Skip Bayless reflects on Manu Ginobili's career: 'He was basketball genius' | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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- Last night, Manu Ginobili's number was retired in a ceremony by the San Antonio Spurs. Hear what Skip Bayless has to say about Manu and why he was a 'basketball genius.'
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Skip Bayless reflects on Manu Ginobili's career: 'He was basketball genius' | NBA | UNDISPUTED
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Do you think Manu Ginobili's career is underappreciated?
Yes
of course he is the 6th best 2 guard of all time behind MJ-Kobe-Wade-Clyde-Gervin-Manu
and i am the biggest fan of Vince-Tracy and will consider AI a point for now. this is for the modern Era cause im not counting West
Yes
Slightly.
Big time
The man won at every level. No ego. Heart of a lion. Winner. Leader.
He's all that but not better than Duncan!
@Diego Valdez it was skip that started it bu saying Ginobili is top 30 player! Ridiculous
*Ahem* LeBron...
juanio greatest spur Duncan or many?
@Diego Valdez divide & conquer programming that sports stimulates from a child we are probed into competition .
We battle over nothingness
Completion vs competition
I miss the days when Charles Barkley screamed "GINOBILI!" #GraciasManu
I thought it was KENNY
@@seanwilson8168 Nope.....Chuck
@@jerry85g7 ok thx
Seize 3 Yes!!! :D :D :D
When the NBA was competitive..yea I remember that
I dont know if Manu is top 30, but Shannon calling him just a "good player" is insulting.
J Black manu was incredible what’re you talking about
J Black Yeah man, he was. That guy could have easily averaged 25 a game on another team as a starter.
J Black because he was a spur and made the sacrifice to come off the bench ..he easily would have avg 25-30ppg
Ginobili is ICONIC
Reeko Shannon said he was great
How is the guy who made the euro step not a transcending player 👀
Stop talking facts
Thank you
If he created the euro step... then it shouldn't be called euro step
@@alegomso Mostly because he... haven't created it :D It was used in Europe WAY earlier and it began to exist in NBA with influx of euro/post-soviet players after fall of Iron Curtain. Check for example Šarūnas Marčiulionis. Move was popularized in NBA by Manu, but he for sure haven't "created" it :)
sergman1 lol i know he didn’t create it... i only mentioned it because he’s not european.
Yes. Sarunas Marciulionis brought the Euro step to the NBA. Manu was an extremely athletic yet very crafty player. A hall of famer for sure. He did things that allowed his team to win games. Skip and Shannon made statements that showed me that they don’t understand the game extremely well. But they have a right to their own opinions as well as others.
Of course Shannon hates Ginobili. He’s part of the reason Lebrons Finals record is so bad 😂😂
Do you watch basketball Manu was never the best player over Duncan are dumb
Money Mitch Skip was wrong saying Ginobili was better Duncan is a top 10 player. But Manu should’ve won Finals MVP in 2005 series against Detroit. Shannon acts like he’s some role player
Lose in 7 while scoring more total points.
Win in 5 by a record total point margin.
7-15 vs GSW in the Finals
So much to cry about...
There was no hate just facts
Good point
He beat duncan,carmelo lebron and iverson in 2004, tell me one player that has take down a team like that
Facu G if hes so good why has he never won an mvp or even a finals mvp
Well lebron and melo didn't even play
Zion Williamson
Facu G well lebron and melo had just got to the league so
You can Larry brown coaching he barely played the young talent...so technically he didnt beat lebron and melo or wade
A lot of teams will rather have a “Ginobili” than a “Harden” especially in the playoffs
Exactly dude.
Yeah he showed the Rockets that a few years ago.
Last time he was in the playoffs he blocked harden right lmaooo
Anyone who would take Harden over Ginobili in the playoffs doesn't know basketball.
ginobili> har en . manu actually played defense .
Skip is the only one who gives Ginobli the respect he deserves..
He give him a little too much respect. Tim Duncan was more important to the spurs than Manu and Manu is not a top 30 player of all time. Skip tend to be bias towards players he love. He the same guy who said Scottie Pippen is not a top 50 player. Scottie Pippen is a better overall player than Manu Ginobili. Overall manu is a great player and was underrated his whole career.
Has anyone looked at manu ginobili's stats for his career? He was impactful but he did not have the numbers to even be considered a top 50 player.
@@leonardmcafee6937 Let's not act like players in the top 50 was nearly as clutch as Manu, cuz that's when his game was at his highest level imo
Say what you want, but he's still not top 50.
@@glyde1000 there are plenty of clutch players that are not top 50. Lou Williams, Derek fisher, Andre igudala, Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy . I could go on but the point is he averages about 13 points a game with 3 rebounds and 4 assists. An injury prone d Rose and Lou Williams average more than that. There are 8 rookies and about 20 nba sophmores that have better numbers than that on less developed teams. Manu is great. Creative. Clutch. Has great moments but the truth is he is primarily great because of the team he was on. Much like how Draymond may not be as impactful if not on this current Golden State team.
