Only Good People Get Depressed

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    SOURCES🔍🔍:
    Rowe, D. (2003). Depression: The Way Out of Your Prison. United Kingdom: Brunner-Routledge. , Rowe, D. (1987). Beyond fear. HarperCollins., Rowe, D. (1982). The construction of life and death. John Wiley.

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  • @Sisyphus55
    @Sisyphus55  วันที่ผ่านมา +31

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  • @SofoArchon
    @SofoArchon วันที่ผ่านมา +911

    Depression is often the spirit's rebellion against a life that sucks.

    • @S3IIL3CT
      @S3IIL3CT วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@SofoArchon
      fits with my experience

    • @smilingontime
      @smilingontime วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@SofoArchon wowsers

    • @TheSkyGuy77
      @TheSkyGuy77 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I have had some semblance of depression since a young age.
      😢

    • @GoblinMunchie
      @GoblinMunchie วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      I'd imagine that it's more like the giving up of the spirit.

    • @siriusblack469
      @siriusblack469 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@GoblinMunchie Yeah, at least my experience with depression fits that

  • @derekthoughts
    @derekthoughts วันที่ผ่านมา +659

    I misread the title as "only good people get dressed" and i was so captivated about the claim for a few seconds.

  • @abdalamustafe96
    @abdalamustafe96 วันที่ผ่านมา +354

    Depression, such a common thing yet very individual

    • @imsorryforarguingbut4555
      @imsorryforarguingbut4555 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      but how different is the individual?

    • @justinklenk
      @justinklenk วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@abdalamustafe96
      Important note. 👍

    • @obzen-1
      @obzen-1 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@imsorryforarguingbut4555 very

    • @QuietClawss
      @QuietClawss วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@abdalamustafe96 still relatable for the dislike for the world.

    • @genericusername8337
      @genericusername8337 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Is it, or is there simply a great deal of confusion around the topic, as there commonly is when people talk of a singular topic, with their own notions of it? The phenomenon itself, the symptoms, aren't an endless list. Same with the conditions which create it. Even the subjective experiences, I'd wager aren't all that different (when talking of depression proper, instead of confusing it for any number of other mental health problems), variance in severity and duration are probably the most relevant factors.

  • @Dan-ud8hz
    @Dan-ud8hz 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +38

    “People don't fake depression, they fake being okay. Remember that. Be kind.”
    - Robin Williams

  • @polar906
    @polar906 วันที่ผ่านมา +247

    Objection your honor, my client here (me) is depressed and also a bad person.

    • @raymaztereljackson9729
      @raymaztereljackson9729 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      @@polar906 you dont get it, the fact that you think of yourself as a bad person means you can really be one, since they would lack the ability to self reflect

    • @iopnematsuteku
      @iopnematsuteku วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      And it is the proof, that you indeed feel the discrepancy between who you are and who you want to be, posed by you mental prison. For example you are only a good person if you are perfect and the fact you are not, makes you a bad person which is a rather high expectation that no one can ever fulfill

    • @aisforapple2494
      @aisforapple2494 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Judge : "Overruled. Just like the rest of your life!" 🤣

    • @mendlez2306
      @mendlez2306 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I certainly hope you have evidence to backup your claims

    • @AlexTouchesGrass
      @AlexTouchesGrass วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was gonna post this too, a lot of people hate me and I've been depressed before. Must mean I'm a good person after all and I cannot be wrong!

  • @mbsucks101
    @mbsucks101 วันที่ผ่านมา +223

    oftentimes i understand the thin line between being alone and being lonely, lord it has me by my neck.

    • @whelkpeopleofdoom
      @whelkpeopleofdoom วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      @@mbsucks101 I am a pretty solitary person, and I enjoy being so. Occasionally, suddenly I feel lonely and it sucks because I have almost no one to help me fix that. I wish it would just stop happening.

    • @deiggo3877
      @deiggo3877 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      @@whelkpeopleofdoom being solitary is important to know oneself as long as you are surrounded by a community that you can rely on. Breaking from the self-impossed prison mentioned by being vulnerable can help you connect with others in real life who are probably not voicing it but find themselves in a similar situation. Go out and talk to people, easier said than done but true.

    • @mbsucks101
      @mbsucks101 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@whelkpeopleofdoom at time's it's just like I have got rid of myself,
      I'm alive with something else now.
      but hey i hope you always be gentle on yourself!

