@@almeladze its a fitting title. These videos are always a story and this is one of the best youtube channels. Its a good title that gives you something to think about and then he tells you a very interesting story about a watch brand. You really don't have to watch this channel if you don't like it tho
@@earlspencer7863 Nothing knockoff about any of the design elements. Seems very unique to Ming, from lugs, to case shape, to pretty much any of the overall design. Also, Schwarz Etienne is no joke. The more you know...
The way Rolex’s fanboys talk you’d think they’re still a small mom-and-pop operation struggling to keep the lights on in their own gold foundry. “It was such an _honor_ to buy this piece at MSRP, Mr. AD. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. 😘😘😘 Here have my wife for the night as a token of my appreciation.”
Rolex started as a micro brand. Bought the case, bought a high quality movement, encased it and sold it under their brand. It would be interesting to see if there is a potential next "Rolex" around us.
It was century ago... world and people changed, customers became more selective and in the same time stupid. Today big manufacturing spend almost 80% of budget on marketing by doing minor updates to products what makes almost impossible to young innovative companies to compete. Sad
I have 6 Microbrand watches in my collection and I personally like them all. 2 Spinnaker a Fleuss and a Hull, a Lorier Hydra, a Boldr Expedition,a Undone Basecamp and a San Martin 62 Mas. All of them are well manufactured and the Movements are running accurate. I use them as my Daily Rockers and I can recommend them without a doubt.
Micro brands are brilliant for the 99% of people that can’t afford the top end Swiss, you’ll probably find micro brand are more relevant than so of the “Swiss brands” we see in the shop windows today. Look at Doxa and Sinn arguably some of the best dive watches available, just because it’s not a Rolex doesn’t mean it’s not got a story or character. Feels like this video had a different agenda, god forbid you recommend something that would effectively take money from your own websites pocket
Rolex was a micro brand buying in parts and assembling before where they are now. I think they still buy in parts. Totally agree that other watches have a story and character, you never know a micro brand today could be big in 10-20 years.
I think the video was much more benign than that. An attempt to legitimize micro brands, but yes, you have to use skepticism as your starting point in order to point out how Ming and others ride above it all.
I thought this would be a presentation about microbrands out there worthy of more attention, since the title has the word “Micro-brands” in the title. Rather it was an advertisement for Ming. I found myself waiting for the presenter to “turn the page” and begin discussion of the next watch. This channel has been a source for excellent information in the past.
Joe Martinez - Correct. WH&T comes to my mind as well. And then there are those MBs that offer about the same intrinsic value as the entry-level luxury brands, but for a fraction of the price. TBH, this video’s introduction sounds a bit like WF is afraid that some of their potential future clients might not leave the MB space.
Plenty of good micro brands around - agreed they don't have the R&D, heritage etc.of more established brands, but they also don't have the overheads of a large workforce, factory marketing budgets etc - they also don't generally add a massive mark-up on their prices to reflect 'heritage' I like more expensive watches like Omega and Tudor, but I also enjoy micro brands like Phoibos and Vaer. Each has its place.....
$12,000 USD, ouch, somehow this watch has jumped in price several times in just a month... I think it's to the point of overpriced by miles at this point.
Friend of mine has the original 17.01 limited edition and it's a beautiful watch and so very different to anything out there. A decent sized collection all told but it's the Ming that gets the most attention.
I just got my first micro brand watch, a Zelos Hammerhead 2 in bronze with bronze bezel with the ETA movement so it has the display case back. I must say, I love it and would have been happy to pay more for it, it is a great value!
*”But this is just a Ming Thein advertisement”* The title may be a bit misleading, but if you were to actually see their website, they don’t sell any Ming watches (and due to low availability most likely never will).
I would love for a review of the IWC Porche Design compass watch. It is such a crazy unique watch with its aluminum body and bracelet. The different compasses that are out there for it also like the its rare qibla compass would be so amazing to see done by you.
For the record, the Ming 19.CR Monopusher is probably one of the most interesting looking watches I've seen outside F.P. Journe...... holy smokes, what a beautiful timepiece!
