Dr. Patrick Moore-- Carbon and Climate Catastrophe
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- Carbon and Climate Catastrophe
Dr. Patrick Moore-- Co-Founder and former President of Greenpeace, Director of the CO2 Coalition, Senior Fellow of The Heartland Institute, and author of "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and THreats of Doom"
The Dinner Keynote Address at The Steamboat Institute Energy and Climate Summit, The Nexus of U.S. Energy Policy, Climate Science, Freedom and Prosperity by Dr. Patrick Moore on March 12, 2022 at the Steamboat Grand in Steamboat Springs, Colorado.
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This needs to be shown in schools world wide
To show what scientific misinformation looks like? Yes, absolutely.
Never going to happen. All institutions are captured by hysteria, politics and ideology..
. Just because something disagrees with Trudeau. Doesn't make it misinformation. This guy is very capable, as much as anyone, and well experienced. He knows his stuff. I believe he is being truthful.
Every politician, bureaucrat and activist needs to listen to this.
Politician's & Top Activist already know this. People on the lower end are younger & as we know its hard to get through to younger people that think they know it all. Eventually those people will grow up & realize theyve been bamboozled but there be another generation theyve already brainwashed. Its why they chose children for lead activist, like Gretta Thornburg & using this young people method they reach adults because most adults are sympathetic to a crying child. This whole "Use the weather to promote government bureaucracy & power" has been going on since the 1960s that I know of. Back them they warned of a coming ice age. Yes I wish people would watch this & I'm sure a lot of grown ups would but to todays youth its a religion the same way white guilt is taught. Patrick Moore is a rare breed & the only other person besides Trump to call it a HOAX. To many people think you should reason with the people claiming this stuff & meet them half way, they call it "Bipartisanship" but you cant negotiate with a LIE.
BTW a good question to ask a believer in man made climate change & C02 being the cause just ask them what comes first when they build & light a Fire, C02 or Heat. The obvious answer is Heat to start the Fire & it proves C02 is a result of heat, not a cause. You cant take C02 & make Fire. Also the fact that everything on Earth is constantly being Recycled & Renewed by Earth its self s a good point for people to ponder. That fact alone bust so many of the modern day environmentalist theory's. One last thing ill mention is I've noticed & I may not be 100% correct but from what I've seen most of the Environmentalist Movements that are really Political in Nature come from regions don't experience many extreme weather events seasonally For example in the South East where you have to have AC & Humidifiers to survive, there's no big Environmentalist Movements. Could it be that the relatively moderate climates keep them from understanding how important Natural Oil is as an energy source. I may be off on that but most of the Enviro movements I know of are from cooler climates which may have the opposite effect on there mentality than you'd think. Its easy to argue against Minerals like Natural Gas & Natural Oil when you rely on it 8-9 months out of the year. One last tidbit, are you aware only 11% of the Earths surface has been explored for Oil & Gas deposits? Claiming Oil is a limited source is like claiming water is a limited source which they do that as well come to think of it. Also Mineral Oil from the Earths Crust isn't the only source of Oil. We create oil out of all types of stuff. I personally believe they marketed Oil as a limited substance to drive the price up & profit. I know Nuclear Power gets demonized for the fact it would put major Energy Company's out of business if Humans took advantage of its capabilities.
ELEVEN SEPARATE STUDIES CONFIRM THE SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS ON CLIMATE CHANGE. ELEVEN. CORNELL UNIVERSITY LAST YEAR AUDITED THE OVER 88000 CLIMATE STUDIES PUBLISHED FROM 2012-2020 AND TALLIED A 99.9% CONSENSUS THAT HUMAN ACTIVITY, NOT NATURE, IS FUELING CLIMATE CHANGE.
@@wandameadows5736 Hawaii is on fire and Beijing is underwater. Our children are much more aware than some of their parents of the danger of listening to liars. Homeowners in many areas can no longer buy insurance for their homes and insurance companies are filing for bankruptcy en masse. Climate change is not only real its here. These type of videos are a joke.
Actually there are many great scientists who are against the climate crisis fraud. Dr. Koonin, Happer, Judith Curry, and many more. I discovered them as I discovered Dr. Patrick Moore.
Delighted to have found Patrick Moore and his wisdom; a truly great, moral man 👍🙂
As an engineer and seeker of the truth, I can’t count how many arguments I’ve had over the years about the fake climate catastrophe and hype around co2 emissions. This guy gets it and he has the resume to make even the most radical nuts listen. Thank you Dr. Moore and I commend the group for having the courage to give an open audience and fair chance to be heard
bro makes the dumbest arguments I can't believe you actuallyb think he's smart 😂 dude said CO2 is needed because of plants
@@meandmeatmeoverthereif you're properly open to hearing a range of well reasoned arguments, regardless of who the speaker is, then it's up to you, the listener to discern where the truth lies. This is why free speech is vital to enable society to flourish
Phooey. He makes his niche being contrary to data- and gets his support from the oil people
@@eppurse would you apply that same criteria to the multi-billion dollar green energy industry who massively funds, with your tax dollars faked data that justifies their ever increasing confiscation of wealth at the direct expense of the poorest in society? The profiteers like Al Gore himself who lives in his massive mansion paid for by Arab oil money which he sold out to apparently all walk on water band never get called out on the fact that not a single one of their predictions, including Miami FL outdoor be underwater by 2015, or that polar bears are allegedly nearly extinct because of CC when the truth is their population is thriving. Fake data abounds when it comes to CC, but if you aren’t willing to look at the data that was faked on your side of the argument, it’s not very fair to claim that his data is fake…is it?
Literally, every single politician and scientist who’s telling us the “sky is falling” because of CO2 has their hand out and is profiteering and digging deep into your back pocket, but you don’t question for a moment their motives? Really?
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H. L. Mencken, a trenchant journalist and commentator who lived about 100 years ago, once observed that: "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary." People and politics haven't changed all that much since his time.
You couldn't quote it better!
Fun quote, and I've used it too, but Patrick Moore is not an expert, has no clue what he is talking about, and there is overwhelming scientific evidence that humans caused all recent global warming, and that global warming, resulting climate disruption, and the excess CO2 (ocean acidification) all pose an urgent threat to the future of life on earth. We have long past the point where it would have been cheaper and better for humans and other species if we were already rapidly de-carbonizing our economy.
Thank you for that but of info
The reality is much worse than they are telling the public.
the climate alarmists and extremist, including politicians, will do more to harm humanity in the next 30 to 50 years with their claims and actions than any climate event over the next 500 years
BIG THANK YOU PATRICK YOUR TALKING PERFECT SENSE, IRISH 🇮🇪 VIEWER
Any person with true intellect will listen to this and be relieved that they have been thinking the same way, CO2 is not bad; it is not pollution.
you might this about this as all the government knows that co2 is not pollution ..and with net zero will kill every living plant on earth and below the oceans ..and the government officials know this to be true ..without plants we have no food period ..but before that will happen we will run to low of oxygen because dead plants dont make oxygen ..there is only one future for all of us and every living animal and plant and that is total extinction ..but wont the elite and all government suffocate to death with all of us ???? NO THEY WILL NOT as they have the biggest fall out shelter you could ever image with hydroponic gardens as big as small cities making and the food and fresh oxygen all 500 million of them will ever need ..were do you think all the carbon dioxide is going deep underground to keep it safe from us ..its got to be the hardest job the elite have to keep a straight face watching us kill ourselves while giving them our only life force so we all get to suffocate to death saving the elite what would have been a problem getting rid of us themselves ...now that you truly believe im batshit crazy ..explain whats going on in a more sane way ..not to mention the covid vaccine has polyethylene glycol as one of the main ingredients ..have you tested your car's coolant for the winter ? it should some covid vaccine in it to... we call it antifreeze ..now go real what antifreeze does to your internal organs , and you will fined the covid vaccine giving the same symptoms to people after they take the jabe as drinking antifreeze for your car's radiator ...but what is very alarming 280,000 americans and not one ask what is in the covid vaccine ..THEY ALL HAVE BECOME NO SMARTER THAN LAB RATS
..and yet our insane federal government in Canada is now making tv commercials calling this BS a "climate crisis".
Any person with true intellect doesn't NEED to listen to this. They already know.
