Bobby Allison's 1979 Daytona 500 Car: The Race That Changed NASCAR Forever! (Unrestored Survivor)
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"THERE'S A FIGHT" and "They are angry because they know they have lost" are iconic quotes that every race fan in America has heard before. The last lap crash between Cale Yarborough and Donnie Allison followed by Bobby Allison pulling up to the heated scene in THIS CAR sparked a fight that was broadcast on national TV to the largest snowed in audience on record back in 1979. Bobby raced for Bud Moore Engineering in 78-80 running these big Ford Thunderbirds. This one here is one of maybe a couple surviving examples from the BME stable back then. We get Bud's son Greg Moore on the phone to tell us some stories of the time and give insight into the unique details that make this Thunderbird special!
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What is goin on with your builds and where's the new vids on those?????
In 1988 Bobby Allison came out to Saugus speedway in Saugus California and drove a Sportsman car (#64) owned by Rich De Long Jr. We built the engine and crewed for Rich so we were there helping on the car. Of course we all got to take pictures with Bobby and sat around listing to Bobby tell us some stories. Bobby set the track record that night. We also got to wear radios and listen to Bobby talk on his radio while he was driving.. he's a crack up .. He is a hell of a nice guy. There are videos on TH-cam showing that special night at Saugus. (Search Bobby Allison at Saugus Speedway). IIRC.. Bobbies next race was at Pocono where the crash happened that ended his racing as a driver. BTW .. LEAVE THE CAR THE JUST THE WAY IT IS!!
According to the EPA if your car is newer than 1952 and you have modified it beyond its stock configuration. they can legally seize your vehicle although
Most states do not allow them to but they don't have complete control yet do they once currency is digital we will do what they say or they'll turn our money off
No please don't restore the paint, It's only original one time. It amazes me how you find these cars. Keep doing what your doing.
I scrolled down to type the same thing. You can paint and re-paint a car over and over, but it's only original once.
I agree!
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Exactly, it isn't so far gone that it needs to be repainted in order to cover new panels or what needed to be skinned. Its a race car, not a sponsor/PR/show "race car". I'm not a fan of "keep it all original" nor of fauxtina BUT these cars had frames long before they became tube chases cars. Heck, to many enthusiasts nowadays a car with a separate standalone frame is just as much of an eye-opening wonderment for them as the first time they felt big-cube NA torque in a hi-perf car.
Yep, I watched through to the end, the 'bonus" that you asked to mention.
"Wisconsin Mafia" info/history would be 👍🏼🏁😎
Good on ya, both of y'all!!
This is exactly like the arguments for and against plastic surgery. Some people are afraid of time and age, but it comes to all of us and it's completely unavoidable. As @anthonyplanas3606 said, it's only original once, and people shouldn't be afraid of what they see when they see what 45 years does to a car. It's too cool to see how basic the race hardware was back in the day compared to the almost limitless budgets of today. Leaving it exactly as it is will preserve that for all to see. Either way, it's a very cool piece of history.
Leave it be!
RIP to one of the greatest men in Ford's racing history. The great Bud Moore. ❤
I think Bud Moore racing was one of the classiest race teams in the business. I was in Daytona to watch the 1983 Firecracker 400 where Bobby Allison won the race in the Diegard Gatorade Buick. But ealier that morning, my brother-in-law and I stopped at the Howard Johnson's for breakfast. Marty Robbins came in and first sat in the booth behind us. Then shortly, Bud Moore and some of the race team came in and invited Marty Robbins to join them in a backroom. This was the year Dale Earnhardt drove the Wrangler Ford for Bud Moore.
leave the car as it is now. it's a time capsule. put the original type parts on it to complete it as was used on it at Daytona 1979. it's a survivor.
I appreciate how you describe racing isn't just about cars, it's about people. Reading about our local legends like Dick Trickle, you see how much the person means to so many, how they touched lives, and then they went racing too. When I meet my hero, Dick was shorter then me. But he's still larger then life to me at the same time.
I was 17 years old when that race was aired on CBS. The drive that you and Logan have to save this race history is great and you do it very well. bring back the memories of my dad race at Seekonk speedway in the 70's and watching Nascar on Sunday. i always say to the end.
Thank you David!
Mitchell you are getting these guys talking again to each other and remembering the past. When you get old all you can do is talk about the past. Thank you
thank you Dennis!
Bud Moore is the reason I ran the #15 my entire racing career. Saw Bobby win in Ontario, Ca. in 1978 driving that car.
