I skimmed through. I'd much rather see the older courses. This new course is so out of sync with reality, in that 99.9 percent of the owners of SUV's aren't going into the thicket of forests where you'd maybe see a quad snaking in and out of. I honestly don't see the point.
Another great video Ryan. Would be awesome to see you take a Mercedes-Benz GLC300 on the course and see how it performs. I do worry about Mercedes on gravel roads but maybe your findings will surprise me.
In 2007, my dad bought the first generation of KIA Sorento. It was a good off roader. We took off roading in the Pine Barrens of NJ, and we drove on the sands of Island Beach State Park. In 2010 KIA and other auto manufacturers went away from off-roading.
I know this might never be seen, but I'd like to bring some attention to a comment Ryan made at about the 0:08 second mark about how the Sorento "finally has some off-road capability". I'd argue this is the least capable Sorento by far due to it having a DCT transmission. The original Sorento was a very capable body-on-frame truck while second and especially third generations had very good AWD systems with regular automatics. In fact that third-gen Sorento was so off-road capable, Kia advertised it going up Moab which is something they'd never do with this current gen. Moreover, the internet is littered with videos of first, second, and third-gen Sorentos tackling difficult off-road courses. Most videos of the fourth-gen attempting this end with it overheating its DCT. If Kia were to make a truly capable Sorento for off-road now, it'd be based on the hybrid.
Hyundai/Kia's biggest mistake was adding a third row, dual clutch transmission and an off road appearance package to a mid size city car "crossover" and calling it improved.....
The Sorento is not in the same size class as the Pilot. The competitor for the Pilot is the Telluride. Honda has nothing that competes in this segment with the Sorento. CR-V is smaller, Passport/Pilot are a great deal larger. The Pilot is certainly better for off road, but the CR-V is no better.
Actually, I didnt think it did that badly for a crossover. It did fine on the first part of the course. Ground clearance was more of an issue than traction. That said, if I was going to purchase a hyundai/kia I would probably go for the Tuscon hybrid or the Telluride.
@@ThisGuyRides Yea, you right. Snow mode is probably not the way to go. Wish Ryan had more clearly explained what other modes were available, especially if there was an "off road" mode. He could have also just turned off traction control.
Why? I'm considering both, and the 2025 Sorrento hybrid. Kia is rated with better reliability than Subaru on consumer reports as well. Any thoughts Ryan? Thanks for posting!
At least Subaru won’t cheap out on you and give the Canadians modes that are software controlled while charging you the same price for less features when they don’t offer them to the American market.
Happy to post positively against the grain LOL … candidly, I think that Sorento looks great along with its pre-refresh. Possibly the option of a traditional auto aside the DCT would be nice, but admittedly I’ve had no issues with the ‘23 Sonata NLine I’m leasing and love what the Hyundai group is producing, planning to sign a lease on a GV70 Sport soon. - People quickly deride Hyundai/Kia claiming they’re unreliable, but I believe many folks have experienced issues b’c they’re unfamiliar w/the dynamics of DCTs & turbo-charged engines.
Having the three “off-road” modes in Canada really does make a huge difference. I would never take my ‘21 Sorento X-Line through these courses with its 20” tires, but with our studded winter tires, I’ve gone over sandy hills and mud tracks with no issues. But I agree that the Honda Pilot Trailsport is massively more capable than this X-Pro.
Ryan, great review! I'm a Honda fanboy based only on the 250k mi. I've put on my CR-V, but this is a really nice vehicle. And, I'm old enough to remember that the "Trailsport" was pretty much a trim option only a few years ago. KIA will follow the money as well.
Had a 2016 Sorento, loved it. Purchased a 2024 xline limited Sportage(Canada’s top trim). Never hated a vehicle more in my life. Will never buy Kia again. I absolutely hated the dual controls for climate and infotainment. I cut my losses
We had a 2016 Sorento as well (with the 2.0L Turbo engine). Served us well for about 7.5 years. Planned on keeping it a few more years, but we have 3 friends who had the same engine in their Santa Fe and all 3 of the failed (at the 100,000 to 120,000 km mark). We decided to trade ours in before we were next and bought a 2023 Subaru Forester Wilderness. We love our Subaru, and while it's not a specsheet warrior, it's a fantastic daily driver and actually has some "off road" chops. No, it's not a Rubicon, but it's more capable than most regular crossovers.
