Some people binge watch shows on Netflix. I binge watch Dr. Dan's Voice Essentials. Yet another amazing video that somehow made a concept I have struggled with for years so simple and concise.
"Sound like an owl on crack" Yes, I'm serious. That's my voice teachers metaphor about singing with an open throat. I think it's working, 'cause I definitely sound like a sick owl...
I sing in a choir and one of the directs was explaining voice placement to me and this was very helpful in getting a fuller understanding. Thank you so much.
My teacher told me to sit like a dog, then pant like a dog, then he told me to stand with my hands against a wall and push like i were taking a shit. Then i were put on some vibrating bed, which would 'massage my lungs' while i did some breathing exercises. After roughly 7 lessons that cost a fucking big pile of money, i had learned nothing, and i stopped showing up for lessons .. ! *This is what truly happened!*
My teacher didn't use an unusual way to describe how to do forward placement, but at the moment we're working on my transitions combined with forward placement and what she said regarding vocal cracking in my transition area was hilarious, she told me that it's ok to sound like Tarzan for a while just as long as I'm keeping my air flowing out fully.
Your channel has been so helpful! I have been seeing a speech therapist (following vocal chord granuloma surgery), but they don’t seem knowledgeable about working with singers. Even though I have quite a bit to go, just wanted to send a big thank you for all your help 🙏🏾
I've been trying in years to sing with my guitar but no luck. By watching you and Freya I learned to train my vocal and been successful in just a short time. I accidentally came across your channel when you had a one-on-one interview with Freya. More power to you!
I am an amateur opera and Art Song singer, and I really enjoy your awesome tips! Forward resonance can be pretty hard to maintain with a totally open throat (tightening in the muscles is such a huge problem for me...) and I've found the exercise you demonstrate here to be extremely helpful. I'm having some trouble transitioning from chest voice to head voice, so I'll watch your video on that, too! There's so much confusing and conflicting information on opera singing. You're very straightforward, though. Thanks for that!! ;D
***** You're welcome! You break the art of singing down very well. Ive heard some interesting metaphors and similes regarding placement, myself, but I don't need metaphors. Lol! I need to know how to use my vocal muscles, abdominal and chest included! Ha ha! Great work, my friend! Thanks for your hard work. :D
Hey Dr. Dan wanted to say thanks for all the wonderful, information packed videos. I've really improved in a very short amount of time! Been singing too often now in fact lol. Got some swollen chords. You've made singing so fun it's hard to take a day off lol. Thanks Dan.
Claudia Jordan… four years. But many years ago. You are an extension and I have been looking for you!!!! I need a refresher course. I’m so happy to have found you.
Hi, Allison von Buelow. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
Hi Dan, Thanks for this lesson! Patsy Rodenburg advises to speak "above the eye line". What helps me is to imagine a line just above my eyes and then aim for that when i speak. Having an Oktavist/True Bass type of voice, this imagery really helps my spoken voice move almost 4 octaves up! Improves melody naturally and makes me more understandable to others. Love your work Dan! Cheers & greetings from Melbourne! Daniel Avinash
Dear Dr. Dan, Thank you for being very generous in giving us further information about singing. I am currently taking up voice lessons but a lot of topics, because of limited time, are not explained thoroughly so I'm just very glad to run across your videos and I get to review and understand fully what I've learned. Thank you very much and please don't get tired doing these.
Hi, La La Lauren. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
It’s amazing to me how I can do the exercise properly when I hear you doing it and I’m doing it along with you, but when I’m on my own I just can’t seem to do it right anymore.
I, too, like to sing art songs and arias. There seems, to me, that there is also a head space where placement feels like it is resonating from the cranium... of course that is just imagery, but it tends to produce an open sound in the higher part of my range... up to a high A... I am a tenor but if I try to sing higher, I tense up. I will try bending my knees next, which I learned in another of your videos. Thank you for all the help you have given me.
