Wonderful warm sound for both. I have a Polytone mini-brute III. I play a jazz box accordion (1957 Sonola Ernie Felice model) through it. It has a single 15" speaker. Perfect for the bassoon reeds typically used in jazz. It was pure luck that I came across it at my accordion teacher's store ten years ago. I haven't seen another since then. Recall that Polytone's founder, Tommy Gumina, was a serious American accordionist who would compete in European accordion competitions and kick butt. He had numerous jazz recordings as well. His group was called the "Polytones." He saw the need for amps like this and developed them in California. These solid state amps are as warm a sound as you can find for jazz accordion, guitar and bass alike.
I have the Roland Cube 60. I’ll never need anything else. Use it mainly in small home studio going line out to mixer. But powerful enough for live especially if micd up through the pa.
I prefer the Polytone although the Cube sounds nice, too.The trouble is, I'm listening to your fine playing rather than concentrating on the tone of the amps. Well done. Ken, Toronto
@@klecoxs2 SL15 is model of Polytone amp. It's a 15 inch speaker, built in reverb, and a phaser effect. I've learned that later model Polytones are somewhat bare. Thanks
I first heard about Polytone amps around 1995, having read about the company in Richard Chapman's "The Complete Guitarist". As I continued to study jazz guitar, I quickly became aware of the amp's popularity with players like Jim Hall and Joe Pass. 11 years later, I was able to buy a Mini-Brute II through an AIMM store I worked for. We weren't even dealers, but my boss had such a good reputation that he got the amp for me as a one time sale. Despite this fortune, the rumors about their quality control were quite true. I wanted to get a round, warm, fat, dark straight ahead sound. The Polytone had all of that plus a little bit of dryness that made the amp project. Initially, the amp ($600 at the time) had no issues (I use an '03 American Series HH Tele for anyone who's interested); however, within a year it started to break down. Serviceability was a nightmare. Remember, I *worked* for an AIMM dealer who employed a terrific tech. *He* couldn't fix it, and this guy had worked on B.B. King's amps. When I called sales and support for Polytone in California, I got the run around. I eventually sold the amp to a guy I knew who came into the store regularly and who knew its issues. He told me about two months after he bought it that the amp had a bad speaker and transformer. A damn shame, because what's the alternative? A lot of Fender Amps I've played through tend to sound too bright, noisy, and/or glassy for my taste (particularly the tube amps). Nevertheless, if you're in a pinch and need to fix or sell your Polytone, Henrikson, or JazzKat, who the hell is gonna fix or buy it?!? It's impossible to resell those, and it's even tougher to fix them. A Fender is more reliable in all respects, even though it doesn't quite have the sound (at least, the affordable ones; those that do have the sound - like a '57 Deluxe - are not in my price range). (Incidentally, I have not worked at that store in 3 years and no longer work music retail, so this endorsement is not motivated by anything ulterior).
What a great write up .. I have a Roland Cube 40GX that's pretty decent for what I call my pseudo Jazz setup/tone. The Polytone seems to accentuate low mids with an almost non-existent round pick attack. The Cube maybe the upper mids and more pick sound .. so close but the Polytone sounds like a guitar recording right off the album. But for those kinds of reliability issues and cost, I'm probably better off where I'm at.
Glad I could help. I had a late 80s JC-120 for a few years. Reliable, but way too bright and (of course) heavy for my taste. I know Ed Bickert used a Roland Cube for a while, so they can't be that bad...
Both amps sounded good to me, your playing is excellent which helps in both cases. Obviously to get a good Polytone would cost much more than a Roland Cube. I did come across a guy who had fitted a later model Cube 60 into a larger, deeper wooden cabinet and used a 15" celestion speaker which sounded much warmer and absolutely fantastic. Maybe being on a budget a decent 15" extension speaker cab would be a way to make the cube sound even nicer for Jazz guitar? These are just my thoughts as I already have a Cube 60 but unlikely to ever own a Polytone amp. Many thanks for sharing Nikolay.
