If Skip dont like you personally , then he wont respect you as a Pro........no matter how good you were. Lebron,T.Owens and A.I. But if skip likes you off court, he is willing to overlook bad stats.........Tebow
+brassmonkeyjew Shut yo dumbass up. AI never played with shaq. Without shaq kobe would have only 2 rings. Shaq averaged 40 and 20. No one did that but shaq so please fuck outta son.
+brassmonkeyjew The funny thing is that your talking about how much money kobe has and he will never share none of his money with you. Iverson got more money than your whole family ancestry combine. foh
How about later in his career, with the Nuggets? How about when the Spurs at a point later in his career were in a perfect position to have him play a role and win a championship but he wanted to be the focus of a team? He could have done a lot of things better and it's no surprise players weren't overly eager to play with him.
+unconTROLLed Substance exactly you can have all the defenders you want on one team but if they can't put the ball in the basket what do you expect from the teams only capable scorer
Honestly to me as a Laker fan , I felt iverson got to caught up in trying to defeat Tyron Lue in 2001 .... he had many pieces in 2001 ... and he was doing what a great player does... he was making his team better...he had the defensive player of the year and sixth man of the year on the same team....Speedy Claxton was nice off the bench , Eric snow was a good role player that year.... they had the team to beat the 01 lakers. That's why they gave them their first lost in the post season. But I feel after that AI got the big head and it was more about proving Lue couldn't guard him
This is what I dislike about Skip. AI didn't play with another big offensive performer until he went to Denver and played with Melo. To take a terse "he's our Michael Jordan" statement and build your argument around it? If Iverson shared the ball more, they would have gotten their asses kicked. There was no other offensive threat on that 76er finals team. Yes, they were a great defensive team, but you gotta put the ball in the basket. Skip's Jordan bias is overbearing. Appreciate AI for who he is and the load he had to carry, instead of criticizing him for not being Michael Jordan...
Being from VA and watching AI growing up.Hes treated like a god out here and changed the entire culture of the NBA and was unapologetic for being himself and played his heart out every game
skip is such a hypocrite Jordan + bums = 7 years of getting bounced out the playoffs Kobe + bums = 3 years of 1st round exits Melo + bums = no playoffs A.i + bums = finals appearance LeBron + bums =finals appearance . Give these guys their credit
Doesn't make a difference, you play the game Oh I guess when lebron left Cleveland they made the playoffs Oh Shit that didn't happen until he came back and Miami stayed home,stop it the proof is in your face and I am a Jordan guy, but Damn somebody else can be great and not do it the Jordan way, the same as Jordan refused to be Dr.j and be himself! the bulls almost won a chip without Mike, if the ref hadn't called a bad call on pip!
Kobe played against the same people Iverson played against. ACTUALLY , Iverson played against him and shaq, so I don't get your point? All of Kobes and Jordan's and any other great players' great runs came with decent teammatesAlex Campbell
rashawn thompson when jordan didn't make the playoffs he was put on the worst team in the east in a legendary easter conference. kobe played in a stacked west with no help. Lebron played in a weak east and when 1 team got good he couldn't handle them. A.I played on a team that was designed perfectly as best they could to play around him and is underrated for what they were.
The one thing that people can't deny is that Iverson accomplished great things despite not having (1) the ideal size like other great guards such as Westbrook, Johnson, Jordan, or Bryant, (2) a top-notch companion teammate that pretty every championship team needs to win a title in the NBA, and (3) how good he was at utilizing the "cross-over" to make sure he had space to make plays!
Nothing wrong with Iverson's game. Transport Iverson to the Bulls '98 team, adding a supporting cast of top selfless facilitators/system players like Pippen, Rodman and Harper..They would crush you in the paint, dominate you on the perimeter, and Iverson would be scoring 50 a night.
You're talking like the Bulls 98 was great supporting cast. But all the players that you're talking about had no offensive talent besides Scottie Pippen. And Scottie Pippen started to decline in 1998. He even missed half of the season, yet Jordan still carried that team to the first seed in the league. So, I get the idea and I agree that Iverson was carrying his team but the Bulls 98 are not a necessarily a very good example. Plus, there were many more talented rosters overall than the Bulls in the 90's. Just look at the teams they faced in the finals or in the eastern conference finals. Yet, I agree Iverson was carrying his team like no other player in his era.
+BeastMode 21 ego?? my man...if you played on them nameless garbage Sixers teams you'd be gunnin too.. show some respect Iverson never cheated the fans EVER
Iverson is easily as influential as Jordan in basketball culture, for better or worse. There would he no Russell Westbrook, Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, etc...without him.
Heart of a champion. If he had a guy who could score on the block and clean up the offensive boards he would've likely won a title. He had sub-par teammates who he didn't trust.
carmelo..haha ... u must be young .. We are talking about iverson in his prime on philly ... Not washed up in Denver ... Iverson is in the hall of fame for his 76ers years .. He carried that team with no other real Allstar .. Mutumbo couldnt even make a shot
This man averaged 45 plus minutes throughout his first 10 SEASONS. That man took beating after beating in the paint regularly and he still managed an almost full game for 10 years straight. Only other person able to do that while taking a beating and being the main output source was Wilt.
Now Skip is a big fan of Westbrook... Even though he is "me myself and triple-doubles" Russell is even more concentrated on himself than any other player.
