@@Sephiroth69 While the turrets do beep, without knowing if its tunnel or land, it can help add uncertainty and hesitation. Its part of the reason I think monitor is so strong on xeno and very underrated. a 16 meter TR can be very useful for mixing up tunnel vs land approach, especially if u can approach a gen from different angles.
That's what I thought, I think that's dumb though, they deactivate when you come out of a tunnel and the reason they do should be to give you time to break them. But nope, that's not that case.
I actually have been running a similar build of Lethal Pursuer, Eruption, Gearhead, and Nowhere to Hide. Nowhere to hide has been nice for people who catch on to your strat and can find them to secure the down and the eruption.
@@notOtzdarva Glad ya think so too! I've only recently gotten back into DBD this year (played on release but infinites were rough) but have watched your stuff for quite a while, and were the reason I decided to give it another try! Been enjoying my time in the game!
@@reuv8441 It's mostly there for aura extending on gearhead, and nowhere to hide. However like otz said in the video you have virtually no end game plan, so the earlier you can apply pressure the better and lethal's auras at the beginning help apply pressure very early.
@@FlipflopB I think he would have seen her if she did. I'm also pretty sure there's a split second where you can see the back of her shirt as he comes back around the gen
A really good build so far for me that got me to Iridescent 1 was Pain Res for gen regression, BBQ for info on hooks, his own personal perk Ultimate Weapon for unlimited info and Monitor&Abuse for that 16 metre terror radius in crawler form which i occasionally swapped out for DMS. I usually ran the add on that shows the gen progression for extra info. It was always quite fun running this. Good video and have a good day to everyone reading this!
@@krishnavasu3499Seeing the alien in vents using motions trackers was a big thing in the movies, so if it didn't do that here then that would be really stupid.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but playing against the xeno has been really hard so far. It could just be that he’s a new killer, and I’ll have to get used to him, but I’m having trouble so far 😅
For me it's sort of like countering a death slinger or demo in terms of dodging out of the way of typical movements..but it's still so hard considering you don't know when hes going back into runner mode. That's when I always go down
Got killed one time and bullied the xenomorph 8 times so far and I'm an average survivor. I think he is sooooo predictable and you can abuse it so bad😂
@@yw997 if he's predictable then your in low MMR lmao all mine have super runner mode recharge add-ons so it comes right back super quick right when it's unlucky for me at a loop
I like using the cat carrier add on along with any perks that can apply undetectable. Something about playing lore accurate tickles my pickle. I even used the same mannerisms as the Alien in the movies. Slow walking through hallways while on 2 legs and looking around sharply when I hear noises! It's too much fun and I don't even care if I lose doing it!
@@DeathstarsEG yeah but that can be the case for many killers haha, just saying that if you master the up then down tail throw like otz showed a couple of times
2:23 From what I’ve experienced and heard from others, I think the problem here is not that you need to go around the turret, but rather that the turrets have (what is hopefully just a bug) invulnerability to your attacks when they are on cooldown from you exiting your tunnels, so you either have to sit and wait for them to start firing, wasting precious time (especially if there’s a survivor nearby), or just get out of range and hope it doesn’t become a problem in the future.
Yes I have been playing Xeno for the last 2 days and this is exactly the case. Even if its not a bug I hope it will be changed, really annoying to see the turret and needing to wait before hitting it.
I'm addicted to the new trail of torment and I tried it on xeno. So so good to apply with pop and be able to sneak up on survivors coming out of a tunnel, performing successful ninja tail attacks before they even realize.
His tr is already small when in his crawl mode, pretty counter-intuitive since his ability already helps with stealth. Info perk/slowdown would be better
@@oscar3153Right, but sometimes turrets are everywhere and completely nullify your runner mode. So removing the terror radius while not having your power active immediately, can help in chase or to confuse survivors. Also i believe that being silent walking on all four legs is not a bad thing too. I've managed to ambush them with my tail while they were healing/doing gens sometimes. At least in my current experience
I really enjoyed using Pentimento with plaything plus pop and corrupt intervention. Corrupt helps in the early game so that you find survivors quicker thanks to the tunnels and the fact that it disappears after you down doesn't matter that much since you get the plaything/pentimento going plus pop is there to help with the regression even more. I do think information peks are pretty good on this killer as well tho especially discordance and tinkerer as shown in the video.
yeah tinkerer, bbq, MaA/ToT to complete the stealth factor, and one other of your choice could be really cool. maybe nurse's calling, lethal pursuer, pop, or nowhere to hide depending on what you feel is missing (healing/info/gens/info)
people dont like monitor but it's a 30% reduction in an already lowered TR vs. the normal 20-25% on a higher TR, so youre getting more out of it than usual. ends up being like almost half the usual TR. ToT with eruption and another info perk would be a lot of fun as well. kick gen, go undetectable, and perhaps nowhere to hide, so it's a combo of gen destroying, stealth, and info
My current build for xeno is: Lethal Pursuer Alien Instinct Hex: Devour Hope Hex: Undying Lethal is super good for this killer because you can apply instant pressure with your tunnels, and Instinct allows you to get easy downs on vulnerable survivors (I’ve had games of me bouncing between 2 injured survivors getting hooked and unhooked until they died). Devour rewards you for using Instinct and applies massive pressure at 3 stacks. Tail attack even allows you to hide the perk until the best moment. Undying gives insurance and occasionally aura info. My addons are the same as Otz’s, but I’ve been wanting to run the cat carrier one to make devour even scarier! It’s an aggressive build, very fun with little-to-no downtime (in a good way, not a Hux way). It’s also great for new xeno players who need practice with the tail attack (like me).