I've been thinking about getting a Baltic Aquascaphe for months now and I can't get over the fact that if I get fed up with the watch in the future and wanted to sell it I'd either won't be able to sell it at all or sell it at a extreme loss because most people won't even know about the brand even if the watch itself is finely crafted and beautifully designed and not at all a bad micro brand.
Most recent micro brands are buying a bunch of standard cases, movements, slap some standard dials of different colors and call it a luxury watch for fraction of a price, which in reality is mass produced garbage by someone who wears Rolex.
I think you'll get the attention of the watch community if you have: In house movements(or very reliable movements from other brands), quirky design notes, great value for money, and pristine finishing.
SirLoinOfsteak85 as the owner of two Zelos watches (soon to be three) as well as Rolex, Omega, JLC, and others, I say they hold up a lot better than you may expect; I too would be very interested to see a Watchfinder video on them!
Bad logic. Since most independent restaurants fail within the first year, most independent restaurants are rubbish. Best to stick with tried and true restaurants like Applebees, Dennys or Olive Garden.
Would love to see more micro brands here. Good micro brands. Christopher Ward, Zelos, Halios, Autodromo, etc. This video was amazing, and Ming watches are beautiful. I like that they have their own design language.
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How many people has Ming paid off to compliment his watches,this and the wrist watch revival couldn’t stop complimenting Ming!’ I guess they get a free watch and some cash!!!
It's the whole point of this channel to be honest... watch finder does not hide the fact that it sells watches. At least, it shows that advertisement that are made in an eloquent fashion and provides beautiful details appeal to some. Maybe tv advertising should take a hint.
@@shreister yup but, it depends of the price you want ton pay😅 For example, there is Code41, the model I have cost around 700$ (anomaly01 brown) Or for 2000$ you can find some nice chronographs, like the Blackout Concept stratos with a valjoux 7753, And if you want you can have Vaucher Manufacture or Romain Gauthier but... Gauthier is very expensive 😅 If take your time, you can't be wrong😉
Chosen carefully, you can get exceptional quality and value. Far less likely to get a fake even 2nd hand from a microbrand...... plenty fake rolexes etc out there
@@clive1539 sure but like I said, take your time. But an other thing you should do, is asking people about theirs experiences with the model you want 😁
Beautiful movement and finishing. But a gold-plated movement isn't solid gold (a la F. P. Journe). It would have felt more honest ( to me at least) to leave it in stainless steel. But hey, seems like he knows his intended market, what with the waiting list and all. Nice to hear of a success story in such a competitive field.
Ming is a great example, but I think 🤔 you are being very harsh on Microbrands as many are now what we would call Macro brands...plenty of success stories & I can give you a list of at least 20 current microbrands that are exceptional timepieces.
As much as I love microbrands, I think this is the case at the moment because watches are getting so much momentum. The real tell will be when the market dies down a little, how many of these microbrands will be able to sustain themselves? It's not like they have the cash lying around to weather a downturn in consumer demand. Either that, or which of these brands will do well enough before said downturn, for a larger watch group to acquire them? (Swatch, Richemont, Rolex, LMVH, etc.)
ewt415 agree with everything you have said, I run a small boutique private equity firm and we have plans for a small group or collective of macro/micro brands in 2020 under a new platform.
Nathan Chisholm I can assure you that I am not a watch snob, I have been collecting watches for half my life, 23 years so all the major Swiss Made Watches, but my passion over the pass 3 years has very much been directed at macro & microbrands the small operators that have the same passion as I do about horology.
I've just bought from a micro brand. I bought a MAEN Greenwich from the first 300 pieces made. I was cautious about spending 800 euros not because that's a huge amount but because, having never bought in that price range before, I had no idea what to expect. I usually spend much more on watches. I knew what I wouldn't get was special materials or an in house movement but I had no idea what it would represent in terms of build quality or value. What I got was and is a very stylish and well made watch which oozes quality right through. The clous de Paris blue dial is a pleasure to look at in all light as it reflects and shimmers from the cobblestone finish. The legibility is as expected off the scale and the feel of the functions from the screw down crown to the gmt movement are a delight and reassuringly solid.
