"If An Electrician Did This He Doesn't Give A ****"| Electrical Fault Finding| Electrician In London
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I carry out fault finding for an earth continuity issue on a ring circuit I discovered last time I was at the property.
Last time I was at the property putting in some power points for the kitchen and I discovered the issue. To resolve the issue I decide the best course of action is to check for loose connections or to split the ring into two radials on 16 Amp MCBs.
Once the earth continuity issue is resolved the customer asks me to take a look at two lights that aren't working in the kitchen. As the connections are above the ceiling, the customer has to remove the carpet and uplift the floorboards to grant access. When he does this it revealed that the the cables are floating in the void of the floor without a junction box.
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He definitely did that himself 😂 love how you burst out laughing at it 😂😂
I'll guess we'll never know
@@eastwayelectrical he'll know 🤣
💯%🤣🤦🏻♂️When Delroy started laughing it killed me! Had a job like this where the client wired their own loft conversion...went to a 2 gang switch and you had to have one switch on to make the “New” loft landing light on...he admitted he had done it himself in the end and said he couldn’t get it back to how it should be and he’d lived with it ever since but was now selling 🤣....the pendants were all three plated too
I used to live in a house owned by an electrician (who worked at a nearby power station) it had the original cotton insulated wires in it, some asbestos insulated wires and the new power points were all wired in around the new RCD with way too much wire in between.
Australian wiring tends to be simpler than UK or US wiring but we had so much wire l couldn’t get radio in some areas
So has he got you back.?...
I highly respect people with the patience to troubleshoot
I know nothing about electrical work, but it is interesting watching you work, seeing your approach to problem solving! Huge respect to your trade.
An electrician did it.....
Yet he, the customer of the sparks, knows the routing of ALL the circuits.....
Maybe he watched the hack do it before.
You wanna say you don't know what your electrician is going to put in? You don't discuss beforehand how they're gonna route stuff and what's going to happen? Not everybody has such an "I don't care" attitude...
Also, some people try and fix it themselves before calling an expert, and figure stuff like routing out as part of the debugging process.
@@timderks5960 if its not booze, tits, ass or money nobody cares lmao.
they just want the problem fixed they could care less how.
I've always made sure I know exactly where and what everything is any trade is doing in my house. That way I instantly know what is happening if there is a later issue.
@@timderks5960 I'm gonna tell you right now that 9.9 times out of 10 they do not give a shit about how you're gonna do it. Most of the time, all that is discussed is what they want done and where they want it done. Depending on the job or what they want done, I'll tell them what they're options are if I see there's a better way of going about it, or if there's some issue with doing it how the customer wants it. But beyond what they're gonna be using or staring at, they care about as much your average Customer cares about what a car mechanic needs to do beyond "Can you fix it?". If somebody happens to be curious and does want to know, then I'm happy to explain it to them. But it's rarely the case.
As a DIYer I would never do that to my own house or anyone else's. That was defo the client's own work as seemed to know where everything was!
Haha
I guess we'll never know
I know it was bad but it hadn’t caught fire. I’ve seen “real” electricians work in commercial buildings that would make you cry.
US sparky here, dude I've never seen pendant cables coming straight through drywall before, it looks ridiculous LOL
Yeah, those sorts of lights are ones where you have a central rose and those pendants all connect into that, then you install hooks to tie the cables off to so they hang from there. It's a part of the industrial look they're supposed to have.
@@supremeicecreme1658 Definitely doesn't mean there shouldn't be some fitting to connect it to the ceiling. It looks less industrial and more like a machete showroom in a home store that isn't actually a building, so it doesn't matter if the lights are attached without fittings.
Not been in this business for long then? I've seen shit like this far too many times.
@@FourthMan82 12 years, seen a lot of brackets and canopies just screwed to drywall with no box. But this doesn't even have a canopy. It's the worst final product install I've ever seen.
@@supremeicecreme1658 No, it's flat out against electrical code, no inspector would ever pass such a hacked our job. The electrician in the video notices it immediately as well.
When you were touches them wires and the phone rang, I nearly jumped off my sofa. lol
😂 me too
There are animals out there in all trades. They don't care should someone be hurt or worse.
Professionals like you restore faith in humanity
Thank god for people who understand electrics. It’s one thing I have never been able to get my head around.
Lots of people commenting on the lights hanging out of the ceiling but I'm just as appalled by the quality of the plastering.