@@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful The problem is that there are too few with true intellect, but way too many who are easily brainwashed with all the climate change bullshit.
As with anything the dose makes the poison. At 1400 ppm no inc in plant net photosynthate can be expected. But if we drive CO2 levels to 800 ppm kiss your ass goodbye because agric as we experience it today will end. Keep in mind that all living organisms live within a rather narrow range of temps and are adapted to particular climate regimes. If those conditions change radically they die or migrate. Already this has been documented for many species.
The Ocean Cleanup has removed 17 million pounds of trash from the invisible Pacific Garbage patch. Mostly fishing nets and other flotsam. I think thats a good thing.
Same. However, with that being said The Great Garbage Patch is practically invisible. Think logically and mathematically. There’s an estimated 2.9 sextillion pounds of ocean water. The great garbage patch Ocean Cleanup is working on is an estimated 160 million pounds. That’s something like a 55 pounds of garbage to 10,000,000,000,000 pounds of ocean water relationship, or 0.000000000000055%. For all intents and purposes it’s invisible. I might be off by a zero my calculator was bugging out but even if it’s off by several more zeros, it’s statistically irrelevant. With that being said, I’m sentimentally all for what they are doing, I just think it matters not what they are doing.
@@mitten97 Nice job. I recently read "fake invisible catastrophes and the threat of doom" by one of the founding members of Greenpeace. Everything we know about climate change isn't what it seems. I think we all can agree that conserving and respecting the planet it a good thing, but the climate crazies are out if control. C02 makes up .04% of the earth's atmosphere and human activity makes up a tiny fraction of that. They say thay stopping climate change is to save lives? WTO estimates that 250k people die from "climate change" every year. Yet 8 million people die from smoking. If it's was all about saving lives they would ban smoking which would also good for environment. Haahah. I like c02. Make the planet greener.
As Dr. Moore suggested, not dreaded plastic. Should we do a better job handling our waste? Absolutely! However, let's stop the hysterical lies.
@@michaelr6219 absolutely.
Of course, no one should have a problem w/ cleaning the trash but don’t lie about the Why of it. Don’t litter on land, don’t litter the ocean
THERE IS NO. ARBON OR CLIMATE DISASTER. PATRICK MOORE IS AN HONEST MAN
OK MARGARET...DO YOU KNOW HIM PERSONALLY? lol
I do not know him, the climate disaster is looming it is the volcano, and to boot we are entering a very dusty and dangerous part of the galaxy current sheet and our magnetic field is weak. If our sun sneezes from that (micro nova) and or our poles, which are already on excursion, flip we may yet have a climate disaster which is considerably more action packed than warming a degree or two over the next century or two. Another thing considerably worse than that slight warming and already under way is cold, cold like you cannot fathom unless you been to Yakutsk. We ARE still in an interglacial period in the middle of an ice age. Rendering fears of warming ridiculous and quite insane really. I really hope and pray the the cold deniers are right.
The disaster is the political response
The biggest effects known to earth`s climate are the sun, large volcanic eruptions, and space impacts. The latter two are FAR more common than the population has been told but the terrifying information is there for those who seek it. Two major events were 536 A.D. and The Year Without A Summer. Either of these would cause mass starvation and kill hundreds of millions from extreme cold if they happened right now. And another extreme threat facing everyone are solar radiation events. There is clear evidence in tree rings of solar outbursts 100,000 times more powerful than the Carrington Event and they happen like clockwork. Another horrifying problem facing us all is the coming phase of ZERO SUNSPOT ACTIVITY in the coming years that is expected to last decades and according to NASA will begin in just a few years. Huge volcanic eruptions are expected and our electric grid will likely be completely destroyed. @@jackdeniston59
Mt Etna's burp puts 10.000 times more CO2 into the atmosphere than mankind's entire existence on earth. There are 3000 active volcanoes, soon all of them will go off if the sun releases the electro magnetic fault locks.
As a traditional biologist and professional forestor, Patri ck confirms my long-held views on so called climate science. He is an epitome of natural science and talks with so much confidence simplicity, clarity, humour and grace. Thanx to him. I am glad I have been reserved on climate science snd now have no regrets.
if you are a biologist then you know already that net zero will absolutely cause an extinction of all life on this planet ..and its starting to show is it not ???????? YOU ARE ONE OF THEM ARE YOU NOT ? got you a cozy apartment down stairs do ya ? until the smell goes away after the sheeple all suffocate to death ? i happen to be a botanist
Lol, so what you are saying is that you have always been decided on what you believe about climate science, and have just finally found someone with a title who agrees with you?
Well done, a working scientific mind at its finest!
@@knettedwings of You net Zero freaks keep pulling carbon dioxide out of the air there won't be anything to worry about cause there won't be anyone left alive
you might want to ask why we have around 40 active volcanoes going off at the same time and what caused the inner core of the earth to stop spinning last summer as the so called scientist have not got a clue but i do ! the giant red woods in California are 3000 years old but today they are dying from the tops down ..again the so called forest rangers d not have a clue , but i do ! 95% of the kelp forest at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean are dead and gone for ever so is most of the sea weed that was at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean are all dead and washing up on beaches every where.. the world is dying little by little every day right under your noses and you are not smart enough to notice
FDR ," THE ONLY THING WE HAVE TO FEAR IS FEAR ITSELF .."
CLIMATARD FEAR 😨..!
I was always against nuclear energy ( I’m from NZ) he has truly made me re think this, seriously.
Thank you for thinking 🤔
I've been reconsidering and agree with you. (NZ)
Me too and also from NZ. 🙏🏼
Nuclear energy is the clean energy and if we ever get to "fusion"than this will be the best energy without "spent rods",but overall still Nuclear energy is the best in present time
Me too.
One of the greatest "green" projects here in the UK is the Drax power station which used to bring coal by canal boats from the nearby coal mines but this was stopped and instead they now import wood pellets from Canada meaning thousands of trees are cut down. It now appears that scientists have found this creates more harmful pollution than when coal was used
Wow! Who would have thunk?
In the Netherlands, many billions are spent on the construction of filthy bioplants.
Entire shiploads of wood have to be imported for this, because of course we have far too few trees in our small country.
Of course they knew that this causes more filth than coal-fired power stations, but they just keep going.
That is the result of the environmental mafia and governments that do not care at all about their population and that they bring in a lot of money.
This imbecile crime has struck worldwide.
You are right, the so-called renewable energy produced by Drax is a con, a scam, a greenwash. But the politics around burning so called "biofuels" and the stupidity evident in Drax does nothing to disprove the science of global warming as stupidity and global warming are not mutually exclusive. Most ecologists and environmentalists fully understand this and are as strongly critical of the Drax power station.
@@jockmoron Most environmentalists are liars and then there is no turning back for scared people.
What most people say should never be confused with the truth.
They are parrots and are very easy to indoctrinate and believe anything that seems most likely because they have been scared.
Remember: War happens when politics tells you who your enemy is.
Revolution happens when you see for yourself who your enemy is.
Politics creates the biggest lies, war and a lot of misery in a population.
Environmental activists along with the government are telling us all sorts of things.
Do you think they do not understand that eg bio-fired power stations are dirtier than coal-fired power stations?
Tens of billions are spent in the Netherlands on bio-fired power stations and shiploads full of wood come from South America to burn it in.
Do you agree with that ?
They clearly have different interests, because cutting down huge amounts of forests can't really be the intention, can they?
There's nothing green about burning carbon-based fuels, whether they be wood or coal. We have to de-carbonize the whole economy.
This should be required watching in all schools and universities!.
For a good laugh.
Yeah! in Afghanistan, haha, that'll really mess with their heads!
Replace drag-queen story time with this video !
Fascinating, I wish the teenagers of today could be educated in line with this wonderful man’s teachings
I hope not. He's an energy spokesman, not a climate scientist, and he has been widely debunked in the scientific literature.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 "He's an energy spokesman, not a climate scientist, and he has been widely debunked in the scientific literature."
Serious claims there. Any evidence to support them?
@@terryboyer1342 Moore works on behalf of the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is, for example, the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by energy industry executives and conservative climate denial groups to promote the use of more gas and oil. Check their website and see for yourself.
