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There was something a German tanker once said about American tanks: “One German tank is easily worth ten American tanks! The problem is the Americans always seem to have 11 of them!”
The Kill ratio in WW2 for the average Tiger tank was 10:1, meaning that a tiger would destroy 10 Sherman’s before it goes down. So this quote checks out. Too bad the US made 50,000 Sherman’s and the Germans only made alittle over 1000 Tigers
My father - 94 years old today - has seen those signs with his own eyes... In late winter of 1945 my dad together with a lot of other kids were kept in a school building like prisoners, waiting to be sent to Austria the next days to fight against the Red Army. It was called the "Volkssturm". My dad was 16 at this time. Luckily he and two other kids were able to sneak out of that building and escaped at night. On their way to a refugee train they passed a small town. The central place of that town was bordered with trees... On every tree there was a man or even a teenager hanging with those signs around their necks... If my dad and his fellas would have been caught by the SS I wouldn´t be able to write these lines. The guys who stayed in that school building.... no one of them came back... ever
@@MyDude0064 Civilians... teenagers 12-17 years old and old men above 60 years. Equipped with guns from WW1, if they were lucky and of course no battlefield experience... cannon fodder...
I really loved this story, seeing a German perspective of WW2. Not a Nazi perspective, a German one. Soldiers fighting for their country and home while the party pushed them to further atrocities, and convinced young naive men to give their lives for a lost cause. Band of Brothers has an episode like this, where they have a German regiment that's like a mirror to the American 101st Airborne. They had a lot of the same experiences and faced the same trials and losses. In war they were enemies, but in another life they might have been good friends.
that last sentence reminds me of an interview from a WW1 Veteran who tells his story about fighting in the trenches. He said, that after he had killed a french corporal in close combat, he felt sick and was ashamed of himself. He thought that he and this man could have been friends and the only reason they were all going at eachother was the fact they wore different uniforms.
Talking about humanising the Wehrmacht; they tended to be seen more like people. My grandad was friends with a couple of former Wehrmacht after the war, after he'd spent half a decade as a Royal Marine. War is a weird, weird thing
@@lucasrokitowski8707 Same could be said about the Japanese and how people often feel sympathy (and well technically, rightfully so) toward the japanese after the nuclear bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima (BOT OFTEN FORGET THE INSANE FIRE BOMBING OF TOKYO) like it's rarely touched... But I derailed; The Japanese were not innocent and I don't even refer to Pearl Harbour, I am talking about what the Japenese did to the Chinese. Nanking... I mean... Here you go en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
The easiest thing to assume is that all Germans were die hard Nazi fanatic's, however a majority of the German army where just regular men fighting a war for their country. Not saying the German army didn't commit some gruesome and terrible things during the war. However when you dive deep into World War II history, especially from the perspective of the other side, and ignore all the common consensus that you've heard, their is a lot that makes them more human than monsters. As the war ended many German soldiers lost faith and hope in their leadership, the propaganda couldn't hide the destruction and death as they fought in their own nation and cities against the Allied tide. They witnessed children being given guns and told to fight next to the soldiers, often just to delay an enemy advance so the army could retreat, a majority of the time being a suicide order to buy time for more defenses to be built else where. The Voldsstrum isn't depicted in the game, but they are civilians conscripted to fight. They are given a weapon, little training to use it, an told to defend Germany to the death. Any who refused to fight were declared traitors and hung for treason, serving as an example to others who refused to fight. The signs were usually common on their bodies, To sum up the signs on the hanging soldiers, "I'm a traitor to Germany," I have deserted Germany", I refused to fight for Germany." It's so easy to depict German soldiers as evil men, murdering and destroying everything in their path, it's easier to kill a faceless monster then another human with a face.
The best war story of the game, that piano theme is so good... I'm a bit fan of WW2 history and playing this chapter knowing that the german forces were in the last stand fighting alongside the volkssturm which were conscripts civilians, vets of ww1, and the Hitler youth surrounded with bits of ammo, no food or medical supplies... was heartbreaking, if you want an excellent depiction of how were the last moments of Germany I suggest you watch the movie downfall, great reaction as always. Love from Ecuador.
I once watched a streamer play this campaign and he was like "man it feels weird shooting at US Soldiers", now you can understand how I/we felt when shooting at "the Bad Germans" for all those years. Yeah not everyone was innocent back in those times but what I remember from what my grandfather and Great-Grandfather told me, Some of those Soldiers were just trying to defend their families and their Home. I'm by no means justifying what they did but they were just Humans. At the end of the Day we are all just Humans and we need to learn from our past generations and not repeat their mistakes. Sorry for the small rant haha. I enjoy watching your reactions If I have to recommend a movie, it's called "Land of Mine" it takes place after war in Denmark. Germany placed a lot of Mines on Danish shores and german pow were send there to disarm them after the war. Most of them were child soldiers. It's really heartbreaking to watch Greetings from Germany
What a lot of people don't understand is that plenty of German soldiers were not Nazis, some just thought they were defending their country, and a lot were forced to go to war. All SS were Nazis but not all Germans soldiers were SS nor Nazis.
@@bastiwen my great grandfather was forced from his home and was sent to fight on the eastern front. That’s why it grinds my gears when someone claims that all axis soldiers were monsters. I’d claim that most we’re fighting for themselves or their families rather than for their evil leaders.
@@bastiwen I think the majority of the German soldiers weren't Nazis, tbh. I don't think most of the German people during that time were Nazis either. the Nazis just sold a good story, good enough for the population to get behind. Not saying it was right, but. 🤷🏾♂
@@ShawnTheDriver as a historian once said, the first country the nazis invaded was their own. And when Germany was liberated the german civilians treated the allies like they were liberators, saviors saving them from the clutch of the nazis. And that alone shows that the civilians didn’t always entirely support it all.
@@bastiwen In the end, the spinelessness and opputunism of the conservatives led to the disaster. The Nazis were "only" elected by 30% of the population. If the Conservatives hadn't passed a government with them, this filthy party would never have come to power.
A little detail at 21:34, the sound is that of the American M3 grease gun and not the MP40 that the kid is using, implying that either the kid was shot before executing the commander or the commander was shot by one of the soldiers
Call of Duty World At War is another amazing game with a very brutal depiction of World War 2, music alone is terrifying it's one of the few games to really show the horrors of war something every Call of Duty after has failed to come close. World of War also carried over into Black Ops which is set in the Cold War and does a good job as well just showing a different era of war going for a more action film feel. The Battlefield stories are great much more hopeful and inspiring while World of War is very much about showing you the negatives of war and that there's never a true winner which is brought back up in Black Ops 1.
the fact its a rare instance a game allows you to play as the opposing faction in a war that makes this such a great mission. We're all used to playing the good guys and winning the day, but never think about being in the shoes of those soldiers fighting for what they thought was right, being scared and seeing their word crumble around them. There are some terrible people in history, but most of the enemy, were just people.
The signs: 13:40. Ich habe deutschland verraten "I have betrayed Germany" 13:50 Ich bin ein deserteur "I am a deserter" 14:48 deserteur (i think) "Deserter" The punishment for being captured by your fellows was death by hanging and public shaming. The public shaming was an attempt to discourage new desertions and a way to tell the others "look at my selfishness, instead of protecting you/fighting at your side i preferred to run like a coward" The amounts of desertions between the soldiers of the wehrmacht greatly increased during the last months of war, because they knew it was over. Despite all i still feel sorry for them, the human instinct is to flee from the danger, not holding a position and shooting back, especially when you know to be fighting an already lost battle, it felt like losing their lives over nothing.
7:11 The stripes painted on the cannon's barrel are basically a mark of the number of kills they have made against the enemy. There's a lot of stripes on that barrel.
I was Canadian Army and served in a combat unit for 6 years and I swore that I would carry the philosophy of “I will kill my enemy, but I will not hate them.”…end of the day they were brave enough to fight just like me, and maybe in another life we could have been friends. Also, those signs on the hanged men say something along the lines of “I am a deserter.”
This reminds me of Wolf Kahler's speech in Band of Brothers (He plays the German general in ep. 10). It reminds the viewers that the German soldiers was doing a job for their country, the same as the Allied soldiers were.
Fun historical facts Hannah: most people part of the Wehrmacht (the regular german armed forces at that time) did not support nazi ideology. they had to obey or they would get shot, or worse. heck they banned anyone in the regular army from joining the nazi party. The SS are the ones who were essentially volunteers, full blown nazi, and a private army of Hitler, not a national one like the Wehrmacht. Even some german high commanders expressed displeasure at nazi ideology and corruption, such as General Rommel. Both sides willingly targeted civilian infrastructure and civilians themselves the allies and soviets did not know about concentration camps until 1944 and 1945 respectively. (5-6 years into the war) Luftwaffe (german air force) aces were often honourable, meaning that they wouldnt shoot pilots and crews who ditched out of a shot down aircraft in parachutes. The luftwaffe also prohibited their members from joining the nazi party, tho the luftwaffe is more closely related to the party than their navy or army due to their founding members all being part of the party, however, most were just young men who were drafted and wanted to fly, and didnt care much for the party.