Hey Dr. Dan, thanks a lot for all those videos you put here on youtube. They do help a lot! I got a question though about forward placement. What exactly happens anatomically to create those different resonances? I'm currently trying to play around a bit with my voice to see what is possible (like trying to see how it sounds if I try and keep TA dominant when going high or CT dominant when going low, so I get better sense of how to produce different qualities in my voice when wanted or needed), so I wonder how would one go and create different resonances and what is even possible that is independent of other stuff the singer can/should do (like twang or CT/TA muscles). Thanks again for all the content, hope you find the time for a quick answer :)
Thanks! Good explanation. Yeah, this topic can confuse many of us because it describes a metaphorical feeling that is very subjective. The weirdest I heard is a teacher saying he almost can feel the voice at the back of his head as if wanting to get out at the back if he has a mouth at the back.. 😂 my goodness, that convoluted my brain 😆. In my lifetime, I never experienced such sensation either when talking or singing.. so I felt a bit insecure that why I don’t feel that way. Maybe I’m doing it wrong. So there’s that real disconnect.. it is very subjective feeling.😅
I can't get my placement and support to work together. If I place my sound forward, my throat constricts and there isn't a smooth transition between bridges. if I open up my throat and get a more hollow feeling down in the chest cavity, my sound gets too airy and heavy to do anything with it. any tips?
My instructor told me to make sure the sinus cavities vibrate or atleast the nose, though it would sound nasally, I have a harder time feeling that with falsetto and head voice. She sound make it like you are singing through the nose, but the sound comes from the mouth.
Hey Dr. Dan, thanks for your videos, hey're amazing. At the end of the last course I had problems with my voice getting breathy when it had never happened to me before. It seamed like I was recovering when I had to be a monitor for a summercamp for two weeks and i had to sing almost every day. Three weeks later my voice still don't recovers and feels very breathy. I can only sing high if i mix a lot with head voice but then the voice becomes even breathier. Do you think practicing this exercice over here will help me?
I told you previously that due to a mouth cancer, I cannot sing full volumes for 2-3 months after therapy ends. Can you suggest some gentle exercises that I can do to prepare for the time I can sing out.
Dr Dan's Voice Essentials my mouth is capable of all movement. the soreness is along the jawline and the radiation is below that, maybe 3 cm in width. Also, my vocal folds were nowhere near the treatment. I have a member of my choir, a magnificent bass, who is a head and neck surgeon, so I am getting multiple opinions.
Hello! Could you please make a video explaining how to place the HEAD voice in the mask?? I mean, mask-placed head voice, so that it gets a richer tone, thanks!!
Hello! I know about the twang, but.. does it has to do with the head voice placed in the mask? I mean, singing in pure head voice with a bit of chest, singers like “Mitch grassi” from pentatonix use that technique, I would like to know how to develop it.. but I don’t know how twang can help
Hey Dan how do I keep my voice in the mask as I go higher? Cause on some words my voice goes back in my throat and some words in stays in the mask.. Why doesn't my voice stay in one place like most singers?
hey dan i have a question 2 years ago i needed to go to the hospital for cheking my voice and they said i was hoarsenes or something like that i didnt got a infection but the doctor said dont say anything for 10 days and for 6 days i didnt said one word but the last 4 days i talked and i asked the doctor if i could still sing he said no what should i do now im 12 and i my voice didnt got in puberty could you help ??
Teacher .. I want to sing like belting with resonance.. Example like amore philipines idol, rachel lampa when she hit the note of blessed song i heard she was using resonance belting, and singer barbra streisand.. How to do that ?.. Looking forwrd for your reply, thank u very much. I come indonesia, i am a singer. I need to know about all of placement techinque vocal.
Hi, Grace Tanya S. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
I tried this. can i post a video to you to ask if you this is right. I feel my lips vibrating and teeth feeling vibration. is that right? also my voice sounds like brandy (pop singer) when I sing yaah yaah, like to encourage chord closure, it sounds like her. then when I sing it do. can we sound like other singers sometime? or similar in some way? can I post a video to you? I keep feeling like my old lesson from teacher they kept making sing in chest voice and not in mix voice so it wasn't doing nothing for chord closure. I am trying to sing forward and have better chord closure to.
‘Placement’ may be a bad term if taking to mean the sound is somehow generated in the mask, but is it no accurate in terms of feeling resonance in that general area or slightly back from it?
BXBeastBoy By soft, the people you have been talking to probably mean breathy. It’s something I personally have been struggling with in singing. Don’t try to make your voice scratchy or deeper, singing in your mask makes your singing clearer and therfore ‘less soft’. I hope this helps. :)
Dr dan this forward placement how can i use this in a song only in a high notes ?or in a whole song?plsss help me and thank you so much🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome, doc! Actually I have more problems when I'm going to switch the placement of the voice of the mask for more on top, on high resonance, for higher notes. It's hard to relieve tension and maintain the voice "piano".
