number of things that need to be considered here, such as environment, mental health, personal experiences, the friends that they spend time with, among so many other things. It's quite bold of you to make a blanket statement with zero context to back it up.
Many kids today don’t sleep 8 hours a day, don’t eat breakfast before school, sit in front of a screen for at least 8 hours a day and drink energy drinks to keep awake. If I did that I would be climbing the walls too.
How are we teachers supposed to help these disadvantaged and vulnerable children if we have groups of 30, 32...? It is impossible.
Break it down to its simplest form and then add on for the ones who are more advanced and need less help. Then you empower the ones who can by having them help the ones who cant. EOTO (each one teach one)
This is so true it takes that one teacher to show the children they matter. I work in a head start program and we have a few students who are "challenging" I tell the people I work with do you want to be the teacher who a child remembers as someone who helped them and showed them they matter and have potential or the teacher who made them feel like nothing.
A very heart felt and emotive presentation given by someone who obviously cares and is very knowledgeable in their field and as the parent of a disruptive child who has now grown up to be a successful business man it shows that time and effort and understanding works ,well done Debbie proud of you, Dave Martin .yes that one .
We are not counselors though, feel there should be more of a partnership between counselors and teachers
i will say one thing. she is speaking about what mainstream teahcers are doing wrong and should do differently, with seemily no experience of of mainstream teaching (and if she does she should have spoken about that) working in a PRU is very different experience to a mainstream school. (smaller classes, probably less content to cover and long time with each student. this allows far stronger bonds and trusting relationships to grow. this is far more tricky to do in a mainstream school
I am sure that if you really want to know and understand some strategies you will go and find them. They are out there! This was a very interesting talk, thank you! Great work!
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Loved this TED Talk, thank you Debbie!
Wow thank you great reminder
Brilliant, thank you - I loved this
Debbie you're awesome! Heartfelt and professional, articulate and compassionate x
I agree to a certain degree on what are is saying but when u have a huge population of children with behaviour in a school, it's tough. Some kids, you just can't reach.
Children follow people first and then the follow rules. So true!!! They need a demonstration of each of the things that they are expected to do and demonstrations of the kinds of people that they're expected to become. I have one student I'm considering find out how to reach... When he had just left the hospital, he started having chats with classmates about different things, throw things around the classroom and play around occasionally without acknowledging my presence in the classroom. He probably doesn't have the right role models at home... I think that his father is absent because his mother must raise him herself. I think this may seem difficult but I must say that if teachers must call on students, they must not do it excessively. Let it be known what the expectations are before starting or continuing lessons.
Great speech. I'd like to have heard what these restorative methods are though
There’s a lot of sense in this. The UK system is sanction heavy but light on effective intervention. Typically challenging students will have sat in hundreds of detentions and will have been isolated and/or excluded many times. If this was the solution then surely the challenging behaviour would have stopped. The same is true in prisons where locking prisoners up for 23 hours a day satisfies the need for punishment, but does little to reduce their prospects of re-offending. Reduce sanctions (note I say reduce not get rid of) and improve intervention. This by the way is the tougher, more time consuming option for those who think it is ‘soft’ and we might start to improve the life chances of those students who display challenging behaviour.
Part of everything in life is Damiener, people especially ones who have been neglected can read people very very well so they don't get hurt again!
You come teach in the Alaska Bush for a year and we'll talk about it!
We can't compassion our way out of this. All of the passivity and love is not going to change this.
The kids need someone to attach to so they can be soothed therefore heard, felt and understood. They will then feel safe no matter where they go.
That doesn't excuse the unacceptable behaviour of some pupils. I have about 5 pupils who meet that description, all in one class. All of them come in with no intention other than to derail the lesson as much as possible. Kindness won't do anything for them.
what is the solution?? How do we get there? Do you have a prescriptive idea? Hmm we need answers not just the same complains,,
Would like to become a teacher so I can just change the education system.