Hey Otz, awesome video! Didn’t even think about aiming over obstacles and swiping down to get a hit. I ran this fun build this morning with the xenomorph and got to rank one fairly quickly: Ultimate Weapon, Iron Maiden, startstruck, and Distressing. Also the cat box and harpoon gun for addons. Started each match by opening a locker to trigger ultimate weapon, then immediately finding a tunnel. The survivor’s screams made it super easy to track them down one by one, especially in endgame.
I use a very simple build with Corrupt, STBFL, Rapid Brutality and Lethal. Lethal and Corrupt to see where people start and immediately worm my way in the tunnels to find someone (usually the one who immediately goes for the turret), while Rapid and STBFL helps me being really aggressive against the non-obsession, or even the obsession sometimes when I can't hit the tail consistently.
My suggestion for a nice build on xenomorph would be: Monitur & Abuse Furtive Chase Game Afoot Scourge Hook: Gift of Pain As Add Ons two possible configurations: Cat Carrier Ripley's Watch or Multipurpose Hatchet Kane's Helmet I think this build is a bit jump scaring and funny to get the survivors off guard.
I REALLY struggled with this build, to me it feels like a full-on information build, was hard to keep pressure against a team. However, a different build worked well for me, giving a 13 winstreak Day 1: • Oppression • Pop Goes The Weasel • Pain Res • Surveillance However, I lost the streak against a team that gave me downs, but did sabotage hooks and denied them effectively, therefore I came up with the following variation: • Discordance • Pop Goes The Weasel • Eruption • Overcharge And this one is actually kinda similar to yours, but felt more effective before the downs started kicking in. Also, a couple less effective, but mor fun suggestions. Both of them are basically divide and conquer type, which feel awesome with this guy! 1. Healing (comes with Kane’s Helmet and Hatchet): • a Nurse’s Calling • Monitor and Abuse • Fearmonger/Discorance • Pop Goes The Weasel 2. Scream Hexes (use with Harpoon Gun & Cat Carrier): • Thrill of The Hunt • Face the Darkness • Ruin • Surveillance
I have made a build for xeno that I find is super strong and I have yet to lose. It also doesnt use top tier meta perks! The build is SH:Floods of rage, make your choice, monitor and abuse, and nurses calling, Add ons are (I think it’s called) Kane’s helmet(whatever one gives mangled) and the one brown wristband that breaks turrets that knock me out of my runner mode. Super solid build I highly suggest to you and my fellow xeno mains. -Your helpful neighborhood Grid main
I was playing Xeno with pop and eruption last night. By sheer coincidence, I ran into a group of survivors that all brought the perk blast mine. One of them named himself “the Terrorist” had chemical trap and blast mind and made it his mission to rig every gen and pallet he could. Let me tell you, there is nothing more disheartening then seeing your the time of your pop run out whilst under the effects of blast mine. But I couldn’t even be that mad because I admire builds, and this one just happens to counter a gen kick one lol
A good counter to this killer is to place turrets anywhere that force the xeno to commit to the chase and give no point in hitting the turret other than making you have to replace it. Such as around corners where the xeno is not able to see it until it is too late, on drops from heights where when they drop by the time they land they are already burned. Try to keep them away from generators unless the generator is far enough from the tunnel
Just wanted to come by and say that I thank you for being you. I've watched you almost since the beginning of your DbD career and watching you helped me realize lots of things about myself, which in turn helped me remember who I am. God bless your positivity.
I was running the exact same idea with Tinkerer / Pop, works really well on them! Also thank you for explaining the tail hitbox, I was getting some crazy hits without knowing how lol
10:23 Damn I was skeptical about the effectiveness of the tail attack but being able to "curve" over obstacles is huge. EDIT: After some testing, it seems there is no curve, the tail hitbox is just small enough to hit the tops of Survivors heads.
I found that dissolution is very good on xeno! Since youll be getting hits over pallets and leaving them down, it is very effective at deturring them or making them slow vault IE give you a free hit.
I half less than half the killers prestiged. Have had some success running Ultimate Weapon; Darkness revealed; Tinker and Jolt. So much info at times of my convenience. And tink and jolt to help manage gens
Is I just me or have matches against this killer been going so badly. Every match I’ve been tunneled hard or camped from hook 1 or I have teammates that only do gens together meaning the killer can easier monitor it cause of his power.
I ran whispers during the beta and when you're in the tunnels you can kind of look around and hear where the survivors are pretty easily because it's very quiet in there.
BIG REMINDER: Flame Turrets have motion detectors that can detect the alien from up to 41 meters away, even while in tunnels, and ignores terror radius effects. This significantly weakens stealth perks on Xenomorph, such as tinkerer. Keep this in mind when build crafting EDIT: I wanna say I do like the motion-detector feature, makes sense considering how often it’s used in Alien media. However, save for it detecting the xenomorph in the tunnels, I think it should be affected by terror radius perks. Tinkerer? Boom, gone. Monitor & Abuse? Reduced detection radius all together. I think this would make stealth builds on Xeno much more viable.
