Love the video, when you were putting in the earth rod you mentioned that you'd put in the notes where you could get the utility plans showing where underground cables were located but can't see a link. Would you be able to add a link when you get a sec. Thanks
With your earth rods, we’ve been running with a 1m 12mm sds bit in the ground first. Just helps pave the way for the earth rods 14mm while using that sds bit to drive the rod in.
Hey Tom, sorry for tooting you this morning just taking my son to great ormond st hospital for a check up, and who do I see Tom the spark. don’t come to London very often . I watch all your vids ! Keep up the good work 👍 Dan the spark
I use one of those rod driving bits in an SDS similar to yours. It's not amazing but it keeps the rod going down while I rest. I don't put a lot of rods in but the last one took over an hour so alternating hammer and SDS made huge difference to me still having a wrist capable of turning a screwdriver afterwards! If you're wondering why it took so long, packed urban area where the DNO refused to provide an earth (looked like there used to be TN-S but no more), which in that environment where there houses are so squashed together seems pretty bad to me. But hey-ho no choice but to rod into tough ground full of rubble, put an 8ft rod down to try and find some decent ground further down, and just pray not to hit any services. Horrible job! Managed to get about 40ohms, about same they'd been getting via the pipework (only earthing they had when I got there) just by a recognised means now, admittedly in wet ground but this was in December so waiting to test dry wasn't an option.
Random question why Do you install the earth rod locally when the earthing protection is provided through the supply and Swa? Is the house a TT System?
I've had the 36v Bosch sds for about 5 years, brilliant bit of kit, very powerful. All my tools are bosch, apart from the radio, as I wanted dab, I bought the dewalt t stak radio, sound is excellent, I already had dewalt torches, so already had the batteries.
+1 for Tom & Nom Nom getting it done. I don't know if it's legal there, but in some areas of the states, we can use heavy wall copper pipe for ground stake. Sweat on a fitting, attach a hose & valve, & let the ground stake drive it's own hole. When done, cut off the fitting & save the valve for the next one. (Fittings can usually be recovered with a blow torch & a bit of dremeling.
With a cherry picker, one thing to consider is that if vehicle's MAM is above 3500kg, it's a totally different class of vehicle. You can't drive it with just the "B" license. So all new hires have to have C1 or C. And few rules that apply to the vehicle are different. If I recall correctly, speed limit is different, and also - more enforceble i.e. way higher fines and much lower tolerances
Most likely not your decision and I get that but... If public supply fails, the resident has to find a torch and go upstairs to manually switch to the generator? Wouldn't an auto-contactor have been a better, yet more expensive, option? Also WiFi security cameras? Only as an absolute last option. (My opinion - not necessarily the same as anyone else 😁)
galvanic corrosion will destroy the bolt, so the brass bolt is better for future, Also if you paint the earth clamp after its installed with galv spray it'll last longer and will be serviceable
Not having a bash .. genuinley curious .. Why did you install a distribution board rather than a consumer unit in the property ? Was it down to the amount of circuits or had some 3 phase power to run ?
I agree with him using a vertical DB instead of split load or a double consumer, sometimes having that extra space and a little bit more 'grit' in the board saves you money on labour, just may get a bit expensive when it comes down to rcbo's. All preference in this game, sometimes penny pinching on materials can mess you up on the install!
Looks like you're going to have loads of fun I had my own fun today had to replace 100 of BX cable post knob and tube wire basically it had a phantom trip
I really enjoy your channel...I assume that genset interface is a break before make type. Can your test equipment detect bucking voltages from multiple sources back feeding?
Tom enjoy you’re video and you’re attitude also I use a Bosch 11305 I bought in a pawn shop for 50 dollars with no bits and turned into a ground rod driver works great
Isn't it beter ( if the generator have ats) to put an ATS box in, ( Automatic Transfer Switch ) so, if the power of the steert break down, the generator will switch automatic on? And yes, you will need a big drill machine with an sds! We put easy 15M of copper in. ( sorry for my English, if it isn't correct 😬)
Don't see a problem replacing the bolt with a stainless one, we mix metals all the time, look at steel conduit brass bushes, swa glands steel lock nuts, the earth rod is steel copper coated.
If putting the board at that end please cable basket the run :) get SDS to normal Chuck, then use for rods or drilling etc. Cheap earth pit is a 110mm pipe with screw end and get push fit extensions. CCTV depends if for crime, one good camera (Dahua/Hikvision are the good cheap end, MOBOTIX/Pelco is Schneider to go with that board/ Avigilon etc is high end) is better than 4 "HD" ones, if for checking the chucks then that kit fine. Pause a frame and check the quality :) (from the man moaning about cheap batteries and blue roll) keep up the good work.