    • @PixelSheep
      @PixelSheep วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@mbsucks101 what exactly do you mean with you got rid of yourself? Just making sure I get what you are saying correctly

    • @mbsucks101
      @mbsucks101 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PixelSheep i meant the person that I used to be i feel like I'm a stranger in my own skin.

  • @kumokingtv
    @kumokingtv วันที่ผ่านมา +76

    Depression just makes everything harder. It takes what is already an epic struggle to exist preferentially and elevates that reality to a completely cosmic tier of difficulty. However, due to the nature of our human spirit one is still able to show up for life on a daily basis despite this. I see that as one of the most beautiful showcases of strength in humanity.

  • @derp.p
    @derp.p วันที่ผ่านมา +182

    Almost just purposely walked into a truck on the road omw to my car but stopped myself at the last second, then almost broke down at the fact I still stopped myself. I instinctually care about myself regardless of what others think. It’s always been this way. I don’t have insecurities, I’m fine with myself and think I’m objectively good at being a person, but I can’t find love regardless of how I view and present myself, and it’s always been this way.

    • @whelkpeopleofdoom
      @whelkpeopleofdoom วันที่ผ่านมา +43

      I'm glad you are still here, friend. And remember that if you do ever choose to harm yourself, forcing unconsenting people to be involved will deeply traumatize them. You have my absolute empathy and love, but I feel that is important to point out. Hopefully it will never truly be something you have to consider 💚

    • @quadroff
      @quadroff วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Very glad to know you're still with us. If you can work out which issues prevent you from finding love, try to improve on them.

    • @dougsmith6793
      @dougsmith6793 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      The only love I've ever had that lived up to expectations / reputation was the love from mama. The rest fell short, but probably because I was measuring it by an impossible standard.

    • @Zhohan-
      @Zhohan- วันที่ผ่านมา

      Humans throughout human history had strong communities of people we knew for our entire lives. We threw that away with industrialization. Of course more people are depressed. We're not evolved for the environments we're living in. Like a penguin in the zoo.

    • @michaeltrivette1728
      @michaeltrivette1728 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@derp.p don’t hurt other people like that.
      You do you to yourself but stepping in front of someone else.
      That’s inconsiderate.
      Please don’t be that person.

  • @Posi2Mind
    @Posi2Mind 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    Watching this video reminded me how society often puts 'good' and 'bad' into rigid boxes, but life is way more complex than that.

  • @streaky8844
    @streaky8844 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Time to be a bad person.

    • @Profinoob1337
      @Profinoob1337 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Maybe that actually IS the reason people turn into bad ones. Like e.g. the Joker, he suddenly frees himself from everything and with it, his depression maybe?

  • @DylanRDunn
    @DylanRDunn วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    The timing of this video could not have been better

    • @kelseymathias3881
      @kelseymathias3881 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      depression is awful! best wishes to you

  • @kingoftheives3488
    @kingoftheives3488 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

    Depression is an enemy that knows your every flaw. One that fights a war of attrition and that multiplies the second you turn your back. Its not a fight that can be won with a single victory but one who’s every moment endured is a victory of itself.

  • @BL-sd2qw
    @BL-sd2qw วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    According to predicting processing theory and other social/decolonial/non-pop psychology theories, depression is a normal human response to when you are stuck in an environment that doesn't let you flee nor fight from the danger, constantly having to perform against your emotions, not being able to accurately predict what to do (mostly because you are being stuck in double binds and unpredictable moods from others).

    • @claym0re
      @claym0re วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      LITERALLY ME!!!!!

    • @mirabela1344
      @mirabela1344 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@BL-sd2qw I experience the same

  • @emiliajbrtz
    @emiliajbrtz วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    I feel like my frontal lobe just developed…

    • @Sisyphus55
      @Sisyphus55  วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      ouchie!

    • @chriss3404
      @chriss3404 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@vanillavania. i'll stop eating it, sorry.

  • @TheOutlierToday
    @TheOutlierToday วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    I've been depressed since I was a child. Maybe before the age of 6. I grew up in a pretty unstable household where abuse was a daily thing and I was explicitly told that I was the reason for it. I even told my mom I didn't want to live and she was hurt by it. I can't imagine it being easy hearing that from a child, your child. But they're the reason for it.