@@dodang_9147 so essentially the survivors will only know about alien comming bc it popped up from a vent right next to the gen. And its not like sadako where you can block it from being used. And im saying this as a killer main.
@@agustinnarvaez5251 um yes. that is the point. what is the point of having lower terror radius when turret gives tr+gives distance for survivors running through the turret? his stealth and teleportation is redundant with the turrets.
stbfl, alien haste hit perk, blood favor, and your choice of last/gen perk is amazing imo its also a good idea to not just try to hit with tail 24/7 especially if they are right near you. using stbfl ontop of killers you want to m2 with just makes using m1 less bad for you, less of a crutch more of a saving grace.
I've found surveillance to be really good on him! Not only is the aura after kicking really nice, but the passive extra 8 meters of hearing working on gens allows you to easily hear them on gens underground!
This. I run a very generator protective build with surveillance, deadlock, Discordance and a free slot (usually pop or eruption though) and have lots of good matches even with no add ons.
This is almost exactly what I've been running, except I've been running pain res over eruption, I'll have to try out eruption instead after seeing this, cheers otz :))
If you didn’t know, after leaving a tunnel the turrets go down. When they are on cooldown they are invulnerable. A little bit of patience is important after leaving a tunnel.
tbh i've had really good games with Save and Rapid the ability to tail stab the obsession and be able to attack quickly recover and them gain almost no distance is lovely especially if they are grouped up so i wouldn't cut those 2 out of the options list imo.
It’s a shame this DLC came out same time as TCM. I thought this would cause a big influx of players but more people are playing TCM. TCM is great, just bad timing for DBD.
@not Otzdarva I have a great Chase build for you!!! This is a build from Console, but it performs EXTRA well. Rapid Brutality Eruption Superior Anatomy Lethal Pursuer Parker's Headband Self-Destruct Bolt With this build, you are a Chasing MACHINE. Stacking bolt and Anatomy, you get 70% VAULT SPEED in Crawler mode, Target survivors with Lethal, Down survivors out of vents near instantly by combining Headband and Brutality, and Can vent to Survivors that scream off Eruption. This build has worked EXTRA well for me, I hope you get use out of it, I'd love to hear your thoughts!!!
Honestly The Xenomorph is so strong that you don't need any perks to 4k reliably. The 3k is almost guaranteed just by loading into a match. I've ran numerous Xeno games either running Hex Thrill of the Hunt for extra bloodpoints or nothing at all and just relying on the over kitted killer. It's an absolute nightmare to play against for sure.
Rapid brutality and STBFL are actually amazing on Xeno. I have been using them together with alien instinct and ultimate weapon and I havent had anyone escape against me yet. It is very true that the tail attack is extremely useful and you will need to use it a lot, but survivors do NOT expect you to go for basic attacks as xeno and you can easily surprise them and hit multiple survivors very quickly all while having 5% haste. On paper the haste doesnt seem amazing but in practice rapid brutality has secured me so many hits it's insane. It is very strong to just go for one basic attack and then catch up and get the second hit with the tail thanks to the haste. I promise it's a lot better than it seems!
Nurse is insane. you can see thru tunnels allowing you to find and kill healing survivors. septic and that one screaming perk from knight can also be of great value
i run discordance and pop as well but i also combo it with retribution and alien instinct on him. alien instinct especially has been super reliable for me on him because your able to get to the most vulnerable person extremely fast with his tunnels. a fun meme idea might be to use dragons grips and hide in a tunnel near the kicked gen to ambush the person when they get out
So basically stack gen regression, as with every other killer if you want to have a chance... got it Thanks :) I've been playing for 2 days with only 1 gen perk and its defo not enough. For some reason I see a ton of ppl with BNP's :( And no matter how fast I down them, I have games where I keep downing ppl in under 30secs back to back, high pressure like crazy, I've gotten quiet good at tail arcing ... But they still finish gens faster than I can do my objective. Just look at Otz' 2nd match here, he doesn't get a first hook until 3mins in... That is just the average game against a semi capable lobby. He only won cause they royally fucked up at the end. That should have been a 2k game at most.
I have a question, and I'd appreciate a respectful discussion. Why do significantly fewer players tend to use The Knight's 'Nowhere to Hide' perks, despite their valuable information-gathering abilities?
Yh I can agree that this build works well i have been running this build besides eruption which I replaced with jolt for the past hour and had great value out of it thank you otz great video once again
I’ve noticed that sometimes when using your tail, half the time you don’t really lose that much speed during your cool-down. I think it has something to do with dragging and the game giving you speed for a missed attack even though you got a hit
If you’re a chase horny person like I am, I’ve been running ultimate weapon, rapid brutality, stbfl, and monitor and abuse. For add ons, I use the green helmet for flame resistance and a pick between the brown ovormorph and iridescent one for seeing auras when gens are finished.
I’m struggling with this killer using his own perks. Monitor & Abuse has been really effective on sneaking up on even competent survivors; when in Runner Mode, it essentially reduces his terror radius in half (16 metres) from his starting 32 metres. Any other perk advice, I would really appreciate if you let me know!
I like coup on xeno. It's not game-changing like it is on Myers or clown, but it keeps up his lethality if you get knocked out of runner mode mid chase.