I agree about the brass bolts, I had a Ze of 1900 ohms, and it kept jumping from reading to reading, turned out to be a snapped bolt so I replaced it with a stainless one. I wonder if temperature change gets to them?
I've worked with the maps you refer to and can tell you they hardly getting updated especially when emergency works are done. Used to hate update the laptops with them every 3 months...
Thom do you make these videos for for the benefit of budding electritions? Or do you make them so the many cowboy sparks out there can carry on fecking things up and then you have to go and put thing right and make it safe? Just a thought. Great videos, if you have any of the old ROBIN testers you want to get rid of I would be very interested.
Tom - do they make a generator / mains switch that is automatic that allows for automatic switching and still following the regs? I think you need a jackhammer to drive the earth rods. Or an industrial vibrator but no one can hold it, put enough vibratory energy behind it and it will liquefy the earth but it is happy to liquefy anything that tries to hold it.
@@ukpm remember how old our country is there's shit everywhere and a plumber doesn't have to update where he has moved pipes he should but not enforced
You can do a statutory undertaker search in the UK too, but it only shows the public utilities, not the private electric/telephone cables and gas/drain pipes on private land.
Don’t buy a iveco they are very expensive to use, if it’s the one with Satnav then they crash a lot and if you get a blank screen that’s it you will loose your speedo etc until you have a new one fitted for over £1000 they are not smooth running and spring oil leaks everywhere. Good van with unlimited miles is a merc but get a plate welded around the ecu as all you need to do, too nick them is change the ecu to one you have the key for! Very easily accessed from underneath.
So that rod you were driving in which is just rebar, there was no link before to introduce what it was and then it is in and now instead is an earth rod with a cap. Earth is a mystery to me and now more interesting that this sufficed, barely 2 foot I imagine, very slim. Can you help me with the details of what it was and how it was tested to be okay kinda thing?
I watched a linesman drive an 8m (ish) ground rod (to go with a fresh power pole and transformer for an industrial service) in with a nice big Bosch. I also told the guy he was aiming right at the 600mm regional high pressure water main. He dismissed me as an ignorant digger. I'd spent the last 3 months working up and down that ditch-line lowering phone cables and dodging the service shut-off valves and hydrant controls. Sure enough he punctured the line and within minutes there was almost ankle deep water everywhere, and a massive crater full of water where his ground rod was supposed to be...
It's odd to me that what would be considered to be an oversized panel (board) England is the same size of your smaller load centers in North America...
15:48 - I'd go a drill hole 1/2 way up off the ground on the rod. Solder the sh*t out of that connection. Wire is free on both sides. Solder everything hard with little flux. I think there will be deportation with the freeze thaw cycle but giving options to the potential twat next is good.
Why drive a separate ground rod? In the States, putting in a separate ground rod is illegal. We are only allowed to drive ground rods at the main service entrance. Everything after that is bonded back to the main earth.
I’m guessing it is to divorce the PME earth (earth connected to neutral) from the shed earth. I thought you guys could put an extra rod in on outbuildings?
Hi tom, about that manual transfer switch between mains and gen, that thing will interrupt the power, not sure if that's a customer choice but you can get cheap synchronisation systems. Or a other option: a (commanded) ATS, use a mains controlling relay to start the gen, the ATS will switch to gen power automatically, when grid is back it will go back to mains. Sad to hear that gridfeeding is not accepted there, nothing is better than see your meter going backwards. ^^
Hey Tom you know how most people who “save” spiders and put them out side ... well you’ll be happy to know most house can’t survive outside so they are all kills to 😁
Tom might wanna double check your mic mate. Ouch
Yep, that mic is definitely peaking and overmodulating.
Yeah. I had to also switch to Spotify quickly to test that are my phone speakers ok
Can you imagine going outside and seeing your electrician making chicken noises at your chicken.😂
the mic quality doesnt sound normal.
This channel just keeps getting better and better. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Naomi is awesome! :)
You should have brought some of the chickens into the loft to deal with the spiders lol :D
Sounds like you are overdriving your mic. Take the gain down a touch.
He has a camera guy to look after that. Seems they got it wrong this time. Best to wear monitoring headphones when recording live audio.
Love the video, when you were putting in the earth rod you mentioned that you'd put in the notes where you could get the utility plans showing where underground cables were located but can't see a link. Would you be able to add a link when you get a sec. Thanks
to loud audio something wrong with the mikes.
yeah his trebble was way up and his volume as well, his base was low compaired to trebble.
