Corsair 5000D Airflow vs. Solid Case Review: Thermals, Noise, Build Quality
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- Corsair appears to be listening & improving. Corsair's 5000D Airflow & 5000D non-Airflow cases are in for review, benchmarked vs. the 4000D, Silent Base 802, Lancool 215, and many more.
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The Corsair 5000D has two variants: The 5000D Airflow and 5000D solid panel, and we're benchmarking and reviewing both in this one content piece. This also talks about the differences between the Corsair 4000D and 5000D because, although the names make them look sequential, they're actually intended to both simultaneously exist and target different audiences. The latest of 4000D & 5000D PC cases from Corsair is a reprisal of the old Obsidian line, and Corsair appears to be back on track to improve its overall product quality in the case market. It's been a while since they've had good ones back-to-back, so that's good to see. Recent competitors would include the be quiet! Silent Base 802, the Fractal Meshify 2 & XL, Lian Li Lancool II Mesh, Phanteks P500, and similar.
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Fractal Meshify 2 XL on Amazon: geni.us/pQp4dEm
Find the Fractal Meshify 2 on Amazon (make sure you know the difference between previous models): geni.us/TtvE
Lian Li Lancool 215 on Amazon: geni.us/iIaEuX
Cooler Master TD500 on Amazon: geni.us/IV0lB
be quiet! 500DX on Amazon: geni.us/fIdH46k
Phanteks P400A on Amazon: geni.us/e3bBj
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Corsair 5000D vs. 4000D (Airflow & Solid Panels)
05:34 - Case Build Quality
13:32 - 5000D Thermal and Noise Testing (Solid vs. Airflow)
14:01 - CPU Thermal Benchmarks - 5000D Case Review
15:55 - GPU Thermal Benchmarks
17:32 - Standardized Fan Testing
19:30 - Noise and Noise Normalized Testing
20:22 - Conclusion: Corsair Returns to Form
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When will Steve cover 3d dorrito's
I hope Snowflake is doing well
i want this case so bad i had the 240t then the 4000d airflow that i myself fixed so you could use a push pull on a 360 rad i cut the hole bigger now they removed it and i want it in white @corsair you owe me lol
At 11:39 you show the artic freiza coola in there with no fans, won't fit with fans
Do you have a cat?
"We don't have too many problems with this one." Now that's a glowing recommendation if I ever heard one.
It sounded to me like it's an average case, but they want to put some positive reinforcement on it so that if corsair sees it they'll know they're going in the right direction. A corporate attaboy
@@JayFlowie Hey, they heard, they done it better...
its a good thing, dont act like that... its good..
@@hsasaae8200 I'm in agreement that it's better than it was for sure. But it scored middle of the road or worse the whole way down. Saying it's good is a stretch, saying they're on the right track to become good is fair. I feel like they just don't want to bash it when they listened and still didn't do really well.
Have you seen the results? They are not a "glowing recommendation" by any stretch.
Compare to "It's good. If you wanna buy it, cool." for P500A, 5000D Airflow is more like "Meh, that will do"
P500A video: th-cam.com/video/G835LGHpeoI/w-d-xo.html
Quite the smoldering gaze Steve is giving in the thumbnail there 😘
I'm practicing my Blue Steel for my future Paul's Cologne ad.
@@GamersNexus its actually an underwear ad, be prepared.
@Ziv Zulander I'm convinced Linus has a resting thumbnail face
@@JayFlowie we need manscaped in XL then
@@GamersNexus i can already hear you with your Gheorghe Muresan impression "You wanna smell like me? Call now!"
Looks like Corsair is finally living up to the _air_ part of their name.
But then what does the *Cors* part of their name mean?
Maybe they will purchase a sand blasting company, making them live up to the name "Coarse Air".
You know sand. It's coarse and gets everywhere!
@@patricksha6194
It was never menat to be cros+air, but cro+sair
@@patricksha6194 means rough. As in their designs. This case looks like an AC unit.
Now COOLERmaster needs to get the same Memo.
CORSAIR: This new case comes with two front panels. A solid panel and a "Leave us alone, dammit, Steve" panel.
Steve: "Bout time!
The cutouts on that case remind me of the metal furniture my Grandma had on her porch back in the 80's. Not really a knock against the case, just brought back memories.
That's the kind of vibe I'm getting too, doesn't really fit 2021 if you ask me..
Definitely gives it a polished vintage look.
I have the 5000x and wanted the airflow panels and tried to order them and it was a 3 week process to just get them to ship and they randomly came in and out of stock. I messaged Corsair about it and they sent me both panels for free in a week. Mad props to them and I will continue buying Corsair parts for sure.
did it make a big difference?
