Answer: It's for me - someone who loves 4x games, but whose game group doesnt have time to commit to the big 6+ hour slogs, since we only get together every couple of months.
Or for me who feels that those huge 4X games are just too much bookkeeping and in turn not rewarding me with enough strategic depth as a trade off. I prefer cleaner games with emergent depth not just spread sheets.
The audience is people with people that don't have 8 hours for board game nights! One day I'll finish a match of TI. One day. Until then, quantum seems a better bet.
Curious. I just watched the Second Sci-Fi Special to get a review on Infamy. (Joke's on me, obviously.) It's just odd that I come across this just after that.
We bought this game because of this review, and just got done playing: It's instantly my group's favorite game. By leagues. I cannot say enough good things about it. Everything is so balanced and tight and it feels good.
Just watched you review and watched one turn of a playthrough on another channel. Immediately went and bought the game. I'm so excited to rope my wife and kid into playing this one. I love 4x games and having one this simple to get other people into is fantastic. Thanks for the things you do, folks.
This is for people like me: stereotypical nerd, but not necessarily a board game nerd. Love 4x games, but I'm not enough into the space theme to go for more complex games. Also, I think that this is also for people that like games like Mission Red Planet.
One of my very favorite games, glad to see the word getting out about it! My group recently got a copy of Twilight Imperium, which is amazing, but also amazingly long. This game works great for shorter/more impromptu sessions.
Quantum! One of the very best of the interactive, strategic boardgames! I love it! Always willing to play and your review just cemented my feelings. So very fun! Of course, your review was a masterpiece as much as Quantum is a masterpiece of design. Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention.
I think you guys are drawing too distinct of a line between "geeks" and "non-geeks." Comics, sci-fi, and board games are no longer tiny niche things, they're incredibly popular these days. Popular board games like Catan and Pandemic have broadened the horizons for so many beyond the typical Monopoly & company. So while more people want and would enjoy playing strategic, thematic sci-fi games instead of casual games, there are many people who don't have the time or are willing to devote as much time to playing board games as more involved hobbyists are. There are a lot of people in that middle area.
One of the few games I bought before I started watching SU&SD, and I simply adore it. It's one of the strongest games I've ever played mechanically, and it allows people to win through a few different skills (though those who can best grok the combinations of ship powers are going to succeed most often). It may lack a few features of more glamorous 4X's, but it polishes the diamond core around which they all revolve to a mirror finish.
I have a bunch of friends who aren't as into the hobby as I am and hoodwinked them into playing Scythe. What a slog, having to rules lash them every turn. It'll be fun to see how they react when i say, "remember Scythe? imagine playing that polished down to just the fun bits."
Great review as always and I simply love Quantum. It's one of my favorite boardgames because of the different strategies you can come up with while playing and feeling really smart after executing an awesome move no one saw coming. Some of the command cards are over powered compared to others though. Especially the mentioned righteous card is very powerfull because it enables the player having it into abandoning the quest to poop his cubes the usual way and simply blowing up enemy ships until he pooped his cubes everywhere. Quantum being out of print is sad though. Maybe the publishers will do another print run eventually.
I think a way to make Righteous more balanced is to make both you and anyone you engage in combat with not lose dominance. That way you aren't putting everyone who you kill at a further disadvantage, snowballing your advantage.
I've been wanting to grab this since the second edition came out, but then other games come out... first "world" problems. I never looked at it as a 4X game, very neat. I looked at it as more akin to an area control-ish abstract. And I enjoy sci-fi themes for not being another gorgeous fantasy theme. Either way... to my collection, mwhahahahaha! PS: Thanks guys for the reviews and hard work :)
You know what, I want this game. Why? First. Modular board. Second. Easy to pick up and play. And most of all. Lots of D6. I've loved the D6 since I was a kid and this gives so much to me. and I like when that happens. The end.
Quantum is amazing and if you don't own it you should (if you can afford it and find it). It also has a special prize for the game that has destroyed the most friendships. On a critical note, any dice game has a lot of luck and can take strategy and throw it out the window, but that is what also makes quantum fun. Also the upgrade cards dramatically change the game, some are better then others. Normally this is bad but it makes this the game more fun, because it forces you to think differently each game, rather than turn out the same sequence of turns every game until the person with the better memory wins. PS: Great review!
