Ibis Ripmo AF Review - 2020 Bible of Bike Tests
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2019
- It’s too bad we keep talking about what a great value the Ibis Ripmo AF is. That misses the point, which is that it’s just a great bike. Ridiculously capable, effortlessly manageable. And did we mention it’s a great value? Find the full review and much, much more at BikeMag.com.
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Like the bikes themselves, each annual iteration of bikemag's tests has improved significantly. This is their first year of testing where I felt like they weren't talking in circles and openly stated which bikes (they thought) were "best." And the mic issues are long gone, to the point where the mics are clipping at higher volume levels.
I really dig what Ibis did here. Carbon umm not really needed, top end spec not needed. Proper geo and suspension right on. They put the money into components that really matter, you can always upgrade brakes, dropper as you get faster.
Right, just get the cheap stuff first. Beat the bike up, wear that stuff out. When you're ready to upgrade, you still have an excellent frame.
Exactly JC! Looking at new bikes for my son to do enduro's on but still have fun riding regular trails here too. This one of the 29er's we're looking at.
Exactly. Aluminum is fantastic, and I prefer it versus a carbon bike if it means I can have better suspension and other components. Plus, IMO, it takes a beating better than carbon... and the weight between Al vs Carbon isn't *that* different these days...
I am that person that “stumbled upon this bike”. I started looking for a replacement for my 13 yo SC Superlight and heard about the AF from visiting two bike shops. Needless to say the two bikes are light years apart in every category and the only thing I can say is WOW!!
I am lucky that Ibis came out with this “lower priced” option at a time that I was looking to upgrade.
Thanks for the review. It makes me feel better about spending $3K. Well, only slightly better.
Great review, it always brings creedence to the objectiveness of all of your reviews when your reviewers dont hold themselves back from saying that they really love a bike, or that is their class favorite - it comes across as genuine. Sounds paradoxical but when every bike is "kinda of good in these aspects, and kinda bad in these, we kinda like it" then the audience feels their being led along by publishers who dont want to piss off bike brands. I didnt get that this year with this review or most of the other bike reviews. Great work guys
Kudos to IBIS, a high-end company, for putting this bike out there. I can finally recommend a new build to my friends without scaring them away from the sport completely.
Dude in centre hardly acknowledges dude on his left.
All I know is I can't wait to try one, and man I hope it fits. Hightower AL D with SX, budget wheels, and low-mid tier suspension for $2,900; Ripmo with NX, good wheels (although 35mm holy hell, would have loved an option for S28), and top tier DVO for $3,000? The HT in blue does look amazing though...
Ibis could kill their competitors and change the industry if they take this model to their other bikes.
Good video but I think most of us would like to see you guys in action giving some instant feed back and opinions while riding.
I’m seriously considering on getting one of these!!
Just ordered mine as my first full suspension...only had Walmart bikes before this...can’t wait
Love the review here. You guys covered as much as you possibly in 8 minutes. It is hard not to love a Ripmo, especially one that is only $3k. If I had this $3k Ripmo I would ride it as is and only upgrade when the parts break.
I’m new and just stumbled on this bike ,man now I have to buy it.
Good video guys.
Just ordered mine online a few days ago.
It's a great formula Ibis has used, and has vaulted this bike into serious consideration for me to replace my 14-year-old 40lb Kona, so like you mentioned, I could be counted as "new to mountain biking" (at least where it's progressed in the last 10 years). As I've been shopping around like crazy for over a year now, a lot of companies get the price down by offering low-tier suspension, which is the most expensive part besides the frame, and makes sense to cut price there. But since that's the thing that would make the most difference in ride feel to upgrade, but would take 30-50% of what the bike cost originally to do so, a lot of people (including myself) probably wouldn't. So that's what I love about this bike: that I wouldn't have to make the most expensive upgrade anytime soon (if ever)! Sure, I could put AXS on it, which would cost more than a fork, but in my opinion, past the GX/XT8100 level, returns seem to rapidly diminish, so with this bike, I'd be looking at maybe upgrading brakes, maybe going to a Hydra rear hub, and adding Cushcore, but that would be it for the forseeable future, and I love that!
