Decks vs the Data: Lessons from Joey's Decks | EDHRECast 250

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  • Nom nom nom! We dive into the nuances of Joey's Baba Lysaga deck to discover more about risk-taking in EDH and the difficulty of balancing type-dependent lists!
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  • @Geneo1700
    @Geneo1700 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Matt's reaction to the segway joke is PRICELESS

    • @mathimus55
      @mathimus55 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It truly hurt my side for 5 minutes after

    • @nickstart2299
      @nickstart2299 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His confusion morphing to bewilderment when the word segue dropped from Dana's lips 😭

  • @travis_approved
    @travis_approved ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The defeat in joeys eyes at the Segway joke actually killed me omg 😂

  • @AnakinSkywalker-mm6ge
    @AnakinSkywalker-mm6ge ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Joey, I think you should consider Yedora, Grave Gardener. It's a green 5/5 creature for 5 mana value that reads: "Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, you may return it to the battlefield face down under its owner's control. It's a Forest land." So every time you sacrifice an animated land to activate Baba Lasaga, it will come back as a regular forest land so you won't be behind on lands. You can actually use it to ramp by sacrificing your creatures as well. It also loops nicely with Matt's recommendation Llanowar Loamspeaker as you can animate the lands that come back to get 2/3 of the types your commander wants to be sacrificed.

    • @chadsamuels6512
      @chadsamuels6512 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was my first thought too. The ability to turn a creature to a land helps solve the land sacrifice complications while recycling what you sacrifice for additional value

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "It's important to commit - you HAVE to do the thing. Take risks, make mistakes, and get messy! Nom nom lands."
    -Joey. Paraphrased.

  • @ethanwiggen3567
    @ethanwiggen3567 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hearing Joey say that he sandbags his baba activations typically for the turn before his is really eye opening. I've been playing this deck for a few months now and started with his list as my initial build and I think that specific nugget of playstyle really changes the way I look at this deck. Thank yall for these deep dives into your decks.

  • @QU67Reacher6
    @QU67Reacher6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Absolutely legendary Segway segway.

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Segway segue*

  • @wolfsack1064
    @wolfsack1064 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The reaction on Matt and Joey's faces on that Segway was priceless 😂❤

  • @EpicGamerz01
    @EpicGamerz01 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Segway joke was so good. I was laughing so hard my boss came in to make sure I was okay

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'd love to see the Decks vs. Data series again sometime soon!

  • @toastradamus4941
    @toastradamus4941 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i built joeys baba deck and omg its fun. brought it to my lgs for edh night and made alot of people interested in playing here. very interactive and gains life like no other. thank you joey for giving me a new spark in playing edh

  • @Arrok
    @Arrok ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a funny coincidence that all 3 decks you looked at in this little miniseries had a few minutes talking about fun interactions with creaturelands.

  • @Shadow298
    @Shadow298 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Am use to Joey losing it when Dana does/says something random or weird but Matt's reaction to the segway bit was pure joy to watch. It pretty much broke him, in a good way.

  • @jordansams6240
    @jordansams6240 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never seen Matt laugh so much as he did in that segway and i gotta say, i love it

  • @Will_Morand
    @Will_Morand ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like the new Tyvar would be great in this deck. He’s cheap, so no worries with the mana, he lets you activate Baba the turn she comes down, and he let’s you use Baba on your turn and then still hold her ability up, or just give a creature pseudo vigilance, plus can bring back a lot of the cheap utility creatures. And if you don’t need him he’s another card type to use.

    • @AlaskaFG
      @AlaskaFG ปีที่แล้ว

      Instantly grabbed him for Baba!

  • @wolfsack1064
    @wolfsack1064 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That was one of the most hilarious segways I've ever seen in this channel 😂😂😂

  • @nickstart2299
    @nickstart2299 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ive really enjoyed watching you all talk about your deckbuilding choices!
    Your enthusiasm and joy when talking about them has convinced me to build (slightly tweaked) copies of Matt's Rah Rah Raggadragga and this lovely list by Joey. Ive had a Meren deck that Ive always kept semi-up to date, but I could never bring myself to tear apart. Joey's deckbuilding journey ended up really resonating with me personally, and Baby Lysanga looks like such a interesting take on the GB Reanimator/Aristocrats strategy. (No offense to Dana! xD I'm just not a Voltron player)

  • @CrabBaskets
    @CrabBaskets ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dana strikes once again with the out of left field segways!

