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After spending a week with the base 911 Carrera, I wanted to sample the top of the range. So today, i've taken the Porsche 911 Turbo S 992 to Scotland for a brutally honest review! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Can you name a better road/car combo?
GT3 and A93? Looking forward to watching this one on the Turbo, great work!
@@oliwoods15great shout
ford ka 96 in purple
My cheap (3k) MX5 around the back roads of Burford. Dry road, just about perfect 👍
lol you aren't actually joking eith3er@@markcompton6750
a younger mans bias. a man over 45, financially well off, not thinking off how much noise a car makes, or kilometers per litre of petrol or cost comparisons. that's who this car is being marketed to! understatement is why i love this car. a younger man, under 35, with limited finances, and still some boyhood tastes, sees everything differently. i have a few million, i want the power,(better to have it and not need it), the comfort, i love flying under the radar, and as for cost, i'm sure i will die leaving money in my bank account! also this car is marketed to those of us who have several cars, not one or two.
It’s a good point, similar position, tho I don’t want a turbo, if I want to go fast I”ll fire up one of my ducatis, I’ll take a Carrera 4. I really havent got the balls to drop 180 large on a car. I like the colour. 911s really aren’t my dream car either.
Surely the Turbo S is the ultimate ‘compromise’ (in a privileged sense) car with unbeatable bandwidth for the buyer who can only have two cars - for parking/garaging reasons rather than financial. What else pairs this level of performance with an ability to sit in car parks without drawing too much attention?
A car enthusiast will always consider noise levels of a sports car and how fast it can go disregards of his age otherwise he would go buy himself a Bentayga and sure a sports car will never be your only car but you take it out when you are in the mood to get naughty.
Agree. I have a 997 Turbo (less money 😊) and a couple of larger SUVs. However I just bought a very low mileage Abarth 124 Spider. The 911 Turbo is brutal but anywhere but a track the Abarth is more fun. I'm replacing the cheapest plastic bits (like the sun visors) but sometimes money can steer you wrong.
There’s no car I want more, than the turbo S 😣
Joel you have very skilfully conveyed to the viewer how special this car makes the driver feel, I hope you continue to get access to cars like this. Well done with this one and all your highly engaging content which is so much better than the TV guys manage! I’ve been following you since the early days and so pleased to see the progress you’ve made in subs etc it’s richly deserved.
Lovely comment, much appreciated!
The biggest mistake of my entire life was to sell a Boxster S that I had! Not a single day goes by that I don’t think about that car!
Porsches DO make you feel special, it’s a life achievement!
You can purchase time whenever you like.
Why some people prefer Boxter over 911 ?
@@Aleppo.1234 They dont, the boxter is just much cheaper and more obtainable.
@@Aleppo.1234 Smaller, lighter, better balanced and drive a lot more like the 911s of old. If you're someone that drives on a track, you'd possibly like the feel of a 718 more than the 911. Also because the majority of us cannot even come close to unleashing the full potential of a 911 so it feels like you can get more out of the 718.
Great review!! And thanks for the tip regarding the beautiful scenery! Planning a road trip for next may, and this is now top on the list!!🤩
Really good review. Been following you since the 7 series days and your stuff is just getting better and better.
I recently got to drive a friend’s Turbo S over a mix of roads. As someone who has run base Carreras for over 20 years (a 993 and a 997), I have to say I was mightily impressed by it’s sheer competence. Impressed but not moved by the experience in anywhere near the same way I am every time I drive the Carreras. Made me think of a hefty sledgehammer versus pure and delicate scalpels.
Dude. You just compared, and I’ll stick with the 997, to a turbo s. Scalpel? In the motor tend figure 8, where you need to be a scalpel, the turbo S did it in 22 seconds. 2 seconds faster than 997 Carrera. Nurburgring Nord track, turbo s bests the 997 by 40 seconds man.
Take all that out and it still takes 20ft more to stop your 997.
Now 992 a different story. Motortend figure 8 the base 911 only loses to turbo s by .2 seconds. But still loses on the nord track by 13 seconds. Still has a worse lateral g. 2 full seconds slower from 0-100
All these cars are great for what each of us want. If you have the roads, want a daily driving rocket ship where you have many chances of feeling that acceleration and in control no matter the conditions, and have the $. Turbo s hands down every day. If you like rear wheel drive, and don’t have the roads, cash, don’t drive aggressive, well 911 base is your car. Still does 0-60 in 3.2.