It's too bad they don't offer a a la carte option, that way you could order the 5000x with the airflow stuff and still get the upgraded fans and whatnot without the hassle and them sending freebies randomly
Random question, I don't like TG side panels : Do you think it's possible to order the other side panel (the solid one wich has vents) and use it on the left side ? I'm planning to build a no RGB computer. This case is the one I nedd, but I really need to replace the glass panel by a solid one. Thx in advance.
It would be great for the case reviews if you would add a category populating all of the fan mounts in the case. That way we would know how well the case performs in the best case scenario.
Seriously. I appreciate when manufacturers don't include a full compliment of fans. Between radiators, noise, static pressure, CFM and RGB, they aren't likely to choose correctly for my build, so it's just more e-waste.
yes this review is largely worthless
Agreed I was looking on how this case performed and anyone watching this will not stick with just the 2 fans so after watching this i still have no idea how good the case is in normal use
This
Test with 2 fans vs 10 fans
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Might I add the case cost's about 250 euros now.
Adding this to my “List of cases to recommend to people when they’re building a PC”.
Others on that list: Lian Li Meshcool II, Phantecks 400A
Lian Li O11D (XL) is the best for watercooling.
And P500A
P360a too!
I often still end up recommending the Focus G old case but still hard to beat.
That is in the I don't care too much about looks, it just needs to not be garbage and hold my components teir.
So far I don't know of better options without bumping up the price.
@@sujimayne The two reasons not to buy the O11D: You want to aircool, or you don't like that everyone and their mother is using the case.
We need a schlieren video of Steve drying his magnificent hair with a hairdryer
Only fans
Eww you obviously don’t care about your hair lmfao jk hair dryers are trash... for the health of your hair
In slow motion with 70's pron music? I'll become a high tier Patreon member to see that LoL
Dyson?
Yes, this would greatly improve the quality of my life
I bet the guy in design was watching and lost his mind when Steve called out the attention to detail. Good on Steve for making this a point in his video, as the person responsible will get the much deserved feedback and for most people in this field thats all they want.
Bought the case 3 days ago this just made me feel I made the right choice thanks everyone who worked on the video
any idea if you can MOD it to support a 420 AIO like the arctic freezer in the FRONT? Im planning to squeeze the 420 in and if i have to FLEX the bottom open ill do so to fit it in this beauty of a case.
@@GioCTRL if you haven’t already done it the 7000D airflow supports 420 mm radiators
Thanks Steve. Just want you to know that having these reviews out here is still helpful years later!
This is the first time I’ve ever seen Steve be genuinely impressed with a case and it was made by Corsair lmao what are the odds
2021 is real. 😂
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I definitely love how they’re listening to the reviews and improving. Definitely the case I’ll be grabbing. Thanks Gamer’s nexus
Just to say, I would like to see a test of air flow cases fully populated with fans to see the full potential of the cases design. I don’t know a single person who buys a case to use stock fans or put 3 fans in a case that can hold 10, wouldn’t it be more poignant to not recommend this case if you barely intend to take advantage of the air flow? These cases are called air flow so why not fully test the main selling point instead of a semi air flow test.
I bought this case and intend to use it with the stock fans
@@alexdylan9668 personally I see that as a waste of money, paying that money for a case you wont see the full potential of as your restricted by the cost saving lack of fans. I have the H500m, it would be like CL just putting 1 200mm fan in. As I said, that’s just my view.
I think it is better to test them with standardised fans so you can actually get an accurate idea of how well the actual design of the case improves airflow.
@@Leanzazzy That makes zero sense as the standardised flow is with fans fully populating slots, everyone knows manufacture’s limit fans supplied with the case to keep the RRP reasonable.
The problem is, once you start testing with more components than the manufacturer provided, The Number of Configurations To Test becomes very open ended.
Nice to see that the 4000D Airflow I ended up getting is favourably reviewed by you guys, and is actually in a position to be as good as the rest of the airflow cases!!!
I use 2 140mm Gelid Silent 14 Pro fans for intake, and a 120mm Arctic BioniX F120 fan for exhaust.
Only use air cooling, so didin't need the radiator support of the 5000D.
the one guy from corsair likely appreciates the callout for having an eye for detail. the marketing team perhaps less so about being called out for value :)
You can tell how much better it is by how Steve looks so happy in the intro.
Thanks for the great review as always. I just ordered the 5000D Airflow model with some be quiet! Light Wings 120mm & 140mm PWM high-Speed fans. I have a Thermaltake Core P3, but decided I wanted to go back to a closed case design. I had to make sure the case I chose supported a 360mm aio.
