I’m 13,000km on a set of ICAN FL40s, setup tubeless with Conti GP5000 25mm. Bought on recommendation from a mate and they are fantastic - used for crits, road racing (with a handful of B-grade podiums) and local rides. Bearings are perfection, spokes have held tension and the supplied brake pads not only stop well but they still have plenty of meat left for probably another 13kkm. Would certainly vouch for ICAN quality.
I bought a set of Light Bicycle wheels last year 45mm aero carbon with DT Swiss 240 hubs and sapim CX-Ray spokes. They are amazing and still very true! China rocks!
I've owned three sets of Aero 50 and 55 wheels from ICAN. incredible value. I've put thousands of miles on them. I have one of their frames too. Incredibly good for the $.
I picked up the Ican Aero Disc 40mm wheels with the Ican hubs and standard bearings. After about 750km they are running fine. However, I did order a ceramic bearing set for front and back and will be pressing those in this weekend for a few fractions of a watt savings 😅. The standard bearings after only 750km are actually showing very slight degradation which is maybe more my imagination than reality. I had the same impression about the rim tape. But, I’m running TPU so it wasn’t an issue as I had to pop in rim tape anyway. Which IMHO should have been included along with a few spikes and nipples. I also had the exact same impression about no grease under the caps. That was the first thing I did was run a smidge of grease in there. All and all very happy with my purchase. Keep the content flowing!
Hey Sven, Glad you’re enjoying the videos. Thanks for the Super Thanks, will get a coffee while testing the new wheels. Have already done one ride with them over the weekend, and they were very good. Noticed the difference straight away. Have now started working on the video about the second pair, they’re pretty special road wheels. Hope to get it finished in the next few days 👍👍
@@ribblevalleycyclist At first I wasn't too much interested in chinese wheelsets but the way you walked through the details made me sit up and listen. Impressive especially as I ride ZIPP 454 NSW which are hookless and having now problems with them as the hookless sidewall of the fron wheel bends outward a bit over a length of approx. 20cm not holding the tire firmly enough. I got some wobble first and finally a blow off. Hope ZIPP will get me a new one on warranty. In the meantime and as a spare I bought LEEZE, a rather small German manufacturer. They are hooked and with a much more narrow inner width. Anyway super stiff and comfortable. I oftentimes refer to you videos when working on my bikes. Sensational! Excited to see what's coming up. cheers☕☕
Thanks for clearing this up. I have bought the exact ICAN G25 Gravel Wheelset and have ridden them for over 8 months now with over 3 thousand miles and counting. I run them tubeless with 38mm tires and have been extremely pleased with their performance, reliability, and comfort. Definitely worth the price.
Glad I could help! Did my first ride on them over the weekend. 42 gravel miles on paths and canals. Really impressed with them, noticed the difference instantly.
GREAT ROAD WHEELS. I bought the G25s 2 yrs ago and run Conti 30mm tubeless and run them for road on my groad bike. Light, super comfy and very fast and smooth. No issues at all.
Love them. Have now covered a lot of miles on them, they’re fantastic. Cleaned the bike earlier today, for a bit of Christmas break cycling, still look amazing
Yes 100%. I’d guess ~6000 kms on them. Still very true and bearings perfect. With 32s you have a plush ride - while not a heavy wheel they are intended for gravel and thus probably stronger than many road wheels of equivalent weight. Perfect if you’re a heavier rider. I’ve seen no aero testing but at 50mm with a rounded profile they tick the boxes properly. Go for it.
I ran a set of their g25 rims on my last gravel bike for over a year. They were bomb proof and super light. Amazing customer service team at Ican. I can’t recommend them or Nextie enough as they have both been superb to work with.
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
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Been running ICAN Alpha Pro 55s for a 7000kms now without a hitch. Fast, light (1500g) and reliable. Only minus is the braking on the wet (rim brake). Good value.
I used a G25 as a front wheel on my Creo ebike. It was fantastic with a 28mm continental GP5000 on it. I ran a 60mm thinner ICAN on the rear. It is a very fast combination.
The lack of spare spokes in this case is not a serious problem. Sapim CX Ray spokes are Belgian made and are widely available in the UK for around £2.50 each. On the other hand many Chinese wheel manufacturers use Pillar spokes, made in Taiwan and, by all accounts, pretty good quality. However, availability in the UK is extremely poor, especially for Pillar bladed spokes. As far as I know Pillar do not have a UK distributor.
Well of course they’re gonna send you a wheelset that has gone through an extra thorough QA inspection since THEY KNOW you’re gonna review it on youtube 😄
@@ribblevalleycyclist sadly that is what all companies do.doesnt matter if its Chinese or not.even when i was working in warehouse,managers were choosing best samples of products to send for testing
Bonjour, je découvre votre chaîne. Excellent travail ça change des youtubeurs qui testent mais sans vraiment tester le matériel. La on a vraiment quelque chose de plus concret et poussé dans l’examens des produits
I own this wheelset and currently have 40mm tires on it. Of note, Pogačar used tubeless 28 mm Continental Grand Prix 5000S TRs on Enve SES 4.5 wheels with an internal width of 25mm when he won Strade Bianche. I plan to test some 28, 30, and 32mm tires on the G25s.