Ginobli was robbed the 05' NBA Finals MVP !!
Big time... he was by far the best player on the court and he was the only reason they destroyed that Pistons defense that seemed unbeatable... Manu was that unpredictable guy that was just unguardable cause no defense could read him...
God bless you, I thought nobody remember it anymore.
Arnaldo Andres absolutamente!
If you look at Manu's stats in the 4 Finals Games the Spurs won, he was no doubt the MVP of that Finals.
Cameron Ching that was the least watched finals in nba history! Ratings were horrible people probably forgot because most didn’t watch it lol 😂🤷🏾♂️
Manu was *THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER* of the 2005 NBA Finals - trophy or not.
Ask the Pistons.
Darren Gordon-Hill I'm a spurs fan and I think that true
Watched that series. Yeah, he got robbed by Timmy.
Darren Gordon-Hill I was a teenager and watched him in awe. His clutch shooting, defense, and intellectual jumped out the screen. He was special during those Finals and I’ve been a fan ever since.
Fax
I would have given it to big shot bob before manu
"Those who know... know." There ain't ever been a truer statement. Every person that legitimately watched Ginobili play had their moment where they were like "Ginobili is actually the scariest guy in this game."
Amen to that.
Only white people had those moments. Other races saw the big fundamental
my favourite player, his passing and motor, he made me fall in love with this game. I don't really care if he is top 20 or outside top 50, he was fire and joy personified
He’s just Like the European, MJ
Ginobili was the reason I didn't fall asleep watching Spurs games
Thank you
this comment is enough for manu to be in all time greats.
kiLLjoy24CALI tony Parker I thought was the quickest or near the quickest at getting to the rim and finishing for a few seasons. Manu was More Spurs PG than Parker lol
I agree
Acting as if Basketball is a sport that is exciting.
Lol The only person skip would take over Jordan 💯
Hassan Monroe Tim Tebow
clifd91 you funny af 😂😂😂
Jordan is perhaps the only player Skip would take over Manu
Sean Lee
Psycho Tom💀
Ginobili was an AMAZING player.
I watch him play and his game transcended stats. To me he is the first in line example of how stats can be deceiving.
Again, amazing player, high IQ, crafty, heart of a lion and winner.
Thank you Manu for the years of basketball you give us.
I mean stats arent really deceiving in his case. He came off the bench so his stats arent expected to be crazy. When he started he put up the numbers
@@TheIcemanthomas what he means by that is, the plays you have to watch the game to see what manu did like when he locked up james harden or when he sparked a team run you cant find a stat for that
stats are the most important aspect from a player that is a starter can we stop with this narrative
@@erionfetahaj8851 not really all nba players and coaches will tell you that they have a certain player, or players that impact the game in a way the doesnt show up on the stat sheet the old draymond green is an example, andre igoudala when he won his finals mvp, and ginobli, thats why people always say its better to watch the games they dont have a stat for everything like drawing charges saving the ball with good hustle, yea stats tell you alot but if you depend on them too much you wouldn't understand what really happens in the games
@@coldkilladubk8373 i know what he meant. I'm saying that because typically that is something said about guys who are particularly known for putting up number. Ginobli has and can put up numbers. I'm saying stats can explain his play. His stats dont show it because he isnt starting, not only because hes an intangible guy. He does do the small things that don't show up in stats, but that's not why his stats arent amazing is all I'm saying.
People don’t really understand how great Ginobli truly was, one of the greatest passers I’ve ever seen as well
Im with Skip on this one. Manu is FAR greater than just a great player. The man WAS PHENOMENAL.
Disagree
00Mindi00 not Top 30 of all time my G!
So am i. And i hate how Skip disses Pippen.
Manu Ginobili #20 is the Greatest 6th man in the history of the NBA, Period!
Robert horry
Philip Meade Nope
i will give you that but he aint a top 30 player, i will give 7 sg on top of my head that are better than him ,mj-kobe-dwade-jerry west -walt fraizer-clyde drexler and james harden
James harden is trash hes a diva like lebron that's why kobe made a statement on him saying that type of basketball dont win championships but manus style 4 rings cough cough
Havlicek should've been starting but he was insane off the bench
God damn, Shannon is a hater this episode. Ginobili BLED excellence, this is coming from a Steve Nash era Suns fan. So much respect for Manu, we will miss you.
Ok, but he's still not top 50
Jason Smith your right he’s top 30
Just giving skip bayless his own medicine.
I like manu but shannon is just gvng facts. Skip was given a medicine by shannon. U r a hater.😂😁
DoubleFailMech Versatile and highly effective scorer, one of the greatest passers in NBA history, tenacious defender and is a full on team player who is willing to do even the little things to win.