Moore has also worked on behalf of the Nuclear Energy Institute, Asia Pulp and Paper (a logging firm), the CASEnergy Coalition, the Canadian Mining Association, the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, Westcoast Energy and B.C. Gas, PVC manufacturer IPEX, and BHP Minerals.
Moore isn't a climate scientist. His degree is in forest ecology, but he is not a forest ecologist, he's a paid spokesman for industry.
Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing.
The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel.
They should.
Coal mining engineer and climate denier Monte Heib took historical CO2 data and historical temperature data and slapped them together in a hand-drawn graph and assumed this was an accurate depiction of earth's climate history. It wasn’t. But deniers and skeptics have posted and re-posted his famous graph thousands of times across the internet. It has ZERO scientific validity, as you would expect from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing.
The data he used was in time steps of ten million years, too long to determine correlations between CO2 and temps. (Climate scientists today use time steps of 500,000 years.) He also neglected to add the effects of a sun that increases its output as it evolves over hundreds of millions of years.
Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;)
Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Morever, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE.
Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses?
The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites?
Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
See more of his fact-checks here:
thetyee.ca/Analysis/2021/06/04/Fact-Checking-Patrick-Moore-Climate-Skeptic/
See also RESPONSE TO PATRICK MOORE'S 'WHAT THEY HAVEN'T TOLD YOU ABOUT CLIMAE CHANGE"
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481pull your head out of your ass.
Forward this to all your friends and relatives so they will also know. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!
Nothing works better than the truth.
How does this not have a million views???
There's not that many people with Downs Syndrome...
"How does this not have a million views???" Perhaps because it is blatant corporate-funded misinformation. Anyone with a decent knowledge of climate science quickly sees through this propaganda, including the laughable mis-use of that chart around the 13:23 mark.
Because youtube is liberal
People would have to admit the truth....and they could not handle the truth
Easy unswer-will blown up their climate narrative !!!their power will go down with their BS.!!!
Listening to Dr Patrick Moore, is like breathing fresh air after you have had a massive asthma attack and I speak from personal experience.
The analogy of the asthma, is from hearing the BBC, Sky UK, and ITV propaganda.
Also The Guardian newspaper that is heavily funded by Bill Gates.
Yeah I think we got the analogy ;)
Everyone should realize it starts in your mind and then manifest
Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, NOT mainly caused by human activities, especially NOT by the burning of fossil fuels.
I learned from this lecture to look at things from a new angle that I have never thought of. Actually, I learned much more than that. Thank you very much, Dr. Moore.
Want to learn about another lie? Look up the truth on recycling. It’s a huge lie.
First in the 70s mr spock told i was going to freeze to death.
Second in the 80s i was told i'm living in a greenhouse heating up to death.
In there i was told there's a hole in the ozone layer right above australia.
But all of that was directional and too specific to predict.
How about we hedge our bets and just say,
the climate is changing.
yeah they're right.
I believe in climate change.
Day is warmer than night.
Dr. Patrick Moore is the man. Science and logic, no fads, no politics or ideology, no listening to silly little school girls but science and experience.
Actually, he has little clue what he is talking about and has for years made a living by saying unscientific things that make dangerous products look safer than they are. Rapid man-made global warming, climate disruption, and ocean acidification actually DO pose an urgent threat to the future of life on Earth, and there's a mountain of science proving that.
And Michael Mann, who is a Lysenkoist, is not the man, perhaps not even a man at all.
@@michaelw3927 "And Michael Mann, who is a Lysenkoist". ??? Over two dozen climate reconstruction studies have confirmed the general hockey stick shape of past global temps. In short, the best scientific research has repeatedly proven Michael Mann was right. Just read the science.
@@karlwheatley1244 the models are mostly bunk I’d argue . There’s a few modelers that worked on some talk about and some from the climate gate papers essentially fudging data massaging it . I’ll see if I can find his name again . I’d suggest listening to him talk to lindzen and other top scientists talk about it
The guy in this video has only proven his early onset dementia… and that he received a large donation from fossil fuel companies.
What a relief to hear a rational, scientific rebuttal to the climate alarmists. Patrick Moore is a mensch. Thank you so much.
He's a prisoner like the rest of them.
Ozone layer depletion is the issue.
The only reason for the devastating
forest fires around the globe these days.
He knows all about it, and, like the rest
of them, he says nothing.
California and London get wildfires but your relieved to hear "rational" rebuttal that doesn't address what's happening?
@@jeffmoore9487 Here's some "rational" rebuttal burn data for U...
th-cam.com/video/oSknDKxZaEg/w-d-xo.html
@@jeffmoore9487 you ever thought that environmental mismanagement such as water control, destruction of natural habitats and species, and a lack of pollution control have an effect. Or are we just going to blame it on an "overabundance" of a naturally occurring gas? When the truth is pulled over your eyes, will you recognize that your being lied to or will you double down on the lies you've been led to believe? Will you be the change you wish to see, or go along with the status quo, one designed to subvert your attention from real issues we face?
@@xxRamD3yruxx You must have misread my post.
Love the guy, it's all about the science, which is the truth, 👍👌👍
I'm glad i found this man, thank you sir. for now on i'll no longer believed every little things media shoved me. I'll spread your words
Patrick Moore represents the 0.1% who reject the 99.9% consensus. You have every right to take his side but know why the majority reject his views before you do.
I hope more people understand this story.
But that will be very difficult, because after many years of hearing lies, these lies have become truth in your brain and it is then very difficult to realize that you have always believed nonsense
It's called "brainwashing". Television advertisers and politicians use it very effectively all the time.
This video is the lies
@@generationfallout5189
At the poles you see large lakes, where the ice has melted.
Holes hundreds of meters deep have been found into which water flows.
Sea ice is also melting on a large scale in Antarctica.
This is impressive, but all the heat comes from below and is localized.
The greenhouse effect gives heat from above and is not the cause of this at all because that is not local at the poles, but no effect has been observed.
These few facts alone indicate that humanity is greatly cheated with the story of CO2.
You have to know the real cause of climate change and that is the oceans.
You can then easily understand why the oceans change the climate and people can't change that, so almost everyone lies on a massive scale about the cause, because then there is a lot to earn.
There is a reason why 1 billion dollars a day is spent on CO2 .
Be very careful who you call a liar, for these are just a few of the many I can name.
@@heinpereboom5521 everyday humanity creates mountains of plastic using it once and throwing it out. All that plastic has to go somewhere. And it definitely has an effect. It doesn’t just disappear because that’s what you would like to believe. Well it’s exactly the same with greenhouse gas. It doesn’t just drift off into space. It has an effect. Everything is about balance here on earth. Too much of anything will hurt you. It’s about looking after the planet. It’s about striving for the right balance. Drowning in waste products isn’t balanced… it does lead to death and destruction. It’s not rocket surgery.
@@generationfallout5189
Oh yes, people are huge perverts everywhere and thunder down everywhere, everyone can see that.
Unfortunately, you can't judge what is happening on a global scale if you don't do any research yourself.
CO2 is not the greenhouse gas that warms the earth, there is already too much for that in the atmosphere and the effects are now negligible, only then you need to know the real measurements of CO2 and the effect and much more in physics.
Let me reassure you, water vapor gives 95% of the greenhouse effect and is caused by evaporation from the oceans and that determines climate.
Exactly the same heat that melts large areas at the poles.
Maybe never seen that this is local and warmed up from below?
Why would a large soup of plastic float in the middle of the ocean?
You can't control that?
You can if you think about how it should get there.
Yes, the climate is changing, but people can do nothing about it and then there is nothing to earn from it. and THAT is also to be checked.
If you hear through the media for years how the world is being destroyed by man, you cannot help but believe that this is the case.
It is impossible for almost everyone to look for the truth themselves, because it has apparently already been found according to the media.
No one is really critical anymore and THAT is the biggest problem.
You will now also call me a climate denier and a conspiracy theorist, I'm pretty sure.
What a blessing to hear this! I share his passion for radical truth, sense making, and mindful deep thinkers.
It is reassuring to know some free speech still exists and that there are institutions who still believe in first principles! I must get out more :)
You are bewitched.