Great video, as always. I looked at this case when recently shopping and ended up going with the Thermaltake View 51 Snow. The main reason is because the Corsair 5000 series cases have a basement, while the TT View 51 is designed more like the Lian Li O11 Dynamic cases with the dual chamber and things like a PSU and additional hard drives go in the back. Also, there is enough clearance to mount a 360mm x 60mm thick radiator in the rear chamber, behind the mounting area for the 3x 120mm side fans.
At that price point, Corsair should've definitely committed to adding more premium fans. I have the Lian Li LanCool II Mesh and it blew me away in terms of thermal performance with the stock fans. I have not bothered installing additional fans in it. That said, bravo to Corsair and please continue this trend of listening to valid constructive criticism, a gorgeous case design and with improved airflow. You're definitely on the right track so stay there and keep moving on up.
This case is ridiculously overpriced for what you get - but that is standard from Corsair. It needs to be $40 cheaper to make sense. For that money you could get a P500a which is a far better case anyway, or an 011 dynamic which is light years ahead of this, or the new Meshify 2 larger version (its name escapes me) which is again a way nicer case than this air conditioning unit.
@@malphadour any specific reason the p500a or the o11 are so much better than the 5000d? They share a lot of of the same features-front type c, good airflow,good build quality,and 360 rad support.Also this has one some unique features and a good interior design with good cable management as well
@@malphadour considering that the RGB version is technically cheaper if you add in the cost of the fans and node.
whats interesting i got the 5000d case and it had 3 of their higher ranged rgb fans ( same fans that comes with their aio coolers )
Got this one last week (Air) mostly because at the moment there aren't much choice here.
I was looking for the Meshify 2 but the price is too high compared to the msrp and, the p500a look not so good as this one (purely aesthetic).
Anyway, as Steve said, with a couple of Noctua you can have a decent case.
I'm satisfied with it, thanks for the fans position tips.
nice to see a case review on the channel, it's been a while. keen to see the freshly announced O11D-evo
Great review! just ordered the case. Can't wait to get my new build in it.
Wait, replaceable first-party case components? This can't be true!
Good to see Corsair back on track. The 5000D is a great looking case and with added cooling should make some great builds. I really like the looks of this one. If I were now doing a build for myself, this one would be on the short list.
Thanks for the review. I appreciate the detailed testing in this one.
my black 4000D airflow came back and its honestly not getting replaced until it falls apart because this is the best case ive ever had.
I went for a non rgb build and its all blacked out 🥴
That's how I feel about my 400D hahaha
I got into PCs right when Corsair were first making waves in the Case market, so it’s nice to see them finally back on form after around half a decade of duds.
I have the 5000X, which is the same but with glass panels. It has ten 120mm fans, 6 fans blowing air in (3 on front, 3 on side) and 4 fans blowing air out (3 on top with CPU radiator and one on back). My CPU and GPU both run nice and cool (Ryzen 9 5950X and RTX-3090 FE). If you like the glass or closed panels, fill every fan slot and you won't have any problems with an overheating GPU.
I was planning on getting the same case with a very similar configuration. How are your thermals? Thank you I’m advance if you reply!
I recently bought this case and have been happy with it (Airflow) - I've got 4x 120, 2x140 case fans and 2x 140 CPU fans, I've been optimising for noise and have been pretty happy with how low I can dial the fans down.
One thing I'd note is that due to the way the radiator mounts are - the Arctic Freezer II 280 is quite tricky to install in anywhere except the front. The top doesn't leave any room so any motherboard with anything but the smallest VRM heatsink on it is going to block it. I'm happy with putting the the heatsink in the front as I think getting the cool air over the radiator should allow me to keep the fans quieter, but something worth considering.
One other slight knock is that I found this case a bit tricky to build in even compared to the smaller case I came from (Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX from 2015).
Great review, thanks for sharing. Hope we see a evolution of the Air 540/740 into this new design of the 5000D/4000D, the 540/740 really need glass side panel instead of acrylic and this new style front and top panels that are much easier to remove and clean the filters.
I populated 10 fans in my 5000D Airflow. Also using a H150i capellix. Front 3 fans set as intake. Side 3 fans set as intake. Top 3 fans and rear as exhaust. I’m getting a max 70 degree Celsius CPU Temperature on a Ryzen 5800x under full load running Cinebench R23
I opted for the same setup, though using arctic freezer ii 360mm. It does a great job of keeping my 10850K temps with a mild oc under control. I'm also getting excellent gpu temps. I like the case a lot though the tinted glass panel is a bit dark (I have the black version)👍
@@davapod I have a new build arriving in a couple weeks, which includes this case and the same AIO you got. Curious, where did you choose to position your AIO, and for intake or exhaust? I'm also wondering what fans to get that preferably run quiet since I do music production.
