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By far the best meta analysis I've seen in recent weeks. Keep the great work!
Appreciate that, thank you!
The production quality in this one is insane. Subbed!
Thanks for the sub! My editor is great!
You done good, boss. It was a pleasure to hang with you over the weekend.
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Any chance we could get a suggestion for a Lugia list that you would run? Noticed it was the only one without a list in the video haha
Sorry my bad! Here you go:
Pokémon: 21
4 Lugia V SIT 138
3 Lugia VSTAR SIT 139
4 Archeops SIT 147
3 Minccino TEF 136
3 Cinccino TEF 137
1 Iron Hands ex PAR 70
1 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 64
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 22
4 Carmine TWM 204
3 Iono PAL 254
3 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153
1 Nest Ball PAF 84
3 Mesagoza SVI 178
Energy: 17
4 Gift Energy LOR 171
4 Jet Energy PAL 190
3 Mist Energy TEF 161
3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 V Guard Energy SIT 169
1 Legacy Energy TWM 167
1 Lightning Energy SVE 4
This is a top tier video. Amazing editing and narrator. Can't wait to take these tips to NAIC!
Glad you enjoyed it! Best of luck!
In my opinion according to online results:
S tier: Gardevoir ex, Raging Bolt ex
A tier: Dragapult ex, Lugia VSTAR
B tier: Iron Thorns ex, Lost Box, Ancient Box, Pidgeot ex Control, Regidrago VSTAR Box
C tier: Giratina VSTAR Lost Box, Charizard ex, Snorlax Control, Dialga VSTAR
D tier: Greninja ex, Miraidon ex, Blissey ex, Future Hands, Chien-Pao ex, Gholdengo ex
F tier: everything else
charizard c tier 🤣
@@totodiledile1926 Yeah Charizard isn't good anymore. The best way to play Charizard now is with Dragapult and at that point I wouldn't even call it a Charizard deck
Dragapult Pidgeot is the real wombo combo - genuinely think it's a much better variant than Xatu, especially with the Neo Upper energy in there. Keen to see how it does.
Me too! I hope we get to see all the dragapult variants next weekend
Man I fought one earlier with my regidrago deck and would of lost but I used Giovanni's charisma on them removing upper neo energy and adding my own and then I used unfair stamp to put that bro back in his deck xD it was such a solid play .
I've had much more success with neo and Pidgeot. pault has too many holes without Pidegeot
Video was really well done and the effort put in was evident, even if I didn’t agree w everything lol great vid!
Glad you enjoyed! As mentioned this is just my opinion from a weekish of testing and theorying, it is not the ultimate word and authority on what’s good and what isn’t
No deck list for lugia?
Thanks for the tierlist, it was very helpful, also would you recommend playing gardevoir?
Yup Gardevoir is pretty good for sure!
The intro was SO GOOD
I'm very sad that ancient box dropped so much, but I've been having a lot of fun learning Lugia
Maybe the meta can adjust for it to be good again! It's definitely good against Lugia and Raging Bolt so there's hope!
I think Turbo Hands with Iron Thorns will be pretty strong. The opponent can get around it with Boss's Orders, but they can't play a supporter on the same turn and that significantly weakens setup oriented decks like Lugia and Raging Oger.
Gholdengo would probably be up there now especially with the new aroma ace spec it has more potential
Lugia is so solid now. Carmine really helps with the setup
Agreed! Lugia VSTAR is going to be a force to be reckoned with
This is going to be so much fun!
Pablo, this is a fantastic video. Well produced and concise.
Thank you very much :) Please share as much as possible so more people can see it!
Iron Thorns stops the snowball of Raging Bolt. It cripples it if it comes out first and you can't switch it out.
You're guys are sleeping on Froslass control
What are your thoughts on Luxray ex? (eg. the decklist from LDF)
Haven’t tried it yet but will soon, so many decks are possible
Great video! What is the idea of Oranguru V? Please.
It’s attack is a good answer to iron hands and it also fetches forest seal stone with its ability so it can find any missing piece with it
I think raging bolt will be top tier and dragapult will drop to B tier at least, there was so much hype for dragapult but it feels underwhelming at best...lugia will dominate too and maybe charizard will be seen less but not because it gets worse, just because of the novelty of the new decks, everyone wants to play with them...control will see a lot of play, maybe someone will mix it with the iron thorns ex in some way...and I have tested three dragapult companions (pidgeot/bibarel, lost zone, xatu) and feel like xatu is the slowest an weakier and lost zone and pidgeot are better, especially the draw power of lost zone combined with mirage gate
thoughts on regidrago?
Interesting but convoluted option! Haven’t tested it much but will soon!
What’s the purpose of Hawlucha in dragapault deck? I’m trying to learn it.