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It's mad Bro teachers are overworked and sleep deprived. They want to do this but it's a challenge. When you spend 2 hours as an new teacher on a couple of lessons an a kid runs through the class stopping learning you feel disheartened. When this carries on for 6 months it's a more stark story
Kudos for the Video clip! Excuse me for butting in, I am interested in your opinion. Have you researched - Trentvorty Kids Science Theorem (Sure I saw it on Google)? It is a smashing one of a kind guide for becoming an excellent parent minus the headache. Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my m8 at very last got cool success with it.
@@rimskibob7461 Changing the education system is the responsibility of everyone, not just the teachers.
You'll need to be a politician not a teacher
I am totally fed up with this soft approach. It's time for discipline, respect and authority.
Believe me, you will not get anywhere with a disruptive child like that, i've worked with the worst of the worst and all i use is love and compasion, forging bonds with each one of them, making them feel like they are champions, making them establish a purpose and improving their social habilities. Trust me teach a child compasion and they will reduce anti social behavior
Yes I agree entirely with your view. It is a very complicated subject, basically with these so called disruptive, challenging kids they want attention, any attention will do. 90% of these types would change their ways with some strict discipline.
The softly softly approach is failing, just open your eyes when you go out, you will see plenty of kids with no respect, no self respect.
@@santiagolacayo2very correct. I used all that coercive approach and it back fired. What is now working is compassion and attunement.
Bring back the paddle, the psych hospital, and the behavior unit! Ticket parents and children. They should not be in the regular classroom. I had a desk thrown at me, I've been bitten, kicked, threaten and cussed at by a first grader.
Thank you. I have purchased restorative teaching books as my heart was going this direction a while back. My concern is, is an understanding of global schools - a U.K. teacher teaching abroad. I feel abroad I may be able to try and implement things (primary qualified but teaching secondary abroad) - they have not had PSED or PSHE. But overall (western- not because I am funny but because at least there was PSED PSHE) - can there not be a way to fuse the both worlds of mainstream classroom and the special classrooms together? Teachers are limited and sure might wanna do all you said. It’s like the learning objective- how can the steps to success be blatantly obvious? How can these special schools be as one with main stream? Being empathic to the limitations of regular classroom. I am blessed after being abroad for 5 years I am in a school where children understand English to have this conversation - where I was able to take notes from this video and take action from an event the last working week. But I really wish for the blend to happen within the system where the teacher still has their personal time and work time is used productively to teach and also teach and support these children. Ps… I have saved this video as I felt it to be beautiful.
i'm not being funny but when is she going to get to the point? It's all theory and statistics.
As a teacher, I have to say a lot of the things she's talking about are not nor should be what my job is. My job is to teach the students the standards and nothing more. I am not there to be their friend, I am not there to be their big brother, and I am not there to be some kind of savior to the students. Now don't get me wrong, if a student becomes inspired and wants to change along the way of me doing my primary job, great, but I'm not there to make a cat bark. I will always be willing to put in endless time to help students and tutor them outside of school hours, but only if they are willing to put in the endless time wanting to be taught. If a student does not care for school and does not want to learn, then I'm sorry for him/her but I have to move on to the ones who do.
No, you don't want to be a teacher! Trust me !
Is there a transcript available for this talk?
:D Really!
That didn't help at all, you just make me feel more bad about myself trying to look for a way to do the exact same thing you're saying !
This was lame. It basically was saying that even at the cost of the learning of the larger population, we need to keep on spending time and resources on this specific population for their self esteem.
So during my training we taught to take the child the classroom, take them to the sensory room, to work with them positively, but some theories still back sanctions. Debbie turns the sanctions on the there head. I still want to know what TED mean though.
Where are the strategies?
Welcome to Ted Talks. Abstract well meaning ideas with no hand-on approach.
Vacuous, sentimental and 'inspirational' talk. Most special schools deal with this successfully and sen staff put up with so much, they should be the ones challenging her. Her nonsense talk is irritating, you want to give collective responsibility with such lousy salaries in education, come on!
You should check out Behavior Analysis. It uses learning principles to manage difficult behaviors.