@@ChildOfSaturnMusic II mounted the Arctic freezer at the front, tubes down, fans as intake. 3x Arctic P12 pmw pst side fans as intake. 3x Top mounted fans. 1x rear mounted all as exhaust. For these I used Noctua NF-p12's as I some spare, though the Arctic P12's would be just fine for low noise.
So nice to see Corsair making good cases. I really like my old 750D, so I'm glad to see more cases from Corsair that are keeping the tradition and name alive in the bigger builder segment.
Same here. Going from a 750D to the 5000D. 3x 120mm fans on the side and 2x 140mm in the front for intake. Stock rear fan and cpu aio exhausting.
I had a 450D for years and love it, but when I looked at their cases for a new build they had nothing that really impressed me at all in terms of air flow build. So I went with the Phanteks P600S and love it. I might look at one of these for the second office computer, I do like the look of them.
I just moved my custom watercooled system from an Obsidian 500D SE to the 5000D Airflow yesterday. All the hardware including the fans are the same between both builds. I found I dropped 10c off my temps and my fans ran 200rpm slower with the same custom curve. I'm extremely happy with both the build process and the temps of the 5000D Airflow. I should note I am using 6 Corsair ML fans.
4000D supports 360m rads, the user just needs to pick an airflow variant and mount vents between the case and the removable front panel, which is possibly my choice to mount 280 mm 55 mm thick rad into a case without cutting it.
i have a ek 360mm aio in the front of my 4000d fits fine
any idea if you can MOD it to support a 420 AIO like the arctic freezer in the FRONT? Im planning to squeeze the 420 in and if i have to FLEX the bottom open ill do so to fit it in this beauty of a case.
@@GioCTRL use the 7000d instead.
@@TheSjuris hey Steven, I got the 5000d and the 420 Rad push pull config fit perfectly in the front, just had to grind down some plastic inside in the top front and cut some sheet metal of the case in the front to let the bottom fan breathe aswell. Fits in nicely and am now ready for 12th gen Intel 250w furnaces of chips👍
@@TheSjuris crazy how they want ya to spend 100€ more even tho the 5000d would easily be able to hold a 420rad in the front by just making some minor design changes.
I like your advice to purchase a mesh case with decent fans (PWM for the case and decent CPU cooler) over a "silent case" that leads to higher temperatures (shortening component life) and higher speed fan rates 👍👍👍👍👍I was initially looking at the FD define7 but ended up with the Corsair airflow with noctua PWM fans following your advice. I'm very happy with it
I happened to leave the side fan cover on while putting three extra fans in there with the idea of the side intake fans blowing cool air on the huge side panel keeping it cool so the front fans blow the cool air in onto the already cooled side panel and keeping it real nice and cool. Also getting some airflow blowing directly into the side panel and directly onto the motherboard
Thanks Steve. I plan on ordering a black 5000D Airflow next week.
The one thing i love about the 4000D and 5000D is the sleek design on the inside it tempts me to choose the components for my build REALLY CAREFULLY.
Its like im given a precious china plate and its up to me to make a dish and present it in a way that fits with the sleek and grace resonating from this plate
Which is precisely why I don't want a glass panel case... My computer is not a the holy shrine that I, as an e-monk, must bow down to in daily meditation on the holy documentation bestowed upon me by the elders of my monastery... Strangely enough, 20 years ago I did custom water loop and 400W peltier elements to get my Dual Celeron II 400MHz to run stable at 600MHz... lets just say "the solution" to condensation problems wasn't worthy of a glass pane...
@@andersjjensen I built my current rig, with custom hardline tubing, and in the Lian Li o11 in Dynamic early 2019. Honestly, the case, even with two glass panels, was far easier to work with than anything else I'd ever used. It was also my first time doing custom water loop and tube bending, and I really enjoyed the whole build.
The only thing I had to be more careful about was not scratching the plastic PETG tubing, other than that, the glass is WAY less likely to get scratched than paint or, god forbid, those old acrylic panels PCs used to use.... Ugh... those would scratch just from looking at them. lol
I like having my PC up next to my desk to see all the goodies inside. I spent a lot of time and care on cable management (which was the worst part), so admiring it is kinda nice. :)
It has practical uses too. I can easily see post codes, the GPU tachometer, and when it's time to dust it. :P
I love that you have two cases instead of just two panels. Maybe they're just proud of this one.