Well. Skip's right you know. Iverson didn't have BUM teammates. It was perfectly built for him so he can score, score, score. His teammates do all the defensive work.
1) Skip does not listen to Lil Wayne 2) Hip Hop and the NBA has been synonymous for at least the last 25 years 3) Skip wants black NBA players to be athletes without the culture. Have a seat, Skip.
Look, he was a GREAT and ICONIC player. A super short shooting guard who in HIS teams didnt ever have incredible help, not a great defender, but when you're supposed to be an all time great, you are supposed to maintain a level of greatness consistently and when AI fell off, he fell off HARD.
wow. smh. his team's were awful offensively what did people want him to do?? pass more like cp3 and stockton?? where has that gotten them?? no where! let's stop trying to make players into what WE want them to be. we're cheating ourselves that way because look how kobe and lbj turned out. and it happened by them being themselves
Allen also played for the Nuggets, when they had Carmelo Anthony. What's your excuse for that? Or what about when the Nuggets traded him to the Pistons, who were only a few years removed from their last title upon his arrival, and still had most of their nucleus consisting of Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince. Three guys all capable of scoring. What's Iverson's excuse for that huh? The reality is that Iverson was never going to win a title with the way he played because he was a low percentage ball hogging volume shooter. And unlike Kobe and Michael, Iverson couldn't do jack shit without the ball because he needed the ball all the time to be effective on offense.
yea shut up allen iverson was a player that could make a good team unstoppable and not a bad team good if he played with better offensive player his percentage would be much higher plus he had the refs agaisnt him
In my lifetime (born 1989)... the only time I've ever seen Philly be competitive was with Iverson. The fact that he took that pack of chumps to the finals and actually took a game from the stacked Lakers team is legendary on its own.
He was a hybrid scoring guard, with immense toughness and guile. Straight baller.... one thing he, Magic, Oscar, Bron and the like did was respectful demand that you no longer look at basketball players through made up lenses, determined by old crotchity men who could not master the art-form, but allow the labels to be determined by the superior players themselves. Congrats to A.I. on the HOF induction, well deserving!
Skip always come up with the funniest nicknames. Team Obliterator, LeAlfred James, Chris Posh and the list goes on. Don't agree with them but man it's hilarious
For the early to mid parts of his years in Philly, he was the only realistic regular 20ppg+ option and the most skilled handler and passer on his team as well. Of course he's going to handle the ball a ton, make the most plays and shoot 50+% of his teams shots. Later in his career when he had Kyle Korver and Andre Iguodala, this didn't go away completely, but there was a huge improvement in his selflessness and also at the Nuggets with JR and Melo.
Never understood the "height " part. The height alone doesn't make you any better, especially if you are not skilled. Plenty of the players are tall and still terrible.
What Shannon said at the end about AI maybe not liking to practice but he left everything he had out on the court proves exactly what Skip means about Allen being "Me , Myself and Iverson"
U forgot derrick coleman tyrone hill. Skip dont know shit he never played basketball in his life only ball he ever played wit is anova grown man llz they hate anything thats real and black #whiteamericaviews
MVP , defensive player of the year, and 6th man of the year on the same team in 2001 .... don't say he never had a team in 2001, he just met a more powerful duo Shaq & Kobe
I love Skip Bayless but the real ultimate solo act was Kobe Bryant, not Allen Iverson. He has 5 titles I know but give Iverson the teammates Kobe had in his career and give Kobe the teammates Iverson had in his career and the numbers are reversed. Allan Iverson HAD to score for his team to have success and that's a fact. Now, I'm the biggest Iverson fan but please, he's not "pound for pound" the best ever either (whatever the fuck that means), that would still be Jordan and by far. I know it sounds like a good formula to apply for Iverson because he was a small yet dominant player, but I don't buy it. However, I will say this : as a cultural basketball icon, he comes right after Jordan. Nobody affected the game of basketball itself to the extent of what Iverson did. In terms of his competitiveness and his heart, he was kind of like the Jordan of his era as well. Today, that would be Russel Westbrook (even though, Iverson is obviously far more skilled than Westbrook). And I will also say that in his prime, he was the best player in the league for a long time (outside of Shaq). He was at least in the conversation along with guys like Garnett, Duncan, T.Mac, Kobe guys like that. And also, he was better than Kobe.
Federer 11 Completely false statement. Kobe is the biggest ballhog of all time. Jordan was not a ballhog. Iverson was more like Jordan in the sense that he had to carry a team. When Iverson went to denver, he said : " This is Melo's team" and he didn't have to say it because he was still bigger and better than Melo. And he decided to become the second option behind Melo. Jordan went even further, he tries to be a 6th man for the wizards to help the team. Do you hear that? Jordan started from the bench, until his coach told him to stop it. And just like Iverson, he didn't have to do it because he was the best player on the team. Kobe is the greatest ballhog of all time. He was really selfish, he disrespected his teammates openly and publicly. He missed the most shots in nba history. He always wanted to be a ballhog and he didn't mind saying it loud. There's never been a ballhog like Kobe in nba history. Except maybe Lebron James.
Megadrive Iverson was a good playmaker, definitely less of a ballhog than MJ or Kobe. 39 year old jordan took more shots than stackhouse. and jordan also dissed his teammates.