If you look closely, it's where he's drilled in the wrong places and had to repair it hahaha. I watched this video ages ago, and I didn't notice that until now.
I didn't look at how they were mounted, which is, they aren't mounted, lol.
One time I did live in a place, tho, that had a hanging dining room table light. It was mounted, had a center piece, and a fixture at the end, tho. The center piece had a spring loaded cord winder in it and you could pull it down closer to the table, or lift it and it would wind in the cord to raise it.
Don’t know how this was on my recommended but this was pretty interesting to watch
Apprentice here from ireland your helpin me understand alot. Your a gent del big respect
All the best sir
Bet Damien was straight on it as soon as you walked out the door, now he had a lot more electrical knowledge to work with.
The pendants looked awful.
Absolutely disgusting.
I love the way you talk....you're so nice to your customers.
wow. I'm not happy with the wiring in my house but this installation makes me feel MUCH better about it.
I’m shocked, shocked to find that unauthorized wiring is going on here. Your wiring diagram, sir…. Oh, Thank you very much.
The worst lighting arrangements I seen in a home; looks really nasty !
Well done in finding all these major serious issues !
Bet you thought there was nothing wrong with them connector blocks with them pigtails you use though 😂
I wonder how many times the owner has burnt his head on those bulbs while doing the dishes lol
Definitely did that himself, also asked about the gloves you were wearing which indicates he's curious which is a common trait in DIYers, nothing wrong with it so long as they do their homework and get someone to double check their work whenever they're not 100% sure of something, but i'd hope there would be more opportunities for them to learn in a safe environment if they want to and are curious
Many people think it's safe because they don't hear a bang. Always tell people just because it works doesn't mean its safe.
Them lights where hilarious how did you not just laugh your head off 😂
😂
Im just a homeowner in the states who likes to DIY so i watch videos to learn...BUT!
I doubt it would be easy to find an electrician to deal with the mess this guy has here. Ur patience is awesome...maybe not just u, but ur countries patience lol
It’s great to see there are sparks out there that care!! Love that you laugh at the work and ask if he did it him self lol
LOL I'm two things, one not British, and two, not an electrician, and even I know that is one dodgy setup and not the right way to do it. Thanks to Thomas Nagy showin me a lot more about British wiring than I ever thought I wanted to know, and now I found your channel and I just can't get enough of this stuff.
what a huge difference it makes when a tradesman knows what he's doing and actually cares about what he's doing
One thing I would do particularly if working along with other people in the house is fit temporary touch proof test points to exposed cables you're about to live up for testing, you can easily fit them with Wagos and prevents embarrassing accidents.
Agreed connector blocks are a must to give basic protection for yourself and others you gotta stay safe Del
I think the house owner is someone like myself. I worked as a chef and then did a law degree and have worked in welfare. I knew naff all about the standard trades such as electrician, it’s only since I’ve been forced into semi retirement through ill health that I’ve started learning bits of things. Even so I wouldn’t do anything more exciting than wiring a table lamp. I think Damian had a cowboy in and saw where things were put rather than do it himself. People like Damian and myself though good at what we do for a living are prime pickings for a fly guy. How many retired teachers etc fall for the: "I was just passing and saw a loose slate" con?
The lights didn’t look good at all, personally I don’t like the idea but it also looks only half executed.
First video I've seen of yours, it’s nice to see a decent guy who just wants to do the job right and safe. Subscribed.
Thanks for the kind words.
Erm. You need to check yourself. Law degree to working in welfare?? Becoming a qualified electrician is a huge achievement. You are good at nothing.
23:46 That's an original Pollock artwork masterpiece worth over a million dollars! You never know what you'll find under your floor boards!
My gosh. What a hell hole. No junction box. Complete rewire after
lifting the floorboard. Thank you.
Informative video.
I am going to spend a lest an hour a day on your video as I haven’t had the chance to get an apprenticeship because of COVID
I’m so glad I work as an electrician in Norway and don’t have to deal with your ring circuit! Seems like a pain in the arse finding faults when you don’t know how it’s laid.
Dutch electrician here, English people are stubborn: imperial system, driving on the left side and their shoddy ways with electricity xD
@@AwoudeX we invented it, we will stick with it😂
It’s always the bad quality addition to the wiring that makes it complicated!
