Bosch 1617 EVS 2.25 HP Variable Speed Router
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The Bosch 1617 Router has been out for quite a few years now and has been a solid performer the entire time. When you look at routers, there are two brands that come up quite a bit and have some loyal followers. There is Bosch and Porter Cable. At least those are the two that I have been looking at for a few years now.
The main reason that I really like this 1617 router is it is about as universal of a router that you can get. It works as a stationary base router, you can get a plunge kit for it, plus it works with most router lifts.
If you are new to routing, or want to get started, there are somethings you need to think about before you jump into it. I unfortunately did not know what I needed to think about when I started, so I have made some poor choices in my past. Now I feel that I have reached routing nirvana.
9 years after you made this video I watched it. Great video.
Hello man, excuse my bad english because I am from Venezuela. I want to thank you for this video because you helped me to select this router. Excelent video and excelent explanation. Thank you from Venezuela.
Bad English?? I'm 81 and your English is as good or better than mine.
Thanks for taking the time to make this. It's very helpful! Just took back up the woodworking hobby after 30 years since high school. Things have changed :-)
This is an excellent learning video. Your discussion of things to consider when buying a router covered a lot of the same issues I had been thinking about, with the exception that your patient and thorough approach made things become clear. I'm ready to stop overthinking the process and just buy myself a Bosch 1617.
Just received mine today. I’ve been looking at different routers for a few years. Was looking at the Dewalt. Glad I decided on this. Did get the kit with plunge base. Thanks so much. Take care.
Just got the Rockler router table and lift for Father's Day and my birthday. Your video helped to address some issues I was having installing my 1617 EVS router. Very much worth my time. I will now be able to do it in a matter of minutes.
Thank you for zooming in and showing what you are talking about. Excellent review
Just found your channel. I own this router but haven't used it yet. You made me feel confident to get started with it. Thanks for the video.
Wow, super helpful video. There are not that many guys doing such greatly in depth reviews, especially on routers/ routing. Thanks for posting!
Great video! Thanks! I just bought this router over the weekend and the Bosch table from another seller. Your video will shorten my learning curve.
Thank you John that was super helpful!! Just bought my first router and it happened to be a Bosch 2.25. Didnt know Eve from Adam till just now after watching this. I feel like I just got launched light years ahead on Bosch routing knowledge
Best bang for the buck is to just get 2 1617's, one plunge and 1 fixed. The depth adjustment is the best that I've found. Those twist collar ones are maddening when trying to adjust from under a table. Setup is everything and if something is a pain to setup, it can take all the joy out of woodworking.
I bought the plunge, got the Bosch router table and have since added a bunch of accessories for it. It became a hassle to remove it from the table to use for plunge routing, which my trim router cannot do, so I bought another 1617 with just the fixed base to keep in the table.
Tools that are a hassle to use are tools that do not get used.
Just picked up the fixed/plunge base kit. Your video validated my purchase! Thanks
Thanks for sharing. New to routers and got this one. Seemed pretty straight forward (and it is) and just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything "special" haha. Thanks again!
Thank you, this video helped me decide which Bosch router to buy! I was going to buy the 2.3 hp MRC23EVSK but I also didn't realize it would not work in a route table with a lift.
Pure man of genius!!! This is the video I've been looking for. I've been going back and forth with porter cable and I'm getting the bosch and table! Thanks
Do you have a link for the table?
thanks a lot for this review. Very helpful and thorough you answered all of my questions! Will definitely be buying this down the road!
*Starting to change out all my corded tools to cordless and the **MyBest.Tools** are excellent.I just recently used it to router hinges for a 4 sets of doors with no issues and still plenty of power left (used a 3ah battery).Great visibility at the cutting area also.*
Thanks a ton, John! ...not too many people are keen to share their experiences with the routers. I would say you've given a perfect advice on how NOT to make mistakes when purchasing a router (and/or a table), and I shall follow it for sure.
Thanks again, keep well and take care!
mickosurda Thanks for the kind words. I just know how much I struggled with choosing a router and system and I am pretty sure, quite a few other people go through the same decision making process.
Bosch should pay you. This is the best explanation I have seen. Thank you.
New to routing and you answered every question I was researching. New subscriber here! Many thanks.
This video was completelly satisfactory... I have understand many things a new diyer needs. I was undecided between this, dewalt, makita and hitachi, but now i know bosh is the best for many reasons.
Another seriously useful video, Johnny-Boy. I was chuckling at your reference to your first router. I think that was mine, too. You've convinced me to pick up the Bosch and look for a proper table/lift system. Cheers!
Rob Pope Thanks Rob. I hate that I had to make my mistakes to get where I am now, but better late then never. Let us know what you come up with for a table/lift system.
clarifying the drawback on having the trigger in the handle - big win there, much appreciated!