Federer 11 MJ was definitely not a ballhog. Iverson was more than only a "good" playmaker. And there's never been more of a ballhog than Kobe in the history of basketball. Ask Phil Jackson.
Actually winning was indeed important to him. Yet you can't win a game alone and with the talent around him he had no choice. Just watch his highlights. He plays with heart and soul...
Well Iverson as a 6'0 SG still faced way better SG in his era then Jordan faced in his! And he still could average 30 a night just as Jordan! But you wont see Skip tell you that... And yeah Jordan played with the same bums as Iverson did in the starting of his career and where did he take them? Nowhere... Iverson atleast took his bum team to the finals against an amazing Shaq/Kobe team Michael never had to face either! I'm saying all of this not because I think Iverson is better then Michael but because people need to put Iverson into perspective about how amazing he actually was at 6'0 winning allot of scoring titles against perimiter scorers like Wade, Bryant, McGrady, Pierce, James, Anthony guys that could average 30 a night! Amazing!!
+LycanVonWolf Are you seriously comparing the 97-98Lakers(With an High School Kobe averaging 15 ppg) that Jordan faced to the 2000-2001 Lakers Iverson faced where Kobe averaged 28,5ppg and Shaq averaged 28,7ppg and already had won a chip together and probably was at the best stage of their partnership? Jordan faced that Lakers team in 2003 and Kobe dropped 55 on Jordan(41 in the first half)! But yeah Jordan was old at that time and way out of his prime but he never had to face that type of caliber scorers in his prime because none of the SG he faced in his prime could average even close to 30 ppg like Kobe did in his sleep!
So are you saying Jordan didn't play against Kobe, McGrady, as well as Thomas among others? The guards Jordan played against were good the thing is Jordan was better. Iverson was a good player and worthy of good place in the HOF.
2001 - AI's team had the MVP, DPOY, 6THMan and Coach of the Year. Definitely not a "bum team". Played with a stacked team in Denver with Carmelo. Couldn't win, was traded for Chauncey Billups, the Nuggets then made the conference finals while the Pistons got worse. The guy was more worried stats then winning. Still a great player nonetheless. That "pound for pound" shit is ridiculous also. Means literally nothing lol
that sixers team wouldn't win the D-league championship if you took AI off! that was a team full of bums! not 1 all-star other than a past his prime mutombo!
How were the Nuggets a stacked team? Carmelo wasnt even a top 10 player, and Nene had cancer in 08. The Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Rockets all had more talented teams. 32 year old Iverson was the teams best playmaker and scorer, Melo actually took more shots. Billups only won 4 more games w/ a healthy Nene yet lost to the same team 08 nuggets lost to. In 09 Manu and Tmac were also injured which is why they even made it to the WCF. The 01 team had great rebounders and defenders, but they were an offensively deficient team. If anything, Jordan was far more concerned with his stats than AI
***** LMAO that's why MJ during his Bulls career scored 31.5 on 50.5% shooting as opposed to Iverson jacking shots. Prove to me how Jordan was more concerned. Would love to hear this.
joe draw Iverson never worried about his stats. He had no problem taking 35 shots or let teammates like Melo take more shots. Jordan's teammates called him out because he was always focused on his PPG
Give credit to A.I... He didnt have Wade, Bosh, Love, JR Smith and Kyrie Irving on his team. He had to carry his whole squad on his shoulders, especially in Philly. In 2001 he still figured out a way to win a damn game against the great Lakers. The man never gave up on his team.
can't stand this guy's objectivity of high profile black athletes. He hates outspoken, street and book smart urban community black athletes. he feels comfortable and safe cheering for head down quiet straight by the book black guys. Russel Wilson, Blake Griffin, dwade, kindve guys. he hates guys like Richard Sherman, Terrell owens, randy moss, Floyd mayweather, lebron, Russell Westbrook, kindve guys. skip is predictable, biased, and stuck in the 50's with his idea of the good ole days. I'm tired of his lame opinion,and anyone on tv like him judging talent and players that can do what he never could.
People saw for a 6'1" guard if that to win an mvp in the midst of shaqs dominance.Could you imagine if AI was 6'6" or 6"8"?Hell 6'5".For him to score the way he did was incredible.Give AI a shaq or the suooorting cast kobe had he would have a whole different legacy.
You do know that in Larry Brown's system, his teammates encourage him to score while they played defense. Now, maybe he shoulda changed his game for the other coaches he played for but not everyone adjusts to different systems.
yup the coach Larry brown told him to go out and score what did he do scored points dude was a baller with the quickest dribbles and defense man I miss the game he brought every day
As someone who grew up watching Allen Iverson, I have to say that I agree with Skip. He was not a point guard he was a shooter. However, I will also agree with Shannon in that A.I. did not have much of a supporting cast to help score and win championships, period. That closest thing we got to a shooter was #KyleKorver.
barely 6' 155 lbs soaking wet with the heart of a Lion. AI changed the game and he was a cultural phenomenon! he carried a group of D-league players to the finals and won a game against the Lakers, who were a powerhouse at that time! everyone seems to forget how hard he played every night! he took a beating night in and night out and never complained about his supporting cast or begged to bring in other superstars. all everyone wants to talk about is an interview that was taken out of contex, "We talking about practice." smh give this man is Props and stop hating on him!