@@brucedressel8873
Better than being brainwashed…
His central idea is that Co2 and global temperature don't track together. I'm not a scientist but I check several websites (NASA, ACS, and EIS) and he seems to be alone in believing Co2 and temperature aren't closely related.
@@jeffmoore9487 Indeed. And the graph of CO2 and temperature he presented was not only inaccurate, but it took no account of the changes in the sun's output, which over that vast timescale was very significant. No-one with any knowledge of climate science would expect a correlation between temperature and CO2 at that scale without taking the sun's changes (and also, at times, major changes in albedo) into account. When that is done the correlation is obvious. Patrick Moore is just presenting a straw-man argument.
Potholer has debunked that kind of argument here: th-cam.com/video/OJ6Z04VJDco/w-d-xo.html at 5min40sec ff.
@@Tengooda Brilliant. Consider it stolen. That kind of presentation is priceless. I've found old travel documents of people roaming around Palestine very useful for those who've been told Palestine never existed. We live in a weird moment of "facts". Thanks.
A fantastic speech . Glad I listened to it. I’m definitely going to recommend this for other people to listen to
Do ask yourself why 99.9% of publishing climate scientists disagree with his point of view. Then ask why TEN separate studies have confirmed a 97% or higher consensus and why 80 academies of science and ALL of the world's major scientific institutions endorse the consensus findings. Is it the world's PhD-level climate scientists who are wrong, or Patrick Moore, who is a forest ecologist and energy spokesman, not a climate scientist, and who has been widely debunked in the literature?
Thank you I agree totally with you
YOU GET. IT. SPILL. THE. 🫘
Love having you on the Job and on the side of sanity.
Attenborough claiming walruses were committing suicide is reminiscent of the Disney film crew in the 60s saying how Lemmings were committing suicide as the were driving them off the cliff themselves.
Did you watch the Attenborough film to which Patrick refers? Patrick's depiction is NOT accurate. There are things he's claiming that film said that it did NOT.
@@Je-Lia I watched it. Attenborough has been spreading lies for years. He’s not an expert on the subject. He’s a narrator. You should learn to tell the difference between real science and propaganda
@@Je-Lia Attenbourgh like his brother is a professional actor he is just narrating. It is well produced propaganda but still propaganda.
@@dmanliberty3136 Agreed Attenbourgh like his brother is a professional actor he is just narrating.
@@Je-Lia Attenborough is a puppet for the globalists. He has a degree in economics which is why he promotes their propaganda. Climategate is a politically driven campaign based on profit and power. There's no science behind it. All profit driven pseudoscience BS.
Dr. Patrick Moore is a great Canadian intellectual voice against the industrial climate tyranny or climate mass formation.
He spent most of his life raising baby monsters, then he became shocked that they grew up to be monsters. Not exactly a great guy imo.
Climate Mass formation?
@@chuckdimuro4561 A climate mass formation is a cloud or the great barrier reef?
His central idea is that Co2 and global temperature don't track together. I'm not a scientist but I check several websites (NASA, ACS, and EIS) and he seems to be alone in believing Co2 and temperature aren't closely related.
@@jeffmoore9487 well that clears that right up. Thought sure he was trying to say mass formation psychosis induced through psychological warfare techniques perpetrated by sociopaths with suitcases full of money
Patrick Moore, Tony Heller, William Happer...🙏🙏🙏we are blessed with truth when these men speak❣️
I did Ecology Course in UK in 1970s. My compulsory textbook was The Limits To Growth book published by The Club of Rome in 1972. I was an active environmentalist for many years. I have been active in the forestry sector as well. My views now are very much like Dr Patrick Moore's.
Patrick Moore though? THe famous liar?
Can you prove Dr. Moore is a liar.
Excellent presentation -- should be shown in all high schools and colleges.
Sez the man who eats his own boogers.
th-cam.com/video/ovKw6YjqSfM/w-d-xo.html
Imagine a (western) world where THAT would happen.
@Nancy Rocks Time for an administrative change.
No more Greta thornbergs to mislead our children but an actual climate scientist with truth
What a great antidote to the fear mongering we keep hearing about. That you Dr Moore.
Every day human activity pumps out 27,397,260 tons of CO2, CH4, N20, and Fluorinated gases. People who don't think it matters aren't scientists and don't know where to get data.
What an inconvenient truth for the green new deal
@@larryellis5675 Weather chaos is the inconvinience. It's killing folks.
@@jeffmoore9487 The lecture starts with a fake claim of ignorance (it's called a boom) and then misrepresents the meaning of the graph comparing CO2 concentration with global temperature.
Need I watch any more?
Here is an honest representation of climate change facts.
th-cam.com/video/Yze1YAz_LYM/w-d-xo.html
@@jeffmoore9487 More people died from weather events 60 & 100 years ago than today . . . What's Your POINT man ?
More people die every winter in Europe from the COLD . . . few die from Heat . . . why is that?
That’s an eye opener! Wake up people, be smart don’t let yourself being manipulated 💪
Thanks to Mr. Moore and all that assisted him in his career and put this most informative presentation together.
Dr. Moore is exceptionally brave.
@@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 This charlatan needs to be brave, brazenly pedaling all his bull s*** with misinformation and doctored, disingenuous graphs to make money. He's lucky some young person hasn't bumped him off already.
@@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 No he gets his money as a consultant and lobbyist for large corporations. He sold out long ago.
I proudly identify as Carbon Positive. 😎 Thanks Dr. Moore.
This is an awesome rational anaslysis of history rather than an emotional 'prediction' of the future
Actually, it's blatant misinformation: There's a mountain of great scientific evidence proving humans caused all recent warming, that warming is already hurting people, ecosystems, and nations, and that failing to stop further man-made global warming threatens our future.
I never agreed with Greenpeace but I do agree with Dr Moore on this.
I love Alex and Patrick so much. I am motivated to start my own channel talking about this stuff. People need to know
Scientific evidence clearly presented. Please keep doing what you are doing, Sir.
Follow IPCC. Not industrialists.
@@nix_0333
IPCC fabricated data, and that’s proven.
@@nix_0333 How credible is the IPCC if they have to constantly change their models and refuse to admit that the feedback formula has been incorrectly used by them to calculate climate change?
They don't give normal messages, but only alarmist messages, that scares people, especially when a lot of forest is on fire again, which is 90% caused by humans.
There are plenty of people who believe that wood burns at 80 degrees Celsius.
I can assure you that this is about 350 degrees, it has not yet become that hot because of the sun.
When it gets warmer, it's drier and then it burns quickly when you play with fire.
The climate just changes, just like it always did, but nobody looks up that data and what is presented is almost always a lie.
Pseudo science rules.
@@nix_0333 What kind of world do you live in?
Perhaps you will understand that if you first take a good look at your own world.
This was Awesome and very enlightening, finding out my common sense was 100% correct.
Thank you for this.
You are just believing what you want to believe instead of what is. You are too weak to handle the harsh truth.
You should try looking at some actual science.
@@RichardRoy2 You mean computer model predictions?🤡
@@martinsanders5418 No, I mean established peer reviewed science on the effects of CO2 on temperature. Not the nonsense from Mr Moore. th-cam.com/video/9XIpTqbLR5Y/w-d-xo.html
@@RichardRoy2 If that political b/s is enough to convince you of impending doom, well, good luck to you, you obviously have a need for it.
Thank you Dr. Moore ! I have been distracted by fears of CO2 build-up in the atmosphere as accurately measured by the Keelings. Yes, it is building up, but that is apparently a good thing for ocean life, and plant growth on land. Now I can focus on real problems and combusting plastic and other waste to electric power is one of them. (By the way, your power plant diagram should also show stack gas analyzers in case the combustion process goes off-spec.)
And yes. I worked for 3 years in early 1970s so I know a lot of what Dr. Moore is talking about.
So much fundamental truths and common sense in one presentation. The insanity of climate alarmism must be stopped.
So many lies and b.s more like
@@generationfallout5189 he provided evidence. You're just spewing your religious beliefs based on what you've been told. Get your head out of the sand and do some actual research yourself. It's really not that hard to find the truth. Or, just keep being an ignorant sheep.
green peace of his time were heroes to me thank you.
This needs to be in the main stream media weekly for a long time period. If any have the courage to broadcast it.