Another awesome tool presentation from W.A. Just well presented, down to earth and budget conscious. I'm a subscriber. Keep'em coming!
It was an excellent review, I seriously agree!
I've used 1/2" shank, 2" dia planning bits on this and use it in my slide planer, and love it.
I have just bought that one. And l love it. Thanks for your help. I learn a lot with your review
Well I just bought the 1617 Bosch and it’s going in my just table. I just finished building my table and I’m a lot like you, I had mismatched equipment that I was using and now I’ll have a more convenient setup. I have the Jessem lift and I’m looking forward to this new routers ability. I do have an equal number of quarter inch and half inch bits so I was in need of a router with the ability to slow down some of those larger diameter bits. Keep up the video production!
ordered mine last night i like to learn the hard way also
Thanks for the review John. I have been looking at the 1617 and you cleared things up for me.
Awesome video I'm so happy I didn't get to newer model didn't even realize you can't put it in a table great video keep up the good work
Great video! Thank you. I'm new to routing, but your video was helpful in learning some of the possibilities of what I can do.
Very helpful. I have been looking at different Bosch routers for a while and your video is a good overview. Thanks
Great video. I just bought the 1617 combo with fixed and plunge base. Upgrading from a really old Craftsman that had the rotating adjustment you mentioned. Thank you for this video. Really good info.
I've been going around in circles, trying to figure out which one to get (final contenders were this and the DeWalt DW618PKB - I definitely want a plunge kit set, regardless, as I need both types of bases), and ultimately leaned toward this one the most. Upon perusing reviews, to get the last bit of assurance, I found this video, and am thankful to you for it. We all need a little help sometimes, and in this area I need a lot (sadly!), lol. Thanks for the help, and you just gained another subscriber, too. ;)
and better value than the $600 Festool router!
This video is far above average. Video quality is excellent, you are easy to understand, you are direct and to the point, and you obviously know what you are talking about. I know zero about routers. My son just bought the Bosch 1617 so I decide to see what the excitement was . Hell, I may get one now!
Thanks very much. This is very useful information and was well presented. I've been using my Dad's 3/4HP Craftsman router that he probably bought in the '50s. It's served me well for the occasional routing I've done over the years, but the lack of a find adjustment and lack of soft-start have annoyed me for a long time. I want to replace it with another solid machine that will keep me in good stead for years as this one has, while keeping the size and weight down and satisfies the two deficiencies of of the Craftsman. It looks to me like the 1617 will do the trick. I also like the fact that I can get the plunge base later if I decide I need it. I have several other Bosch tools and have always been impressed by their design and build quality.
I have this router, and love it so far. Plenty of power, cuts great. I do find the switch location, at the top of the machine, a little awkward when routing an edge detail. I find myself taking one hand off the handle to turn the unit off, which can be a bit hazardous, it's not a light unit. I plan on putting this unit into a router table. Thanks.
I really liked your video. I've had the 1617 for almost a year attached to the table I made but I'm always trying to learn new things I could be doing to improve my technique. I forgot to make a hole for the micro adjust from the too of the table... I think I'll do that today.
John, I've been researching a good middle ground router and have been looking really close at this, because they have it at Lowes, and it's right in the price range I've been looking at. You have sold me on getting the 1617 EVS, along with the great reviews I've read. Thanks for the great video and information on router!
+IronWelder80 Your Welcome! Hope you love it!
THANK YOU! Explained very well. I only wish I had seen your video sooner. I didn't realize that I needed a variable speed router for my router table until the other day (safety and best results), started looking at the Bosch to replace my Porter Cable in my table but after watching your video, I am going to use my Dewalt from my plunge router and purchase the Bosch Plunge router with the handle start, makes so much sense and seems even easier to adjust than my Dewalt.
May 4, 2022. Thanks for a great video. I have the Bosch 1617 as well and it's a love/hate relationship. Sometimes I want to throw it in the nearest dumpster. I watched how easily you put the router into the fixed base and then removed it again. I have spent as much as 45 minutes just trying to get it into the fixed base and it's just as hard to remove it. I'm lining everything up properly and loosening the clamp and pushing in the lever. It feels like I need at least 3 hands. Today I finally adjusted the nut on the big clamp and now I can get the router into the base without too much trouble, but it's been a huge frustration. And yes, I've managed to scratch up the sides of the router in the process, which doesn't make things any easier. I worked on the scratches today with steel wool and that helped a little. I also have the Bosch table RA1181, I think, and I like that too, but I have just as much trouble getting the router into and out of fixed base when it's attached to the table. Okay, I'm done venting.
Thanks very much for the video. I'm looking at the Bosch as my first router, and your video gave me a lot of good information.
Excellent Video, very well done, covers all the bases !!!