This game is for me. I really like semi-abstract and simple games. Settlers of Catan and Tiny Epic Galaxies are a lot of fun to me, and im often turned off by bigger competitive games.
I was lucky enough to get this from my local boardgame cafe that was having a sale of it... and a couple of people I just met that night told me I should totally get it. It even came with the expansion. My wife enjoys it and keeps kicking my butt. I, the geek, actually have trouble getting into the theme, and I love sci-fi. But I don't regret getting it. I just wish I could get into it more so I would love playing it more.
The game opens with a very symmetric start, and though you can ostensibly begin with one of your ships on the back end of your home planet, there's rarely a reason to do so.
have you seen the one where they cut a hole in the bottom for a great practical joke? I also like that they don't use sleeves for their card games. It's like a book that has been read a lot, it tells a story in itself.
I've admired the design of this game for a long time, and I'm a sucker for ships in space. BUT, I can avoid the sense that in the end, it's just a well disguised, bean-counter version of combat Yatzee. As in, whomever manages to most effectively run their personal dice odds algorithm will always come out the winner. I don't want a game that's an elaborate math problem.
That's only true in a 2 player game. While you can certainly build your tech to a nearly unassailable level with the right combinations, and while players with strong eyes for combo plays will excel, there is very much still an element of diplomacy involved when the combined might of 2 or 3 players can be brought against an overly aggressive strategy. Players who understand systems, who can quickly assess risk, AND who can keep others fighting each other will come out on top the vast majority of the time.
Meris - thanks for the insight, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I can see the merits of the game play strategy you describe for more than two players.
We're still pulling reviews over from Vimeo, but we're ALMOST done, honest! Hopefully we can get everything up in the next couple weeks. Although our audience is significantly larger than it was back in 2014, so for most people I imagine this will be new.
Quinns: "Don't you ever wonder about where things come from?"
Paul: "No, no... not since my parents told me where I came from."
Quins: "..."
I hate bottoms.
Answer: It's for me - someone who loves 4x games, but whose game group doesnt have time to commit to the big 6+ hour slogs, since we only get together every couple of months.
came here to say that, I think there are plenty of people out there like you and me who have this problem.
Yep same space boat here. I also appreciate not having to setup a large scale game time to time as well.
Or for me who feels that those huge 4X games are just too much bookkeeping and in turn not rewarding me with enough strategic depth as a trade off.
I prefer cleaner games with emergent depth not just spread sheets.
So much this. I love this game, and I'm glad it's in my collection :D
"these games don''t exist in a vacuum"
That's all good but how does Diary of a Wimpy Kid Cheese Touch compare?
I adore the look of this game, and my gaming group would love it. Alas, I just went to buy it and found that it's out of print. Ouch, my heart.
you can also play turnbased or realtime for free on Boardgamearena , love that site and love this great review!
It's out of print 😭
Me: *thinking* the last few days if there's a shorter 4x game.
Google algorithms: well, I'm glad you asked.
A really great game and one of my favourites. Great mechanics, simple to learn and fantastic to play.
I don't see those last three with the youtube search bar and shut up and sit down?
Cool dice color, too bad not illuminate in dark , you made quit interesting impression on this game in this review
great subs! Great outro music :-)
The audience is people with people that don't have 8 hours for board game nights!
One day I'll finish a match of TI. One day. Until then, quantum seems a better bet.
I'm sold, buying this right now.
Been looking forward to this
Curious. I just watched the Second Sci-Fi Special to get a review on Infamy. (Joke's on me, obviously.) It's just odd that I come across this just after that.
Hi Lord Luna, sorry to bother
Where did you see the second sci-fi special, I have look for it and nothing
I kind of object to John Williams' Star Wars themes being subtitled "dramatic music"
Where is the review for Eclipse?
Rodrigo Bastos Mello I bet they review the 2nd edition.
www.shutupandsitdown.com/review-eclipse/
We bought this game because of this review, and just got done playing: It's instantly my group's favorite game. By leagues. I cannot say enough good things about it. Everything is so balanced and tight and it feels good.
