Can we talk about the fact that Darren is actually so logical and not biased when it comes to Andrew because we all know he killed 5 people and they all deserved to live and that was very tragic. But the thing is you have to see both sides and Darren does that. I love him honestly
His acting made me feel sorry for Andrew. Andrew just wanted to please others and got lost in the meantime. What he did wasn’t right but he was a broken man
Kristina Ackley As all killers are. I think I never stopped being simply terrified of him. Maybe the only time I felt different was when the ex-military officer (I’m blanking on his name!) kissed him on the cheek and said love you buddy. I felt his perspective of Andrew deeply that he was just another goofy, high maintenance guy.
Pingu Nootson I guess having mental health issues myself I can see how easily those thoughts can consume you. He just wanted to be loved and excepted. It was very tragic for everyone. Again not saying what he did was right.
I've read Orth's book, Vulgar Favors, an investigative journalism where that ACS series was based on. I get to understand the side of the victims, as well as the side of Andrew Cunanan who was suffering from mental health disorder that was even triggered by his drug abuse. Andrew was used by many of his friends/acquaintances who were "enablers." Many of them (including Jeff and David) used Andrew. There were San Diego friends who said that Jeff owed Andrew several thousand dollars because, just like Andrew, Jeff was also addicted to expensive stuffs. If they really were true friends of Andrew, for old times' sake, they could have just supported him to change for the better, for an honest and healthy living. That's what friends are for. Many of them admitted that Andrew helped them a lot financially and emotionally. He did care for them, even visited them when they were sick. Andrew helped them to not feel alone and miserable being closeted homosexuals. As long as Andrew could, he made them feel happy always. From Vulgar Favors book: "The farewell dinner was a somewhat somber affair, as if Andrew were holding his own wake. Arthur Harrington, who, along with Higgins, brought a couple of bottles of Veuve Clicquot champagne, claiming that if it hadn’t been for Andrew no one at the table would have even gotten to know any of the others. “He was the glue that held us all together.” Eads recalls, “Two people made that comment. Andrew helped them not to feel alone.” If Andrew was a bad influence, then as a "real" friend, be a good influence to Andrew. At least, try to exert effort to be one. But instead, Jeff and David just turned their backs on Andrew, particularly during the time when Andrew was (financially) hard up and depressed. They didn't even care and dare to talk to Andrew about it. They just took advantage of Andrew, they undeniably did benefit from being associated with Andrew at some point. Both Jeff and David even let Andrew feel that they didn't want Andrew around, they maybe even have said hurtful words to Andrew before the tragedy happened. However, it is still a sin to kill people. Andrew is still the culprit in this incident. In 1997, we just hoped that Andrew asked for forgiveness from God before he committed suicide.
FROM VULGAR FAVORS BOOK: "Andrew had tried several times in the recent past to extend his stays in Minneapolis, but Jeff had always told him no. If Jeff didn’t want to have anything to do with him, and if David was rejecting him once again, Andrew was cornered. He had lavished time, attention, and money on both of them; he could not bear to think that he had been used. Now the two men he most cared for in the world were turning their backs on him, banishing him to struggle alone, insecure, depressed, and overweight. It was all their fault. They were forcing him to expose the sham of his grandiosity like a mangy peacock."
It's so weird how here he is normal, but charismatic, and on the show he is so charismatic and charming that it's not genuine and he comes across as a narcissistic pathological liar. Darren's got that role down to an art.
If it helps: I've been re-watching the old adorable youtube videos of him doing Disney covers on guitar in his college days to flush out the terror of Cunanan!Darren xD th-cam.com/video/C77jdPBjzM4/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/mVvdHvI9tuE/w-d-xo.html It really does say something though that, having been a huge fan of his for many years now and knowing what a sweetie he is, a few episodes of ACS and he's FREAKING ME THE HECK OUT!
alfred arroyo yeah you probably right. I guess I just felt intimidated by just so many good looking guys nowadays. Btw your name is really cute too.. Hahaha thanks
I met Andrew Cunanan while he was taking a break from killing Mr Miglan and the police never even came by the place I worked to question any of us . And yes he was very nice but spooky.
I worked at a restaurant a block from the Miglan home . The thing that has always intrigued me is that the police never bothered questioning any of us who worked at the many restaurants in that area . It's as though there was a cover up FOR Cunanan . I only figured out who I'd waited on a week later when his photo appeared in the paper .
He set off all kinds of red flags by his behavior . He was well dressed and well spoken and calm until he wasn't . Of all the thousands of people I waited on at that place all those years ago his is the only order I remember in its entirety along with the bill total and tip .