Placing an extra damage on 70 hp basics so you can ko them with phantom dive
@@tablemon thank you!!
After seeing that dipplin list, i'm not surprised as to why it was ranked so low. No offense, but this list is mediocre and clunky. That 60 doesn't do the deck justice for how good it actually is and can be. I suggest looking up LDF's list that he covered on his channel. I've been using that list and it just slays.
Here's what you shouldcut from this list:
Cut:
-1 Goldeen
-1 Vengeful Punch
-1 TM Evo
-1 Rellor
-1 Rabsca
-1 Unfair Stamp
Add:
+1 Maximum Belt (max belt and kieran combo hits for 360)
+2 Professor's Research
+1 Super Rod
+1 Counter Catcher or Roseanne's Back up (get back max belt and festival grounds)
+1 Vitality Band or Choice belt (have different options for damage output depending on matchups)
Honorable mentions:
You can either go the 1-1 Rabsca line or 1 manaphy and 1 Jirachi. Depends on what you care more for and how you weigh the pros and cons for each choice.
Fair! I definitely did not dedicate a lot of time to the deck as I don't have high hopes for it but I'm always happy to be proven wrong!
Miraidon EX is so good right now with Tatsugiri, greninja and prime catcher.
3:40 Not sure why you'd show Archeops here. Lugia can't get Archeops into play against Quad Thorns.
Some Lugias play flutter mane precisely because of this so it is relevant
What about Regidrago VSTAR? It´s not that good?
It has potential, it might be a surprise but it didn't have too many results in Japan which is why I didn't heavily consider it
Quad thornes beats lugia,zard and garde... and it keeps up with other decks like chien pao and raging bolt. Sooooo?
Lost box, giratina and dragapult keep it in check but it does have polarizing good and and bad matchups
No screenshot for Lugia deck?
My bad! Here you go:
Pokémon: 21
4 Lugia V SIT 138
3 Lugia VSTAR SIT 139
4 Archeops SIT 147
3 Minccino TEF 136
3 Cinccino TEF 137
1 Iron Hands ex PAR 70
1 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 64
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 22
4 Carmine TWM 204
3 Iono PAL 254
3 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153
1 Nest Ball PAF 84
3 Mesagoza SVI 178
Energy: 17
4 Gift Energy LOR 171
4 Jet Energy PAL 190
3 Mist Energy TEF 161
3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 V Guard Energy SIT 169
1 Legacy Energy TWM 167
1 Lightning Energy SVE 4
@@tablemon thank youuu
Do you have a miraidon ex list?
This is what I've been playing with from Japan:
Pokémon: 13
3 Miraidon ex SVI 81
2 Iron Hands ex PAR 70
1 Raikou V BRS 48
1 Raichu V BRS 45
1 Zapdos PGO 29
1 Mew ex MEW 151
1 Squawkabilly ex PAF 75
1 Tatsugiri TWM 131
1 Iron Bundle PAR 56
1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46
Trainer: 29
4 Professor's Research CRZ 150
3 Arven SVI 235
3 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251
4 Electric Generator PAF 79
4 Nest Ball PAF 84
1 Ultra Ball SVI 196
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157
1 Switch Cart ASR 154
1 Lost Vacuum CRZ 135
2 Rescue Board TEF 159
2 Bravery Charm PAL 173
1 Heavy Baton TEF 151
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
1 Town Store OBF 196
Energy: 18
16 Lightning Energy SVE 4
2 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
I think you forgot to talk about espathra ex deck
Ogerpon and raging bolt have killed arceus. I used to play arc/rouge but no way I'm playing it when raging bolt can KO it turn 1.
Think you get the tier lists spots on tbh.
Dragapult has huge potential but feels very bricky when I play it, maybe I just haven't found the right list
Thank you for watching! Yeah Arceus feels like it has run its course.
i'm going to NAIC. im torn between few decks. Dragapult hasn't felt consistent. Bolt feels very fun and consistent and festival lead is just to fun and a great single prize deck.
I'd go with with bolt or dipplin. Both can cook well! Your worst matchup with dipplin/festival lead is Dragapult, and maybe lost box (depends on if you go 1-1 rabsca or 1 manaphy and 1 Jirachi).
Rabsca will help a bit vs dragapult and lost box but it's a stage 1 that requires to search a bit harder. But if you use Jirachi/manaphy, you can find off of poffin easily, but then your dragapult matchup is even worse. It's kinda a pick your poison situation.
Raging Bolt is very consistent and can take on any deck pretty easily. Idk what it's worst matchup is since I have yet to try it myself. Maybe Lugia would be your worst matchup? What I'm saying is based off of what I've seen and heard throughout the TCG scene.
@@aS__Spencer i can confirm lugia is also very rough for dipplin.