Bud Moore, Bobby Allison two Great Americans.
Listening to that guy talk about Bobby Allison just about got me choked up..
It's cool to hear about the guys I used to look up to as a kid and find out they really were truly good people...
Good stuff, Mitchell...
Looking up at the stars is always a good time...
thanks man. Bobby is a role model and true American hero
Another great video. Us old guys remember the Golden Age of NASCAR in the 50s, 60s and 70s before all the big money came into the sport.
Yep, the money really started coming in around the late 1980's and Nascar began its slow downward spiral to where it is now.
Said it before and I will say it again thank you both for the hard work and dedication to these videos. On a separate note, I have been subscribed to Good Chop (because of your channel) and I can say that it is worth every penny. Thanks again for everything I can't wait for the next couple of months.
thanks man!! We love GoodChop!
You’re doing probably the best history lesson anyone could possibly want for the time in hot rod and racing history that made our hobby what it is today. You’re doing the great lords work for race fans. Keep it up. Nobody is doing anything like this. It’s like forgotten weapons but for race cars.
Only thing I can say. They are only original, ONCE!
Amen Matt
Yea. And the cars are pretty neet too!
You can't change the paint...! Find a vintage engine and get it put back together...! Y'all never cease to amaze me...! Keep up your awesomeness...!
Of course we made it to the Bonus section! And of course you found one of the cars that launched NASCAR into Nationwide television viewership! Mitchell and Logan, we have never met but we feel like you guys are family on the other side of the country! Thank you for doing this, we will always share and help promote your work! Your channel is like the car culture you were just talking about, both of you are showing so many how its supposed to be in a really odd time, thank you for reaching out to all of us. Jennifer Spencer and I really enjoy and appreciate how you make us feel like family each week. I see your #3 wrangler good wrench hand drawn on Stapleton42 post card you drew for Spencer each morning on the fridge while getting lunches ready and wonder what adventure your on today before I go to work! Keep the adventures going for us all! Love from The Oregon Houlihan’s!!
You guys are awesome thank you so much!
Bud Moore built a Mercury to run in 1980 and they did really well with it. They won the Firec racker 400 and one of the Talladega races if I remember correctly. When nascar mandated the smaller wheelbase cars in 81, the Merc sat behind their shop and a good friend of mine and me climbed into it. I always wondered what happened to that chassis. Bud would allow us young guys to come in and visit occasionally, and Greg was always great too. Mitchell, you want to sell more merch, then have that beautiful girlfriend model it for you as she is a joy to look at.
thanks man what an experience that must have been. She is always doing something else when I need to film these outro clips!
Keep doing what your doing. I was a fan back then, and these guys were my heroes. Thanks and cheers from Va. wood brothers and MM fan here.
Much appreciated!
I used to work at SRI Performance and we kept this car in our warehouse briefly. I was fortunate enough to work with one of the guys who built this car and he also claimed that there was no doubt in his mind that this car is the car they used in the 79 Daytona 500. Awesome barn find! Hopefully it can be restored while also keeping it as original as possible
These videos are so important to the history of NASCAR. The detail that you capture is incredible and the stories that the owners and drivers tell adds even more. Looking at a picture or video of these cars when they raced is already super cool, but to see them up close and personal today is what really connects the dots that these cars are real and that's really what they raced not too long ago
Well done Mitchell & Girlfriend!! Loving these great stories you put together. Much gratitude from Australia!!
For a little under 700k you can own the Allison house and property in Hueytown AL. It went up for sale 14 days ago by the sister of Davey.
Watched your bonus video with Greg Moore. Great video today, looking forward to your new ones. Thank you for the time and effort to preserve history and in touch with the actual racers, family, team members, etc. Today's NASCAR is so far removed from 30-40 yrs ago unfortunately.
Thanks man we appreciate you
Your outro is spot on!!! So many do not get it, thankfully that message of being about the people is still alive in those who care about the sport or any other facet of life. Thank you!!!!!
Thanks man we appreciate you!
The harder you work, the luckier you get. These videos are one heck of a nostalgia ride as well as historical value. Cudos to you both.
The vintage racecar stuff is so rare to find because it got turned into so many different things, like he said, in the time it was a tool. It had it's purpose, and that was to get beat on, it's kind of cool that somehow this one survived as it was.
The front fenders look nothing like a normal thunderbird fender.
Wild stuff man.....
They are more like the fenders on a 1977-79 Cougar, LTD II, Ranchero, or 74-76 Torino Elite.
It’s great to see a young person interested in the history of the cars and PEOPLE!