Hi Dr Dan, thanks for the video, I really wished I watched this when I first began singing. I'd like to mention though that I actually suffer from Muscle Tension Dysphonia (I've watched your other video about it too) and what happens with the condition is that sitting on my throat (metaphorically) hurts like crazy so I documented myself including the tongue positions, the lips, teeth, vowels, consonants, notes, etc helped me understand this placement. Experimenting throughout the day and what you mentioned is exactly what I do! But because of this condition, do you think I might have learned a lesson from it? I know it might sound weird but do you think that this condition is actually teaching me how to properly project my sound, pronounce lyrics, and to sing properly, etc? I prefer your answer because you know so much and I trust you with opinions than anyone else on TH-cam. Thanks again, looking forward to your reply!
Thank you for your answer. I also have vocal nodules on top of it so it will be a long and harsh journey for me in addition to relearning the correct coordination and developing motor skills from it. Your channel really exaggerates the importance of vocal health, so thank you for spreading the awareness. I had a good voice until I yelled and trained like I was 'on tour'.
OMG! how can people sing with backward placement! It hurt me to do that. Yikes! I guess i have learned from the beginning to place my tongue touching my front lower teeth, has trained me not to roll my tongue backwards.
If it hurt, you're doing it wrong (although it's absolutely right that you should leave the tongue to sit in a forward position). You have to sing extremely lightly on single notes throughout your range with a kind of moaning quality - which opens the backspace - and then on sirens. Brightness - the so-called forward placement - comes with an open, relaxed throat, not by trying to manufacture brightness with nasality which is usually what happens with the admonition to forward-placement. The singer's ring is a laryngeal event, although it can be felt in the face and behind the eyes (when singing louder and when you're good at it). It feels and sounds very bright at higher volumes compared to the level initially required to develop co-ordination but at that low level, it isn't so bright. Over time, it becomes intuitive to "lean-in" to those initially rather dull notes with more volume as they become secured and the ring starts to emerge. Even when teachers recognise the distinction between mask (sympathetic vibration of the face) and nasality - which they often do not - they usually fail to emphasise this distinction in their instruction. Dr Dan doesn't demonstrate good back placement in this video, so it's a bit of a straw-man: decent forward placement IS superior to terrible backwards placement with the tongue pulled back and the larynx clamped. I ruined my voice singing with nasal resonance and subsequently rebuilt it by aiming the sound into a deeper, more pharyngeal place and I've seen the same pattern emerge with my students. This is my experience but it's also the finding of a couple of studies (Titze and another by Sundberg if I recall) that nasal resonance plays no significant role in healthy singing.
I acknowledge that Dr Dan doesn't suggest that we should sing with nasality. I'm just saying that, to an untrained singer, it's not a sufficiently clear distinction and it's one that ought to be made. Because the most obvious interpretation of the instruction is to use some degree of nasality.
I tried the exercise but why do I feel the buzzing in my nasal cavity instead of my lips? Am I doing something wrong? I know when I talk that my voice is also nasally which I'm trying to learn how to fix. At the same time I'm trying to improve my singing voice. Thank you for any help you can offer me and I love your videos.
Thank you! I really appreciate your reply. Now that I think of it I haven't learned how to raise my soft palette yet. I will watch the video after I get some sleep and I'll let you know how it goes. :)
why do I hit f4 in a nga sound..I can't hit d4 up without it being weak and airy in the ahh sound..I always sing in the evening cause that is when my voice shifts range... in the morning a2-c4 in the evening c3 to f4 is that even normal?
Ultimately, there is no 'right or wrong!' However, I do recommend developing a habitual forward placement because it is far more efficient over the long run.
I had a teacher tell me to think of singing out of a unicorn horn, but she told us a story of one of her instructors told her to sing like there was a drill in her head with blood spurting out
Dear Dr. Dan, thanks for your very nice video, elucidating several aspects of "vocal placement", explaining it as an image, rather than an acoustical phenomenon, used for pedagogical purposes. Could you please explain if the term MASK is also an image (related to vibrational sensations in the face) or a concrete anatomical structure, as so many people assume ? In other words, since it appears that contemporary scientific knowledge neglects the role of the sinuses as effective sound resonators, how could the MASK be justified ? Thanks !!