Yes the terribel propaganda of the Nazis was one of the worse things on the third rich. This make us problems until today. An example: My grandpa was a pilot at the offensive of the ardennen. He never tell much about it. Only this story: He should bombard a farm and was so nervous or brave, that he dropped the bomb too early. His chief told him, that he from now on, had to fly first in line. And if he dropp the bomb too early again, the squadron will fire on him. And so the next bomb hit the target. He hate the Nazis after the war. But I told you this, because our old neighbour. He was in the "Hitlerjugend" like my grandpa, but to young to go to war. And he was until the end the opinion, that under the Nazis was the things good. This man has lived 75 Years. The most of it in our democracy, but the indoctrinated still worked.
The Tiger was pretty infamous among the allies. British tanks capable of taking one on were much slower, while tanks fast and agile enough to engage them lacked sufficient firepower or durability. Same with the German battleship Bismarck; anything that could catch her couldn't sink her, and anything that could sink her couldn't catch her.
The Bismarck should be referred to as a male, not a female. Germans named their ships and vehicles with men's names, as opposed to most western nations who use female names instead.
@@B-Que-Walker Au contraire; the Kriegsmarine referred to their ships as males. Allied High Command referred to the German's fleet with female pronouns.
@@B-Que-Walker The first transmission from Ark Royal following the torpedo attack was that "we have confirmed hits to *HER* rudder." I don't really care how the Nazí's would have preferred me to describe her 😁
So the Tank Commander isn't a Nazi, he's just a soldier in the army. he doesn't agree with the ideology however doesn't speak out against it either but he does over the course of this 3-4 hour story, he also does not see the point in killing people like they were doing in this level IE hanging fathers, old people and troops for "deserting" simply because they are incapable of fighting or suffering from some health issue (PTSD etc). The tank driver is not a Nazi either but does speak out against it from time to time and also hates seeing young soldiers dieing for no good reason (he along with the commander are old friends who have served together for many years, the other 2 are new crew). The gunner is a nazi who was part of the Hitler Youth which is why he is fanatical about Germany being superior and only cares about winning.
I don't know how I feel about this. It's kind of getting into the weeds a bit. I would have to give it more thought to fully articulate an answer, but I think arguing about who is and is not a Nazi in the German army in world war 2 is semantics. They still did what they did. Idk if it makes sense but to me, doing the thing makes you part of the thing. I'm not explaining my thoughts well.
@@HannaHsOverInvested No, that's absolutely legit. As the commander himself said 'I was there'. He and the driver may not have been true believers, but they were still complicit.
@@HannaHsOverInvested It's shown during the actual missions you play along with a lot more dialogue, cutscenes only show you part of the story :\ I do get what you mean though, like that skit "Are we the baddies?" by Mitchell and Webb
@@HannaHsOverInvested i do think there can be a divide between "German soldiers" and Nazi, case in point, the battle of Castle Itter, were a division of German army troops, and a single SS officer, teamed up with the Americans to protect a number of French POW, including the former Prime Minister of France, from a force of more fanatical SS troops. it's a fascinating story, and, one I hope gets told more, to bring it more into public perspective. there was supposed to be a movie in the works about it, but, then Covid happened.
Ohh the white subtitles. That was a big complaint when the game first launched. There's a mission in Norway, where your character is speaking Norwegian the whole time and the subtitles are solid white, in a snow setting. Honestly
who can determine who is on the wrong side of history as the victors write history. But yeah battlefield is very good at making heartfelt campaigns that you care for, and honestly the last tiger is the best one they made in battlefield 5 as you are not fighting to win, you are defending your land and protecting those behind you. Sadly most germans be it soldiers or civilians had no clue what happend with the jews and less desirables... Most were utterly shocked.
12:08 loved the reaction, but I wanted to point something out because its so common. Not all german soldiers were Nazi's, some were just soldiers. The Nazi's ruled Germany at the time, but they didnt exclusively draft people with the same "political" or moral beliefs.
I played this Story myself, and its amazing in my opinion. For me as a German it was also kinda line playing as the former „us“ and it really showed that were all just people. Some do good and some do bad, unfortunately.
When she said "thank you lexi" I pointed at the screen and said "I gotchu" anyway thanks for taking my request, I do highly recommend you play the last of us very early on in your gaming journey, you will not regret it I promise ! , I might give some more recommendations in the future so watch out for my name ! Lol love you and good luck with your gaming journey, I promise very powerful and heart warming stories await you ❤️
I remember having family members tell me the story of Battle of Berlin because they served or they were civilians trying not to get hurt by either side had a family member told me that he was Manning a machine gun in one of the churches in Berlin but he ran out of ammunition and he looked around and saw all his friends and comrades Brothers in arms was killed either by grenades but bullets or shell shock got to them first I cried uncontrollably when i finished this mission because it helped me put in perspective what my family went through that same relative that fought in Berlin said to me that when the American soldiers came up to his position he just walked out from behind the sandbags crying he had the dog tags of his friends he said the American soldiers looked at them with chocolate understanding damn it I'm crying again
The last quote about fighting until the bitter end even if it sets the world ablaze is something a lot of nations say in war. When Britain wanted to capitulate, but ultimately didn't, we see them as heroes for not surrendering. But when German soldiers did the same, we see them as barbaric and evil because they would rather die than surrender. It is interesting to me that they are essentially the same thing. Being patriotic to your country until the bitter end. The truth is that a soldier just does what he is told, and no matter the nation they are all brainwashed to believe they are in the right...
Hugh I've never played this, different from a German perspective, but I completely agree that we shouldn't wipe out what people have done in history! We all need to learn and overcome our mistakes as a species as a whole.......All history is human history! I like your reactions man, some brains in that pretty little head of yours! 😉👍🏻
@@Juhani96 It's a sad thing, that happens in our time, right now and for the last few years. Where people change history books, to fit their narrative. They change history and with that they are doomed to repeat it. I do not like the qoran, or the bible or tora, but I would never burn a copy of it. Someone once said "First, they burn the books, but people quickly follow." Yes, these books can be dangerous in the wrong hands, but to burn ideas is even more dangerous. Who decides what is allowed and what not? I fear what will happen to us in the next few years, when radicals grow stronger everywhere. We are running at full speed into the next great apocalypse. Because we destroy our own lands and people. Clima changes, wars are waged, trade routs are in danger and with it famine spreads, refugees grow in numbers as people flee their homes in hope of a new live and more wars will follow. This describes the bronze age collaps, or is it our time?
the line "but i was there' is a direct quote from Franz Stangl's final interview - he died of heart failure 19 hours later. For those who dont know, Stangl was the first commandant of the Sobibor death camp. Despite gaining a fearsome reputation there (and the nickname "the white death") it appears that Stangl was not an ardent mass murderer; he quickly began drinking heavily and the killings at Sobibor fell very far behind the nazi's schedule, leading to Stangl being removed in a matter of months after building the camp. At the end of the war Stangl fled to south america but never tried to hide and he was eventually captured and sentenced to prison in 1967. As the last of the death camp commanders a journalist named Gita Sereny inteviewed him a number of times in prison. Sereny was especially interested in whether Stangl had any remorse, because Stangl had consistently maintained that he was just following orders. Then, in his final, tense, interview, Stangl said "i was there.... that is my guilt. I was there". Sereny's account of the interview is extraordinary. Having appeared to have finally recognised his guilt aloud, Stangl died 19 hours later.
A fault of history taught to young students is simplifying history too much. It's easier to imply that "Nåzi Germany" means that every German was a member of the party and that every party member was a German, both of which are false. Hardliners weren't the demons as is often portrayed but more pathetic ideologues that thought that making things worse for everyone would make things better for some. Outside of those, many can be swept up in a building wave to do things they would have thought impossible before and things that they didn't think they would ever do before. All for something they believe to be good, but what can be a nightmare.
The signs on the hanged, Mostly consist of it saying "I am a coward and refuse to fight for Germany " Or " I am a coward" SS officers acted as judge, hurry and executioner. Didn't matter how old. If you caught, you could be sure you be made an example of
And if you think the west theater was bad, then the Eastern front is hell. The Soviets went on a revenge mission, German soldiers and civilians would try to kill themselves if they got the chance, As Soviets would either beat or line them up and have them shot. In Berlin it was horrible, Especially if you were a civilian that didn't flee in time. Worst if you were a woman..
Your point about people learning they're on the wrong side of history, Think about this, some Germans had previously fought through ww1 and were called up again to fight, and then when Germany surrendered they had to treat the allies as neutral parties again. I can't imagine fighting an enemy for so long, enemies responsible for possibly killing your friends in the army, and going back to normality. I'm not excusing them for their acts, but we weren't guilt free either, war is hell.