I see. I did he he had a bit of a temper. I read somewhere that he hit his mom or something when he was a kid. Really enjoying Darren Criss's performance on the show so far.
He is so beautiful- his role in Gianni Versace was so great 😀 I love him at the first moment and when he dance my heart was broken 💔 but he is not Gay - but in my Dreams and he was my Man 🥰
Although I am obsessed with the whole show (I've watched this season over four times already) and love Darren Criss as Andrew Cunanan, I remember learning about race in my Race and Class in Media course in college and how Hollywood gets criticized for white-washing, and, although Darren Criss is, just as Andrew Cunanan, mixed White and Filipino, there seems to be a little bit of "white-washing" going on. Darren Criss is clearly ethnically ambiguous, but he doesn't look East Asian at all as compared to Andrew Cunanan. Then, we have the younger version of Andrew Cunanan, played by Edouard Holdener, who looks way more East Asian than Darren Criss. Just an observation, and kinda wondered if anybody agreed. :)
darren criss is filipino-american, as was andrew cunanan. while there is a great deal of whitewashing in hollywood, i don't think casting darren in this show is a case of that
I'm so Colfersexual I forgot how hot Darren Criss was for a bit. Now I remember. Also, I watched the famous dancing-in-his-underwear scene on youtube and now I gotta see the whole show. I'm SOLD!
Sorry, but the decision to cut Old Prospecter sketch was a good decision. It was just a hot mess and much as I love Will Ferrell, it was just not funny. (Yeah, probably funny to be on the set.. but was just Will being a little self indulgent, imo)
It's interesting in a case like Andrew's, though, because there genuinely doesn't seem to be any indication that he was born with psychopathic traits. The more I learn and think about it, the more I think that he probably had something akin to Borderline Personality Disorder, with plenty of narcissism (no doubt largely contributed by his highly narcissistic father) mixed in. In any case, if the typical conception of psychopathy is that a psychopathic person doesn't have real emotions but only learns to fake them well.. I'd actually almost argue that it seems like Andrew was the opposite. Don't get me wrong, he was *absolutely* severely devoid of empathy in particular by the time he went on his killing spree, but the impression I get (from ACS Versace at least) is that his actions, brutal as they were, were stemming from an immense amount of genuine hurt and anger. So while his ability to empathize with others completely shut down at some point, it was very much emotions (not any lack thereof) that led him to go off the ledge into psychosis in the first place. So yeah... I don't actually doubt that he may well have been a genuinely good kid growing up. I mean, his father ingrained such narcissism in him that I'm sure that was there from early on, but in terms of the lack of empathy, I don't think everyone who becomes violent and devoid of empathy is always born that way. Sometimes, I'd imagine, it's a perfect storm of psychological instability, upbringing, and social surroundings that converges to set a person who might otherwise have been fine down that path.
Stephanie L I’ve been thinking BDP for him!!!! At least the way they portrayed the character. The way he regret hurting his mother. And the portrayal of his father in comparison to him. He was obviously more emotional than his father and had the potential to truly fall in love, unlike his dad who just saw numbers when he looked at people. Then the way he killed himself... isn’t that kind of rare for psychopaths?
Do You also hate Neil Patrick Harris because he played a straight man who was a womanizer on HIMYM for 9 seasons? Or Jim Parsons whose only claim to fame is playing a straight physicist on Big Bang Theory? Actors are just people playing characters, their sexuality is hardly ever relevant to the role they play, as long as they do the character justice.
Trump's dingle berries I realize you may think you're everyone but you're not! When the memo is released they're going to line up all your heroes and March their asses into prison! Comey, Hillary, Osama Obama, Muller, holder, xcetera! Nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, firing squad!
When you see Darren’s jacket and immediately think WARBLER??? 😂😂
Yesss mee
Grace Jinks Thats what I was thinking 😂
Yassss!!!
Can we talk about the fact that Darren is actually so logical and not biased when it comes to Andrew because we all know he killed 5 people and they all deserved to live and that was very tragic. But the thing is you have to see both sides and Darren does that. I love him honestly
His acting made me feel sorry for Andrew. Andrew just wanted to please others and got lost in the meantime. What he did wasn’t right but he was a broken man
Kristina Ackley As all killers are. I think I never stopped being simply terrified of him. Maybe the only time I felt different was when the ex-military officer (I’m blanking on his name!) kissed him on the cheek and said love you buddy. I felt his perspective of Andrew deeply that he was just another goofy, high maintenance guy.