Thanks a lot, Dr Dan. I teach music acoustics at the university (in Brazil) and studied with prof. Sundberg in Sweden, who has produced a lot of scientific knowledge about singing voice. I fully agree with you, and congratulate for your wise and artistic contribution to voice teaching. I think that it is important to distinguish a "Symbolic Image" from a physical phenomenon. From what you say and from what I got in other sources, I would describe the "mask" as the "sensitive and vibrating structure of the face" in voice production. Interestingly, I recently learned that the word PERSONAGE originates from "per"+"sonare" , referring to the sounding of the voice in the mask (from ancient theatrical drama) ... All the best!
Some people binge watch shows on Netflix. I binge watch Dr. Dan's Voice Essentials. Yet another amazing video that somehow made a concept I have struggled with for years so simple and concise.
I'm glad you're enjoying my videos, The Wooducation Network. Thanks for watching.
no matter wether forward placement really exist or not the visualisation helps. I'm working hard to improve. This video is a good advice for me.
Thanks for uploading, Dr. Dan!
"Sound like an owl on crack"
Yes, I'm serious. That's my voice teachers metaphor about singing with an open throat.
I think it's working, 'cause I definitely sound like a sick owl...
😂😂😂
I sing in a choir and one of the directs was explaining voice placement to me and this was very helpful in getting a fuller understanding. Thank you so much.
My teacher told me to sit like a dog, then pant like a dog, then he told me to stand with my hands against a wall and push like i were taking a shit. Then i were put on some vibrating bed, which would 'massage my lungs' while i did some breathing exercises.
After roughly 7 lessons that cost a fucking big pile of money, i had learned nothing, and i stopped showing up for lessons .. ! *This is what truly happened!*
That teacher seems like they shouldn't have been a teacher. You wasted money, I feel bad for you.
My teacher didn't use an unusual way to describe how to do forward placement, but at the moment we're working on my transitions combined with forward placement and what she said regarding vocal cracking in my transition area was hilarious, she told me that it's ok to sound like Tarzan for a while just as long as I'm keeping my air flowing out fully.
LOL. Yes, it can sound a bit like Tarzan!
She’s a gem
Your channel has been so helpful! I have been seeing a speech therapist (following vocal chord granuloma surgery), but they don’t seem knowledgeable about working with singers. Even though I have quite a bit to go, just wanted to send a big thank you for all your help 🙏🏾
You are more than welcome, BassetStudios!
My teacher says to place every note gently on a cloud lol
Thank you so much that you clear out the mask technique!!
I've been trying in years to sing with my guitar but no luck. By watching you and Freya I learned to train my vocal and been successful in just a short time. I accidentally came across your channel when you had a one-on-one interview with Freya. More power to you!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video NoNames 777. Thanks for watching.
NoNames 777 I definitely agree bro. FREYA is an excellent vocal coach!
If you really want to develop your voice check out my comprehensive singing course for beginners - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons
I am an amateur opera and Art Song singer, and I really enjoy your awesome tips! Forward resonance can be pretty hard to maintain with a totally open throat (tightening in the muscles is such a huge problem for me...) and I've found the exercise you demonstrate here to be extremely helpful. I'm having some trouble transitioning from chest voice to head voice, so I'll watch your video on that, too! There's so much confusing and conflicting information on opera singing. You're very straightforward, though. Thanks for that!! ;D
***** You're welcome! You break the art of singing down very well. Ive heard some interesting metaphors and similes regarding placement, myself, but I don't need metaphors. Lol! I need to know how to use my vocal muscles, abdominal and chest included! Ha ha! Great work, my friend! Thanks for your hard work. :D
Hey Dr. Dan wanted to say thanks for all the wonderful, information packed videos. I've really improved in a very short amount of time! Been singing too often now in fact lol. Got some swollen chords. You've made singing so fun it's hard to take a day off lol. Thanks Dan.
Wow, that tongue position is really something!
Claudia Jordan… four years. But many years ago. You are an extension and I have been looking for you!!!! I need a refresher course. I’m so happy to have found you.