As "popular history" paints the German military during WWII there were good people fighting both for and against the German army. Now there is no excuse for the Holocaust, but that was primarily handled by SS Officers and the genocide wasn't broadcasted to the German army. On top of consripting people, the German army was also partly captured troops who got the choice of fighting for Germany or death. I abhor the acts comitted by the nazis, but when it came to many of the main line German troops, a lot of them were just soldiers in a war no different than the Americans, Canadians, or British. People all know about the Holocaust, but it seems few know of "The Rape of Nanking" and the horrendous warcrimes comitted by the Japanese to the Chinese. And the Allies have their fair share of warcrimes under their belts aswell, nobody has clean hands regardless of where you stand. And again I would REALLY like to preface that I'm very much against the things done by the Germans, but most Germans didn't find out about the "work camps" until after the war ended. To convey what I mean I suggest reading about "Karl Plagge" the German Officer who saved hundreds of Jews during the Holocaust.
While it follows the Clean Wehrmacht Myth (wehrmacht was good and innocent, the SS were the real baddies), it’s still a good perspective for a game to present. (It also follows the “German technological superiority myth”, which is cool in a storytelling perspective but also flat out untrue.
This was easily my favorite war story, in fact I was so pissed at Schröder, and sad for Kertz, that I literally cried my first play through. And I rarely cry. The piano theme didn't help. This game has some incredible music.
From what people could gather, the boy, Schröder, that was about to shoot Peter, had been shot by an American before he could get his gun properly aimed at Peter. This is because the gun sound we hear at the end is not from the boy’s MP40. But an M3 Grease Gun
After some consideration, I think the GIs shot the boy, now that his gun was turned away. The reason being the two shots fired sounded like two separate guns (M1 Garand), fired in close succession unlike the MP-40(?) which has a slower cadence.
I've been catching up on your backlog of Non-Gamer watches, and it's been a lot of fun to see these trailers again, through your eyes. I'd like to suggest one of the best trailers ever created for a game, which is Warhammer's Mark of Chaos: th-cam.com/video/dNFGJQIW5ZM/w-d-xo.html. it goes from zero to sixty real fast.
React to “How Zyzz became a legend” it’s actually a pretty inspiring yet tragic story and I wanna know what you think about a guy who’s basically considered a god in the fitness community.
Thank you for making that distinction. Many people don't know the difference between Wehrmacht soldiers and Jew-killing pigs. I don't blame her though as it's more of a failure of the education system and rumors. Even allied soldiers from ww2 had a hard time distinguishing between the two.
@5:41 My view is that learning is a life long endeavor, and that re-examining our own beliefs critically from time to time is healthy practice. But it can be challenging to do, especially if someone has internalized an opinion as part of identity or culture. And if you one day come to a new conclusion that is in conflict with your peers and community do you risk becoming ostracized for sharing that new view? ...I guess all I'm really saying is that regardless of what views people have I wish more people would reflect upon them.
Peter survived most likely since he is narrating his story and that the sound of the gun when it cut to the black screen was the M3A1 Grease Gun that some of US soldiers were using not the MP-40 implying that the US soldiers killed the kid.
YES!!! Finally Hannah reacted to this!!! When I first played through this mission I was very sceptical, and surprised how a AAA company was going to handle this. It may not bode well regarding PR, and all also you play as literal Nazis, I thought they may have cheapened the take on the baddies side, boy was I in for a heart wrenching shocker. The End scene when TC Peter gets shot by the younger tankman was extremely sad. The Runner mission in Battlefield 1 and now this ... I have to say those are in my top 10 gaming missions, or atleast gaming cutscenes. To add on when playing it felt weird and wrong to shoot and destroy allied troops and tanks... I got over it towards the cathedral mission, but hearing americans say "Just give up already" or smth etc when you are fighting them, idk, I have played too many WW2 games on the allied side I guess. EDIT: Due to misinterpretation of shorthand refer to comments.
Actually you didn’t play as Nazis. The crews were often from the Wehrmacht and only the tank commanders could come from from the Waffen SS but not always. So not Nazis, just Nazi and that’s only if the tank commander we sometimes play as is actually from the Waffen SS. Idk why everyone thinks every German soldier in WWII was a nazi
@@naturalbadger5258 Yes and no obviously everyone wasnt a card carrying Nazi, however I do believe the "Clean Wermacht" narrative doesnt hold they too did commit heinous warcrimes although not as often and as gruesome as the SS Divisions . I am aware the diffrerent branches did come into conflict with each other, but more over pride, war planning and allocation of resources than on anti-nazi sentiment/unnecessary violence. TLDR No I dont bellieve they were all nazis, I was just using shorthand.
@@naturalbadger5258 The "clean Wehrmacht" is as much of a myth as "everyone in the German army was a Nazi". The truth lies somewhere in the middle. There were large differences inside of the Wehrmacht, many were true Nazis, whether through approving of Hitler or being brainwashed youth, some were forced into service at gunpoint (or worse). The biggest group was probably the ordinary conscripts, who, swayed by propaganda and lack of other views truly believed they were defending their homeland from outside aggression, not much different from the citizens of other countries (except that their country was, in fact, the aggressor and unspeakably cruel, but people have the uncanny ability to twist a lot of terrible things into thinking theyre doing good.).
American historian here, but the “Wehrmacht” or regular German army were made up of regular German people, not necessarily loyal to the Nazi party. It was also made up of Polish, Czechoslovakian, Austrians and Serbians amongst others that were forcefully conscripted. The forceful conscription only became worst as Nazi Germany became more desperate. The Wehrmacht and the SS are VERY different. The SS were the direct military of the Nazi party itself. They ran the death camps and were fanatical to Hitler and his ideology to the end. They even fought limited guerrilla campaigns against the allied forces by Hitler’s orders after he took the bitch-way out.
It's always a delicate topic to show WWII from the other side. It is important but I 100% agree it feels like a yucky feeling. Or to put it in Joakim Broden's words "Were they the victims of the time Or proud parts of larger goals?" BTW: I don't know why it annoys me so much but changing the nazi salute to a normal one or hiding swastica from the flag when noticed (at least for me) breaks immersion in the story. I know it's nitpicking and it's probably the result of countless hours of meetings to create a compromise between the developer and publisher. Am I alone in this or is anyone else with me? At least they kept it in german.
@@B-Que-Walker ok, but why this flag would be used during WWII? Personally, I would prefer if they just cut the flags or salute out instead of replacing the with a more "friendly" version
@@pietka33 Oh, the Imperial German flag wasn't used by Germany during WWII at all, as far as I am aware at least. I'm right with you in that I think if are going to make a product about WWII, you should just use the real flag. Frankly, if someone gets upset over seeing a Nazi flag in a piece of media set in Nazi Germany, then they should probably do a bit of growing up. Oh and as for the famous Nazi salute, just as an interesting bit of trivia, that very same salute used to be used for the Pledge of Allegience in American schools before WWII. During the war, of course, it was replace with a salute of putting your right hand over your heart.
The tiger crew really showes the four different personalities. Muller having seen it all tries to stay calm and collected as the crew commander. Kertz has also seen it all and is done with it. Hartman has cracked mentally because of the war and Shroder who was brainwashed by the Nazis
The best cinematic trailers I’ve seen come from Gaijins War Thunder. My personal favorite was the Danger Zone teaser for the update in collab for the (at the time) new film Top Gun Maverick.
I need to play Battlefield 5 one of these days. When you are n a Warcraft mood lots of new Cinematics and Cutsences for the new exppack: Dragonflight. Playlist of all of them in order. th-cam.com/play/PLvNVWs7Ou-9vm459h2cbTHEg2c-yGl9sz.html
15:00 this scene always gets to me. Their undefeatable Germany in ruins. Almost all German soldiers followed their orders blindly. Now seeing it all come apart while they fought over nothing. Makes me sad.
this, and the opening mission, where it switches between perspectives, are some of the best. there was a pretty interesting one where you play as a member of the British Special Boat Service, too, that was neat, but, I think the opening, and closing, are both pretty interesting
As Hannah Arendt wrote: "Evil is banal". The Wehrmacht were soldiers, yes, but many of them were aware of what was happening. They still followed their orders, because they lived in a society that values that. It does not mean they were innocent, but it does not mean that they weren't Human. They committed evil, and lived with evil. They did not stop it, and they did not do enough to resist it as a whole. They are still Human, as were the millions that they killed in the Fatherland's effort to commit atrocity.
well if you are interested in stories from the german perspective watch either "Das Boot", "Downfall" or the new "All quiet on the Western front". All excellent movies made by Germans about the German side of the WW 1 and WW 2. Since being on the loosing side we cannot or basically are not allowed to make movies which are overly patriotic, so we mastered the art of making captivating stories about the people in those struggles.....
It's too bad many of those soldiers came to the "what have we done" conclusion only AFTER they got pushed to the defensive and the defeat became almost certain. They didn't think about it when they were winning, killing millions and occupying their homelands.
only problem with battlefiled 5 is they changed things that really happend from guys doing it to a mother and dauther doing it did not like that its the one with the heavy water there is documentory abouth it they interviewd the guys that where still alive
you always told at the wrong side.why you are thinking the right side was the allie?can you give me informations?today the americans begann 13 wars after ww2 and thats the right side?