I had a 2022 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, nothing but problem after problem and terrible service from two different dealerships. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough, no more Korean vehicles for me.
@@pdxtim1377 Our other car is a 2021 Toyota Venza (which is also a hybrid). I've had it 3 years and it's been flawless (as one would expect). One of the reasons I bought it was I was sick of dealing with the Kia dealer previously (it replaced a 2012 Rio5).
Hi no offence , but I from Spain Europe I am big fun of your program although I know your program is for the USA mainly foreigners also watch it, Lots of cars that you review are not only for the American market I would really appreciate if all the data you give us would be as well in metric as in imperial. I am always with the calculator changing from gallons to litres, kilometres to miles miles and vice versa. Thanks so much.
I bought 2023 Hyundai santa fe sel year ago. No dual cluth no turbo. Which i like. I don't trust Dual cluth from lower end Car manufacturers. Porsche is only dual cluth u want.
Of course snow mode limits power. If you were driving on snow you wouldn’t want your wheels to spin so why would you expect them to spin over the logs in snow mode??
Ein ganzs großes Manko ist das Fehlen des Remote Smart Parking Assist 2 (RSPA 2) Dieser umfasst eine erweiterte intelligente Parkfunktion, die aus der Ferne das automatische Ein- und Ausparken rückwärts, vorwärts, senkrecht, diagonal und parallel ermöglicht. Das Fahrzeug erkennt Objekte in der Umgebung, regelt Geschwindigkeit sowie Gangwechsel und steuert das Fahrzeug automatisch in die Parklücke. Warum hat man diese Funktion diesem neuen, teureren Sorento entzogen? Der KIA Sorento bis Modellwechsel in 2020 hat dies noch an Bord gehabt.
Snow mode reduces the engine power. Stop using it when going over obstacles. The slow throttle response is so the tires dont spin and the vehicle starts in a higher gear with less power.
Not sure who the person that put a DCT in this (and Santa Fe) is, but that was a seriously stupid idea. Elantra N? Sure, I get it. Sorento and Santa Fe? NO! Wrong transmission for the task.
Two tablets glued into a slightly curved screen - THESE ARE THE INSTRUMENTS? Looks cheap and not ergonomic. No hood above, no glare-free wells for instruments. I hope that at least replacing it would be as easy as disconnecting one cable and pulling it up. I so don't like the current trend for replacing real instruments with tablets. Going to keep my vehicle until its wheels fall off.
Looks like Kia still needs to work on their traction control programming and all-wheel drive system before they can justifiably use their "X-Pro" designation with any real meaning.
Kia build quality is horrible, same with Hyundai. Lots of people are WOWed by the tech but all I care is does it work and for how long. With this brand you don't know.
Honestly I thought the same thing, having owned an automotive shop…. Kia wasn’t my favorite, lol. I test drove a couple BMWs, Hondas, and Lexus, etc… searching for a new car lately, I have to say, I am extremely impressed with how far Kia has come, the interiors are near identical to the new Audis. Time will tell how the new engines go, but as far as the 100k 10 year warranty, it’s pretty impressive.
Dam pick-up wouldn't let through there. U not using proper driving mode for off road. You're explanation of the sum like it was designed as a off road raptor. Dude, seriously you are awful at whatever you call yourself.
The worst of every TV show we've ever watched was opening music, and intro. It's waste of time l, no one is interested. Sorry take this on this channel, almost everyone does it. This is not 1980's TV. Do something new, and just play the video
I'm only here to support the channel. $49k for a KIA is INSANE! I'd take the Pilot over this any day, and I don't even really like Honda.
Have to be honest, don't care about KIA. Only watching to support your work.
Would also be nice if everyone that watches, clicks the like.
Friendly cpa if you don’t care about Kia this can impressed you than other car company 3:51 to 3:57
I skimmed through. I'd much rather see the older courses. This new course is so out of sync with reality, in that 99.9 percent of the owners of SUV's aren't going into the thicket of forests where you'd maybe see a quad snaking in and out of. I honestly don't see the point.