  • @dreamcyberium
    @dreamcyberium 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm 32 (almost 33) and I feel depressed as fuck because I am an older student. I feel like I compromised my future because I didn't go into school earlier in life. I passed HS in the four year period, but I didn't go beyond. I didn't do AP or anything fancy like that because I didn't know what I wanted to do career-wise. Although I have always wanted to be a scientist- thought what kind I had no idea. But also nobody explained that stuff to me, and I had little guidance in my life. I didn't know what degrees were, and I didn't realize what universities were for exactly, and I didn't realize that getting a high GPA in HS would mean I would get scholarships. Because of these factors, I feel like I have been held back in life. Now that I am an adult student, I face so many more responsibilities in life than the kids in university have ever faced. As a result, I won't be able to go through school as quickly as them and will probably accumulate more debt due to lack of scholarships.
    I know this is not really my fault, but it's hard for me to not blame myself. Especially because now I have to wait longer before I can get any kind of job that would allow me to live under capitalism under even a semblance of comfort, and it feels like I wasted over a decade of my life due to these expectations- all because I didn't get a stupid piece of paper that says I can get a chill and good paying job. The way society treats adults is bad. And people wonder why we are so depressed.

  • @Shiftingreubix
    @Shiftingreubix 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Man, it's kinda dumb but I found the cure to all my problems.
    I have struggled with sadness and bad thoughts for most of my life, but recently I found out how to change it. Whenever I feel like im going through a low patch I do a reconstruction of my values (more like guidelines of how to act) and my worldview. It works better then the "fake it till you make it" method.

    • @BigToody
      @BigToody 8 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Can you explain more and walk us through a scenario of you using that technique?

  • @stephenanthony5923
    @stephenanthony5923 วันที่ผ่านมา +84

    You're not the thoughts you experience. You're the experiencer of them. Mis-identification of oneself causes suffering.

    • @Bot-on-Tapwater
      @Bot-on-Tapwater วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stephenanthony5923 this is some deep stuff my guy

    • @Sylar-451
      @Sylar-451 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stephenanthony5923 this is the key, was deeply depressed and suicidal for 20+ years untill I practised ACT (acceptance and commitment therapy) and developed mindfulness.
      The waking up app helped tremendously too, and is a deeper dive into mindfulness

    • @TheSkyGuy77
      @TheSkyGuy77 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stephenanthony5923
      But then whose thoughts are they?

    • @angylopez215
      @angylopez215 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @TheSkyGuy77
      In short like another you in your body.
      Long answer:
      I like to think there are at least 2 people in oneself. It probably is a common experience that if we want to end it there's something (like self-consciousness or the "body") that prevents us from ending it because of survival instinct. Our bodies are amazing but not invincible, easy to hurt yet we unknowingly keep it safe.

    • @TheSkyGuy77
      @TheSkyGuy77 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@angylopez215
      Hmm... I can kinda see what you're saying.

  • @mjdally82
    @mjdally82 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    0:38 umm…is Dorothy giving us the finger? 🤨🤣

  • @georgeabreu6392
    @georgeabreu6392 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Insightful - I could definitely see my past self in the perfectionist seeking acceptance mindset. It’s not a dynamic that ceases to be but rather it evolves to be more healthy upon letting go of those past rigid expectations. Instead focusing on slowly improving and giving myself elbow room to take on that growth and try to understand the circumstances that prevent or slow it when they are there.
    Thanks again for this video of psychology and philosophy on these themes.

  • @karilikelikes7963
    @karilikelikes7963 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Life is full of plateaus or what feels like limbos in between growth. Some stages feel stagnant or depressing. The fun parts are finding a fun way to break out of the rut or the comfort zone in an enjoyable way or finding an enjoyable approach that works to find more enjoyable results. The work is trying to define a plan that aligns.

  • @corona_asies5479
    @corona_asies5479 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I have done everything, I have constantly hurt myself, separated from my family, hurt my partner, isolated from my friends. None of that is what I really want, I want to change the sad and damaging thoughts I have about everything, enjoy a healthy relationship and go out with my friends, and as long as I keep that in mind I will get there eventually. I don't want to hurt myself anymore, it hurts.

    • @CLOYO
      @CLOYO วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Honestly, it's about choosing for the suffering that helps you. Everything might hurt; But what's actually worth it?

    • @corona_asies5479
      @corona_asies5479 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@CLOYO
      I guess, I prefer to suffer while I choose to change because at least I know I tried, it's just hard to keep the mental

  • @Gary-b8z
    @Gary-b8z วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I have been severely depressed and cynical for years after reading about historical atrocities committed by humans. I could not simply comprehend how humans could do this to each other. I don't think I ever could.