Excellent info here... I'm in the research phase currently for my 1st router purchase. It didn't take me long to realize the Bosch 1617 EVS with or without the plunge kit is a very fine router based on numerous reviews I have read... The Bosch router table RA-1181 is a mixed bag as to what I might end up with by the time it gets delivered to me or the big box store. I may just build my own table at the end of my Delta contractors table saw in all eventualities, however I'm a big fan of Rockler wood working products & I will take a closer look at the plate U are illustrating here & perhaps build it into my own 3/4" plywood bench top to the right of my saw's fence & modify that fence to also use it on the router side. The T - handle height adjuster looks super user friendly & surely must add to the enjoyable experience of using a tabletop mounted router.
Thanks for sharing your experience with routers as I found it quite helpful.
Bill on the Hill,
Vermont... :~)
I bought the 1617 in May 2021. I like it but not the BOSCH table with the door. Now you have me looking at the Rockler table (and lift)for this 1617. Thanks for the post.
Good info, thank you. I learned the hard way as well, wish I had seen this 10 years ago.
Its unfortunate that you had to learn the hard way as well, but its nice to know that I'm not the only one out there that this happened to.
great review! man, I wish I saw your video a few years back when I first decided I needed a router... it was exactly like how you described your experience, I didn't really know which type was the best for me. I eventually figured out what I needed, and that was the Porter Cable model similar to your Bosch with both fixed and plunge bases... but I picked up another fixed router for a router table and a palm router... I use all three all the time but if I had to make do with just one, it would be def be the fixed & plunge base model. Thats def the "route" to go!
Its unfortunate that you had to learn the hard way as well, but its nice to know that I'm not the only one out there that this happened to.
I think your review sealed the deal, now have a 1617 and bosch router table
Great video. New to routers. I bought the Bosch 1617 EVS and the Bosch router table. Works great.
I have a friend that has your Rockler set up and they are really nice. I think I need to buy another router now.
I bought the combo package back in October but ended up using the motor on my Woodpecker router lift and didn’t want to remove it each time I wanted to use it so I bought another 1617 but not the combo so i would have it to use with the plunge base. I like it a lot
Thanks for this video. Just bought one and have a Jessum lift on order. Well presented explanation.
I've been against the wall between this one and the dewalt 11. But I think you just helped me pick this one!
I think you made the right decision!
I own two of them, they are fantastic.
This is way better than the DeWalt routers. (And I'm a DeWalt fan.)
Personally, the only DeWalt router I like is the 600b (? I think that's the model lol) the cordless 20v. But that's just for smaller stuff since it gets a bit wonky on bigger bits.
But for the best value in any corded router, the Bosch 1617evspk is amazing. They're tougher than any other router under $400. And having the plunge, and fixed base will give you a lot of versatility.
I'm used to larger, corded routers th-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQ5_mgwq6PcudJvAH25t-I4D-3cTPz4z so this was a different experience for me. Basically, this is an incredibly sweet machine, fits well in the hand, etc. It has slightly less power than I'm used to, but that's understandable. Maneuvering freehand takes some practice. These days, it's especially nice to be able to avoid power cords. This is above the level of a hobbyist but below a pro level.
You should get paid for this. Just bought this router and the instruction manual is the pits (useless). Thank you for a great education.
Thanks! Really nice review.
Very helpful! You saved me alot of time. Thanks man.
Great review, nice cabinets behind you too..
Thanks for the thorough review. I know what i am buying now....
Thanks! Nicely done!
Awsome video!! Thank you for the information. You covered alot of ground in a short time. Thank you
Anthony Sanchez qfff
Great
Thanks, just bought a 1617EVSPK from Rockler based on this video.
we love you, John! thanks for helping Anthropologie display! xoxo
I also took your advise an went to get a the 1617 but ended up getting the 1617evspk and the RA1200 router table, in the process of build a cabinet to replace the folding legs on the RA1200 table
Excellent video luv how easy it goes in the table nice job
Great review-subscribed.
Great video bro. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Great video. very informative. Gave me the info i needed to buy this router. thanks!
Thank you, very useful information
Great review. Thank you.
You just talked me into buying this router! Thank you! I can't afford a router lift though, so i'll just mount it on a 3/8" thick plate and rely on the micro adjustment to lift and lower the bit using the T-shaped hex screw. I hope it's as easy as it seems to be and no complications along the way. BTW I'm new into routing, specially building and using my own DIY router table. Any advice will be highly appreciated. Wish me luck!
I just got the kit also, first time.
Nice video, thanks. Bought the router with plunger and a Bosch table today. I like the Rockler table but it was a $$$ thing.