Good mutha fn review, I’ve been skeptical until now , I’m also looking at the lung rapid set 650 b , I need a wheelset real bad , ICAN had sum when I emailed them but without logo , I’ll reach out to them again real fast for my all city super pro , currently have the hunts alloy version but are pretty decent imo .SUBSCRIBED
Glad you enjoyed it, and welcome onboard!! Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away. Saying that though, I own 4 sets of HUNT, they're a good wheel.
Why should there be grease behind the endcap. That would just make a grinding paste whenever dust makes it past the seal. I have moved to not using greasing around the bearings, only when seating them, and had good results with that. Also wiping any excess is a good idea
Other manufacturers grease this area. A rubber O-ring will stop dirt and dust getting it, but not water. Therefore, you won't get a grinding paste. Water will eventually get into the bearing. Also, the vast majority of owners will not maintain this area.
Dear John, how do you find your truing stand? Looking for a replacement but can't afford the Park Tool versions. Not a full time wheelbuilder, just for regular repairs, thanks. Great video as always, enjoyed the follow-up too.
Hi Sharon, I've used the Park one in the past. Park make some good tools, but I think this is one area where they're way off the mark when it comes to price. This is the one I use, and I find it really good. Works with both QR, and thru-axle wheels, holds the wheel tight, and even has a third gauge to help you align warped brake disc rotors. ebay.us/t5WlEK
Hi, Thank you very much for the interesting review. A vulnerable point is how the attachment for the spokes in the rim is designed concerning whether the rim is reinforced and material quality to prevent corrosion. How is this taken care of on these wheels?
Hi Stein, Good question. The rim has a reinforced carbon layer running the full internal circumference of the wheel, this gives the reinforcement needed. The best thing to make spoke nipples out of is brass, but the problem with that is weights and cost. So aluminium nipples are used. The problem there is, you've got steel going into aluminium in a wet environment, so it's inviting galvanic corrosion. No manufacturer uses brass nipples, so they're all guilty of it. The way around the issue is carbon spokes, which is what has been used in my second wheel video.
Hey there :) Thanks for this lovley video. One tip for your video cutting technique. I think you should make more hard cuts in stead of using a blend effect. Its way more pleasing for the eyes.
Thanks for the tip! I do struggle with transitions if I'm honest. I'm not a creative person, so I do struggle with this part of my channel. I enjoy the process, but I just know I'm no good at it 🤣 I also find that since doing this, I watch TV in a different way! The other problem I have is talking to a camera doesn't come naturally to me, so I struggle with my lines, and pause a lot..... meaning I then need to cut it up a lot. I'll give the hard cut idea a go. Thanks.
Not tried those specific ones. I’ve watched other trusted TH-camrs talk about other wheels in the ICAN range, and it’s always been good. I remember Hambini looking at a set of ICAN road wheels, may be worth looking at that. For me though, I’d say ICAN is a good choice.
My G25 just arrived. Took the ICAN freehub off to grease the engagement a bit, so it isn't as loud. Now it won't slot back in. How did you do that? I tried twisting backwards and pushing, but that didn't work. Any help would be appreciated.
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thanks for the quick reply. Took me a moment to figure out how to prevent the string from getting trapped above the pawls, but it worked in the end!
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away. No, I forgot! 2 Years. But may be worth reading the small print: icancycling.com/pages/warranty-faq
Amazing to have found your channel, I’ve a grizl Al 7 and was hoping to buy a budget carbon wheels, waiting for your update on how you abuse it 🤭 in the next month , also a question, I have DT Swiss wheels, so what kind of hub to chose?
Glad I could help! Did my first ride on them over the weekend. 42 gravel miles on paths and canals. Really impressed with them, noticed the difference instantly. The DT Swiss hub is very good, but if you're on a budget, and aren't either pro or clocking up serious miles, then the stock hub is more than adequate, just look after it, and use good bearings when they eventually wear out.
Nice review. I swore by these things for a long time. Maybe these new ones have improved. I blew up a couple of Light bicycle rims. Always at the eyelets. I decided to spend 1200 on Reserve wheels because they just replace them for life. They also reinforce the eyelet area with more layup.
Hopefully you're also going to review SuperTeam wheels. I've had a set for several years now and several thousand miles and they're still going strong. Braking surface, truing, they still look and ride fantastic. All for (I bought them on sale) for less than $300 for a set of 38mm.
I own Ican since 2017 (rim brake 38mm road set) . Had some issues with alluminum niples, replaced all niples for a rare/hard to find Alpina niples. Since, the wheelset is fine. But the aftersales is terrible: needed a replacement rim due a car hit and Ican initially refused to provide. After a long argue and insistance, Ican overpriced the replacement rim. So, there is no point acquiring a product if aftersale is terrible. Next time, my choice will be Elitewheels.
