This morning, I took my 90 year old father to visit Stan Musials’ grave. He was ever so grateful to pay his respects to his childhood hero. Both of them were from Pennsylvania steel mill towns and met briefly in a Missouri hotel in the mid 1950’s. My dad played football for Indiana University and was preparing to play against University of Missouri. Stan asked him to score a touchdown for him…..and he did! My dad has deep respect for Stan the Man and is adamant that he is one of the top baseball players ever. But more than that, he was a great honorable man.
My dad passed away last year a life long Cardinal fan. Upon cleaning out his bedroom I came upon News clips, autographs, pictures, uniform shirts etc... all of one man Stan Musial. My dad was 92 when he died his room looked like a young boys shrine to this guy. Must have been a special person .
Im his great great grandson and im not personally interested in baseball and didnt know much about him but its cool to know im related to someone like him
he sure was he was really beloved by fans from all teams also I'm in I grew up a New York Yankee fan and there were three players I could immediately think of that I really loved growing up Willie Mayes Stan Musial and Hank Aaron all great players all great gentlemen
What a lucky man to play with his 1st team and for so long . Following the money isn't everything, but being loved is .Thank you Mr Musial for wonderful memories , even if they came years after he retired and this is a White Sox fan.
Stan never had the opportunity to play for another team. Free Agency wasn't a thing back then so if your team didn't trade you, you were stuck with the team you first signed with.
Killebrew was absolutely fantastic. A true ambassador for the Minnesota Twins and MLB generally. I love the stories of him continually urging other players to sign legible autographs because that likely will be the last as well as lasting impression on fans. And if you look at his gorgeous signature, you can see that he practiced what he preached.
I finally understand why Stan was my fathers favorite ball player..my pop was from Williamson West Va. and was 10 when stan played there..he saw him there..he taught me to bat like Stan Musial..RIP Dad and Stan
A lot of the old timers here in Texas were Cardinals fans because there were no baseball teams yet here in Texas. I knew an old guy and he was a Cardinals fan and he loved Stan “The Man” Musial
Actually he was underestimated, because the fact is that one has to real scientific about how Stan The Man Musial, every element is more accurate on substance, and not on preference!
Greatest Stan Musial quote (IMO) was after one Spring Training had concluded a writer came up to him and asked: "Stan! Why are you always smiling?" Stan replied: "Wouldn't you be smiling if you knew you were gonna hit .330 this year!" And, of course, he said it with a big grin.
I got shake his hand once. I went to a fan fest (the only time in my life) because Stan Musial was going to be signing. My entire iMessage in line I had tears in my eyes. There he was !!!! The Man!!! #6!!! A joy
Growing up in St. Louis, this man was the picture of class and dignity. On the statue of him outside of the stadium reads an inscription bearing the following quote: "Here stands baseball's perfect warrior. Here stands baseball's perfect knight." Nobody else in sports has ever come to close to being as beloved as Stan was in the Gateway city.
I dont like the Cards...you guys are one of my teams rivals...but I respect your fanbase. You guys support you team. I wish my team had a better fanbase like St. Louis
He was basically St. Louis' Tony Gwynn. Never struck out. Never left. Never stopped smiling or being gracious. And hit NL pitching like he owned it. Which he did. And he hit more than 4 times as many HRs as Anthony Keith Gwynn, who I also loved.
yeah, did you know Gwynn visited Stan The Man in his home in St. Louis to talk about hitting and baseball. at the time (and in the past) there was a lot of talk about 'guessing' what the pitcher was going to throw. Stan told Gwynn, "I don't call it guessing. I think it is intuition." Gwynn exclaimed, "I thought so, too!!!"
Stan 'The Man' Musial is my favorite player of all time!! My parents took me to numerous St. Louis Cardinals games. I've been a rabid baseball fan ever since. Just went to the 2024 MLB All-Star game. There is a book on Stan Musial covering his whole 'Interesting' life. I've adoptede the moniker 'Van the Man' to honor him. Great vidieo. Thanks.
@@danacoleman4007 This douche bag made that same comment on another post and I insulted the 💩 out of him. That Manchester United dipstick is totally ignorant of what Americans like in terms of sports or other things for that matter.
I grew up a Cardinal fan during their dominance in the ‘60s. Stan’s retirement happened just before I became cognizant of the game of baseball, but I always felt his presence in Busch stadium as I rooted for Bob Gibson, Lou Brock, Tim McCarver and the others. He was still a Cardinal.
what an amazing team that was that Cardinals team I was the Yankees fan but I love that Cardinals team I had no problem rooting for my favorite nationally team during the year possessed if we faced it in the World Series that I was forced to not really hate them I could never hated that card team but I did have to root for the Yankees in 1964 was it my memory is fading that was a great team and I also loved Stan who Mickey Mantle himself referred to as the greatest baseball player
Back in the late 80’s I found an address for Mr Musial in the back of a Beckett magazine. I was just a kid, but I sent him a card with a short note asking for an autograph. In a couple weeks he sent it back to me, signed. That really meant a lot to me, and I still have that card. He was the epitome of what a great baseball should be.
I'm not gonna say the man was underrated because baseball historians know how great stan was but he kinda flies under the radar when the greatest of all time are discussed I looked up his career statistics and they're phenomenal The high level of performance and the longevity of excellence He was 38 and still hit over 330 in average and he hardly ever struck out at the plate . Hit for power too and drove in a ton of runs . Absolutely one of the greatest
I love the smile on Joe Willie Namath's face when talking about meeting Stan, at 3:24. This Hall of Famer from the NFL looks like a little kid when taking about meeting his hero. Beautiful.
that's the thing about Namath even as an old man he still has that joy of childhood when talking about rolling storytelling just about any story he tells another story like that about meeting Mickey Mantle Whitey Ford and Billy Martin in a watering hole in New York and how they made him sit down with them and treated him like even though he was a rookie
Pete Rose got caught in a gambling scandal, DiMaggio had some pretty big (I mean REALLY big) issues with marriage, Babe Ruth was a serial philanderer, and Ty Cobb was a violent jerk. Meanwhile, Stan the Man was married 72 years, abstained from drugs, and presented the image of a perfect human being - so perfect that biographers had trouble finding a "flawed" aspect of him!
Hey dude idk if you are a bot or someone who really needs a hobby but stop. This is at least the 30th video I’ve seen you on. Just let people enjoy they’re interests and kindly fuck off.
One of the most Beautiful things about this post is as of this date 6/21/21...there are no dislikes to this ... and 899 LIKES... May GOD rest in peace Stan Musial...