The SLX build looks super sweet!!
Yes bike brands, more bikes with awesome suspension, at this price point. The masses don’t care as much about high quality brakes and drivetrain.
I just ordered one. Now with Deore 4 piston brakes and drivetrain. Even better spec for slightly more money in my opinion. Can't wait!
I hope they make a Ripley AF.
I want all their models in AF
Holy shit. Take my money
@@justinonyt ikr same
Welp, your dream just came true today 😂
Well, they're making em now, but good look finding one... Still waiting on mine (just the frame)
Getting one of these next weekend so stoked
I have mine already,most silent bike I've had ,climbs good and descends like a real enduro bike
My old ibis hd3 used to have a twitchy back end at speed, is this the same?
If it’s not an enduro bike it should climb better than good
@bikemagazine how would you compare the ripmo AF to the Santa Cruz hightower aluminum R build?
Would you get this for the $3000 or would you spend your money on a last years 2019 Norco sight a1 for the same price?
Would you suggest getting the Ripmo AF with the coil shock?
You guys reviewed the Fezzari La Sal Peak last year. Does the Ripmo AF climb better than the La Sal Peak? Fezzari has lifetime frame warranty. The Comp build is 3600.00 These are the 2 bikes I am considering.
My Ripmo AF rattled bad. It was the internal routed cables. I pulled tension where they come out and put double zip ties on cables. No more internal rattle.
I split my summer months between mtb riding and motocross. Winter months I’m a skier!
Late to the party but you mentioned a good bike for New England. Thinking of the short, rooty/rocky climbs and similar descents with tech features in between requiring manuals to get up on rocks, stalling the bike to change direction, etc, does the Ripmo make sense as a New England gnar bike? Not enduro, not trail but something in between that can be pedaled for 4 to 14 miles of chunk. Think Beverly Commons, HP, etc
How's it compare/differ from the Norco Sight?
For this price what other bikes are in the running. Or is this the bike you spend your $3000 on?
I have one and it’s great. I would love to know the exact suspension settings you guys used as I find dialing in a bit tricky. Would be great if you could send them in an answer. Cheers
Call DVO. Those guys will get you dialed in.
Wow I think I might know what my next bike will be
So my fat ass is running at Specialized Fuse right now. So far so good, but want to upgrade to full suspension now. I'm 280lbs now, but training for weight lose. I should hit 230-220 for a final weight (I carry a lot of muscle from years of weight training). Will this bike work for me at these weights?
what brand is that jumper and cap?
I haven't ridden the AF, but the guys echo what I keep hearing, this is an amazing bike, 3k or not.
David C i got one this fall. I was coming from an Enduro with XX1 and thought I might be compromising. However, my apprehension was completely unfounded. The NX build is a little clunky, but it works really well. I did put some SRAM Code Rs on it along with a Deity bar, Deity Grips, and a Wolftooth dropper lever. The suspension takes a bit to get dialed, but the base tunes are just fine.
Great review cant wait for mine
I’m looking for a SRAM Gx or Shimano Xt for about $5300 max with 160/150 travel
Ibis came out and fucking smashed it with this bike. Can't wait to buy one!
@1:55 I wish it was in raw aluminum! (It's actually painted silver).
Good point. Tempting to raw and/or polish one, though.
Bravo ibis.
Ibis is on 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
too bad you didn't explain more of how the bike performed i.e. cornering, jumping, climbing etc
well so much for me getting a yt.
I have a Jeffsy but this bad boy is a contender for my next bike for sure!
which one do you think is better? and which versions are you comparing
@@zacg2953 basically any bike around $3000 canyon made an aluminum one as well but i feel that yt has better quality
I assume it was pretty heavy, was that painful to deal with? Would you guys rather have the Ripmo NX (4399 I think) or the Ripmo AF NX (3k) / SLX (4k)?