He’s a First Ballot Hall of Fame without a doubt he was special
This aged beautifully
Spot on!
👏👏👏
Not because of his NBA career but his international career which Shannon eluded to.
What Shannon has said about Ginobili was straight up disrespectful, like what Skip said, only the people who really watched Ginobili play knew how good and how special he was.
They also kno how dirty of a player he was and that's the reason Shannon doesn't like him
He was a third option player throughout his nba career
@@jonjohnson1978. he sacrificed himself for the greater goods, he's always going to be the first or the second options in any other teams during his prime.
@@superbilly16 being a first option elsewhere doesn't make u a top 10 or 30 player, that's my only issue with skips comments
Dude you like it doesn't make it true, Id like to think your mom's hot but she ain't either. Manu is top 30 that's dead right there. 6th man on a dynstay
Skip overrated him, Shannon underrated him. Simple as that.
Exactly my thoughts when watching this.
Smite Stuff FACTS
so top 40, sold!
I don't think shannon underrated him to be honest
Skip was legit being a prisoner of the moment... No one ever mentioned ginobili as the second best two guard in the game outside of that scouting report... People are starting to overrate him... How can he be underrated if everyone calls him underrated?
Manu Ginobili was one of the best hustlers in basketball history next to Dennis Rodman. Playground basketball players know what I mean. But he was all over the damn place chasing down balls & defenders. His energy was off the charts.
Manu does deserve more respect ✊🏿
4 rings and a gold medal! LEGEND
Don’t forget a euro chip
and now HoF
Plus world cup and FIBA championships
Manu dunked on Miami heat to avenge the prior year's lost was my favorite Manu moment. What a legend!
EuroLeague, NBA, Olympics.
Futhermore, Melo = 0 rings, laughed at coming up the bench.
Ginobili = 4 rings, begrudge coming off the bench but accepted it because that's what teamball needs.
Manu missed 1 of the final game ending free throws in 4th quarter of game 6 of the 2013 NBA Finals. If he made it the Spurs would have won that championship lol.
manu is the only guy in the spurs that scared me when facing against nash-led suns in the mid 2000’s...no one can stop him
@@eddieanderson9399 kawhi's miss was more crucial
@@johnnybgoode4778 Manu had a terrible turnovers and bricks that game as well. He blew game 6 more than anyone.
Lol melo ain’t even top 100 in my opinion for that exact reason you mention.
Manu is freaking big time. The guy only took like 12 shots per game during his prime. He could easily average 20+ points but he chose to let his teammates eat. Mad respect.
Shannon has never been so wrong. I'm glad Skip called him out for it. Duncan was a better player but they never would've won as much as they did without Ginobili.
If he was that good why didnt he start?
@@alexedsell8138 Because it was more beneficiary if he came off the bench.
@@Abbad1579 he was good no doubt. But the best players are never on the bench and never in history has it been if you are better than the starters are you on the bench.
@@alexedsell8138 You know Manu used to be a starter lol? And when he went to the bench, he had the best years of his career.
I usually agree more with Shannon than Skip, and during those Spurs runs I usually rooted for the other teams, but man, Manu was an absolute Beast!!! I like how Skip gave him his due props but Shannon has no arguments for not recognising the accomplishments of a Legend on his retirement ceremony... Wow, Manu, we miss watching you, you're an inspiration! The comparisons to Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are legit.
He will never be unappreciated for the sacrifices hes done for my spurs. #GRACIASMANU
4 NBA championships in 16 years in the league, the man is a Legend.
Gold medal for Argentina. May be his biggest accomplishment.
A legend in Argentina for sure.
Manu is the best 6th man to come off the bench and start in the starting lineup
Lou Williams would like a word...
@@bio1990 james harden would like a word....
Sam Co 4 chips will end the discussion
@@wj7689 fair but you can't tell me that Lou doesn't have ice in his veins
Lou Williams ALL DAY
Manu deserved more All Stars games and 2005 final MVP
Overrated
@@musicmonster3033 highest win shares in playoffs history and winning at every level professionally is overrated? Lmao sit
Did Shannon just compare Manu to Robert Horry?
Luke Koebele 🎯
Bob was more clutch...
Maurice Williams Manu was overall a better player tho
Clearly you aren’t able to compartmentalize a conversation. He was making a point that being clutch, doesn’t make you the best player. Hopefully this helps your comprehension.
@@Bigfoot985 like how you compartmentalize rhetorical questions? I understand the argument that being clutch does not make a great player but if you ever saw Manu play (and Shannon obviously didn't as Skip says) knows very well that he literally did everything! Including clutch moments. And that is not the definition of one Robert Horry.