Hi, Allison von Buelow. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
Hi Dan,
Thanks for this lesson! Patsy Rodenburg advises to speak "above the eye line". What helps me is to imagine a line just above my eyes and then aim for that when i speak. Having an Oktavist/True Bass type of voice, this imagery really helps my spoken voice move almost 4 octaves up! Improves melody naturally and makes me more understandable to others.
Love your work Dan!
Cheers & greetings from Melbourne!
Daniel Avinash
Dear Dr. Dan,
Thank you for being very generous in giving us further information about singing. I am currently taking up voice lessons but a lot of topics, because of limited time, are not explained thoroughly so I'm just very glad to run across your videos and I get to review and understand fully what I've learned. Thank you very much and please don't get tired doing these.
I have the same hat.
I'm so sorry to hear that I hope things get better for you ❤
L
Condolences
You have impeccable style 😏🙂
I discovered if i humm and rapidly move my tongue forward and back i sound like pac man
This checks out
Colton Ruscheinsky i second this
Ooooo...so mch more control on the vowel - thanks, Dr Dan
Thank you! I have a choir background, so I have a deep sound, and I want to do theatre, so I need to learn to sing forward and with a brighter sound.
Hi, La La Lauren. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
It’s amazing to me how I can do the exercise properly when I hear you doing it and I’m doing it along with you, but when I’m on my own I just can’t seem to do it right anymore.
I'm a singer but I'm here to learn how to push my voice forward to improve my Korean pronunciation.
I, too, like to sing art songs and arias. There seems, to me, that there is also a head space where placement feels like it is resonating from the cranium... of course that is just imagery, but it tends to produce an open sound in the higher part of my range... up to a high A... I am a tenor but if I try to sing higher, I tense up. I will try bending my knees next, which I learned in another of your videos. Thank you for all the help you have given me.
I’m watching 7years later. Thank you for this
You're welcome
I been practicing tip and I realize, I was hum in back of mouth. now my voice crispier. great singing tip!
you actually have a beautiful singing voice, very delicious bright tone
Dan! so far, you're the best for me!
Very kind. Thank you.
Without sounding like I'm bragging I can only do every thing with forward tongue placement due to a tongue tie #blessed :P
Hey Dr. Dan, thanks a lot for all those videos you put here on youtube. They do help a lot! I got a question though about forward placement. What exactly happens anatomically to create those different resonances? I'm currently trying to play around a bit with my voice to see what is possible (like trying to see how it sounds if I try and keep TA dominant when going high or CT dominant when going low, so I get better sense of how to produce different qualities in my voice when wanted or needed), so I wonder how would one go and create different resonances and what is even possible that is independent of other stuff the singer can/should do (like twang or CT/TA muscles).
Thanks again for all the content, hope you find the time for a quick answer :)
Robin, the following video may prove helpful - th-cam.com/video/GkLV8FVQcek/w-d-xo.html
This one might also help - th-cam.com/video/UkNDBQmEMSY/w-d-xo.html
Awesome! Thank you so much for the response! :)
You're welcome Robin. Thanks for watching.
Thanks! Good explanation. Yeah, this topic can confuse many of us because it describes a metaphorical feeling that is very subjective. The weirdest I heard is a teacher saying he almost can feel the voice at the back of his head as if wanting to get out at the back if he has a mouth at the back.. 😂 my goodness, that convoluted my brain 😆. In my lifetime, I never experienced such sensation either when talking or singing.. so I felt a bit insecure that why I don’t feel that way. Maybe I’m doing it wrong.
So there’s that real disconnect.. it is very subjective feeling.😅
I'm glad you enjoyed the video onzkicg. Thanks for watching.
Now I understand mask well! Thanks!
Happy to help!
How can I make sure to have forward placement while also resonating of the soft palate which is in the back of the mouth?
I can't get my placement and support to work together. If I place my sound forward, my throat constricts and there isn't a smooth transition between bridges. if I open up my throat and get a more hollow feeling down in the chest cavity, my sound gets too airy and heavy to do anything with it. any tips?
dmikmusic, the following video about mix voice may prove helpful - th-cam.com/video/Kpyu_CbVRLg/w-d-xo.html
My instructor told me to make sure the sinus cavities vibrate or atleast the nose, though it would sound nasally, I have a harder time feeling that with falsetto and head voice. She sound make it like you are singing through the nose, but the sound comes from the mouth.