I have no problem with microbrands. It's the trash like MVMT, Original Grain, all the various fashion watches out there need to go. They buy a $6 Chinese quartz movement, slap on their logo, maybe glue on a wood veneer, and call it a $200 watch. Hell, I'd even throw most Movado (who owns MVMT and others) watches into this category. You want to sell it for $50? Go for it. Jack the price up to $200+, call it a luxury timepiece and market it as such to people who don't know any better? Shame on you.
The narrator should do other videos besides watches, because I just love watching these. If he did stuff about old cars or history, I’d watch those too.
I like it. It was very smart basing their watches on movements that can be serviced by almost any decent watchmakers, you know in case the company goes belly up by the time servicing is needed. I like the design of the dial as well. I hope they succeed.
@@donjuan150 This goes beyond any investment value of watches. Buying microbrands inherently means you're risking your money for all except a few microbrands that have "made it" in the pre-owned market. The more serious consideration is if the company goes under in 10 years, who will service the watch? It's not like there's a huge catalog of parts available like Rolex or Patek.
I mean, it must be hard for a new watch company to set itself up in a world where theres already big established brands all over the place. props for making an attempt. good companies will hopefully come from it!
I’m sorry but hand done Anglage??? Please do not spread such false statements the anglage is hardly applied by hand and is actually mainly done via CNC. This information is readily available and has been stated by the owner of the company many times. Either way a very nice micro brand watch but you’re not doing any brand any favors by spreading false information.
My JLC watch, which was passed down from my grandfather to my father and from my father to me, still works and the company has always taken care of it for maintenance/repair. Spare parts for 6 different watches (3 rolex) passed to me from my father are provided and they provide the necessary service. So, who will provide spare parts and services for the overpriced products of these micro-branded companies after 20 years? I earn my money with my mind and I prefer to spend it with my mind, no need to be stupid.
the answer is that every brand starts as a micro brand, and that all watches should be taken on their own merits rather than discounted entirely because of it's provenance or lack thereof.
Interesting that it says Model 19.01 on the rear cover on this particular watch, when it is in fact a 19.02. It says 19.02 on all the watches on Ming's website, and also on all the other pictures I can find on the net. I assume this particular watch is a pre production one. Nevertheless, a beautiful watch.
I have a small collection and they're not expensive watches. My Philosophy on watch buying is this. Not too big, have a legible dial both day and night, (tritium or backlight) built like a tank, and able to withstand depths. And I like them to be nice looking. But that's all in the eye of the observer.
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The correct title of this video is: 'Ming Watches: A Love Letter'.
because they deserve that love
I’d go even further and say a fan letter.
100%... almost gave it a thumb down... Misleading title and a watch about I would say - I've seen better... Underwhelmed...
Alternatively, “Microbrand Watches Are Shit Unless They’re Ming”
@@almeladze its a fitting title. These videos are always a story and this is one of the best youtube channels. Its a good title that gives you something to think about and then he tells you a very interesting story about a watch brand. You really don't have to watch this channel if you don't like it tho
“Backordered until 2020”
Me:
Me: “wait that’s now”
Lucky you, you can order it now
Whoa... i said damn thats a long time still in my mind... wtf its already 2020
Me: woa that was a year and a half ago
I’m afraid 2020 was last year.
Micro brand but not micro price xD
Yes also not compelled to part with above micro brand prices for a watch called a Ming.
Lol definitely connotations of cheapo Chinese knockoffs
@@earlspencer7863 didn't MING get shortlisted as finalists in the GPHG? I guess we were proven wrong
@@earlspencer7863 Nothing knockoff about any of the design elements. Seems very unique to Ming, from lugs, to case shape, to pretty much any of the overall design. Also, Schwarz Etienne is no joke. The more you know...