Ha! We asked for just the panels, but they did it this way. Corsair is big enough now that it's "easier" to do that!
thank you guys for the reviews
I recently picked up the Carbide Spec Delta Case for £20 off of full price and I'm in love with it. 3 included RGB fans and a nice rear fan. Even with only one front fan, cpu fan and rear fan running it keeps quite cool.
I think this is quite goodloking compared to the alternatives listed. I wish you did normalized AIO tests for large cases like this, since most users who spend this much money on a large case will be mounting one. I wonder if switching the included intake fan to the bottom and mounting the AIO to the top would help.
The temps at stock, even with the solid front panels, is super impressive. Nice to see some actual engineering and thought going into allowing a certain visual style to do a decent job at cooling.
I also really like the visual design of this case. I'm not in the market for a new case, but I still like it. :P
Imagine how good thermals will be with 6 high quality fans and the airflow front panel.
@@Trainmaster909 I have this case and 10 Noctuas, and temps are insanely good and it's insanely quiet. Overkill as hell? Yes, but no ragrets
@@johncuthbertson95 Is it worth getting the 5000D airflow over the 4000D airflow?
From what I see the only advantages are:
2 additional SSD slots
1 extra USB port on the I/O
Larger cooling space and room for mounting larger GPUs
Space for 3x120mm fans on the Motherboard tray
@@Leanzazzy go with the 4000d and save some money
@@Leanzazzy With the 5000D you have the option to mount a 360mm rad to the top where as the 4000D is limited to 280mm. According to the specs on Corsairs site the 4000D will not fit a 4090 but the 5000D will. I bought the 4000D sometime ago and was planning on getting a 4090 later this year. Now I'll have to buy a case as well and am deciding between the 5000D and Fractal - Torrent.
Ergo - it actually cost me money going with the cheaper case, but hindsight is 20/20 and who would have thought GPU's would be the way they are now.
Awesome! I was curious about this case. :) ...also the 4000D airflow I was considering (it's sold out everywhere currently anyway)
Good, should receive my white 5000 airflow tomorrow. Already have plenty fans to optimize the air flow. Can't wait to build into it.
Man this dropped, and I just got the 4000D airflow for Christmas....
This is actually an amazing case. It’s like an o11d with more focus on performance than looks, but also looking nice. Now i would complain about the fact that basically no one makes white pc parts anymore, but that wouldn’t mean much since there aren’t even any black or ugly green or red pc parts to buy for less than 3x msrp.
Thank you Steve and everyone at GamersNexus.
I literally threw a bunch of money at this because you reviewed it with good thermals, didn't think anything obviously negative, the look was what I wanted (lots of others didn't seem as cool to me) and seems flexible into the future, and the poor GPU cooling performance is going to be addressed with my existing Noctua fans, which are compatible with the flexible fan options offered by this case. Ace!
You took what I usually spend a week doing and burned it down to a few hours. Thank you!
This review saved me from quite some headaches. Thousand tanks!
Fair play to Corsair on this one - it's a compelling option! If I was doing a build now this would be a serious contender.
Front 360mm radiator with tubes down is almost always impossible with the standard issue 400mm tubes most AIOs ship with
It's a good thing I don't care about aio watercooling systems.
OH YES you're such a genius, I've been waiting all time for such a review !!!!!!!
Steve, I love your videos, very informative and gives confidence behind making a purchase - which is where I'm looking for suggestions: 6800 xt, liquid freezer ii 360 AIO sitting in ideally top mounted config (another video of yours), 1x ssd 1x hdd - which case would you recommend (budget and mid price points)?
The only thing i wish they did in this case was the front fan mount like the lianli lancol 2 so you can pu the fans in front without the ugly metal around
@Gamers Nexus I have appreciated your detailed reviews over the years and that helped inform me to choose the Silverstone RL06 case for my build, a couple years ago. I have noticed lately, that, pleasingly, more case manufacturers are releasing 'HAF' or atleast Mesh front intake filtered cases, rather than the earlier, unfortunate trend of blocked or largely blocked front panel intakes that restricted positive air pressure set-ups, significantly. But a new potential issue I see is with your charts: The amount of cases or more, their variants, means the comparative lists are full of a range of case types from HAF, front Mesh types to closed front panel cases or variants of those cases. Given the growing amount of cases on your charts I wonder: Could you have separate lists for HAF/Front Mesh Cases and 'the rest'? Would be neat to see a comparison of the HAF/Mesh front cases alone, apples-to-apples and if people wish to see comparisons with other case variants, they can see them on another chart? Maybe you could have a video sometime this year on the new 'High Airflow King' or something and include older cases like Silverstone's RL06 to see how they match up - stock, noise-normalised, Standardised Fans etc? There's getting so many of them now, could be interesting to see.