Gt3 is awesome. But not a daily driver at all. More expensive than a turbo s. But I can get it in a manual and it’s fun as hell. It is more raw. Honestly it’d be great to have the turbo s as your daily and gt3 as your play toy. If $$ were unlimited : )
Yah I was a bit disappointed when I test drove the 992 turbo s. Its obviously fast but kind of soft and still had some lag. Hopping back into my MC20 immediately after, the MC20 def felt faster mainly because it was lower, louder, better steering ratio, RWD, and more raw. At that level of speed and hp, I'll take the car that has the better driving feel and sensation of speed over the car that objectively has a slightly quicker 0-60 and 1/4 mile time.
Loved this. Said it before but you are defo good enough for TV. This I thought was really well put together. Good work !
Fabulous video Joel, the best presentation of the Turbo S I have viewed on TH-cam... 😃
Turbo S has frequency adjustable auto windscreen wipers, operated from the column stalk. I live in the West Country with predominantly single carriageway roads and find the Turbo S one of the safest cars I have ever driven. There's enough grunt for every situation with overtaking opportunities that would not be possible in a Carrera.
Your talent of speaking professionally about a car in a informative but also emotional way while driving, shows again here. I am sure the Porsche guys know it as well and I am looking forward to the GT3 😁
A fantastic review Joel! Very honest, down to earth!
+1. Agreed. . Straight up, knowledgeable.
hey joel, great review as always, although i have something to point out, it does have rain sensing wipers. according to the manual book, to activate the rain sensing function is to put the stalk in the intermittent position, and to set the sensitivity of it is to toggle the intermittent speed switch to increase or decrease the sensitivity. this is how it is on porsches, including the macans, cayennes, they don't have an "auto" label on the wiper stalk, cheers.
Exactly the same on my Giulia qv
Love the intro, also the location ❤. Thanks for the video
Only had my 911 turbo S for less than a year and absolutely love it
You did a great job on the production of the video 👍
Great review Joel, fantastic setting. I have to say the 911 Turbo S is my lotto win car, brilliant all weather piece of kit.
Outstanding review.
You thoroughly covered a very complex car….and broke it down into understandable segments.
The comparison to the base Carrera was very interesting and informative.
I have a 2023 911 that I took delivery on in April.
I absolutely adore this car !!!
Thanks for the fine review !
Thank you it really gave me pleasure to see you driving it and reminded me of how much I miss mine. I am away but back home soon. Great review brother!
I own a 991 Turbo and can relate to this video. It is an amazing grand tourer. Comfortable, smooth and lots of power on reserve. Where it falls short is on that visceral feel. You feel very removed from the engine, chassis, and road. If you look at this car from a lens of refinement it’s quite amazing what they have achieved. However if you look at it from the view of an analog, focused sports car…the cayman is a better platform
That's exactly what I wonder about all of these supercars. They may be perfect at going ridiculously fast in any conditions but do they have SOUL??
@@lotsofcurveslover very few modern sportscars have feel / soul.
Some modern hothatches still "kinda" have some soul, but not much of them.
I have a 991.2 Turbo S. I don't find it feels removed from anything to be honest. Mine has a tune and exhaust, nothing else and makes nearly 700hp. To be fair, they did significantly upgrade the steering for the 991.2 and it has quite a bit more feel than the 991.1. I've done a dozen track days, and about the same amount of drag strip nights over the past 7 seasons and for me, it's terrific and gives me just the feedback I need because I'm acclimatized to it. It is RUTHLESSLY fast in the right environment.
The exhaust gave it some soul / noise that the car needed. Hanging the tail out in a particular sequence of corners in my car is hilarious fun, people that tell you these cars have no soul etc. just aren't driving them fast enough because they have HIGH levels of competence.
@@ShamanWS6 good point...do you have to drive these cars crazy fast to feel the soul?
@@lotsofcurveslover You don't. But it sure helps, because the limits of them are very high. You don't have to do full throttle all the time or anything, just bring your corner speeds up and ride the wave of turbo torque. But on the track they are relentless.
Absolutely love the spec of this car. Looking forward to the vlog ❤
I own a 997.2 Turbo S it’s absolutely the right width for U.K. Roads, Depreciation over 5yrs zero in fact I was offered £8000 more than I paid for it by a Porsche dealership last year..
it genuinely shocks me how you have such little views you have. I wish you all the success because the videography in this video alone is absolutely brilliant.