Lovely Poöytone sound, Nikolay - I've been playing Polytone amps and combos as a professional double bass player. There's still nothing that can compete. The 80s rule. Digo
You always blow me away with your demos Nik. Superb playing and great tone. Yeah, the Polytone is my preference here, although the Cube is a very usable tone as well.
Roland is more reliable than Polytone and less than half the price on the used market. I really believe The Cube will outlast and out perform more than few much more expensive combos out there. In defense of the Polytone I've never come across a used one that wasn't on it's last legs.
Polytone amps are absolute beasts. I've gigged with them for years, and never had a single issue. The sound is so much warmer. To each their own, but it's just objectively wrong to state that most Polytone amps are "on their last leg".
Over the years I have bought used Polytones, which sound great. So far 3 of the mini-brutes have ceased working. They are un-repairable because the fiberglass stuffing becomes friable, the solid state schematics are difficult to find and the cost of repair exceeds the market value. I still have the big brute on wheels, but I sit now next to the Roland Cube 60. Pretty good, but it does not have the 'thunk' of the jazz guitar, however it is highly reliable and has decent delay.
I have 2 polytones and a Cube amp both vintage and I prefer the poly for guitar and use the cube for Fender Rhodes piano. The Rhodes sounds beautiful through the cube.
Hello! Is in the Roland Cube 60 Chorus the original speaker? Tomorrow i buy a Roland Cube 60 vintage(the orange one) with the original speaker. I hope it sounds great like this two.=) Awesome playing man! Thank You!:) Robert
Such beauty and ease in your playing, thank you. May I ask, if you could be so kind, to provide a transcription or lesson of this tune you are playing? The world appreciates it, and would do me the honor to learn it. Ty.
To my ear (with Shure earbuds) The Roland sounds clear. The Polytone has a little OD or bite, which extends the decay just a bit. Both sound good. The Polytone might sound better in a trio.
I wonder if, at some point, you had an opportunity to try the Maxon overdrive you had used in another Polytone video, on the Roland. If so, how did it compare? Your overdrive sound on the Polytone was really nice. Does the Roland stand up, as well?
+Ron Carter I never had a 410, only 212, but the tubes should be the same. I am using TAD (normal ones, no high-grade or something like that) and I like them. Cheers!
Polytones were the first light, portable amps. Since jazz musicians, even the famous, cannot afford a roadie and need a clean tone, Polytone was a solution to their problems. It's a decent, but not a great amp to todays measures we all just got used to the tone of the old masters using Polytone., . I owned and played one for many years, BTW. Roland's Blues Cube (the new one) is an excellent alternative, not to mention DV Mark (Little) Jazz, or Henriksen The Bud. The latter one being my favourite.
And now Henriksen has the Blu, a one-channel version of the Bud. It's 12 lbs, basically the same weight as the Roland Cube Street that runs on AA batteries, but the Henriksen comes with a shoulder bag like the Bud. For a gigging jazz guitarist the Blu is really setting a new standard for light and powerful and I'm considering getting one. Nothing sounds as good as a Fender tube amp but those are just too big, fragile and heavy to be realistic for a lot of things.
@@AlexHand Recently got a Blu and must say, I think it blows my 90s issue MBII out of the water tonewise. Don't know how it would hold up gig wise., but boy is the size and weight nice. The 80s MBII was the best, and I've never been completely thrilled with the 90s one. And they're not that "mini" either, compared to the 70s and 80s versions.
@@SgtBilko-uk5hh Have you tried the Bud? I'm on the fence between the Bud and Blu. What I didn't realize about the Bud is it has variable input gain so you can choose how hard to push the front of the amp. The Blu has a volume control but no gain in front of it.
@@AlexHand Haven't tried it. I don't need two channels, the Blu is five pounds lighter and a few hundred dollars less, so it was the best choice for my purposes. True, one volume control. If you want the other features, I'm sure you can't go wrong with the Bud either. My best equipment purchase in many a moon.
lovely playing ! ... I too, have a Roland Cube 60 and a Polytone Minibrute II ( also a minibrute III) and the cube is a good alround amp but a bit harsh as you go up high on treble strings - Polytone has something - a depth -a warmth that marks it out as special - I also use a lot of effects through it and they work well -problem is they're both now too heavy for me to carry around -I'm looking into AER and DVMark amps.