These folks were able to innovate.
I am often inhibited at my job,so to see these videos gives me inspiration.
Every video is fascinating!
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Great video! As far as keeping it the way it is or restoring is a tough decision. If the passenger side wasn't so deteriorated, I say leave it. Love these stories since I grew up in the 70's and remember seeing the '79 Daytona 500 live.
20:25 - amen, brotha. I love that we're going to get a Bud Moore history video coming up in the future too. This is the stuff I grew up on.
I'm torn about how far to go on the car. It's such a piece of history I'd hate to touch it at all (and I'm usually a "restore it and make it nice again" guy). I guess I'd get it back to running and driving condition, fix that engine bay bar that's bent (might have to in order to get an engine in it) and give it a good cleaning up.
No cleaning ! no straightening!, as raced ! untouched!
Great video and the story at the end, I was big into dirt late models and there are still a lot of olds guys around me that would to tell stories, keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was two when this race happened, probably watched it tho. Wide world of sports! 79 Daytona 500 on ABC
I for one and very happy you guys do these videos. Its refreshing to know the NASCAR and racing in general will not be forgotten or lost. I also would like to say. He should leave the car the way it is. Don't do a full restoration. That is true NASCAR history. Hearing stories from the old timers is amazing. I started following you when you did the Mark Martin Video/Interview. I have since went back and watched 90% of all your videos. Very cool channel. Keep up the amazing work.
Keep up the good work Mitchell and Logan. When these people are gone their memories go with them. Love these videos.
Im watching this from norway🇳🇴 i love this channel 😎👍🏻
Great historic racecar. Getting to crawl under it and look around is soooo cool. Man, if only ALL the cars were still around!
Another Outstanding History Video! The car is only original One Time, if proper parts can be found maybe make it a roller or more. I had a big grin when Tim gave you such a endorsment talking to Greg, and he is very right, the story's need to be told and keep the racing history alive. Race cars are part of the history, the people and the story's are the Greatest part of the Racing History.
I believe Stapleton42 have found your calling Tracking the History, both of you ask good questions and let the story's develop. I know you like working on the project cars but the story tellers and getting older and need to be interviewed and video recorded. I watched the 1979 Daytona on T.V. because that is what we watched any time racing was on.
The Globalist want to do away with racing / gas powered cars, we the people need to wake up / stand up and tell them to Suck It.
Couldn't have said it better myself?
Dude..i just brought Bud Moore Engineering decal off eBay yesterday.
Perfect timing for this video!
Call me crazy but id like to see this car running again.
Killer video as usual.
Thanks man!!
Not even a huge NASCAR fan overall but I absolutely love this channel and all of the documenting you do on amazing story after story. Just an excellent and super informative channel and so glad I found it!!!
Thanks man we’re glad you found us!!
It’s insane to me how these types of cars in their day were just kind of taken for granted, used, and forgotten about. Now they are cherished time capsules that can’t ever be duplicated or replaced, all due to memories and their association with a certain time and age.
NOOOOOO YOU DON’T REPAINT IT!!!!!! You will DESTROY it’s historical integrity!!!!
I made it to the bonus story. Quick story: we had an old Monte Carlo chassis of the same era minus the body work that was supposed to be an old RCR car. I remember specifically the bumpers being cut that same way. I don’t remember what happened to the car. Anyhoo I love the history stuff myself. Good channel.
Thanks man!
Yes we made to the bonus round! Another great video! I remember watching that race flag to flag! I grew up with a dad that built and wrenched on a asphalt short track car and always saw fights in the pits after a race. I couldn't believe they still did it in the professional ranks. Racing hard, tempers flare no matter who you are!
I was at that race that is when racing was real racing not today’s cookie cutter cars . Great find needs to be in a museum
Keep the original paint. That car is a true piece of history that should be preserved in its race worn condition.
Watched til the end and the bonus story. Good stuff. Met you at the Mooresville 150 celebration last week next to the Allison car. Keep up the great work.. Enjoy your videos!
So much going on in this video. Lol.
-The car itself
-Random hot blonde
-Some creature crawling around under the car
😂😂😂😂
Glad the car was found! Keep up the great work. I really enjoy these videos.
Thanks man we appreciate you!
Ken Squire's call from that day will stand the test of time as some of the greatest sportscasting ever done.
So true!
Well said sir
made it to the bonus content neat to see stuff like this you think man that's a pretty racecar then you see just how cobbled together they were back then and it makes you wonder how they even worked let alone stayed together
As a fan of the vintage nascar stuff, I love what you guys do. I'm enjoying the candy that came with my new Lake Speed T-shirt as I watch this episode. Keep doing what you do and I will keep watching.