To their credit, mainstream media actually fact-checks Moore, which is why they don't put him front and center of the climate debate. The graph at 12:00 minute mark was concocted by coal mining engineer Monte Heib, in an attempt to discredit climate scientists. It has ZERO basis in scientific reality, as you would expect from someone completely untrained in climate science. Moore knows its invalid but continues to use it in his presentations anyway. That's only the tip of the iceberg of his dishonesty. I'd love to show you more.
Exactly ...!
@@AllenBarclayAllen The mainstream media reports the science accurately. The videos and propaganda you watch do not, and that includes Patrick Moore, a paid spokesman for the energy industry, not a climate scientist.
It will never happen, they have to report the agenda their over lords give them. They don’t do any ACTUAL journalism.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481😂😂 you mean the green energy that is supported by the globalist billionaires? Those guys are not on his side, so he’s definitely not profiting off of this. I’m more concerned with the industries run by the billionaires, like the people who attend the WEF.
Good to see Moore's TRUTH available!
Dr Patrick Moore is an environmentalist and researcher who refutes popular myths on global warming! Well done.
Patrick Moore has common sense
Dementia more like.
Yeah, just like how he said Glyphosate was safe to drink but then refused to even take a sip
And scientific proof!
A youtube 'Context warning" for this is absurd. Best non political discussion on CO2 I have seen. Actual science with facts to back it up. Thank you. Also everyone who likes this should share it with those who consume mainstream media as the definitive truth. I will.
People need to realize it actually is Political because its only 1 side fighting back against the other side thats promoting it. I know some Politician's in the Republican sphere has flopped & decided to profit off it but the Lefts position on this is 100% in favor of believing the idea that humans are killing the Earth which is nonsense. So if anyone out there knows this is a huge scam & its having huge consequences on your everyday life they need to vote Republican & let it be known why they are doing it. Politician's usually just latch onto what ever the popular issue is on either side & this issue needs to be front & center on the Right. I want to hear more politician's call it an out right HOAX like Trump did. If people don't stand up now it will become accepted truth but an overwhelming majority of the population & when that happens your screwed. Really if people just stand on there Constitutional Rights they couldn't get away with this but thats not happening either. We are headed back to the days of human sacrifice for rain.
Dr. Moore confirms what chicken little was talking about Thanks for the lesson
Patrick does not get the coverage he deserves
Agree. And so more need to help spread the word ... I am trying myself ... th-cam.com/video/DNeujL1IoCA/w-d-xo.html
Zero chance he'll get coverage, his truth bombs just don't fit the BBC's alarmist narrative
@@richardmacey3619 Then we'll just have to help spread the word ... th-cam.com/video/DNeujL1IoCA/w-d-xo.html
I just mentioned his name on some Tucker vs bill nye.
th-cam.com/video/ovKw6YjqSfM/w-d-xo.html
Mr.Moore reminds me of the stories about the great scientists who went against the ‘Al Gore’ of their day and were ostracized for going against ‘science’
Just say "pseudo science".
Or the Vatican officials who wanted to bring Galileo up on charges of heresy for suggesting that the earth orbited the sun, not vice versa!
DONT FORGET THAT WAS 20 YEARS AGO, WE NOW HAVE NEW DATA TO DIGEST AND MAKE BETTER DECISIONS,
@@domcizek what was 20 years ago ? Patrick Moore’s New Book , Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom ? These scientists don’t create theatre productions , they travel the world , they see with their eyes , they take core samples of the Antarctic ice , read the book , or look up his interviews , get a 2nd perspective ,
@@hanzketchup859 COAL AND OIL MUST BE SAVED FOR THE NEXT ICE AGE, ALTHOUGH, IT MAY BE MILD DUE TO ALL THE CO2 AND METHANE SPEWING OUT NOW, ALSO, ALL THE METHANE FROM ALL THE PERMAFROST MELTING THAT HAS BEEN STABLE FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS, ,
Just found this and what a relief to heard someone sensible.
He uses a fake climate graph at the 12:06 mark. It was slapped together by a mining engineer, not a climate scientist.
Heartbreaking story of the seal mother, thank God for people like you ❤
Beware of Moore's cherry-picked data, fake climate graphs, verbal sleight of hand and little lies of omission. Moore is the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. Moore is not a climate scientist. Although his degree is in forest ecology, he's not a forest ecologist. He's a a long-time spokesman for the energy industry.
Another top talk from Patrick.
As a geologist, Dr. Moore is the only person publicly distributing actual geological science depicting the history of the planet. Low CO2 is going to end life as we know it on this planet.
I think he's an ecologist. A life guy, not a stones guy.
@Gerald, yes, but there is not a big chance of that happening, because at high altitude the co2 content is much lower due to the low air density (0.26 gram/m³) so we already have plants starving of lack of co2, And the awareness that co2 is essential, and should be increased is being recognized by the growing population living around lake Titicaca. Reasonable people will put an end to this zero emmission tour de force, pushed by scientific illiterate politicians.
One of the major sorces of industrial co2 is the cement industry, building will not stop, calcium carbonate is applenty (Limestone).
There is also a neglected source of co2, volcanos, as just happened in Tonga, pretty massive expulsion of the gas of life, with some less desirable gases, of course.
Me, I am against the emission of carbon from truck diesel engines.
why? A diesel engine's high compression results in very high combustion temperatures, well exceeding 1000 °C, the product is H2O and CO, not CO2, yet, when during the downstrike of the piston, the temperature falls below ~800 ° C, the Bouduard reaction takes place :
2 CO decompose to CO2 + C, soot, true carbon and the beneficial CO2.
The soot is the objectionable carbon, not it's oxide CO2.
@@arturoeugster2377
Wow! (And I don't mean that in a good way).
@@hosnimubarak8869
first amendment: you are entitled to your opinion . Care to be more specific ?
@@arturoeugster2377
" we already have plants starving of lack of co2 ". [citation needed].
Yes, they can cry. Animals can understand you. Even Bumblebees can: I saved one from being caught from a spider. When I had already forgotten all about this, as I was about putting the clothes on the line to dry, I heard a lot of noise around my left side. I paid no attention to it. Well, suddenly the Bumblebee touched my right hand and flew away. It was then when it came to mind the day I saved a Bumblebee. It touched the hand that saved it !
Thank you for stopping the factory whaling, & helping stop the nuclear testing as well as stopping the horror agains the baby seals.
Thank you so much Dr.Moore. Very insightful and fact filled speech.
Very educational need more people like him to speak up. Need to teach in school's every where.
Every day human activity pumps out 27,397,260 tons of CO2, CH4, N20, and Fluorinated gases. People who don't think it matters aren't scientists and don't know where to get data.
The government and teacher's union control education. That would never happen.
then everybody can be mis-informed
@@eppurse The UN & the IPCC has been lying to the world for decades now . . .
IPCC has been Wrong for decades . . . as the globe cools.
@@eppurse What are your qualifications? They must be pretty impressive for you to know more than a man with a Ph.D. in biology.
Thank you for this fine presentation. It's always nice to watch real documentaries by real educated and experienced people for a change on this platform. The truth is getting harder to find every day. Thank you for posting.
Are you sure it's the truth?
Patrick Moore for President! So love him. The voice reason in a mad world.
would love to see Patrick Moore and Ian Plimer get together and have a chat, would sell out the MCG. He is 10000% right, simple primary school science. Can't beat Physics!
Apparently a woke agenda can trump real science and common sense.!! Laughing
Thank you for making this available on yt.
Heart breaking such cruelty to the seals and animal kingdom. Green peace were amazing 👏 🙌. Thank you Patrick for your commitment.
The black an white photo of them in a motar boat going after the whaling boats is the most bad ass picture I've ever seen.
Love that YT disclaimer. I would be clueless without it.
Patrick does an outstanding job explaining the climate change phenomenon. It's really unfortunate that many of our worrisome youth will not view this video. Based on the lack of viewership, it has become apparent to me that this video has been supressed by the search algorhythms.
Here is an even better video Search for Patrick Moore, RoundUp.
Humans love a good story and a vital element is THE END. Without knowing the end, we feel empty, disappointment, a little cheated. Understanding this hard immutable fact is vital in understanding the gloom and doom crowd.