How come
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Another great video Ryan. Would be awesome to see you take a Mercedes-Benz GLC300 on the course and see how it performs. I do worry about Mercedes on gravel roads but maybe your findings will surprise me.
Would be great to see this, and also the new E-Class. Especially since I'm likely to buy one of them next year.
Bmw has offered us review vehicles, but they won’t let us take them on the trail. So we’ve declined.
@@drivingsportsDoes this include Mercedes-Benz? You could do your old fashioned road reviews on the BMWs. Those were pretty awesome as well.
@@yourfriendlycpa1595 sorry I meant to say it was Mercedes. I was sitting in a BMW when I typed this. Lol.
@@drivingsportsRyan, I for one will certainly watch those Mercedes on road reviews. It'll feel like the old days of watching you on Ignition TV.
Snow mode reduces power.. yet Ryan always used snow mode and no off-road modes and complains there's no power. Rolls eyes.
lmao
But other options were sport, eco, and smart lol
@@kildli Okay so try them?
@@TexasStormChaser lmao
In 2007, my dad bought the first generation of KIA Sorento. It was a good off roader. We took off roading in the Pine Barrens of NJ, and we drove on the sands of Island Beach State Park. In 2010 KIA and other auto manufacturers went away from off-roading.
I know this might never be seen, but I'd like to bring some attention to a comment Ryan made at about the 0:08 second mark about how the Sorento "finally has some off-road capability". I'd argue this is the least capable Sorento by far due to it having a DCT transmission. The original Sorento was a very capable body-on-frame truck while second and especially third generations had very good AWD systems with regular automatics. In fact that third-gen Sorento was so off-road capable, Kia advertised it going up Moab which is something they'd never do with this current gen.
Moreover, the internet is littered with videos of first, second, and third-gen Sorentos tackling difficult off-road courses. Most videos of the fourth-gen attempting this end with it overheating its DCT. If Kia were to make a truly capable Sorento for off-road now, it'd be based on the hybrid.
Hyundai/Kia's biggest mistake was adding a third row, dual clutch transmission and an off road appearance package to a mid size city car "crossover" and calling it improved.....
Your thumbnails are really good indicators of the type of video ahead. A bit telling at times but sometimes has surprises in store.
Normal people would be pround with theirs Sorento's if they see what this car can do in yours hands Ryan. Great review. Greetings
This is the un-Subaru. Lots of style. Very little substance.
I would bet my money on a Honda V6 for reliability EVERY DAY over a Kia/Hyundai buzzy turbo.
Definitely would get a pilot over this any day.
The Sorento is not in the same size class as the Pilot. The competitor for the Pilot is the Telluride. Honda has nothing that competes in this segment with the Sorento. CR-V is smaller, Passport/Pilot are a great deal larger. The Pilot is certainly better for off road, but the CR-V is no better.
Disappointed that it struggled so much on your easier off road test. It would clearly be no match for your mountain course. Great video as always.
Actually, I didnt think it did that badly for a crossover. It did fine on the first part of the course. Ground clearance was more of an issue than traction. That said, if I was going to purchase a hyundai/kia I would probably go for the Tuscon hybrid or the Telluride.
It was doing fine until he put in in Snow mode. Found it severely limits power yet kept it in Snow mode.
@@ThisGuyRides Yea, you right. Snow mode is probably not the way to go. Wish Ryan had more clearly explained what other modes were available, especially if there was an "off road" mode. He could have also just turned off traction control.
@@edsmith9855 Ryan dont know what he's doing.
Same price as a trail sport? Honda thanks you.
For 50K I think Kia forgot who its target market is.
For that price I would take a Subaru Ascent Onyx Limited any day over the Kia.
Why? I'm considering both, and the 2025 Sorrento hybrid. Kia is rated with better reliability than Subaru on consumer reports as well. Any thoughts Ryan? Thanks for posting!
Over half of Kia buyers make over 100k. Their target market has evolved to cater to higher end customers
No Subaru 😂😂😂😂 Kia is better than Subaru.
At least Subaru won’t cheap out on you and give the Canadians modes that are software controlled while charging you the same price for less features when they don’t offer them to the American market.