My great-aunt brought me to a Cardinals game in 1963. I was 5 years old and she wanted me to see the Man. I don't remember much but a bunch of cheering. Must have been him!
I was about 13 years old. We lived in south Missouri. I begged my parents to go to the ball game as I bought them tickets. Cards Vs Houston Colts .45. I was thriller to see real Stan the Man. He hit real long as I hoped for home run but end up double. Anyway it was my first and last to see him playing. Never forget that day. After that season he retired.. oh lord, glad to see him playing. Rip Stan the Man
Musial struck out 18 times in 701 PA in 1943. As impressive as that is, HOF thirdbaseman Joe Sewell stuck out only 114 times in 8333 PA in 14 season and the most he struck out was 20 in 1922 and the least 3 in 1930 and again in 1932. He has to be considered as the toughest out in the history of baseball.
He used to live on Mardel st in a house that was a little bigger then 1000 square feet. All the kids would ring his doorbell and ask for autographs and he would sign them. He moved to a slightly larger house in 1955. He didn't move into what you would consider a large house until his final playing year in 1963, it was around 5000 square feet.
I worked at a CPA firm in the KMOX building in St. Louis. It was a two block all to the park. I went to the park in the summer of 1977 (Musial retired at something age 41 after the 1963 season. I went early to watch batting practice. Musial was an P.R. Officer of a bank (I think), so he came to the Bush Stadium II (round one), and he took off his suit coat and tie and began to take batting practice. He instantly was hitting line drives off the walls, occasionally over the wall. I know he was getting batting practice speed pitches, but it was 14 years after his retirement at age 41; so, he was at least 55! He likely played a lot of golf, but he was not working out. At age 55 (even though I played beyond high school, playing to age 24 and stayed in various sports we old dude play (slow pitch softball, reaction league basketball, etc. THERE IS NO WAY I COULD HAVE DRIVEN EVERY PITCH OFF A WALL OR AS A LINE DRIVE IN THE ALLEYS OR HOME RUNS! I recall his last game, when he was happy to retire after getting a single in a real game. He was ever the gracious representative the greatest game. I grew up with Stan. The first game I ever watched St. Louis (the Browns were long gone) still had electric street cars,cars, and one of my older brothers (10 years ahead of me in school) drove the three of us and my dad across the old bridge into downtown. I had never seen a street car, all the wires, and traffic intersecting rails. We made it through and drove into the old Sportsman Park (by then named Bush stadium after the Brewery bought the Cardinals). Neighborhood people were out hawking parking spots. We parked off an alley in a guy’s garage and made the very, very short walk to the park. One of our 4 seats was partially blocked by a steel girder, so I (at age 8 or so) was given a good seat for a double header with Philadelphia. I was in awe of Stan the Man and others who on the average to fairly bad teams STL had after the last World Series win in 1946 (the year I was born). They would not win a World Series (or play in post season, as there were no playoffs) until just after I had graduated from high school (age 18) and had gone to college two states away from my home in Illinois (about 80 miles from St. Louis). The Yankees had won the American League (as usual); the Cards, with an old, slerve-trhowing left-handed (Cur Simmons) and a young guy named “Bob Gibson “ throwing to an incredibly young catcher, Tim McCarver and Ken Boyer playing 3rd Base (winning series MVP based upon his one home run, a grand slam) would beat his brother, the Hall-of-fame Yankee 3rd Baseman. To this day, his equivalent playing 3rd for the hapless Chicago Cubs would be welcomed into the Hall, but I don’t think Ken Boyer has. I would enjoy many other titles, as the Cards won’t have great teams in 1967 and 1968. The 1980s would be fruitful, and eventually the Cards would hold the National League record for the number of World Series Titles. I lived and worked in St. Louis only one year, a year of mediocrity; however, whether in Japan, practicing law in Illinois, or living in California (now over half my life, my home), I have followed only one team. The one with the bird or birds on the bat. Whether winning or having a season like the one last year, they are forever the team that gave me my first dream (to be a STL. Cardinal player, something I just could not accomplish. Nevertheless, the Cardinals, and great players like Stan the Man and numerous others have given me a life of thrills, with fewer years to have to say, “WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR” far fewer times than any other team in the league. THANKS, STL & TAN!
Played in the minors at Rochester NY, I lived right down the road 1984-2009, they switched to Baltimore in '61. Played from 1941-1963. 3630 hits. Half at home, half on the road. It didn't matter to him. 696 strikeouts, 1599 walks, 725 doubles 177 triples, 1951 RBI's, .559 slugging percent, 18 times MVP. I don't care if you're Cy Young, I'd have been terrified to face him.
I knew about Stan "The Man" Musial because he was from Donora, Pennsylvania. My mother was from Webster. The town across the river from Donora. So I followed his career
+Eric shumway It's so strange that in this time of unprecedented racial strife on the edges, Stan isn't revered more and remembered more as an example for ALL Americans to follow. Ferguson being the city that comes in mind here. I know I look at him differently now in retrospect. 3 Pennants, 20+ year career, complete gentleman. That should be enough for us all to want to be.
In May 2009 I met Dick Musial son of Stan Musial at M. D. Anderson hospital In Houston Texas I was recovering from surgery colon cancer my name is Carlos Garza I was a baseball announcer
yeah, it is sooooh sad baseball has forgotten how to play the game of baseball!!! Spanky (I would call him 'Sparky', but he believed in discipline) Anderson said after his team president ruined his team by replacing his ballplayers with 'Home Run hitters', "You give me speed, defense and pitching, and I'll show you how this game was meant to be played!"
Musial was beloved by Brooklyn fans; they (we) never booed "The Man." When introduced to Pope Pius XII, Musial confused the Pontiff by answering his question, "What do you do?" with, "I'm a Cardinal."
Stan hit .359 lifetime at Ebbett's field, including .522 in the '48 and '49 seasons. I think they had a short right field screen that he peppered with baseballs.
Good lawd seriously!!? Just when you think this guy is amazing with an electric intimidating entrance, a menacing stare that would put doubt in the most elite fighters, the childhood struggles he overcame and now this. May sound silly but I'm not ashamed as a 55 year old Caucasian male that "Poatan" is my favorite UFC fighter of all time! Thank you sir for your inspiration dedication out of this world fighting skills and positive influence you've had on young and old alike!!