I just bought the 1617EVSPK combo pack a few weeks ago. I wanted a nice big router table, but couldn't justify the price or size for my work area. Bought the Bosch RA1171 table a couple days ago cheap at Lowe's, and it will do the job until I feel I have the experience and room to justify it. Posted a video myself on it, not as good as yours, but... LoL
***** I've seen that table, but I haven't used it. It looks like it is built really nice and the reviews on it are very good. Congrats on your new router setup. You are going to love it. If you have any questions or just want to tell us how things are going, stop over to the forum....workshopaddict.com
I will, thanks.
Very helpful info for a beginner like me! Thank you :)
Great review. I just bought a Bosch router table since it was on sale. Currently I have a Ridgid palm router. Quickly figured out I would have to basically make a new mounting plate. Can it be done....yes, do I want to....I guess. Would it be easier to just buy a new Bosh router.....definitely. Not to mention Now I can have a fixed router in the table. I love it when I answer my own questions. :)
I’ve had the duo for 4 years now....it’s still a complete joy to break out!, I use it for all kinds of things in my shop... however.
When it comes to being “in the field”
I’m afraid Milwaukee has it beat with the hand strap/one hand operation.
Unfortunately my logic always argues my desire to own both.
Desire will win the argument soon I feel.
extremely helpful video. thanks for making it
Nice review. Good tips for the novice. Well done.
Great review. Thanks for taking time to create it. Could you please let me know what is the difference between this Bosch 1617 EVS and it's cousin, the Bosch MRF23 EVS? Thanks.
I bought this make and model of router with both of its interchangeable bases used on Ebay, with the intention to install it into a custom build router table. Naturally, I want to use this router to cut out the insert into the table top to accept the router lift, but I've run into a problem when I tried to use the fixed base.
The router motor can be switched on when it is positioned upside down (like when it is installed in a router table for instance), but when it is right-side up (either naked or in the fixed base), it won't switch on. If I place it upside down on a table and switch it on, and then rotate it, it switches off once it gets to a horizontal position. It will switch on when it's installed in the plunge base however. It's like the fixed base is somehow activating a switch that detects when the router is being tipped over, sort of like the failsafe switch on a space heater that cuts the power when it is tipped over.
In other words, it seems impossible to use the fixed base. Has anybody encountered this problem before? I can still use the plunge base to cut out the insert, but I thought that was very odd.
Thanks for your help. Nice video!
You're awesome brother!!!! Thank you for this very very helpful information!!!
Nice job man very informative I have a ridgid router that I use everyonce and a while but thanks Man U tought me some new things man!
+Mike Z Well,,, He never walks alone!
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Nice review!
I have used this router professionally for years.. probably at least 6.. it is developing a little noise but i am completely cool with that as i feel like it has lived more than a long enough life for what i've put it through.
the first few years i used it both in a table and by hand.. for the last year or so i have had it permanently mounted in my table.
Thanks for explaining routers. Yes, I am big on thinking things thoroughly through. I will not make quick decisions. I think the Bosch 1617 EVS 2.25 is for me. Blacktail recommends this right there with his $600 Fest. Oh... I subscribed. :)
Nice video. Good presentation.
Barry
Great video thanks! Just got mine in the mail
Great informative video. Thanks.
Great video and great tool. I love mine
Great explanation of the Bosch system. I will be getting a router for the 1st time and I was immediately drawn into this Bosch model and your explanation of the system helps a lot. Does anyone know where to get that work table?
Great video. Can you share the make/model of the table/lift you showcased. Thank you in advance.
Just bought a POF 1200AE Router but found no mention of a Table or Accessories in the instructions. I wanted that! Product is fine and I am new to this. I will follow it up but they should have mentioned it in the booklet.
great review... I think you did a great job but there is a tiny problem I think you should of addressed and that is the plunge base kit of the 1617 .... I bought it and I had to send it back because of the plunge base .... as a machine I think it's the best that is between all these who has the same power level but as a plunge I think it's horrible and that's your they came up with new mrc23evsk 2.3 hp .... 1617 would be the best as a fixed base router or a table router and would recommend it for the tram and I think it would be a great idea to get mrc23evsk as a plunge router .... thank you for your review and u think you hit the spot .... bosch is the best that is for everyone... thanks again
Thank you for taking of your time to explain all this, to people like me that are new on routing... Appreciated
Your Welcome!
One thing I like about the 1617 is that Bosch makes a dedicated under-mount table base for it. About $60 for that, but it'd be better than using your fixed handle base as a table base, because it'd save you attaching and removing and attaching...and removing ad nauseaum.
Great overview of the Bosch router! I just bought one to get into woodworking with routers. What dust collection setup would you recommend that works well with the router? It generates tons of sawdust.
Thank you for the information -- it is undaunting for a beginner.
I just recently bought the 1617 I got the table the plunger and router for $180. Haven’t had a chance to really use it yet.
Great video; very informative.
Great great super great video Mr, thank you 🙏