I stuck them on my gravel bike not long after making this video, and they’ve done a good few hundred miles now. They replaced a set of alloy HUNT gravel wheels. I immediately noticed a difference when I first used them, the bike felt a lot more nimble. Overall I’m very impressed with them, they have made what was previously a bit of a tank feel a lot more like a regular road bike. When I do eventually get around to making the follow-up video, it’ll be a very positive review. My suggestion to ICAN will be to consider updating the hubs to the now commonly used ratchet style hubs, and consider either lacquering or redesigning the decals, because if you scratch one, which I have done, they’re white underneath.
@@ribblevalleycyclist $670 for SRAM XDR + $190 shipping to Korea + $150 approx. import charges and now they’re over $1000. I can buy Roval terra C wheels for that with a lifetime warranty. So, not the bargain i originally thought.
Good point! Their website doesn't quote this on the gravel wheels, but interestingly it does on their road wheels. Probably worth dropping them a quick email and asking.
One of my main concerns with buying direct from China is a lack of support in the states. I had an issue with my rear wheel recently, and was able to walk into my local shop and got it warrantied and had a new wheel in 7 days. Could not do that with the Chinese wheels. Now being low cost, could just buy a new one, but would not want to do that
For me, thats why I think this wheelset is good, because the components used are good quality (reducing problems), and spares can be obtained. The issue is buying Chinese wheels from brands that don't tell you what they're made from, and don't offer spares.
@@ribblevalleycyclist It keeps removing the comment where I try to say they are 'on a certain large Chinese online store' . That's where I bought them.
No bull? The guy has a clear agenda. I really couldn't care less about his views on Chinese vs name brand products. Just looking for reviews, not holier-than-thou lecturing.
If you are going to buy Chinese you have to understand the mindset of Chinese manufacturers. It is a super aggressive market (for everything) where competition on price and novelty takes precedent over all else. This means that Chinese manufacturers are by and large focusing heavily on the latest and greatest at the lowest prices. They will often aggressively cut costs by skip parts of the design and manufacturing process - rather than cut back on specs or increase prices to accommodate the cost of proper testing. This is true for brands which make products for western companies as well - the companies contracting out to Chinese OEMs often do their own prototyping, design and testing. Even if they don't they pay more for high levels of QC. This doesn't mean there is anything wrong with buying from China - you just have to be a much more "intelligent client". A lot of solid reputable brands exist alongside aliexpress no-name ones, but due to purchasing power parity differences between $ and the RMB (as well as lax IP laws) the Chinese stuff is still cheaper. You can get around the pitfalls by doing some or all of the below: a) avoiding first generation products (whether bike related or not) as they are most likely to have faults. b) going for brands/products where being an OEM has the highest likelihood of transferred skills and expertise (i.e. if you are buying a wheel, try and find out the name of the factory and whether they also make big brand wheels) c) going for brands that sell mostly or exclusively outside of China. These will be in price-competition with Western brands rather than the Domestic Chinese market - which means they can put more time/money into testing and QC whilst still delivering at a lower cost. A good way to spot these are if they are doing major sponsorships targeted at western consumers (e.g. Drive wheels sponsoring GCN). d) doing research on the Chinese domestic market. Not everything Chinese is a nameless mushroom branded product. China now has a large middle class consumer base and many are into cycling. Going for brands that are tried and true with Chinese domestic consumers is safer than nameless products.
"This means that Chinese manufacturers are by and large focusing heavily on the latest and greatest at the lowest prices. They will often aggressively cut costs by skip parts of the design and manufacturing process - rather than cut back on specs or increase prices to accommodate the cost of proper testing. "really ?? .....you mean... like Boeing?
@@eltribun Yep like Boeing but for different reasons. Boeing is in a duopoly (and in some areas a monopoly) so is incentivised to exercise that monopolistic power - i.e. you don't have anyone else to go to so I can do pretty much what I want to increase my profits. Chinese "chasing pack" companies do it to cut costs rather than increase margins to break into new markets and capture market share. Their more established competition (in the bike world Shimano, SRAM and Campag) can't afford to cut out testing and QC because they rely heavily on brand value and brand loyalty to act as barriers to entry to the market: right now a lot of riders won't touch Chinese group sets or wheels - but if the big three had high rates of failure, many would be tempted to try the cheaper alternative.
My aero40mm rim brake wheels arrived 5mm offset to the non drive side front and rear, ican said yes send them back we will sort it just pay for the postage 300nz$
A lot of the Chinese brands use both their steel, and ceramic bearings, and the reviews are good. I'll be getting them on the bike for the weekend, so watch this space!!
Sorry, Schlinkodonkofink!! I put the microphone on upside down by accident 😬. If you look closely, that light on the microphone should be on the top. Suspect the mic processor cranked the audio up to compensate. Won't make that mistake again!
I have been riding the ICAN wheels for about 5 years. I have the G25 (650) and G24 (700) carbon wheels with the D21 hubs. Both sets have been flawless running tubeless with the Schwalbe G-One tires.
I bought G24s a while ago. I didn't get free shipping at the time, but I didn't have to pay duties. Great wheels though. Are people actually getting free shipping these days?