This video about Twang might explain a few things for you - th-cam.com/video/9FX49_AbcyY/w-d-xo.html
Hey Dr. Dan, thanks for your videos, hey're amazing. At the end of the last course I had problems with my voice getting breathy when it had never happened to me before. It seamed like I was recovering when I had to be a monitor for a summercamp for two weeks and i had to sing almost every day. Three weeks later my voice still don't recovers and feels very breathy. I can only sing high if i mix a lot with head voice but then the voice becomes even breathier. Do you think practicing this exercice over here will help me?
Alright mate, I'm sold. Just subscribed.
A compliment that I sing in the mask led me here.
I told you previously that due to a mouth cancer, I cannot sing full volumes for 2-3 months after therapy ends. Can you suggest some gentle exercises that I can do to prepare for the time I can sing out.
Dr Dan's Voice Essentials my mouth is capable of all movement. the soreness is along the jawline and the radiation is below that, maybe 3 cm in width. Also, my vocal folds were nowhere near the treatment. I have a member of my choir, a magnificent bass, who is a head and neck surgeon, so I am getting multiple opinions.
amazinggg !! subscribed
You are one of the Best to describe the voice...Thank you
thank you! I will practice this! :D
True I think the forward placement is the hard thing to do for me
The best I have ever got. Gratias
I love your videos men, never stop
I'm glad you enjoyed the video Writer4 Dingy. Thanks for watching.
Hello! Could you please make a video explaining how to place the HEAD voice in the mask?? I mean, mask-placed head voice, so that it gets a richer tone, thanks!!
Felix, I think you will benefit from twang when developing a head voice placement. Watch this - th-cam.com/video/9FX49_AbcyY/w-d-xo.html
Hello! I know about the twang, but.. does it has to do with the head voice placed in the mask? I mean, singing in pure head voice with a bit of chest, singers like “Mitch grassi” from pentatonix use that technique, I would like to know how to develop it.. but I don’t know how twang can help
Hey Dan how do I keep my voice in the mask as I go higher? Cause on some words my voice goes back in my throat and some words in stays in the mask.. Why doesn't my voice stay in one place like most singers?
Do you best to keep the voice forward by making subtle adjustments to your breath pressure. The high you go, the less pressure you will need.
Aw man, this helped me! Thanks!!😵🎤🎵🎶🎼
Is my mask placement supposed to change as my voice get higher?
***** As my voice gets higher my placement goes strait to the back of my throat
Bryant Williams that probably means your pushing your voice and should work to pull your placement back forward:)
This was prob the best video tht explains this thank u sm!
Dr Dan's Voice Essentials do u think u can teach us how to do riffs when singing?
hey dan i have a question 2 years ago i needed to go to the hospital for cheking my voice and they said i was hoarsenes or something like that i didnt got a infection but the doctor said dont say anything for 10 days and for 6 days i didnt said one word but the last 4 days i talked and i asked the doctor if i could still sing he said no what should i do now im 12 and i my voice didnt got in puberty
could you help ??
Teacher .. I want to sing like belting with resonance.. Example like amore philipines idol, rachel lampa when she hit the note of blessed song i heard she was using resonance belting, and singer barbra streisand.. How to do that ?.. Looking forwrd for your reply, thank u very much. I come indonesia, i am a singer. I need to know about all of placement techinque vocal.
Hi, Grace Tanya S. You may find my online singing course helpful - drdan.co/onlinesinginglessons. Feel free to check it out sometime. The first module is free to preview!
PLAICEMENT
I tried this. can i post a video to you to ask if you this is right. I feel my lips vibrating and teeth feeling vibration. is that right? also my voice sounds like brandy (pop singer) when I sing yaah yaah, like to encourage chord closure, it sounds like her. then when I sing it do. can we sound like other singers sometime? or similar in some way? can I post a video to you? I keep feeling like my old lesson from teacher they kept making sing in chest voice and not in mix voice so it wasn't doing nothing for chord closure. I am trying to sing forward and have better chord closure to.
I love your tutorial 😘
I'm glad you enjoyed the video BENALOGY. Thanks for watching.