Always Falling Short where do I get it
@craftsmenMC
Check description
13:10 I believe it's necessary to highlight that Quinns' idea of a dinner is a microwaved bag of potato ships.
Just watched you review and watched one turn of a playthrough on another channel. Immediately went and bought the game. I'm so excited to rope my wife and kid into playing this one. I love 4x games and having one this simple to get other people into is fantastic. Thanks for the things you do, folks.
TheMrBoyer where can I get it I need his game in my life
This is for people like me: stereotypical nerd, but not necessarily a board game nerd. Love 4x games, but I'm not enough into the space theme to go for more complex games.
Also, I think that this is also for people that like games like Mission Red Planet.
One of my very favorite games, glad to see the word getting out about it! My group recently got a copy of Twilight Imperium, which is amazing, but also amazingly long. This game works great for shorter/more impromptu sessions.
This game is still this good.
Quantum! One of the very best of the interactive, strategic boardgames! I love it! Always willing to play and your review just cemented my feelings. So very fun! Of course, your review was a masterpiece as much as Quantum is a masterpiece of design. Thanks for bringing it to everyone's attention.
I think you guys are drawing too distinct of a line between "geeks" and "non-geeks." Comics, sci-fi, and board games are no longer tiny niche things, they're incredibly popular these days. Popular board games like Catan and Pandemic have broadened the horizons for so many beyond the typical Monopoly & company. So while more people want and would enjoy playing strategic, thematic sci-fi games instead of casual games, there are many people who don't have the time or are willing to devote as much time to playing board games as more involved hobbyists are. There are a lot of people in that middle area.
A personal favourite on my shelf. Clean, fast and fun.
I love this game, I'm surprised it took them this long to review it
It didn't. This is a reupload from the original show so I'm guessing from 2014?
One of the few games I bought before I started watching SU&SD, and I simply adore it. It's one of the strongest games I've ever played mechanically, and it allows people to win through a few different skills (though those who can best grok the combinations of ship powers are going to succeed most often). It may lack a few features of more glamorous 4X's, but it polishes the diamond core around which they all revolve to a mirror finish.
I have a bunch of friends who aren't as into the hobby as I am and hoodwinked them into playing Scythe. What a slog, having to rules lash them every turn. It'll be fun to see how they react when i say, "remember Scythe? imagine playing that polished down to just the fun bits."
I found the last possible sealed copy sold from a store at the end of the Earth in Tierra del Fuego, Chile :^)
You can create your own expansion packs by buying some different colored dice 🎲
Great review as always and I simply love Quantum. It's one of my favorite boardgames because of the different strategies you can come up with while playing and feeling really smart after executing an awesome move no one saw coming.
Some of the command cards are over powered compared to others though. Especially the mentioned righteous card is very powerfull because it enables the player having it into abandoning the quest to poop his cubes the usual way and simply blowing up enemy ships until he pooped his cubes everywhere.
Quantum being out of print is sad though. Maybe the publishers will do another print run eventually.
I think a way to make Righteous more balanced is to make both you and anyone you engage in combat with not lose dominance. That way you aren't putting everyone who you kill at a further disadvantage, snowballing your advantage.
(1) Is there a review for The New Science?
(2) Every time the boys say "Pip," I do not think dice, but Warr.
I've been wanting to grab this since the second edition came out, but then other games come out... first "world" problems. I never looked at it as a 4X game, very neat. I looked at it as more akin to an area control-ish abstract. And I enjoy sci-fi themes for not being another gorgeous fantasy theme. Either way... to my collection, mwhahahahaha!
PS: Thanks guys for the reviews and hard work :)
Can't find this game anywhere so guess I'll just have to set up the barbeque
Great game that I pull out a lot, even (and maybe especially!) with more casual gamers! Looking forward to playing this for years to come.
You know what, I want this game. Why? First. Modular board. Second. Easy to pick up and play. And most of all. Lots of D6. I've loved the D6 since I was a kid and this gives so much to me. and I like when that happens. The end.