Nikolay!!! I very much enjoy your playing and style. I went looking around on google music for and album or any recording at all. Do you have anything out there? Other than your youtube vids?
I remember when those cubs came out. I tried them side by side with the vox. Bought the vox. Cubs had a few more bells and whistles but way more noise than the vox. I never owned the polytone, i know it is a fav for jazz guitarists. Maybe more for the reliability than the actual sound. To me it sounds like any other solid state amp. It is a one trick pony kind of amp. Gets the job done.
hello from Italy nice video i think Roland is not second to Polytone and with anothet eq maybe would sound more better Poltrone is più of stock for Manu time like Roland bit Roland price la more affordable and conveniente if giù se e già quality IMHO Question of Roland Cube 60 chorus right? Is the same of the other single test BYE Guido
Roland sounds fine when you're doing lines, but when you do any chords, the chord sounds blow out, so to speak. The sound of the Polytone; absolutely wonderful.
It is really hard to concentrate, as you are such a skilled musician...but having heard everything for the third time, I have to choose the Polytone as my favourite. the clarity, the warmth, the musicality it has, beats everything I have come near...Henriksen also. I am in love withe these little Polytone bastards, but am slightly biased , by having played my own Polytone Mini brute II for over 25 years, and will go on doing so, as long as I live.
I think the Poly sounds prettier. I play a PolyTone Mini Brute II from around 1987 (the Golden Age for that company). I've played 100 gigs a year for 30 years with that amp, and it never disappoints. For warm jazz playing, a Poly is king.
Got both. Selling the poly tone. Also to many buttons to push:) . Its boxy and nasal to my taste- better with an equalizer. My super cube came with the back removed- even better. Might get a warmer speaker- not sure. So- to each their own.
A single cuestion, the roland, is handmade un China? Here in argentina the prices of that Roland are low, but i dont know if are the same that you have, greetins and you play very good :)
Der Polytone ist mein Favorit. Cremiger und jazziger Ton at its Best. Der Roland ist für Jazz ebenfalls nicht schlecht, er erreicht aber nicht den superben Ton des Polytone. Der Roland ist meiner Meinung auch etwas bassärmer. Dennoch: Beide eignen sich hervorragend für Jazzgitarre.
I think both amps sound really good and very close to the same sound, but in all due respect I think you're playing could make any s***** amp sound really well, great playing as always my friend. maybe someday when you travel, come to Knoxville Tennessee so we can get together and jam, Cheers.
For reliability and ease of repair(God forbid) I’d go with the Roland. I had a friend who took his Minibrute to a repair shop and they could get a schematic to fix a problem from the company. It was the early 90s before internet was big so idk. Access was certainly limited and the company was goin through something so they wouldn’t give one out. It must have been a ownership change ...?
the cube sounds like a tube amp very smooth ,the brute like a typical solid state amp-hard/stiff attack,a little bit harsh...you can hear that clearly in the hi notes
I feel exactly the same. The Polytone sounds a bit thin and sterile and has less midrange. The Roland sounds more balanced. I'd go for the cube any time. I think the polytone is pretty overrated as a jazz guitar amp.
Beautiful playing Mr. ! Poly all day, smoother, easier on the ears, a bit more musical catching and reproducing those harmonics and overtones better than the Cube. The cube is sharper and edgier which doesn't bother with your good and tasteful picking technique but could easily turn into ice pick on the forehead in the hands of a different player.
the opposite is the case..the cube sounds more like a tube amp smooth tuby compression...the polytone sounds like a typical ss amp...stiff attack and harsh hi-s.. the cube is the amp on the left, by the way
@james Doctor you're right, sorry,the poly is on the left, but the cube is warmer and more tuby...I have the cube and a Kemper profile of the Poly...so that confirms my impression...but both are GREAT in the right setup
of course keeping our feet on the ground the listening audience would only hear the fantastic playing and not hear any difference in amps but US LOT the players hear things and sounds others dont ...........fanatics FANS lol
I had both amps..Joe Pass played on my Mini Brute II...no comparison in tone and response, I did gig with both, Roland Cube is a home toy ...The M.B. I played with it long loud and and never had had to deal with distortions (R.cube was done after 15 minutes) , not understand the point of this comparison if not an excuse to show off your guitar playing as the Minibrute isn't even available anymore.