I love this car but agreed with you but for me Honda Pilot or pathfinder 😂
Great video! Any chance of a 2024 Hyundai Santa Fe video in the near future?
So it still has the exploding DCT? Awesome.
Happy to post positively against the grain LOL … candidly, I think that Sorento looks great along with its pre-refresh. Possibly the option of a traditional auto aside the DCT would be nice, but admittedly I’ve had no issues with the ‘23 Sonata NLine I’m leasing and love what the Hyundai group is producing, planning to sign a lease on a GV70 Sport soon. - People quickly deride Hyundai/Kia claiming they’re unreliable, but I believe many folks have experienced issues b’c they’re unfamiliar w/the dynamics of DCTs & turbo-charged engines.
Apart from the offroad tires and suspension, is there any difference in AWD capability between the Sorento XPRO and the Sorento Hybrid AWD?
I'm glad you put these videos out. I always enjoy them
Having the three “off-road” modes in Canada really does make a huge difference. I would never take my ‘21 Sorento X-Line through these courses with its 20” tires, but with our studded winter tires, I’ve gone over sandy hills and mud tracks with no issues.
But I agree that the Honda Pilot Trailsport is massively more capable than this X-Pro.
Ryan, great review! I'm a Honda fanboy based only on the 250k mi. I've put on my CR-V, but this is a really nice vehicle. And, I'm old enough to remember that the "Trailsport" was pretty much a trim option only a few years ago. KIA will follow the money as well.
Had a 2016 Sorento, loved it. Purchased a 2024 xline limited Sportage(Canada’s top trim). Never hated a vehicle more in my life. Will never buy Kia again. I absolutely hated the dual controls for climate and infotainment. I cut my losses
We had a 2016 Sorento as well (with the 2.0L Turbo engine). Served us well for about 7.5 years. Planned on keeping it a few more years, but we have 3 friends who had the same engine in their Santa Fe and all 3 of the failed (at the 100,000 to 120,000 km mark). We decided to trade ours in before we were next and bought a 2023 Subaru Forester Wilderness. We love our Subaru, and while it's not a specsheet warrior, it's a fantastic daily driver and actually has some "off road" chops. No, it's not a Rubicon, but it's more capable than most regular crossovers.
I had a 2022 Hyundai Tucson Hybrid, nothing but problem after problem and terrible service from two different dealerships. I couldn't get rid of it fast enough, no more Korean vehicles for me.
@@pdxtim1377 Our other car is a 2021 Toyota Venza (which is also a hybrid). I've had it 3 years and it's been flawless (as one would expect). One of the reasons I bought it was I was sick of dealing with the Kia dealer previously (it replaced a 2012 Rio5).
Ryan, have you ever considered tilling up the soil after the logs and having a sand/loose dirt pit?
I have. Haven’t gone all in yet.
Hi no offence , but I from Spain Europe I am big fun of your program although I know your program is for the USA mainly foreigners also watch it, Lots of cars that you review are not only for the American market
I would really appreciate if all the data you give us would be as well in metric as in imperial. I am always with the calculator changing from gallons to litres, kilometres to miles miles and vice versa. Thanks so much.
2:35 to 2:44 the towing capacity is lot thanks Kia you are impressed. Good job keep make more driving sport tv 🎉🎉🎉
Would love to see a Genesis GV70 or GV80 on the mountain test course and this course!
Did you turn off traction control?
I really like Kia after buying Kia Telluride. It is a game changer!
Sounds like Kia needs to hire you as a consult :)
You should not put it in snow mode for logs. I have the previous model. I climb bigger obstacles with normal drive mode with no issues.
Another great video!
why is hyundai/kia insistant on using dual clutch transmissions seems like they always have issues with them.
I bought 2023 Hyundai santa fe sel year ago. No dual cluth no turbo. Which i like. I don't trust Dual cluth from lower end Car manufacturers. Porsche is only dual cluth u want.
I personally think when it comes to ppl that live in hot places that there should be a cold and not just hot on steering wheels
Kia may have redeemed itself with these updates. But it's still a soft roader when it comes to going on a trail.
21:07 is an impressive sight tbh
There are many options out there for 50k and under. I would like it more if it was a 2 row vehicle.