The only team he played on where he didn't have to score all the time was the Denver Team with Camelo and Jr Smith. In Phillips he had no choice and still made them a playoff team basically playing by himself
If Skip dont like you personally , then he wont respect you as a Pro........no matter how good you were.
Lebron,T.Owens and A.I.
But if skip likes you off court, he is willing to overlook bad stats.........Tebow
say it again,he makes it personal no matter if you win ten rings and ten mvps ,if he Don't like you, it won't matter!
Exactly!
Rodgers too lol.Hes way too bias
Rodgers too lol.Hes way too bias
💯 correct!!!
The Answer will forever be my ALL-TIME favorite player.
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+brassmonkeyjew Shut yo dumbass up. AI never played with shaq. Without shaq kobe would have only 2 rings. Shaq averaged 40 and 20. No one did that but shaq so please fuck outta son.
+brassmonkeyjew The funny thing is that your talking about how much money kobe has and he will never share none of his money with you. Iverson got more money than your whole family ancestry combine. foh
real spit
Allen got a lifetime contract with reebok hes not going to be broke
Allen Iverson is always going to be my favorite basketball player
true
Embid has it all that man hasn't played a nba minute but he's a beast!
SAME
76 likes. Let is stay :)
Caleb Cox - would you sick him too?
SKIP! He Was On A Team Full Of BUMS!!!! What Was He Supposed To DO!?!??!!
How about later in his career, with the Nuggets? How about when the Spurs at a point later in his career were in a perfect position to have him play a role and win a championship but he wanted to be the focus of a team? He could have done a lot of things better and it's no surprise players weren't overly eager to play with him.
+Alexis Snyder Those teams didnt run through him. Do you even think?
I was watching Iverson since Georgetown and he was never a greedy bum....He was never a ball hog or any of that ...Now Kobe was another story
His teammates was worse then bums
Tyrelle Davenport What are you talking about?
The dude just got his HOF induction and they talking shit.
Give this man respect!
for real
You mean Skip
i don't think you know who skip bayless is
He's Water Pistol Pete Jr
+Big Tone Da GrindFather #firstteamalldefense 😂
Shannon, A FOOTBALL PLAYER, knows more about bball than skip baseless
“Defensive mvp” -
Skip 2 My Lou it's cause he's an actual athlete unlike bayless
No Cappin' 😂
Lol....just goes to show that a football player is more qualified than a non athlete to speak on basketball.
Also Shannon probably knows more about AI, because Iverson was also a brilliant football player.
what people fail to realize the head coach told AI that he had to shoot a min of 60 shots
yep...LarryBrown said in order for us to win...Iverson has to shoot at least 40+ shots a game
after they traded away their only other scorer because of ai.
+unconTROLLed Substance exactly you can have all the defenders you want on one team but if they can't put the ball in the basket what do you expect from the teams only capable scorer
rite on man!
Jordan wasnt a ball hog . He could shoot well
Iverson never had a team that was really top tier
He was on the Pistons who were still championship level team but his ego got it in the way. He didn't want to come off the bench
+Ray rob no the pistons traded away to many pieces when ai came there
+Ray rob the Pistons were starting to tank when he got there man that was 3-4 years after their championship runs
+Ray rob The Pistons weren't contenders in 09. All the stars were on their 30s. The pistons were rebuilding
Honestly to me as a Laker fan , I felt iverson got to caught up in trying to defeat Tyron Lue in 2001 .... he had many pieces in 2001 ... and he was doing what a great player does... he was making his team better...he had the defensive player of the year and sixth man of the year on the same team....Speedy Claxton was nice off the bench , Eric snow was a good role player that year.... they had the team to beat the 01 lakers. That's why they gave them their first lost in the post season. But I feel after that AI got the big head and it was more about proving Lue couldn't guard him
Allen Iverson is the man, for his size and jumping ability to play among Trees in the NBA that's phenomenal
MJ was my favorite but I LOVE IVERSON, that boy could straight up ball
This is what I dislike about Skip. AI didn't play with another big offensive performer until he went to Denver and played with Melo. To take a terse "he's our Michael Jordan" statement and build your argument around it? If Iverson shared the ball more, they would have gotten their asses kicked. There was no other offensive threat on that 76er finals team. Yes, they were a great defensive team, but you gotta put the ball in the basket. Skip's Jordan bias is overbearing. Appreciate AI for who he is and the load he had to carry, instead of criticizing him for not being Michael Jordan...
even MJ himself once pointed out some criticism of AI was unnecessary, especially with regards to his appearance, because it was a different era.
so iversons weakness was when he had decent teammates he was a rookie.. check
Robert D. Gordon
There's no guarantee that he would've won rings if he played differently.
You like Westbrook and hate Iverson ???
LegacYbaSe naw he don’t like Westbrook
Skip has always blamed Westbrook for KD bailing on OKC and joining GS.
skip am shock right now SMH.... Iverson was a killer in then fourth-quarter i thought skip would love Iverson aggressive basketball style
I just pictured Skip listening to Lil Wayne and it was hilarious
Watching this 5 years later and that line had me laughing too
Being from VA and watching AI growing up.Hes treated like a god out here and changed the entire culture of the NBA and was unapologetic for being himself and played his heart out every game
skip is such a hypocrite
Jordan + bums = 7 years of getting bounced out the playoffs
Kobe + bums = 3 years of 1st round exits
Melo + bums = no playoffs
A.i + bums = finals appearance
LeBron + bums =finals appearance . Give these guys their credit
speak my brother!
look who jordan and kobe played against dumbass
Doesn't make a difference, you play the game Oh I guess when lebron left Cleveland they made the playoffs Oh Shit that didn't happen until he came back and Miami stayed home,stop it the proof is in your face and I am a Jordan guy, but Damn somebody else can be great and not do it the Jordan way, the same as Jordan refused to be Dr.j and be himself! the bulls almost won a chip without Mike, if the ref hadn't called a bad call on pip!