Thank you steven!
That car is a survivor. Don't change a thing !!
You are exactly right! Cars are just metal, but it’s amazing how that hunk of metal can bring people together like you said! My whole life has revolved from a car and I’m 42 now! Keep doing your thing!😊
Well said! Thanks man
Gotta say this is one of the coolest bits of content you've posted to the channel. Im in about as much awe as most seeing the car still exists today in the condition it is. I would love to see this restored to a running state someday maybe but as far as the bodywork, I kinda like it the way it is.
Pretty insane actually..
Cause we were running modified’s 2006-12 and we built my dads chassis out of a Lincoln Continental..
I know this chassis very well 😂..
Nothing very racy about it from factory..
But with some love..They are a awesome platform for dirt and pavement…
So cool to see that thing in such amazing shape after all these years…
I watched a lot of old school Nascar when i wasn’t wrenching on our own stuff in the day..
What a legend he is..
Thanks man!
Needs to be fully restored..replace all the original decals to their original positions as seen with Bobby....Great vid...
Thanks man!
It's insane that somebody would buy that car to just let it sit in a garage for decades. That's a museum worthy car.
Another excellent episode! Can't wait to see the upcoming ones! I grew up watching these races and now you are bringing us the stories to relive and refreshen our memories!!! Thank you, Mitchell and Logan!!
Awesome work showing the past and History of NASCAR and the People who made it Happen, as Always looking forward to More, J. Rose Daytona Beach FL, "Big Fan"
I say keep the paint as original as you possibly can. Changing that is something you can never undo.
Thank you for more Bobby Allison history. Also a good chop customer. Fantastic meat!
Awesome!!
Thank you Logan and Mitchell, very interesting. Ardrossan, Alberta, Canada
Another great video. Looking forward to videos from the contacts you got. You are digging deep and getting all the great stories that have never been told. Keep it up.
Thanks man we will keep it going!
Bobby Allison holds a special place in my heart. Years ago, 1991, I was 18 and going through chemo. I had met Bobby before, but he was appearing at a local establishment and signing autographs the owner of the establishment her significant other were friends of mine and they were asking how things were progressing with my health. I didn't know it, but Bobby heard the conversation. I was getting ready to go home and he stopped me and asked what was going on. I told him and he gave me words of encouragement and wished me all the best with my health. I never forgot that nor will I. It met so much to me that he took the time to encourage me during that difficult time. That is the gentleman Bobby is.
Bobby is really a great guy. It must have helped because that was over 30 years ago now!
@@Stapleton42 It helped me a lot and to this day it means a lot. I am now 50 with a 16 year old son, who I am thankful for and is my world. I enjoy your videos and I watch them from start to finish. The mid 70's through late 80's are my favorite time period in local and NASCAR racing. As diehard of a fan I am, I still learn a lot from your videos. It is obvious your care and love of the sport. It shows in each and everyone.
One of the coolest and most interesting videos that you two have done.
I daily drive one of those birds . {my newest licensed street vehicle } .
As a big fan of the Allison Family I Love this video! Great tour through motorsports history!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I can't believe you don't have millions of followers. All these rich sponsors that have been around racing for as long as these stories have, should kick in some bread so you can take your videos and post production to the next level. FANTASTIC job!! What a find!! Loved watching all the Allisons race. :) *Wanted to add, loved what you said at the end. "One person at a time". :)
SAY IT LOUDER 😂 we could really use some backing to do more videos in other states!!
Always stay till the end! Thanks for another great video
Thanks again!
First, Please do not restore that car. Put an OE susoension and a period correct motor so it will roll or run. The paint, decals and the bondo are history. I can remember walking the pits with my Dad during speed week in the early 1970's. Teams would be hammering away and wiping fender flares with bondo in real time. The best part for me about these interviews is you guys are talking to the Crew Members, the people that built the car or hammered the fenders, drove the turck and trailer. The unsung heros that made those races what they were. There is lots of documentation on the drivers, owners and super stars... but I like hearing from the people that were behind the scenes. Another great video. Keep it up. Can't wait to see who Tim tee'd up for you. P.S. just got my Lake Speed T-shirt the detail is incredible.
I grew up in Greenville, SC and got involved in the racing scene at Greenville-Pickens Speedway in 1970 working on Larry Gilstrap’s #29 Ford Fairlane driven by Johnny Allen. Those three years had a profound impact on my life. Mitchell keep up the great work of preserving racing memories! Thanks, Tim in northern TN
Thanks man we will!