@@earlspencer7863 lol that didnt age well 😂
Been following MING's photography for years before he started making watches. An incredibly talented fellow
A polymath
The video's title should have been "Should we avoid Ming watches?"; this isn't about micro-brands, right?
I thought he'd show a few brands like those using Seagull and Miyota movements.
Ming is a micro brand and he always has these interesting titles
There are micros with Vaucher microrotor movs (like in Parmigiani, RM) and dials by Voutilainen. Serious stuff.😎
As we all know Rolex was just a micro brand run from a small shop in London .They did ok
Never heard of the brand. Micro alright.
@@A_Friendly_Robot He wear a fake Rolex cause its no longer affordable 😹
@Andrew Lim Wrong as those oysters back then doesn't worth more then 4 figures tops...know ur history first.
@Andrew Lim Rolex wasnt a microbrand during that war 😹
The way Rolex’s fanboys talk you’d think they’re still a small mom-and-pop operation struggling to keep the lights on in their own gold foundry.
“It was such an _honor_ to buy this piece at MSRP, Mr. AD. Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. 😘😘😘 Here have my wife for the night as a token of my appreciation.”
Rolex started as a micro brand. Bought the case, bought a high quality movement, encased it and sold it under their brand. It would be interesting to see if there is a potential next "Rolex" around us.
It was century ago... world and people changed, customers became more selective and in the same time stupid. Today big manufacturing spend almost 80% of budget on marketing by doing minor updates to products what makes almost impossible to young innovative companies to compete. Sad
I think farer
@@iivv_nn Thinking the same thing. Farer is the horse to bet on.
Lorier is the only one I have any experience with and it’s absolutely fantastic!
Never thought I heard about Ming Tien on Watchfinder..... (Malaysian here)
Malaysia boleh
Ayyy proud malaysian!!!
@@TheAlucard900 only proud of this watch
Never heard of him! Watch does absolutely nothing for me but looks well made.
@@NathanChisholm041 neer heard of him either, but must be one rich bloke to start all this. watch looks really nice
This watch caught my entire attention. The mouvement is so beautiful. And that dial, otherworldly. I think I'm in love. 😍🤤
"On back order til 2020"
*uploaded 2020*
Oh no such a wait
it means those who ordered it will get in 2020.. if you order one now in 2020 you will get the watch in 2021
I have 6 Microbrand watches in my collection and I personally like them all. 2 Spinnaker a Fleuss and a Hull, a Lorier Hydra, a Boldr Expedition,a Undone Basecamp and a San Martin 62 Mas. All of them are well manufactured and the Movements are running accurate. I use them as my Daily Rockers and I can recommend them without a doubt.
I love my Boldr Venture
Micro brands are brilliant for the 99% of people that can’t afford the top end Swiss, you’ll probably find micro brand are more relevant than so of the “Swiss brands” we see in the shop windows today. Look at Doxa and Sinn arguably some of the best dive watches available, just because it’s not a Rolex doesn’t mean it’s not got a story or character.
Feels like this video had a different agenda, god forbid you recommend something that would effectively take money from your own websites pocket
Rolex was a micro brand buying in parts and assembling before where they are now. I think they still buy in parts.
Totally agree that other watches have a story and character, you never know a micro brand today could be big in 10-20 years.
Wouldnt at all consider sinn a microbrand....I also wouldnt consider them to have better dive watches than rolex, blancpain, or even omega
Dylan your missing the point
I think the video was much more benign than that. An attempt to legitimize micro brands, but yes, you have to use skepticism as your starting point in order to point out how Ming and others ride above it all.
A company that’s buying in ETA movements regardless of the company size is in essence a micro brand
I thought this would be a presentation about microbrands out there worthy of more attention, since the title has the word “Micro-brands” in the title. Rather it was an advertisement for Ming. I found myself waiting for the presenter to “turn the page” and begin discussion of the next watch. This channel has been a source for excellent information in the past.
A lot of these points are also applicable to other microbrands. It doesn't take much to read somewhat between the lines here.
