Is This 26-Year-Old OBS Ford F-250 7.3L Power Stroke BETTER Off-Road Than a Modern Truck?
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Kase takes our OBS Ford F-250 7.3L Power Stroke on the Ironclads trail to see how it stacks up against modern 4x4 off-road trucks.
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On these older trucks, frame flex is part of the suspension and how they got articulation with 4 corner leaf springs
no flex
Want see see something hilarious??
TH-cam Chevy Silverado 3500 HD frame strength twist ditch test!
Ford 🙄
I can truly say that frame flex that Chevy guys are always bashing the old C-Channel frames on makes all the difference off-road. I actually have both a old 85 F-250 HD long bed extended cab with the 460BB 4-speed 4x4 with the LSD REAR DIFF all factory and a 2019 Chevy 2500 withe the 6.0 extended cab long bed with the G80 rear diff. Both trucks are running the KO2's 35" tires off-road off camber situations the old Ford will walk through it where in the Chevy you find yourself not advancing and having to back off or be pulled through the same area's. Have tested many many different times with the same results, which is why when I need an off-road HD truck for work, I take the old 85 to the job. When it's more on road I use the Chevy 2500 to keep from racking up the miles on the 38 year old Ford that has absolutely 0 rust anywhere with factory paint.
So many people don't believe me when i say this lol
Lol
Kinda want to see an OBS Chevy with the 6.5 turbo compete against the 12-valve and the 7.3 just to see how the big three went against each other off road.
Hahahahaha!!! The 6.5 diesel was a joke! High end or nothing at all! No offense. I do like early GM diesel. But look, they saw they failed and the duramax happened , with VERY high HP and a good transmission. Cummins fails in auto trans, powerstroke wins on a margin. Good engine, good trans, not a cummins payload. But any of the 3 are GREAT!
That bed flexing over everything is crazy!! Probably needs new cab and bed bushings im assuming lol
These trucks are designed to flex.
There are no bed bushings. The bed is solidly mounted to the frame. A 25 foot C-channel ladder frame has a huge amount of flex.
Width isn’t really a problem in an OBS ford. The length with that truck, ya, it’s a problem. But believe me when I tell you it’s the same width, or slightly narrower than a 3rd gen Tacoma. I have a 3rd gen taco and an OBS Bronco, and I couldn’t believe it, but it’s true.
💯..
Modern F150s and midsize have bulkier bodies than older superduties
Widths, all without mirrors:
1996 F250 (same as Bronco and F150): 79.1 inches
2023 F250: 80 inches
2023 Tacoma: 75.2 inches.
Maybe the online data is incorrect - someone with a tape measure can correct.
@@matthewprather7386those are also dimensions listed by the manufacturer……
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Awesome truck
Cool to see how much chassis flex added to the off-road capabilities of these old trucks before lockers.
The long chassis, despite being a negative for break-over here, may have actually helped all 4 corners staying planted due to the added flex!
Which is good considering the TTB front end does not work with leaf springs because they do not allow the suspension to pivot/articulate like it’s designed to.
Newer truck yeah definitely automatic, but these old 7.3s with a manual are some of the most enjoyable trucks to drive. Nothing like rolling through the gears
This makes me miss my dad's old farm trucks. They were absolute workhorses and took me to my first date in high school. Great video by the way, you guys make a good team.
Love these old trucks, regardless of the brand.
That truck would be able to do that with a load of wood in the bed, over and over, for years and years.
Yeah Timmy does it with his house on the back of his. Easy peasy.
Truckhouselife
As long as the break over is just enough a long wheelbase can traverse serious terrain where a Jeep would have to take a different line. You don't have to have a Jeep.
Case is just a natural. He and Alex make a good team and it’s nice to see a younger perspective as well. More please!
You guys, Alex and Case make up a very capable team producing great truck contents too, thanks so much.