riki rex p Hallo, no point, and the Roland is not available too, you can get them both second hand. I prefer to gig with the Roland though, it works much better with pedals. The MB is great for clean only. But Roland definitely isn't home toy, it's 30 old and still works just fine
Nikolay Karageorgiev I agree with you. I have two 80w cubes and love em. I think the comparison close. How do you compare the cubes with the jazz chorus?
I just got a mini brute two days ago, was really thinking hard about buying it because for certain gigs I want to run multi FX processors through it and I went out on a limb and got it anyway. As we know it’s perfect for clean tone but it takes my BOSS ME80 fantastically too. This comparison helped for sure. Just my opinion
I came here to listen to the comparison - but I keep coming back just to hear you play. Fantastic!
Chris Rymaszewski Thank you
Wonderful warm sound for both. I have a Polytone mini-brute III. I play a jazz box accordion (1957 Sonola Ernie Felice model) through it. It has a single 15" speaker. Perfect for the bassoon reeds typically used in jazz. It was pure luck that I came across it at my accordion teacher's store ten years ago. I haven't seen another since then. Recall that Polytone's founder, Tommy Gumina, was a serious American accordionist who would compete in European accordion competitions and kick butt. He had numerous jazz recordings as well. His group was called the "Polytones." He saw the need for amps like this and developed them in California. These solid state amps are as warm a sound as you can find for jazz accordion, guitar and bass alike.
So will owning one of these amps allow me to play like you?
came for the Polytone, stays for the playing. Great job!!
I have the Roland Cube 60. I’ll never need anything else. Use it mainly in small home studio going line out to mixer. But powerful enough for live especially if micd up through the pa.
Excellent playing. And your guitar is very perfectly tuned. The chords and their beat notes say this. Regards.
When you play like this any amp will sound good.
I own a Cube 60 (with other heavy Tube Amps) & love it, to my ears the Polytone edges it out harmonically with a Jazz Box...
came for the comparison and like someone else said, I stayed for the playing. wonderful. Guitar/ strings?
I prefer the Polytone although the Cube sounds nice, too.The trouble is, I'm listening to your fine playing rather than concentrating on the tone of the amps. Well done.
Ken, Toronto
Those Brutes are amazing jazz amps-Powerful too!
The Polytone Mini Brute is a little beast. Still have mine and love it.
both sounds awesome! love that in-your-face-transistor tone.. I guess I need to pick up one of those..
Nice playing. I'm a Polytone guy. I've got this exact model and an SL15. Nothing beats them
Hi I to have a Poly , does the SL15 refer to speaker or mic just curious
@@klecoxs2 SL15 is model of Polytone amp. It's a 15 inch speaker, built in reverb, and a phaser effect. I've learned that later model Polytones are somewhat bare. Thanks
@@wesforehand278 ok thanks for the quick response I’ve got reverb on mine I bought it used circa 90 but I’m not sure what model it is 👍
I first heard about Polytone amps around 1995, having read about the company in Richard Chapman's "The Complete Guitarist". As I continued to study jazz guitar, I quickly became aware of the amp's popularity with players like Jim Hall and Joe Pass. 11 years later, I was able to buy a Mini-Brute II through an AIMM store I worked for. We weren't even dealers, but my boss had such a good reputation that he got the amp for me as a one time sale.
Despite this fortune, the rumors about their quality control were quite true. I wanted to get a round, warm, fat, dark straight ahead sound. The Polytone had all of that plus a little bit of dryness that made the amp project. Initially, the amp ($600 at the time) had no issues (I use an '03 American Series HH Tele for anyone who's interested); however, within a year it started to break down. Serviceability was a nightmare. Remember, I *worked* for an AIMM dealer who employed a terrific tech. *He* couldn't fix it, and this guy had worked on B.B. King's amps. When I called sales and support for Polytone in California, I got the run around. I eventually sold the amp to a guy I knew who came into the store regularly and who knew its issues. He told me about two months after he bought it that the amp had a bad speaker and transformer.