Monta is a microbrand I love I recently purchased a triumph and I'm very happy all there watches get high praise
Lorier is great too... Especially their Neptune
@@arunghadi agreed probably my favourite diver style they done a good job on it
Watchfinder: Not just anyone can make a high end luxury mechanical watch.
Ming: Hold my camera.
I've been hoping to see a Ming on here. I love my mings, well above micro brand standards.
Agree! Love my copper😊
You’re quite right about this! How many do you own (if I may)?
Which ones do you own?
Despite Watchfinder's best efforts, the video surreptitiously highlights the artistry of Schwarz-Etienne co. than the watch itself. Agree to disagree.
Wow, really love that ring glow around the bezel
I want this man to narrate my funeral... It would be glorious😊
He has a voice that would lead me into battle.
But he might suggest that you're rubbish just because you aren't of Swiss parentage?
I have a bronze Laventure Sous Marine and I love it. In the pricier level of micro brand but the fit and finish is luxury level.
Joe Martinez - Correct. WH&T comes to my mind as well. And then there are those MBs that offer about the same intrinsic value as the entry-level luxury brands, but for a fraction of the price.
TBH, this video’s introduction sounds a bit like WF is afraid that some of their potential future clients might not leave the MB space.
Plenty of good micro brands around - agreed they don't have the R&D, heritage etc.of more established brands, but they also don't have the overheads of a large workforce, factory marketing budgets etc - they also don't generally add a massive mark-up on their prices to reflect 'heritage' I like more expensive watches like Omega and Tudor, but I also enjoy micro brands like Phoibos and Vaer. Each has its place.....
chris penn I usually steer clear of microbrands but must say...Vaer is a great first micro!
I'm a big Phoibos fanboy
What a wonderful way to start the year
the decade*
Time won't let me wait that long. It's been a long time coming. Time is on my side. Time, oh, time, where did you go? Time to shut up. Happy New Year!
$12,000 USD, ouch, somehow this watch has jumped in price several times in just a month... I think it's to the point of overpriced by miles at this point.
12k is a ridiculous number. I would go for a pre-owned patek 5110G at this price point
Too much! Rather a Rolex day date
Nothing like a new Watchfinder & Co. video to start the new year!!
I highly recommend the podcast with Ming on Hodinkee. He's been designing movements since he was 16.
Yes, not sure saying he was a photographer turned watchmaker is exactly fair...he was arguing over movements with captain jack as a teenager
@Temple of Ridicule yep, hipsters with hipsters values. Hodinkee became a joke in the last 2-3 years.
Temple of Ridicule So true
Hodinkee is one pretentious brand/platform journalism.
Lmao “designs movements since 16”, then starts a brand with Sellita watches
Friend of mine has the original 17.01 limited edition and it's a beautiful watch and so very different to anything out there. A decent sized collection all told but it's the Ming that gets the most attention.
I just got my first micro brand watch, a Zelos Hammerhead 2 in bronze with bronze bezel with the ETA movement so it has the display case back. I must say, I love it and would have been happy to pay more for it, it is a great value!
*”But this is just a Ming Thein advertisement”*
The title may be a bit misleading, but if you were to actually see their website, they don’t sell any Ming watches (and due to low availability most likely never will).
You mean, like Rolex?
Is this destiny, Ming Thein literally means tomorrow...and that’s his real name
Something about these videos always makes me wanna relax with a glass of nice scotch before I click.
Do you consider Stowa a micro brand?
Bucherer from Switzerland and Wempe from Germany, two jewelers in the upper price segment, have an own watch collection that would be worth a video.
@@S-A-M. Wempe is a family-owned company with a history that lasts for more than 100 years. Currently, Kim-Eva Wempe is running the company.
@@S-A-M. Saw what you did there ;-)
@@STOFLI Haha I'm german and I cant understand jokes.
@@Keckegenkai Not sure how your missing sense of humor relates to me. Anyhow, I tried to be informative and polite. Good night.