Awesome, Dr Moore, thank you.
The founder of GreenPeace helps to clarify our modern ecological situation.
I researched to part about the great Barrier reef and he is bang on in what he says and
now the evidence has become overwhelming and lines up exactly with what he says.
I also checked on his depiction of the Ice ages and the relations between temperature and CO2
and again what he said held up to scrutiny.
Patrick Moore is not (and was not) "The [or a] founder of GreenPeace".
@@Tengoodayes he was, moron
My knowledge of miss information was damn near complete. I could have been a professor of miss information had it not been for Dr. Moore. It's a shame he interrupted my fanciful dream of saving the world by eliminating 90% of the human population, even if that included you. But, he did enlighten me and because of that I can get off my God throne and take joy in the fact you are living, and so is the rest of the kingdom of life. Thank you, Dr. Moore.
Watching again on our Green catastrophe King's coronation today 6th May 2023!!!! wish he would learn!!!
hi Patrick I know that view from your balcony I lived in comox 35 years thanks for your fighting this bs
Thank you Patrick, this session was very informative for myself, and i left informed and better educated - thanks from humanity...
Actually, you might want to find alternative sources. This might be a good starting point...th-cam.com/play/PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP.html
It would be if there was any truth in what he said carbon dioide or co2 does not cause climate change you have been lied to the earth heats up and cools down its the sun and volcanic activity.Instead of listening to this man do some resarch of your own you do not have to go back to far in history to find in queen victoria,s reign there was a mini ice age this was down to cracatoa a volcano the earth is cooling and has been for the last 20 years so dont be fooled by so called government scientists they lie because they are paid to. Glaciers are growing not shrinking yes you get some melting it happens every summer at the poles sea levels are not rising either do you not find it strange that islands they said would be under water are not do you not see in europe they are having the coldest winter in 50years in sweeden alone they have had 11/2 meters of snow in america the midwest is having one of their coldest winters Australia
has had one of its wetest years this is due to a warm continent being met by extreeme cold air i dont want to go on but people have to start using their inteligence instead of just listening to others
@@robertsimkin3949 "Do your own research..." I haven't got the lab or resources to collect all the data that's been amassed by the scientific community, so could you post your research? Just post a link to your peer reviewed papers. I'd be particularly interested in the ones that won you a nobel prize for overturning the science that shows CO2 to be a greenhouse gas. I must have missed the block buster news story about that when it came out. Thanks.
@@RichardRoy2 I'm just like you mate, I'm just not intellectually capable of researching climate data and scientific papers, so like you, I just accept what the authorities tell me. It's really cool, because it saves me having to read and ponder all that complicated science stuff, and only have to worry about just how 💩💩 every human being is, and that the end is nigh.
However, like you, virtue signalling gives me a great sense of relief, and compensates adequately for the energy I use for central heating, cooking, bathing, travel etc, along with the fact that virtually all I own and eat has used lots of fossil fuels in order to reach me.
Doing my bit with virtue signalling 😇😊
@@martinsanders5418 LOL We all know we're stuck in a world we didn't create. Change is not something that comes easily. But if the system doesn't change, we're just going over the cliff with it. I know. It's overwhelming, and I'm just one person who is impotent to have an effect, right? I understand. But there are two things that I'd noticed that show that I can have an effect. I watch and learn, and find my mind being changed by others. So, being such an ordinary person, I figure, if I can change, so can others. So that's one thing. The other was being informed by someone that I'd changed their mind on something. So it does happen. Who knows. It may seem small, but you never know if you're going to change someone's mind who has much greater effect than I do in the world. A lot of times, it is a very few people who actually create the needed change. Whether that ends up being for the better or worse, who can tell? So, you take little steps here and there, and wherever you can. If what limited resources, I have allows me to take any kind of steps in that direction, I do what I can. Seeing Moore's crap continue to be peddled and accepted is a little disconcerting, but I expect the fossil fuel industry is having a hard time hiding the fact they're the constructors of the system you and I are caught up in. If you want to diminish what little I do with a strangely seemingly inapplicable label like "virtue signaling" by all means, have at it. I don't agree that every human being is what you see them as. I think you imbue them with qualities that may not be of their own making. But it's much easier to just dismiss everyone to excuse your position. Much easier. Anyways. If you find it difficult to follow the science, sometimes you just have to find someone who can help you grasp it. There are many different presenters of various ideas out there, one of which may touch upon that chord in you that makes the connection that clarifies elements that may have been too hard to surmount previously. Try this. Mr Peter Hadfield was helpful, although I'd had help from others previously in my life. Best of luck to you. And I hope you change your mind about people. th-cam.com/video/9XIpTqbLR5Y/w-d-xo.html
Geoengineering is causing draughts and unusual weather patterns, but no one is talking about that
Finally, finally, brave people like Dr. Patrick Moore have the guts to tell the truth.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Last ice age 10 000 to 12,000 years ago
CO² 12,000PPM . MASIVIVE AMOUNT OF geologist find in earth same plate depth all over the earth of that ice age time ..!
It's pretty simple really.
All the trillions of tons of carboniferous rock as well as the massive coal deposits and oil fields has had to have come from atmospheric carbon dioxide which as a result has progressively decreased over geological time until the point where we came perilously close to the limit below which plants die during the last great glaciation.
Non anthropogenic means of completing the carbon cycle by weathering of these rocks or volcanism are simply too slow to prevent the inexorable decline in atmospheric C02.
The impact of humans in returning carbon dioxide into the atmosphere by combustion of so called fossil fuels are entirely beneficial in helping forestall this mass extinction scenario.
The goal of attempting to get to 'net zero' is completely pointless and represents a complete failure to understand the carbon cycle.
It is notable that all so called climate science fails to recognise the current carbon drought or discuss the critical interplay between atmospheric and geological forms of carbon.
I think it is you that is "pretty simple really" and demonstrate a "complete failure to understand the carbon cycle".
What you say about "climate science fail[ing] to recognise the current carbon drought or discuss the critical interplay between atmospheric and geological forms of carbon" is simply incorrect.
Atmospheric CO2 is currently c.415ppmv c.50% ABOVE the level it was before 1750 (c.277ppmv), when the industrial revolution started. The most ambitious aim of the reduction in CO2 emissions (and carbon sequestration) is to reduce atmospheric CO2 to 350ppmv, which is 80ppmv more than any pre-industrial amount for several thousand years and 50ppmv above any level for at least a million years. To pretend that we are in peril of entering a "mass extinction scenario" by REDUCING CO2 is complete nonsense. The truth is the exact opposite. WE are now adding to atmospheric CO2 at a rate FASTER than at any time in Earth's history (except for the immediate aftermath of the end-Cretaceous asteroid strike that wiped out the dinosaurs). Previous times of rapid CO2 increase HAVE led to mass extinction events.
@@Tengooda Your comment is laughably irrelevant. You are referring to minimal variations in C02 in geological timescales bearing in mind levels have been as much as 8000 ppm and were substantially higher than now at the time of formation of coil and oil deposits due to extremely vigorous plant growth. You are ill-informed if you don't understand the concept of photosynthesis and how it is adversely affected by low levels of atmospheric C02.
Humans have added 1 molecule of C02 per 10 000 molecules of air.
It is pointless you commenting when operating from such a low knowledge base.
@@mrradman2986 Oh dear. I see that I am corresponding with someone suffering from a rather extreme form of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
I presented you with a number of facts about the amount and rate of human caused changes in atmospheric CO2, none of which you are able to refute and all of which are very relevant to our present predicament.
In response you state, "Humans have added 1 molecule of C02 per 10 000 molecules of air." Actually, of course, it is presently around 1.38 molecules of C02 per 10,000 molecules of air that humans have added (415 - 277 = 138).
Apparently, you think that that is such a tiny amount that it makes little or no difference. It obviously hasn't occurred to you that if instead humans had REMOVED 1.38 molecules of CO2 per 10,000 (ie changed the CO2 concentration from 277ppmv in 1750 to 139ppmv now) then the atmosphere would be BELOW the estimated level (150ppmv) at which most plants can continue photosynthesis and thus survive and we would indeed be in severe danger both of starvation and of freezing to death, as a new glaciation would certainly be on the way.
