In my humble view John Tavener was one of the greatest composers of the 20th century. His deep spirituality comes across in superb works like this. It lifts you onto another plane.
Tbh, Tavener’s Lament of the mother of Jesus does in fact sum up the loss of so many innocent lives; men, women and children of #Palestine/#Gaza all who deserved a better life than living in endless terror at the hands of a puppeteering corrupt Israeli government whose companies have taken over the world.. thoughts and prayers aren’t ever really enough to heal or bring peace to the broken-hearted. No charity can Ever replace what’s been lost or destroyed. My heart goes out to all citizens of #Palestine who’ve lost everything and everyone that once mattered to them; grieving parents, grandparents, other relatives and especially whom I pity the most, orphans.. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
I was at Winchester Cathedral a few years ago when a wedding was imminent and the choir were preparing. It was like listening to the angels singing in heaven. Beautiful. And this brings that back.
Reading the words while listening to this solemn chant, I can feel the grief, the loss, the agony of Mary. "Woe is me, my Child." Truly there were 3 who agonized at Calvary. The Father who could but only look on evil as it nailed His Son to a wooden cross. Christ whom from Gethsemane's blood browed prayers pointed to Calvary and the dread of losing His communion with the Father. And there was Mother Mary who stood on the earth where her child was dying. What wonder there must have been in heaven that day. But that was Friday. Sunday was coming! Amen and Amen!!
Tavener transcends spirituality transposing through sound, voice through the sacred Christian Orthodox. During his own life looking for inner peace, finding strength to recover from illness in turn giving to others. Every so often I discover another piece or interpretation that evokes something deep I am unable to comprehend
Same here my friend I don’t quite understand how or why I’m lifted to a point where my cares briefly disappear and I feel a transcendent joy when I hear this sacred music.
His music is as if intertwined with the Godhead and the angels playing through his heart of his very short life - his purpose was served to touch us all.
Anyone you gave this a thumbs down should have kept the horrible thought to themselves. It adds more to my conviction that maybe the best sacred music ever written has been written in the last half century
Lyrics to last verse: Woe is me, my child, Woe is me, my child, woe is me light of mine eyes and delivered from of my womb, For what Simeon foretold in the temple: A sword pierces my heart; but dost Thou change my grief to gladness by Thy resurrection.
What is evident is John Tavener's acquaintance with suffering; throughout his life he suffered from various health conditions. No-one has commented on the effect that this must have had on his music, but I am sure you can see and feel that here, his empathy with the pain of Mary.
His piece I heard, Mother of God, here I stand. Was written while he was having his painful moments with his health condition. The tempo, rhythm was written accompanied to his heart beat. You can read more on it there’s probably more.
If I am not mistaken, the Lament comes from Resurrection, an oratorio premiered at Glasgow Cathedral in 1990, and which I attended. The continuing attraction that many feel for Tavener gives me hope for the human race. We are more than flesh and bones; we aspire to eternity.
I once read someone state, without much explanation, that adoration of the Virgin helped her with her post-abortion regret. This song brought me closer to understanding why.
@treblechoir99 Thank you so much. I'm so glad to know that you enjoyed this one. You have a spectacular channel, and I love following the things that you post.
Well, I never. I had not thought of you as an athiest. Folk who tell me they're an athiest have always been alcoholics with a grudge against their parent. . You are so enlightening. Those folk with the grudge, who go to pubs, must be plain old regular perverts or sociopaths. . Thank you for your comment. Keep on trucking, with the "Sans Frontières" universal emotions. . . Cheers. from, del-boy
Just a note on the famous sculpture in the video above. Did Mary work-out or, how was she able to nurse her son Jesus in that position; he would have weighed more than she, even ! . Anyone? o0o
lyricstranslate.com/en/john-tavener-lament-mother-god-lyrics.html Woe is me, my Child! I see Thee, dearest and beloved Child, hanging upon the cross, and my heart is bitterly wounded. But in Thy love, speak some word to Thy handmaiden. Woe is me, my Child! I wish to take my son down from the wood and to hold Him in my arms as once I held Him when He was a little child; But alas, there is no-one to give Him to me. Woe is me, my Child! I see Thee bruised and wounded, without glory, stripped upon the cross. O my Child, and my heart burns. Woe is me, my Child! In my arms, I hold Thee as a corpse, O loving Lord, who has brought the dead back to life; Grievously is my heart wounded, and I long to die with Thee, for I cannot bear to look upon Thee lifeless and without breath. Woe is me, my Child! I reflect, O Master: how never again shall I hear Thy voice. Never again shall Thy handmaiden see the beauty of Thy face as in the past, for Thou, my Son, hast sunk down before mine eyes. Woe is me, my child! Where dost thou go, my Child? Why dost thou run so swiftly? Is there another wedding in Cana, and are thou hastening there to turn the water into wine? Shall I go with thee, my child, or shall I wait for thee? Speak some word to me, O Word; Do not pass me by in silence. Thou hast preserved my virginity, and thou art my Son and God. Woe is me, my child! Release me from agony and take me with Thee, O my Son and God. Let me also descend with Thee, O Master, into Hell. Leave me not to live alone, for I cannot bear to look upon Thee, my sweet Light. Woe is me, my child, Woe is me, my child, woe is me light of mine eyes and delivered from of my womb, For what Simeon foretold in the temple: A sword pierces my heart; but dost Thou change my grief to gladness by Thy resurrection. Rise, O God, and judge the Earth! Rise, O God, and judge the Earth!