@@syncrosimon well, maybe you should check wiring related fires in the Netherlands compared to that of the UK, normalize it for the size of the population and then think again what you're saying :D
If you're ever short on time and effort and you need to fit 5 lights, drill 20 holes and polyfilla the ones you don't end up using
Absolutely RIGHT ! 'Do it properly', a 'Must' for all electricians, for the sake of all people !
Who the heck has wires hanging out of the ceiling like that!!!
it looked a bloody mess and it was a bloody mess lol
It looked like some form of abstract artwork. Some wall unit doors looked like they hit them
Complete bodge , all surface sockets to. Defo a handy man at work there.
Cow boy job he did it himself he’s blagging
Oh, that lockout on the Earth Leakage switches. From what I heard, that was to stop idiots from using tape or wire to hold them in the on position. Even if held it on, and you pressed the test (or have a fault), it would still trip it and cut power (similar to how high-current commercial breakers work).
This is why we can't have nice things.
As I've said to many apprentices, it's easier, quicker and cheaper to do the job properly first time, that way you only do it once.
Wise words
Figuring out those circuits would drive me nuts lolol
😂
Very polite man. Good at his job
I'm not an electrician but I can tell he did those lights himself! Funny how he knew exactly where the cables were....
let me just go and get the exact floorboard up you need del
In his defence if I had an tradesman round I'm pretty sure I'd be able to remember which space and carpet we had to lift up to access the floorboards too...
@@zXLuke4efcXz if you had a tradesman in who just dropped those cables through the ceiling like that I'm sure you'd remember that too LOL
@@shaunlewis286 isn't that what I said lol
I know where all my cables are. I took photos as it was rewired so I didn’t ever drill into them. Same with plumbing
Hi Delroy, thank you for sharing some of your fieldwork again. Can't wait to see your next video's.
Hi sir. You're welcome
@@eastwayelectrical I personally like the way you publish your content. Showing the real effort it takes to finish a call-out. Do the talking with the clients. And never leave the call-out without plan or result. Myself service technician in a multinational company has to do this talking multiple times a day.
I think Damion definitely did this himself 😂😂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Great vid del. I bet, just as you thought it couldn’t get any worse with the non existent ceiling roses and both rings on the same breaker. He saved the worst for last with that mess under the floorboards🤨
Thanks for the kind words
First beer in a month and enjoying it while watching. Good stull Del!
I keep trying the same but lacking the will power!
Enjoy!
Delroy I love your TH-cam videos I’m an electrician and run my own business in Kingston Surrey
I’m really busy at the moment but when you do good things good things happen anyway good luck best wishes
Regards Mark
Thanks Mark
It’s good you pushed and made sure this is fixed properly.
A lot of hoof and spur marks around that job done on those light connections... gr8 video Del...
Thanks Brian
LMAO - those lights in the kitchen. When he said it didn’t look nice. It looks shit. This mans a DIYer for sure.
I used the same electrician for about 10 years with no problems. I could not get hold of him to replace a Vent Axia fan.
After about a month I hired another electrician. He told me that all the wiring was sloppily done and asked if I had done it myself, I had all the documents that the electricians give you, so I was able to show him proof an electrician had done the work.
I had him check the otherthree fans, shower, kitchen etc, I went up into the loft to have a look.
He was right, everything looked like a blind monkey had done it.
We do tend to trust tradesmen.
I admire your patience! What a nightmare installation.
I'm absolutely addicted to this channel. Really informative and entertaining!
What a mess. Sockets on the lighting circuit and DIY joints under every floorboard ! I think you did the right thing - it’s needs fixing properly- but I suspect he won’t ask you back !
Wtf how do these people get away with it?. That was not installed by a qualified electrician no way, Well done Delroy it's a good job there's proper sparks out there to put things right. Like you mate. Fantastic video
Thanks for the kind words
Excellent job Delroy; you are doing a good job.
Thanks David
Such a top bloke, all about that honest graft
Omg! I just renovated a house with much of the same insane wiring issues! By the time I was finished correcting the wiring issues I really was wondering why the house hadn’t burnt to the ground.
You always gets the best jobs mate, how you so lucky? get the builders back to correct it 🙃😁
😂
The best jobs makes for the best videos.