Seriously, Shannon? No respect
For once I can agree with Skip on an NBA topic...respect...this is why Ginobili is in my top 3 favorite of all time
Well your top 3 sucks bro
My top 10 for sure
U have my respect bro
I dont get what yall are smoking...manu isnt even near top 50..he has lass than average stats no mvps no defensive payers of the year, no rookie of the year, and never led his team in ANY STATISTACAL CATEGORY...so on what basis is he even close to being even considered a hall of fame or even a top 10 spur player??? A clutch shot here and there???? Common...he cant be concidered great because he was foreign and just there...there has to be substance..and ive yet to see where there is cerdibility other than" you just HAVE TO WATCH" OR HAVE TO HAVE BEEN THERE" wheres the facts...him being your" favorite" doesnt have substance or evedence that it is factually true..
alex edsell u didn’t watch San Antonio basketball
Damn Shannon was lowkey disrespectful in this one 😂😭😂
He had to cause skip is fantasizing
@@ramzyy5362 I don’t agree with skip on a lot of things but anyone that knows anything about 2000s basketball knows he’s not fantasizing about anything. He’s not a very good player he’s an all time great player that changed the game. He’s the greatest sixth man ever and a first ballot hall of famer. One of the greatest slashers ever in an era where there was trees guarding the basket
He was right
Skip will do that to you , the man said Manu was better than Duncan 😑 how?
@@jacksonsmith4935you're an idiot. You only think that because you and ginobli are white
As a die hard laker and Kobe fan when we played the spurs repeatedly in the playoff the player on that team who scared me the most was manu n for a period of time I also think he was the best overall player on their team he could score rebound a GREAT passer and could defend and draw charges and they gave him the ball to close so it’s not far fetched to say he was the best player
Really? You couldn’t stop Duncan... and didn’t Tony Parker always tear y’all up. Manu had the black mamba to worry about lol.
Elijah Fields Duncan, Robinson, and kawhi are clearly better. I would take Manu over TP any day tho.
Ginobili is one of the all time greats. He's a big reason the Spurs were so dominant. He had a huge impact on the playing styles of every player in the NBA, especially Wade who adopted Manu's euro step better than any other player. His tenancity on defense and offense is to be respected - a true champion.
LeShannon just hating. Spurs spanked Lebron too many times.
Lol true.😂
name one person on the spurs whos better than lebron
Jayy
Tim Duncan
@@Frostshokula HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHHAHHHHAHAAHAHHHHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... wait ur serious?
Jayy
Tim Duncan is the GOAT at his position. Lebron isn’t.
Shannon 🤦stop it ....he beat the USA in the olympics ...give the man his Respect
He made the eurostep better and brought it to the nba and yes his career has been underappreciated
If he invented the Euro step shouldn't it be called the Argentinian step?
@@KNByam obviously you don't know basketball
He's not American, bothered with swag or stat padding so doesn't get the universal adulation from the casual hypebeast fans. That Olympics win was legendary.
It was his signature move. Just like CP3, Rondo, D Rose all did the teardrop. A long time ago.
Yeap Marciulionis brought the euro step. FACTS
With that Frederick Douglas haircut he shouldn’t come out 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Douglass*
He took a shot at tim
Shannon Sharpe shouldn't come out with those Mr Ed. Horse lips.
Unc shay got zero chill 😂😂😂😂😂
Lmfao
The year when spurs beat pistons to win the championship, in my opinion manu should be the finals MVP, not duncan.
Top 30 or top 50 ..... I have nothing to do with the stats as a fan..... I just want to see my fav player go out and play. His ceremony was for the fans and not for the analysts. Love Manu and and let's go spurs
Sometimes Shannon kills me with his basketball analysis. He reminds me of that kid at the lunch table that knows every statistic but doesn't know anything because he doesn't appreciate the killer instinct in the basketball world. I'm glad Skip called him naive.
Frankie Eteuati i agree nowadays its hard to argue about basketball and who the better player because people are just watching highlights and looking at the box score
Shannon saying facts. .skipp is just amazed of manu. .because of play making ..but manu is not the great player of the team. .coz the great player of spur team is coach gregg.
Manu was good but not top 30, skip was being ridiculous
@@russmatthew7120 he is a top 30 ....don't worry...u won't see a guy like him again ...i can assure u that
@@princeatc exactly.....only highlights and some stats
James Harden over Ginobili ? please!!! the bear is a choke machine y playoffs
El canal de Globulin You’re on drugs now come on
CAMERON JEFFRIES nah he’s a choke machine he can begin to change that this year tho we shall see
@@WhoKilledWesley regular season stats or being clutch in NBA playoffs/finals ???? I think most fans will take the clutch gene over meaningless stats in the REGULAR SEASON
El canal de Globulin thats the only one i said nah to james harder a choke artist
Say what you want, but he's still not top 50.
Horrible from Shannon Sharpe. He can’t appreciate the intangibles as his guy is severely lacking in them, so no surprise he wouldn’t recognize a player who had some of the strongest in history.
13, 3, and 3 HAHAHAHAHAHA. skip thinks hes better than scottie pippen, my lord
Manu had all intangibles lebron doesnt thats why he hating.