Tinkerer seems bad for it, trail has stronger synergy with pop and has potentially much more of a lasting impact. Xeno's ability to sneak up on a gen is limited.
Yaay another killer where you need to hold W great..... It is so fun to play surv nowardays..... I realy want the devs at this point just take out the pallets and block windows they are useless either Way......
Hex: Face the Darkness, Lethal Pursuer, Pop Goes the Weasel, and No Way Out. This combination has gotten me extremely consistent wins the past couple of days
Dragon's grip is real fun with tinker on this killer but it's not all that good. You can apply dragon's grip on a gen that's about to finish, go back into your tunnel and wait for it to proc and get a free down.
I haven’t seen anyone recommend this perk, so I might as well do it: monitor and abuse. While in crawler mode, his terror radius is 24 meters. With monitor it lowers it further to 18. It may not be a great perk like it is with myers, but I have caught people off guard quite a bit in my builds.
The turrets give intermittent beeps which increases as the killer gets closer. This ignores undetectable, so making the survivors oblivious, or making yourself undetectable (including during tunnelling) the turrets act as a terror radius.
I recommend using Monitor & Abuse, it really catches survivor off-guard, and by the time they notice where I'm coming from (despite me playing the giant Queen), they're pretty much in tail range. It's an insanely strong perk on her.
I knew discordance and tinkerer were gonna be mainstays on xeno but man, you really brought the punch with the last two 😂 as a survivor main, this is gonna be a fun but difficult killer to play against for years to come!
@not Otzdarva I’ve heard that every time you come you come out of the tunnel there’s a short period that disables the turrets and during that time you can’t destroy them
I love to use monitor and corrupt. At the start when the match begins, go into your tunnel and look for footsteps (use the addon to extend the range for that) abd just go from tunnel to tunnel after hitting survivors, try to get them off guard or go to a gen survs might be working on till the corrupt ends. Then i have bbq and pop on tbh this is a build that works the best for me 😊
ok i love you otz but please for the love of god stop suggesting quad gen perk builds in favor over some more interesting ones. Ultimate Weapon is such a strong perk especially on him, especially with Monitor and Abuse. Id just like to see more spice than the perks that have been tried and true for multiple metas. Tinkerer here still really cool! But the Eruption and Pop on top make it far less fun to play with or against. Regardless, thanks for the consistently very high quality content and great personality
ok so i just looked at the thumbnail and just heard youre showing alternatives, but I still think theres a lot of value to be gained from advertising less objective (generator) focused playstyles
I agree that it's really fun and satisfying to find off-meta builds for fun, however... If people ask me for a solid build recommendation to learn a Killer, I'm not gonna tell them to run four gimmicky perks. Some perks will be meta / popular regardless of what I suggest.
@@notOtzdarva You do say that people are asking for a strong build at the beginning of the video, and you do just that. I appreciate the builds at the end too, theyre genuinely really interesting, especially with your common use of Bitter Murmur, (a free, underrated, and never expected perk!). Plus, I love the creators who release both edited clip/montage content, and some longer unedited gameplay to relax to. I doubt they get many views, but the multi-hour long videos of many unrelated matches strung together are great, and very often show off you using less cohesive builds. I guess what I really should have said is that seeing a lot of strong builds leads to burnout (which ik you are all too familiar with). Ive been playing dbd since a month or so after the release of Trickster and the educational and entertaining nature of your videos absolutely contributed to dbd becoming my favorite game, and I dont wanna lose that. I wish more people found fun in surprising your enemies with creative builds, sure, but how fun the game is depends on the mindset of the players - and you make it very clear that different matches can be different levels of competitive, and when I see your or any other creator’s builds used in game it reminds me of how positively you serve this community. Besides, the release of Xenomorph/Kittymorph are gonna be super interesting, especially after I took a break from the game to get really invested in Baldur’s Gate 3 (highly recommend!). I hope you have fun with it too! PS Im a spanish second-language-learner and your bilingual matches are awesome
As always a great build otz. My favorite build so far is sloppy butcher, monitor and abuse, nurses calling, and the new xeno perk that makes the furthest injured survivor oblivious, I forget what it’s called. When I’m runner mode you have a 16 meter terror radius with MaA, which lets you get a lot closer and easily get hits on people. What I like to do is injure one person and then go after another one. When I down the second one, I hook them and the first is revealed to me, and doesn’t hear my small terror radius at all. If they happen to be healing with another survivor I can see them both with nurses my small TR allows me to hit the healthy survivor, and then down the original survivor, starting a whole new loop of my perks while the only other survivor has to go rescue. If they choose not to heal, my xeno perk gets a lot of sneak attack value, while my small TR contributes to hits on people unaffected by it. Sloppy ties everything together, by increasing the time to heal and making interrupted heals far more valuable. Very fun, stealthy gameplay with 0 gen regression perks. I’m sure it’ll be less effective when playing against higher ranked survivors, but I like to think I’m pretty good at this game so. The add ons I run are both browns too, the cereal rations to see turrets and the egg to not rely on my tunnels too much, which can make your approach a lot more predictable. If you find survivors aren’t healing that often, lethal pursuer can replace sloppy, and buff the xeno perk. Hope y’all enjoy my build.
@@zerekblackford6094 yeah I guess your right. I didn’t see till later in the vid that otz said it wasn’t a good choice either. But I did put lethal as an alternative to sloppy so.