I would personally go with the Subaru Crosstrek 2.5ltr. wish it had a turbo. Maybe for 2025.
why do you keep comparing this to the Pilot? isn't the Telluride going against the Pilot while the Sorento goes against the Honda CR-V?
CRV isn’t a 3-row, nor does it have an off-road variant.
Great video as usual. How about testing the new Hyundai Kona turbo AWD with its new automatic transmission ?
19:26 Deer 🦌
I see here people concerning about 49k for a Sorento. Guys, this car in Europe is 60keur. Are there any taxes to add, or this is the final price?
We have sales tax, but that varies depending on the state.
Of course snow mode limits power. If you were driving on snow you wouldn’t want your wheels to spin so why would you expect them to spin over the logs in snow mode??
Ein ganzs großes Manko ist das Fehlen des Remote Smart Parking Assist 2 (RSPA 2) Dieser umfasst eine erweiterte intelligente Parkfunktion, die aus der Ferne das automatische Ein- und Ausparken rückwärts, vorwärts, senkrecht, diagonal und parallel ermöglicht. Das Fahrzeug erkennt Objekte in der Umgebung, regelt Geschwindigkeit sowie Gangwechsel und steuert das Fahrzeug automatisch in die Parklücke. Warum hat man diese Funktion diesem neuen, teureren Sorento entzogen? Der KIA Sorento bis Modellwechsel in 2020 hat dies noch an Bord gehabt.
xrt ?
between this vehicle and the honda pilot trailsport ill take the honda hands down
Snow mode reduces the engine power. Stop using it when going over obstacles. The slow throttle response is so the tires dont spin and the vehicle starts in a higher gear with less power.
Either way suv struggling to keep traction.
Not sure who the person that put a DCT in this (and Santa Fe) is, but that was a seriously stupid idea. Elantra N? Sure, I get it. Sorento and Santa Fe? NO! Wrong transmission for the task.
Hyundai has the XRT. Kia has the X-Pro. Ryan called it XRT
Figured I’d make that mistake at least once.
Not enough clearance, Clarence!
I hope that deer signed a release.
Two tablets glued into a slightly curved screen - THESE ARE THE INSTRUMENTS? Looks cheap and not ergonomic. No hood above, no glare-free wells for instruments. I hope that at least replacing it would be as easy as disconnecting one cable and pulling it up. I so don't like the current trend for replacing real instruments with tablets. Going to keep my vehicle until its wheels fall off.
Looks like Kia still needs to work on their traction control programming and all-wheel drive system before they can justifiably use their "X-Pro" designation with any real meaning.
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natans method from tfl momentem
Just had a great sandwich.
Unibody has nothing to do with it. Subaru does fine.
Only crossover I can think about off-roading with is the Pilot. All others are just a passenger car dressed up as an SUV
Kia build quality is horrible, same with Hyundai. Lots of people are WOWed by the tech but all I care is does it work and for how long. With this brand you don't know.
Honestly I thought the same thing, having owned an automotive shop…. Kia wasn’t my favorite, lol. I test drove a couple BMWs, Hondas, and Lexus, etc… searching for a new car lately, I have to say, I am extremely impressed with how far Kia has come, the interiors are near identical to the new Audis. Time will tell how the new engines go, but as far as the 100k 10 year warranty, it’s pretty impressive.
$49K is too much for a Sorrento. 😢🤦🏾♂️
I like Kia. I am not a big fan of this front grill design though.
Waaaait you can get an Subaru ascent with leather for the same price and better quality
Here to support, personally kia, Hyundai and Genesis are a joke.
How are they a joke?
This one better than subaru cvt overheat 🤷🏽♂️
X-LMAO😂😂
Dam pick-up wouldn't let through there. U not using proper driving mode for off road. You're explanation of the sum like it was designed as a off road raptor. Dude, seriously you are awful at whatever you call yourself.
Which will be more reliable? Well one is a Honda, the other a Kia. I think you have your answer
Dual clutch is plain garbage.
take it out of snow mode
The worst of every TV show we've ever watched was opening music, and intro. It's waste of time l, no one is interested. Sorry take this on this channel, almost everyone does it. This is not 1980's TV. Do something new, and just play the video
The way he does things are great. This man put a TV show together that was televised internationally so I think he knows what he's doing.