NEBUKEDNEZZA Good point. Owing to the difficulty of sculpting a full-grown man in the arms/lap of his smaller and slighter mother, the proportions aren't quite right (excuse me for saying, Michelangelo!) - something scholars, artists and others have recognised. But that aside, I also like to think about the strength of women in their grief - or other strong emotion - capable of much. If that grieving mother had wanted to hold her beloved son, no matter how heavy he was - especially after such a happening as Christ's passion and death - then she would have done it. Imagine yourself in her position. The weight of that loved one wouldn't matter at all.
+Yorick Jenkins mad ignorant like fuck you bruh you cant comprehend what im saying because hard af means its awesome so i do appreciate and understand it you lil fuck bwoy
+Kayko Donald You'll never be taken seriously with that language. What you posted was neither respectful nor enlightened and it doesn't impress anyone. Your speech-text is atrocious and you'll never excel in life. Good luck to you, child.
The beginning sounds turgidly medieval. Then there's a not very interesting bit with an Arabic scale.Then we keep on heading up the musical scale to some standard stuff at the end. Doesn't have any of the tension, emotion and genius of his "Lamb." Doesn't sound like it came from the same composer.
Why the background pipe emission?! This is so dumb. Listening to her voice without any played addons would be much better. This is unbearable for me. Her voice is great and all but this frikn pipe/keyboard input is just horrible.
I believe it's an a cappella piece and that those are vocal lines in the choir you're hearing, possibly with a little discreet support from the organ. Cf Tavener's 'Song for Athene,' used -- dramatically -- in Princess Diana's funeral (see Diana Funeral: Tavener Alleluia, Quarter Peal, also on TH-cam). It has a similar choir drone effect.
This is the arrangement, it's only voices. It's sung by all four/eight parts, I recall (but it's been 25+ years since I've sung it). It's hard to do, and, to me, unfortunately, you can hear the choir laboring.
I sang on this recording in 1993. It is written for unaccompanied choir. There is no organ part. What you are hearing are the boys' voices holding very long notes (drones), an idea which Tavener often uses because it comes from the tradition of Byzantine chant. It is a hugely difficult piece that requires serious athleticism, especially from the boys, to sustain the high notes.
In my humble view John Tavener was one of the greatest composers of the 20th century. His deep spirituality comes across in superb works like this. It lifts you onto another plane.
Tbh, Tavener’s Lament of the mother of Jesus does in fact sum up the loss of so many innocent lives; men, women and children of #Palestine/#Gaza all who deserved a better life than living in endless terror at the hands of a puppeteering corrupt Israeli government whose companies have taken over the world.. thoughts and prayers aren’t ever really enough to heal or bring peace to the broken-hearted. No charity can Ever replace what’s been lost or destroyed. My heart goes out to all citizens of #Palestine who’ve lost everything and everyone that once mattered to them; grieving parents, grandparents, other relatives and especially whom I pity the most, orphans.. 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Tavener is my Hero. Thank God for such wonderful music.
I was at Winchester Cathedral a few years ago when a wedding was imminent and the choir were preparing. It was like listening to the angels singing in heaven. Beautiful. And this brings that back.
My soul thanks you for this..my girl passed a year ago..and somehow this music helped me to wash away the grief...a unison of understanding ensuing..
Reading the words while listening to this solemn chant, I can feel the grief, the loss, the agony of Mary. "Woe is me, my Child."
Truly there were 3 who agonized at Calvary. The Father who could but only look on evil as it nailed His Son to a wooden cross. Christ whom from Gethsemane's blood browed prayers pointed to Calvary and the dread of losing His communion with the Father. And there was Mother Mary who stood on the earth where her child was dying. What wonder there must have been in heaven that day. But that was Friday. Sunday was coming! Amen and Amen!!
+Sione Hefa Amen!!