Seriously, dodgy builders will come back and do another dodgy and then bugger off again. Wash and repeat
We all know he did those lights himself lol
He knew which floorboard exactly for the terminal connection blocks and you could hear it in his voice when you said.... you did this didn't you 🤣🤣
This is what always blows my mind about construction in the UK. How hard would it be to provide a wiring diagram!?! and why are our electrical boxes so small!!!! nightmare!
I know you folks have ring mains which typically means fewer breakers, but I’ve never understood why the load center enclosures are so very small! If it’s a tight space, I could sympathize, but I’ve seen these mounted on walls that have plenty of extra space and they are always the same small size.
Interesting to see electrical outside the US. What a mess for this house, but awesome walkthrough!
Glad you find the content interesting
Looks like a council direct labour job from 1970 with subsequent bodges by similar cowboys. Only things missing are all the 1930s and 1950s fittings and cable offcuts left under the floorboards. Almost exactly same as the filthy chaotic mess we found in my daughter's new maisonette. Took a week to sort it out and make it safe
I got so into the video that that cell phone scared the poop out of me when it rang LOL!!
You seem to find these dodgy jobs here and there and it’s usually the homeowners handy work but they will never admit to it....😃
Nice one Del and keep up the good work mate...👍
Thank you sir
In Taiwan this would look like an installation of an electrician with 10 years experience!
...seriously? Lol
sad and true, turn off you electrician brain when your there... wire-spaghetti is but the first shock for you otherwise
@@HowDidThisHappenNow The land of the noodles. By the way I like Taiwan haha.
Now India is where the really crazy shit is at
Ahh the customer has done so much himself.
"If I sent out an apprentice trained by me to do that and I came and inspected i would suck him straight away"
TH-cam really need to work on these subtitles
sounds like a good trade off
You could get arrested for that 🤣🤣🤣
You're a bit desperate? Lol
Nothing beats a job done with a happy ending 😂
@@soldiers303 Silures was quoting the subtitles which TH-cam generated.
Oddly fascinating to watch someone at work who knows what they are doing. One of these days we will get a register of tradesman that actually means something and we can finally be rid of the Cowboy Builder problem.
Well said Delroy there are some serious Cowboys 🤠 out there
Thank for the comment, hope you enjoyed the video
Love the hanging lamps ... so frigging nuts
Where's the light base? I'd love to punch a hole in the ceiling to see what is in the ceiling cavity. Endosope would do it.
Quality diy workmanship 🤦♂️ 15 mins in ya video my mind was made up rewire 👍🏻
my old man would of given me a slap for that if i had done it as an apprentice well done delroy
Got an advert half way through and the first thing it said was "No one likes being lied to, right?" 😁
Very interesting to see how you problem solve step by step.and talk it through..
Best electrical TH-camr is Delroy by far.
Very kind of you
In New Zealand any electrician that comes across unsafe wiring is obligated by law to remove it - and THAT is unsafe
We should do the same in the UK but everyman's castle is his own and they can near enough do what they like, that's why it's wise to get a building inspected before you buy it in the UK. Dodgyness is rife over hear lol
That was certainly a real lash-up Delroy and it made me crawl at the thought of leaving it like that.
Wtf, deffo a DIY installation.
I love the position of the smoke alarm, maybe next time, put it in the consumer unit.
Great video, had a similar thing going on in the new house I bought. I removed all of the extra surface sockets and everything worked properly. Lights are still an issue but at least they work.
Looks like a job I employed an electrition to do and had the nerve to moan about the council asking him to do a course 17th edition and moaned, I've been an electrition for 40 years. I ended up redoing it myself, looks the nuts now. It's not about how long you've been tradesmen for its do you care enough to do the job right.
I just wired my house in Ontario Canada, as a home owner you can do your own work and get it inspected by ESA. It's pretty extreme in terms of requirements and learning. All circuits must be AFCI protected from the breaker panel, which means AFCI breakers, which run around $100 each. I used 15 of them lol. AFCI = arc fault circuit interrupter.
That joint was Outrageous! was your client a little sheepish not wanting to own up to his DIY antics, no Electrician would undertake such a task, I worked with some characters back in the day, but seeing that it's pack the tools away time and return another day the whole place needs looking at in depth
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I am in SA. our regulations here require every earth termination with 2 or more earths need to be crimped to gather then terminated in box/switch/plug. If you lose a live, or neutral, your equipment will not work. Then requiring back checking to locate a fault. Loosing an earth, never, with great consequences can cause electric shock.