Anyone who's watched Manu play all these years knows Sharpe is clueless. Anyone who knows the advanced stats knows Sharpe is clueless.
If Manu was black he wouldve got more respect..
Race has nothing to do with it.
I agree
I agree whith you!!
JWI Guy ofc it has, why you think he got drafted in the second round coming from a Euroleague title, bc he wasn’t American ppl disrespected his game , just like they did with Luka before the draft
Amen
2005 Manu Ginobili should have been finals MVP! Manu was the best player for the Spurs for that series, HANDS DOWN!
I stand on that... I have told any and every bball lover that Tony n Timmy D dont have 4 chips without Manu
Michael Spragan and Manu don’t without them what’s ur point
Razor58 if you watched the video, Shannon said Manu wasn’t the best Spur for a season or series. Manu was the best player for that 2005 season. I guarantee you, if you ask any of those Detroit players they would tell you he was the best player for the Spurs. Manu would have been Harden if he had control of a team and Harden would have been Manu if he was still coming off the bench like he did in OKC.
I would have been okay with Manu winning co-MVP with Duncan. Tim had to deal with a three-headed monster in the paint named Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, and Antonio McDyess, and Duncan's help down low was Robert Horry and Nazr Mohammed. I don't see how the Spurs win that series without either Manu OR Tim.
I agree, 100%. As a guy who watched every minute of that series (I was a Pistons fan), even I said RIGHT AFTER, that Manu should have won MVP. No doubt.
Hey Shannon remember when Manu Ginobili got to start a game and dropped 46 points against Lebron and cooked him down the stretch?? I bet you don’t you bandwagon
I remember that game really well San Antonio went to Cleveland and they won 112 to 105 yep Manu Ginobili 40 I think it was either 46 or 48 points I believe it was?
You look like a pathetic loser
Steve Lerr nobody is saying Ginobili didn’t have great moments but I guarantee had more games scoring under 10 points than Duncan, Lebron, Kobe and MJ combined. In spurts he was great but what makes a player an NBA legend (not just a Spurs legend) is to have the consistency at elite levels.
Shannon, you gotta give Manu some love.. stats aren't everything. This guy had incredible impact on the court and on his teammates... Besides, not many foreigners around that have beaten us on the international stage. If that is not worthy of recognition, don't know what measuring stick you using
How old was LeBron when they happened lol he must have been a baby in the league
I moved from Detroit to San Antonio between the '04 and '05 finals, and I can tell you that, although Tim and Tony were better than Manu, the sound of cars driving down the street honking after Manu put the nail in the coffin will be burned into my memory like a nightmare for all time.
I think manu is better than timmy
Big 3 was no joke
Manu was by far the best player on the court in those finals... he was the Finals MVP and it shows you how selfless he is because he was robbed of it and still didn't care...
Do you still live here?
Malaki Cowboys better then Timmy are you a fool better Rev Parker yes
The Olympic gold medal proved Manu's greatness. ¡Gracias Menu!
As a Lakers fan, Ginobili was a problem to deal with!
I agree with Shannon in most cases but he just being hater right know
Mario Hernandez so u agree with skip that manu was better than duncan?
You stupid and don't know basketball if you think Manu better than Duncan
So you believe manu is better than Duncan 😂😂????
If u think manu better than Duncan it’s time to stop talking about basketball💯💯💯
He was just saying shannon was being a hater not that Manu is better then Duncan lmao Sharp was saying role players dont matter. Maybe yall should stop talking about basketball
Unc being disrespectful today. Ginobili definitely was a amazing player, and tough defender and made some clutch shots in big time moments regular season and post season.
Skip wakes up disrespectful
He was clutch but Manu is not top 50 All-Time lmao
international games also!
@@tribalchiefxxw9158 he's top 10
I really don’t know where manu is ranked but he deserves our respect and he was one of the greats.
Ik MJ is the GOAT ,& I was able to witness him but Manu Ginobli has been my favorite NBA players to watch. He's my #1 fav n his basketball skills & IQ are one of a kind.
Manu's a basketball pioneer, he's by far the greatest player to be impersonated. His swagger revamped the NBA
Allen Iverson
@@Top-Kek no contest, he’s also in the list.
@ReturnoftheBrotha yeah, bro! Pioneer when it came to play styles. Check the resumé!
@@darcuscoleman5307 he was the first player to get Respect for European players
Stop the madness. Great player. Not transcendent. Period
Skip is right, again.
Manu was more aggressive than Timmy, or any of the Spurs really
But to say Manu was better than Tim? That’s too much
@@mihir702 not that. His winning impact was bigger, his spirit his energy spurs wouldnt have won nth without him.
@@alejoarias1795 Is that why they won in 1999 without him?
@@alejoarias1795 The spurs won a chip without manu. And in 2003 when the spurs won the chip, manu averaged 8 points, 2 assists on terrible efficiency.