With your earth rods, we’ve been running with a 1m 12mm sds bit in the ground first. Just helps pave the way for the earth rods 14mm while using that sds bit to drive the rod in.
Yeah I do that. Why would ya. Easy
I know the feeling... where do I start?! You know this job is gonna be a can of worms! 😂
Tom he’s already over taken nick😂 by the looks of it you’re next.
Hey Tom, sorry for tooting you this morning just taking my son to great ormond st hospital for a check up, and who do I see Tom the spark. don’t come to London very often . I watch all your vids ! Keep up the good work 👍 Dan the spark
Hope your son is all good Chief!
I use one of those rod driving bits in an SDS similar to yours. It's not amazing but it keeps the rod going down while I rest. I don't put a lot of rods in but the last one took over an hour so alternating hammer and SDS made huge difference to me still having a wrist capable of turning a screwdriver afterwards!
If you're wondering why it took so long, packed urban area where the DNO refused to provide an earth (looked like there used to be TN-S but no more), which in that environment where there houses are so squashed together seems pretty bad to me. But hey-ho no choice but to rod into tough ground full of rubble, put an 8ft rod down to try and find some decent ground further down, and just pray not to hit any services. Horrible job! Managed to get about 40ohms, about same they'd been getting via the pipework (only earthing they had when I got there) just by a recognised means now, admittedly in wet ground but this was in December so waiting to test dry wasn't an option.
Random question why
Do you install the earth rod locally when the earthing protection is provided through the supply and Swa? Is the house a TT System?
Well done nom nom. Great video as always
cheers pal!
At the start, Thomas whispers chicken sound electrician for the chicken home.
Cheers for the tips and video, Thomas
I've had the 36v Bosch sds for about 5 years, brilliant bit of kit, very powerful. All my tools are bosch, apart from the radio, as I wanted dab, I bought the dewalt t stak radio, sound is excellent, I already had dewalt torches, so already had the batteries.
+1 for Tom & Nom Nom getting it done.
I don't know if it's legal there, but in some areas of the states, we can use heavy wall copper pipe for ground stake. Sweat on a fitting, attach a hose & valve, & let the ground stake drive it's own hole.
When done, cut off the fitting & save the valve for the next one. (Fittings can usually be recovered with a blow torch & a bit of dremeling.
These videos get better every weeek
With a cherry picker, one thing to consider is that if vehicle's MAM is above 3500kg, it's a totally different class of vehicle. You can't drive it with just the "B" license. So all new hires have to have C1 or C. And few rules that apply to the vehicle are different. If I recall correctly, speed limit is different, and also - more enforceble i.e. way higher fines and much lower tolerances
Most likely not your decision and I get that but... If public supply fails, the resident has to find a torch and go upstairs to manually switch to the generator? Wouldn't an auto-contactor have been a better, yet more expensive, option?
Also WiFi security cameras? Only as an absolute last option. (My opinion - not necessarily the same as anyone else 😁)
galvanic corrosion will destroy the bolt, so the brass bolt is better for future, Also if you paint the earth clamp after its installed with galv spray it'll last longer and will be serviceable
I look forward to seeing the wiring inside that board when you have finished.
Not having a bash .. genuinley curious ..
Why did you install a distribution board rather than a consumer unit in the property ? Was it down to the amount of circuits or had some 3 phase power to run ?
I agree with him using a vertical DB instead of split load or a double consumer, sometimes having that extra space and a little bit more 'grit' in the board saves you money on labour, just may get a bit expensive when it comes down to rcbo's. All preference in this game, sometimes penny pinching on materials can mess you up on the install!
@@perry2017 trunking set up with a couple of hager dual is plenty. That board does not belong in aa domestic property
@@rickybeans8504 I agree way to big and should not be in attic
What's wrong with fitting a BG Dual RCD board?
Haha thats what I was thinking,definitely a freebie so threw it in
Why would you fit a dual RCD board these day?
1. It's BG
2. It's Dual RCD
'cos they're shit?
@@gavindebrito7117 Why would you not ?
Are you saying that Dave (old Tom) stole the batteries?
i was curious, did tom say where dave has gone?
Good to see a panel board the size of the panels we use in the USA as a normal size home panel... 😎😎👍
Looks like you're going to have loads of fun I had my own fun today had to replace 100 of BX cable post knob and tube wire basically it had a phantom trip
I really enjoy your channel...I assume that genset interface is a break before make type. Can your test equipment detect bucking voltages from multiple sources back feeding?
Have you got the link for the charts for streets for utilities? Interested
Line Search before you dig
www.linesearchbeforeudig.co.uk
‘The boilers gonna go next to the boiler’ classic Monday morning
we call that a transfer switch in canada. and the only ones ive seen are about the same size as the panel youre installing.