What most fans don't understand, is that he likely would have hit well over 600 hr's, if not for the screen in front of the covered outfield pavillion from rf foul line too cf. He hit 394 doubles in St Louis; how many off the screen that was 28 ft high off the ground; Not 3 feet high, like Ruth had in NY or Williams in Boston. lets say he hit 20% off the screen (=79 hr?) his first 5 years he didn't try to elevate the ball, averaging 14 hr's per year. The team asked to try elavating, too hit more hr's...the next 10 years he averaged 31.7 hr's( to the end of hi prime) that's 17.7 more per year, than his first 5 yrs (17.7x5=87.5 more hr's) add 79 for the screen +87 for first 5 years =166= 475 he hit=641 hr's and how about missing 1944 in thw war if you can add 31 more you have 672 home runs. Even Ted Williams told his son when asked, said Musial was as good a hitter that he was. Musials BA was .340 up through the age of 36 to the end of his prime (same as Gehrig) AND ALL THIS WITHOUT HAVING ANY POWER IN THE LINEUP BEHIND HIM ie: Ruth had Gehrig, Mays had McCovey, Aaron had Mathews...Williams had Foxx for 3 years in the beginning, and always had 2-3 others in his lineup that hit 20+ hr's...MUSIAL nothing equal any of the others! To get it clear, if not for the wars, Williams would have broken Ruth's record (but he wasn't equal to Ruth in power) Musial certainly would have hit over 600 hr's if not for the screen, and not trying at the beginning. And Musial was a better overall slugger than Mays or Aaron even w/o the adjustments, with them he would have blown them away..Up through the 1970's the Greattest Cardinals of all time were Stan Musial-Rogers Hornsby-Bob Gibson and Ozzie Smith (Carlton would have been #5 and we would have a couple more championship if the owner weren't so cheap with the money! Hornsby the greatest RH batter, thus the most vauable 2nd baseman ever, Gibson the absolutely the greatest World Series pitcher ever!
aaah....actually....you are right about the statistics and all, but Bob Gibson is not the greatest World Series pitcher. there was this young pitcher in Boston who was better! George Herman 'Babe' Ruth!!! he was the best in the World Series til another left hander named Edward 'Whitey' Ford came along!!!
Ford wouldn't even get into the top 20 WS pitchers (10-8) 4 of his wins had leads of 5&6 runs after 1 inn 7 runs after 3 inns..with a 6.2 average run support in his wins. A whip of 1.137 (Gibson 0.889) You need to do some research, no baseball person, manager, coach, owner, or player would want Ford or any other pitcher, including Koufax, over Gibson in a game 7 of the WS In Ruth's case, he might have went on to win 300 games, his WS record is to small to make any absolutes about him. His whip was 0.935, but his so ave, was league ave. Gibson averaged + 4.27 more so's tan league average. What i was saying is that Gibson was the most dominate WS pitcher.
@@samuelmoulds1016 Ruth pitched in 3 WS games during dead ball era. He was 3-0. Ford was 10-8 with a 2.71 ERA. Gibson was 7-2 with a 1.89 ERA; and most older St. Louisans remember the Curt Flood misplay in '68 series that could have cost him another win. Was greatest the greatest WS pitcher ever. Maybe not, but I put him above both Ruth and Ford.
It's pretty crazy he was almost traded to the Phillies in exchange for pitcher Robin Roberts, who's practically the equivalent to Stan as far as being just tragically underappreciated. Roberts is one of the great pitchers of all time, not just his era, yet I bet not many casual baseball fans, outside of Philly area, would know anything about his career
yeah, and if they had traded Robin Roberts for Stan The Man, the Phillies woulda owed the Cardinals some more players! AND I AM A BIG ROBIN ROBERTS FAN!!!
@@raygordonteacheschess5501 the Phillies had NOTHING besides Roberts and Richie Ashburn! NOTHING!!! the Phils were the 1st mlb team to lose 10,000 games. as the 'Old Professor' Casey Stengel used to say, "You can look it up."
@@nicholasschroeder3678 aaah....actually...I thought Spahn played for the Braves (Boston and Milwaukee), and the Mets! then, he pitched in the Mexican league. tell me, when did he pitch for the Cardinals!!?! but I agree, NOBODY played better ball in their 40's than Spahney!!!
@@samuelmoulds1016 You're right. I got that wrong. But Spahn was great in his 40s. Another one was Nolan Ryan: probably the greatest post40 ballplayer ever. Historians might bring up Satchel Paige.
@@nicholasschroeder3678 yeah, you were right and I was wrong about Ryan and Paige!!! years ago I was bragging to Pastor Chad, that because Paige's birth records were lost in the courthouse fire, he was probably in his 50's when he played major league ball in the 50's!
I remember reading that Stan is Hank Aaron favorite player and that his hittting approach is more in line with stan rather than ted who made his hitting worse when he tried following his book hehe.
aaah...actually....if you were to give back to Ted Williams the 5 years he gave to his country, he would have made Aaron's Home Run Record harder to reach!
Top ten ballplayer all time. Beyond any doubt. It makes me cringe to hear that only Pete Rose had more hits than Stan Musial. Pete Rose doesn't belong in the same sentence with Stan Musial! That SOB is in every way Musial's opposite. Musial was class. Rose a horse's ass. Even that is out of context because it insults the noble equine to be mentioned with Pete Rose. Musial was beloved for his decency perhaps more than any other ballplayer. His record speaks for itself. 3630 hits. 1815 left handed and 1815 right handed! A .331 lifetime batting and 475 home runs. A marvelous base runner and outfielder extraordinaire. Had he played in the media capital of New York his fame would have exceeded Kings. Everyone was so enamored with Joe DiMaggio. You could make a very real argument that Musial was better. His numbers bear that out. And his incredible longevity far exceeded Joltin Joe's. The difference? DiMaggio played in New York. Musial in St.Louis. Willie Mays , Henry Aaron, Frank Robinson, and DiMaggio were his only peers. As the old saying goes "He might not be in a class by himself. But whatever one he's in it doesn't take long to call roll." Everything you would want as a player and person was embodied in Stan Musial. Hall of Fame in every way.
Ray Gordon Teaches Chess is a fortunate individual. I didn't have an opportunity to meet the great man. Seeing him even in photos and film you have the feeling you knew the man. If they scoured the country over you couldn't find a man to say a word against him. Class through and through.
Somehow, someway I believe he managed to be an even better person than he was a player. That's a helluva statement, but the reason I believe it to be true is that I've honestly never heard anyone that met him or knew him say any different.
Last comment: had the honor to meet his grand nephew... SSG Musial, US Army, at Ft. Leonard Wood. Same grin, same Pennsylvania accent and soft voice. Shook the young man's hand and said "Tell Uncle Stan there's another hero in his clan."