Great review , even the Robin liked it !! (2.37) . nice editing and sound.
A beautiful car in amazing scenery! Love the video
"The gears are too tall" That's how it's like with all modern supercars. You're already practically breaking the speed limit in 1st on the GT3...as I found out.
Great review as always Joel. Love these road trip videos. Going on a road trip next year and I'm looking for an overnight stay in the Glencoe area. What were your thoughts on the Kingshouse Hotel
A wasn’t expecting much from this review however a really well done video and excellent delivery of the narrative 👍
Great video 💥
Great spec!
Was up there myself recently with my Cayman….
It’s still easy to break the speed limits even with my crappy two litre…
Smiles per miles….
Less is more 💥
Love it….
Safely mod it to ~ 1000 hp, , always drive it in Sport plus and be ready to frequently use the 20 second boost button to keep the hyper-speed window small by following up a smooth boost/throttle modulated auto shift session with those great brakes to elude the constabulary. You will need headers, 100 cell cats, and a Tubi Style straight pipe muffler by pass to enjoy the aural character of this beast that was chained and muzzled by the time it was released from the production line.
Best car ever made.
Always look forward to your content.
Great review. I'm still thrilled with my 997.2TT (PDK). I do use its performance (situationally aware) every day, and I like its low profile: quiet exhaust; tame aero; and the AWD reduces wheelspin, especially in Winter driving. 997's are more compact with more steering feedback (hydraulic). I do agree that poor fuel efficiency is a significant downside costwise, environmentally, with frequent fill-ups. I do miss Android Auto, and backup camera. I agree that its weight at 3700 lbs is a deficit. I opted for EVOMSit so I've got over 600bhp.
Excellent review Joel, thank you.
Excellent review!
introduction was nice and we got to appreciate that sometimes no matter how good a car might be the scenery these cars are taken into is the reason these cars are made.
Great stuff, Joel. Well done.
Good video Joel, would be interested to see your thoughts on something more obtainable than a GT3. Have you driven the GTS?
Great review stunning scenery and the colour and interior are classy.
Great detailed review!
Sorry but this is a TurboS ... flagship car. The issues you pick up are first world and the people who will mostly want to afford or can afford it... TurboS buyers tend to be the ones that want people to see thats what they can afford. And why say something in two minutes when you can say it in ten ..... please keep the potential to do a great review economical in length and cut down on the repeating ... otherwise well done. Try a CarreraT .... THIS may be your sweet spot 🙂
Another great video Joel 👌👏the base Carrera is the pick of the range
Come along way from the Z4.
Well done.
Keep keeping on.
Luv and Peace.
Wow the cinematography is amazing.
Your cinematic shots and editing has come so far!
What an epic start of a video, the music, the first shot of you inside the car, the leather seats... OMG, this one gave me the fizz❤❤
If you get the chance, be great to see a review of the current Targa. Much more GT cruiser focussed and perfect for these epic road trips
Mate! That opening! Wicked!
Great review. I have a 2004 Carerra which is a great car, and recently looked to upgrade to a 992 Carerra which I thought was just brilliant. I’ve always wondered whether a TurboS would really offer much benefit in normal driving.
The robin at 2:40 trying to hitch a ride,
How do you think it compares to the 997?
I own a 991.2 turbo s and I absolutely love it. I’ve driven a Carrera S before, but felt it was too underwhelming! You’re driving in a remote part of Scotland and yet complaining you can’t go over 60 mph😂 and exploit its performance!! Jesus! Live a little
Cheers, brother! Mine is white with burgundy interior.
Amazing intro Joel
Good real review well done
Cool show 👍🏻 Happy festive days from 🇨🇭
Great review with amazing scenery and backdrop.
I agree that awesome as the Turbo undoubtedly is the base car may just be more fun more of the time.
Maybe the GTS is the pick of the range.
MPG means nothing to a sportscar owner.
If MPG meant anything we wouldn't be in these cars.
My 2.5si Z4 is averaging 19mpg and it makes me happy.
Luv and Peace.
Well done Joel, as an elder auto enthusiast and first time seeing you (already subscribed), I congratulate you on your assessment fitting the driver needs and behavior if on public roads. The GT3 is definitely a wise overall choice with the nominally aspirated engine singing at 9K. can become an addiction for some of us, lol, I go further and say I would absolutely go with the manual gearbox for that extra connection and experience, cheers! 👍
Amazing film!