Are you doing a calendar for next year, will it feature Nom Nom.
Tom enjoy you’re video and you’re attitude also I use a Bosch 11305 I bought in a pawn shop for 50 dollars with no bits and turned into a ground rod driver works great
i saw nom nom at screwfix in golders green this morning :-)
Is she as tiny as she looks?
You didn't tread ion her did you?
Yeah the utility workers really dislike it when your generator back feeds onto the lines.
You need an SDS to chuck adapter. Then you can drill the rod in. You then need the hammerdeill setting
Cracking video, very informative, the consumer unit looks industrial, but understand why you are fitting it.
Great video Tom 👌 where do you get the map of utility’s from ?
www.linesearchbeforeudig.co.uk
nice work you two nice bit of kit at the end looking forward to seeing one them in action in future videos
G59 application and approval allows a generator running in parallel with the mains .
Isn't it beter ( if the generator have ats) to put an ATS box in, ( Automatic Transfer Switch ) so, if the power of the steert break down, the generator will switch automatic on?
And yes, you will need a big drill machine with an sds! We put easy 15M of copper in.
( sorry for my English, if it isn't correct 😬)
You can now get a really good DAB + bluetooth bosch stereo. It's great.
Thank God for you Tom, you're working hard and making a success but just stay the same kinda guy ☺
G59 is the reg relating to the generator running back to mains.
Don't see a problem replacing the bolt with a stainless one, we mix metals all the time, look at steel conduit brass bushes, swa glands steel lock nuts, the earth rod is steel copper coated.
If putting the board at that end please cable basket the run :)
get SDS to normal Chuck, then use for rods or drilling etc.
Cheap earth pit is a 110mm pipe with screw end and get push fit extensions.
CCTV depends if for crime, one good camera (Dahua/Hikvision are the good cheap end, MOBOTIX/Pelco is Schneider to go with that board/ Avigilon etc is high end) is better than 4 "HD" ones, if for checking the chucks then that kit fine. Pause a frame and check the quality :) (from the man moaning about cheap batteries and blue roll) keep up the good work.
I agree about the brass bolts, I had a Ze of 1900 ohms, and it kept jumping from reading to reading, turned out to be a snapped bolt so I replaced it with a stainless one. I wonder if temperature change gets to them?
I've worked with the maps you refer to and can tell you they hardly getting updated especially when emergency works are done. Used to hate update the laptops with them every 3 months...
I hate spiders too 👍 and I'm usually the smallest on a given crew so usually I get to "interact" with them quite a lot
Where is the link for the utilities suppliers cables and pipe location.
I was gonna say put the board a floor down in the middle of the house. Then I saw the industrial board 😂
Thom do you make these videos for for the benefit of budding electritions? Or do you make them so the many cowboy sparks out there can carry on fecking things up and then you have to go and put thing right and make it safe?
Just a thought.
Great videos, if you have any of the old ROBIN testers you want to get rid of I would be very interested.
Tom - do they make a generator / mains switch that is automatic that allows for automatic switching and still following the regs? I think you need a jackhammer to drive the earth rods. Or an industrial vibrator but no one can hold it, put enough vibratory energy behind it and it will liquefy the earth but it is happy to liquefy anything that tries to hold it.
Totally agree, those shitty rods have shirt bolts; so I don’t use them. Agree tho about changing the bolt. Had a campsite where they’d all failed
17:00 mins is great onwards, mins before also great but I have to say are you in stilts next to romy. great video tom and all the team.
Mata I had a bad chisel and cut the front bit and welded a 3 inch by 1/2 inch and now I use it to drive earth electrode in hope this will help
Great video Tom! At least that’s one spider that won’t be coming my direction 😂👍
Hope you don't purchase a CPL MEWP. Have had no end of problems. Not so many problems with Versalift stuff.
Did you ask Dave for the batteries back?
Love your videos
Do you not use denso tape for the earth rods in the Uk or is it just a Irish thing?
13:20 or if you’re in the US you can call 811 before you dig, they’ll tell you where everything is.
In Australia it's 1100 and it's website is www.1100.com.au/
In the UK they often don't know exactly where stuff is because they didn't log it very well back in the day
In Ireland there's a service called Dial Before You Dig which is provided free by the utilities. No idea why it's not that way in the UK.
@@ukpm remember how old our country is there's shit everywhere and a plumber doesn't have to update where he has moved pipes he should but not enforced
You can do a statutory undertaker search in the UK too, but it only shows the public utilities, not the private electric/telephone cables and gas/drain pipes on private land.