Pingu Nootson I guess having mental health issues myself I can see how easily those thoughts can consume you. He just wanted to be loved and excepted. It was very tragic for everyone. Again not saying what he did was right.
I've read Orth's book, Vulgar Favors, an investigative journalism where that ACS series was based on.
I get to understand the side of the victims, as well as the side of Andrew Cunanan who was suffering from mental health disorder that was even triggered by his drug abuse.
Andrew was used by many of his friends/acquaintances who were "enablers." Many of them (including Jeff and David) used Andrew. There were San Diego friends who said that Jeff owed Andrew several thousand dollars because, just like Andrew, Jeff was also addicted to expensive stuffs.
If they really were true friends of Andrew, for old times' sake, they could have just supported him to change for the better, for an honest and healthy living. That's what friends are for. Many of them admitted that Andrew helped them a lot financially and emotionally. He did care for them, even visited them when they were sick. Andrew helped them to not feel alone and miserable being closeted homosexuals. As long as Andrew could, he made them feel happy always.
From Vulgar Favors book:
"The farewell dinner was a somewhat somber affair, as if Andrew were holding his own wake. Arthur Harrington, who, along with Higgins, brought a couple of bottles of Veuve Clicquot champagne, claiming that if it hadn’t been for Andrew no one at the table would have even gotten to know any of the others. “He was the glue that held us all together.” Eads recalls, “Two people made that comment. Andrew helped them not to feel alone.”
If Andrew was a bad influence, then as a "real" friend, be a good influence to Andrew. At least, try to exert effort to be one.
But instead, Jeff and David just turned their backs on Andrew, particularly during the time when Andrew was (financially) hard up and depressed. They didn't even care and dare to talk to Andrew about it. They just took advantage of Andrew, they undeniably did benefit from being associated with Andrew at some point. Both Jeff and David even let Andrew feel that they didn't want Andrew around, they maybe even have said hurtful words to Andrew before the tragedy happened.
However, it is still a sin to kill people. Andrew is still the culprit in this incident. In 1997, we just hoped that Andrew asked for forgiveness from God before he committed suicide.
FROM VULGAR FAVORS BOOK:
"Andrew had tried several times in the recent past to extend his stays in Minneapolis, but Jeff had always told him no. If Jeff didn’t want to have anything to do with him, and if David was rejecting him once again, Andrew was cornered. He had lavished time, attention, and money on both of them; he could not bear to think that he had been used. Now the two men he most cared for in the world were turning their backs on him, banishing him to struggle alone, insecure, depressed, and overweight. It was all their fault. They were forcing him to expose the sham of his grandiosity like a mangy peacock."
Did Darren Criss just interview Seth Meyers???
hahaha, pretty much! xD He would be a great talk show host! He's so charismatic and such an easy conversationalist ^__^
Darren was auditioning for Meyers job for the producers.
Hilarious lol
It's so weird how here he is normal, but charismatic, and on the show he is so charismatic and charming that it's not genuine and he comes across as a narcissistic pathological liar. Darren's got that role down to an art.
"You have to count the primary colours of this person..." The way he expresses himself! Such a smart and eloquent person!!!
This guy is so charismatic and intelligent. I love how he plugged Seth 😂♥💖😂
Natalee Steele he knows how to talk to him soo well and hes a SNL junkie xD
I think that’s the first time he’s said “my fiancé” instead of “my girlfriend” and I gotta admit I made a little squeal of delight.
He is such a good actor, now I'm actually scared of him
If it helps: I've been re-watching the old adorable youtube videos of him doing Disney covers on guitar in his college days to flush out the terror of Cunanan!Darren xD
th-cam.com/video/C77jdPBjzM4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/mVvdHvI9tuE/w-d-xo.html
It really does say something though that, having been a huge fan of his for many years now and knowing what a sweetie he is, a few episodes of ACS and he's FREAKING ME THE HECK OUT!
Watch glee and you’ll be perfectly fine
As you should be 😂
@@lexx.stormm Or A Very Potter Musical trilogy
Rsrsrsrs, por que Tu está com medo Dele, Ele apenas ganhou o 💰💸 Dele, o outro verdeiro, morreu 👹👿👻😵💀☠️
Get Darren Criss on snl
Lord He slayed the role of Andrew Cunanan
th-cam.com/video/cKoIESw1tdM/w-d-xo.html
Old prospector SNL video for those who are curious.
Hilarious btw.
The Satyr thanks😊
Give him an Emmy!
Emmy -check 🏆☑️
@@michelehaber61 Golden Globe - chek 😄
When you can't decide if you wanna wear your jogging suit or your tuxedo.