    • @DeepFriedOddish
      @DeepFriedOddish วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Humans can get pretty creative when it comes to "solving" conflicts, but violence has always been a near integral part of life itself. All living things compete for resources, from the lowly bacterium to the great apes. Some plants release toxins into the soil, securing their spot and making sure no other grows in their vicinity.
      But within our violent nature, there is also compassion. Animals, including humans, protect each other and even other species, sometimes when there is nothing to gain from it. Some plants share resources through their roots and mycorrhyzal connections, even to dying individuals.
      Life is equal parts horribly violent and beautifully benevolent.

    • @Gary-b8z
      @Gary-b8z 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DeepFriedOddish That's a beautiful answer. Does explain broader scale human conflicts. But not individual decision making. If I were a Nazi soldier during ww2, and I was asked to kill even a single jews (or anyone innocent for that matter), let alone children, I could not do it. My hands would shake and I would rather die honorably than kill someone and live rest of life with regret. But during Nuremberg trials, most Nazis tried to justify their horrible crime and also expressed no regrets. That is something incomprehensible. It feels as if some of us humans aren't exactly humans.

    • @DeepFriedOddish
      @DeepFriedOddish 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Gary-b8z Yeah, you got me there. Individual decision-making depends on a lot of variables. However, though I have never been in the position, i'm certain that the threat of death for oneself or one's family is enough to convince most to commit horrible acts.

  • @deepaksaini6364
    @deepaksaini6364 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    "Depression is agression turned inside." Robert Saplosky

    • @badger_grol
      @badger_grol วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@deepaksaini6364 Nancy McWilliams in psychoanalytic diagnosis said that it's actually that it's not our aggression. It's rather aggression of others towards us that we internalised

    • @Mezza_Luca
      @Mezza_Luca วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@badger_grol Isn't the important part at the end of that statement though? We internalized it; we did it to ourselves. We internalize it because we can't refute it. We agree with those who are aggressive towards us. Also psychoanalysis is the original garbage pop psychology (thanks Freud).

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So aggression turned outside turns you into the Hulk? Or Doomguy?

  • @strahlungsopfer
    @strahlungsopfer วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Depression for me is shrinking to fit the available space

    • @sz.marcell
      @sz.marcell วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Ofc you have a Bojack pfp

    • @vanillavania.
      @vanillavania. วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sz.marcell ok?

    • @r-type4945
      @r-type4945 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@strahlungsopfer what an uncommon yet fitting description 👍

    • @strahlungsopfer
      @strahlungsopfer วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sz.marcell oh yeah i used to have the username WhatwouldBojackdo cause I thought it was funny

  • @chriss3404
    @chriss3404 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Acceptance before constant analysis.
    It doesn't mean that you shouldn't analyze yourself or your actions, but you can't make yourself wait until you understand yourself perfect to accept yourself, especially if you're analyzing and changing yourself.
    There's no reason to wait for a day that might never come to allow yourself to be happy.

  • @owendubs
    @owendubs วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Sisyphus, what really ensnares me about this claim is the why of it all. How do we determine what is good and what is bad? Is it relative to a higher power or faith structure? I don't know a way to determine whether or not all of us are burdened by original sin, whether or not death is salvation for those of us who are moral enough to feel a cosmic guilt.
    Let's define what good is before I continue. I examine good and bad relative to practicality, practicality for what one happens to be going for. Practical = good, where Impractical = bad.
    If one happens to be going for the approval of a higher power, a deity, then whatever happens to be good for that is good. The thing is, it's next to impossible to be certain what such a deity wants, what is good for that deity, or whether or not it's tilting at windmills to behave as though the deity exists in the first place. It takes faith to determine the qualia we've got in our possession to be evidence of this deity existing, or evidence of this deity not existing. Even for agnostics, it takes faith to determine that it's even possible for one outcome to be the case. To even consider the possibility is an application of faith, a best guess that one happens to run with. So, in short, we're required to assume something in order to interact with any part of this system.
    Assuming that our actions are practical for our objectives requires faith. People can only have one objective at one time, though they can oscillate between objectives at a fast enough rate to produce the illusion of something being both good and bad. To even step into the objective of there being some cosmic good to service, some moral imperative to suffer, is to cross a threshold only surpassable with faith. To interact with this objective at any meaningful capacity is to cross a similar threshold, assuming that one's actions are good for its accomplishment. With this problem diagnosed as an irrational assumption it seems as though the only antidote, remedy against, is an equal and opposite irrational assumption.
    Therefore, good people can get depressed for no reason. Good people can be happy for no reason too. Whatever it is, just do your best because it's just what you do.