Good vids, always good to see a good sparky get around, keep the videos up.
thanks Aus
You've got way more patience than I my friend. I would've been like "Good Luck"
Wow that first shot of those wires is truly shocking⚡⚡.. And both upstairs and downstairs on same circuit???? And no earth continuity??? Truly astonishing and for nothing good
Great vid, so glad to see your work and explanation. Hope Damien pays you well for sorting someone elses mess.
Thanks for the kind words
That’s horrid. He obviously had a go himself. Fair play, sometimes it’s hard working with thick cable and those connection blocks but that’s no way how you do a junction box. Awful awful!
Junction box definitely needed
im an Apprentice electrician and i must say i have seen some stuff where we had to remove and replace everything because how bad it was. like wires burned to literaly ashes
Its like the house of horrors, even the sockets and light switches just seem to pop up everywhere. 14:56 is my favourite switch.
some home owners are just complete imbeciles. rule of thumb, the more academic they are, the bigger the bog job, speaking from many personal experiences.
The smoke detector in the way of the screws in the fuse box 😂😂 the irony is killing me 😂😂
Very instructive Delroy . Thanks from USA.
Most annoying question from a client when you're doing fault finding:
'How are you getting on?'
Mate....mate...you can’t have that 🤣🤣🤣 “An Electrician did it” “No way mate” blatantly did it himself!
Who knows what happened
Great vid Del thanks sharing ...gotta say your voice has the same calming effect as David Attenborough mate haha
Glad you enjoyed the vid, I'm surprised ppl find my voice soothing
How the hell am I only seeing this channel now!! Subscribed 👍👍
Cheers Steve!
My parents had a new house built. I inspected the caballing and it was worse than you have shown. Although the building inspectors passed it a safe, they never actually checked it because it was wired by a well known reputable builder.
R u an approved electrician??
@@adamsharp201 I was at the time (1988)
I have been in a house where ALL the installation wires were white. Good luck!
You got the patience for this madness 🤣
Wow! I love that rats nest in the ceiling with the holes in the plaster... Ouch! Nice fault finding, a really great video... Thanks!
Thanks for watching Wilf
US electrician here. Is it legal to have hidden junctions in the UK? Here in the US, all wires must be junctioned in a device box that is accessible, and cannot be done in a floor space between floors unless the box is accessible, usually from a light fixture box or ceiling junction box, and less commonly in a floor box. Buried boxes and junctions are some of the most time consuming faults to find. That is a fire waiting to happen.
I bet it's not, danish electrician here, and it's a big no no. No electrician in his own mind, would ever do this.
journeyman electrician from Canada here thats considering a move to the UK and I got to say for some stuff UK is way above us for safety like Meggering all the lines and having fuses on alot of equipment but then you got other stuff like putting fixture wire through a ceiling to join in somewhere else that isnt really accessible. Its kind of mind boggling to me. I do however love how you sparks get to really take your time to diagnose and wire because here in houses (commercial builds is a bit different) its get in and get out as quick as humanly possible and many companies will try to get away with shoddy work to be the lowest bidder and there are SO many of us sparks so its difficult to keep busy. Still considering a move over to the UK midlands where I have family but dont know if any of my years of experience would even be considered.
The cable going into the ceiling void is not the norm. It’s actually damn right stupid.
@@jurassicsparks5220 I suspected so. Ive seen some other videos form Delroy along with others showing some other stuff that I found strange but probably not the norm like; Steel enclosures outside, Twin & earth outside, Panels at any height (from right at the floor to right at the ceiling), burying a junction box in ceiling or floor and spurring/extending a plug from a kitchen circuit. Are any of these allowable practices or just people leaving the work they find there? Is that ok, to just leave the work and make a note about it?
Like if I open a permit on a house here my work is inspected by a city inspector and they can inspect the entire house for code violations that they can then tell the homeowner they need fixed. Come to think of it, I dont think i've ever heard of a inspector in the UK like we have here.
Thanks for sharing your perspective
@@eastwayelectrical thanks for sharing your videos. Always a pleasure to learn how the sparkies operate across the pond
3:30, noted, you checked the earth tightness in that socket but you didn't look to see if the earth sleeve had prevented a good copper connection. just a thought...
He does that without thinking its not worth noting every little action on a job in these vids but you wouldn't know that as you don't make TH-cam vids to edit #CleverClogs