Kobe played against the same people Iverson played against. ACTUALLY , Iverson played against him and shaq, so I don't get your point? All of Kobes and Jordan's and any other great players' great runs came with decent teammatesAlex Campbell
rashawn thompson when jordan didn't make the playoffs he was put on the worst team in the east in a legendary easter conference. kobe played in a stacked west with no help. Lebron played in a weak east and when 1 team got good he couldn't handle them. A.I played on a team that was designed perfectly as best they could to play around him and is underrated for what they were.
"Kevin Do Rant, because he 'do rant'"
The one thing that people can't deny is that Iverson accomplished great things despite not having (1) the ideal size like other great guards such as Westbrook, Johnson, Jordan, or Bryant, (2) a top-notch companion teammate that pretty every championship team needs to win a title in the NBA, and (3) how good he was at utilizing the "cross-over" to make sure he had space to make plays!
Nothing wrong with Iverson's game. Transport Iverson to the Bulls '98 team, adding a supporting cast of top selfless facilitators/system players like Pippen, Rodman and Harper..They would crush you in the paint, dominate you on the perimeter, and Iverson would be scoring 50 a night.
Bro that would be a nightmare!!!
That would've been lethal
It wouldn't work because of Iverson's ego.
You're talking like the Bulls 98 was great supporting cast. But all the players that you're talking about had no offensive talent besides Scottie Pippen. And Scottie Pippen started to decline in 1998. He even missed half of the season, yet Jordan still carried that team to the first seed in the league. So, I get the idea and I agree that Iverson was carrying his team but the Bulls 98 are not a necessarily a very good example. Plus, there were many more talented rosters overall than the Bulls in the 90's. Just look at the teams they faced in the finals or in the eastern conference finals. Yet, I agree Iverson was carrying his team like no other player in his era.
+BeastMode 21 ego?? my man...if you played on them nameless garbage Sixers teams you'd be gunnin too..
show some respect Iverson never cheated the fans
EVER
Did this man just say lil Wayne was basically the definition of rap.... Who mans is this...
😅😅😅😅
So u weren't saying that in 2005
lmao right
Get skip the foh
Skip loves to pander. You really think this hardcore super christian ever listened to Lil Wayne?
AI my favorite player he was a real warrior ! ... VA in tha house ! . Pound 4 pound the best everr
Shannon Sharpe talkin' about the Greatness of the Answer.
agree
The answer
Fire Angel Chris how did both of us find prime No chill Wonder? Lol
christian6455 naw anything with AI I am their
Fire Angel Chris Cool Player can't blame you first B Ball player I knew when I was a kid
He is in the Hall of Fame , Period. AI for ever
Shannon, THIS IS ONE of the FEW times I am in 100% agreement with you. Nailed it! Congrats!!!
People seem to forget that Iverson lead the league 3 years in a row in steals as well. He was always an underrated defender and ball hawk.
Iverson is easily as influential as Jordan in basketball culture, for better or worse. There would he no Russell Westbrook, Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard, Kyrie Irving, John Wall, etc...without him.
Heart of a champion. If he had a guy who could score on the block and clean up the offensive boards he would've likely won a title. He had sub-par teammates who he didn't trust.
Kobe had Shaq. Michael had Scottie. Steph has Klay. Lebron had Dwayne, now Kyrie. Who did AI have?
Al Capwned a Mutumbo almost out of his prime
@@DanielRGonza almost? He was 34 and slow. Unfortunately when they went to the finals he couldn't hold a candle to prime Shaq
Pound4Pound A.I is the G.O.A.T
True dat
Sometimes it annoys me when people say AI was a great player for his size, he was a great player for any size.
No cap
This dude here is hilarious he said a.i. Was me my self and Iverson but that’s mj Kobe kyrie smh 🤦🏽♂️
Iverson was the greatest POUND FOR POUND player of all time. And this is coming from a HUGE Jordan fan.
shannon out here looking fresh like a smoothie
Allen Iverson is one of my Favorite Ball players next to Kobe and MJ
Iverson was the greatest .. He carried the team .. he did not play with any hall of famers
Mutumbo
Carmelo
carmelo..haha ... u must be young .. We are talking about iverson in his prime on philly ... Not washed up in Denver ... Iverson is in the hall of fame for his 76ers years .. He carried that team with no other real Allstar .. Mutumbo couldnt even make a shot
sam sneed 26 ppg on his highest fgp in his career is washed up
This man averaged 45 plus minutes throughout his first 10 SEASONS. That man took beating after beating in the paint regularly and he still managed an almost full game for 10 years straight. Only other person able to do that while taking a beating and being the main output source was Wilt.
He wasn't a point guard though Skip he was the 2
Allen Iverson is the reason i like sports period.Amazing to watch
Go to any inner city playground and you can see the same style of basketball Iverson played.