A damn shame, because what's the alternative? A lot of Fender Amps I've played through tend to sound too bright, noisy, and/or glassy for my taste (particularly the tube amps). Nevertheless, if you're in a pinch and need to fix or sell your Polytone, Henrikson, or JazzKat, who the hell is gonna fix or buy it?!? It's impossible to resell those, and it's even tougher to fix them. A Fender is more reliable in all respects, even though it doesn't quite have the sound (at least, the affordable ones; those that do have the sound - like a '57 Deluxe - are not in my price range).
(Incidentally, I have not worked at that store in 3 years and no longer work music retail, so this endorsement is not motivated by anything ulterior).
What a great write up .. I have a Roland Cube 40GX that's pretty decent for what I call my pseudo Jazz setup/tone. The Polytone seems to accentuate low mids with an almost non-existent round pick attack. The Cube maybe the upper mids and more pick sound .. so close but the Polytone sounds like a guitar recording right off the album. But for those kinds of reliability issues and cost, I'm probably better off where I'm at.
Glad I could help. I had a late 80s JC-120 for a few years. Reliable, but way too bright and (of course) heavy for my taste. I know Ed Bickert used a Roland Cube for a while, so they can't be that bad...
Haha - not always...
Edit: I bought a Princeton Reverb reissue two years ago. Best $$$ I ever spent!
Both amps sounded good to me, your playing is excellent which helps in both cases. Obviously to get a good Polytone would cost much more than a Roland Cube.
I did come across a guy who had fitted a later model Cube 60 into a larger, deeper wooden cabinet and used a 15" celestion speaker which sounded much warmer and absolutely fantastic. Maybe being on a budget a decent 15" extension speaker cab would be a way to make the cube sound even nicer for Jazz guitar? These are just my thoughts as I already have a Cube 60 but unlikely to ever own a Polytone amp. Many thanks for sharing Nikolay.
Bought a polytone mini brute 3 off ebay for about $350 and its been the best decision ever
I don't understand why Roland stopped making the Cubes. They're incredibly sought after. Bang for buck wise they're also possibly the best amp ever.
The poly is soft and warm, but I prefer the brighter sharper attack of the cube. Awesome playing Nik!
Lovely Poöytone sound, Nikolay - I've been playing Polytone amps and combos as a professional double bass player. There's still nothing that can compete. The 80s rule. Digo
You always blow me away with your demos Nik. Superb playing and great tone. Yeah, the Polytone is my preference here, although the Cube is a very usable tone as well.
Thank you
I searched for Polytone demos because I may be picking up an older Mini Brute IV. :)
I hope it sounds as good as the modern one you have there.
Polytone mini brute sounds better. What about a test between Koch Studiotone and Henriksen?
Roland is more reliable than Polytone and less than half the price on the used market. I really believe The Cube will outlast and out perform more than few much more expensive combos out there. In defense of the Polytone I've never come across a used one that wasn't on it's last legs.
Uhhhh ya i just scored a used one in great working condition!
Polytone amps are absolute beasts. I've gigged with them for years, and never had a single issue. The sound is so much warmer. To each their own, but it's just objectively wrong to state that most Polytone amps are "on their last leg".
Over the years I have bought used Polytones, which sound great. So far 3 of the mini-brutes have ceased working. They are un-repairable because the fiberglass stuffing becomes friable, the solid state schematics are difficult to find and the cost of repair exceeds the market value. I still have the big brute on wheels, but I sit now next to the Roland Cube 60. Pretty good, but it does not have the 'thunk' of the jazz guitar, however it is highly reliable and has decent delay.
I have 2 polytones and a Cube amp both vintage and I prefer the poly for guitar and use the cube for Fender Rhodes piano. The Rhodes sounds beautiful through the cube.
Both sound very good. I have a old orange Cube 60 myself, these are so much better then today's Cubes. Very good playing too.
+rozariomusic Thanks a lot, I agree!