Born & raised in San Antonio Spurs fan for life met Manu the year he was drafted he came to my school & played ball with us little did i know he'd become one of the greatest of all time really feels good seeing all the love from around the world in these comments and of course from Skip #GoSpursGo #GraciasManu
GinobiliiiiI!! I never was a Spurs fan until he joined the Team. In my TOP 3 of all-time Favorite NBA Players. Loved the way he approached and played the game! Thank you Manu!
Damn spurs have had some legends on the team , Iceman , Tony Parker , David Robinson , Ginobli , Tim Duncan , kawai
Im from Argentina, i lived in Argentina my entire life, i followed Manu's carreer, Europe, NBA, Olimpic Team. Saying that he is in a pedestal in Argentina just or mostly because he won a gold medal is not only not knowing the Argentinian people, is being ignorant and disrespectfull. Manu is on a pedestal in Argentina for what he is, what he represents, what he has shown us he can do and how proud he make us feel. Most of that is reflected in the words of his partners and opponents in the NBA. What was reminded the oder night. Im sorry, i dont care if he is not his favourite player, but that does not give him the right to disrespect an entire country. His arguments, his words are just disrespectfull and sad.
This is America. We don't care. Keep that crying bs in your own country
He didn't disrespect your country at all in this video.
Loved playing with Manu on 2K. The guy was clutch.
@Lonzo Ball NEVA LOSS
When he blocked James harden lo
A man who won Olympic Gold, Euro league and NBA championships can't transcend systems? Shannon is a big time hater here.
Fish is a Problem the Euro league titles mean all of ZILCH. Every NBA legend could go over to Europe and become the Bull Russell of the that league. So just stop. He was NOT ONCE the driving force of an NBA championship. For 3 of his title Duncan was the driving force and the last title was a total tribute to pop’s genius system.
@@omieg89 legend is your word not mine. My point is that he's trying to equate Manu to a role player who flourished in a system. He's very much not that.
@@MrFishdixd skip took it too far
No cuz a real alpha male like a Kobe or Jordan wouldn't of came off nobody's bench
Manu is the most un selfish spur
The guy couldve been a superstar
Vuribo he was wtf.
@@swervo1506 definitely not statistically which is what most people look at when calling someone a "superstar"
What are you talking about he is a superstar Manu Ginobili was a superstar completely he was a youth Popeyes obviously you didn't pay attention he chose to come off the bench grudgingly but he was a starter naturally but he did it to help the team he was already a superstar you don't know what you're talkin about do pay attention
@@MrBacon-ou1kw being a superstar is not just about stats it's stats are part of it but it's a whole picture learn something
Manu is a superstar!! Doesn't matter on when he played
Shannon bro, blasphemous. Manu was always that dude.
Manu Mentality.
Like Manu.
If you know anything about or love BASKETBALL (not highlights, not handles, not sneakers, not "GOAT") you know Skip is 100% correct and that retirement ceremony was PURE TRUTH.
So tim dincan was all about highlights? How can you say manu was beter tham tim? Becouse in my opinion tim duncan is top 5 all time ahead of kobe and shaq and even if he is not everybody agrees he is top 10.
@bojo perez i don't know what to say to you...
Yes he is the best player from argentina ever, he is a great person, really good nba player, san antonio probably wouldn't have won so many championships without him... doesn't make him a top 10 player, or top 30 maybe he is top 50 but probably he is between 50 and 60. He played 25 minutes per game, 30 in his best years, started 74/74 games once and avereged 16/3,4/4,4 then started 79/80 games played and avereged 17/5/4. But hey if he played 40 minutes per game he would be top 5 all time...
@bojo perez They only left because they HAD to!!
Outside of arena management, few there were "clock watching", no "Wrap this up" type rumblings from a weary audience, NOTHING BUT LOVE... all for a nobody flopping whiney pine riding foreigner.
@bojo perez It's called agreement and mockery of opposition's description of him.
Read it again...
Shannon you Wrong!! Ginobili an all time great. If he was starting he would've had better numbers!
Beter than duncan? Beter than kobe, shaq, bird, wilt...? Beter than wade, dirk, garnet? Where would he be?
Hazardman IFFFFFFFF
That's a big IF. He didn't start.
But he didn't start. How can you be considered an all-time top 30 great and dind't even start? You're arguing against yourself.
@@MDCxThePG so now there's a stigma against non starters????
Well, his LBJ got spanked by Spurs most of the time. :D
Shannon actually got me mad on this one. Coming from a SuperSonics/Thunder fan, Manu is goated. Shannon’s disrespect is off the charts. He literally doesn’t make any sense in his arguments. “Ima give him credit” then proceeds to do the exact opposite. “Ima give him his moment” the proceeds to give a terrible argument why he wasn’t important to the spurs dynasty. For shame Shannon Sharpe for shame.