  • @L4TMTG
    @L4TMTG ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After watching baba at the summit on quintessentials channel I was hooked. Absolutely amazing fun for a commander deck

  • @WoundedDuckify
    @WoundedDuckify ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This 3 part series has been some of my favorite. Really hope you'll all do this again with another deck each in the future.

  • @DrLizaroj
    @DrLizaroj ปีที่แล้ว +5

    JOEY I HAVE A QUESTION
    Given that you like multi-typed permanents, you draw a ton of cards, and you tend to blow up your lands, is there a reason you don’t have walking atlas in your list?

  • @Ecksiu
    @Ecksiu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the cards that is really frustrating for my enemies is "Glacial Chasm".
    Easy to play when I've got a "land-returner" in play and Baba ready:
    Sacrifce Glacial Chasm to Baby Baba, do normal turn, return Glacial Chasm to the board.
    Opponents can't deal me damage, I can attack, and the Cumulative Upkeep is always 2 life and nothing more. Lovin' this so much.
    And I try to theme it more into a "Landfall and Token"-Deck with cards such as Chatterfang, Tireless xys, Servo Schematic, Gilded Goose and furthermore. I do not know what will come out of this - and I'm loving it. :D

  • @wolfsack1064
    @wolfsack1064 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    19:56 please watch this anyone who needs it 😂😂😭

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt's reaction 🤣

    • @Onattamato
      @Onattamato ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt getting absolutely SENT

  • @roronoa1243
    @roronoa1243 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these kinds of decks that can be stuffed to the gills with random uncommons, it usually seems like golgari decks end up that way when I build them. Crop Sigil from SOI is one of my favorite cards ever and no one knows what it is whenever I play it.

  • @ShinyNachos
    @ShinyNachos ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You can see the life drain from Joey’s eyes in that segway. Good thing he’ll gain three next turn.

  • @camj1758
    @camj1758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont think Matt has ever laughed that much!! Ever! And Dana did it!

  • @SeeToTheLemson
    @SeeToTheLemson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked INSTANTLY at the Segway. Dana is a gem.

  • @john81blaze
    @john81blaze ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel alot .....lots of good ideas

  • @rossgilbert4768
    @rossgilbert4768 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just played my first few games with my "Baba's Your Uncle" deck. Thanks Joey for bringing this to me. Was super fun and will only get better as I get some more games in with it. Baba with Vito was my favourite!

  • @Mecal00
    @Mecal00 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weird seeing Joey talk about Bequeathal because that's a card I play in my Chatterfang deck. It's great budget card draw.

  • @scrattue
    @scrattue ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this triplet, Hope we get to see more episodes on this format!

  • @adoo765
    @adoo765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Joey you’re gonna love Conduit of Worlds on this deck, please try it out and tell me what you think!!!

  • @BrunoCasagrandaNeves
    @BrunoCasagrandaNeves ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2023 is peak intro and segway year already

  • @scottricks1676
    @scottricks1676 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never change the intro tune…gets me excited for the content every-time!

  • @serafimb2319
    @serafimb2319 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You don't have to leave it at those 3 episodes. I wouldn't mind more

  • @Kay_Drechsler
    @Kay_Drechsler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two things I would like to know from Joey about Baba Lysaga since I also finally built this deck:
    1. Isn’t Bequeathal also kind of a bomb in this deck?
    2. How important are cards that give “no maximum hand size” when we draw so much?
    Awesome video like always btw.

    • @EDHRECast
      @EDHRECast  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bequeathal is definitely cool :] Joey likes reanimating cards he discards to hand size, but no-max-hand-size could be great for tons of Baba players

  • @andrewsparkes6275
    @andrewsparkes6275 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blossoming Bogbeast/Pathbreaker Ibex + Mirrorweave/Sakashima's Will/Echoing Equation is the centrepiece combo for my own deck. Gotta love a sneaky Bogbeast!