Deffo saying, fuck off Tom (chickens) haha
Tom I thought my speakers are going bad but sort out your mic mate
Don’t buy a iveco they are very expensive to use, if it’s the one with Satnav then they crash a lot and if you get a blank screen that’s it you will loose your speedo etc until you have a new one fitted for over £1000 they are not smooth running and spring oil leaks everywhere. Good van with unlimited miles is a merc but get a plate welded around the ecu as all you need to do, too nick them is change the ecu to one you have the key for! Very easily accessed from underneath.
So that rod you were driving in which is just rebar, there was no link before to introduce what it was and then it is in and now instead is an earth rod with a cap. Earth is a mystery to me and now more interesting that this sufficed, barely 2 foot I imagine, very slim. Can you help me with the details of what it was and how it was tested to be okay kinda thing?
I've used Bosch Power tools for over 15 years - none have ever failed.
How'd u feel about makita?
Hi just bot bosch green laser from amazon two of lines showing multy interfreanc lines sending it back disappointment with first bosch in 30 years
Love this channel
In the generator change over switch, is there a total off position in a few ms, so that would not spike back?
17:10 WOW THAT IS ONE BIGG HEIGHT DIFFERENCE 😂
I think she was at a lower level
Is there a reason not to use an exothermic weld for the earth connection? Seems much nicer than worrying about bolts snapping or coming loose.
Hold the fuck up here, where is the rest of the next week bit? I wanna go van shopping!!!
A pair of water pump pliers and sledgehammer helps with driving rods and save the knuckles.
Why do you still use Paxolin? Get the thick gromit strip 100 times easier
I watched a linesman drive an 8m (ish) ground rod (to go with a fresh power pole and transformer for an industrial service) in with a nice big Bosch. I also told the guy he was aiming right at the 600mm regional high pressure water main. He dismissed me as an ignorant digger. I'd spent the last 3 months working up and down that ditch-line lowering phone cables and dodging the service shut-off valves and hydrant controls. Sure enough he punctured the line and within minutes there was almost ankle deep water everywhere, and a massive crater full of water where his ground rod was supposed to be...
Is there going to be a part 2 of the video?
Ford Escort.... Showing your age Mr Tom 😂
If you can afford a decent Ford Escort nowadays you are not on a budget. Lol!
Finally a upload. Yessssss
video ended and got 12 video overview with "earth rods" video from Nagy,
not "so much/no" repeating from Thomas or am i getting used to it ?
It's odd to me that what would be considered to be an oversized panel (board) England is the same size of your smaller load centers in North America...
Thomas love your vids
Why do you have there those electric showers? Wouldn't it just be easier to have hot water boiler?
15:48 - I'd go a drill hole 1/2 way up off the ground on the rod. Solder the sh*t out of that connection. Wire is free on both sides.
Solder everything hard with little flux. I think there will be deportation with the freeze thaw cycle but giving options to the potential twat next is good.
Not deportation... Delamination or deportation. *Autocorrect.
Lol, not deportation... Ahhhh! Separation.... Separation.....
Why drive a separate ground rod? In the States, putting in a separate ground rod is illegal. We are only allowed to drive ground rods at the main service entrance. Everything after that is bonded back to the main earth.
I’m guessing it is to divorce the PME earth (earth connected to neutral) from the shed earth. I thought you guys could put an extra rod in on outbuildings?
Why would you install a grounding rod in the ground ?
Hope nom noms in all your videos from now on it's a game changer lol
Great video tom but I'm wearing ear phones and the audio isn't the best...
When the next video mate looking forward to it!
Earth clamps certainly do snap
I so need to use my sds drill to take out spiders....certain they stopped making ford escorts
Are you getting ash in your forcast? It almost feels like the UK as it is so overcast of late 😅
I do love the Acti9 boards they are the best 😁
To drive that rod in, why not use a Sledge Hammer?
What trousers do you wear Tom? Is there knee pads in them?
Wheres Dave?
CCTV you can't go wrong with Hikvision
Where’s Dave ?
The audio is clipping, needs lowering by 5dB
Hi tom, about that manual transfer switch between mains and gen, that thing will interrupt the power, not sure if that's a customer choice but you can get cheap synchronisation systems. Or a other option: a (commanded) ATS, use a mains controlling relay to start the gen, the ATS will switch to gen power automatically, when grid is back it will go back to mains. Sad to hear that gridfeeding is not accepted there, nothing is better than see your meter going backwards. ^^
Hey Tom you know how most people who “save” spiders and put them out side ... well you’ll be happy to know most house can’t survive outside so they are all kills to 😁