Quantum is amazing and if you don't own it you should (if you can afford it and find it). It also has a special prize for the game that has destroyed the most friendships. On a critical note, any dice game has a lot of luck and can take strategy and throw it out the window, but that is what also makes quantum fun. Also the upgrade cards dramatically change the game, some are better then others. Normally this is bad but it makes this the game more fun, because it forces you to think differently each game, rather than turn out the same sequence of turns every game until the person with the better memory wins. PS: Great review!
Me. This game is definitely for me.
Im glad I found a game to use my dice for!
(No illegal copying games here out of paper, haha)
This game is for me. I really like semi-abstract and simple games. Settlers of Catan and Tiny Epic Galaxies are a lot of fun to me, and im often turned off by bigger competitive games.
I was lucky enough to get this from my local boardgame cafe that was having a sale of it... and a couple of people I just met that night told me I should totally get it. It even came with the expansion. My wife enjoys it and keeps kicking my butt. I, the geek, actually have trouble getting into the theme, and I love sci-fi. But I don't regret getting it. I just wish I could get into it more so I would love playing it more.
I think it's for people who want a quick game. Something to do after Seven Wonders, and before dinner.
Excelente game and very unique. It's a pity it's out of print
WOW as of 10/01/2019, Cannot get Quantum!
Did you actually review any of those games...?
Surprised you didn't change the title to Quinntum.
Cool review! I think I'd play it if I had money to buy it.
Обожаю вас ребята!
I want this game but can’t find it anywhere ;-;
Did... Did he microwave a bag of crips?
I like your Budapest t-shirt
Very keen for Rex review
Should be coming over to TH-cam shortly... www.shutupandsitdown.com/videos/second-sci-fi-special/
08:00 that symbol... . It is just a coincidence?
The game opens with a very symmetric start, and though you can ostensibly begin with one of your ships on the back end of your home planet, there's rarely a reason to do so.
I did Nazi that coming!
I own this game, so I know this. But it never happens to me to realize that our map looks like a Swastika.
I had to look twice at 9:29.
I'm wondering if that's why Quinns makes that face.
#QuinnsGetSomeSleep and/or #PaulLetQuinnsSleep.
Cant find it anywhere anymorr
Quinns: "oh that's my dinner!"
*takes out some chips from the microwave*
Crisps
I've been deafened by R2D2.
IS THIS CANADA!?!?!?!?!?
Victor Pluntky no, this is an old review.
Oh, =(
I love you guys but you should really start treating your boxes a little better. You had coal on top of it!
have you seen the one where they cut a hole in the bottom for a great practical joke? I also like that they don't use sleeves for their card games. It's like a book that has been read a lot, it tells a story in itself.
Don't worry, they usually use a stunt copy for shots like that.
Did the publisher ever fix the issues with bad dice and the improved player board that the designer updated, among other things?
I know for certain that the bad dice were fixed. Not sure about the rest.
I've admired the design of this game for a long time, and I'm a sucker for ships in space. BUT, I can avoid the sense that in the end, it's just a well disguised, bean-counter version of combat Yatzee. As in, whomever manages to most effectively run their personal dice odds algorithm will always come out the winner. I don't want a game that's an elaborate math problem.
That's only true in a 2 player game. While you can certainly build your tech to a nearly unassailable level with the right combinations, and while players with strong eyes for combo plays will excel, there is very much still an element of diplomacy involved when the combined might of 2 or 3 players can be brought against an overly aggressive strategy. Players who understand systems, who can quickly assess risk, AND who can keep others fighting each other will come out on top the vast majority of the time.
Meris - thanks for the insight, I appreciate you sharing your experience. I can see the merits of the game play strategy you describe for more than two players.
Basically this game is a bigger Tiny Epic Galaxies... Huge Epic Galaxies??
NatarisX They are both in space.
move your ships around to orbit the planets, but in this game your dice are your ships.
They are not at all similar.
ok
Is this a new one?
We're still pulling reviews over from Vimeo, but we're ALMOST done, honest! Hopefully we can get everything up in the next couple weeks. Although our audience is significantly larger than it was back in 2014, so for most people I imagine this will be new.
If you are ever unsure, open the description and look at the bottom. That’s where they put the original upload date.
In this case, it’s from 2014.
Niall Reid thanks for the tip.
Thanks, my heart skipped a beat because I thought Paul was back.
Stephen Rosene yes