I don't care so much about a build for them, I just wanna know how to aim the tail it's so frustrating I always feel like I am aimming too low and end up hitting the window or a dropped pallet. I'm sure it'll come with time but right now when people say it's like Nemmy I can't help but disagree because I love playing Nemmy.
One big mistake I see you make with your killer gameplay is you’re a little too stubborn about refusing to break certain pallets. Obviously if you break every pallet you’re playing their game too much but you waste a lot of time attempting tricky plays instead breaking a pallet or 2.
No, full stealth build. That’s all you need. We spooky in here.
Alien isolation in dbd
Yea but even with undetectable you have a territory radius that being the turrets
@@Sephiroth69 While the turrets do beep, without knowing if its tunnel or land, it can help add uncertainty and hesitation. Its part of the reason I think monitor is so strong on xeno and very underrated. a 16 meter TR can be very useful for mixing up tunnel vs land approach, especially if u can approach a gen from different angles.
@@EonofAeon when I hear about his terror radius reduction my immediate thought was monitor
What perks? Tinkerer, Monitor and what else?
Keep in mind that those emp'd turrets are invulnerable until they start firing. Better to wait half a second than losing crawler in chase
That's what I thought, I think that's dumb though, they deactivate when you come out of a tunnel and the reason they do should be to give you time to break them. But nope, that's not that case.
@Cartoonybun I'm 99% sure that's a bug. They occasionally take several hits to destroy manually when deactivated.
That's dumb as hell
The turrets are desactivated when you're out of the tunnel it's because they can't burn you right at the exit and give you some time to break them
@@Just_Abso The issue is that you're not able to break them until they're able to fire.
I actually have been running a similar build of Lethal Pursuer, Eruption, Gearhead, and Nowhere to Hide. Nowhere to hide has been nice for people who catch on to your strat and can find them to secure the down and the eruption.
Oooh, Gearhead is a great idea!
Nowhere to hide is my favorite perk. So many survivors hide nearby the gen. I've seen many Megs urban evasioning all over the place.
@@notOtzdarva Glad ya think so too! I've only recently gotten back into DBD this year (played on release but infinites were rough) but have watched your stuff for quite a while, and were the reason I decided to give it another try! Been enjoying my time in the game!
I think lethal pursuer is unnecessary. Alien can easily find survivors in the early game and apply pressure really early.
@@reuv8441 It's mostly there for aura extending on gearhead, and nowhere to hide. However like otz said in the video you have virtually no end game plan, so the earlier you can apply pressure the better and lethal's auras at the beginning help apply pressure very early.
12:54 you can JUST see Claudette simply continue to work on the Gen as you walk up the hill again
And then crouch walk around the corner of the gen next to the part you can walk up the hill on, where Otz didn't check bc who tf expects that lol
@@cynicalnightmare1108did she do that? It looks like she just ran away based on scratch marks
@@FlipflopB I think he would have seen her if she did. I'm also pretty sure there's a split second where you can see the back of her shirt as he comes back around the gen
That is a pro black stealther
Hello friends this is Otz or yet another victim of identity theft
A really good build so far for me that got me to Iridescent 1 was Pain Res for gen regression, BBQ for info on hooks, his own personal perk Ultimate Weapon for unlimited info and Monitor&Abuse for that 16 metre terror radius in crawler form which i occasionally swapped out for DMS. I usually ran the add on that shows the gen progression for extra info. It was always quite fun running this. Good video and have a good day to everyone reading this!
imo M&A isn’t really worth it with ultimate weapon but DMS is a super nasty pick with it that ive been meaning to try
what's DMS?
@@andresam0108dead man’s switch, it’s a deathslinger perk
so you tell me pain res is still worth running?
I believe whether you're undetectable or not, Turrets let survivors know you're close no matter what.
Yeah even when you're approaching from a tunnel, the turrets start beeping rapidly even though you're undetectable in the tunnels
Indeed, so tinkerer feels very bad in this loadout
@@ogge9296 I mean it's good information nonetheless, but the sneaky aspect of it doesn't really help. UNLESS they don't have a turret set up nearby.
@@krishnavasu3499Seeing the alien in vents using motions trackers was a big thing in the movies, so if it didn't do that here then that would be really stupid.
@@Frumpbeard yeah but like if they're undetectable it shouldn't work
Otz: Uses pop
Also Otz: Maybe we'll have chance to use pop
I read this as he said it
I don’t know if it’s just me, but playing against the xeno has been really hard so far. It could just be that he’s a new killer, and I’ll have to get used to him, but I’m having trouble so far 😅
Same bro
Not really. But still fun
For me it's sort of like countering a death slinger or demo in terms of dodging out of the way of typical movements..but it's still so hard considering you don't know when hes going back into runner mode. That's when I always go down
Got killed one time and bullied the xenomorph 8 times so far and I'm an average survivor. I think he is sooooo predictable and you can abuse it so bad😂
@@yw997 if he's predictable then your in low MMR lmao all mine have super runner mode recharge add-ons so it comes right back super quick right when it's unlucky for me at a loop
wish the tail moved around more naturally. staying in a static position looks odd
I like using the cat carrier add on along with any perks that can apply undetectable. Something about playing lore accurate tickles my pickle. I even used the same mannerisms as the Alien in the movies. Slow walking through hallways while on 2 legs and looking around sharply when I hear noises! It's too much fun and I don't even care if I lose doing it!