  • @KalpeshMange92
    @KalpeshMange92 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just leant today about factors that affect the development of self and self esteem at college. This video is so spot on in honing in on the spirit of self. Beautiful work Ben. I love your content! :)

  • @aisforapple2494
    @aisforapple2494 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y'all hit the nail on the head with this one! 🔨

  • @Hollow_purple556
    @Hollow_purple556 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bad timing, I was depressed the other day, I'm manic now 😭😭😭

  • @ethanshaw8256
    @ethanshaw8256 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A good one. Thanks for giving me something to think on today. I’m going to give it another listen later, too.

  • @davidgiannivaldez
    @davidgiannivaldez วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Wow, I fell asleep depressed last night. I can not believe how perfect your timing is. Somehow, it's almost like you know when people start to feel certain ways and make videos about topics that relate to this timeline of human emotion.

    • @noldi6996
      @noldi6996 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@davidgiannivaldez I felt the same rn and it was the first video i saw

    • @pugidsound
      @pugidsound วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's magical thinking.

    • @Ndr316
      @Ndr316 วันที่ผ่านมา

      literally

  • @subhojitbhattacharya3213
    @subhojitbhattacharya3213 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    YOUR TITLE IS MANIPULATIVE.
    Great job!😂

  • @professorshrimpling2979
    @professorshrimpling2979 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    perfect timing yet again

  • @victordaniels600
    @victordaniels600 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I really wish this was enough

    • @thehalo2guy638
      @thehalo2guy638 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@victordaniels600 wdym

  • @RahulKumarRahulKumar-k2s
    @RahulKumarRahulKumar-k2s วันที่ผ่านมา

    good video yet again, thank you love ❤️

  • @milkallergy8829
    @milkallergy8829 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    thank you

  • @tannenbuschfrank2662
    @tannenbuschfrank2662 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I don't know how to say it properly, but this channel is the best! 😮

  • @randomguy9940
    @randomguy9940 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Instructions are clear. I am assuming my Judge Holden personality.

  • @Flesh-Automaton
    @Flesh-Automaton 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m not a good person and neither are others around me

  • @wave3177
    @wave3177 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Sisyphus’s timing is always perfect. Got broken up with, got into car accident, cant walk or workout and just feel like a burden

  • @Crepesom48
    @Crepesom48 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Isn't loving someone without understanding them just compassion

  • @adambuss654
    @adambuss654 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Depression is a poorly build prison, and I've got the strength to see me free, but I've lived here so long, these walls, they comforts me.

  • @vaultboy2270
    @vaultboy2270 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I couldn't agree with her more. I will be checking into her works. Thank you.

  • @subatenome
    @subatenome วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Has anyone ever overcome depression altogether? Especially of this kind? It feels like the changes needed for this as stated in the video are insurmountable in nature, like actually becoming aware of every single one of these self-told stories or not letting societal expectations get to you when you are forced to be part of society as it currently is. It just seems impossible to achieve, at least within a reasonable amount of time.

    • @georgeabreu6392
      @georgeabreu6392 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@subatenome I’m not sure what overcoming depression ‘altogether’ would mean. I think there is always a leftover sense of what caused it but as one grows beyond it, you’re able to look back at it with the perspective and ability to not fall on the same self-told stories that caused the dissonance between your actual self and your imagined idealized self which caused the depression to begin with.
      Fundamentally, It’s helpful to think of small steps given your situation; understanding yourself as you are now and trying to figure out small changes in routines that could, over small increments eventually bring about the desired overall state you want for yourself. Also preventing or slowly removing bad habits by making similarly small choices. In my experience the final goal of that should have constant reassessment as you go. Somethings will work others not, it’s just about the slow improvement.
      It’s like becoming affluent at a craft, except it’s life. But there are others around who can help and give advice, again just like a craft. Hopefully my perspective helped a bit.

    • @cycillak4918
      @cycillak4918 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Kind of, its strange. My life hasn't much changed since I 'overcame' depression. I'm still not in a relationship, I still have the same friends etc. If anything things have become materially worse as I'm now separated by distance from a lot of the people I know and I'm living in a worse place. But over the years I have generally become a much more contented person, doing things I didn't think I would ever be able to do when I was depressed, like solo travelling abroad or learning a new language. To overcome it I guess it really comes down to 'thinking positive' which I know sounds like a massive piss take at the moment with the current state you may be in. But it really is as simple as the next time you think something negative about yourself or the world, you challenge it with a positive spin or interpretation. And yes at first you will likely laugh at this positive spin and not believe it in the slightest, but over time it will become much more credible and that's when you can kind of 'overcome' depression. Even something as simple as just holding a belief that things will get better will slowly pull you out of depression. Of course this doesn't mean you'll never be sad again, or even depressed. But once you can pull yourself out of the depths generally you will be able to set up good habits that will keep you out of depression. Hopefully this helps.