Very true
Was this not foreseen ? The inevitability was writ on the wall from the start - at last comes the certainty of release and all that comes with it .
This is so beautiful and profound, transcendent and divine.
Tavener transcends spirituality transposing through sound, voice through the sacred Christian Orthodox. During his own life looking for inner peace, finding strength to recover from illness in turn giving to others. Every so often I discover another piece or interpretation that evokes something deep I am unable to comprehend
Same here my friend I don’t quite understand how or why I’m lifted to a point where my cares briefly disappear and I feel a transcendent joy when I hear this sacred music.
Simply heavenly, gorgeous.
heart touching ..
This is the music i have painted to, for the last 20 + years, just incredibly perfect, beautiful music and singing. I can listen to it all day long
Thanks so much for posting this - this woman's voice is extraordinary. A new (and very beautiful) JT piece to me.
Oh my, words really are unable to fully compliment this awesome work ! The heart is raised to the heavens...
His music is as if intertwined with the Godhead and the angels playing through his heart of his very short life - his purpose was served to touch us all.
Solveig Kringlebotns voice is absolutely fantastic
Anyone you gave this a thumbs down should have kept the horrible thought to themselves. It adds more to my conviction that maybe the best sacred music ever written has been written in the last half century
Who could give a thumbs down ? So sublime & profound !
Mercy!! I had never heard this one from Tavener before! I'll be storing this away in the ranks of favorite choral pieces to listen to!! Awesome!!!!!
Wow....ist ja unglaublich...
Habe keine Worte dafür...
Thank you!
Lyrics to last verse:
Woe is me, my child,
Woe is me, my child, woe is me
light of mine eyes and delivered from of my womb,
For what Simeon foretold in the temple:
A sword pierces my heart;
but dost Thou change my grief to gladness by Thy resurrection.
Thanks for those last lines! I can't find the entire hymn on the web. Could you tell me the author and title of the ancient hymn?
@@fraPasqualeread the description
Thanks@@ChonkyCat9000
What is evident is John Tavener's acquaintance with suffering; throughout his life he suffered from various health conditions. No-one has commented on the effect that this must have had on his music, but I am sure you can see and feel that here, his empathy with the pain of Mary.
His piece I heard, Mother of God, here I stand. Was written while he was having his painful moments with his health condition. The tempo, rhythm was written accompanied to his heart beat. You can read more on it there’s probably more.
Beautiful.
SO MUCH POWERFUL WHEN CLOSING EYES
If I am not mistaken, the Lament comes from Resurrection, an oratorio premiered at Glasgow Cathedral in 1990, and which I attended. The continuing attraction that many feel for Tavener gives me hope for the human race. We are more than flesh and bones; we aspire to eternity.
I Love songs that make me slow down and look within
Truly the poetry of the Mother of God.
Sublime....
superb!!!!!!!!!!
John Tavener is almost the only composer who's music I enjoy listening to.
he will truly be missed
This one is magnificent, thank you and also for your comment very appreciat.
Beautiful !
Thnks
I once read someone state, without much explanation, that adoration of the Virgin helped her with her post-abortion regret. This song brought me closer to understanding why.
...powalające!!! Bezapelacyjnie przepiękne...
Superb !
A lot of thanks
Simply quite powerful
MAGNIFICENT ♥️
@treblechoir99 Thank you so much. I'm so glad to know that you enjoyed this one. You have a spectacular channel, and I love following the things that you post.
Magnifico são estes cantos, nos trazem muita Paz de espirito.
Woe is me, my Child!
(wow)
Suave, sereno (...)
hermosoooo
🖤
Well, I never.
I had not thought of you as an athiest.
Folk who tell me they're an athiest have always been alcoholics with a grudge against their parent.
.
You are so enlightening.
Those folk with the grudge, who go to pubs, must be plain old regular perverts or sociopaths.
.
Thank you for your comment.
Keep on trucking, with the "Sans Frontières" universal emotions.
.
.
Cheers.
from,
del-boy
Incredibly poignant, and gorgeously sung.
piekne
Oh my God!!! Who's that sinful soul who did not like this piece?!?
AaronCaldera satan
betiful becouse the opera
👌🕊️
My Phoenix rising from it's ashes.
Just a note on the famous sculpture in the video above.
Did Mary work-out or, how was she able to nurse her son Jesus in that position; he would have weighed more than she, even !
.
Anyone?
o0o
Anyone knows what sclupture / picture is on the video ? thanks
michelangelo's pietà
Thanks !
Antony Gasnier The Pieta
How on earth can anyone 'dislike' this?!??? Schmuck with no musical taste or appreciation IMO.
amazing work, sounds a little like armenian church music
lyricstranslate.com/en/john-tavener-lament-mother-god-lyrics.html
Woe is me, my Child!