It was pretty heavy at 33.3 pounds without pedals, but definitely not painful to deal with until we were on terrain that was far below the Ripmo AF's ideal gnar factor. But if price were no object, the carbon Ripmo really isn't any less capable just because it's a little more steep and a lot more carbon-y. As for which one to get, the SLX AF or the NX Carbon, we'd say it comes down to whether you value a bike's versatility (in this case, both its performance in mellower, slow-speed tech-y-er situations and its stability in burly high-speed sections) enough to be willing to upgrade some parts later. But if all you do is charge, get the SLX Ripmo AF.
Bike Magazine thanks for the reply :). I was chomping at the bit for bible to come out!
I keep hearing this heavy thing, but I’ve been climbing mine up our crazy ascents here in Colorado without an issue.
I bought the NX Carbon in October as an upgrade from my SB5.5 and haven't looked back. I thought i'd hate the NX but i haven't missed GX at all. I haven't ridden the RIpmo AF yet but my backup bike is a 2018 Pivot Switchblade (Aluminum) and I do prefer the carbon's weight and efficiency over aluminum.
I want to demo one!
I went to an Ibis Demo, and they only had one! They were pushing their other bikes more.
They're not making any money on this one. Probably a loss leader.
@@epicwarrior1018 I agree and a great loss leader at that...in my shitty .02 worth opinion.
Those of you who have the Ripmo AF and are "Ibis fans", how does it pedal generally? Is it true that it pedals great up and down?
The reason i'm asking, is that I'm facing a dillema: My V1 Ripley frame just cracked and am debating what to do next. I love the Ripley, it suits me perfectly and was offered a replacement frame at a discounted rate. However , I like the stability of the Ripmo. If the AF climbs relatively well, I may grab one. Or I might just go all in and get the new Ripley.
I was thinking of keeping my V1 as a backup bike once it's fixed if I get the Ripmo. If I get the new Ripley I might as well sell it. I would appreciate your input! :-)
160/150 is closer to an enduro than an all-rounder for beginners?
@fino true.
@fino Is the SLX build worth the extra money?? What about the wheel upgrades?
@@epicwarrior1018 no it is not, for 1000 more you can buy new brakes dropper and full gx , sell the old stuff and have like an extra 300 bucks
@@stevecabrera6718 Yeah, if you were going to upgrade I would strip that stuff and sell the kit, put money towards whatever you want..Or just ride it like it is; it should still work great with current spec.
@@stevecabrera6718 then add the new freehub plus brakes and you are at the same price point again.
If you like all of the slx build parts it's sort of worth, if you know what custom parts you want or have something lying around the nx one costs less
What is the life expectancy for an aluminum frame? New to mtb, just curious.
id say alot longer than carbon
Esteban Cabrera false!! Carbon life expectancy is infinite and will never lose its shape or form. Not the same for aluminum!!
@@mr02gixxer1000 true but hereis the thing withan agressive bike like this your bound to crash eventually. And when you crash carbon will fail first. Au just dents and is still ridable
Esteban Cabrera false again crash many times on my carbon bikes no problems. A good carbon frame from a reputable brand will be stronger than any aluminum frame, and any impact that destroy a carbon frame will destroy any metal frames out there! Also carbon can be repaired if there is a crack, not so much with aluminum! I would by the bike with the carbon frame and and upgrade the parts on it as I wear them out. However not to say AF now a days are not good, an AF from a reputable brand will last a long time and many of these brand offers life time warranty so it’s still a win for those who prefer AF bikes.
@@mr02gixxer1000 hmmm ive actually never heard of carbin frames being fixed. How much would that cost? And another thing that scares me is how when carbon fails it fails catostrphically. And btw dont get me wrong id still get a carbin frame.
Should review the frames only. As it's the only thing the brands offer.
Tony, the majority of bike sales in this day and age are completes. This bike is available as a frame, an NX, GX, or SLX complete. I think it's cool that they tested what people actually buy. Besides, it has Ibis house brand wheels, stem, and handlebar on it.