I just want to say, it's probably been echoed in the comments a lot. But I think a lot of people need to realize that "German", "Nazi" etc, it's not just that black and white. In history in general there's so much grey, exceptionally so when compared to WWII there's so many moving parts and lenses, and sides to it it's just not a clean subject. If you wanted to learn more, and not even suggesting you react to them, but one of the best ways to learn about this is Sabaton and their History Channel. I would recommend listening to the songs "Wehrmacht" "Hearts of Iron" and "Last Battle"
The whole thing about Muller in this story is about the german perspective of the non-SS troops of the WW2 germany. Many of these german "ww1 heroes" were drafted to lead panzer crews in ww2, even though they didnt believe in the Hitlers cause. As his father said "maybe you didnt steal along with the rest of the kids.. but you were there." Which is a reference to the countless of german soldiers not exactly believing in the "aryan superiority" and the whole jewish being the mean cause of everything going wrong in germany. It literally means this last tigers commander's father said that neutrality is still taking sides, which in truth, is just like that. Its the same as if you dont vote, you will always give a vote to the political party that is against your point of view. The boy in the story is one of those brainwashed kids of german citizens that believed 100% in the hitlers ideals of no surrender and that opposing hitlers meant that you were against him.
12:10 I wouldnt say exactly like that. Being a nazi and being a soldier in the Wehrmacht (german army) are two different things. Possibly you could be a member of the nazi party and be in the army, but the Wehrmacht was the army of Germany. Just as any other country's army. Most of them possibly wasnt nazis, or didnt even truly wanted to be a soldier, only just got drafted. I think many people does not notice that. On the other hand, the SS was like the "private army" of the party, if I know correctly (please correct me if I am wrong somewhere), and they were truly nacional socialists. They did mostly the evil things, while the "normal" army fought the most of battles. Personally, I dont really think Peter and Kertz were not the big fans of the party and their ideology. As we saw, both Kertz and Hartmann were exhausted mentally by the war, while Schröder was heavily influenced by the ideology, not tolerating anything which didnt seem to be for the good of the nation and the leaders. Peter tried to keep up the morale on the surface, but I think he also knew that the end was coming. Moreover, I think when he told the story at the beginning, when he said "And I was there" meant that while he was fighting for Germany, he was not a manipulated political slave, but a soldier who fought for his country with other brainwashed nazis. He wasnt a nazi, but he was a german, and that was his "sin" in the eye of their enemies.
An observation - sometimes, understanding the other persons point of view might give you an insight. If at the same time that person has a specific agenda that they want to achieve at any cost. No amount of understanding from you as an individual will change their singular view of what they wish to achieve. Major examples of this are, but not limited to the following: WWI, WWII and the current situation in Ukraine. Many lives are needlessly lost to gain what??????????
Ok. I need to say it... NO the Tiger was not as strong as they present it in game... It's gun was more powerful than the average allied gun throughout the war but its armor wasn't that strong. By 1944, the allies had guns that could reliably penetrate the Tiger from the front (where its armor is the thickest). What made it strong was the good positioning of the tank by the crew and the distance. They could destroy allied tanks from further away than the allied could manage. But it had many flaws and its legendary status made people overly exagerate their prowess
BFV is very different. Much less realism. The skin system makes all players look inaccurate and almost cartoony. Otherwise the gameplay is better: better moving, weapon system and others.
If you're trying to have realistic experience and indulge the history of ww2, this most certainly isn't the best game for that, but if you wanna have a total blast, this is the perfect game.
The thing is when you said "when you play on the wrong side of history", for all germans, it was the rights side... and not because they wanted to fight, but because they had to... I am from germany and my Grandfather fought in WW2, and he told me that only when the War ended, they saw what they had done, because in War, the government said that is was the right thing and that the Allies only wanted to steal their land (complete bullshit)... But I think that you can only 100% blame the government... the soldiers just did what they got told, because if they didnt do it, they would get punished
An interesting bit is that each character we focus on is killed by their fellow countrymen, not the “enemy.” Even though the perspective was german, it did not glorify anything done by Germany, and certainly not at this point in the war. Countless Germans were killed by their fellow countrymen just for seeing the writing on the wall. A disgusting waste of human life over pride and vanity
They are slightly exaggerating how potent the Tiger was. Don't get me wrong, it was in fact a very powerful tank and it was well-designed for the most part, but the Wehrmacht arguably didn't have much use for that kind of tank. Sure, in a sort of duel it would probably beat the majority of allied tank designs, but the issue was, that was not the kind of encounter you'd be seeing in the war and ultimately, the ressources would probably have been better used on fielding more of the smaller, more efficient designs, rather than just a relatively small amount of really big and heavy tanks that still wouldn't survive getting ganged up on by two or three lighter allied tanks.
It should be thought about, the "wrong side of history" Because despite the aweful things they did, they're still humans too just like us. And it'd be so easy for anyone to have fallen into that sort of evil. Noone is exempt Every major nation has its skeletons in their closet. Learning from history is important as to not make those terrible mistakes again.
And this is why we must never let our children get indoctrinated to any wrongs.. kid knew nothing about life as adults comprehend, the brain wash on him was on another level.
i really like your videos and you seem like a really nice person. however, i can probably guess at what your politics are so please please please do not bring politics into your videos because it might just kill your channel. we're gamers, we don't want politics.
Were those German soldiers in that line up? Yes SS would round up any soldier or civilian who showed any cowardice, willingness to surrender or not fight and hang em. The signs say something like, "I was a coward and would not protect the fatherland"....more or less... And yeah, in the "Last Tiger" missions you were playing as the Commander and his Tank.
It's ok just calling it the other side of history, not like there was really a good or bad side, yes the holocaust was true human evil but not just the germans were capable of evil, every side of the war commited some sort of atrocity against their fellow men
The end of the video is a bit misleading. One of the reasons why Dönitz was waiting with the surrender was that he was trying to transfer as many German divisions to west so they could surrender to Americans.
Some of those claims about the Tiger at the start aren't true. It was a good tank for its time, sure, but its actual combat performance is massively overstated in popular media.
German soldiers couldn’t surrander or retreat by this point, or really at all im the war, or they were executed, even after the war ended they were so scared of being captured by russian forces due to the lable they had been titled.
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There was something a German tanker once said about American tanks:
“One German tank is easily worth ten American tanks! The problem is the Americans always seem to have 11 of them!”
and they could always have another 11 on the way
The Kill ratio in WW2 for the average Tiger tank was 10:1, meaning that a tiger would destroy 10 Sherman’s before it goes down. So this quote checks out.
Too bad the US made 50,000 Sherman’s and the Germans only made alittle over 1000 Tigers
@@cccspwnww2 kill to death ratios are notorious for being exaggerated and faked
@@cccspwn Wasn't it also true that the Tigers would run out of ammo before they ran out of targets?
@@cccspwn Aaaaand I am 4:17 into the video which answered my question, lol -_-
13:44 "I have betrayed Germany." 13:52 "I am a Deserteur." and 13:57 "I have betrayed Germany."
Thank you
My father - 94 years old today - has seen those signs with his own eyes...
In late winter of 1945 my dad together with a lot of other kids were kept in a school building like prisoners, waiting to be sent to Austria the next days to fight against the Red Army. It was called the "Volkssturm". My dad was 16 at this time.
Luckily he and two other kids were able to sneak out of that building and escaped at night. On their way to a refugee train they passed a small town. The central place of that town was bordered with trees... On every tree there was a man or even a teenager hanging with those signs around their necks...
If my dad and his fellas would have been caught by the SS I wouldn´t be able to write these lines.
The guys who stayed in that school building.... no one of them came back... ever
@@MrTobi1976 bro "Volksstrum" thats crazy wasnt it like a civilian or conscripts unit?
@@MyDude0064 Civilians... teenagers 12-17 years old and old men above 60 years. Equipped with guns from WW1, if they were lucky and of course no battlefield experience... cannon fodder...
@@MrTobi1976 holy smokes that's crazy I was just learning about it a week ago
I really loved this story, seeing a German perspective of WW2. Not a Nazi perspective, a German one. Soldiers fighting for their country and home while the party pushed them to further atrocities, and convinced young naive men to give their lives for a lost cause.
Band of Brothers has an episode like this, where they have a German regiment that's like a mirror to the American 101st Airborne. They had a lot of the same experiences and faced the same trials and losses. In war they were enemies, but in another life they might have been good friends.
Finally someone who doesn’t think every German in WW II was a Nazi 😭
that last sentence reminds me of an interview from a WW1 Veteran who tells his story about fighting in the trenches. He said, that after he had killed a french corporal in close combat, he felt sick and was ashamed of himself. He thought that he and this man could have been friends and the only reason they were all going at eachother was the fact they wore different uniforms.