6:13 I got this case and I actually bought a longer screw and some nylon washers to just be able to screw it down. Its a good mod for this case.
Hey Steve, are you guys at GN still collaborating with a manufacturer to make a "GN Case"? Was just wondering and didn't remember if there was an update on this recently. Thanks
I want to know to
they are not idiot
I believe they said on twitter it fell through? Or it was a video somewhere.
@@MrAltairantares No. We never said anything like that. We haven't commented on it. We've been considering not doing the case to maintain separation from the companies, though. Haven't fully decided.
@@GamersNexus I'd vote for no GN case. This sort of collaboration can blur the professional journalistic boundaries really quick in the eyes of the audience, if not in reality. No product is worth losing trust over.
I'm keeping my eye out with this new round of case reviews. I want a new home for my arctic liquid freezer II 420. I have an 8yr old case that will fit it, but something more modern is desired.
Meshify 2 XL fits the liquid freezer 2 420 well (and is on Steve's list of "better than neutral" cases)
(Meshify 2 XL + liquid freezer 420 is my current configuration)
@@ultranerdprime7468 does that cooler fit on the top or the front?
I just want the GN-brand RV02 successor...
@@pfeilspitze i would spend so much money on case built by GN with their stamp of approval lol
I'll give putting it in my old Phantom Red NZXT Case a whirl. With a few modifications it should work. Should make for a nice project. I'm considering the meshify 2XL, but I'm going see what comes around first. I already have a 360mm radiator setup, so I'm in no hurry.
This was a well done, informative video. I need to mount a 360mm CPU radiator and a 240 GPU radiator. Many cases offer the option to mount one of them in front, but I like having intake fans there. The option to mount a radiator on the side is a nice feature that made me opt for this case. I’ll definitely add fans as needed so there are three in front.
Thanks for this detailed review as well as the others in this market sector. Very helpful content
Very helpful review. Thank you.
Has anyone else noticed that Steve is a French musketeer from the 17th century?
The 5000X is even better in sorts of love to details. The 5000X has glass even on the right panel of the case but still has the dustfilter implemented into the glasspanel, that's so dope!
It is but it's not recommended. The glass prevents major air flow unlike the mesh design on the 5000d
@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree Mine stays at 30-39c on idle. Works better then most other front glass panels.
@@TheSjuris noiceee
@@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree worked better than my h510 elite that like to idle at 65c.
@@TheSjuris damn that's crazy I ended up going with the lian li xl I have 13 fans in my rig on a push pull configuration. My idle ranges from 36 to 43 but my room is also hot af all the time lmao
Case reviews and over clocking are my favorite subjects on this channel.
I "fit" a 3x140mm radiator with the bottom fan somewhat suffocated, and all fans aren't screwed in with all four screws into the radiator. It works because the Corsair H170i ELITE radiator fit with zero clearance - it's not going anywhere. I moved the fans that came with the case to the side openings, mounted the radiator+fans to the front, plugged everything into the RGB controller that came with the H170i, and removed the controller that came with the case. The only thing I had real trouble with, or didn't really work well, was fitting the 24V cable through the panel that hides the cables on a FULL SIZE ATX board like the ASRock Taichi Carrara. I picked up a right angle RGB adapter to make this work. I had issues with the cable management because how you remove some of the pieces aren't exactly clear, but once I got everything together, snugged up all the cables with the straps and the bar, it came together wonderfully. I absolutely hated working with this case, it was my least favorite build to date, but I love it now that it's put together.
I just bought this case and it comes in sunday so I'm excited I will edit this comment when i get it letting yall know how good the case is in case yall are looking to purchase this case
I have the 5000D closed case. I am probably going to do a write up on it and will share when I can. I went fully Corsair on this my first build in 7 years and first ever fully liquid hard tube on GPU and CPU. Case gets a 4 out 5 from me. Needs 1cm at the top and 3cm to the front for full fanage
@@CmdrPom cool yeah I like a lot of the corsair products I have their corsair k70 and I don't know the mouse but I have loved corsair for a long time so I am expecting a lot from them
really good it has really good
Still waiting for a modern case with side panel fans
At this point, I consider it a win if you can get 5.25" bays. Physical isn't dying, it's being killed.
@@angolin9352 true they are trying to kill off physical drives and support for them. Some people do still have Blu Ray's or DVDs that they would use in a htpc. It's nice to at least have the option to put one in. Although they are removing that option now.