Its almost like this bike makes aluminum cool, and CF pretentious. Its like if I had this bike at the top of the hill and a guy pulled up next to me with the CF version, 10K built....I would not be jealous, I would almost smile and feel more bad ass than him. I would still take the CF version though :)
What about the Nukeproof Mega 290 2020?
I wish they would review either the 27.5 or 29 nukeproof
different machine
How about climbing and all day rides? Concerned about the weight
Micarmn same here. This bike is on the top of my list. However, I hear great things about climbing with the DW LINK and DVO shock combo. As for weight, I hear it's not really an issue when you're riding.
N Q I had a talk with an Ibis rep and he said he hasn’t heard anyone complain about weight and difficulty climbing. At the end of the day 35lbs is 35lbs though so idk
Is the 33.3 # weight with or without pedals? I'm assuming without. My Trek Slash 8 is a very similar travel (F 160, R 150) aluminum bike. It weighs 32.8#s with the same spec Maxxis(EXO Assegai/Aggressor) tires and with pedals. It's under 32 without pedals. I was hoping this Ripmo was closer in weight, I wouldn't want to go up in weight for such a similar travel bike.
Yep, weight is without pedals and set up tubeless on a large-size frame.
Ripmo af comes with exo+
i have an xl with a coil and it was at 33.6 and thats with a double down casing and no pedals. if your worried about one poud this isnt the bike or price range for you. and having owned 3 treks the last being a 2019 remedy i will say they are complete shite, and do not even compare in quality and performance to the ibis. Just look at the geo. its a joke.
Is this the Ibis 2019 or the model 2020?
This is first aluminum frame ibis has made in yrs. It didn't exist in 2019.
Manny L got it
Ibis Ripmo AF vs Santa Cruz 5010 Aluminium S+ build (27.5)? Go
Ripmo AF hands down
DVO suspension is superior in every respect.
I still don't know whether to go with the Jade or the Topaz, any thought on this?
Felipe Farias I went with the Topaz because I didn’t want to have to go down the coil spring rabbit hole.
Coil all day, it pedals great
I've been running the coil for two weeks and it's really planted, would the topaz make the bike more poppy/agile without sacrificing too much of the plushness and traction that the coil offers?
I will probably go Topaz just to not mess with different spring weights
@@richardulrich7142 you should be good with one spring for basically all riding unless you're a serious racer. My one spring is great for shuttle days as well as long pedal days (the compression modes works great). The flip side of your comment would be "I'll just get the coil so I don't ever have to mess with any shock setup again". I've had the topaz as well though, it's a great shock. Can't go wrong.
Cool AF !
My cat and myself were caught off guard by the background music. Though a cat was meowing outside
hope update new bike
I'm definitely a person who has carbon anxiety. I don't crash a lot but when I do it's usually down a hill 🤣
2 years later and it was more expensive than quality bikes are now... People really didn't do their homework when they called this a good deal
I’m curious which bikes you’re referring to? The 2023 is 2700, older models as low as $2350 that I’ve seen, and it still seems to be one of the best bikes in that price range.
Now Ibis need to release a Ripmo CF, that same Geo but in Carbon, whilst keeping the standard Geo Ripmo Carbon for they who only need a Ripley on steroids.
Stanner They just did!
@@christopherlee4817 Yep and that one is not cheap anymore :)
Nice to see a quality bike at a reasonable price . To me a high end bike for most people is a waste of money. Unless you’re a hardcore rider that has access to quality trails three times a week and know you’re going to keep it for five years .
Sadly this will never be known as the Ripmo Alluminum Frame and always as the Ripmo As F%@€!
Wild Outdoor Living That’s what I was thinking
Why is that sad? Pretty amusing.
Having said that, the reviewers don't say just how "good" the ripmo AF is compared to bikes 2x or 3x the price. Is it 80% as good? 90%? 95%??