Never before in the history of baseball, and never since, has one man meant so much to one city, and to only one city, as Stan Musial did to St. Louis. It is insane that he's not even considered the most famous ball player in his own home town of Donora, PA (That distinction belongs to Ken Griffey, Jr. Side note: Musial played alongside Junior's grandfather in high school). Derek Jeter came somewhat close, but the whole world were Jeter fans, it seemed. Musial, however, had to play in the shadow of DiMaggio and Ted Williams. He was like the Batman of baseball. When you think of Batman, you immediately think Gotham City. When you think of Stan Musial, you immediately think St. Louis.
Steve Veasey - It had everything to do with the Cardinals not being in the postseason from 1946 to 1964, the year after Stan retired and him playing in St. Louis as opposed to New York. It has nothing to do with race.
art724 Exactly, that's the point I was making, unless you played in New York in the 1950's you were only a regional celebrity. The Indians were as good if not better than the Yankees through most of that time but ask anybody to name a position player from those teams today and its tough. Only Ted Williams got any kind of exposure despite playing for a lousy team, Stan Musial should have got the same attention...
Trader Frank Lane destroyed a promising and revitalized Cleveland Indian club after the 1959 season when he traded away the Rock for fading singles hitter Harvey Kuenn. He even traded his manager Joe Gordon for Detroit Tigers skipper Jimmy Dykes. He made 400 trades in his career, 241 with the White Sox . Lane traded players, such as Norm Cash, Rocky Colavito and Roger Maris who would all become stars. When with the Indians, He also traded Hall of Famers Enos Slaughter, Red Schoendienst and Early Wynn. Not all his trades were terrible and he did make a good one for the Brewers during his time there. The only ball player to go to his funeral was Bobby Bragan and the only reason he went was Bowie Kuhn asked him to represent baseball.
WOW!!! THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION!!! I could never figure out why Detroit traded Harvey Kuenn for the Rock! West Allies was not that far from Detroit. we sure were glad to have Rocky! he was a big help getting us 100 wins to finish 2nd to the Yankees in 1961 (but sportswriter Joe Falls ran Rocky outta town). so that's how Detroit got Norm Cash! AND TRADING MANAGERS!!?! has this ever happened before in baseball history!!?! a General Manager for the White Sox this century liked to trade a lot! he is given credit for the White Sox last American League Pennant and World Series victory (and got a promotion to VP or President or something). I still can't get over trading managers, though!!! what was Frank Lane trying to prove: "I'm your BOSS!" !!?!
This morning, I took my 90 year old father to visit Stan Musials’ grave. He was ever so grateful to pay his respects to his childhood hero. Both of them were from Pennsylvania steel mill towns and met briefly in a Missouri hotel in the mid 1950’s. My dad played football for Indiana University and was preparing to play against University of Missouri. Stan asked him to score a touchdown for him…..and he did!
My dad has deep respect for Stan the Man and is adamant that he is one of the top baseball players ever. But more than that, he was a great honorable man.
My dad passed away last year a life long Cardinal fan. Upon cleaning out his bedroom I came upon News clips, autographs, pictures, uniform shirts etc... all of one man Stan Musial. My dad was 92 when he died his room looked like a young boys shrine to this guy. Must have been a special person .
😊😊
Wild to see all this
Im his great great grandson and im not personally interested in baseball and didnt know much about him but its cool to know im related to someone like him
he sure was he was really beloved by fans from all teams also I'm in I grew up a New York Yankee fan and there were three players I could immediately think of that I really loved growing up Willie Mayes Stan Musial and Hank Aaron all great players all great gentlemen
What a lucky man to play with his 1st team and for so long . Following the money isn't everything, but being loved is .Thank you Mr Musial for wonderful memories , even if they came years after he retired and this is a White Sox fan.
Stan never had the opportunity to play for another team. Free Agency wasn't a thing back then so if your team didn't trade you, you were stuck with the team you first signed with.
Stan Musial and Harmon Killebrew were the epitome of greatness, class and dignity.
I knew Musial's family and met him once I wasn't as impressed.
I met Mr Killebrew at a small function in my hometown. He was such a nice gentleman. It was a real pleasure meeting him.
@@raygordonteacheschess5501 yeah!!?! well! Tony Gwenn met with Musial and WAS VERY IMPRESSED!!!
Killebrew was absolutely fantastic. A true ambassador for the Minnesota Twins and MLB generally. I love the stories of him continually urging other players to sign legible autographs because that likely will be the last as well as lasting impression on fans. And if you look at his gorgeous signature, you can see that he practiced what he preached.
I finally understand why Stan was my fathers favorite ball player..my pop was from Williamson West Va. and was 10 when stan played there..he saw him there..he taught me to bat like Stan Musial..RIP Dad and Stan
In 1943, he struck out 18 times in 700 plate appearances. Let me repeat that. In 1943, he struck out 18 times in 700 plate appearances. That's godly.
In 1943, he struck out 18 times in 700 plate appearances.
In 1943, he struck out 18 times in 700 plate appearances.
He also only struck out 18 times in 700 at bats in ‘43
How many times he grounded out in 1943?
WWII year, DiMaggio struck out 13 times in 1941. Oh yeah and had a 56 game hitting streak. NBD
When he died it was a story of note throughout sports media in Poland. Maciej Petruczenko wrote an excellent column about Stan in Przegląd Sportowy.
One of the best all time
A lot of the old timers here in Texas were Cardinals fans because there were no baseball teams yet here in Texas.
I knew an old guy and he was a Cardinals fan and he loved Stan “The Man” Musial
The most under rated super star baseball player.
mrcannon44 the opposite
@MANCHESTER UNITED Go Away Troll
That's why I dont pay attention to best ever maybe best of his era espically when I hear tom Brady the best quarterback ever my ass
@@tylerdurden6901 Tom Brady is the most overrated athlete of all time.
Actually he was underestimated, because the fact is that one has to real scientific about how Stan The Man Musial, every element is more accurate on substance, and not on preference!
I love the Cardinals. They are a classy team.Had great players and managers.
Great Fans.
Stan was something special as a player and as a human being
Greatest Stan Musial quote (IMO) was after one Spring Training had concluded a writer came up to him and asked: "Stan! Why are you always smiling?" Stan replied: "Wouldn't you be smiling if you knew you were gonna hit .330 this year!" And, of course, he said it with a big grin.
I got shake his hand once. I went to a fan fest (the only time in my life) because Stan Musial was going to be signing. My entire iMessage in line I had tears in my eyes. There he was !!!! The Man!!! #6!!! A joy
Growing up in St. Louis, this man was the picture of class and dignity. On the statue of him outside of the stadium reads an inscription bearing the following quote: "Here stands baseball's perfect warrior. Here stands baseball's perfect knight." Nobody else in sports has ever come to close to being as beloved as Stan was in the Gateway city.