Honestly it's not really necessary anymore. With hard drive capacity backup NAS servers and internet speeds being much faster. It saves manufacturers money to take out the drive bay area. It's less materials which saves them money.
Right? I don't think it would be that hard, either. Probably more expensive, but could be done in a way that hides all the wires. I think having a glass panel with the fan hole/mounting cut out would be awesome. If I designed it, I would have the panel connect power/RGB via some pogo pins on the case, then somehow embed the copper wires into the glass so it would look almost like a clear PCB. I don't even think that's possible, but would look SUPER cool.
@@Sevier7777 I personally want to install my aquaero 6xt controller without having to rely on some jenky Jury rigged solutions. So far I have not found modern case that can replace my aging 900d with my needs.
@@eliadbu their are a couple of cases you can still get. While not brand new within this year or last year. They are still kind of newer than the corsair series. They do have 5.25 drive bays. Cougar panzer max full tower is one of them.
I had a Fractal Design Meshify C for years. I replaced it because my i7 12700k (stock) would not go under 90C when running something like CinebenchR23 and my GPU (RTX 2070 Super) would not go under 80C when gaming. I had an 240mm radiator with two Noctua nf-a12x25 PWM fans, one more nf-a12x25 as a exhaust, and two 140mm Noctua fans as intake with the foam filter removed from the front panel. I replaced the case with this case and replaced the 240m radiator with a 360mm and used the fans that came with the new radiator. I reused my three nf-a12x25 as the side intake and my two 140mm fans as front intake. I removed both 120mm fans that came with the case. Yes, I don't have a rear exhaust fan in my 5000d. My CPU temps are now close to 80C in CinebenchR23 and my GPU is now under 70C when gaming. I'm just glad my computer runs a little bit quieter now and the top of top of the case isn't so hot I could just about fry an egg on it.
My i7-12700K reaches 77 degrees for one Cinebench R23 run on the 5000D Airflow black case with the two stock fans. Unlike you, i use a Deepcool Assassin 3 air cooler (it's a music production build and i hate liquid cooling).
I don't want to sell one of my kidney for a hot and power hungry graphics card and add fan and electrical noise to my PC. I'm stuck with integrated graphics, until an efficient 3080Ti is launched for 125 watts, looking for a GTX1660 Super style of power consumption.
For now, i don't notice any sound difference when the PC is on and off, it's so quiet, in fact, my Deepcool Assassin 3 stays at 500RPM because i also applied -120mv of an adaptative undervolt. Only on Cinebench is working at full speed and still i don't hear it.
Hey I literally just installed a server system in one of these I wanted to make a quiet build and this is exactly what I built it’s honestly fantastic.
And now i have enouugh corssair velcor straps for the rest of my life lol
Is it just me, or does Steve speak too quickly at some points? I can't recall having to rewind as much as I have for this video while actively focusing on the video.
lol I actually slowed the speed back to normal from my default 1.25.
Looks like a really good case for a higher end build when you can fully populate it with fans. Even the -X has very good temps with full fans.
Side mounting AIOs can be a problem though, have to make sure the tube length is long enough. My h150i capellix just barely reaches even with tubes up
I bought the 4000d for mi first build and while cable management was a bit bad but since it has nice ascetic and good airflow and you recommend it, i have to say im happy with it
Feels good when you are listened to, doesn't it?
Snowflake left out of the credits again. Life is pain
Really like my 4000D Airflow. Was a pleasure to build in. The lack of fans do not concern me with this or these new 5000 cases as I use my own fans. I discarded the 2 fans that came with this case and just put it in Ye Olde Parts Bin. Most people I know use their own fans anyway. If I had one minor complaint it would be that it could use 1 or 2 more USB 3.0 on the front panel.
I'm glad they actually put room behind the dang motherboard tray lol. My older Corsair case def does not. Great vid!
This is like a mirror to the past when you could make buying decisions based on component reviews and actually build a system. RIP PC Gaming
I love GN and I especially enjoy watching case reviews. Of particular value to me is the build notes. But almost every time, I find myself shouting at the screen when they come to thermal testing. What the F&%$ is the point of testing these cases with setups that NO ONE is EVER going to use them in?