Gotta make sure to tunnel and camp Ripley aswell
That tail attack just ends chases so fast it's insane
it does if you good with it lol!
And people say nurse is op lol
@mrmelatik Xenomorph has counterplay unlike her at least
@@mrmelatikcause she is lmao
@@DeathstarsEG yeah but that can be the case for many killers haha, just saying that if you master the up then down tail throw like otz showed a couple of times
2:23 From what I’ve experienced and heard from others, I think the problem here is not that you need to go around the turret, but rather that the turrets have (what is hopefully just a bug) invulnerability to your attacks when they are on cooldown from you exiting your tunnels, so you either have to sit and wait for them to start firing, wasting precious time (especially if there’s a survivor nearby), or just get out of range and hope it doesn’t become a problem in the future.
Yes I have been playing Xeno for the last 2 days and this is exactly the case. Even if its not a bug I hope it will be changed, really annoying to see the turret and needing to wait before hitting it.
Yeah I think I mention something about this in the second match. It's a bit odd!
@@godofgore6667What?
@@godofgore6667literally no one said that
@@godofgore6667 who said that?
I'm addicted to the new trail of torment and I tried it on xeno. So so good to apply with pop and be able to sneak up on survivors coming out of a tunnel, performing successful ninja tail attacks before they even realize.
His tr is already small when in his crawl mode, pretty counter-intuitive since his ability already helps with stealth. Info perk/slowdown would be better
@@oscar3153 + turrets can still detect you
I don't have eruption but I have all the rest so I will try it out
I came here to say that it's not that bad it's kinda funny
@@oscar3153Right, but sometimes turrets are everywhere and completely nullify your runner mode. So removing the terror radius while not having your power active immediately, can help in chase or to confuse survivors. Also i believe that being silent walking on all four legs is not a bad thing too. I've managed to ambush them with my tail while they were healing/doing gens sometimes. At least in my current experience
I really enjoyed using Pentimento with plaything plus pop and corrupt intervention. Corrupt helps in the early game so that you find survivors quicker thanks to the tunnels and the fact that it disappears after you down doesn't matter that much since you get the plaything/pentimento going plus pop is there to help with the regression even more. I do think information peks are pretty good on this killer as well tho especially discordance and tinkerer as shown in the video.
yeah tinkerer, bbq, MaA/ToT to complete the stealth factor, and one other of your choice could be really cool. maybe nurse's calling, lethal pursuer, pop, or nowhere to hide depending on what you feel is missing (healing/info/gens/info)
people dont like monitor but it's a 30% reduction in an already lowered TR vs. the normal 20-25% on a higher TR, so youre getting more out of it than usual. ends up being like almost half the usual TR. ToT with eruption and another info perk would be a lot of fun as well. kick gen, go undetectable, and perhaps nowhere to hide, so it's a combo of gen destroying, stealth, and info
I love this chapter. I've been really enjoying playing as and against Xenomorph.
Oh, first game was very brilliant. Great map control, being everywhere just on time and accurate pops, congrats
FINALLY SOMEONE RUNNING DISCORDANCE. I have not seen a single big TH-camr running that perk and it just seems so obvious as a perk for Xeno.
I've been running pain res, ultimate weapon, dms and discordance on the xenomorph and it's honestly doing wonders
Dms?
@@rodrigovianna7257Dead means switch
@@rodrigovianna7257 It’s short for dead man’s switch
My current build for xeno is:
Lethal Pursuer
Alien Instinct
Hex: Devour Hope
Hex: Undying
Lethal is super good for this killer because you can apply instant pressure with your tunnels, and Instinct allows you to get easy downs on vulnerable survivors (I’ve had games of me bouncing between 2 injured survivors getting hooked and unhooked until they died). Devour rewards you for using Instinct and applies massive pressure at 3 stacks. Tail attack even allows you to hide the perk until the best moment. Undying gives insurance and occasionally aura info.
My addons are the same as Otz’s, but I’ve been wanting to run the cat carrier one to make devour even scarier!
It’s an aggressive build, very fun with little-to-no downtime (in a good way, not a Hux way). It’s also great for new xeno players who need practice with the tail attack (like me).
Hey Otz, awesome video! Didn’t even think about aiming over obstacles and swiping down to get a hit. I ran this fun build this morning with the xenomorph and got to rank one fairly quickly: Ultimate Weapon, Iron Maiden, startstruck, and Distressing. Also the cat box and harpoon gun for addons. Started each match by opening a locker to trigger ultimate weapon, then immediately finding a tunnel. The survivor’s screams made it super easy to track them down one by one, especially in endgame.
I use a very simple build with Corrupt, STBFL, Rapid Brutality and Lethal.
Lethal and Corrupt to see where people start and immediately worm my way in the tunnels to find someone (usually the one who immediately goes for the turret), while Rapid and STBFL helps me being really aggressive against the non-obsession, or even the obsession sometimes when I can't hit the tail consistently.
My suggestion for a nice build on xenomorph would be:
Monitur & Abuse
Furtive Chase
Game Afoot
Scourge Hook: Gift of Pain
As Add Ons two possible configurations:
Cat Carrier
Ripley's Watch
or
Multipurpose Hatchet
Kane's Helmet
I think this build is a bit jump scaring and funny to get the survivors off guard.