As an owner id say a good 87 percent only draw back is the weight. But given i have the coil version. Most high end bikes dont keep up unless they have an 11.6
Also you really dont notice the weight
Esteban Cabrera I’ve got one on order and trying to decide between coil or air shock. Any thoughts?
@@JP-mp5st The coil is supposed to be better for small bump sensitivity and more plush overall. The air shock is better for pedaling efficiency.
@@JP-mp5st so if you look on the dvo site they have an new air shock that has the same damper as the jade x the most recent one. The 2020 ripmp af comes with the old air shock. The coil is ofcourse heavier but has the light spring already included which is anotber 100 bucks. On open it pedals well on trail it pedals perfectly. On climb it feels like a hardtail and i dont use it because its too rough on my butt on long techy climbs. But that just goes to show how well it preforms. Its honestly amazing. Is it less progressive? Yes ofcourse it goes through its travel faster but even on like 7 foot hucks with minimal landing i have yet to find the bottom. As a bery agressive rider i love it the small bump sensitivity is just amazing it eats anything in its path and is honestly out preforming all of my buddies 7000 dollar bikes. Sure they have carbon but if youve ever ridden an e bike you know how much more stable the extra weight is on chunky downhills. I will say this get the nx version the rest are rip offs. With a 1000 extra bucks you can buy code rsc and a one up dropper and sell the old stuff and so on. So yea i love mine i wouldn't change a thing when i want it to be poppy i just put it on trail mode and when i wanna smash though chunky stuff i put it on open. Any other specifics just ask brother.
stock bike tire review doesn't say much. this review doesn't say much.
Ripmo af or YT Jeffsey?
Ripmo AF hands down
@@christianpratt9728 I'm thinking the same. I also dig the Canyon Spectral.
Considering both bikes also but now after seeing the 2020 al Jeffsy, YT made the decision easy with how entry level they specd it. Ripmo AF all the way. Way better components for a few hundred more.
@@brentcheever1672 Yep but you get carbon frame on the YT .. just to put things in perspective
Love reviews but watching portrait pic quality of lonely bikes and more time vid framing guys chit chatting on a bike instead of them chatting in the back ground while viewing a pro rider or even them scoot-tin on the bike their chit chatting about... I mean wow who gets paid = say CD that's me lol
Nice, but the XL version really looks weird. Fugley bike
I wish it wasn't ugly 😭
None of my friends are willing to spend more than $1500 on a bike, and we're in our 30's.
Well ... , that will get you a good hardtail or 1500 average will buy you a rear shock and fork .., that's about it .., but then another 1500 will not even buy you a rear suspension frame to build up and most come with the rear shock .. When you're ready to spend 1500 , save for another six months , and when you're ready I'd find a build with a GX group-set , but that's me .. Investigate all the manufacturers and support gear with the build , mostly You'll find that 2500 is their starting point . Peace brother fatskins !..
Buy used many great deals
Some people love the gear side of the sport, some people don’t care what they ride. My father-in-law can’t believe how much I spend on a new build...this is coming from a man who bought a new 80k dollar bass boat and uses it about twice a year.
I mean I’m willing and have .... multiple times and am 29 ;P
@@michaelkay4464 Yeah, I feel bad for them. My garage is chock full of bikes lol. I let them borrow mine cuz I want them to experience mountain biking.
Carboniphobes unite!!
Total fanboy review
Say what you want, AF stands for As Fuck and always will.
You gotta work on these vids guys. The standing around and talking isn’t very appealing or interesting. It’s dull and you should just narrate and show more of the riding while discussing the bike.
Everyone does that. The fireside chat style is just fine. It's different and I think it appeals to a lot of people.
Blah blah blah
Cheap ? It cost over 3 grand lol
That IS cheap for a DW link bike with top-end suspension from a premium brand.
33 pounds? 3k?affordable? You can get a 28 pounds for 3k! No way getting ibis bike ever!
:D
Wow a bunch of nobodys making a bike ad standing in a parking lot. Who are these guys?