Got to respect Ginobili. He is a great player who played well for a hard to play for coach
Shanon, I just lost the respect for your opinions
Umm he’s exactly right
But judging by your name I’m sure there’s no biased opinion
By saying he’s not top 50? He’s not even a top 10 shooting guard objectively unless you are a spurs fan
Manu was great but top 30? hmmmm not sure about that man
I am a big LeBron fan, but this dude Manu? He's great! I agree with skip cause this guy never afraid to took last shot and the euro step and great passing ability, man he's way more better than LeBron in terms of passing.
And yes, Shannon, why don't you ask James Harden about Ginobili?
There would be no James harden without manu
Facts
...what?
@@brandonrice2833 what boy
@@brandonrice2833 harden copied manu style of play, even the eurostep and some passing skills
@@now_watch_this Even the game winning blocks 🤣
Skip is right on this one Shannon doesn’t know wtf he talking bout
I won’t say manu is better than Duncan
But manu IS basketball he just is he’s a deity
So manu is beter than duncan, shaq, kobe, bird, wilt...?
Skip is being biased on Manu he overrating him hard. This is the same guy that said scottie is not a top 50 player but he says Manu is a top 30?!? Manu good but not even close to Scottie Pippen. He not a top 30 player and Manu my favorite spurs player tried with Tim Duncan(I cant decide who I actually like better).
Manu is Top 100
@@TOGtheWizard you didn't read
Skip is right on this one. Which one? Being better than Duncan? Lol Manu is also not a top 30! But Manu was fun to watch!
Without Manu Spurs don't win championships. He was essential to the Team. I agree with skip his drive was as close as MJ and Kobe. Unappreciated yes to some extent.
R C first they won a chip before he got there. Two he did have a great mentality but for someone to say he was better then Duncan. That’s when you lose credibility. Shannon did come off as disrespectful but saying manu isn’t a top 30 player was/is true
@@daquanbeamon2635 They always stayed Relevant because of Manu in a tough era of great players. How many times did they keep going to the playoffs? I never said Manu was better than Tim. I hate comparisons when they are two completely different positions. Tim couldn't do what Manu did. But Tim did what he does best at his position. He was great at his Position.
@J Black Let's not forget the 2007 cav finals championship and the Miami Heat 2014 championship. In that year Manu was about 37 and still balling out. Every one on that team was ballin. That's Facts.
R C that’s the most disrespectful thing ever said about Duncan. Tim Duncan was the transformational player for the Spurs organization. You could have found 10-20 players in NBA history that could have played the Manu role as well as Manu. They don’t make many Duncans.
@@omieg89 Do you even know how to read? I don't do comparisons. But Manu did Beat Tim Duncans team in 04 Olympics. You can't take that away from him. That's under his belt. Tell me about a foreign player that has been that Trandescending? Actually Tim is one of my all time best fav players. I'm just stating facts and you shouldn't feel triggered by it.
First time I have to disagree with Shannon
He beat the so called dream team and took the gold came in and took the championship and was a dream to work with and beloved by his coach for all the right reasons. The guy is a shining example for any athlete in history.
Manu didn't start many games... sure ended a lot through (and not just with game winning shots or win saving blocks).
Ginobili won a gold medal taking Argentina in his back, there's not e even a chance of LeBron doing it
Gabriel Loiola think we found skips burner account
😂😂😂😂 dumbest thing I’ve read in my life
Yeah becoz lebron doesn't play for Argentina 🤣
Because team USA didn’t even care about an Olympic medal when they do no one will ever win it 😂😂
1) LeBron has a better chance than 99.9% of all players (past and present) to carry that team on his back to the gold medal.
2) What does thus video have anything to do with LeBron?
Skip: Takes a silent breath
Shannon: Now Skip I let you have you turn. It’s my turn to talk now.
Ginóbili was the King in europe when he leaves. Then goes to the NBA and make the Spurs better in a level nobody could imagine and then he win gold Medall with Argentina.
Nobody has a complete career like this
Luka is up next
@@brunoleal5400 Luka is a generational genius. even better than Petrovic. RIP
@@FatStarZzzz luka is no Manu ginobili
@@soccercodes7943 Whut?!? saying this about? I compared Manu to Kukoc... what about Luka?
@@FatStarZzzz you can’t compare kukoc to ginobili ever, kukoc lost 123-85 in the gold medal match against the USA, ginobili actually beat the USA 89-81.
Skip: Doesnt put Lebron in his top5 all time starting lineup
Also Skip: Manu Ginobli is somehow a top 10 of all time
Manu won 4 championships and his team never missed the playoffs vs Lebron's 3 (missed the playoffs 3 times IIRC)
You can't say "oh it's cause LeBron didn't have superstars" because Wade, Allen, Bosh, Kyrie and Love are bigger stars than any man whose worn a Spurs jersey not named Tim Duncan or David Robinson. It's true the Spurs had arguably the best coach of all time but LBJ is in the discussion for GOAT ffs.