I see Thee, dearest and beloved Child,
hanging upon the cross,
and my heart is bitterly wounded.
But in Thy love, speak some word to Thy handmaiden.
Woe is me, my Child!
I wish to take my son down from the wood
and to hold Him in my arms
as once I held Him when He was a little child;
But alas, there is no-one to give Him to me.
Woe is me, my Child!
I see Thee bruised and wounded,
without glory, stripped upon the cross.
O my Child, and my heart burns.
Woe is me, my Child!
In my arms, I hold Thee as a corpse,
O loving Lord, who has brought the dead back to life;
Grievously is my heart wounded,
and I long to die with Thee,
for I cannot bear to look upon Thee lifeless and without breath.
Woe is me, my Child!
I reflect, O Master: how never again shall I hear Thy voice.
Never again shall Thy handmaiden see the beauty of Thy face
as in the past, for Thou, my Son,
hast sunk down before mine eyes.
Woe is me, my child!
Where dost thou go, my Child?
Why dost thou run so swiftly?
Is there another wedding in Cana,
and are thou hastening there to turn the water into wine?
Shall I go with thee, my child,
or shall I wait for thee?
Speak some word to me, O Word;
Do not pass me by in silence.
Thou hast preserved my virginity,
and thou art my Son and God.
Woe is me, my child!
Release me from agony
and take me with Thee, O my Son and God.
Let me also descend with Thee, O Master, into Hell.
Leave me not to live alone,
for I cannot bear to look upon Thee, my sweet Light.
Woe is me, my child,
Woe is me, my child, woe is me
light of mine eyes and delivered from of my womb,
For what Simeon foretold in the temple:
A sword pierces my heart;
but dost Thou change my grief to gladness by Thy resurrection.
Rise, O God, and judge the Earth!
Rise, O God, and judge the Earth!
NEBUKEDNEZZA Good point. Owing to the difficulty of sculpting a full-grown man in the arms/lap of his smaller and slighter mother, the proportions aren't quite right (excuse me for saying, Michelangelo!) - something scholars, artists and others have recognised.
But that aside, I also like to think about the strength of women in their grief - or other strong emotion - capable of much. If that grieving mother had wanted to hold her beloved son, no matter how heavy he was - especially after such a happening as Christ's passion and death - then she would have done it. Imagine yourself in her position. The weight of that loved one wouldn't matter at all.
la pietà di michelangelo
Dis shit hard AF biiitch
+Kayko Donald This music is beyond your understanding. Confine yourself and your comments to the dark ghetto to which you should be confined
+Yorick Jenkins mad ignorant like fuck you bruh you cant comprehend what im saying because hard af means its awesome so i do appreciate and understand it you lil fuck bwoy
+Kayko Donald You'll never be taken seriously with that language. What you posted was neither respectful nor enlightened and it doesn't impress anyone. Your speech-text is atrocious and you'll never excel in life. Good luck to you, child.
Tell me what you are good for, can you?
+Zee Hall Hall get off it we all know you mean black people.
mono??!!
this is not of this world
Nietzsche.
👍✨✨✨
The beginning sounds turgidly medieval. Then there's a not very interesting bit with an Arabic scale.Then we keep on heading up the musical scale to some standard stuff at the end. Doesn't have any of the tension, emotion and genius of his "Lamb." Doesn't sound like it came from the same composer.
and apparently no soul as well.......pity that
Why the background pipe emission?! This is so dumb. Listening to her voice without any played addons would be much better. This is unbearable for me. Her voice is great and all but this frikn pipe/keyboard input is just horrible.
I believe it's an a cappella piece and that those are vocal lines in the choir you're hearing, possibly with a little discreet support from the organ. Cf Tavener's 'Song for Athene,' used -- dramatically -- in Princess Diana's funeral (see Diana Funeral: Tavener Alleluia, Quarter Peal, also on TH-cam). It has a similar choir drone effect.
This is the arrangement, it's only voices. It's sung by all four/eight parts, I recall (but it's been 25+ years since I've sung it). It's hard to do, and, to me, unfortunately, you can hear the choir laboring.
It's all a capella. The drone effect is created by the basses and baritones.
and the trebles and altos too, one octave higher.
I sang on this recording in 1993. It is written for unaccompanied choir. There is no organ part. What you are hearing are the boys' voices holding very long notes (drones), an idea which Tavener often uses because it comes from the tradition of Byzantine chant. It is a hugely difficult piece that requires serious athleticism, especially from the boys, to sustain the high notes.
Sublime...