But you can't have it both ways: what is sauce for the cooling, CO2 starved, goose is sauce for the warming and sea level rising gander.
What is really irrelevant to our present predicament is the fact that past atmospheres of much higher CO2 were associated with flourishing plant and animal life, since it is also the RATE OF CHANGE of atmospheric CO2 that stresses ecosystems and also cause stratification of the oceans ie the surface layer becomes much warmer and therefore less dense and, as a result, ocean circulation, which presently takes oxygen rich waters to the depths, ceases and ocean acidification, anoxia and euxinia take hold - complex life in the oceans dies and sulphur bacteria proliferate producing toxic hydrogen sulphide which eventually escapes into the atmosphere, poisoning terrestrial life and destroying the ozone layer, thus allowing UV light to penetrate to the Earth's surface. That is what has happened before, most notably at the end-Permian Great Dying, when up to 95% of species became extinct.
It is also the case, of course, is that such times of high atmospheric CO2 were also, as a consequence, times with NO permanent ice at the poles. Were we to return to such an atmosphere, sea level would eventually rise by 70 metres.
There are other errors in what you have written thus far, which I have not commented on.
I am prepared to answer your questions and explain matters further, subject to a pronounced change in the tone of your writing.
@@Tengooda Evidence free tautology.
You have not provided any physical justification regarding the 'rate of change' assertion which is an argument you have to resort to given that there is no evidence that the actual amount of the trace gas C02 currently in the atmosphere is harmful to life.
It is undeniable that an analysis of climate models reveals that all overestimate the effect of C02 forcing. As ever the science is not settled but still being done. Scientific method relies on and welcomes sceptical challenge, consensus is merely politics.
@@mrradman2986
1. Tautology: don't be absurd.
2. Rate of change? See Geological Society of London, Lyell Collection, Journal of the Geological Society, 2020:
"the current speed of human-induced CO2 change and warming is nearly without precedent in the entire geological record, with the only known exception being the instantaneous, meteorite-induced event that caused the extinction of non-bird-like dinosaurs 66 million years ago. In short, whilst atmospheric CO2 concentrations have varied dramatically during the geological past due to natural processes, and have often been higher than today, the current rate of CO2 (and therefore temperature) change is unprecedented in almost the entire geological past."
3. Evidence of current harm? See:
“A2 The scale of recent changes across the climate system as a whole and the present state of many aspects of the climate system are unprecedented over many centuries to many thousands of years.” and
“A3 Human-induced climate change is already affecting many weather and climate extremes in every region across the globe. Evidence of observed changes in extremes such as heatwaves, heavy precipitation, droughts, and tropical cyclones, and, in particular, their attribution to human influence, has strengthened since AR5.” (IPCC AR6 WG1 SMP 2021)
4. Evidence of rapid rates of change causing mass extinctions in the past?
See copious research into past mass extinction events, eg
i) Clarkson et al, Ocean acidification and the Permo-Triassic mass extinction, Science, 2015
"The first phase of extinction
was coincident with a slow injection of carbon into the atmosphere, and ocean
pH remained stable. During the second extinction pulse, however, a rapid and large
injection of carbon caused an abrupt acidification event that drove the preferential loss
of heavily calcified marine biota."
ii) Knoll et al, Paleophysiology and end-Permian mass extinction, Earth and Planetary Science Letters 256, 2007
"Physiological research aimed at understanding current global change provides a basis for evaluating selective survivorship
associated with Permo-Triassic mass extinction. Comparative physiology links paleontological and paleoenvironmental
observations, supporting the hypothesis that an end-Permian trigger, most likely Siberian Trap volcanism, touched off a set of
physically-linked perturbations that acted synergistically to disrupt the metabolisms of latest Permian organisms. Global warming,
anoxia, and toxic sulfide probably all contributed to end-Permian mass mortality, but hypercapnia (physiological effects of elevated
PCO2) best accounts for the selective survival of marine invertebrates."
iii) Kump, Ocean Anoxia:The end-Permian Mass Extinction, Eos, 2007
"the world's oceans became anoxic at both low and high paleolatitudes in the Late Permian."
5. Analysis of climate models ... refutes your assertion. See: "analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming" by Carbonbrief
6. "consensus is merely politics." Well, you started with absurdity, and I see you have ended with it as well.
Brilliant presentation! I love how the 'Science Deniers' at TH-cam put a message under the video. 🤣
It appears on all climate videos. It might be propaganda, but I can't say for sure.
@@darylfoster7944 Yes, those videos are similar because this is the truth.
Just look at how many videos claim the opposite, also all the same, but they come from alarmists and scare people unnecessarily, that is in any case not good information.
@john MasonThat's right, there's nothing scientific about the big nonsense about CO2, everything is based on calculation models that are filled in the way they want.
It is one of the biggest lies ever told to make people pay a lot of money for total nonsense.
Whatever happens to the climate, the cause is not the CO2.
The first 20 ppm in the atmosphere causes the most greenhouse effect, after which that effect decreases very quickly.
A doubling of the current CO2 (420 ppm) has virtually no effect on the climate.
Water vapor is responsible for 90% of the greenhouse effect.
Even well educated people believe nonsense just because everyone says it and if it is repeated a thousand times then a lie becomes truth and almost everyone is misled by it.
What most people say and believe should never be confused with the truth.
Science is not democratic, most votes do not count, only the truth.
Less than a hundred years ago everyone believed that the universe was static, Enstein was the only one in the world to calculate that this is not the case, later came Hubble's proof that space in the universe is expanding.
Elon Musk, please buy TH-cam and end censorship and suppression of 1st Amendment rights here as well as at Twitter!
Having worked in coastal Fisheries where we used drift nuts, let me say this: I'm no fan of high seas drift nuts; the biggest problem is that they lose them in storms and they don't bother to go looking for them to retrieve them; that's a lot of work and takes away from fishing time; nevertheless, I think that's the way most of them get into the ocean, floating freely and fishing forever; they should be degradable like the degradable panel required on crab traps
My favorite point in this is that WE ARE PART OF EARTH'S ECOLOGY.
We are not aliens.
When the United Nations has a climate change badge under your video you must be doing something right!
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I’ve read that and have concluded that the U N’s interpretation is proof they are lying to the world.
Two reasons.
1. Man’s burning fossil fuels (COAL) is an admirable and welcomed ecological choice for the health of the planet.
The U N demonizes a very scarce but totally necessary gas for every breathing thing on this planet.
2. Man is not responsible for climate change and neither is CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS.
Yeah, it's like when the Govt puts Covid bullshit under videos.
An approval badge from the United Nations would make me skeptical of any content presented within! Buyer beware!
Exactly
Dr. Moore triggers Doomers on a daily basis.
Dear Dr.Patrick Moore, you are right that the CO2 level is still rising but you forgot that we cut down 50% of the world forests. Let plant them back and the level of CO2 will drastically fall dawn.
The only documented issue with GMO foods that I am aware of is their connection to Roundup herbicide. It seems that we are learning that Roundup is bad news and any GMO that enables Roundup use might be a bad thing.
If this "proves" anything, it's that the science is not "settled".
😂😂 Those that say the science is settled are doubly bad people. First, science is never settled. Einstein said the science of today will all be replaced in the future except for maybe the second law of thermo. Second the climate scientists know that their subject is inherently mathematically chaotic. Which means you cannot predict anything for certain.
I really appreciate Dr. Moore's candor and ability to translate some fairly complex science to layman's terms, and without prejudice.
We're going through a natural process of our earth rebuilding itself
You SIR are amazing thank you Patrick the truth is here to hear
Wake up all of you GRETA,s
Thank you very much. This was enlightening!
A great lecture, should be compulsory in schools. There's a a dream.
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"doubling or trippling co2 would be good for plant growth."
Essential to provide sufficient co2 for agriculture at the high altitude, low density regions around lake Titicaca.
1:02:57 Note the gray area in the western Andes region at 15° south latitude of South America!
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@@julieritchie3373 just the fact that if we had 10 times as much atmospheric Co2 there would be no hunger on earth! Patrick has been saying for over 40years!
Welcome back into the light! Thank you Dr. Moore.