Now Skip is a big fan of Westbrook... Even though he is "me myself and triple-doubles" Russell is even more concentrated on himself than any other player.
Me..Myself and Iverson took them to the finals against Shaq and Kobe in their prime. IVERSON THE MAN!!!
This show sucks. It's all black v. white all over again.
Race shouldn't be a factor
+H Az cant even escape and watch sports now i see
They aren't talking about race smh . Dont bring that shit up when it's not true
La melma zero uno It appears eighteen people disagree with you.
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Hates AI, loves san antonio style of play...Man, this guy must be 1000000 years old
TD & AI reminds me the 2004 Olympic, it was horrible man.
+Sam Chen they were the only superstars that played because of the terrorist threats.
i like ball movement. what is the point of seeing a guy score 30 when he barely shoots 40% like iverson?
+rich carter (bofuthereturn) his teams were ass trash garbage juice full of defensive players why wouldn't he average more than 40%
+MertensCW they did still TD
Being from Detroit it's an honor to be able to say Iverson played for my Pistons
Well. Skip's right you know. Iverson didn't have BUM teammates. It was perfectly built for him so he can score, score, score. His teammates do all the defensive work.
Allen Iverson is the reason why I started liking basketball
I think it's sexist to have a woman sit there and get paid for nothing. A man can never do that, smh
watch speak for yourself
huh?
Not true, First Take was moderated by Jay Crawford for the longest time before he stepped down from the show
It's marketing
men held that role before women dumbass
1) Skip does not listen to Lil Wayne
2) Hip Hop and the NBA has been synonymous for at least the last 25 years
3) Skip wants black NBA players to be athletes without the culture.
Have a seat, Skip.
Iverson a god, put some god damn RESPECK on his name!
Look, he was a GREAT and ICONIC player. A super short shooting guard who in HIS teams didnt ever have incredible help, not a great defender, but when you're supposed to be an all time great, you are supposed to maintain a level of greatness consistently and when AI fell off, he fell off HARD.
wow. smh. his team's were awful offensively what did people want him to do?? pass more like cp3 and stockton?? where has that gotten them?? no where! let's stop trying to make players into what WE want them to be. we're cheating ourselves that way because look how kobe and lbj turned out. and it happened by them being themselves
ya and he says 6 assists was bad. MJ averaged 6 a game
+Victor Ochoa Gonzalez he wasn't a point guard. AI was.
Allen also played for the Nuggets, when they had Carmelo Anthony. What's your excuse for that? Or what about when the Nuggets traded him to the Pistons, who were only a few years removed from their last title upon his arrival, and still had most of their nucleus consisting of Rasheed Wallace, Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince. Three guys all capable of scoring. What's Iverson's excuse for that huh?
The reality is that Iverson was never going to win a title with the way he played because he was a low percentage ball hogging volume shooter. And unlike Kobe and Michael, Iverson couldn't do jack shit without the ball because he needed the ball all the time to be effective on offense.
+Steven Escareno boy u need to stfu
yea shut up allen iverson was a player that could make a good team unstoppable and not a bad team good if he played with better offensive player his percentage would be much higher plus he had the refs agaisnt him
In my lifetime (born 1989)... the only time I've ever seen Philly be competitive was with Iverson. The fact that he took that pack of chumps to the finals and actually took a game from the stacked Lakers team is legendary on its own.
Miss skip and sas
Skip is bugging lol he said “he could have gotten those guys involved”
if i want hip hop artist I'm going to listen to lil wayne 😂😂😂
Forever my all-time favourite nba player too
We Talkin About Practice
CLASSIC!!🏀
Allen Iverson is in my top 5
I wish Stephen a Smith was there to put skip in his place
He was a hybrid scoring guard, with immense toughness and guile. Straight baller.... one thing he, Magic, Oscar, Bron and the like did was respectful demand that you no longer look at basketball players through made up lenses, determined by old crotchity men who could not master the art-form, but allow the labels to be determined by the superior players themselves. Congrats to A.I. on the HOF induction, well deserving!
Fox pays him how much to say such stupidity?
I think it’s 6 million a year
Who else could score on that team Skip 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Skip always come up with the funniest nicknames. Team Obliterator, LeAlfred James, Chris Posh and the list goes on. Don't agree with them but man it's hilarious
Water Pistol Pete Jr. Dude is a fucking scrub.
+Frank Tank watch your nasty ass mouth pistol pete is one of the greats
Russell Westbrick
he's talking about the nickname jalen Rose gave skip not Pete maravich sheesh.
+JBRONX idiot
For the early to mid parts of his years in Philly, he was the only realistic regular 20ppg+ option and the most skilled handler and passer on his team as well. Of course he's going to handle the ball a ton, make the most plays and shoot 50+% of his teams shots. Later in his career when he had Kyle Korver and Andre Iguodala, this didn't go away completely, but there was a huge improvement in his selflessness and also at the Nuggets with JR and Melo.
This is a First Take remix.
IVERSON THE BEST EVER POUND FOR POUND BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THE NBA. PERIOD, SKIP IS JEOLOUS
To be honest, if AI was 6'6 like MJ and Kobe, AI would be the GOAT. So I'ma just say it he's the GOAT in my eyes
Never understood the "height " part. The height alone doesn't make you any better, especially if you are not skilled. Plenty of the players are tall and still terrible.