Hello! Is in the Roland Cube 60 Chorus the original speaker? Tomorrow i buy a Roland Cube 60 vintage(the orange one) with the original speaker. I hope it sounds great like this two.=)
Awesome playing man! Thank You!:)
Robert
Such beauty and ease in your playing, thank you. May I ask, if you could be so kind, to provide a transcription or lesson of this tune you are playing? The world appreciates it, and would do me the honor to learn it. Ty.
Thanks for the video! I think a lot of tone is in the hands and you are playing great!
Excellent player, good music! Ampwise, I prefer the warmth of the Polytone over the more defined sound of the Roland.
So sweet, that Polytone, but the Roland offers great value for money.
To my ear (with Shure earbuds) The Roland sounds clear. The Polytone has a little OD or bite, which extends the decay just a bit.
Both sound good. The Polytone might sound better in a trio.
I wonder if, at some point, you had an opportunity to try the Maxon overdrive you had used in another Polytone video, on the Roland. If so, how did it compare? Your overdrive sound on the Polytone was really nice. Does the Roland stand up, as well?
+stuntmedia I dont know, I will give it a try! Cheers!
Both amps sound great in the hands of a player like you.
Polytone is winner for me!
I wanted your opinion on something, you made a video using an older 90's model Peavey classic 50 410, any suggestions on tube replacements?
+Ron Carter I never had a 410, only 212, but the tubes should be the same. I am using TAD (normal ones, no high-grade or something like that) and I like them. Cheers!
Cube alittle brighter ,both sound good
Polytones were the first light, portable amps. Since jazz musicians, even the famous, cannot afford a roadie and need a clean tone, Polytone was a solution to their problems. It's a decent, but not a great amp to todays measures we all just got used to the tone of the old masters using Polytone., . I owned and played one for many years, BTW. Roland's Blues Cube (the new one) is an excellent alternative, not to mention DV Mark (Little) Jazz, or Henriksen The Bud. The latter one being my favourite.
Peter M. Winter nn
And now Henriksen has the Blu, a one-channel version of the Bud. It's 12 lbs, basically the same weight as the Roland Cube Street that runs on AA batteries, but the Henriksen comes with a shoulder bag like the Bud. For a gigging jazz guitarist the Blu is really setting a new standard for light and powerful and I'm considering getting one. Nothing sounds as good as a Fender tube amp but those are just too big, fragile and heavy to be realistic for a lot of things.
@@AlexHand Recently got a Blu and must say, I think it blows my 90s issue MBII out of the water tonewise. Don't know how it would hold up gig wise., but boy is the size and weight nice. The 80s MBII was the best, and I've never been completely thrilled with the 90s one. And they're not that "mini" either, compared to the 70s and 80s versions.
@@SgtBilko-uk5hh Have you tried the Bud? I'm on the fence between the Bud and Blu. What I didn't realize about the Bud is it has variable input gain so you can choose how hard to push the front of the amp. The Blu has a volume control but no gain in front of it.
@@AlexHand Haven't tried it. I don't need two channels, the Blu is five pounds lighter and a few hundred dollars less, so it was the best choice for my purposes. True, one volume control. If you want the other features, I'm sure you can't go wrong with the Bud either. My best equipment purchase in many a moon.
lovely playing ! ... I too, have a Roland Cube 60 and a Polytone Minibrute II ( also a minibrute III) and the cube is a good alround amp but a bit harsh as you go up high on treble strings - Polytone has something - a depth -a warmth that marks it out as special - I also use a lot of effects through it and they work well -problem is they're both now too heavy for me to carry around -I'm looking into AER and DVMark amps.
Polytone is the best jazz amp ever
Very helpful, thanx!
Great job! Sorry for being a slow learner - Would love for you to edit with labels to show which amp is being played when.
Look at where the cable is! :)
what sort of patterns are you using to play? and which of these amps is your personal favorite? thanks :)
+Nevershout Graham Hi, I like them both amps and what I play is mostly some arpeggios with some approaches around chord tones. Cheers!
Beautiful playing
I get a nice, warm, smooth tone from Fender Blues Deluxe all Tube amp. Draw back is the weight.