Love how the beds flex on these trucks. Probably not good but it does look cool 😂
The frames are made out of spring steel, there made to flex
@@qbubbaqThey're made for it, but it looks bad. Like the cab is going to take damage as it is twisting. Nothing about that looks "cool" to me.
It’s designed for it. I have a 97 f350 that flexes the same. Doesn’t show as much now with aftermarket body mount bushings. Factory rubber gives more.
That's actually normal. My grandpa had an 87 on our farm and it twisted like that going through the creek behind our barn. When we loaded it down with creek rock to make a flower bed, it didn't seem to flex quite as much if i remember correctly. We didn't break anything 🤷♂️ haha
Edit: correction, it was a 91. Our 87 was an F-150
That's what it was designed to do. I'd rather have a frame flex than be so rigid that it cracks.
Enjoyed the video! Quick comment on manual versus automatic. I have had many breakdowns over the years including transmissions. The automatics generally disable the vehicles to where it needs to be towed, but a manual can typically still limp out on its own. Very important when wheeling alone.
Best not to wheel alone.(which I do often)I have never had to limp out of anywhere. (alone) And I have run both auto and manuals. In my youth, manuals were fine. But even back then, the automatics were favored.
You can always use 1-2 in an e4od. Never had a problem with mine
Nice work guys. Good honest run. Solid truck that has withstood the test of time. A truck most agree was the prime example of a true work horse.
The frame twist is crazy 😮
Spring steel
Normal for old C channel fords
Watching that truck roll over the steps obstacle and flex like a pool noodle in the beginning of the video brought some memories back. Had an 84 Chevrolet 3/4 ton reg cab with a long bed back in high-school.
these guys never went off road before lmao.
With 4 low and good gearing, shouldn't need to slip the clutch.
Kind of what 4 lo is for offroad.
Operator error lmao. Put it in low gear and air down a bit and it would've crawled right up those rocks like nothing. Might not be a great offroad truck but that was a very doable obstacle. Kinda shocking you're an offroad channel and you don't really seem to know what you're doing.
What does the tattoo on your arm mean?
Im currently building a 1988 f250 making it look like a military truck all military green stock steel rims with larger tires and 6bt cummins or 7.3 powerstroke or isuzu 4bd1t.
Drinking game time----Every time you hear slip the clutch take a drink.
I had a 1991 Ford Ranger 2.3 and I can tell you that truck was more Reliable than any vehicle they build today sold it with 250k miles it was 27 years old still had the original fuel pump not ONE time did that truck ever leave me stranded.
Agreed, I had a 1985 Econoline 150 with the 4.9 inline 6 cylinder with over 500,000 miles & never once did it leave me stranded.
I've owned all brands of vehicles & Ford's are as tough & reliable as they come. I don't care what people say they have proven themselves to me.
Fun video, thanks guys! I am guessing the bed flexes because of the c-channel type frame underneath, vs. the full boxed frame of the current Ford trucks?
Awesome video guys. Always enjoy your hard work to showcase beautiful trucks. This era of Fords will last a lifetime.
Our 1980s and 90s F series Farm trucks lasted all the way up until the 20 teens. They are still running somewhere with new owners. So capable and reliable. We worked them to death but we kept up on the maintenance and replaced things as we went.
Our 1980s and 90s F series Farm trucks lasted all the way up until the 20 teens. They are still running somewhere with new owners. So capable and reliable. We worked them to death but we kept up on the maintenance and replaced things as we went.
Why didn’t you use 4-Lo on Razor Rocks? I’ve seen a bunch of videos where TFL is not using 4-Lo on Razor Rocks. I don’t think you should have to be touching the accelerator simply ease off the clutch if you were in 4-Lo.
Yep but then they'll use 4lo in the mud where you need 4hi for wheel speed
What I appreciate about this video and your channel in general is the transparency. In the past I've wondered why you wouldn't just go for it. Makes a lot of sense that the video is only going to make a small amount of change and not worth the extra cost to fix something. Also, love that truck! Just so nice seeing those OBS Fords still around
Man, this takes me back. These “old” trucks were tanks.