Good review 👍
Decent video, although it’s obvious that you’re not a fan of the car. We all know that a super car can’t be fully utilized on public roads and we all know that the base 911 is a lot of car for the money. Before you say that the cruise control, the wipers or the CarPlay doesn’t do this or that, it might be a good idea to take a couple of minutes to look in the owner’s manual and see how these things operate, so you can prevent yourself from making false statements about them.
Was I wrong regarding the Apple car play and cruise control? I did look in the owners manual for these things and found no way to do the things I mentioned in the video 👍🏻
@@itsjoel Yes, actually. The car does Apple Carplay and depending on your options the cruise control does a variety of things. I own multiple cars and while mine does not have any of the radar cruise options I find it the best cruise system of all of them. Hold it in to jump up or down 10kph, it will brake to prevent the car speeding up much going downhill... etc.
I'm enjoying the crap out of my 22 Turbo S Cabriolet with a 100hp computer tune. It feels like a sling shot passing other cars through traffic or entrance ramps
Great video, Joel! I hope the Robin at 2:40 survived.
Just over ride the adaptive cruise with the pedals
Just to note that of course you can spec that interior on the base Carerra, and the exterior Aventurine Green colour is also a standard metallic option for the 992 range. Similarly, you can spec a Turbo S with same yellow exterior and the same black interior as on the base Carrera you tested.
I don't think people who can afford Turbo S is going to care, they would buy it just because they can. 😅 A case for Turbo S is that there are certain of us who likes speeds, just pure unadulterated speeds!
Thanks Joel. I think you miss an important detail though. If you're in the demographic to be purchasing a Turbo S, you don't care about losing 10 mpg to the base model. Nor do you actually care that there's a ton of unaccesable perfromance on UK roads. You just know that it's there, and to those that can afford it, it's worth every penny. Great review though, keep doing what you're doing
Love the Adventurine Green colour. Soon to be PTS only
Nice gig if you can get it though….I love Glen Coe valley and other favourite is the road to Ballater even better in an old Porsche Boxster roof down 😊 summer or winter…..
Beautiful car and totally agree colour is amazing 👍
I wondered when this one would hit after seeing you in it a few weeks back 👍
Thanks for voicing my thoughts about ridiculously quick supercars on public roads. They're just an exercise in frustration and most owners just get them for bragging rights. I just found your channel and subscribed.
What a statement. So just because you have a super car, you should not use public roads. I have a 2014, never launched it, drive it a lot and sometimes on open highways get it up to 110 as a great driver. I have seen thousands of cars pass me, so does that make them all bad drivers?
Try to tell that to the drivers that have been drinking! And you worry about sport enthusiasts.
In a week, I get the 2024 version, but it took a year and a half for the allocation, so believe me, it’s well worth it. We all have different opinions about cars, and unless you own one, able to afford one, or like your type, anyone else can tell you why you should not get one. I have owned many BMWs, and a Mercedes, but would never get anything besides the Turbo S. My opinion.
That Range Rover risky overtake. 😮😮
It’s not the car that frustrate you, it’s your mindset
Exactly 😏
U can use both kinds of cruise.
And yes it has auto wipers
Joel, you will have to move to Autobahn country. I live 5 minutes from a looong unrestricted stretch north of Hamburg. Too much power is never a frustrating thing here 😂 !
There's an east fix to the experience here. Get an exhaust. I own this car, I put an akrapovic exhaust on it and it changed the experience. It sounds mean and angry but not in a cheap way and yeah you can still drive the car in normal and have it be mostly quiet but give it a little boost or better yet drive it in sport or port plus and the car becomes an animal
Nice video but there is a glaring error in it PDDC does not stiffen the suspension. it is to stiffens the engine mounts to help in cornering (you don't have a moment of force on the rear engine moving in it mounts in the corner). So it does create a more jiggly ride on the straights but improves cornering.
To stiffen the suspension you need to change the suspension modes (Sports and sports+).
To take a car like this that is built for a very specific purpose and judge it like you would judge a Toyota Camry seems bit of a waste of time. There are very few people who actually get these cars and none of them care about any of the complaints being mentioned in this review. Try a Cabriolet version on an open highway on a bright day, there’s nothing like it. Keep one for more than 3 months, you will want it to go faster. No car is too fast once you get used to it. If worried about breaking speed limits, why would anyone even consider a sports car like this? But thank you for your effort.
Hear, hear.
Does it have an SD card reader? I prefer it for my music source.