A rotten apple spoils the whole barrel! You cannot pass over hundreds of years of confirmed experience!!
Actually, until social injustices keep making their way into classrooms, teachers will have to bear the load of them.
there is more than social injustices, teachers are not psychologists, or social progressives. We take children as they are an help them when we can
Bring back the birch. This speaker's presentation is gibberish. She gives no specifics. Less than worthless.
Why should we comply with .....what ,who , ....why Im in my fortys ....i still find people like you drive me mad
I would take issue with one point. We don't want them to go away because they are not our problem anymore. We want them to go away because they are impacting negatively on the education of those around them. Which is not fair for the vast majority who have adequate parents.
Send the kids to the state hospital and boot camp! Bring back the paddle! Work on the kids who are high IQ and with good behavior.
You and this comment are part of the problem that children with additional needs face. The ignorance you show is ridiculous! Some of the greatest minds to ever grace this planet had additional needs. How about we support all kids and not just the "socially worthy" ones?!
@@jakecutler9004 Work in an inner city school, and you will change your mind. One does not choose their caregiver. Work with Crack babies, ganster kids, and emotional disturbed children. I am not talking about the child that has been raised with by a loving, two parent environment.
I won't change my mind in the slightest! The fact that you want to resort to outdated punishments for a child that simply struggle to communicate an issue is where the problem lies. I've worked in multiple settings with a whole array of children with different needs. And not once have I thought, state hospitals, boot camp and the paddle are the answer to the issue.
Albert Einstein had dyslexia meaning he would've struggled in school yet he developed the theory of relativity. So no it won't change my mind. Your mindset is what needs to change. Open it up and be more willing to accept others regardless of there struggles.
@@jakecutler9004 I'm not pertaining to students with dyslexia or the learning disabled from a stable environment. The Greatest Generation was raised correctly. They wanted to make their parents proud. A friend with dyslexia went to the best med school in Texas. However, she had tutoring in high school and college. Her parents made sure that she reached her potential. Nowadays it's normal for a regular Ed teacher to be bit, cussed at, and have kids destroy the classroom. They will be a burden on society the rest of their lives, unless there is intervention and peer pressure. BTW, a student in my city tried to burn her Grandma's house down (1/3 destroyed) because her mother threatened to take her phone away! Child Protective Services and the school district's social worker had been checking on the parent, because the girl had not been turning in work. Now the girl is in jail. Not juvenile!
I understand what you're saying I do but tell me how you can differentiate between somebody with and without the issue just by looking at them? You simply can't. Every single behaviour has a cause, it's as simple as that! Why wasn't the girl turning in work? Was she struggling? What was the underlying issue? Instead a repercussion was made to punish her if she didn't do as told and hence a behaviour. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that behaviour is okay because it most definitely isn't okay, in any way shape or form. But I believe there would've been something that caused the behaviour to get to that level. It's a cause and effect scenario. No ifs or buts. Something cause the young lady to feel that way.
The only reason I want to become a teacher is to help depressed students because of this ’UsfuL leaRNIng TOoL’
This is so generalized it's annoying. Why is she putting it on teachers? This is terrible. There are many levels of disruptive behavior, some are mild some are dangerous. Ugh
In a lot of cases it is the teachers fault. Im not the best at school I’m not horrible but definitely not a saint. The reason why me and many other people hate listening to teachers is because the whole system is floored we have to ask to go to the toilet we have to sit down in silence and learn from a book and they wonder why we are bored and always talk and misbehave?! We aren’t seen as equals with adults and we are supposed to cower in fear and do as were told it’s bollox! The whole system is flawed and teachers that agree with that statement don’t do anything about they sit back and follow the rest of the old twats and then they become old and bitter and the cycle goes on and on and no one tries to do anything and it’s horrible! Children are seen but are not heard just supposed to comply with their sociopathic and pathetic rules!
Hmmmm... “what can we do with disruptive children”......... learn to convey that you hear them.........for beginners?
It’s not useful. Old tips I knew
1:37 . 2 billion pounds? Are they all obese?