New Message Like Sue Sylvester’s wedding dress in “Glee.”
LMBO!!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@@cordeliapalmer5800 🤣😭😭😭😂😂😂
A jogxedo!!!!
He is so down to earth and will be a Triple Threat in Hollywood.
It's Harry Freaking Potter!
im so happy he is getting so much promotion he deserves it way too much
Hmmmm, he is too good on Versace. Creepy
my favourite fanboy
I love him! I fist saw him in a very potter musical and then glee and now this ❤️
I LOVE HIM SO MUCH GO DARREN ❤✊
He's so totally awesome 🤙
This guy is one of the best actors ive ever seen in my life!
It's Harry Freakin' Potter!
"....my fiancee and I...." I'm dead #miarrenforever
Michi R5 i had to stop the video,scream,squeal,squeak,die and then come back and continue and tbh that happens every time he mentions her
+Tanya M same
Yeah happy birthday to me
how long have they dated?
+Anonymous Human seven and a half almost eight years
I gotta get back to hogwarts, gotta get back to school...
Glaucia Mesquita I gotta get back to Hogwarts, Where everybody knows I’m cool!
love the red line on his trousers and jacket
I smiled so much when he referred Mia as his fiancee!!!
Roberta Korse wait he's not gay?
No, he`s engaged to a girl named Mia:)
kotur28 why the hell would he need a beard. It 2019 now
@kotur28 no she's not.
Harry’s all grown up :,(
He’s so well spoken
His so perfect. I hate him for that.
alfred arroyo why is that?
alfred arroyo yeah you probably right. I guess I just felt intimidated by just so many good looking guys nowadays. Btw your name is really cute too.. Hahaha thanks
alfred arroyo hahaha.. I thought you knew. And how on earth i could be that hot.. I'm just ordinary asian looking guy.
did he say fiancee? is he and mia finally getting married? yay!
Liranamosh Yes they finally are engaged! Now we have to wait for the wedding.
He was phenomenal!!
He was sooo believable in glee and Versace as a Gay character and what a voice. He nailed the killer of Versace! Just brilliant
I met Andrew Cunanan while he was taking a break from killing Mr Miglan and the police never even came by the place I worked to question any of us . And yes he was very nice but spooky.
You actually met him? Can you tell me how? I am very interested
I worked at a restaurant a block from the Miglan home . The thing that has always intrigued me is that the police never bothered questioning any of us who worked at the many restaurants in that area . It's as though there was a cover up FOR Cunanan . I only figured out who I'd waited on a week later when his photo appeared in the paper .
vasp99 Wow. That's nuts. Was there anything at all about that seemed off or did he just seem like a normal dude?
He set off all kinds of red flags by his behavior . He was well dressed and well spoken and calm until he wasn't . Of all the thousands of people I waited on at that place all those years ago his is the only order I remember in its entirety along with the bill total and tip .
I see. I did he he had a bit of a temper. I read somewhere that he hit his mom or something when he was a kid. Really enjoying Darren Criss's performance on the show so far.
I saw that move (7 series), he was great. He played very very good.
I love the show so much!
He is so beautiful- his role in Gianni Versace was so great 😀 I love him at the first moment and when he dance my heart was broken 💔 but he is not Gay - but in my Dreams and he was my Man 🥰
my crush sorry I love him..
I love him too!
Although I am obsessed with the whole show (I've watched this season over four times already) and love Darren Criss as Andrew Cunanan, I remember learning about race in my Race and Class in Media course in college and how Hollywood gets criticized for white-washing, and, although Darren Criss is, just as Andrew Cunanan, mixed White and Filipino, there seems to be a little bit of "white-washing" going on. Darren Criss is clearly ethnically ambiguous, but he doesn't look East Asian at all as compared to Andrew Cunanan. Then, we have the younger version of Andrew Cunanan, played by Edouard Holdener, who looks way more East Asian than Darren Criss. Just an observation, and kinda wondered if anybody agreed. :)
darren criss is filipino-american, as was andrew cunanan. while there is a great deal of whitewashing in hollywood, i don't think casting darren in this show is a case of that
Hi Darren Criss I love your voice the song is beautiful song Is some where only we know that song is so beautiful
I love the Versace medusa head and that's the only reason I want people to buy me Versace stuff..
Warbler Blaine a few years later😂. No only me?
Very cool interview ❤️👌🏽
Love him
He’s Harry freakin’ Potter!