    • @Schizohandlers
      @Schizohandlers วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@cycillak4918 how do you think positively when everything objectively sucks. Do you just lie to yourself until you believe it? if so thats a difficult skill to master, i guess thats how normal people are so good at functioning.

  • @superfly_7077
    @superfly_7077 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Where are the Comments? I WANT THEM NOW!

  • @yukaroj
    @yukaroj วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    one of the things i loved about bojack so much was that you can see so clearly what made him the way he is even if the show itself doesnt believe its an excuse and this theory feels like it inspired bojack

  • @crimenty4446
    @crimenty4446 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you

  • @ChibiMalzahar
    @ChibiMalzahar วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The youtube short post definitely worked

  • @evryon1810
    @evryon1810 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ah yes feeding my narcissism 🔥

  • @ackdor
    @ackdor 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can someone please explain:
    I'm baffled about the last picture : "we can love someone without understanding that person"
    I'd like to see it linked with Ms. Rowes theory and her observations

  • @Nonya1010
    @Nonya1010 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This couldn’t have come at a better time.

  • @ralcesh250
    @ralcesh250 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Damn. “This is terrifying, because a person’s whole structure of meaning is invalidated.” I’ve gamed my entire life. Recently have been dealing with some real shit, and I can’t hide or stick my head in the sand anymore from it. It’s fucking terrifying, even though it’s what I need to confront. I can’t confront it when I avoid it through gaming.

  • @NeoSlimey
    @NeoSlimey วันที่ผ่านมา

    Damn. I wish this were more of a comfort, but it does actually help a little bit. I may not be worth much, but at least I can take some pride in my concern about my worth to other.

  • @MetricZero
    @MetricZero 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Identity is just the construct of ideas that we and others hold. Someone can be anything to anyone, it's a malleable perception held by the individuals, separate from objective reality.

  • @nano7586
    @nano7586 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not a psychologist but from experience I'd best describe depression as learned helplessness. You realize that no matter what you do it doesn't change your environment and life circumstances and so you get emotionally and physically so paralyzed and numb because there is literally no motivation whatsoever, it won't help you anyway. And the reason why this is so consistent with the hypothesis that only good people get depressed is because bad people morph their environment however they like, either by manipulating other people or by just doing whatever they like without respecting any societal norms. On the other hand, depressed people take the accountability on their own. The best remedy of mine has literally been to take things into my own hand. Listen to my 'authentic' self and ask myself every now and then: 'what do I really want to do right now?'. And when there are no options, instead of giving up, finding another way towards that path. This seems so trivial but being conscious about it has literally helped me in all aspects of life: personal, with friends and family but also professionally. In the end all of us could do most of the things if we had the confidence to do them. Of course there are biological factors and some very impairing life circumstances, but we can do so much more than we think we do.

    • @Sisyphus55
      @Sisyphus55  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is definitely one of the theory's proposed by Seligman. There's also cognitive models that look at depression as the result of cognitive deficits and biases (i.e. attentional biases). Behavioural models see depression resulting from an absence of positive reinforcement and reward. And evolutionary/biology models propose that depression emerges as a dysfunction in a natural reflex to conserve resources after a loss. There's also diatheses stress models that look at depression from a genetic lens. The research on the etiology of depression is super fascinating!

    • @nano7586
      @nano7586 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sisyphus55 That's probably the truest definition and cause for depression, and very interesting! Didn't know that, thanks for sharing! ADHD also goes hand-in-hand with cognitive deficits and it has a higher comobidity with depression, so I totally see that. The other two theories also make a lot of sense. As always, the evolutionary remainders (stoneage brain) are often outdated and don't help much in today's society so it helps tremendously to be educated about that to 'cognitively' fight it off. I'm sad that we don't learn these things, coping mechanisms etc., in school. Depression is a real epidemic and nobody is prepared for it. I could complain all day about our school system but in the end we have to accept things how they are.

  • @susaac9755
    @susaac9755 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Time to turn evil

  • @vidhoard
    @vidhoard 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This video did not talk about the claim "only good people get depressed" so now I have to go research it on my own which is weird because usually these videos do a great job

  • @PhilosophyPlayground91
    @PhilosophyPlayground91 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do we value our memories too much?