I dont like the Cards...you guys are one of my teams rivals...but I respect your fanbase. You guys support you team. I wish my team had a better fanbase like St. Louis
born here in western pa we make the best here
Oh please! The St Louis Rams long snapper Gary Zordani is the biggest St Louis sports hero !
Now THIS is the example of an actual Hero.
Elaborate
Stan will always be The Man!!❣
I grew up in St. Louis and remember him so well. He is, was, an always will be a personal hero.
Stan makes the all-time team. You need a hit, you call The Man.
As a Cardinals fan I am so proud to have such a great man and such a great athlete to have played for the Cardinals.
Stan was the man.
Musial was one of the all time greats.A top tenner.
KMOX.....the sports voice of St. Louis!
He was basically St. Louis' Tony Gwynn. Never struck out. Never left. Never stopped smiling or being gracious. And hit NL pitching like he owned it. Which he did.
And he hit more than 4 times as many HRs as Anthony Keith Gwynn, who I also loved.
@Angry Grizzly
Wrong.
No need to run down either guy.
Cardinals fan here, but always loved Tony Gwynn. Such a shame he passed so young.
yeah, did you know Gwynn visited Stan The Man in his home in St. Louis to talk about hitting and baseball. at the time (and in the past) there was a lot of talk about 'guessing' what the pitcher was going to throw. Stan told Gwynn, "I don't call it guessing. I think it is intuition." Gwynn exclaimed, "I thought so, too!!!"
Stan the Man is forever!
Stan 'The Man' Musial is my favorite player of all time!! My parents took me to numerous St. Louis Cardinals games. I've been a rabid baseball fan ever since. Just went to the 2024 MLB All-Star game. There is a book on Stan Musial covering his whole 'Interesting' life. I've adoptede the moniker 'Van the Man' to honor him. Great vidieo. Thanks.
Curt Flood asked Musial hitting advice: "Curt, you get ahold of a good pitch and you hit the shit out hit it"
@MANCHESTER UNITED if you like soccer so much, why are you watching a baseball channel? LOSER!!!!!!
👍👍👍👍👍 😁😁😁😁😁
@@danacoleman4007 This douche bag made that same comment on another post and I insulted the 💩 out of him. That Manchester United dipstick is totally ignorant of what Americans like in terms of sports or other things for that matter.
I grew up a Cardinal fan during their dominance in the ‘60s. Stan’s retirement happened just before I became cognizant of the game of baseball, but I always felt his presence in Busch stadium as I rooted for Bob Gibson, Lou Brock, Tim McCarver and the others. He was still a Cardinal.
what an amazing team that was that Cardinals team I was the Yankees fan but I love that Cardinals team I had no problem rooting for my favorite nationally team during the year possessed if we faced it in the World Series that I was forced to not really hate them I could never hated that card team but I did have to root for the Yankees in 1964 was it my memory is fading that was a great team and I also loved Stan who Mickey Mantle himself referred to as the greatest baseball player
Same for me
Back in the late 80’s I found an address for Mr Musial in the back of a Beckett magazine. I was just a kid, but I sent him a card with a short note asking for an autograph. In a couple weeks he sent it back to me, signed. That really meant a lot to me, and I still have that card. He was the epitome of what a great baseball should be.
I'm not gonna say the man was underrated because baseball historians know how great stan was but he kinda flies under the radar when the greatest of all time are discussed
I looked up his career statistics and they're phenomenal
The high level of performance and the longevity of excellence
He was 38 and still hit over 330 in average and he hardly ever struck out at the plate . Hit for power too and drove in a ton of runs . Absolutely one of the greatest
Agreed. Underrated beast!
I love the smile on Joe Willie Namath's face when talking about meeting Stan, at 3:24.
This Hall of Famer from the NFL looks like a little kid when taking about meeting his hero. Beautiful.
Both from western PA. :)
Was Stan's incredibly hot daughter with him when they met? hehe
that's the thing about Namath even as an old man he still has that joy of childhood when talking about rolling storytelling just about any story he tells another story like that about meeting Mickey Mantle Whitey Ford and Billy Martin in a watering hole in New York and how they made him sit down with them and treated him like even though he was a rookie
He is great ! God bless Stan forevermore and beyond ! Amen !
Pete Rose got caught in a gambling scandal, DiMaggio had some pretty big (I mean REALLY big) issues with marriage, Babe Ruth was a serial philanderer, and Ty Cobb was a violent jerk. Meanwhile, Stan the Man was married 72 years, abstained from drugs, and presented the image of a perfect human being - so perfect that biographers had trouble finding a "flawed" aspect of him!
Hey dude idk if you are a bot or someone who really needs a hobby but stop. This is at least the 30th video I’ve seen you on. Just let people enjoy they’re interests and kindly fuck off.
Babe was still a good dude
@MANCHESTER UNITED F.C Dream on .
@@Marmalade_March Well said .
I knew his family pretty well in the 1980s and met him once. He had his flaws.
One of the best.
I'm a Phillies fan and Stan is in the conversation for my favorite player ever. Love this guy.
What a first class gentleman.
Amazing player.. top 10 hitter ever, maybe top 5.
+espdemon number 2, being 2nd in all time hits.. you know.
+espdemon He's number 4 on my list
+Eric shumway he isn't number 2?
no he is number 6
and he also never got thrown out of a game and he never argued with the umps
Eric shumway ty Cobb I'd 2nd
Stan Musial was such a Phenomenal Baseball Player. But An even Better Man#RIP!!!
Amen! GO cards!
God Bless Stan Musial to me one of the greatest major leaguers I wish they made a movie about Musial's life my name is carlos garza a cancer survavior
One of the most Beautiful things about this post is as of this date 6/21/21...there are no dislikes to this ... and 899 LIKES... May GOD rest in peace Stan Musial...
God Bless Branch Ricky... The man was such a pioneer and involved in the greatest moves in the history of the game.
Stan the Man. That says it all. RIP Mr. Stan Musial.
What a guy. Stan the Man and you wlll always be..
My great-aunt brought me to a Cardinals game in 1963. I was 5 years old and she wanted me to see the Man. I don't remember much but a bunch of cheering. Must have been him!
I was about 13 years old. We lived in south Missouri. I begged my parents to go to the ball game as I bought them tickets. Cards Vs Houston Colts .45. I was thriller to see real Stan the Man. He hit real long as I hoped for home run but end up double. Anyway it was my first and last to see him playing. Never forget that day. After that season he retired.. oh lord, glad to see him playing. Rip Stan the Man
yeah, I never got to see The Man play. I first got to Bush Stadium in 1965. by then, Sportsman Park had been torn down.