Thank you Dr. Moore
Freeman Dyson argued that Methane is very likely produced in the earth's mantel, and so it's not always a "fossil" fuel. As the raw materials for nuclear energy are going to run out, the truly sustainable energy for human survival (we've been around for 2.5m years already) may turn out to be natural gas.
Freeman Dyson had ties to the Mercer Family Foundation whos tax returns since 2005 show some $22 million has gone to groups pushing climate science denial.
Across the board, the groups funded by the Mercers have misrepresented climate science, promoted fossil fuels and denigrated renewable energy.
I agree. We don’t have enough nuclear. We have a supply of oil and gas that’s replenishing itself. Almost unlimited.
And nuclear plants are incredibly expensive to build, and take forever to be approved.
And no insurance company will ensure a nuclear power plant unless the risk is under-written by the taxpayer/government.
Not natgas, it's still a finite resource. Ultimately the nearly limitless energy resource is water, which when reacted in a Tokamak, or thermonuclear reactor will provide thousands of years of power for humanity. There are teams working on tokamaks in several locations around the world right now.
At least one has already reached "breakeven" net energy production.
Meanwhile, fossil fuels are still cheaper than all other forms of electrical power production, and that is slowing the development of alternative energy sources. That's a major reason politicians use global warming scare tactics to justify subsidies from taxpayers. I say let the free market pick the winners and losers, not governments. Remember Obama and the Solyndra debacle? Follow the money. Solyndra went broke, but a lot of investors, law firms, and contractors cleaned up on the deal. When politicians whip up fear to ram through projects at taxpayer expense, watch your wallet!
Other talks people might be interested in listening to are by: Dr. Don Easterbrook, Dr. Henrik Svensmark, Dr. Willie Soong, Dr. Robert Holmes, Prof William Happer. There are many more of these videos on TH-cam and on TED talks, to help educate folks in the sciences of physics and thermodynamics concerning "climate change". Dr. Patrick Moore is just one of many excellent scientists trying to bring this farce to and end. This was a great talk bringing many different aspects of this foolishness together.
And John Christy, Roy Spencer, Freeman Dyson, Patrick MIchaels, Richard Lindzen. Ian Plimer, Ivar Giaever, Kiminori Itoh, Judith Curry. The climate alarmism is based on oversimplification -- CO2 is just one of many many factors affecting the climate.
Thanks for the recommendations. I've been so pigeon-holed by the YT algorithm I can't find anything anymore 👍
Thank you. I will certainly follow your recommendation
Thanks for the list! One common “shoot-the-messenger” technique people throw at me is something to the effect that I’m quoting isolated quacks and that “the consensus” or “the majority” support “the sky is falling” narrative.
Really helpful to hear from an expert that isn’t being funded by billions of dollars from people with a political agenda.
He’s certainly telling the truth. Thanks
Better people to listen to; Patrick Moore is a fossil fuels lobbyist and isn't even a climate scientist. He's got a PhD in biology, but never published any research in that field.
Follow the money: We have investors in fossil fuels, with trillions of dollars at stake. Their fortunes depend on the continuing expectation that they will be able to sell through the known reserves. Every month they can delay rational public policy toward waste CO2 is worth billions of dollars. The half a billion or so they spend each year on "conservative think tanks" and related lobbying and public relations projects, not to mention the Heartland Institute to undermine public confidence in science is a very good investment.
All we have here is an organized political opposition to climate science that has a big budget, mostly oil money. By no means a scientific organization. It is what it is, and that is to engineer the talking points that are broadcast through those "climate skeptic" blogs and more general "conservative news" outlets in order to misinform and to undermine public confidence in science. This institute was founded explicitly as a political lobbying group. They are no different than the organized opposition that hired PR flacks to tell us that cigarettes weren’t really harmful. Moore is not different than the scientists that worked for tobacco lobbyists.
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The graphs of Co2 and temperature are accurate.
He never was a member of Greenpeace ? That’s a kind of giant lie to tell if you are trying to get people to believe you. I assume that these talks are to people who they want to influence.
Billions of dollars are thrown at climate hysterics, so I really don’t think the fact that there’s money involved is a huge difference.
I just try to evaluate the facts and science presented by anyone speaking on any issue.
Personally, I find the fundamental assumption that minute amounts of Co2 gain enough extra heat energy to drive planetary climate in a mass 2500 times their weight, from ambient radiation that does not force temperature gain in the virtually every other molecule on earth that warms up in the sun to be unbelievable. Not unquestionable.
Whatever the watts per square meter might be, the very, very real BTUs required to heat and maintain heat in the low density of the atmosphere are extremely unlikely to come from 1/2500 of mass.
And I actually lean towards supporting many environmental issues, like Dr Moore supposedly does.
@@glenndavis4452 No, the graph of CO2 and temperature isn't accurate. Not even a litte bit.
Coal mining engineer and climate denier Monte Heib took historical CO2 data and historical temperature data and slapped them together in a hand-drawn graph and assumed this was an accurate depiction of earth's climate history. It wasn’t. But deniers and skeptics have posted and re-posted his famous graph (a favorite of Patrick Moore’s) thousands of times across the internet. It has ZERO scientific validity, as you would expect from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing.
The data he used was in time steps of ten million years, too long to determine correlations between CO2 and temps. (Climate scientists today use time steps of 500,000 years.) He also neglected to add the effects of a sun that increases its output as it evolves over hundreds of millions of years.
Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;)
Do ask yourself why 99.9% of publishing climate scientists disagree with his point of view. Then ask why NINE separate studies have confirmed a 97% or higher consensus and why 80 academies of science and ALL of the world's major scientific institutions endorse the consensus findings. Is it the world's PhD-level climate scientists who are wrong, or Patrick Moore, who is a forest ecologist and energy spokesman, not a climate scientist, and who has been widely debunked in the literature?
I've been a science writer for nearly fifty years and work with climate data every day. Because I do I'm keenly aware of the mountain of fraudulent and erroneous data floating throughout the internet's cesspool of misinformation. Moore is very much part of that misinformation machinery. The CO2 Coalition that Moore headed is funded by the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of MORE fossil fuels. Connect the dots, Glenn, and then follow the money.
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So you definitely have heard of Milankovitch cycles and El Niño/ La Niña effects. Probably not by far the only large undersea volcanoes to have ever existed.
Please explain to me, since you have your finger on the pulse of scientific evidence, HOW trace amounts of carbon in the atmosphere gain the gigantic level of BTUs absolutely necessary to raise atmospheric temperature in a cubic volume. PLEASE do not use watts per square meter of surface energy. Whatever watts carbon is blocking in our atmosphere is being done in the thousands of cubic meters of air overhead.
Use the scientifically proven beyond a doubt requirements of heat gain in a volume measurement. Because that is what is absolutely necessary to create heat gain in our atmosphere.
The unquestionable science that 1/2500 of relative mass is driving the BTU equation sounds very questionable to me. From ambient sources of thermal radiation that do NOT produce similar effects in the virtually every other molecule on earth that blocks/gains thermal radiation energy.
If you are able to provide the fundamentally required heat energy gain equation, my further question would be, WHY are real scientists not applying this planet changing heat energy power of CO2 for some practical purposes.
The climate science of thunderstorms led to fusion cells decades ago. They were the original green energy solution.
The climate science of GGGW apocalypse has led to zero real world application of the way above and beyond relative mass of carbon to drive temperature equilibrium.
I’d really appreciate that answer. Thanks for bothering to enlighten me about the situation.
@@glenndavis4452 CO2 traps heat and radiates it in all directions, including back to earth. It doesn't create heat, it blocks the earth's natural cooling vent to space. As a result, the troposphere has warmed while the atmospheric layer above it has cooled. Spectroscopic analysis clearly shows heat passing through CO2 in the atmosphere and radiating back to earth. Isotopic analysis identifies about half of the current CO2 accumulation originating from combusted fossil fuels, not the biosphere or volcanoes.
Too many doubters forget the principle of Occam's Razor: the simplest answer is usually the right one. The CO2 answer is as simple as it gets. The sun's output has weakened over the past 40 years, according to NASA. The Milankovitch Cycles are in cooling phases. Global warming has coincided neatly with our emissions. I'm not sure what there is to doubt here.
Excellent presentation, thank you.