Title of video: Should You Avoid Micro Brands
Actual content of video: A look at one single micro brand.
Orion you must be new here
I must be new here as well.
I must be as well
Thanks for not posting another shitty Rolex or patek video. Originality is so refreshing.
This watch is mesmerizing. That dial is something else!
I never heard about this brand. Very tastefully designed micro rotor movement. Overall is a well made piece.
I would love for a review of the IWC Porche Design compass watch. It is such a crazy unique watch with its aluminum body and bracelet. The different compasses that are out there for it also like the its rare qibla compass would be so amazing to see done by you.
Wow amazing watch! I did not know this microbrand and it is an amazing watch. Thanks to present us this hidden gem as 1st video of 2020!
For the record, the Ming 19.CR Monopusher is probably one of the most interesting looking watches I've seen outside F.P. Journe...... holy smokes, what a beautiful timepiece!
I would love to see you talk about Doxa.
Thank you.
Have a great new year!
Probably the best bang for buck around at the moment
Ming is merciless on flaws in the finishing.
Congrats to Ming. I’ve been following him for years. I’m so happy to see he used SFO instead of LAX.
and MEL instead of SYD :D
I've been thinking about getting a Baltic Aquascaphe for months now and I can't get over the fact that if I get fed up with the watch in the future and wanted to sell it I'd either won't be able to sell it at all or sell it at a extreme loss because most people won't even know about the brand even if the watch itself is finely crafted and beautifully designed and not at all a bad micro brand.
Love the design of the hands
Most recent micro brands are buying a bunch of standard cases, movements, slap some standard dials of different colors and call it a luxury watch for fraction of a price, which in reality is mass produced garbage by someone who wears Rolex.
Thanks for covering a Micro brand. 1902 is a Very nicely made watch indeed.
Hooray from Bolehland! 🇲🇾
Pride of Malaysia 🇲🇾
malaysia boleh ! btw how much is the watch in RM ?
@@markomarin3414 1701 at 1000 gbp and 1901 at 5000. You can miltuply that by 5.something for MYR price
movements are developed by Switzerland.
I came across Ming two years ago and I was surprised
Well, that’s one way of getting a watch :-)
This channel is now therapy for me
I think this is a Beautiful Timepiece! The term “Micro Watch Brands” is new to me. Excellent Presentation and Review! Thank You!
I'd take this over a Rolex any day.
Ming watches stand up to the macro shots. That movement is magic. I want one.
Not quite! There was pitting on some parts which for the money your paying not good!
This is the beginning of a legend.
Great to start 2020 with some great Watchfinder video with great content
There are plenty of microbrands using eta movements with a level of features and finish as good as the big names for almost half the price
name some?
The video title posed a question you didn't actually answer.
If you’re doing micro brands, Zelos next please!
Just got mine! Hammerhead 2, ETA, all bronze. LOVE IT
@@bobcortez4427 Oh they're shipping? The new Mako V3 looks good too.
Oh man that is one episode i won't want to miss. I was wondering what all the fuss was about so I ordered one and now Im hooked
Helm is great too ...
Given the caliber of watches this channel reviews, it will be a cold day in hell when Zelos or any sub $5k microbrand gets noticed.
I think you'll get the attention of the watch community if you have: In house movements(or very reliable movements from other brands), quirky design notes, great value for money, and pristine finishing.
I'd be curious what you make of Zelos. Looks like great quality at a decent price...
SirLoinOfsteak85 as the owner of two Zelos watches (soon to be three) as well as Rolex, Omega, JLC, and others, I say they hold up a lot better than you may expect; I too would be very interested to see a Watchfinder video on them!
Jacob Holtman their sky raider skeleton is absolutely beautiful
Their to snobbish to look at fine watches as such!
Bad logic.
Since most independent restaurants fail within the first year, most independent restaurants are rubbish. Best to stick with tried and true restaurants like Applebees, Dennys or Olive Garden.
Would love to see more micro brands here. Good micro brands. Christopher Ward, Zelos, Halios, Autodromo, etc. This video was amazing, and Ming watches are beautiful. I like that they have their own design language.