All Quiet on the Western Front is another one, It's World War 1 but again from Germany's perspective. Those poor boys.
Talking about humanising the Wehrmacht; they tended to be seen more like people. My grandad was friends with a couple of former Wehrmacht after the war, after he'd spent half a decade as a Royal Marine.
War is a weird, weird thing
Depends by whom. Take a look at this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cz%C4%99stochowa_massacre
@@lucasrokitowski8707 Same could be said about the Japanese and how people often feel sympathy (and well technically, rightfully so) toward the japanese after the nuclear bombs in Nagasaki and Hiroshima (BOT OFTEN FORGET THE INSANE FIRE BOMBING OF TOKYO) like it's rarely touched... But I derailed; The Japanese were not innocent and I don't even refer to Pearl Harbour, I am talking about what the Japenese did to the Chinese. Nanking... I mean... Here you go en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
The easiest thing to assume is that all Germans were die hard Nazi fanatic's, however a majority of the German army where just regular men fighting a war for their country. Not saying the German army didn't commit some gruesome and terrible things during the war. However when you dive deep into World War II history, especially from the perspective of the other side, and ignore all the common consensus that you've heard, their is a lot that makes them more human than monsters.
As the war ended many German soldiers lost faith and hope in their leadership, the propaganda couldn't hide the destruction and death as they fought in their own nation and cities against the Allied tide. They witnessed children being given guns and told to fight next to the soldiers, often just to delay an enemy advance so the army could retreat, a majority of the time being a suicide order to buy time for more defenses to be built else where.
The Voldsstrum isn't depicted in the game, but they are civilians conscripted to fight. They are given a weapon, little training to use it, an told to defend Germany to the death. Any who refused to fight were declared traitors and hung for treason, serving as an example to others who refused to fight. The signs were usually common on their bodies, To sum up the signs on the hanging soldiers, "I'm a traitor to Germany," I have deserted Germany", I refused to fight for Germany."
It's so easy to depict German soldiers as evil men, murdering and destroying everything in their path, it's easier to kill a faceless monster then another human with a face.
The best war story of the game, that piano theme is so good... I'm a bit fan of WW2 history and playing this chapter knowing that the german forces were in the last stand fighting alongside the volkssturm which were conscripts civilians, vets of ww1, and the Hitler youth surrounded with bits of ammo, no food or medical supplies... was heartbreaking, if you want an excellent depiction of how were the last moments of Germany I suggest you watch the movie downfall, great reaction as always. Love from Ecuador.
Thanks for watching and commenting! And for the movie suggestion.
Oh is that where the Angry hitler meme comes from?
@@Betito1171 Yes, that movie, also another movie suggestion Stalingrad (1993)
@@Betito1171 Yup
@@matsudoambition2509 Tue true
I once watched a streamer play this campaign and he was like "man it feels weird shooting at US Soldiers", now you can understand how I/we felt when shooting at "the Bad Germans" for all those years. Yeah not everyone was innocent back in those times but what I remember from what my grandfather and Great-Grandfather told me, Some of those Soldiers were just trying to defend their families and their Home. I'm by no means justifying what they did but they were just Humans.
At the end of the Day we are all just Humans and we need to learn from our past generations and not repeat their mistakes.
Sorry for the small rant haha. I enjoy watching your reactions
If I have to recommend a movie, it's called "Land of Mine" it takes place after war in Denmark. Germany placed a lot of Mines on Danish shores and german pow were send there to disarm them after the war. Most of them were child soldiers. It's really heartbreaking to watch
Greetings from Germany
What a lot of people don't understand is that plenty of German soldiers were not Nazis, some just thought they were defending their country, and a lot were forced to go to war. All SS were Nazis but not all Germans soldiers were SS nor Nazis.
@@bastiwen my great grandfather was forced from his home and was sent to fight on the eastern front. That’s why it grinds my gears when someone claims that all axis soldiers were monsters. I’d claim that most we’re fighting for themselves or their families rather than for their evil leaders.
@@bastiwen I think the majority of the German soldiers weren't Nazis, tbh. I don't think most of the German people during that time were Nazis either. the Nazis just sold a good story, good enough for the population to get behind. Not saying it was right, but. 🤷🏾♂
@@ShawnTheDriver as a historian once said, the first country the nazis invaded was their own. And when Germany was liberated the german civilians treated the allies like they were liberators, saviors saving them from the clutch of the nazis. And that alone shows that the civilians didn’t always entirely support it all.
@@bastiwen In the end, the spinelessness and opputunism of the conservatives led to the disaster. The Nazis were "only" elected by 30% of the population. If the Conservatives hadn't passed a government with them, this filthy party would never have come to power.
A little detail at 21:34, the sound is that of the American M3 grease gun and not the MP40 that the kid is using, implying that either the kid was shot before executing the commander or the commander was shot by one of the soldiers
The US soldiers killed the kid most likely. They wouldn't shoot someone who surrendered
commander is narrating the story so...
@@Franfran2424 probably waiting for Nuremberg trials
It doesn't explicitly says he was SS. @@mmxxiii9503
@@mmxxiii9503why would a tank commander be on trial? Not like he’s a high ranking party official or master war criminal
Call of Duty World At War is another amazing game with a very brutal depiction of World War 2, music alone is terrifying it's one of the few games to really show the horrors of war something every Call of Duty after has failed to come close. World of War also carried over into Black Ops which is set in the Cold War and does a good job as well just showing a different era of war going for a more action film feel. The Battlefield stories are great much more hopeful and inspiring while World of War is very much about showing you the negatives of war and that there's never a true winner which is brought back up in Black Ops 1.
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To this day, my favorite CoD game!
A reaction to the Russian campaign of world at war would be very interesting!
I distinctly remember the first time I flamethrowered someone in World at War, truly something else 😶
The game is called call of duty world at war not world of war
the fact its a rare instance a game allows you to play as the opposing faction in a war that makes this such a great mission. We're all used to playing the good guys and winning the day, but never think about being in the shoes of those soldiers fighting for what they thought was right, being scared and seeing their word crumble around them. There are some terrible people in history, but most of the enemy, were just people.
I think this is the first time.... in years
I have literally cried after this mission. Its so intense
I can only imagine.
At the end of the day, "Life is...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
Harsh, I like it.
In a world without God maybe
"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more."
The signs:
13:40. Ich habe deutschland verraten
"I have betrayed Germany"
13:50 Ich bin ein deserteur
"I am a deserter"
14:48 deserteur (i think)
"Deserter"
The punishment for being captured by your fellows was death by hanging and public shaming. The public shaming was an attempt to discourage new desertions and a way to tell the others "look at my selfishness, instead of protecting you/fighting at your side i preferred to run like a coward"
The amounts of desertions between the soldiers of the wehrmacht greatly increased during the last months of war, because they knew it was over.
Despite all i still feel sorry for them, the human instinct is to flee from the danger, not holding a position and shooting back, especially when you know to be fighting an already lost battle, it felt like losing their lives over nothing.
7:11 The stripes painted on the cannon's barrel are basically a mark of the number of kills they have made against the enemy. There's a lot of stripes on that barrel.
holy shit i played this since the end of 2018 and never noticed
I was Canadian Army and served in a combat unit for 6 years and I swore that I would carry the philosophy of “I will kill my enemy, but I will not hate them.”…end of the day they were brave enough to fight just like me, and maybe in another life we could have been friends. Also, those signs on the hanged men say something along the lines of “I am a deserter.”
Thanks for watching, and for sharing 🙏🏼♥️
This reminds me of Wolf Kahler's speech in Band of Brothers (He plays the German general in ep. 10). It reminds the viewers that the German soldiers was doing a job for their country, the same as the Allied soldiers were.
amazing speech, great show
Fun historical facts Hannah:
most people part of the Wehrmacht (the regular german armed forces at that time) did not support nazi ideology. they had to obey or they would get shot, or worse. heck they banned anyone in the regular army from joining the nazi party.
The SS are the ones who were essentially volunteers, full blown nazi, and a private army of Hitler, not a national one like the Wehrmacht.
Even some german high commanders expressed displeasure at nazi ideology and corruption, such as General Rommel.
Both sides willingly targeted civilian infrastructure and civilians themselves
the allies and soviets did not know about concentration camps until 1944 and 1945 respectively. (5-6 years into the war)
Luftwaffe (german air force) aces were often honourable, meaning that they wouldnt shoot pilots and crews who ditched out of a shot down aircraft in parachutes.
The luftwaffe also prohibited their members from joining the nazi party, tho the luftwaffe is more closely related to the party than their navy or army due to their founding members all being part of the party, however, most were just young men who were drafted and wanted to fly, and didnt care much for the party.
Yes the terribel propaganda of the Nazis was one of the worse things on the third rich.
This make us problems until today.
An example:
My grandpa was a pilot at the offensive of the ardennen. He never tell much about it.