  • @iooog1
    @iooog1 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "we can love someone without understanding that person" BANGER LINE

  • @man7909
    @man7909 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Am I the only one who read “only good people get dressed”?

  • @monshdoesart
    @monshdoesart วันที่ผ่านมา

    This one hit home
    Like very very hard

  • @jordanlucien426
    @jordanlucien426 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro knew this autumn was gonna be a hard seasonal depression 💀💀💀

  • @Schizohandlers
    @Schizohandlers วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i wouldint be depressed if i had that brilliant sponsorship money

  • @sussywoody5911
    @sussywoody5911 วันที่ผ่านมา

    From what I gained, depression is a product of society standards that one internalized within him/herself. Does it mean that both parties are at fault and we have the power to limit how much we want depression to affect us? (english is not my first language:/)

  • @sami_is_freeYt
    @sami_is_freeYt วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A lot of people could be due to chronic maybe but make depression part of their personality. It’s not asthetic or artistic, u might dig ur own grave if u dont help yourself

  • @nsbd90now
    @nsbd90now 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is about Dorothy Rowe. Seems that should be in the title and description.

  • @thesoggyrice4062
    @thesoggyrice4062 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The claim that “Only good people get depressed” feels like a self centered statement created by a person so desperate to feel like a person that they warped their entire world view just to fit that specific mold

  • @matthewalvarojr.2634
    @matthewalvarojr.2634 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know someone who is the exception to this rule. If your delusional enough to not realize how harmful you are to everyone around you, you're fully capable of being depressed when no one wants to be some you.

  • @StuckInBliss
    @StuckInBliss วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I can’t believe my depression was the Bay Harbor Butcher

    • @r-zeatlfilms
      @r-zeatlfilms วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      BRUH THE BAY HARBOR BUTCHER IS EVERYWHERE

  • @imzeussz
    @imzeussz วันที่ผ่านมา

    i dont feel this is true. i am condemned to damnation, because of my phthisisian perjury, my lies to myself, the pain i have caused, and i have retired to that fate. i am depressed, for i am a terrible, incorrigible being.

  • @evolutionofmaggie
    @evolutionofmaggie วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My depression seems linked to a lack of hope for myself, not comparison with others or any other reason. Simply about finding love. My depression manifests as anger towards others
    Depression isn't just one thing

  • @anouresto
    @anouresto วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Concerteza pessoas boas geralmente tem tendencia a ficarem melancolicas, ocasionalmente depressivas. Quem é 100 porcento feliz tem algum tipo de alienação.

  • @Novastar.SaberCombat
    @Novastar.SaberCombat วันที่ผ่านมา

    If only it were true. I've encountered a LOT of psychopathic narcissists who become extremely depressed by relatively minor circumstances or strokes of (mild) bad luck, and then it usually sends them into a blind rage against everything and everyone. :/ It's painful in ways which I cannot fully explain unless you've experienced this kind of behavior from these types of people. If you're unfamiliar with it, I suppose I'd encourage you to watch the Johnny Depp v Amber Heard depositions. Obviously, those are VERY long, but it'd be one way for you to understand things (slightly).

  • @joyhappiness
    @joyhappiness วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i'm a lonely loser virgin who gets no nanny and no love, i am so depressed, woe is me

  • @seedrid
    @seedrid วันที่ผ่านมา

    how is bro so always on time😭

  • @DrNowhereman90
    @DrNowhereman90 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would you be down to make a video analyzing Perfect Days with the Myth of Sisyphus? Pretty pls

  • @wanda5983
    @wanda5983 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But Mr sissy, how will I escape my psychological prison? Like really, how?

  • @littlecookie366
    @littlecookie366 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Clicked as fast as I could

  • @BestOfSound99
    @BestOfSound99 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, I feel called out now.
    But what would someone do about it?
    Especially if you feel like you don't deserve to get better and being like a sick form of melancholy.

    • @corona_asies5479
      @corona_asies5479 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I honestly feel the same way, but you know that you are going through depression and that your judgment of things is not exactly reliable so focus on the facts, more specifically, what do you WANT to do? Do you want to continue feeling that way, or do you prefer something better?

  • @aidenhoogstra8636
    @aidenhoogstra8636 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have to disagree. I knew a truly evil depressed person once. Undeniably bad person, undeniably depressed.