Anyone else thought of Doug DeMuro when he said "CNC"?
Who ?
Mr. Doug who gives Doug scores to car
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@@jochem1986 Lol, yes, yess! Encouraging to see it's not just me :D
You only covered one watch in this video though, I think you should do a broader video on the topic
Zaib Javed I found this too. Good call!
im a Malaysian 🇲🇾and im impressed with this...
How many people has Ming paid off to compliment his watches,this and the wrist watch revival couldn’t stop complimenting Ming!’ I guess they get a free watch and some cash!!!
How many of you guys just watched an entire advertisement?
It's the whole point of this channel to be honest... watch finder does not hide the fact that it sells watches. At least, it shows that advertisement that are made in an eloquent fashion and provides beautiful details appeal to some. Maybe tv advertising should take a hint.
I have a lot of watches coming from micro brands and honestly, I'm very happy with
anything in particular you'd recommend?
@@shreister yup but, it depends of the price you want ton pay😅
For example, there is Code41, the model I have cost around 700$ (anomaly01 brown)
Or for 2000$ you can find some nice chronographs, like the Blackout Concept stratos with a valjoux 7753,
And if you want you can have Vaucher Manufacture or Romain Gauthier but... Gauthier is very expensive 😅
If take your time, you can't be wrong😉
Chosen carefully, you can get exceptional quality and value.
Far less likely to get a fake even 2nd hand from a microbrand...... plenty fake rolexes etc out there
@@clive1539 sure but like I said, take your time. But an other thing you should do, is asking people about theirs experiences with the model you want 😁
I am happy with my Stowa flieger and marine small second
Beautiful movement and finishing. But a gold-plated movement isn't solid gold (a la F. P. Journe). It would have felt more honest ( to me at least) to leave it in stainless steel. But hey, seems like he knows his intended market, what with the waiting list and all. Nice to hear of a success story in such a competitive field.
CHF. 11,900.00 and it looks like an Oris. But again a great review.
Ming is a great example, but I think 🤔 you are being very harsh on Microbrands as many are now what we would call Macro brands...plenty of success stories & I can give you a list of at least 20 current microbrands that are exceptional timepieces.
As much as I love microbrands, I think this is the case at the moment because watches are getting so much momentum. The real tell will be when the market dies down a little, how many of these microbrands will be able to sustain themselves? It's not like they have the cash lying around to weather a downturn in consumer demand. Either that, or which of these brands will do well enough before said downturn, for a larger watch group to acquire them? (Swatch, Richemont, Rolex, LMVH, etc.)
ewt415 agree with everything you have said, I run a small boutique private equity firm and we have plans for a small group or collective of macro/micro brands in 2020 under a new platform.
Typical snobbery I've come to expect these days! More sheep following the masses without a independent thought.
Nathan Chisholm I can assure you that I am not a watch snob, I have been collecting watches for half my life, 23 years so all the major Swiss Made Watches, but my passion over the pass 3 years has very much been directed at macro & microbrands the small operators that have the same passion as I do about horology.
@@jamesarthur6962 lol dude I wasn't talking about you I was talking about Watch finder!
Happy new year
The Art Deco vibe gives it some classical vintage values. A well made time piece, indeed.
I like the case back a lot more than the front. I just switch the strap and wear it that way.
I'm a Malaysian , i shocked when the talking hand say that the watch is made by malaysians. So pround that watch had been reviewed by him...
I've just bought from a micro brand. I bought a MAEN Greenwich from the first 300 pieces made. I was cautious about spending 800 euros not because that's a huge amount but because, having never bought in that price range before, I had no idea what to expect. I usually spend much more on watches.
I knew what I wouldn't get was special materials or an in house movement but I had no idea what it would represent in terms of build quality or value. What I got was and is a very stylish and well made watch which oozes quality right through. The clous de Paris blue dial is a pleasure to look at in all light as it reflects and shimmers from the cobblestone finish. The legibility is as expected off the scale and the feel of the functions from the screw down crown to the gmt movement are a delight and reassuringly solid.