‘Placement’ may be a bad term if taking to mean the sound is somehow generated in the mask, but is it no accurate in terms of feeling resonance in that general area or slightly back from it?
Placement is a term I continue to use in my teaching studio.
Very helpful thank you
I was told my voice was too soft "I needed to make my voice tougher". Is this what he meant?
BXBeastBoy
By soft, the people you have been talking to probably mean breathy. It’s something I personally have been struggling with in singing.
Don’t try to make your voice scratchy or deeper, singing in your mask makes your singing clearer and therfore ‘less soft’.
I hope this helps. :)
@@hannahocaya8055 it really did
Dr dan this forward placement how can i use this in a song only in a high notes ?or in a whole song?plsss help me and thank you so much🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Awesome, doc!
Actually I have more problems when I'm going to switch the placement of the voice of the mask for more on top, on high resonance, for higher notes. It's hard to relieve tension and maintain the voice "piano".
thank you for helping :)
That's a very great exercise!
Thankyou so much.. but i still confuse how to use the headvoice, cause i still feel uncomfortable with my vocal chords.
when you sing are you supposed use thin folds instead of thick folds?
When I do the hum can I hum in different vowels?Is it possible?
Kermit⬅️--opera-----choir----theatre---➡️Axl Rose
Hi Dr Dan, thanks for the video, I really wished I watched this when I first began singing. I'd like to mention though that I actually suffer from Muscle Tension Dysphonia (I've watched your other video about it too) and what happens with the condition is that sitting on my throat (metaphorically) hurts like crazy so I documented myself including the tongue positions, the lips, teeth, vowels, consonants, notes, etc helped me understand this placement. Experimenting throughout the day and what you mentioned is exactly what I do! But because of this condition, do you think I might have learned a lesson from it? I know it might sound weird but do you think that this condition is actually teaching me how to properly project my sound, pronounce lyrics, and to sing properly, etc?
I prefer your answer because you know so much and I trust you with opinions than anyone else on TH-cam. Thanks again, looking forward to your reply!
Thank you for your answer. I also have vocal nodules on top of it so it will be a long and harsh journey for me in addition to relearning the correct coordination and developing motor skills from it. Your channel really exaggerates the importance of vocal health, so thank you for spreading the awareness. I had a good voice until I yelled and trained like I was 'on tour'.
Im here to improve my speaking voice
FusionZero, the following video about speaking well may prove helpful - th-cam.com/video/Fqol6cQ5Mp8/w-d-xo.html
I LIKE MY SOUND BACK BUT FREE, LIKE A PING PONG BALL ON WATER.
Really helpful. Thank you
You're welcome The Self-Worth Habit. Thanks for watching.
I can't seem to get the "buzz" or resonance in my lower register. How could I do this?
Try to sing with 'less' air pressure.
Thank you sir
This was IT for me :D
Stereo...what was 'IT' for you?
OMG! how can people sing with backward placement! It hurt me to do that. Yikes! I guess i have learned from the beginning to place my tongue touching my front lower teeth, has trained me not to roll my tongue backwards.
If it hurt, you're doing it wrong (although it's absolutely right that you should leave the tongue to sit in a forward position). You have to sing extremely lightly on single notes throughout your range with a kind of moaning quality - which opens the backspace - and then on sirens. Brightness - the so-called forward placement - comes with an open, relaxed throat, not by trying to manufacture brightness with nasality which is usually what happens with the admonition to forward-placement. The singer's ring is a laryngeal event, although it can be felt in the face and behind the eyes (when singing louder and when you're good at it). It feels and sounds very bright at higher volumes compared to the level initially required to develop co-ordination but at that low level, it isn't so bright. Over time, it becomes intuitive to "lean-in" to those initially rather dull notes with more volume as they become secured and the ring starts to emerge.
Even when teachers recognise the distinction between mask (sympathetic vibration of the face) and nasality - which they often do not - they usually fail to emphasise this distinction in their instruction. Dr Dan doesn't demonstrate good back placement in this video, so it's a bit of a straw-man: decent forward placement IS superior to terrible backwards placement with the tongue pulled back and the larynx clamped.
I ruined my voice singing with nasal resonance and subsequently rebuilt it by aiming the sound into a deeper, more pharyngeal place and I've seen the same pattern emerge with my students.