The polytone just barely edges out the Roland. Great playing!!
Nikolay!!! I very much enjoy your playing and style. I went looking around on google music for and album or any recording at all. Do you have anything out there? Other than your youtube vids?
+Tom Berube Thanks a lot, I dont have CD of my own, mostly recording other guys stuff , did a lot though :-)Best regards!
I remember when those cubs came out. I tried them side by side with the vox. Bought the vox. Cubs had a few more bells and whistles but way more noise than the vox. I never owned the polytone, i know it is a fav for jazz guitarists. Maybe more for the reliability than the actual sound. To me it sounds like any other solid state amp. It is a one trick pony kind of amp. Gets the job done.
The Cube has got better reverb
You're a pretty accomplished jazz guitarist. Polygon was used by Joe Pass wasn't it ?
hello from Italy
nice video i think Roland is not second to Polytone and with anothet eq maybe would sound more better
Poltrone is più of stock for Manu time like Roland bit Roland price la more affordable and conveniente if giù se e già quality IMHO
Question of Roland Cube 60 chorus right? Is the same of the other single test
BYE
Guido
I'm so lucky to own a polytone mini/teeny brute
when you play on the roland cube you have the cable plugged into the headphone socket??
the cube has a fender tone stack, while the polytone is a baxandall you should have increased the mids on the cube to make it flatter
I like both, but if I had to pick one, that would be the Roland.
Me too.
Great playing!
dude, why is your video so dark ? i have both these amps too ;) cheers!
@rompstar because 9 years ago was dark in my rehearsal room, and my camera obviously wasn't the best :-)
Roland sounds fine when you're doing lines, but when you do any chords, the chord sounds blow out, so to speak. The sound of the Polytone; absolutely wonderful.
Love the playing
It is really hard to concentrate, as you are such a skilled musician...but having heard everything for the third time, I have to choose the Polytone as my favourite. the clarity, the warmth, the musicality it has, beats everything I have come near...Henriksen also. I am in love withe these little Polytone bastards, but am slightly biased , by having played my own Polytone Mini brute II for over 25 years, and will go on doing so, as long as I live.
I think the Poly sounds prettier. I play a PolyTone Mini
Brute II from around 1987 (the Golden Age for that company). I've played 100 gigs a year for 30 years with that amp, and it never disappoints. For warm jazz playing, a Poly is king.
Got both. Selling the poly tone. Also to many buttons to push:) . Its boxy and nasal to my taste- better with an equalizer. My super cube came with the back removed- even better.
Might get a warmer speaker- not sure. So- to each their own.
did you end up putting in a new speaker? asking since I just bought the Roland Cube 60 and would love to get a warmer sound out of it. Thanks!
What tune is it at 2:20?
Interesting. I like the Polytone solo but the Roland tone holds the foreground with the band.
is that roland super cube 60 ?
ferry rukmana no is just a cube 60 with chorus
A single cuestion, the roland, is handmade un China? Here in argentina the prices of that Roland are low, but i dont know if are the same that you have, greetins and you play very good :)
Der Polytone ist mein Favorit. Cremiger und jazziger Ton at its Best. Der Roland ist für Jazz ebenfalls nicht schlecht, er erreicht aber nicht den superben Ton des Polytone. Der Roland ist meiner Meinung auch etwas bassärmer. Dennoch: Beide eignen sich hervorragend für Jazzgitarre.
Not much difference in sound. Price?
Both are nice tones. The Roland doesn’t seem as ‘colored’ with overtones as the Polytone.
Great stuff! The cube was not far off here
Polytone all day. So much warmer, better bottom end, very quiet, better build quality.
After the Polytone's sweetness the Roland gives me ear fatigue in two minutes.
Superb playing, we can hear you like Joe Pass ^^
Polytone-Joe Pass,George Benson,Alain Holdsworth,Pat Metheney,Frank Gambale etc.
Poly is cold, Roland is f....ing harsh. It is just my opinion. I had one and I still hate it. What do you think?
+Maurizio Vinci Thanks for the comment, I like them both actually, matter of taste I guess!Cheers!