I understand there's something to be said for a degree of scientific rigor when it comes to the kinds of testing GN does, but it helps me nor any other potential case buyer to know how a case performs with only the stock fans. We should be encouraging case manufacturers to sell cases with zero fans, anyway, since the ones they include are usually trash and add an unnecessary extra amount to the MSRP of the case, not to mention end up in the trash (I've only ever bought 3 computer cases and I've got a big box of stock case fans that have never been used). I don't know what percentage of case manufacturers care (or how much they do) about how their cases fare in GN reviews, but if they do, surely they're more likely to include a couple more stock fans, bumping up the price even more for no other reason. Not only that, but now you're even moving these useless stock fans around in the case trying to find the optimal arrangement when, and I repeat, NO ONE is EVER going to use the case like that. So you're essentially using your time to test cases in multiple configurations that provide virtually no useful information to consumers, other than the fact that they need to buy more fans... but we already know that.
Please, for the love of, at least add a "typical" or "ideal" fan setup. If you insist on doing the other tests for scientific completeness, then that's your business, but please add this one final test that would add more useful information that all the other thermal tests combined.
I'm still using a Corsair 400r since 2013, amazing case at the time.
I have the 4000D and honestly? It's the best case for the price on the market at that price point, especially if you're like me and just have fans you can gut from a current system already. I don't really see the middling "only include 2 fans" thing as a huge issue, as you can either use what it came with to adequate performance for the average build, use a few additional matching Corsair fans to match (the supplied fans are pretty good as-is, just not *top of the line*), or like me, go ultra quiet with Be Quiet! fans and spend a bit more.
I was really happy with how easy it was to build in this, and I just love the PSU shroud and overall clean look to the build. The black one looks GREAT for blackout builds with minimal lighting, by the way.
In conclusion: Lian LI still has the bang for the buck
Yeah the Lancool 2 mesh is sweet
....and to think, back in the 90's 2000's Lian Li was well out of most peeps budget, plus the quality is still there. 😎
let's see xqc build in this one
Thank you so much for this thorough review! What is the conclusion on the fan review with regard to the stock fans? Does it perform better to move the front fan to the side and what does he consider an optimal fan setup here?
Thank's for recommending the fan at the PSU level ! Never thought of that. I think I'll try cable tying one directly in front of the shroud!
This is one of the most ridiculous reviews I’ve ever watched of any product. You’re testing it based on the fans it comes with and then saying thermals are bad? Who is buying a $150 case and then not putting shitloads of fans in it? You should have tested it with 10 fans in it and then see how well it performs.
Just for anyone looking at building with this case, I have 13 120 case fans installed: 6 on top 360 radiator as push pull, 3 on front, 3 at side and 1 at rear of case. For the side fitted 3 fans, i left in the shroud, took bit more effort but it can be done. And the good thing is the air now gets directed right at the RAM banks, so its pretty good .
Phew, I can now feel confident in my choice to grab myself one of these… although I did get the 5000X as I found it for cheaper than the 5000D over here in the UK, and bought some extra fans to go in it. Just waiting on then to arrive before I can finally build my very first DIY PC build that I’ve been putting together over the last few months, buying bits as and when I could afford them based mostly on GN advice amongst others. This time next week I’ll be punking my way round Night City. I can’t wait. 👽✌🏼
I just got this case and I love it so much
Great review, love your channel .. the last case from Corsair I had was the 750d Obsidian (w Mesh front panel ) which is now redundant. I'm looking to build a new pc anyway, is it worth it over the Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL though ? Anyway great work ! 😉
I had just brought this case because I had fell in love with it's design. I haven't used it as of yet but, I will use it when I get a few parts for it. (Excluding graphics card)
Have the same case. It's amazing. Upgraded from the 4000D.
I just bought this case I'm so excited
Thanks for the hard work, I got a Meshify 2 because your reviews answered most of my questions about different cases. I would like to see cases have more front panel I/O interchangeable plate options, kinda like using a drive bay plate in older towers. I managed to stuff 9x 140mm fans into the case mostly because I could. Due to space constraints, the case has to lie on it's side, have you reviewed using one of these cases in that configuration and how it affects the airflow? This orientation seems to cause the GPU fan to rattle some.
I'm impressed that your channel is singlehandedly changing the case market for the better. The benefits of having a million subscribers.
A year ago or so, the case recommendations were "if you want a case for this much, you have option a or b (if you like RGB)."
Now, the conclusion is always a long list of caveats because the options are there. Good stuff!
as someone who is using 5000d airflow the way it build and the ease at which i was able to move my build into the case makes it worth the price it took me 20 minutes to remove my build from a cheap case and put it back in this case and it was so easy to clean the front filter took 2 second to remove panel and filter worth the price just for that
I acquired a 5000D solid case, but after watching this I ordered the airflow front and top for $15 a piece. Worth the investment, not that I am worried about cooling with a 7800X3D, but I like the look of the airflow better anyway! (Planning 9 fans, and going to modulate with rpm..) Cheers!