This is my experience but it's also the finding of a couple of studies (Titze and another by Sundberg if I recall) that nasal resonance plays no significant role in healthy singing.
I acknowledge that Dr Dan doesn't suggest that we should sing with nasality. I'm just saying that, to an untrained singer, it's not a sufficiently clear distinction and it's one that ought to be made. Because the most obvious interpretation of the instruction is to use some degree of nasality.
Dr Dan. I’ve never been able to do this. And when I sing e sound it’s actually painful. Any thoughts
Kenneth Desmond Mosley, the following video may prove helpful - th-cam.com/video/y1R7lccJGfY/w-d-xo.html
get a vocal coach my guy lol
I tried the exercise but why do I feel the buzzing in my nasal cavity instead of my lips? Am I doing something wrong? I know when I talk that my voice is also nasally which I'm trying to learn how to fix. At the same time I'm trying to improve my singing voice. Thank you for any help you can offer me and I love your videos.
Thank you! I really appreciate your reply. Now that I think of it I haven't learned how to raise my soft palette yet. I will watch the video after I get some sleep and I'll let you know how it goes. :)
I kind of place my voice part where the uvula is located or the hard pallet when I sing higher than my chest voice. Is that correct?
It's not a matter of what is right or wrong. It's more about what feels best for you and sounds best for your audience.
why do I hit f4 in a nga sound..I can't hit d4 up without it being weak and airy in the ahh sound..I always sing in the evening cause that is when my voice shifts range...
in the morning
a2-c4
in the evening
c3 to f4
is that even normal?
I can hit d4 to g4 now(almost)
Did whitney houston use forward placement.
Whitney did employ forward placement. I dare say she did so intuitively.
Can I also get a forward placement when using an "Ng"?
NG can be helpful in establishing a forward placement. But you must use a siNG as opposed to a suNG.
Hi Dr. Dan, I’ve always been told that when singing I should send my voice towards the soft palate “ back of the mouth “. Is that incorrect ?
Ultimately, there is no 'right or wrong!' However, I do recommend developing a habitual forward placement because it is far more efficient over the long run.
@@DrDanRobinson forward placement even on high notes?
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Hi, I experience that my voice placement changes througout the song. How can I control my tongue placement whitout being paranoic?
Thank you. I feel the end of my tongue going up, specially in high notes. I will try the exercise you proposed.
@@amancot how did you do it?
What's the difference of head resonance and heady mix?
Seo Ken Ken, the following video about vocal registers may prove helpful - th-cam.com/video/CAGR81QFIj0/w-d-xo.html
I had a teacher tell me to think of singing out of a unicorn horn, but she told us a story of one of her instructors told her to sing like there was a drill in her head with blood spurting out
Can someone simplify this?
What if I'm Asian?
Where can I find a video of you actually singing a song ?
Here are a few - th-cam.com/video/P8WMTv6tV0Q/w-d-xo.html
vocal plicement
3:23 for daily use
hi can you help me in my resonance
Dear Dr. Dan, thanks for your very nice video, elucidating several aspects of "vocal placement", explaining it as an image, rather than an acoustical phenomenon, used for pedagogical purposes.
Could you please explain if the term MASK is also an image (related to vibrational sensations in the face) or a concrete anatomical structure, as so many people assume ?
In other words, since it appears that contemporary scientific knowledge neglects the role of the sinuses as effective sound resonators, how could the MASK be justified ?
Thanks !!
Thanks a lot, Dr Dan. I teach music acoustics at the university (in Brazil) and studied with prof. Sundberg in Sweden, who has produced a lot of scientific knowledge about singing voice. I fully agree with you, and congratulate for your wise and artistic contribution to voice teaching.
I think that it is important to distinguish a "Symbolic Image" from a physical phenomenon. From what you say and from what I got in other sources, I would describe the "mask" as the "sensitive and vibrating structure of the face" in voice production.
Interestingly, I recently learned that the word PERSONAGE originates from "per"+"sonare" , referring to the sounding of the voice in the mask (from ancient theatrical drama) ... All the best!
Does this video cover the concept of channels?
You tell me...
hi my is marie I have two songs on youtube I wont to know I am singing in mixed voice beit f5 g5 notes
Raise your glottis! (What the hell does that mean?)
Kermit the Frog is backwards placement
Simply incorrect for any use of the voice.