Love Stan "the Man".....
In the late 50's or 60's Stan hit 4 consecutive home runs in a double header when I use to listen to the Cardinals on the radio
He was the cardinals All time GREAT ! --Stan The Man--
Musial struck out 18 times in 701 PA in 1943. As impressive as that is, HOF thirdbaseman Joe Sewell stuck out only 114 times in 8333 PA in 14 season and the most he struck out was 20 in 1922 and the least 3 in 1930 and again in 1932. He has to be considered as the toughest out in the history of baseball.
Born in Pittsburgh just yet another great athlete from western pa
His five hit game that tied the record for five hit games in Boston was the day I was born - in Boston.
The bloody music !!
He used to live on Mardel st in a house that was a little bigger then 1000 square feet. All the kids would ring his doorbell and ask for autographs and he would sign them. He moved to a slightly larger house in 1955. He didn't move into what you would consider a large house until his final playing year in 1963, it was around 5000 square feet.
This awesome man is my great great uncle.
Melissa Musial really,wow, the only to pitch to stan Musial was to walk him
I knew one of his grandkids and met him once. His daughter was beyond gorgeous.
MISS YOU STAN! GO REDBIRDS!!!!
I worked at a CPA firm in the KMOX building in St. Louis. It was a two block all to the park. I went to the park in the summer of 1977 (Musial retired at something age 41 after the 1963 season. I went early to watch batting practice. Musial was an P.R. Officer of a bank (I think), so he came to the Bush Stadium II (round one), and he took off his suit coat and tie and began to take batting practice. He instantly was hitting line drives off the walls, occasionally over the wall. I know he was getting batting practice speed pitches, but it was 14 years after his retirement at age 41; so, he was at least 55! He likely played a lot of golf, but he was not working out. At age 55 (even though I played beyond high school, playing to age 24 and stayed in various sports we old dude play (slow pitch softball, reaction league basketball, etc. THERE IS NO WAY I COULD HAVE DRIVEN EVERY PITCH OFF A WALL OR AS A LINE DRIVE IN THE ALLEYS OR HOME RUNS! I recall his last game, when he was happy to retire after getting a single in a real game. He was ever the gracious representative the greatest game. I grew up with Stan. The first game I ever watched St. Louis (the Browns were long gone) still had electric street cars,cars, and one of my older brothers (10 years ahead of me in school) drove the three of us and my dad across the old bridge into downtown. I had never seen a street car, all the wires, and traffic intersecting rails. We made it through and drove into the old Sportsman Park (by then named Bush stadium after the Brewery bought the Cardinals). Neighborhood people were out hawking parking spots. We parked off an alley in a guy’s garage and made the very, very short walk to the park. One of our 4 seats was partially blocked by a steel girder, so I (at age 8 or so) was given a good seat for a double header with Philadelphia. I was in awe of Stan the Man and others who on the average to fairly bad teams STL had after the last World Series win in 1946 (the year I was born). They would not win a World Series (or play in post season, as there were no playoffs) until just after I had graduated from high school (age 18) and had gone to college two states away from my home in Illinois (about 80 miles from St. Louis). The Yankees had won the American League (as usual); the Cards, with an old, slerve-trhowing left-handed (Cur Simmons) and a young guy named “Bob Gibson “ throwing to an incredibly young catcher, Tim McCarver and Ken Boyer playing 3rd Base (winning series MVP based upon his one home run, a grand slam) would beat his brother, the Hall-of-fame Yankee 3rd Baseman. To this day, his equivalent playing 3rd for the hapless Chicago Cubs would be welcomed into the Hall, but I don’t think Ken Boyer has. I would enjoy many other titles, as the Cards won’t have great teams in 1967 and 1968. The 1980s would be fruitful, and eventually the Cards would hold the National League record for the number of World Series Titles. I lived and worked in St. Louis only one year, a year of mediocrity; however, whether in Japan, practicing law in Illinois, or living in California (now over half my life, my home), I have followed only one team. The one with the bird or birds on the bat. Whether winning or having a season like the one last year, they are forever the team that gave me my first dream (to be a STL. Cardinal player, something I just could not accomplish. Nevertheless, the Cardinals, and great players like Stan the Man and numerous others have given me a life of thrills, with fewer years to have to say, “WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR” far fewer times than any other team in the league. THANKS, STL & TAN!
I was there at Sportsman's Park, when Stan Musial played played his last game.
Here stands baseball's perfect warrior, here stands baseball's perfect knight.
Fuck the Minions. No one likes the Minions,
Played in the minors at Rochester NY, I lived right down the road 1984-2009, they switched to Baltimore in '61. Played from 1941-1963. 3630 hits. Half at home, half on the road. It didn't matter to him. 696 strikeouts, 1599 walks, 725 doubles 177 triples, 1951 RBI's, .559 slugging percent, 18 times MVP. I don't care if you're Cy Young, I'd have been terrified to face him.
Stupid no one was ever 18 x's mvp
I knew about Stan "The Man" Musial because he was from Donora, Pennsylvania. My mother was from Webster. The town across the river from Donora. So I followed his career
Stan the man is what a true baseball player should look like and play like he is these greatest baseball player ever
He's an All Time Great but he's not the best player ever.
St. Louis never forgot him, it's just the world didn't heed his existence.
+Eric shumway It's so strange that in this time of unprecedented racial strife on the edges, Stan isn't revered more and remembered more as an example for ALL Americans to follow. Ferguson being the city that comes in mind here. I know I look at him differently now in retrospect. 3 Pennants, 20+ year career, complete gentleman. That should be enough for us all to want to be.
RACIAL.STRIFE?!? ARE YOU F***ING HIGH?!? 😠
"that ties musial" Stan hits a home run "give it back to Musial"
Grande entre los grandes en el Universo de por vida,.Bendiciones para ud,1;29PM,10/11/2018/,Raleigh,NC.
In May 2009 I met Dick Musial son of Stan Musial at M. D. Anderson hospital In Houston Texas I was recovering from surgery colon cancer my name is Carlos Garza I was a baseball announcer
It is a shame how power minded teams in the majors have become right now.
Nowadays they strikeout 200+ times in just one season.
yeah, it is sooooh sad baseball has forgotten how to play the game of baseball!!! Spanky (I would call him 'Sparky', but he believed in discipline) Anderson said after his team president ruined his team by replacing his ballplayers with 'Home Run hitters', "You give me speed, defense and pitching, and I'll show you how this game was meant to be played!"
❤ stan musial
STAN ,THE MAN WAS / IS KNOWN BY MIDWESTERNS . WE WEREN'T BOMBARDED BY EASTERN PRESS .