I have no problem with microbrands. It's the trash like MVMT, Original Grain, all the various fashion watches out there need to go. They buy a $6 Chinese quartz movement, slap on their logo, maybe glue on a wood veneer, and call it a $200 watch. Hell, I'd even throw most Movado (who owns MVMT and others) watches into this category. You want to sell it for $50? Go for it. Jack the price up to $200+, call it a luxury timepiece and market it as such to people who don't know any better? Shame on you.
I only discovered Ming watches a few weeks ago and I was just floored.
It's a good day when watchfinder releases a new video.
The narrator should do other videos besides watches, because I just love watching these. If he did stuff about old cars or history, I’d watch those too.
I like it. It was very smart basing their watches on movements that can be serviced by almost any decent watchmakers, you know in case the company goes belly up by the time servicing is needed. I like the design of the dial as well. I hope they succeed.
No! Absolutely not! NTH, Phoibos, Spinnaker, Zelos,... and many more make amazing watches under 500$!
There are many good quality micro brands,but lack of spare parts keeps me away from them.
And where will the company be in 20 years? If they disappear so does the resale value, watch cannot be serviced, etc.
@@jeffm4349 They will be able to be serviced depending on movement e.g. Selita, Seiko etc.
@@jeffm4349 Buy it because you like....there not investments....
@@donjuan150 This goes beyond any investment value of watches. Buying microbrands inherently means you're risking your money for all except a few microbrands that have "made it" in the pre-owned market. The more serious consideration is if the company goes under in 10 years, who will service the watch? It's not like there's a huge catalog of parts available like Rolex or Patek.
Please please please record in 4k! Your camera work is sublime I just need to see these watches in full 4k.
I mean, it must be hard for a new watch company to set itself up in a world where theres already big established brands all over the place. props for making an attempt. good companies will hopefully come from it!
What a surprise to see a review here on a watch brand fron Malaysia. I love it. Thank you Watchfinder and thank you Ming!
I’m sorry but hand done Anglage??? Please do not spread such false statements the anglage is hardly applied by hand and is actually mainly done via CNC. This information is readily available and has been stated by the owner of the company many times. Either way a very nice micro brand watch but you’re not doing any brand any favors by spreading false information.
Christopher ward?
is that a Pentax camera on the table ?
My JLC watch, which was passed down from my grandfather to my father and from my father to me, still works and the company has always taken care of it for maintenance/repair.
Spare parts for 6 different watches (3 rolex) passed to me from my father are provided and they provide the necessary service.
So, who will provide spare parts and services for the overpriced products of these micro-branded companies after 20 years?
I earn my money with my mind and I prefer to spend it with my mind, no need to be stupid.
It uses Melbourne instead of Sydney to represent AEST 😍
Grupo Gamma, Zelos, BOLDR, Advisor, just a few awesome Bronze microbrands...
So the answer to the question, should I avoid micro-brands, is no, if the brand offers something unique?
What is unique nowadays?
Basically, if you like the design and they make something that's high quality, go for it.
@@rousseau327 Perfect answer when buying anything in life. 👍
the answer is that every brand starts as a micro brand, and that all watches should be taken on their own merits rather than discounted entirely because of it's provenance or lack thereof.
@@butre. exactly!
wow that watch really speaks to me
Interesting that it says Model 19.01 on the rear cover on this particular watch, when it is in fact a 19.02. It says 19.02 on all the watches on Ming's website, and also on all the other pictures I can find on the net. I assume this particular watch is a pre production one. Nevertheless, a beautiful watch.
Business analyst is a good job
I'm not sold on the fading dial, but overall I really like the design (and smaller diameter)
I have a small collection and they're not expensive watches. My Philosophy on watch buying is this. Not too big, have a legible dial both day and night, (tritium or backlight) built like a tank, and able to withstand depths. And I like them to be nice looking. But that's all in the eye of the observer.