I went on to their website, put in my UK address, and got a shipping quote. Shipping was £100, so not free, and whether they come from China or Europe, there will likely be duty and VAT, on both the purchase and the shipping. So suddenly the £512 wheels are over £700. So maybe £500 cheaper than equivalent Hunt wheels. Is that worth it? If they remain perfect, maybe, but in the event of a warranty claim?
I think these manufacturers are going to help lower (or hold back) prices from the big brands. Whenever I buy something, I compare the price difference to the quality difference. If something is triple the price, is it triple the quality.
What a dumb comment. It’s triple the price because the west already engineering, designed, and tested a working series of prototypes for years before China stole the IP and started selling it at shite quality. Schools collapse on children in China.
"5% more lovely."😂 As a rough guide of stuff we buy I think cheap is cheap, expensive is some bastard getting rich at our expense and mid price is about right.
I have driving the ICAN Aero 40 since 2022. I even had to send it to China, because of stiff hubs. After sending back, It was not better. Now DT Hubs and everything works well. I will buy ICAN never again.
It’s 100% designed by a Western manufacturer, and designed with QC in mind. Chinese manufacturers like ICAN just steal the designs from western companies and sell them in house.
People pushing Chinese brands are no different than people pushing "name brands". They all have an agenda that suits their biases. What's nice are folks who do objective reviews and leave out the biased crap. Sorry, dude. Your review is no different than anyone else's. You've got your agenda that informs your message. Your preaching is nauseating.
in the EU warehouse they have the G25 for 790 usd not 650. as well as having very little available (frames) and wheels. The 2 year warranty is good, but not great. other manufacturers guarantee even 5 years. P.s. their carbon frames have been out for a few years, there isn't much replacement
I’m 13,000km on a set of ICAN FL40s, setup tubeless with Conti GP5000 25mm. Bought on recommendation from a mate and they are fantastic - used for crits, road racing (with a handful of B-grade podiums) and local rides. Bearings are perfection, spokes have held tension and the supplied brake pads not only stop well but they still have plenty of meat left for probably another 13kkm. Would certainly vouch for ICAN quality.
Great to hear! Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
I bought a set of Light Bicycle wheels last year 45mm aero carbon with DT Swiss 240 hubs and sapim CX-Ray spokes. They are amazing and still very true! China rocks!
I've owned three sets of Aero 50 and 55 wheels from ICAN. incredible value. I've put thousands of miles on them. I have one of their frames too. Incredibly good for the $.
I agree, I'm very impressed with them
I picked up the Ican Aero Disc 40mm wheels with the Ican hubs and standard bearings. After about 750km they are running fine. However, I did order a ceramic bearing set for front and back and will be pressing those in this weekend for a few fractions of a watt savings 😅. The standard bearings after only 750km are actually showing very slight degradation which is maybe more my imagination than reality. I had the same impression about the rim tape. But, I’m running TPU so it wasn’t an issue as I had to pop in rim tape anyway. Which IMHO should have been included along with a few spikes and nipples. I also had the exact same impression about no grease under the caps. That was the first thing I did was run a smidge of grease in there. All and all very happy with my purchase. Keep the content flowing!
I'll be leaving the grease out, as I think this'll give an accurate test of what the customer will get. Glad you're enjoying the content 👍
What size bearings?
Love your videos! Great content presented with great vibes. A huge thank you!! 👍 Sending greetings from Berlin 💌
Hey Sven, Glad you’re enjoying the videos. Thanks for the Super Thanks, will get a coffee while testing the new wheels. Have already done one ride with them over the weekend, and they were very good. Noticed the difference straight away.
Have now started working on the video about the second pair, they’re pretty special road wheels. Hope to get it finished in the next few days 👍👍
@@ribblevalleycyclist At first I wasn't too much interested in chinese wheelsets but the way you walked through the details made me sit up and listen. Impressive especially as I ride ZIPP 454 NSW which are hookless and having now problems with them as the hookless sidewall of the fron wheel bends outward a bit over a length of approx. 20cm not holding the tire firmly enough. I got some wobble first and finally a blow off. Hope ZIPP will get me a new one on warranty.
In the meantime and as a spare I bought LEEZE, a rather small German manufacturer. They are hooked and with a much more narrow inner width. Anyway super stiff and comfortable.
I oftentimes refer to you videos when working on my bikes. Sensational! Excited to see what's coming up.
cheers☕☕
Thanks for clearing this up. I have bought the exact ICAN G25 Gravel Wheelset and have ridden them for over 8 months now with over 3 thousand miles and counting. I run them tubeless with 38mm tires and have been extremely pleased with their performance, reliability, and comfort. Definitely worth the price.
Glad I could help! Did my first ride on them over the weekend. 42 gravel miles on paths and canals. Really impressed with them, noticed the difference instantly.
GREAT ROAD WHEELS.
I bought the G25s 2 yrs ago and run Conti 30mm tubeless and run them for road on my groad bike. Light, super comfy and very fast and smooth. No issues at all.
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
I’m thinking of doing the same-g25 with 32mm road tires. Should create a nice aero fit. Still happy with yours?