+Nikolay Karageorgiev of course! ;-) Great playing... You got better!
They both sound great when you play them!
I think both amps sound really good and very close to the same sound, but in all due respect I think you're playing could make any s***** amp sound really well, great playing as always my friend. maybe someday when you travel, come to Knoxville Tennessee so we can get together and jam, Cheers.
+Ron Carter Thanks a lot man! If I am around I will drop by gladly! Cheers!
For reliability and ease of repair(God forbid) I’d go with the Roland. I had a friend who took his Minibrute to a repair shop and they could get a schematic to fix a problem from the company. It was the early 90s before internet was big so idk. Access was certainly limited and the company was goin through something so they wouldn’t give one out. It must have been a ownership change ...?
Today it is WAY easier to repair a Polytone than a Roland.
the cube sounds like a tube amp very smooth ,the brute like a typical solid state amp-hard/stiff attack,a little bit harsh...you can hear that clearly in the hi notes
I feel exactly the same. The Polytone sounds a bit thin and sterile and has less midrange. The Roland sounds more balanced. I'd go for the cube any time. I think the polytone is pretty overrated as a jazz guitar amp.
You play nicely!
Thanks a lot!
Sweet playing. What amp do you use now for that sweet jazz tone??
Thanks! Those plus fender blues deluxe sometimes
@@NikolayKarageorgiev Have you tried the newer Roland Blues Cube?
Polytone is designed for jazz, Roland Cube is universal design. Jazztone only compared When the difference is of course.
Funny thing is... Polytone was designed as a universal amp, for multiple instruments. Seems they both took the qualities from the same book
Il polytone suona meglio (timbro più caldo, rotondo e ricco) ma il Roland si difende bene!
Look at the capacitors and output transistors in polytones! The early ones are BEEFY. Good stuff
Beautiful playing Mr. !
Poly all day, smoother, easier on the ears, a bit more musical catching and reproducing those harmonics and overtones better than the Cube. The cube is sharper and edgier which doesn't bother with your good and tasteful picking technique but could easily turn into ice pick on the forehead in the hands of a different player.
EQ will fix that
the opposite is the case..the cube sounds more like a tube amp smooth tuby compression...the polytone sounds like a typical ss amp...stiff attack and harsh hi-s.. the cube is the amp on the left, by the way
@james Doctor you're right, sorry,the poly is on the left, but the cube is warmer and more tuby...I have the cube and a Kemper profile of the Poly...so that confirms my impression...but both are GREAT in the right setup
Felicidade!
Polytone! 👍🏻👍🏻
Hi whats the point of these so call cubes?? i really dont know Thanks
Beautiful tone i must say.But i get the same from my 66 jtm 45
Polytone meatier and a bit tighter......Roland's inception was a direct rip off of the Polytone
Poly rules
of course keeping our feet on the ground the listening audience would only hear the fantastic playing and not hear any difference in amps but US LOT the players hear things and sounds others dont ...........fanatics FANS lol
Polytone!!!!
Polytone by a mile.
poly is king
Polytone big tone
I had both amps..Joe Pass played on my Mini Brute II...no comparison in tone and response, I did gig with both, Roland Cube is a home toy ...The M.B. I played with it long loud and and never had had to deal with distortions (R.cube was done after 15 minutes) , not understand the point of this comparison if not an excuse to show off your guitar playing as the Minibrute isn't even available anymore.
riki rex p Hallo, no point, and the Roland is not available too, you can get them both second hand. I prefer to gig with the Roland though, it works much better with pedals. The MB is great for clean only. But Roland definitely isn't home toy, it's 30 old and still works just fine
Nikolay Karageorgiev I agree with you. I have two 80w cubes and love em. I think the comparison close. How do you compare the cubes with the jazz chorus?
Ps, no way they are toys.
I just got a mini brute two days ago, was really thinking hard about buying it because for certain gigs I want to run multi FX processors through it and I went out on a limb and got it anyway. As we know it’s perfect for clean tone but it takes my BOSS ME80 fantastically too. This comparison helped for sure. Just my opinion