Good review. I suspect the same 'less is more' opinion on what would be a better road car could also be applied to the 911 vs a (six cylinder) Cayman. You just need the self confidence to brush off the claims that you have a Cayman/Boxster because you couldn't afford a 911.
What a great review Joel. Good to see young people like you taking on the baton.
not sure if anyone has commented, but very, very well done mic'ing while on the interior. That is an art form and you've done it well. That feather is not a wardrobe accessory, ha
Oh, my dreamcar, how did you manage to get your hands on 1!
Does this car have the sport chassis (S-PASM)? From the ride height it looks not.
Problem is…. The top spec 911 cars just perplex me on the “value equation”. As you say, it’s twice the cost of the entry 911 which at £100k more, makes one wonder, what could be possibly worth the extra. I love Porsche and have owned plenty in last 25 years. Same issue presented itself when looking to upgrade my McLaren 570 spider… the increased cost to a new 720 spider was over £100k… and I couldn’t justify that, so just bought a Ferrari California T instead which is a great GT car verses an out-n-out sports car. So now I have two cars that do different things for the price of one, and still some left over to get a GR Yaris to hoon around a track with impunity…😁
I can tell you one thing: right now my car is 7 years old and yet I could sell it for probably $20K less than I bought it. That makes it cheaper to own than my diesel truck which eats tires and has issues every year when the 911 just soldiers on no matter how I drive it... and I take it to the track.
Sure I've just seen this for sale on the Porsche Approved used website. Stunning vehicle for sure.
I think this is why people love the 997 turbo. It’s brutal fast but manageable and the perfect size.
Stunning spec, let’s be honest it’s the car you need to have in your life ❤❤❤
I have to say as an ex 911 owner, the most entertaining Porsches are smaller and mid engined.. I liked my 911 but I love my GT4
Would you prefer a Cayman or a Boxter ?
I prefer a Cayman@@Aleppo.1234
Joel you stepped up the standards with excellent production including the beautiful scenery, well done and keep up this superb production. In summary watching your contents on the 911 base V 911 turbo, power corrupts. I get your point this car is excess to requirements. I drive a base Cayman and after extended test drive of Cayman S I could barely justify buying the latter considering the value and the performance difference. Brilliant review.
Subscribed!😊
As a old git of 52 green and tan perfect spec
…with respect to the exhaust, I replaced the OEM with an aftermarket 3” X-pipe exhaust and it completely transformed my driving enjoyment/experience. The Turbo is known as “Top” in Germany, so it’s considered the King of 911s. Enough said. YMMV.
finally someone has the guts to say the truth - the car has actually got too good for the current road legistlation and sensible saftety ! Good on you Joel, and good on Porsche supporting you. I've kind of given up on these videos on youtube, but this is refreshing ..... and I expect Porsche will come good with a GT3 (hopefully RS). I would be particularly interested in a video of you driving GT3 at the Silverstone experience centre as I am thinking of booking for me and my son as a treat, but I suspect the GT3 might have outgrown that facility as the 4S we both drove there seemed plenty quick enough !!
I have a 2021 BMW S1000RR M package motorbike - 207bph and all the driving modes and features you have in a modern 911. The bike has way more power than I will ever need or use and I have only ever used one of its driving modes but I never think this bike is ridiculous and I was silly to buy it because its way too fast for me or the law. Just owning one of the fastest bikes on the road today is enough enjoyment for me. Id have that Turbo S in a heartbeat too if I could afford it even if I would rarely exceed the speed limit in it.
I have a vague and entirely unsubstantiated suspicion that Joel occasionally deviates from standard traffic regulations
Having been lucky enough to won a few 911's over the years, I find it hard to get any emotional excitement out of the modern versions with turbo's. They just sound asthmatic - looks wise they are stunning in my eyes but I miss the mechanical flat 6 howl. Based on that, would an electric 911 be any different?. Just saying....
No automatic wipers in my 987.2 Boxster either haha
I saw a black one parked up a couple of years ago. Looked like a space capsule from Mars. I'm not sensible enough to not want one.
For me it’s perfect.
For a moment you sounded like Mat Watson when starting about your door pocket and a big water bottle. Never understood that. Of course having some water with you on your drive is nice, but drinking from a 1,5l bottle when driving is nearly impossible, so you have to stop anyway :D
Completely agree, there is fast and there is stupid fast and stupid fast is really only for the "top of the range" brigade not the enthusiasts.