  • @sa1f43
    @sa1f43 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Agree with the title

  • @arielsteph4515
    @arielsteph4515 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not me at 3 am watching this and connecting the dots about my life

  • @schoolneverteach
    @schoolneverteach วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is why there is an avalanche of "don't give a f*ck" and "unf*ck your life" aimed at telling good people not to care too much and about being able to discern what's important from the trivial.

  • @chamsseddin4449
    @chamsseddin4449 วันที่ผ่านมา

    phrasing it like that means that you're defining depression based on the person himself, i mean, if only good people get depressed, then depression is something that only good people experience, and since this "good" is in the context of the subjective experience of the person himself, like finding that something he define himself by is challenged by the real world, so he feel bad about himself, and because he felt bad now, it means that he felt good just before, meaning that he's a good person at least to your interpretation of the situation, as you see, there's a leap here, the whole point you're making is about defining good as the opposite of bad which isn't news, and because depression is a subjective experience, you're defining depression itself through a subjective lens, but even that depression is actually a subjective experience, it doesn't mean that there's no objective conceptual definition of it, i mean, even if it is complex to reach a complete objective definition because there's always the subjective dimension of it, you can define it in an objective way referencing the subjective dimension even if not explicitly getting into it.

  • @superpandaman6658
    @superpandaman6658 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    This is the wildest rabbit hole I ever came across

    • @Sisyphus55
      @Sisyphus55  วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      welcome

    •  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sisyphus55 what is your opinion of Robert Greene the author of 48 laws of .... i haven't read him and i wonder if it's worth it.

  • @freddie8610
    @freddie8610 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love sisyphus 55

  • @EarlJustinSM
    @EarlJustinSM วันที่ผ่านมา

    this title makes me look so bad in public 😂

  • @Имя-о9ъ
    @Имя-о9ъ 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It is not exactly that people are products of society. People are reaised the way that society have a hard influence on who they are and what should they want, think and feel.
    People were taught to conform to societal notms whatever those norms could be. But conforming to those norms is not a natural state of things.
    Society strictly repressing individual thinking by every step in life. They call it upbringing and education. They learn people to judge each other and shame if they behave in a different way even if what they are doing does no harm to anyone.
    The ultimate goal is to make everyone think and feel in one and only direction and obey blindly.
    This why societal expectations outweight your own view of self. And society is ruthless by punishing each other for disobidience.

  • @squishygoblinrogue8359
    @squishygoblinrogue8359 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I must be a great person then lol

  • @kprojectskurt
    @kprojectskurt วันที่ผ่านมา

    How do you animate your videos? After Effects?

  • @dingding4898
    @dingding4898 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I'll watch the video but before that - what about narcissists?

  • @antoniskaloterakis7996
    @antoniskaloterakis7996 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think that's always the case. Self victimisation doesnt make you a good person. Been bitter and resentful not either. Those things can get you depressed. Been always grumpy in order to draw the attention on to you not either too. Getting sad over everything cause you cant realize your own traumas and release them doesn't mdke you good either.
    The fact that you feel sorry about everything is a projection. Can you be of any help? If so you are good. If not you are not good nor bad either. But the fact that are nit bad doesn't make you good.

  • @talkingtakotaco8611
    @talkingtakotaco8611 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    To my understanding of this video, depression is simply people being perfectionists and failing to be their idea of the perfect version of themselves in society, but that image of themselves is also created by society and not the individual.
    Here a good person is just defined as someone who feels bad about not meeting society's vision of their ideal self and i assume then a bad person just doesnt feel bad about not meeting this ideal. The good person avoids depression by revaluating and updating what that ideal is supposed to look like and make it more flexible, so that it isnt so rigid.
    I disagree with this, if this is the correct interpretation of what i just watched.

  • @macaroon147
    @macaroon147 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm pretty sure most school shooters had depression too.. just saying

  • @alerightone
    @alerightone 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately, it’s not true. Lots of people are “depressed” because they cannot freely do what they truly desire deep inside without society outright telling them (or giving them hints) that these things would not be okay to do. As Dorothy Rowe herself says “depression is when there is a discrepancy between what we thought our life would be, and what it turned out to be”, so no, depression is not reserved for good people.

  • @detritiv0re144
    @detritiv0re144 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Relatable.

  • @ByVirtueofExistence
    @ByVirtueofExistence วันที่ผ่านมา

    Depression is real, so does reality of horrors.

  • @bettertobethoughtafool
    @bettertobethoughtafool วันที่ผ่านมา

    Turns out im evil idk