Russell Westbrook the Allen Iverson of the NBA today
Because of the way AI changed the game and the culture of the NBA, I would say that he's worthy of being on the Mount Rushmore of basketball ✊🏾
Allen Iverson Is The GOAT!
Ever since he left first take he's been saying crazy things cause he ain't around Stephen A.smith anymore
What Shannon said at the end about AI maybe not liking to practice but he left everything he had out on the court proves exactly what Skip means about Allen being "Me , Myself and Iverson"
this is just dumb. he's damn near in hall of fame. why are u taking anything away from a man who beat the odds and created a legacy.
Iverson OWNED his stuff....PERIOD!
People's love for Iverson won't allow them to admit all of his faults. He was a selfish player
Buggin Questioning his heart
LETS NAME ALL A.I TEAMMATES 😂😂😂
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Aaron mckie Eric snow theo Ratliff. Mutumbo kukoc. I hate skip but he do got a point.
U forgot derrick coleman tyrone hill. Skip dont know shit he never played basketball in his life only ball he ever played wit is anova grown man llz they hate anything thats real and black #whiteamericaviews
+SOUF SMOKE lol yeah
MVP , defensive player of the year, and 6th man of the year on the same team in 2001 .... don't say he never had a team in 2001, he just met a more powerful duo Shaq & Kobe
I love Skip Bayless but the real ultimate solo act was Kobe Bryant, not Allen Iverson. He has 5 titles I know but give Iverson the teammates Kobe had in his career and give Kobe the teammates Iverson had in his career and the numbers are reversed. Allan Iverson HAD to score for his team to have success and that's a fact. Now, I'm the biggest Iverson fan but please, he's not "pound for pound" the best ever either (whatever the fuck that means), that would still be Jordan and by far. I know it sounds like a good formula to apply for Iverson because he was a small yet dominant player, but I don't buy it. However, I will say this : as a cultural basketball icon, he comes right after Jordan. Nobody affected the game of basketball itself to the extent of what Iverson did. In terms of his competitiveness and his heart, he was kind of like the Jordan of his era as well. Today, that would be Russel Westbrook (even though, Iverson is obviously far more skilled than Westbrook). And I will also say that in his prime, he was the best player in the league for a long time (outside of Shaq). He was at least in the conversation along with guys like Garnett, Duncan, T.Mac, Kobe guys like that. And also, he was better than Kobe.
Jordan was a bigger ballhog than Kobe
Federer 11
Completely false statement. Kobe is the biggest ballhog of all time. Jordan was not a ballhog. Iverson was more like Jordan in the sense that he had to carry a team. When Iverson went to denver, he said : " This is Melo's team" and he didn't have to say it because he was still bigger and better than Melo. And he decided to become the second option behind Melo. Jordan went even further, he tries to be a 6th man for the wizards to help the team. Do you hear that? Jordan started from the bench, until his coach told him to stop it. And just like Iverson, he didn't have to do it because he was the best player on the team.
Kobe is the greatest ballhog of all time. He was really selfish, he disrespected his teammates openly and publicly. He missed the most shots in nba history. He always wanted to be a ballhog and he didn't mind saying it loud. There's never been a ballhog like Kobe in nba history. Except maybe Lebron James.
Megadrive Iverson was a good playmaker, definitely less of a ballhog than MJ or Kobe.
39 year old jordan took more shots than stackhouse. and jordan also dissed his teammates.
Federer 11 MJ was definitely not a ballhog. Iverson was more than only a "good" playmaker. And there's never been more of a ballhog than Kobe in the history of basketball. Ask Phil Jackson.
Megadrive only season kobe took over 25 shots was during the mid 2000s mediocre lakers roster. could jordan handle being the number 2 to 2000 shaq?
Actually winning was indeed important to him. Yet you can't win a game alone and with the talent around him he had no choice. Just watch his highlights. He plays with heart and soul...
Well Iverson as a 6'0 SG still faced way better SG in his era then Jordan faced in his! And he still could average 30 a night just as Jordan! But you wont see Skip tell you that... And yeah Jordan played with the same bums as Iverson did in the starting of his career and where did he take them? Nowhere... Iverson atleast took his bum team to the finals against an amazing Shaq/Kobe team Michael never had to face either!
I'm saying all of this not because I think Iverson is better then Michael but because people need to put Iverson into perspective about how amazing he actually was at 6'0 winning allot of scoring titles against perimiter scorers like Wade, Bryant, McGrady, Pierce, James, Anthony guys that could average 30 a night! Amazing!!
+LycanVonWolf Are you seriously comparing the 97-98Lakers(With an High School Kobe averaging 15 ppg) that Jordan faced to the 2000-2001 Lakers Iverson faced where Kobe averaged 28,5ppg and Shaq averaged 28,7ppg and already had won a chip together and probably was at the best stage of their partnership? Jordan faced that Lakers team in 2003 and Kobe dropped 55 on Jordan(41 in the first half)! But yeah Jordan was old at that time and way out of his prime but he never had to face that type of caliber scorers in his prime because none of the SG he faced in his prime could average even close to 30 ppg like Kobe did in his sleep!