I fell in love with him 😍💜
INCREDIBLE ACTOR,,,,,CUTE ,,,NICE,,,,,I LOVE YOU 🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
I need that suit/tux
watching this now.... so why he didn´t speak about his glee cast member? he was a good guy when they meet and work together for years or not ¿?
daiana pricolo I think that episode was recorded the night before Mark died
Darren Cris is so beautiful wtf
BLOODY HELL! IT'S HARRY POOOOTTTTERRRRR!!! 😱
i read that in Joey Richter's(Ron) voice.
well well well, here it is guys, 'my fiancee and I' #miarren
Oh cinnamon and gravy!
Dam only 56 views?
Darren is very nice guy ,,,,,perfect gay ,,,,,perfect imitation
Shape weird serving xevyxq one chronic switch jacket before agency regulate progress commander.
I always thought he was gay.
I think he is still "in the character"
That clip is awkward. Omg Seth is not the only one trying not to crack up
I'm so Colfersexual I forgot how hot Darren Criss was for a bit. Now I remember. Also, I watched the famous dancing-in-his-underwear scene on youtube and now I gotta see the whole show. I'm SOLD!
Sorry, but the decision to cut Old Prospecter sketch was a good decision.
It was just a hot mess and much as I love Will Ferrell, it was just not funny. (Yeah, probably funny to be on the set.. but was just Will being a little self indulgent, imo)
Any starkid fans?
HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
He was really creepy. Good job
Muy simpatico
❤️
If Darren is straight so am I....*PING PING PING*
habbogigi well, then you are.
habbogigi
His fiancee is Mia Swier
He actually is straight, he married a woman and he says so in an interview on Ellen
Darren, it is called being a psychopath..of course he was "friendly likable talkative"... he has 147 IQ... which he used very "good"
It's interesting in a case like Andrew's, though, because there genuinely doesn't seem to be any indication that he was born with psychopathic traits. The more I learn and think about it, the more I think that he probably had something akin to Borderline Personality Disorder, with plenty of narcissism (no doubt largely contributed by his highly narcissistic father) mixed in.
In any case, if the typical conception of psychopathy is that a psychopathic person doesn't have real emotions but only learns to fake them well.. I'd actually almost argue that it seems like Andrew was the opposite. Don't get me wrong, he was *absolutely* severely devoid of empathy in particular by the time he went on his killing spree, but the impression I get (from ACS Versace at least) is that his actions, brutal as they were, were stemming from an immense amount of genuine hurt and anger. So while his ability to empathize with others completely shut down at some point, it was very much emotions (not any lack thereof) that led him to go off the ledge into psychosis in the first place.
So yeah... I don't actually doubt that he may well have been a genuinely good kid growing up. I mean, his father ingrained such narcissism in him that I'm sure that was there from early on, but in terms of the lack of empathy, I don't think everyone who becomes violent and devoid of empathy is always born that way. Sometimes, I'd imagine, it's a perfect storm of psychological instability, upbringing, and social surroundings that converges to set a person who might otherwise have been fine down that path.
Stephanie L I’ve been thinking BDP for him!!!! At least the way they portrayed the character. The way he regret hurting his mother. And the portrayal of his father in comparison to him. He was obviously more emotional than his father and had the potential to truly fall in love, unlike his dad who just saw numbers when he looked at people. Then the way he killed himself... isn’t that kind of rare for psychopaths?
He did the part really good. But he is nor gay in real life.
Bambiii he’s straight
A straight man who's made his living off of playing gay. Give me a break.
Do You also hate Neil Patrick Harris because he played a straight man who was a womanizer on HIMYM for 9 seasons? Or Jim Parsons whose only claim to fame is playing a straight physicist on Big Bang Theory? Actors are just people playing characters, their sexuality is hardly ever relevant to the role they play, as long as they do the character justice.
Get over it wow he’s an actor.
An actor made a living pretending to be someone else. Shocking
hate this show! must shut off asap!!!
Wow! not shiting on our president, What's the problem?
T. Shrine whiney Trumptard. Everyone hates him, deal with it
Trump's dingle berries I realize you may think you're everyone but you're not! When the memo is released they're going to line up all your heroes and March their asses into prison! Comey, Hillary, Osama Obama, Muller, holder, xcetera! Nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey, firing squad!
Trump's dingle berries PS 🖕😬
T. Shrine HAHAHAHAHAHA you are the worst type of person: low IQ, but an Internet connection.
Lmao the post script. Just a friendly reminder, no one is going to get killed. Even if they were to get convicted, they would be pardoned.
Ewww...I don't like Darren Criss's profile. Yuck.