I REALLY struggled with this build, to me it feels like a full-on information build, was hard to keep pressure against a team.
However, a different build worked well for me, giving a 13 winstreak Day 1:
• Oppression
• Pop Goes The Weasel
• Pain Res
• Surveillance
However, I lost the streak against a team that gave me downs, but did sabotage hooks and denied them effectively, therefore I came up with the following variation:
• Discordance
• Pop Goes The Weasel
• Eruption
• Overcharge
And this one is actually kinda similar to yours, but felt more effective before the downs started kicking in.
Also, a couple less effective, but mor fun suggestions. Both of them are basically divide and conquer type, which feel awesome with this guy!
1. Healing (comes with Kane’s Helmet and Hatchet):
• a Nurse’s Calling
• Monitor and Abuse
• Fearmonger/Discorance
• Pop Goes The Weasel
2. Scream Hexes (use with Harpoon Gun & Cat Carrier):
• Thrill of The Hunt
• Face the Darkness
• Ruin
• Surveillance
I have made a build for xeno that I find is super strong and I have yet to lose. It also doesnt use top tier meta perks! The build is SH:Floods of rage, make your choice, monitor and abuse, and nurses calling, Add ons are (I think it’s called) Kane’s helmet(whatever one gives mangled) and the one brown wristband that breaks turrets that knock me out of my runner mode. Super solid build I highly suggest to you and my fellow xeno mains. -Your helpful neighborhood Grid main
Why are some turrets reinforced with titanium take like 4 hits to break ex: 2:20
I was playing Xeno with pop and eruption last night. By sheer coincidence, I ran into a group of survivors that all brought the perk blast mine. One of them named himself “the Terrorist” had chemical trap and blast mind and made it his mission to rig every gen and pallet he could. Let me tell you, there is nothing more disheartening then seeing your the time of your pop run out whilst under the effects of blast mine. But I couldn’t even be that mad because I admire builds, and this one just happens to counter a gen kick one lol
A good counter to this killer is to place turrets anywhere that force the xeno to commit to the chase and give no point in hitting the turret other than making you have to replace it.
Such as around corners where the xeno is not able to see it until it is too late, on drops from heights where when they drop by the time they land they are already burned. Try to keep them away from generators unless the generator is far enough from the tunnel
Just wanted to come by and say that I thank you for being you. I've watched you almost since the beginning of your DbD career and watching you helped me realize lots of things about myself, which in turn helped me remember who I am. God bless your positivity.
Ye same
I was running the exact same idea with Tinkerer / Pop, works really well on them! Also thank you for explaining the tail hitbox, I was getting some crazy hits without knowing how lol
10:23 Damn I was skeptical about the effectiveness of the tail attack but being able to "curve" over obstacles is huge.
EDIT: After some testing, it seems there is no curve, the tail hitbox is just small enough to hit the tops of Survivors heads.
Like ya cut, G.
Thanks for explaining the turrets. I actually thought some of them were industructable!
That's so frustrating. Xenomorph's tail hits the way Nemisis whip should hit and Nemesis whip hits the way Xeno's tail should 🤷♂️
Hard disagree. Whips/tentacles don't stab people dude
@@lunarpunk6530 talking about hit mechanics, not visuals
I found that dissolution is very good on xeno! Since youll be getting hits over pallets and leaving them down, it is very effective at deturring them or making them slow vault IE give you a free hit.
I half less than half the killers prestiged. Have had some success running Ultimate Weapon; Darkness revealed; Tinker and Jolt. So much info at times of my convenience. And tink and jolt to help manage gens
Is I just me or have matches against this killer been going so badly. Every match I’ve been tunneled hard or camped from hook 1 or I have teammates that only do gens together meaning the killer can easier monitor it cause of his power.
I ran whispers during the beta and when you're in the tunnels you can kind of look around and hear where the survivors are pretty easily because it's very quiet in there.
BIG REMINDER: Flame Turrets have motion detectors that can detect the alien from up to 41 meters away, even while in tunnels, and ignores terror radius effects. This significantly weakens stealth perks on Xenomorph, such as tinkerer. Keep this in mind when build crafting
EDIT: I wanna say I do like the motion-detector feature, makes sense considering how often it’s used in Alien media. However, save for it detecting the xenomorph in the tunnels, I think it should be affected by terror radius perks. Tinkerer? Boom, gone. Monitor & Abuse? Reduced detection radius all together.
I think this would make stealth builds on Xeno much more viable.
if only there was an addon that would disable motion detectors while in tunnel..
@@nickmachbr6958 or disable it general. another terrible designed mechanic.
@@dodang_9147 so essentially the survivors will only know about alien comming bc it popped up from a vent right next to the gen. And its not like sadako where you can block it from being used. And im saying this as a killer main.
@@agustinnarvaez5251 um yes. that is the point. what is the point of having lower terror radius when turret gives tr+gives distance for survivors running through the turret? his stealth and teleportation is redundant with the turrets.
@@dodang_9147 so have them affected by tr. Not straight up disabled.
stbfl, alien haste hit perk, blood favor, and your choice of last/gen perk is amazing imo
its also a good idea to not just try to hit with tail 24/7 especially if they are right near you. using stbfl ontop of killers you want to m2 with just makes using m1 less bad for you, less of a crutch more of a saving grace.