Love them. Have now covered a lot of miles on them, they’re fantastic. Cleaned the bike earlier today, for a bit of Christmas break cycling, still look amazing
Yes 100%. I’d guess ~6000 kms on them. Still very true and bearings perfect. With 32s you have a plush ride - while not a heavy wheel they are intended for gravel and thus probably stronger than many road wheels of equivalent weight. Perfect if you’re a heavier rider. I’ve seen no aero testing but at 50mm with a rounded profile they tick the boxes properly. Go for it.
Thanks for the review. I learned a few things about wheel quality checks.
Glad it was helpful!
Good to have you back John, I missed your TH-cam videos.
Good to be back.... Plenty on the way!
I ran a set of their g25 rims on my last gravel bike for over a year. They were bomb proof and super light. Amazing customer service team at Ican. I can’t recommend them or Nextie enough as they have both been superb to work with.
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
Been running ICAN Alpha Pro 55s for a 7000kms now without a hitch. Fast, light (1500g) and reliable. Only minus is the braking on the wet (rim brake). Good value.
To be honest, that issue affects a lot of carbon rim brake wheels.
How do the 55mm feel over 18 to 20mph. I have 40mm now and love them. Thinking about moving to the 55mm
@@bobbywallace4225 IMO they are fast and I guess "they hold the speed very well".
But i wanna go faster and thinking about moving to 88mms
I used a G25 as a front wheel on my Creo ebike. It was fantastic with a 28mm continental GP5000 on it. I ran a 60mm thinner ICAN on the rear. It is a very fast combination.
I'm very impressed so far. 👍
The lack of spare spokes in this case is not a serious problem. Sapim CX Ray spokes are Belgian made and are widely available in the UK for around £2.50 each. On the other hand many Chinese wheel manufacturers use Pillar spokes, made in Taiwan and, by all accounts, pretty good quality. However, availability in the UK is extremely poor, especially for Pillar bladed spokes. As far as I know Pillar do not have a UK distributor.
Agreed. I’ve seen the Sapim on eBay for the price you say. And HUNT use Pillar, and they’re hard to find. Maybe that’s why they give you a few spare.
HE'S BACK!!!!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
Good to be back 👍
Well of course they’re gonna send you a wheelset that has gone through an extra thorough QA inspection since THEY KNOW you’re gonna review it on youtube 😄
Now now, userbeverage, you're just being cynical. 🤣
@@ribblevalleycyclist sadly that is what all companies do.doesnt matter if its Chinese or not.even when i was working in warehouse,managers were choosing best samples of products to send for testing
Bonjour, je découvre votre chaîne. Excellent travail ça change des youtubeurs qui testent mais sans vraiment tester le matériel. La on a vraiment quelque chose de plus concret et poussé dans l’examens des produits
I bought ICAN road wheels a few years ago, still going strong. Mine was missing an end cap...but they sent a replacement
Interesting. Did they send it quickly?
@@ribblevalleycyclist they did. But Im in Barbados so it took a while to get it
I own this wheelset and currently have 40mm tires on it. Of note, Pogačar used tubeless 28 mm Continental Grand Prix 5000S TRs on Enve SES 4.5 wheels with an internal width of 25mm when he won Strade Bianche. I plan to test some 28, 30, and 32mm tires on the G25s.
Have you used these with 30mm tyres? I’m interested if they’re work on road.
@@danielfrancis6900 Yes! I put a 30mm GP5000 on the front, 32 on the rear. The measured up about 32mm and 34mm. They felt great.
Have been running this for over 2yrs with 30mm gp5k. Solid purchase and no comparison at this price.
Can you tell if the decals are removeable? Prefer a clean look
Good mutha fn review, I’ve been skeptical until now , I’m also looking at the lung rapid set 650 b , I need a wheelset real bad , ICAN had sum when I emailed them but without logo , I’ll reach out to them again real fast for my all city super pro , currently have the hunts alloy version but are pretty decent imo .SUBSCRIBED
Glad you enjoyed it, and welcome onboard!! Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
Saying that though, I own 4 sets of HUNT, they're a good wheel.
Why should there be grease behind the endcap. That would just make a grinding paste whenever dust makes it past the seal. I have moved to not using greasing around the bearings, only when seating them, and had good results with that. Also wiping any excess is a good idea
Other manufacturers grease this area. A rubber O-ring will stop dirt and dust getting it, but not water. Therefore, you won't get a grinding paste. Water will eventually get into the bearing. Also, the vast majority of owners will not maintain this area.
Dear John, how do you find your truing stand? Looking for a replacement but can't afford the Park Tool versions. Not a full time wheelbuilder, just for regular repairs, thanks. Great video as always, enjoyed the follow-up too.
Hi Sharon,
I've used the Park one in the past. Park make some good tools, but I think this is one area where they're way off the mark when it comes to price.
This is the one I use, and I find it really good. Works with both QR, and thru-axle wheels, holds the wheel tight, and even has a third gauge to help you align warped brake disc rotors.
ebay.us/t5WlEK
Thank you very much for the information Jon.