Only this story: He should bombard a farm and was so nervous or brave, that he dropped the bomb too early. His chief told him, that he from now on, had to fly first in line. And if he dropp the bomb too early again, the squadron will fire on him.
And so the next bomb hit the target.
He hate the Nazis after the war.
But I told you this, because our old neighbour.
He was in the "Hitlerjugend" like my grandpa, but to young to go to war. And he was until the end the opinion, that under the Nazis was the things good. This man has lived 75 Years. The most of it in our democracy, but the indoctrinated still worked.
The Tiger was pretty infamous among the allies.
British tanks capable of taking one on were much slower, while tanks fast and agile enough to engage them lacked sufficient firepower or durability.
Same with the German battleship Bismarck; anything that could catch her couldn't sink her, and anything that could sink her couldn't catch her.
The Bismarck should be referred to as a male, not a female. Germans named their ships and vehicles with men's names, as opposed to most western nations who use female names instead.
@@B-Que-Walker
Au contraire; the Kriegsmarine referred to their ships as males. Allied High Command referred to the German's fleet with female pronouns.
@@B-Que-Walker
The first transmission from Ark Royal following the torpedo attack was that "we have confirmed hits to *HER* rudder."
I don't really care how the Nazí's would have preferred me to describe her 😁
Nerds 🤣❤️
@@HannaHsOverInvested
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I mean, yeah, totally valid, but still.
Video games can tell powerful stories.
As I have learned well over the past couple years
So the Tank Commander isn't a Nazi, he's just a soldier in the army. he doesn't agree with the ideology however doesn't speak out against it either but he does over the course of this 3-4 hour story, he also does not see the point in killing people like they were doing in this level IE hanging fathers, old people and troops for "deserting" simply because they are incapable of fighting or suffering from some health issue (PTSD etc).
The tank driver is not a Nazi either but does speak out against it from time to time and also hates seeing young soldiers dieing for no good reason (he along with the commander are old friends who have served together for many years, the other 2 are new crew).
The gunner is a nazi who was part of the Hitler Youth which is why he is fanatical about Germany being superior and only cares about winning.
this ^
I don't know how I feel about this. It's kind of getting into the weeds a bit. I would have to give it more thought to fully articulate an answer, but I think arguing about who is and is not a Nazi in the German army in world war 2 is semantics. They still did what they did. Idk if it makes sense but to me, doing the thing makes you part of the thing.
I'm not explaining my thoughts well.
@@HannaHsOverInvested No, that's absolutely legit. As the commander himself said 'I was there'.
He and the driver may not have been true believers, but they were still complicit.
@@HannaHsOverInvested It's shown during the actual missions you play along with a lot more dialogue, cutscenes only show you part of the story :\
I do get what you mean though, like that skit "Are we the baddies?" by Mitchell and Webb
@@HannaHsOverInvested i do think there can be a divide between "German soldiers" and Nazi, case in point, the battle of Castle Itter, were a division of German army troops, and a single SS officer, teamed up with the Americans to protect a number of French POW, including the former Prime Minister of France, from a force of more fanatical SS troops. it's a fascinating story, and, one I hope gets told more, to bring it more into public perspective. there was supposed to be a movie in the works about it, but, then Covid happened.
Glad I'm not the only one who suggests miserable, downer videos.
You could watch Ori again to cheer yourself up?
LOL
Ohh the white subtitles. That was a big complaint when the game first launched. There's a mission in Norway, where your character is speaking Norwegian the whole time and the subtitles are solid white, in a snow setting. Honestly
who can determine who is on the wrong side of history as the victors write history. But yeah battlefield is very good at making heartfelt campaigns that you care for, and honestly the last tiger is the best one they made in battlefield 5 as you are not fighting to win, you are defending your land and protecting those behind you. Sadly most germans be it soldiers or civilians had no clue what happend with the jews and less desirables... Most were utterly shocked.
12:08
loved the reaction, but I wanted to point something out because its so common.
Not all german soldiers were Nazi's, some were just soldiers. The Nazi's ruled Germany at the time, but they didnt exclusively draft people with the same "political" or moral beliefs.
I played this Story myself, and its amazing in my opinion. For me as a German it was also kinda line playing as the former „us“ and it really showed that were all just people. Some do good and some do bad, unfortunately.
When she said "thank you lexi" I pointed at the screen and said "I gotchu" anyway thanks for taking my request, I do highly recommend you play the last of us very early on in your gaming journey, you will not regret it I promise ! , I might give some more recommendations in the future so watch out for my name ! Lol love you and good luck with your gaming journey, I promise very powerful and heart warming stories await you ❤️
this is probably the best mission from BFV. super emotional
I remember having family members tell me the story of Battle of Berlin because they served or they were civilians trying not to get hurt by either side had a family member told me that he was Manning a machine gun in one of the churches in Berlin but he ran out of ammunition and he looked around and saw all his friends and comrades Brothers in arms was killed either by grenades but bullets or shell shock got to them first I cried uncontrollably when i finished this mission because it helped me put in perspective what my family went through that same relative that fought in Berlin said to me that when the American soldiers came up to his position he just walked out from behind the sandbags crying he had the dog tags of his friends he said the American soldiers looked at them with chocolate understanding damn it I'm crying again
The last quote about fighting until the bitter end even if it sets the world ablaze is something a lot of nations say in war. When Britain wanted to capitulate, but ultimately didn't, we see them as heroes for not surrendering. But when German soldiers did the same, we see them as barbaric and evil because they would rather die than surrender. It is interesting to me that they are essentially the same thing. Being patriotic to your country until the bitter end. The truth is that a soldier just does what he is told, and no matter the nation they are all brainwashed to believe they are in the right...
Hugh I've never played this, different from a German perspective, but I completely agree that we shouldn't wipe out what people have done in history! We all need to learn and overcome our mistakes as a species as a whole.......All history is human history!
I like your reactions man, some brains in that pretty little head of yours! 😉👍🏻
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
history shall never be forgotten. Unfortunately people dont learn from it but repeats it
@@Juhani96 It's a sad thing, that happens in our time, right now and for the last few years. Where people change history books, to fit their narrative. They change history and with that they are doomed to repeat it.
I do not like the qoran, or the bible or tora, but I would never burn a copy of it. Someone once said "First, they burn the books, but people quickly follow." Yes, these books can be dangerous in the wrong hands, but to burn ideas is even more dangerous. Who decides what is allowed and what not? I fear what will happen to us in the next few years, when radicals grow stronger everywhere. We are running at full speed into the next great apocalypse. Because we destroy our own lands and people.
Clima changes, wars are waged, trade routs are in danger and with it famine spreads, refugees grow in numbers as people flee their homes in hope of a new live and more wars will follow. This describes the bronze age collaps, or is it our time?
the line "but i was there' is a direct quote from Franz Stangl's final interview - he died of heart failure 19 hours later.
For those who dont know, Stangl was the first commandant of the Sobibor death camp. Despite gaining a fearsome reputation there (and the nickname "the white death") it appears that Stangl was not an ardent mass murderer; he quickly began drinking heavily and the killings at Sobibor fell very far behind the nazi's schedule, leading to Stangl being removed in a matter of months after building the camp.
At the end of the war Stangl fled to south america but never tried to hide and he was eventually captured and sentenced to prison in 1967. As the last of the death camp commanders a journalist named Gita Sereny inteviewed him a number of times in prison.
Sereny was especially interested in whether Stangl had any remorse, because Stangl had consistently maintained that he was just following orders. Then, in his final, tense, interview, Stangl said "i was there.... that is my guilt. I was there". Sereny's account of the interview is extraordinary. Having appeared to have finally recognised his guilt aloud, Stangl died 19 hours later.
There is actually a tiger tank still in somewhat working condition. If you look up “tiger 131” on TH-cam you can see it.
A fault of history taught to young students is simplifying history too much. It's easier to imply that "Nåzi Germany" means that every German was a member of the party and that every party member was a German, both of which are false. Hardliners weren't the demons as is often portrayed but more pathetic ideologues that thought that making things worse for everyone would make things better for some. Outside of those, many can be swept up in a building wave to do things they would have thought impossible before and things that they didn't think they would ever do before. All for something they believe to be good, but what can be a nightmare.
The signs on the hanged, Mostly consist of it saying "I am a coward and refuse to fight for Germany " Or " I am a coward" SS officers acted as judge, hurry and executioner. Didn't matter how old. If you caught, you could be sure you be made an example of
And if you think the west theater was bad, then the Eastern front is hell. The Soviets went on a revenge mission, German soldiers and civilians would try to kill themselves if they got the chance, As Soviets would either beat or line them up and have them shot. In Berlin it was horrible, Especially if you were a civilian that didn't flee in time. Worst if you were a woman..
Your point about people learning they're on the wrong side of history,
Think about this, some Germans had previously fought through ww1 and were called up again to fight, and then when Germany surrendered they had to treat the allies as neutral parties again.
I can't imagine fighting an enemy for so long, enemies responsible for possibly killing your friends in the army, and going back to normality.