Great video.
😮so did he not use low range and granny gear? I've had that truck. No clutch slip needed ever. Just slow walk over everything way slower than he's going
That truck in low and first gear with 4.10s should idle right up that
you want views with this truck? go find it a mud pit and send it! 😎
Gotta love the 7.3. I think you guys need to find a 7.3 4x4 Excursion to do a series on next, I love mine. For something that isn't much bigger than a modern F150, they are invincible and endlessly capable, while still returning modern F150 MPG.
Getting the shorter wheel base, lifted up not much, and lockers would go a long way. If you can save some weight with the gas version, that too.
“This video’s gonna make thirty Bucks”
Lol
That truck flex, although not ideal for towing 30,000lbs.. helps getting through the woods with alot in the bed easily.
At some point you guys need to get your hands on one of these with a 460 gasser, it’s crazy how similar the big block gasser and diesel options were back in the day in terms of power and capability, my granddad’s old big block gasser was able to get through mud that lifted modern diesel trucks were struggling in while it was on street tires, and pull the lifted diesels out of some really slick mud.
I got one!
I had one. 95 Gasser F350 460 BB Fuel Injected E4OD Trans, Crew Cab Long Bed Dually. Twin I-Beam Suspension up front, about 10 feet back behind the drivers seat, a heavy duty Sterling 10.25 1 Ton Axle with 4.10 gears. I could barely feel any bumps. It was so comfortable that you could go over rail road tracks and not feel them. It could also pull a house
I would take this 7.3 over any truck with a 6.0 or a 6.4, any day.
Love this stuff! I’m considering replacing my ‘07 Ram with a truck like this. Can’t seem to keep the check engine light off on my Ram.
Dont 😂😂😂😂 these are worst and wayyyyyy lesss capable 😂😂😂 stop
KO2s SUCK that's their worse tire.
Just pray to jesus you never see mud with em.
Still better off being the pavement princess we all know it really is 😂. Like Alex pointed out all the movement in the middle, haven't seen that much articulation since being in a JD9620😂. That aside, nice GP Mister Kasey❤, at the 45 sec finally caught a glimpse of your chrono
Try turning that subwoofer enclosure around 180 degrees (sub facing the rear of the cab). With a cab that large, it's likely to be an improvement.
Now this is what I am talking about!!!
The old Ford is a hoss. I enjoyed the video.
The 7.3 was the best motor made for 3/4 trucks. These year models were made to last, would run circles around today’s quality.
I really need to get my 93 going again. Same exact bed and cab configuration only mine is metallic red with the 460/7.5 gasser. Love that thing
This video smells like clutch
OBS F150 with the coil springs and twin traction beam in the front is the peak way to appreciate the old school frame flex
You guys need more practice off road with a manual! That was painful to watch.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong cus this might be a dumb question. Did they ever make an obs f250 super cab short bed? With the 7.3 diesel. I’ve seen super cab short bed gassers but yet to see a diesel one.
Couldn't imagine a worse trail vehicle. Maybe a Grand Caravan on 33s.
What's the name of that trail?
Truth Or Dare
@@kylebutler7142 Thats not showing up on OnX
Let’s Go!!!
You gotta air down brother! Make that ride a lot more complaint and give you a ton more traction especially on that rocky stuff.
I have an OBS ford in the same configuration (just IDI-T and auto), cool to finally see a video of one doing some light wheeling. Thing that really sucks about the OBS F250’s is the turning radius
You were not framed out, you would have been fine
Funny thing about the sound and wildlife comments yall made, there is still a healthy logging industry around where I live. The deer, turkey, etc have grown more comfortable with the old diesel sound than newer gas engines.