Mitch buddy you guys really know how to make a guys day better. Been dealing with a lot of crap lately and when I see your videos I buckle up and get ready for a good history lesson. Wish a guy could go back to those times and enjoy them, but your videos really help do that in a way, Thank you.
Great video you two. Cool to see the very car that drew me to watching Nascar races still exists. Looks like you picked up several leads for more videos.
Keep up the excellent content Mitchell .
Always enjoy bonus content
So cool...you guy's bring so much great content!
Thank you!
Nice video! This is your best yet, amazing historic find and you did a great job showing us the car. Bobby was my favorite. Someone else may have mentioned it already, but that OG seat looks Mustang to me, Logan would be able to say for sure. I think Dale Sr. used modified Mustang seats even into the 80s.
"Profound" is right Mitchell.
You need to ask Greg about the trick manifold with the front 2 runners straightened out and the trick distributor ---- that will be a very interesting story ---
If I remember correctly we did 3 manifolds - 1 for Junie Donleavy and 2 for Bud (Reed Cams) I'm Denny the head of the Reed Cams Cylinder head Dept
This is amazing nice job !!!
Home run dude! You guys are killin it!
Thanks man!
I'm here for ALL of it. It's so cool to hear these legends recognize the preserving of these stories.
I remember watching that race with my Dad. Bobby was and will always be the one that hooked me onto Nascar, then came Dale. I hope he just puts the suspension and axles back under her and please don’t re paint! Just another great video
A miracale the car was still around and in such good condition. Would be amazing to put the drivetrain and suspension back on it.
Stayed to the end and can wait to see what y'all bring in the up coming vlogs .......y'all ROCK
I made it to the bonus story. Another great video. I guess I'm binge watching your videos today.
I do miss the drag racing fabrication content , but since you made the move out to nascar country and taken on this history project it's cool to see how much Logan has learned and to see her going off and rummaging around the cars on her own while you are talking with the people is great!!🏁🇺🇸 But it would be nice to get an update on you guys own projects please.🙏✝️🙌
This is a history lesson , for sure 😊
Another gem. Keep them coming.
We will!
Another Awesome video !!! Love your Channel and love your enthusiasm to bring NASCAR history back too life !!!!😊 you too are Amazing and Awesome !!!!
Thank you Brian!!
I heard and read that the automotive industry is second only to the aerospace industry in product development. This i believe. Cheers folks. Keep it going!
“I’m pretending to be a radiator…” 😂
You don't need to know who I am, but yes, I watched it all & enjoyed it. Thank you.
Of course I made through the whole video! I wacth and enjoy every one you post
Dave & Kristin from the Poconos made it to the bonus story! Another awesome video!
Awesome video and history. As for the car, LEAVE it in it's original "work" clothes. The paint is part of it's "original" history. It is too easy to do a complete new paint job. But it's original history comes but once. And YES, I watched the whole thing! Cheers.
Hey Mitch I just wanted you to know that I was the viewer a while back that had mentioned that my father and Gregg were really good friends back in the late 70’s and early 80’s and I had asked if you had been down to the old shop before. I also worked for James Hylton and could probably get you hooked up with the guy that basically grew up in James shop and ended up being his right hand man for building and maintaining the cars for James from the time he was just a little boy all the way till the last race in Talladega before his tragedy on the way home. He even still goes with Brad Smith who has drove the 48 Arca car for several years and still does even after James passed away. He could give you some amazing stories from back in the golden years of Nascar as well as some in the past 20 years. If you talk to Gregg just ask him if he remembers Mike and Mitzi Pettit. I’m Randy their son.
Another awesome video from the best NASCAR historian
Thanks man!
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I always make it to the end of y'all's videos, because I don't want to miss a thing. Hearing these stories make me miss my Pop so much. Thank you & Logan for all the hard work y'all put into this channel. I sincerely appreciate y'all. 💕
Another great video, If he gets this car the run again i hope he keeps the exterior the same without restoring it.
I hope so too
I always watch all your videos to the end, I got to meet Bobby once, at his old shop, but I believe you were at once already. We were there before the Coca-Cola 600 one year doing all the shop tours we pulled into the parking lot and just as were really to you he came out and asked if we wanted to take a picture
At the Stavola brothers shop?
@@Stapleton42 i'm not sure it was probably in 1996. So if he was driving for them then I think it was his own shop. I know his son