That's the sportswriter and media issue. When I grew up in 1970s I knew he was one of the greatest. Stan the Man. I'm not even a Cardinals fan.
Ruth, Gehrig, Musial, Aaron, Cobb...top 5 all time
Woah man.... where is Williams.For me it is Williams, Ruth, Cobb, Musial, Aaron. Then Gehrig..
What about Ted Williams?
Ted Williams, Willie Mays
Sail Oria complete refit i cannot disagree on that
Mantle
Musial was beloved by Brooklyn fans; they (we) never booed "The Man." When introduced to Pope Pius XII, Musial confused the Pontiff by answering his question, "What do you do?" with, "I'm a Cardinal."
Stan hit .359 lifetime at Ebbett's field, including .522 in the '48 and '49 seasons. I think they had a short right field screen that he peppered with baseballs.
@@dropwizerorders501 He peppered everything and everywhere.
Trivia Stan Musial and Ken Griffey Jr. were born in the same city
Same date too - November 21st.
believe me,growing up in the Midwest,you knew who the man was.
make more videos like this plz
Lol. You're funny.
Make more? You mean record off of the TV and upload?
The Man
damn good ball player but better person
The best. A first-rate human being.
The Man himself!
My Dad took me to the Polo grounds in 1963, and Musial hit 5 HR's in a dblheader vs. the Mets. His last year, too.
Wrong. That was in 1954 against the Giants, see 10:50 in the video.
why would you even lie about that
He hit five home runs in a sunday double header!!!
Funny that Williams and Musial both hit the wall in 1959 and then rebounded. .
yeah, shows an inner strength most men don't have! AND IT WAS IN 1959, TOO!!
Good lawd seriously!!?
Just when you think this guy is amazing with an electric intimidating entrance, a menacing stare that would put doubt in the most elite fighters, the childhood struggles he overcame and now this. May sound silly but I'm not ashamed as a 55 year old Caucasian male that "Poatan" is my favorite UFC fighter of all time! Thank you sir for your inspiration dedication out of this world fighting skills and positive influence you've had on young and old alike!!
What most fans don't understand, is that he likely would have hit well over 600 hr's, if not for the screen in front of the covered outfield pavillion from rf foul line too cf. He hit 394 doubles in St Louis; how many off the screen that was 28 ft high off the ground; Not 3 feet high, like Ruth had in NY or Williams in Boston. lets say he hit 20% off the screen (=79 hr?) his first 5 years he didn't try to elevate the ball, averaging 14 hr's per year. The team asked to try elavating, too hit more hr's...the next 10 years he averaged 31.7 hr's( to the end of hi prime) that's 17.7 more per year, than his first 5 yrs (17.7x5=87.5 more hr's) add 79 for the screen +87 for first 5 years =166= 475 he hit=641 hr's and how about missing 1944 in thw war if you can add 31 more you have 672 home runs. Even Ted Williams told his son when asked, said Musial was as good a hitter that he was. Musials BA was .340 up through the age of 36
to the end of his prime (same as Gehrig) AND ALL THIS WITHOUT HAVING ANY POWER IN THE LINEUP BEHIND HIM ie: Ruth had Gehrig, Mays had McCovey, Aaron had Mathews...Williams had Foxx for 3 years in the beginning, and always had 2-3 others in his lineup that hit 20+ hr's...MUSIAL nothing equal any of the others!
To get it clear, if not for the wars, Williams would have broken Ruth's record (but he wasn't equal to Ruth in power) Musial certainly would have hit over 600 hr's if not for the screen, and not trying at the beginning. And Musial was a better overall slugger than Mays or Aaron even w/o the adjustments, with them he would have blown them away..Up through the 1970's the Greattest Cardinals of all time were Stan Musial-Rogers Hornsby-Bob Gibson and Ozzie Smith (Carlton would have been #5 and we would have a couple more championship if the owner weren't so cheap with the money! Hornsby the greatest RH batter, thus the most vauable 2nd baseman ever, Gibson the absolutely the greatest World Series pitcher ever!
You are absolutely right. Stan did NOT have long term protection in the Cardinals lineup that most other greats did.
aaah....actually....you are right about the statistics and all, but Bob Gibson is not the greatest World Series pitcher. there was this young pitcher in Boston who was better! George Herman 'Babe' Ruth!!! he was the best in the World Series til another left hander named Edward 'Whitey' Ford came along!!!
Ford wouldn't even get into the top 20 WS pitchers (10-8) 4 of his wins had leads of 5&6 runs after 1 inn 7 runs after 3 inns..with a 6.2 average run support in his wins. A whip of 1.137 (Gibson 0.889) You need to do some research, no baseball person, manager, coach, owner, or player would want Ford or any other pitcher, including Koufax, over Gibson in a game 7 of the WS
In Ruth's case, he might have went on to win 300 games, his WS record is to small to make any absolutes about him. His whip was 0.935, but his so ave, was league ave. Gibson averaged + 4.27 more so's tan league average. What i was saying is that Gibson was the most dominate WS pitcher.
@@samuelmoulds1016 Ruth pitched in 3 WS games during dead ball era. He was 3-0. Ford was 10-8 with a 2.71 ERA. Gibson was 7-2 with a 1.89 ERA; and most older St. Louisans remember the Curt Flood misplay in '68 series that could have cost him another win. Was greatest the greatest WS pitcher ever. Maybe not, but I put him above both Ruth and Ford.
TIL that he hit a home run the day he became a GRANDFATHER!!! Now how cool is that?
1967? I knew one of his grandkids went to school with him hung out at his home met Stan Musial once.
i just got his jersey and i love it
It's pretty crazy he was almost traded to the Phillies in exchange for pitcher Robin Roberts, who's practically the equivalent to Stan as far as being just tragically underappreciated. Roberts is one of the great pitchers of all time, not just his era, yet I bet not many casual baseball fans, outside of Philly area, would know anything about his career
And what type of player was on the Phillies back then?
yeah, and if they had traded Robin Roberts for Stan The Man, the Phillies woulda owed the Cardinals some more players! AND I AM A BIG ROBIN ROBERTS FAN!!!
@@raygordonteacheschess5501 the Phillies had NOTHING besides Roberts and Richie Ashburn! NOTHING!!! the Phils were the 1st mlb team to lose 10,000 games. as the 'Old Professor' Casey Stengel used to say, "You can look it up."
I can't think of any other ball player who played as well after age 40
My dad. But that was in a recreational slow-pitch softball league.