I'm not excusing them for their acts, but we weren't guilt free either, war is hell.
I played The Last Tiger for the first time between a month or two ago and it hurt seeing unconditional loyalty clashing with humanity like that.
As "popular history" paints the German military during WWII there were good people fighting both for and against the German army. Now there is no excuse for the Holocaust, but that was primarily handled by SS Officers and the genocide wasn't broadcasted to the German army. On top of consripting people, the German army was also partly captured troops who got the choice of fighting for Germany or death. I abhor the acts comitted by the nazis, but when it came to many of the main line German troops, a lot of them were just soldiers in a war no different than the Americans, Canadians, or British. People all know about the Holocaust, but it seems few know of "The Rape of Nanking" and the horrendous warcrimes comitted by the Japanese to the Chinese. And the Allies have their fair share of warcrimes under their belts aswell, nobody has clean hands regardless of where you stand. And again I would REALLY like to preface that I'm very much against the things done by the Germans, but most Germans didn't find out about the "work camps" until after the war ended. To convey what I mean I suggest reading about "Karl Plagge" the German Officer who saved hundreds of Jews during the Holocaust.
While it follows the Clean Wehrmacht Myth (wehrmacht was good and innocent, the SS were the real baddies), it’s still a good perspective for a game to present.
(It also follows the “German technological superiority myth”, which is cool in a storytelling perspective but also flat out untrue.
Why couldn't the Last Tiger be a WW2 movie instead of a game? It'd be such a perfect tank battle movie.
This was easily my favorite war story, in fact I was so pissed at Schröder, and sad for Kertz, that I literally cried my first play through. And I rarely cry. The piano theme didn't help. This game has some incredible music.
From what people could gather, the boy, Schröder, that was about to shoot Peter, had been shot by an American before he could get his gun properly aimed at Peter.
This is because the gun sound we hear at the end is not from the boy’s MP40. But an M3 Grease Gun
After some consideration, I think the GIs shot the boy, now that his gun was turned away. The reason being the two shots fired sounded like two separate guns (M1 Garand), fired in close succession unlike the MP-40(?) which has a slower cadence.
Also at the beginning, the commander narrates his story, alluding that he survived
Maybe you should watch "The fallen of world war II" good video
If allied soldiers saw their countries today they would have defected
I've been catching up on your backlog of Non-Gamer watches, and it's been a lot of fun to see these trailers again, through your eyes. I'd like to suggest one of the best trailers ever created for a game, which is Warhammer's Mark of Chaos: th-cam.com/video/dNFGJQIW5ZM/w-d-xo.html. it goes from zero to sixty real fast.
React to “How Zyzz became a legend” it’s actually a pretty inspiring yet tragic story and I wanna know what you think about a guy who’s basically considered a god in the fitness community.
Check out Through Mud and Blood, it's another great warstory!
Okay cool! Thanks!
12:12 Germans soldiers, not Nazls
Thank you for making that distinction. Many people don't know the difference between Wehrmacht soldiers and Jew-killing pigs. I don't blame her though as it's more of a failure of the education system and rumors. Even allied soldiers from ww2 had a hard time distinguishing between the two.
@5:41 My view is that learning is a life long endeavor, and that re-examining our own beliefs critically from time to time is healthy practice. But it can be challenging to do, especially if someone has internalized an opinion as part of identity or culture. And if you one day come to a new conclusion that is in conflict with your peers and community do you risk becoming ostracized for sharing that new view? ...I guess all I'm really saying is that regardless of what views people have I wish more people would reflect upon them.
Peter survived most likely since he is narrating his story and that the sound of the gun when it cut to the black screen was the M3A1 Grease Gun that some of US soldiers were using not the MP-40 implying that the US soldiers killed the kid.
YES!!! Finally Hannah reacted to this!!! When I first played through this mission I was very sceptical, and surprised how a AAA company was going to handle this. It may not bode well regarding PR, and all also you play as literal Nazis, I thought they may have cheapened the take on the baddies side, boy was I in for a heart wrenching shocker. The End scene when TC Peter gets shot by the younger tankman was extremely sad. The Runner mission in Battlefield 1 and now this ... I have to say those are in my top 10 gaming missions, or atleast gaming cutscenes.
To add on when playing it felt weird and wrong to shoot and destroy allied troops and tanks... I got over it towards the cathedral mission, but hearing americans say "Just give up already" or smth etc when you are fighting them, idk, I have played too many WW2 games on the allied side I guess.
EDIT: Due to misinterpretation of shorthand refer to comments.
Actually you didn’t play as Nazis. The crews were often from the Wehrmacht and only the tank commanders could come from from the Waffen SS but not always. So not Nazis, just Nazi and that’s only if the tank commander we sometimes play as is actually from the Waffen SS. Idk why everyone thinks every German soldier in WWII was a nazi
@@naturalbadger5258 Yes and no obviously everyone wasnt a card carrying Nazi, however I do believe the "Clean Wermacht" narrative doesnt hold they too did commit heinous warcrimes although not as often and as gruesome as the SS Divisions . I am aware the diffrerent branches did come into conflict with each other, but more over pride, war planning and allocation of resources than on anti-nazi sentiment/unnecessary violence.
TLDR No I dont bellieve they were all nazis, I was just using shorthand.
@@naturalbadger5258 The "clean Wehrmacht" is as much of a myth as "everyone in the German army was a Nazi". The truth lies somewhere in the middle. There were large differences inside of the Wehrmacht, many were true Nazis, whether through approving of Hitler or being brainwashed youth, some were forced into service at gunpoint (or worse). The biggest group was probably the ordinary conscripts, who, swayed by propaganda and lack of other views truly believed they were defending their homeland from outside aggression, not much different from the citizens of other countries (except that their country was, in fact, the aggressor and unspeakably cruel, but people have the uncanny ability to twist a lot of terrible things into thinking theyre doing good.).
American historian here, but the “Wehrmacht” or regular German army were made up of regular German people, not necessarily loyal to the Nazi party. It was also made up of Polish, Czechoslovakian, Austrians and Serbians amongst others that were forcefully conscripted. The forceful conscription only became worst as Nazi Germany became more desperate. The Wehrmacht and the SS are VERY different. The SS were the direct military of the Nazi party itself. They ran the death camps and were fanatical to Hitler and his ideology to the end. They even fought limited guerrilla campaigns against the allied forces by Hitler’s orders after he took the bitch-way out.
@Baaasg you’re right, it was redundant.
Wait, I thought they was SA soldier after the long night purge all along
It's always a delicate topic to show WWII from the other side. It is important but I 100% agree it feels like a yucky feeling. Or to put it in Joakim Broden's words "Were they the victims of the time
Or proud parts of larger goals?"
BTW: I don't know why it annoys me so much but changing the nazi salute to a normal one or hiding swastica from the flag when noticed (at least for me) breaks immersion in the story. I know it's nitpicking and it's probably the result of countless hours of meetings to create a compromise between the developer and publisher. Am I alone in this or is anyone else with me? At least they kept it in german.
I did notice those changes and thought it was interesting.
The flag they use for Germany in this game is the flag of the old German Empire.
@@B-Que-Walker ok, but why this flag would be used during WWII? Personally, I would prefer if they just cut the flags or salute out instead of replacing the with a more "friendly" version
@@pietka33 Oh, the Imperial German flag wasn't used by Germany during WWII at all, as far as I am aware at least. I'm right with you in that I think if are going to make a product about WWII, you should just use the real flag.
Frankly, if someone gets upset over seeing a Nazi flag in a piece of media set in Nazi Germany, then they should probably do a bit of growing up.
Oh and as for the famous Nazi salute, just as an interesting bit of trivia, that very same salute used to be used for the Pledge of Allegience in American schools before WWII. During the war, of course, it was replace with a salute of putting your right hand over your heart.
The tiger crew really showes the four different personalities. Muller having seen it all tries to stay calm and collected as the crew commander. Kertz has also seen it all and is done with it. Hartman has cracked mentally because of the war and Shroder who was brainwashed by the Nazis
There's a three-part series called generation war. It's almost like a German band of brothers it's an awesome show.
The best cinematic trailers I’ve seen come from Gaijins War Thunder. My personal favorite was the Danger Zone teaser for the update in collab for the (at the time) new film Top Gun Maverick.
Still reminds me of the Principality of Zeon in Gundam the origin and the post war decades since UC0079.
I need to play Battlefield 5 one of these days.
When you are n a Warcraft mood lots of new Cinematics and Cutsences for the new exppack: Dragonflight.
Playlist of all of them in order.
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Thank you so much! I love a good list!
15:00 this scene always gets to me. Their undefeatable Germany in ruins. Almost all German soldiers followed their orders blindly. Now seeing it all come apart while they fought over nothing. Makes me sad.
I was not ready for that ending!!
You should watch Battlefield 5 tirailleur walkthrough. Great story!
you went strait to the good sad one huh.