My pleasure!
Hi,
Thank you very much for the interesting review.
A vulnerable point is how the attachment for the spokes in the rim is designed concerning whether the rim is reinforced and material quality to prevent corrosion. How is this taken care of on these wheels?
Hi Stein, Good question. The rim has a reinforced carbon layer running the full internal circumference of the wheel, this gives the reinforcement needed. The best thing to make spoke nipples out of is brass, but the problem with that is weights and cost. So aluminium nipples are used. The problem there is, you've got steel going into aluminium in a wet environment, so it's inviting galvanic corrosion. No manufacturer uses brass nipples, so they're all guilty of it. The way around the issue is carbon spokes, which is what has been used in my second wheel video.
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thanks!
Hey there :) Thanks for this lovley video. One tip for your video cutting technique. I think you should make more hard cuts in stead of using a blend effect. Its way more pleasing for the eyes.
Thanks for the tip! I do struggle with transitions if I'm honest. I'm not a creative person, so I do struggle with this part of my channel. I enjoy the process, but I just know I'm no good at it 🤣 I also find that since doing this, I watch TV in a different way! The other problem I have is talking to a camera doesn't come naturally to me, so I struggle with my lines, and pause a lot..... meaning I then need to cut it up a lot. I'll give the hard cut idea a go. Thanks.
Look forward to seeing you review after giving them a bit of welly! off to wrap my pliars in leccy tape :-)
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
Leccy tape...... now you're just being a cheapskate 🤣
So i'm building a carbon road bike, not really for gravel, and looking at the ICAN Alpha 52 Disc Pro 700C 30mm.. what do you think of them ?
Not tried those specific ones. I’ve watched other trusted TH-camrs talk about other wheels in the ICAN range, and it’s always been good. I remember Hambini looking at a set of ICAN road wheels, may be worth looking at that. For me though, I’d say ICAN is a good choice.
My G25 just arrived. Took the ICAN freehub off to grease the engagement a bit, so it isn't as loud. Now it won't slot back in. How did you do that? I tried twisting backwards and pushing, but that didn't work. Any help would be appreciated.
I know exactly what you mean. Wrap a bit of string around it, and that’ll pull the pawls in. Then just unwrap it, and push the freehub home.
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thanks for the quick reply. Took me a moment to figure out how to prevent the string from getting trapped above the pawls, but it worked in the end!
To be honest, I tend to use a zip tie, but that can often lead to bigger problems, so string is safer!!
Anybody know the import charges or if we have to pay VAT when buying these from China to UK
Can't find a weight limit for those. Would anyone know what it is?
Something I’ve asked them previously, here you go:
Hi Jon,
Our G25 rider weight limit is 130kg
@@ribblevalleycyclist Thank you!
Do you possibly intend to do a review of the 9velo g35 or g45 gravel bikes😉
I wanted to. I emailed them, but they didn’t reply.
Looking forward to your ride review. Maybe I missed it, did you mention warranty?
Done a few rides with them so far, I'm very impressed. Noticed the difference straight away.
No, I forgot! 2 Years. But may be worth reading the small print:
icancycling.com/pages/warranty-faq
Amazing to have found your channel, I’ve a grizl Al 7 and was hoping to buy a budget carbon wheels, waiting for your update on how you abuse it 🤭 in the next month , also a question, I have DT Swiss wheels, so what kind of hub to chose?
Glad I could help! Did my first ride on them over the weekend. 42 gravel miles on paths and canals. Really impressed with them, noticed the difference instantly.
The DT Swiss hub is very good, but if you're on a budget, and aren't either pro or clocking up serious miles, then the stock hub is more than adequate, just look after it, and use good bearings when they eventually wear out.
Nice review. I swore by these things for a long time. Maybe these new ones have improved. I blew up a couple of Light bicycle rims. Always at the eyelets. I decided to spend 1200 on Reserve wheels because they just replace them for life. They also reinforce the eyelet area with more layup.
Buying carbon wheels is a minefield!
@@ribblevalleycyclist haha.Good one.
What did you do about the wrong facing spoke? Do you leave it as is?
Just straighten it with a spoke key and spoke blade tool. Such a small adjustment shouldn't have a huge impact on tension.
Hopefully you're also going to review SuperTeam wheels. I've had a set for several years now and several thousand miles and they're still going strong. Braking surface, truing, they still look and ride fantastic. All for (I bought them on sale) for less than $300 for a set of 38mm.
Maybe 😉
@@ribblevalleycyclist I’ll keep an eye on your channel
another quality video
Much appreciated
You should try Elite,I have three sets road, TT, and gravel all faultless
Agreed, they’re good wheels. I asked them if they wanted to get involved in my Chinese triple review…….. unfortunately they didn’t reply.
@@ribblevalleycyclist they think they are big stuff now seeing as they sponsor gcn etc, more room for other players
Yeah, they're doing well, which is good.