Yeah i daily a 97 f150 8ft bed. Things a limousine but you get used to it fairly quickly 😂😂😂
15:36 you just have to put it in 1 2 or 3 while in 4 low in an automatic and its the same as a manual. Not missing out on that feature in an auto. I just used it last weekend. Super steep hill no brakes under 1000 rpm
I have an old OBS and have only gotten it stuck good once, and I've tried hard. You gotta put it in low range in first gear, with that you can crawl over anything.
I'm not even sure what he's talking about "slip the clutch" Is he actually slipping the clutch or pressing the clutch pedal? I have same truck but single cab.
Love y’all’s videos but if you have to slip the clutch on a manual transmission of road then you should really stay out of them not trying to be negative but if you’re not able to finesse it without slipping the clutch and you’re bucking everywhere you are just tearing up the truck.
Why does everyone on You Tube who is driving offroad, never air down? And then complain about a rough ride and not making obstacles!😂
Put 500lbs of something in the bed. Guarantee it will ride better everywhere. Your traction will be grealty increased offroad.
Actually these are terrible trucks. But I'd be willing to take them off your hands 😂. But really, these obs fords are so darn solid they are going to out love newer generation fords.
Could always do a Twin I beam coil swap on the front end. Talk about flex.
Experience is needed to drive these trucks, they do what ever, except hop on a busy highway
I have two brick nose fords. You have no idea what your talking about.
I have a 1996 7.3 powerstroke 5-speed and I kind of want to put a locker in the rear end
What a beautiful truck and such an amazing sound👍🏼
Time to sell your dodge and buy this from TFL 😂
And the harder push that power train the more stress you put on a Desiel the better she is going to run the compressed engine
At least you don't have to spend $5000.00 on tail lights if they break!🤣🤣
Do you know what you aired down to? Those tires didn't look like they gave too much..
Ok, where is this? I wanna take my 2000 F350 Crew Cab Dually there.
You can't get the truck up that not that the truck cannot get up it.
Incredible family adventure togetherness guys Well done.
I see my dude got a girard-perregaux chrono. Not sure if it’s a older laureato
It’s already made more than 30 bucks I’d rather see what it can do than what it can’t
Y’all must have had a repair bill from the towing test high enough to warrant this video.
I have the same truck, 95 with the automatic. 59k miles. Inherited it from my grandfather. Plan to keep it awhile !
Lucky!
If you ever have shifting problems with that e4od, check your third brake light. If the bulbs are burnt and the pigtails are melted. Replace it. I had this problem on mine and I shit you not, replacing the third brake light fixed it! Something to do with torque converter lockup with is wired into or tapping power from the third brake light. I ordered an led third brake light off Amazon and haven’t had any issues in over a year, I have the same truck
Can't wait for the diesel drag race
Awesome as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along
One of the best videos. Hardly see videos on full-size off-roading especially the Powerstroke
"Having an automatic is simpler" the words of a coward,
Sounds like that old 7.3 is misfiring at points in the video
4Lo granny gear you would’ve walked up. No clutch
The ZF 5 speed for diesels didn't have a granny gear.
That’s a monster I want to drive👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
god i don't miss those old trucks the ride was almost unbearable
Was the sway bar disconnected for this video?
I love ❤️ the F- series with a manual transmission.
Note the camera holder's Philadelphia Eagles t shirt.
8:47 I was noticing that too. Is that normal for a truck of this vintage? When I would ride in the bed of the truck as a kid, my dad told me never to put my fingers between the bed and the cab because it could flex and smash them, so I guess I knew flex was possible, but this seemed fairly extreme.
yes. ALL of ours did that. our LBZ does it to to a lesser extent.
Perfectly normal for an open C channel frame, of which all domestic trucks of this age and older were.
Yep its normal for c channel frame to do this some newer trucks still uses it (previous gen tundra) or some commercial trucks.
Manual transmission is the way on these trucks
Dude, looks like it has an articulating bed.
Thank the 2 drama queens aren't in this video.
like the super cabs over crew cabs
this dude has absulutely no idea how to drive an obs