I did a different sad one first 🤣
this, and the opening mission, where it switches between perspectives, are some of the best. there was a pretty interesting one where you play as a member of the British Special Boat Service, too, that was neat, but, I think the opening, and closing, are both pretty interesting
Schröder: *Shoots Kertz*
Me: So you’ve chosen a death worse than I can imagine.
As Hannah Arendt wrote: "Evil is banal".
The Wehrmacht were soldiers, yes, but many of them were aware of what was happening. They still followed their orders, because they lived in a society that values that. It does not mean they were innocent, but it does not mean that they weren't Human. They committed evil, and lived with evil. They did not stop it, and they did not do enough to resist it as a whole.
They are still Human, as were the millions that they killed in the Fatherland's effort to commit atrocity.
well if you are interested in stories from the german perspective watch either "Das Boot", "Downfall" or the new "All quiet on the Western front". All excellent movies made by Germans about the German side of the WW 1 and WW 2. Since being on the loosing side we cannot or basically are not allowed to make movies which are overly patriotic, so we mastered the art of making captivating stories about the people in those struggles.....
It's too bad many of those soldiers came to the "what have we done" conclusion only AFTER they got pushed to the defensive and the defeat became almost certain. They didn't think about it when they were winning, killing millions and occupying their homelands.
only problem with battlefiled 5 is they changed things that really happend from guys doing it to a mother and dauther doing it did not like that its the one with the heavy water there is documentory abouth it they interviewd the guys that where still alive
Yay for the Emotional Support Blanket
I need it!
@@HannaHsOverInvested yeah it had a lot of work to this with this video.
you always told at the wrong side.why you are thinking the right side was the allie?can you give me informations?today the americans begann 13 wars after ww2 and thats the right side?
I just want to say, it's probably been echoed in the comments a lot. But I think a lot of people need to realize that "German", "Nazi" etc, it's not just that black and white. In history in general there's so much grey, exceptionally so when compared to WWII there's so many moving parts and lenses, and sides to it it's just not a clean subject.
If you wanted to learn more, and not even suggesting you react to them, but one of the best ways to learn about this is Sabaton and their History Channel. I would recommend listening to the songs "Wehrmacht" "Hearts of Iron" and "Last Battle"
The whole thing about Muller in this story is about the german perspective of the non-SS troops of the WW2 germany. Many of these german "ww1 heroes" were drafted to lead panzer crews in ww2, even though they didnt believe in the Hitlers cause. As his father said "maybe you didnt steal along with the rest of the kids.. but you were there." Which is a reference to the countless of german soldiers not exactly believing in the "aryan superiority" and the whole jewish being the mean cause of everything going wrong in germany. It literally means this last tigers commander's father said that neutrality is still taking sides, which in truth, is just like that. Its the same as if you dont vote, you will always give a vote to the political party that is against your point of view. The boy in the story is one of those brainwashed kids of german citizens that believed 100% in the hitlers ideals of no surrender and that opposing hitlers meant that you were against him.
12:10 I wouldnt say exactly like that. Being a nazi and being a soldier in the Wehrmacht (german army) are two different things. Possibly you could be a member of the nazi party and be in the army, but the Wehrmacht was the army of Germany. Just as any other country's army. Most of them possibly wasnt nazis, or didnt even truly wanted to be a soldier, only just got drafted. I think many people does not notice that.
On the other hand, the SS was like the "private army" of the party, if I know correctly (please correct me if I am wrong somewhere), and they were truly nacional socialists. They did mostly the evil things, while the "normal" army fought the most of battles.
Personally, I dont really think Peter and Kertz were not the big fans of the party and their ideology. As we saw, both Kertz and Hartmann were exhausted mentally by the war, while Schröder was heavily influenced by the ideology, not tolerating anything which didnt seem to be for the good of the nation and the leaders. Peter tried to keep up the morale on the surface, but I think he also knew that the end was coming. Moreover, I think when he told the story at the beginning, when he said "And I was there" meant that while he was fighting for Germany, he was not a manipulated political slave, but a soldier who fought for his country with other brainwashed nazis. He wasnt a nazi, but he was a german, and that was his "sin" in the eye of their enemies.
An observation - sometimes, understanding the other persons point of view might give you an insight. If at the same time that person has a specific agenda that they want to achieve at any cost. No amount of understanding from you as an individual will change their singular view of what they wish to achieve. Major examples of this are, but not limited to the following: WWI, WWII and the current situation in Ukraine. Many lives are needlessly lost to gain what??????????
Ok. I need to say it... NO the Tiger was not as strong as they present it in game... It's gun was more powerful than the average allied gun throughout the war but its armor wasn't that strong. By 1944, the allies had guns that could reliably penetrate the Tiger from the front (where its armor is the thickest).
What made it strong was the good positioning of the tank by the crew and the distance. They could destroy allied tanks from further away than the allied could manage. But it had many flaws and its legendary status made people overly exagerate their prowess
Geez, is this what Battlefield 5 is like? I might have to play that game, loved Battlefield 1
BFV is very different. Much less realism. The skin system makes all players look inaccurate and almost cartoony.
Otherwise the gameplay is better: better moving, weapon system and others.
If you're trying to have realistic experience and indulge the history of ww2, this most certainly isn't the best game for that, but if you wanna have a total blast, this is the perfect game.
The thing is when you said "when you play on the wrong side of history", for all germans, it was the rights side... and not because they wanted to fight, but because they had to...
I am from germany and my Grandfather fought in WW2, and he told me that only when the War ended, they saw what they had done, because in War, the government said that is was the right thing and that the Allies only wanted to steal their land (complete bullshit)...
But I think that you can only 100% blame the government... the soldiers just did what they got told, because if they didnt do it, they would get punished
An interesting bit is that each character we focus on is killed by their fellow countrymen, not the “enemy.” Even though the perspective was german, it did not glorify anything done by Germany, and certainly not at this point in the war. Countless Germans were killed by their fellow countrymen just for seeing the writing on the wall. A disgusting waste of human life over pride and vanity
They are slightly exaggerating how potent the Tiger was. Don't get me wrong, it was in fact a very powerful tank and it was well-designed for the most part, but the Wehrmacht arguably didn't have much use for that kind of tank.
Sure, in a sort of duel it would probably beat the majority of allied tank designs, but the issue was, that was not the kind of encounter you'd be seeing in the war and ultimately, the ressources would probably have been better used on fielding more of the smaller, more efficient designs, rather than just a relatively small amount of really big and heavy tanks that still wouldn't survive getting ganged up on by two or three lighter allied tanks.
It should be thought about, the "wrong side of history"
Because despite the aweful things they did, they're still humans too just like us. And it'd be so easy for anyone to have fallen into that sort of evil. Noone is exempt
Every major nation has its skeletons in their closet.
Learning from history is important as to not make those terrible mistakes again.
And this is why we must never let our children get indoctrinated to any wrongs.. kid knew nothing about life as adults comprehend, the brain wash on him was on another level.
i really like your videos and you seem like a really nice person. however, i can probably guess at what your politics are so please please please do not bring politics into your videos because it might just kill your channel. we're gamers, we don't want politics.
Were those German soldiers in that line up?
Yes
SS would round up any soldier or civilian who showed any cowardice, willingness to surrender or not fight and hang em. The signs say something like, "I was a coward and would not protect the fatherland"....more or less...
And yeah, in the "Last Tiger" missions you were playing as the Commander and his Tank.
Recommendation, acquire a Playstation 5 and a gaming laptop/PC. Then you will have the ability to play pretty much every game there is.
It's ok just calling it the other side of history, not like there was really a good or bad side, yes the holocaust was true human evil but not just the germans were capable of evil, every side of the war commited some sort of atrocity against their fellow men
The end of the video is a bit misleading. One of the reasons why Dönitz was waiting with the surrender was that he was trying to transfer as many German divisions to west so they could surrender to Americans.
Some of those claims about the Tiger at the start aren't true. It was a good tank for its time, sure, but its actual combat performance is massively overstated in popular media.
Sadly there were thousands of "Schröders" back then. Formed through propaganda and pressed into a fight they couldn't win...a lost generation.
Unsere Mutter Unsere Fatter is a good series talking about how the germans view the war. But I tell you now, is pretty rough the series.
The protagonists weren't nazis, they were wehrmacht soldiers, not SS soldiers
My daughter is into vampires I'll buy your book for her for more battlefield reactions
soldiers are just soldiers...90% of wehrmach had no ideology.
German soldiers couldn’t surrander or retreat by this point, or really at all im the war, or they were executed, even after the war ended they were so scared of being captured by russian forces due to the lable they had been titled.
Its funny how the word "men" as humanity as a whole, in some quotes, go under the feminist radar so hard.
I’m the 1,000th like😃 also the last tiger was beautiful
Hearing him screaming Kertz breaks my heart… 😢😢😢
you should watch battlefield V ''Tirailleur''
you should react to the other story battlefield v tirailleur all cutscenes
The side that is less transparent is always at the worse side of history.