His teammate, Spahn
@@nicholasschroeder3678 aaah....actually...I thought Spahn played for the Braves (Boston and Milwaukee), and the Mets! then, he pitched in the Mexican league. tell me, when did he pitch for the Cardinals!!?! but I agree, NOBODY played better ball in their 40's than Spahney!!!
@@samuelmoulds1016 You're right. I got that wrong. But Spahn was great in his 40s. Another one was Nolan Ryan: probably the greatest post40 ballplayer ever. Historians might bring up Satchel Paige.
@@nicholasschroeder3678 yeah, you were right and I was wrong about Ryan and Paige!!! years ago I was bragging to Pastor Chad, that because Paige's birth records were lost in the courthouse fire, he was probably in his 50's when he played major league ball in the 50's!
I want to be like Stan
I remember reading that Stan is Hank Aaron favorite player and that his hittting approach is more in line with stan rather than ted who made his hitting worse when he tried following his book hehe.
aaah...actually....if you were to give back to Ted Williams the 5 years he gave to his country, he would have made Aaron's Home Run Record harder to reach!
The 39 people who voted thumbs down must have severe brain damage.
In one of the seasons he had more triples than strikeouts.
yeah, and I counted, Joe DiMagio 6 years hit more Home Runs than he struck out! betya reggie and Stargell couldn't say dat!!!
Top ten ballplayer all time. Beyond any doubt. It makes me cringe to hear that only Pete Rose had more hits than Stan Musial. Pete Rose doesn't belong in the same sentence with Stan Musial! That SOB is in every way Musial's opposite. Musial was class. Rose a horse's ass. Even that is out of context because it insults the noble equine to be mentioned with Pete Rose. Musial was beloved for his decency perhaps more than any other ballplayer. His record speaks for itself. 3630 hits. 1815 left handed and 1815 right handed! A .331 lifetime batting and 475 home runs. A marvelous base runner and outfielder extraordinaire. Had he played in the media capital of New York his fame would have exceeded Kings. Everyone was so enamored with Joe DiMaggio. You could make a very real argument that Musial was better. His numbers bear that out. And his incredible longevity far exceeded Joltin Joe's. The difference? DiMaggio played in New York. Musial in St.Louis. Willie Mays , Henry Aaron, Frank Robinson, and DiMaggio were his only peers. As the old saying goes "He might not be in a class by himself. But whatever one he's in it doesn't take long to call roll." Everything you would want as a player and person was embodied in Stan Musial. Hall of Fame in every way.
Did you ever meet Stan Musial? I knew his family pretty well for a while.
Ray Gordon Teaches Chess is a fortunate individual. I didn't have an opportunity to meet the great man. Seeing him even in photos and film you have the feeling you knew the man. If they scoured the country over you couldn't find a man to say a word against him. Class through and through.
Musial was NOT a switch-hitter. He had 1815 hits at home and 1815 hits on the road. Musial said this in an interview that appears in this video…
The most this lad struck out was 46 Times, I'd like to see a ballplayer in this time go without 60.
Most likely won't ever happen in modern MLB.
He was dubbed 'The Man' in Bklyn.
We knew...
For those that don't know , check the stats.
Somehow, someway I believe he managed to be an even better person than he was a player. That's a helluva statement, but the reason I believe it to be true is that I've honestly never heard anyone that met him or knew him say any different.
Stop watchingafter 10 min. The constant music is over the top.
the is a lone northern cardinal in the 1904 world fair flight cage in the st louis zoo, I'll give you only one guess as to what his name is.
Last comment: had the honor to meet his grand nephew... SSG Musial, US Army, at Ft. Leonard Wood. Same grin, same Pennsylvania accent and soft voice. Shook the young man's hand and said "Tell Uncle Stan there's another hero in his clan."
Never before in the history of baseball, and never since, has one man meant so much to one city, and to only one city, as Stan Musial did to St. Louis. It is insane that he's not even considered the most famous ball player in his own home town of Donora, PA (That distinction belongs to Ken Griffey, Jr. Side note: Musial played alongside Junior's grandfather in high school). Derek Jeter came somewhat close, but the whole world were Jeter fans, it seemed. Musial, however, had to play in the shadow of DiMaggio and Ted Williams.
He was like the Batman of baseball. When you think of Batman, you immediately think Gotham City. When you think of Stan Musial, you immediately think St. Louis.
Best there ever was. Too bad that when he died last year he didn't get the tributes that the overrated Jeter is getting.
Exactly, but of course Jeter is black and that means everything to the liberal media
jimmy page
Nothing to do with the fact that Musial played for a bad club most of his career and was never on television...
Steve Veasey - It had everything to do with the Cardinals not being in the postseason from 1946 to 1964, the year after Stan retired and him playing in St. Louis as opposed to New York. It has nothing to do with race.
art724
Exactly, that's the point I was making, unless you played in New York in the 1950's you were only a regional celebrity. The Indians were as good if not better than the Yankees through most of that time but ask anybody to name a position player from those teams today and its tough. Only Ted Williams got any kind of exposure despite playing for a lousy team, Stan Musial should have got the same attention...
Steve Veasey exactly
I worked at KMOX, Sr.Lousi with JackBuck. He was unfriendly to the new kidd.
Ken Burns really dropped the ball on Stan Musial
Trader Frank Lane destroyed a promising and revitalized Cleveland Indian club after the 1959 season when he traded away the Rock for fading singles hitter Harvey Kuenn. He even traded his manager Joe Gordon for Detroit Tigers skipper Jimmy Dykes. He made 400 trades in his career, 241 with the White Sox . Lane traded players, such as Norm Cash, Rocky Colavito and Roger Maris who would all become stars. When with the Indians, He also traded Hall of Famers Enos Slaughter, Red Schoendienst and Early Wynn. Not all his trades were terrible and he did make a good one for the Brewers during his time there. The only ball player to go to his funeral was Bobby Bragan and the only reason he went was Bowie Kuhn asked him to represent baseball.
WOW!!! THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION!!! I could never figure out why Detroit traded Harvey Kuenn for the Rock! West Allies was not that far from Detroit. we sure were glad to have Rocky! he was a big help getting us 100 wins to finish 2nd to the Yankees in 1961 (but sportswriter Joe Falls ran Rocky outta town). so that's how Detroit got Norm Cash! AND TRADING MANAGERS!!?! has this ever happened before in baseball history!!?! a General Manager for the White Sox this century liked to trade a lot! he is given credit for the White Sox last American League Pennant and World Series victory (and got a promotion to VP or President or something). I still can't get over trading managers, though!!! what was Frank Lane trying to prove: "I'm your BOSS!" !!?!
@@samuelmoulds1016 That is the only time managers were ever traded.