@@thejackalswitch8406 oh, really? Would it be because of the stadium removal from lugia itself?
@@aS__Spencer a combo of stadium removal, iron hands, and water ogerpon. they have a lot of ways of tkaing 2 prizes at once. and if they get a hotter start than you you cant recover.
@thejackalswitch8406 fair enough. However, if you run manaphy instead of 1-1 rabsca, it will be 1 less issue for a decent amount of time, making them heavily rely on iron hands.
And if we're being honest for a sec, if you tech in 1 Roseanne's back up, you can re-use the stadium a 5th time, and max belt a 2nd time. The list that was shown in the video was a mediocre one. Max belt is better than stamp for this type of deck.
Even though I mentioned these inclusions, sure the matchup would still be unfavored, but it would be a bit more winnable
A good 60 list for dipplin can be found. I suggest LDF's list. Way better and more consistent
Man is really meat riding dragapult when it’s not even that strong alot of people are saying it’s not the best
Found the 60HP basic enjoyer
Anyway, phantom dive
As mentioned in the video this is just my opinion and findings from a week-ish from testing, not the final authority on the best and worst decks
@@GigaChadBased lol no i just don’t think dragapult as all that i can beat it with ancient box anyday
Dialga feels way better then D Tier
Agreed
I got 1st at 2 locals this week with Dialga
Like I said in the video, do not underestimate Star Chronos and yeah every deck in this list has the potential to have a good run for sure!
@@enhidri160locals is different than an actual tournament lmao
@@e7193what?? His local is not the standard?? No way..
I hope everyone under prepares for Chien Pao and it wins
Mejor me suscribo a este canal, el de español casi no subes contenido, lo bueno es que sé inglés aunque no lo escribo correctamente, y yo que me quería hacer el deck de electrofuria o el de regidrago ex pero pues no están en tier a, saludos buen contenido
Este mismo video saldrá en español en unas horas, y todos los videos así producidos saldrán allá también. Solo los de yo jugando, que ya solo haré cuando salgan nuevas expansiones, serán exclusivos en inglés.
Dame chance
Too much hand disruption without any protection at all. I miss milotic so much:(
Keep sleeping on ancient box😈
We'll rise soon enough
I also think ancient box loses to an early game unfair stamp
Pablo no se por quien votar, ayúdame
4 Buddy Buddy Poffin 4 Ultra Ball 4 Rare Candy 4ta Transformación
the Lugia list ist in the video 😢
my bad!
Pokémon: 20
3 Lugia V SIT 138
3 Lugia VSTAR SIT 139
4 Archeops SIT 147
3 Minccino TEF 136
3 Cinccino TEF 137
1 Iron Hands ex PAR 70
1 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 64
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 23
4 Carmine TWM 204
3 Iono PAL 254
3 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251
1 Professor's Research CRZ 150
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153
1 Nest Ball PAF 84
3 Mesagoza SVI 178
Energy: 17
4 Gift Energy LOR 171
4 Jet Energy PAL 190
3 Mist Energy TEF 161
3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 V Guard Energy SIT 169
1 Legacy Energy TWM 167
1 Lightning Energy SVE 4
the benchmark is lugia, not dragapult
It is today, it wasn't a week ago
@@tablemon It was already for those who were playtesting the format :D
Great video. Great job 🫡👑
Thank you! 🤗
No way Dipplin Thwakey is better than Dialga Metang, just my opinion.
The decks in the tier aren’t ordered :)
Lugia List D:??????
Here:
Pokémon: 21
4 Lugia V SIT 138
3 Lugia VSTAR SIT 139
4 Archeops SIT 147
3 Minccino TEF 136
3 Cinccino TEF 137
1 Iron Hands ex PAR 70
1 Wellspring Mask Ogerpon ex TWM 64
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
1 Bloodmoon Ursaluna ex TWM 141
Trainer: 22
4 Carmine TWM 204
3 Iono PAL 254
3 Boss's Orders PR-SW 251
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Capturing Aroma SIT 153
1 Nest Ball PAF 84
3 Mesagoza SVI 178
Energy: 17
4 Gift Energy LOR 171
4 Jet Energy PAL 190
3 Mist Energy TEF 161
3 Double Turbo Energy BRS 151
1 V Guard Energy SIT 169
1 Legacy Energy TWM 167
1 Lightning Energy SVE 4
I think Gardevoir with Hyper Aroma will find more success
That deck is disgustingly good
It seems decent but im a bigger fan of tm evolution since if you go second you will get setup faster in the mirror
@@wingsof5stack390 gardevoir in general is nasty lol
@@wingsof5stack390 I play with both Hyper Aroma and one TM Evolution so I can set up either going first or second
@@Jerryboy97 that’s probably correct
Charizard all the way