  • @Kaxxaa
    @Kaxxaa ปีที่แล้ว

    I just remembered about your Coalesce partnership and I call it EDHRECollection

  • @ALymental
    @ALymental ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding the balance between removal, permanent types AND politics, I've thrown in parallax dementia and lignify in my own brew. They're removal you can retract at will for value/deal-making, both are enchantments and lignify is tribal!

  • @wunderbar5702
    @wunderbar5702 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New Wrenn and the Realmbreaker seems like a perfect card for Baby Lasagna. Animate lands? Check... Emblem with permament recursion? Sure thing! However, it could be challenging to keep Wrenn long enough to ultimate her. But once you do, the train never stops.

  • @motley_j6813
    @motley_j6813 ปีที่แล้ว

    was just looking through cards for urtet and thought myr landshaper would be an interesting choice for redundancy with liquimetal torque. It is only turning lands into artifact lands, but it itself is an artifact creature for when you are too tired of sacrificing all of your lands in the later turns

  • @guardianeifie
    @guardianeifie ปีที่แล้ว

    Pharika, God of Affliction, Renowned Weaver, Pheres-Band Raiders. All three are repeatable ways to make enchantment creature tokens for Baba to eat.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How Joey feels about baby lasagna, is how I feel about my Ganax/Iron throne deck. There are so many silly interactions I can do with that deck. Its pricy to build but man it ramps quick and burns quick

  • @Raghetiel
    @Raghetiel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can try Yedora, Grave Gardener in Lasaga. Sac your creatures twice!

  • @MrChicken-dc6il
    @MrChicken-dc6il 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    have you thought about playing dead drop in your baba lysaga deck bc your graveyard will be pretty loaded most of the time and you can use it on yourself or an opponent

  • @12jacobmar
    @12jacobmar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Episode starts at 4:25

  • @pistolpete7422
    @pistolpete7422 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do these episodes all the time.

  • @user-tl4ze2vq9i
    @user-tl4ze2vq9i ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Ghave deck that does many similar things, so I can feel Joey's excitement when he talks about it 😂

  • @ryunura
    @ryunura ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the segway joke because I've actually met Dean before with FIRST FRC

  • @tomfisher6422
    @tomfisher6422 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm wondering if Token generation could provide reliable ammunition for this deck. In that case, Doubling Season and Parallel Lives could come in handy...

  • @khathecleric
    @khathecleric ปีที่แล้ว

    The inventer of the Segway was also killed by his invention, which added a touch of black to that joke.

  • @davidclare9324
    @davidclare9324 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious about the card mortuary. It seems potentially good. You just draw the creatures you sac.

  • @Taylor_King
    @Taylor_King 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any room for things like Illusionist's Bracers or Lithoform Engine? So that you get double of her ability?

  • @koenpenne2661
    @koenpenne2661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question: is the new tyvar Planeswalker a good addition for this Deck?

  • @danjohnson1050
    @danjohnson1050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a deck list for this specific deck? I’d like to compare it to my baba deck. I clicked on the link but it just takes me to the normal edhrec listing

    • @EDHRECast
      @EDHRECast  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All our decks are linked in the description :) Make sure to click on the deck's name instead of the commander's name
      edhrec.com/articles/edhrecast-our-decks/

  • @JuQmadrid
    @JuQmadrid ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I get a link to the decklist so I can give the deck a try myself?

    • @EDHRECast
      @EDHRECast  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All our decklists are always linked in the description :D edhrec.com/articles/edhrecast-our-decks/

  • @ty_sylicus
    @ty_sylicus ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm hoping to learn more about Neceomancy from Joey here.

  • @Beaver_Rapsmith
    @Beaver_Rapsmith ปีที่แล้ว

    please do more decks!!!!

  • @zwolf4118
    @zwolf4118 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if joey has Staff of Titania in the deck.

  • @FriendlyNewt
    @FriendlyNewt ปีที่แล้ว

    Joey I think you should consider Belbe Corrupted Observer. 6 mana is a lot and your deck is already doing it. I know you like instant speed but 6 MANA 6!

  • @caseywellington4761
    @caseywellington4761 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope you do an Upping the Average on Feldon of the Third Path soon

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Segway segue needs to be a Short.