Alot of people wouldn't put Lebron in their top 5 all time. No surprise there. Kareem, Duncan, Bird, Jordan, Magic. End of story.
Skip is full of it saying Manu better than Duncan wtf???
"Those who know, know." Amen
to skips point about manu comin off the bench, if okc did this with harden they’d have at least a ring
😂
They did... they lost n the finals
Okc did do that with harden and he choked in the finals
elastic774 manu lost a final series as well. just because you come up short one year doesnt mean it wont work in the future. but funny enough harden hasnt been to the finals since that year, so my point is he shoulda never left. even though he’s gettin better stats, he’s on a worse team that cant get any rings
@@ShawBoogey he had to go okc didn't have money for him at the time. Durant Westbrook they just resigned ibaka. There was know way he could stay
I had never ever seen a boring performance of Manu Ginobili. Even in a bad day he would do something special for the team. His impact on the game was unmeasurable. No Stats needed to talk about Manu Ginobili.
Manu was an amazing player, one of a kind. No ego just came off the bench and produced and won. He's top 40-50
Shannon should really talk only about thinks he understand, which is literary nothing...
Jiří Palásek right cause shannon doesn’t know football. One of the greatest tight ends who could break down anything in football doesn’t know football. Lay off the cookies, they’re getting to your head 🤣
Shannon was disrespectful but they had to make it a segment. So I don't blame him for that.
So ginibili is better than Duncan huh
@@thechosenhero8157 2005 finals YES TF HE WAS
Shannon has never been so wrong and that's impressive
Manu showed that he could be successful on any team when he won with Argentina
Us mens hockey beat the Russians in 80, didnt make any of them great
jon Johnson embarrassing comparison, it’s not the only thing that made him great, but it proved he could lead a team and not just ride other players like Shannon was saying
@@zackreynolds7590I disagree, winning a one off game is a lot different than a 7 game series,
top 30?? cmon skip. that’s ridiculous
Mr. Mars in impact 😂 listen
Alexander Parker no he meant top 30 which is a lie
Top 30 for sure
Top 35 perhaps
In impact or clutch situations for sure top 30
I don't think he was top 50 but I'm 100% sure this guy was awesome to watch and he was the reason all of us were talking 2004-05-06-07 & year after year and on every hood court after a lot of the regular season and NBA playoffs when the Spurs were playing. HE WAS REALLY SPECIAL!!! Thank you Manu💪🏽👍🏼
@@ardinhajihil5011 Don't understand at all your question or comment sorry
If Ginobli stayed in the starting unit then he would've outshined Timmy and Tony easily.
@@ComaAlpha That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. And I’ve been a spurs fan since 2001
Sounds like you never watched him.
Opinion automatically considered invalid
Shannon is in denial. Ginobili is unique and will always be #1 to San Antonio! If you change the game and everyone starts to follow your style of play then you are one of the greatest. Definitely top 20 ALL TIME GREAT!
Dude I love Shannon. But this today was his single stupidest commentary he’s ever made. Lacked nuance af.
ASM - yup
shannon a fool. always hating on foreign players.
Top 30 but Scottie Pippen is not Top 50?? C'mon Fam
Skip disrespects Scottie Pippen all the time just to make Micheal Jordan look good. Scottie Pippen is a better overall player than Manu Ginobili and it not even close. Scottie Pippen was the best two way player in the league and Jordan was the best scorer and closer in the league. That's how they won 6 rings. Manu great but he not 30 player of all time and he not better the Scottie Pippen.
@@shinoobigod3363 best 2 way player who wasn't Jordan.
@@qcthesxientist Nope... that's Kobe Bryant WITHOUT A QUESTION... btw, Kobe was an even better defender than MJ and go watch some clips of Kobe's 1 on 1 defense... he was insane...
Sport School love Kobe, it’s a close one but Jordan was a better defender. Also know that when he won his DPOY he wasn’t hype as a player he was still kinda hated as “the new guy” and it was still Bird and Magic’ league
Sport School Kobe was a lockdown defender at his peak but he wasn’t better than Jordan. Jordan’s physical abilities trump Kobe’s skills however slight it is.
I'll never forget game 7 of the finals against the Pistons who beat the Shaq/Kobe Lakers 4-1 the year before. It was that time in the 4th quarter when buckets were hard to get. Ginobili had the ball outside the three point line. He sliced through the Pistons defense and two hand dunked it. Changed the momentum of the game. It doesn't get more clutch than that.
You can tell Shannon hurt Skip with this one lol, he was about to cry.
LOL Facts.
brian scott lol
Yes I saw it.. he got the water eyes for 2 secs
Yeah because shannon is a childish disprectful kid on this one
Ikr Skip almost used the n-word lmao.