I own Ican since 2017 (rim brake 38mm road set) . Had some issues with alluminum niples, replaced all niples for a rare/hard to find Alpina niples. Since, the wheelset is fine. But the aftersales is terrible: needed a replacement rim due a car hit and Ican initially refused to provide. After a long argue and insistance, Ican overpriced the replacement rim. So, there is no point acquiring a product if aftersale is terrible. Next time, my choice will be Elitewheels.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing your experience. Am in talks with Elitewheels.
Any review available yet on these wheels?
I stuck them on my gravel bike not long after making this video, and they’ve done a good few hundred miles now. They replaced a set of alloy HUNT gravel wheels.
I immediately noticed a difference when I first used them, the bike felt a lot more nimble. Overall I’m very impressed with them, they have made what was previously a bit of a tank feel a lot more like a regular road bike.
When I do eventually get around to making the follow-up video, it’ll be a very positive review. My suggestion to ICAN will be to consider updating the hubs to the now commonly used ratchet style hubs, and consider either lacquering or redesigning the decals, because if you scratch one, which I have done, they’re white underneath.
@@ribblevalleycyclist $670 for SRAM XDR + $190 shipping to Korea + $150 approx. import charges and now they’re over $1000. I can buy Roval terra C wheels for that with a lifetime warranty. So, not the bargain i originally thought.
@BikeLife154 This is the issue some are having, and will be a feedback point in my final review
Great review. Easy to ship to UK? Any hassle with customs?
What is the maximum rider weight for these rims
Good point! Their website doesn't quote this on the gravel wheels, but interestingly it does on their road wheels. Probably worth dropping them a quick email and asking.
One of my main concerns with buying direct from China is a lack of support in the states. I had an issue with my rear wheel recently, and was able to walk into my local shop and got it warrantied and had a new wheel in 7 days. Could not do that with the Chinese wheels. Now being low cost, could just buy a new one, but would not want to do that
For me, thats why I think this wheelset is good, because the components used are good quality (reducing problems), and spares can be obtained. The issue is buying Chinese wheels from brands that don't tell you what they're made from, and don't offer spares.
Can you review the EliteWheels Edge?
Does Elitewheels still make the Edge?
@@ribblevalleycyclist Yes! Bought some a few weeks ago.
@@Alonnnz They're not on their website as a current model. Did you buy them new from Elitewheels?
@@ribblevalleycyclist They are available on their Ali official store.
@@ribblevalleycyclist It keeps removing the comment where I try to say they are 'on a certain large Chinese online store' . That's where I bought them.
Best cycle video channel with no bull
Haha... Thanks, Kevin. Do try to keep it all down to earth.
No bull? The guy has a clear agenda. I really couldn't care less about his views on Chinese vs name brand products. Just looking for reviews, not holier-than-thou lecturing.
If you are going to buy Chinese you have to understand the mindset of Chinese manufacturers. It is a super aggressive market (for everything) where competition on price and novelty takes precedent over all else.
This means that Chinese manufacturers are by and large focusing heavily on the latest and greatest at the lowest prices. They will often aggressively cut costs by skip parts of the design and manufacturing process - rather than cut back on specs or increase prices to accommodate the cost of proper testing.
This is true for brands which make products for western companies as well - the companies contracting out to Chinese OEMs often do their own prototyping, design and testing. Even if they don't they pay more for high levels of QC.
This doesn't mean there is anything wrong with buying from China - you just have to be a much more "intelligent client". A lot of solid reputable brands exist alongside aliexpress no-name ones, but due to purchasing power parity differences between $ and the RMB (as well as lax IP laws) the Chinese stuff is still cheaper. You can get around the pitfalls by doing some or all of the below:
a) avoiding first generation products (whether bike related or not) as they are most likely to have faults.
b) going for brands/products where being an OEM has the highest likelihood of transferred skills and expertise (i.e. if you are buying a wheel, try and find out the name of the factory and whether they also make big brand wheels)
c) going for brands that sell mostly or exclusively outside of China. These will be in price-competition with Western brands rather than the Domestic Chinese market - which means they can put more time/money into testing and QC whilst still delivering at a lower cost. A good way to spot these are if they are doing major sponsorships targeted at western consumers (e.g. Drive wheels sponsoring GCN).
d) doing research on the Chinese domestic market. Not everything Chinese is a nameless mushroom branded product. China now has a large middle class consumer base and many are into cycling. Going for brands that are tried and true with Chinese domestic consumers is safer than nameless products.
"This means that Chinese manufacturers are by and large focusing heavily on the latest and greatest at the lowest prices. They will often aggressively cut costs by skip parts of the design and manufacturing process - rather than cut back on specs or increase prices to accommodate the cost of proper testing. "really ?? .....you mean... like Boeing?
@@eltribun Yep like Boeing but for different reasons. Boeing is in a duopoly (and in some areas a monopoly) so is incentivised to exercise that monopolistic power - i.e. you don't have anyone else to go to so I can do pretty much what I want to increase my profits.