  • @yes.thatjanedoe
    @yes.thatjanedoe ปีที่แล้ว

    the real treasure was the segways we stole from Joey along the way 😆😆

  • @josiaskasemann5800
    @josiaskasemann5800 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think tiller engine would be an interesting include

  • @Osogladiator
    @Osogladiator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess me and the other Horror lovers were the only ones who liked Innistrad Double feature art lol

  • @olivierdebilde4292
    @olivierdebilde4292 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a bug on EDHREC. I searshed for Baby Lasagna and I've got no hit. Please, fix this ! I'm interested in this commander.

  • @styfen
    @styfen ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy Osgir is such a haus with Ugin's Nexus.

  • @melephs_cap
    @melephs_cap 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Read the title as Aristocats and now I want to see a cat tribal deck doing aristocrats things

  • @toastytcg1282
    @toastytcg1282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bruh that was the segway to segway all segways

  • @ShorinRyu74
    @ShorinRyu74 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    llanowar loamspeaker can't make a blocker because it's ability is sorcery speed only

  • @brendans1983
    @brendans1983 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baba, in a lot of European languages, roughly translates to old woman, or grandma 🇲🇰

  • @robsta6543
    @robsta6543 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lose almost always but at least I have fun, typa deck tech lmao 🤣

  • @daddymacsac
    @daddymacsac ปีที่แล้ว

    Erinis, Gloom Stalker has been an over performer in my Baba deck

  • @RequiesAeternaGaming
    @RequiesAeternaGaming 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aside from the commander, where the the draw/advantage? I'd be nervous if the commander dies and you're sitting with nothing to do.

  • @TaIathar
    @TaIathar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So basically, people who don't like politicking should play a Baba Lysaga deck? Got it.

  • @thomasmclaughlin4731
    @thomasmclaughlin4731 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these Daddies. Rawr

  • @jeffe2267
    @jeffe2267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds like this deck just instantly concedes to getting their commander killed twice in the early game.

  • @killswitch69698
    @killswitch69698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if it was spoken about in the episode, but myr propagator would be a good one for this deck as it makes copies of itself l.

  • @zacharyherring6146
    @zacharyherring6146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Embrace the weird. Daddy matt morgan

  • @mehatestuesdays
    @mehatestuesdays ปีที่แล้ว

    I listen to your podcast on Spotify. What's up with the horrible 2-minute long pre-roll ads?! They take so long, it starts to feel like a bait-and-switch.

  • @danmorgan7775
    @danmorgan7775 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a little surprised Joey didn't notice how good Bequeathal could be in Baby Lasagna. Enchant any artifact creature with it and you draw 5 on sac.

  • @ivrissgaming8006
    @ivrissgaming8006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Them being surprised that common and uncommon cards tells me all three of them need to build more budget decks

  • @lelandwhitehead56
    @lelandwhitehead56 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RE: Demonic Lore- If you aren't regularly sacrificing an enchantment and are instead sacrificing a land with Baby Lasagna's ability, you could honestly view Demonic Lore as 'ramping' because its not setting you back a mana. Just food for thought.

  • @davidh5840
    @davidh5840 ปีที่แล้ว

    kinda jenk but nuisance engine would be cute in this deck!

  • @ryansprenkle6356
    @ryansprenkle6356 ปีที่แล้ว

    This deck is great, and so was the episode, and I know Joey loves this deck....but I'm not going to lie, I kinda wish we got a different deck considering this deck already has its own video.

  • @nelsikegaming
    @nelsikegaming ปีที่แล้ว

    I really want this deck to be good but tbh it just isn't. I've been goldfishing with it for 5 days now and I just saw Joey play it in Tolarian Community College's video and it just isn't consistent. It doesn't feel like a deck that's trying to do anything in particular and just sacrifices for drawing but the rewards isn't worth the sacrifice. It's janky, I'm sure it could be fun but it's not winning a lot that's for sure.

  • @joelknepper7682
    @joelknepper7682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Matt's repeating jokes now. He's definitely done C in the dark before.

  • @EDHCoffee
    @EDHCoffee ปีที่แล้ว

    S E G W A Y is now blasphemous act. Wiped Joey and Matt out of the game.

  • @Naturessightsandsounds7040
    @Naturessightsandsounds7040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baba lysaga is like golgari anji just keep cycling through cards via sacrifice it kinda feels boring after the novelty of it where's off.