So are you saying Jordan didn't play against Kobe, McGrady, as well as Thomas among others? The guards Jordan played against were good the thing is Jordan was better. Iverson was a good player and worthy of good place in the HOF.
yeah, MJ's era was full of elite bigs. i'll take Shaq over Jordan if i'm building a team
Deenijel lmao whats wrong with your brain dont put jordan n iverson in the same breath, you tube here use it yougin
Thank you. FACTS ONLY
Like ochocinco once said skip says ish for shock value lmaooooo
2001 - AI's team had the MVP, DPOY, 6THMan and Coach of the Year. Definitely not a "bum team". Played with a stacked team in Denver with Carmelo. Couldn't win, was traded for Chauncey Billups, the Nuggets then made the conference finals while the Pistons got worse. The guy was more worried stats then winning. Still a great player nonetheless. That "pound for pound" shit is ridiculous also. Means literally nothing lol
that sixers team wouldn't win the D-league championship if you took AI off! that was a team full of bums! not 1 all-star other than a past his prime mutombo!
How were the Nuggets a stacked team? Carmelo wasnt even a top 10 player, and Nene had cancer in 08. The Lakers, Spurs, Mavs, Suns, Rockets all had more talented teams. 32 year old Iverson was the teams best playmaker and scorer, Melo actually took more shots. Billups only won 4 more games w/ a healthy Nene yet lost to the same team 08 nuggets lost to. In 09 Manu and Tmac were also injured which is why they even made it to the WCF.
The 01 team had great rebounders and defenders, but they were an offensively deficient team. If anything, Jordan was far more concerned with his stats than AI
***** LMAO that's why MJ during his Bulls career scored 31.5 on 50.5% shooting as opposed to Iverson jacking shots. Prove to me how Jordan was more concerned. Would love to hear this.
joe draw Iverson never worried about his stats. He had no problem taking 35 shots or let teammates like Melo take more shots. Jordan's teammates called him out because he was always focused on his PPG
***** LMFAO in the 1991 Finals MJ averaged over 10 assists per game.
Give credit to A.I... He didnt have Wade, Bosh, Love, JR Smith and Kyrie Irving on his team. He had to carry his whole squad on his shoulders, especially in Philly. In 2001 he still figured out a way to win a damn game against the great Lakers. The man never gave up on his team.
can't stand this guy's objectivity of high profile black athletes. He hates outspoken, street and book smart urban community black athletes. he feels comfortable and safe cheering for head down quiet straight by the book black guys. Russel Wilson, Blake Griffin, dwade, kindve guys. he hates guys like Richard Sherman, Terrell owens, randy moss, Floyd mayweather, lebron, Russell Westbrook, kindve guys. skip is predictable, biased, and stuck in the 50's with his idea of the good ole days. I'm tired of his lame opinion,and anyone on tv like him judging talent and players that can do what he never could.
Why is this video quality better than the videos posted in now in 2021??
They even got the uglier version of molly
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you trippin!!! lol
Molly ugly as fuck! she just has a nice bust.
Both of them can Get the Work lol
yohannes244 exactly!!! lmaoo
Shannon you are great and very knowledgeable. God Bless you. Keep on Trucking my Man. Right on Point.
I agree with Skip...i dont know what ppl see in Iverson that is so great
*triggered*
I don't see whats so special about Curry.
People saw for a 6'1" guard if that to win an mvp in the midst of shaqs dominance.Could you imagine if AI was 6'6" or 6"8"?Hell 6'5".For him to score the way he did was incredible.Give AI a shaq or the suooorting cast kobe had he would have a whole different legacy.
Alex Real yeah him too also Cam in NFL i mean pump the brakes ppl
Elijah Jacob if AI was that height it would be crazy!
You do know that in Larry Brown's system, his teammates encourage him to score while they played defense. Now, maybe he shoulda changed his game for the other coaches he played for but not everyone adjusts to different systems.
yup the coach Larry brown told him to go out and score what did he do scored points dude was a baller with the quickest dribbles and defense man I miss the game he brought every day
Skip Bayless averaged 1.4 points a game in his high school basketball team.
Allen Iverson was a SG.. Allen Iverson got blackmailed by the media.. Iverson was phenomenal, nobody change the game and meta like iverson
As a fan of basketball Allen Iverson was an amazing player. I appreciated his game more as time went on.
Every pro athlete brings his/her community.
His heart was the only reason why I loved watching Allen play.
Shannon is on point on this one. Cmon Skip!!!! Even Shaq gave Iverson props... enough said
Lawd Shannon I luv the way u explained it simply put . About iverson
As someone who grew up watching Allen Iverson, I have to say that I agree with Skip. He was not a point guard he was a shooter. However, I will also agree with Shannon in that A.I. did not have much of a supporting cast to help score and win championships, period. That closest thing we got to a shooter was #KyleKorver.
barely 6' 155 lbs soaking wet with the heart of a Lion. AI changed the game and he was a cultural phenomenon! he carried a group of D-league players to the finals and won a game against the Lakers, who were a powerhouse at that time! everyone seems to forget how hard he played every night! he took a beating night in and night out and never complained about his supporting cast or begged to bring in other superstars. all everyone wants to talk about is an interview that was taken out of contex, "We talking about practice." smh give this man is Props and stop hating on him!
Latrell Sprewell was one of the first players in the nba to rock cornrows in the 90's
The only team he played on where he didn't have to score all the time was the Denver Team with Camelo and Jr Smith. In Phillips he had no choice and still made them a playoff team basically playing by himself