Chinese "chasing pack" companies do it to cut costs rather than increase margins to break into new markets and capture market share. Their more established competition (in the bike world Shimano, SRAM and Campag) can't afford to cut out testing and QC because they rely heavily on brand value and brand loyalty to act as barriers to entry to the market: right now a lot of riders won't touch Chinese group sets or wheels - but if the big three had high rates of failure, many would be tempted to try the cheaper alternative.
My aero40mm rim brake wheels arrived 5mm offset to the non drive side front and rear, ican said yes send them back we will sort it just pay for the postage 300nz$
How are the S&S bearing compared to other brands like Enduro, SKF, NTN etc.?
A lot of the Chinese brands use both their steel, and ceramic bearings, and the reviews are good. I'll be getting them on the bike for the weekend, so watch this space!!
Very useful video, thankyou. Maybe too late to correct but: Componants Used should be Components Used
Surprisingly, you’re the only the second one to spot that 😂😂
Great video!!!
Thanks 👍
My left ear dislikes this video (listening on headphones). But my left thumb tapped “like” anyway.
Sorry, Schlinkodonkofink!! I put the microphone on upside down by accident 😬. If you look closely, that light on the microphone should be on the top. Suspect the mic processor cranked the audio up to compensate. Won't make that mistake again!
I have been riding the ICAN wheels for about 5 years. I have the G25 (650) and G24 (700) carbon wheels with the D21 hubs. Both sets have been flawless running tubeless with the Schwalbe G-One tires.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Are the logos stickers?
I bought G24s a while ago. I didn't get free shipping at the time, but I didn't have to pay duties. Great wheels though. Are people actually getting free shipping these days?
I went on to their website, put in my UK address, and got a shipping quote. Shipping was £100, so not free, and whether they come from China or Europe, there will likely be duty and VAT, on both the purchase and the shipping. So suddenly the £512 wheels are over £700. So maybe £500 cheaper than equivalent Hunt wheels. Is that worth it? If they remain perfect, maybe, but in the event of a warranty claim?
Great point but you can get 130 gbp for shipping with import duty already included
How could you miss the obvious pun!? "Why have I chosen ICAN first, because "I can" 😁
Yeah, missed a trick there 🤣
Looks Like you‘ve been to the heartland of Europe = Switzerland 👍🇨🇭👍
Lake Garda. Would love to go to Switzerland some day 👍
@@ribblevalleycyclist Should have had a closer look at the ferry - but absolutely nice and much better food and Café anyhow 🤘👍
@martinhotan8946 Hope to pass an opinion some day, if you know what I mean 👍
I think these manufacturers are going to help lower (or hold back) prices from the big brands. Whenever I buy something, I compare the price difference to the quality difference. If something is triple the price, is it triple the quality.
What a dumb comment. It’s triple the price because the west already engineering, designed, and tested a working series of prototypes for years before China stole the IP and started selling it at shite quality. Schools collapse on children in China.
I need a back wheel for my steel road bike it's super buckled 😊
Brilliant mate, look a nice wheel, might drop them a email myself 😊
Yeah, they're good!
"5% more lovely."😂
As a rough guide of stuff we buy I think cheap is cheap, expensive is some bastard getting rich at our expense and mid price is about right.
Good logic 👍
400 USD for delivery to the UK ?
Try looking in the EU warehouse section.
Compare to Scribe Inception 50d wheels........
The Scribe Inception 50d is a road wheel. The Scribe gravel wheel is hookless, which is something I'm not looking at right now.
Subscribing just for the tip with the pliers😂
What other reason would you have 😂😂😂😂
@@ribblevalleycyclist the amount of chewed up end caps! Great video thanks
Liked :)
Already subscribed;)
Been a sub for a while now 👍
I have driving the ICAN Aero 40 since 2022. I even had to send it to China, because of stiff hubs. After sending back, It was not better. Now DT Hubs and everything works well. I will buy ICAN never again.
Sorry I couldn’t help it at 14:36 you put up a graphic which said ‘Componants Used’ I know it’s picky but it’s ’Components’ 🤣😂
You know what, I spotted that, but forgot to go back and change it!!! It's the old age...... Think I need another holiday 🤣
@@ribblevalleycyclist 😁
Manufacturers send their best performers to youtube reviewers to make sure the review goes good. Do your own research.
I can dy
Ican not want any Chinese products
If its not been designed and quality controlled by a western manufacturer, I dont tŕust a Chinese wheel.
cool story bro
Which western "manufacturer" has their own factory?
It’s 100% designed by a Western manufacturer, and designed with QC in mind. Chinese manufacturers like ICAN just steal the designs from western companies and sell them in house.
People pushing Chinese brands are no different than people pushing "name brands". They all have an agenda that suits their biases. What's nice are folks who do objective reviews and leave out the biased crap. Sorry, dude. Your review is no different than anyone else's. You've got your agenda that informs your message. Your preaching is nauseating.
Thanks for your feedback. I don't actually have an agenda, other than giving an honest opinion on what is put before me.
in the EU warehouse they have the G25 for 790 usd not 650.
as well as having very little available (frames) and wheels. The 2 year warranty is good, but not great. other manufacturers guarantee even 5 years.
P.s. their carbon frames have been out for a few years, there isn't much replacement