Hello friends, this is Otz, or at least that’s what the homeless man in the tinfoil hat says.
I've found surveillance to be really good on him! Not only is the aura after kicking really nice, but the passive extra 8 meters of hearing working on gens allows you to easily hear them on gens underground!
This. I run a very generator protective build with surveillance, deadlock, Discordance and a free slot (usually pop or eruption though) and have lots of good matches even with no add ons.
The second game shows just how balanced the flamethrower turrets are. If placed correctly, they are devastating to killers' plays.
I like running a stealth build. Alien Insinct, Trail of torment. Tinkerer, and discordance. With whatever add ons. Its so fun and reliable.
This is almost exactly what I've been running, except I've been running pain res over eruption, I'll have to try out eruption instead after seeing this, cheers otz :))
If you didn’t know, after leaving a tunnel the turrets go down. When they are on cooldown they are invulnerable. A little bit of patience is important after leaving a tunnel.
tbh i've had really good games with Save and Rapid the ability to tail stab the obsession and be able to attack quickly recover and them gain almost no distance is lovely especially if they are grouped up so i wouldn't cut those 2 out of the options list imo.
I haven't tested it out yet, but I think Xenomorph's Rapid Brutality will be utterly insane with The Singularity and his already lovely chase
it is. Oh god it is. Put STBFL and he’s so nice.
Singularity main
I would imagine with STBFL clown is gross with it too
Big up to that Claudette actually running a fun build. I only ever see p100 survivors running meta builds
IMO the best build for Xeno is : Discordance, Bamboozle, Pop and Pain Resonance. My favorite addons are the green haste addon and purple vault addon.
It’s a shame this DLC came out same time as TCM. I thought this would cause a big influx of players but more people are playing TCM. TCM is great, just bad timing for DBD.
I really enjoy monitor/bamb, stbfl, pop/pain res and tinkerer
Running Myc (make your choise) on xeno is like running stbfl (save the best or last) on demo. Easly one of the best perks you can have on her.
Swap Eruption and Weasel with Trail of Torment and Hex: Plaything and you have my absolutely broken Xeno build. It's literally not even fair.
7:48 has to be some of the greatest comedic timing I've ever seen in one of your videos.
@not Otzdarva I have a great Chase build for you!!! This is a build from Console, but it performs EXTRA well.
Rapid Brutality
Eruption
Superior Anatomy
Lethal Pursuer
Parker's Headband
Self-Destruct Bolt
With this build, you are a Chasing MACHINE. Stacking bolt and Anatomy, you get 70% VAULT SPEED in Crawler mode, Target survivors with Lethal, Down survivors out of vents near instantly by combining Headband and Brutality, and Can vent to Survivors that scream off Eruption.
This build has worked EXTRA well for me, I hope you get use out of it, I'd love to hear your thoughts!!!
The hitbox is like tetris when you can still slide the piece around before it is fully placed
thanks for explaining the hitbox Otz
Honestly The Xenomorph is so strong that you don't need any perks to 4k reliably. The 3k is almost guaranteed just by loading into a match.
I've ran numerous Xeno games either running Hex Thrill of the Hunt for extra bloodpoints or nothing at all and just relying on the over kitted killer. It's an absolute nightmare to play against for sure.
Rapid brutality and STBFL are actually amazing on Xeno. I have been using them together with alien instinct and ultimate weapon and I havent had anyone escape against me yet. It is very true that the tail attack is extremely useful and you will need to use it a lot, but survivors do NOT expect you to go for basic attacks as xeno and you can easily surprise them and hit multiple survivors very quickly all while having 5% haste. On paper the haste doesnt seem amazing but in practice rapid brutality has secured me so many hits it's insane. It is very strong to just go for one basic attack and then catch up and get the second hit with the tail thanks to the haste. I promise it's a lot better than it seems!
the haste is a nice setup for a good tail swipe angle, I like RB it just needs a certain mindset when using it. For example, I never respect pallets
Nurse is insane. you can see thru tunnels allowing you to find and kill healing survivors. septic and that one screaming perk from knight can also be of great value
i run discordance and pop as well but i also combo it with retribution and alien instinct on him. alien instinct especially has been super reliable for me on him because your able to get to the most vulnerable person extremely fast with his tunnels. a fun meme idea might be to use dragons grips and hide in a tunnel near the kicked gen to ambush the person when they get out
So basically stack gen regression, as with every other killer if you want to have a chance... got it Thanks :)
I've been playing for 2 days with only 1 gen perk and its defo not enough. For some reason I see a ton of ppl with BNP's :( And no matter how fast I down them, I have games where I keep downing ppl in under 30secs back to back, high pressure like crazy, I've gotten quiet good at tail arcing ... But they still finish gens faster than I can do my objective.
Just look at Otz' 2nd match here, he doesn't get a first hook until 3mins in... That is just the average game against a semi capable lobby. He only won cause they royally fucked up at the end. That should have been a 2k game at most.
If you haven’t already, you should try OnePumpWillie’s new Onryo build, its pretty insane.
"with the xenomorph coming out just recently"
i see what you did there
I think you have to wait for it to turn on if you just exit the tunnel. I think they have it where you can't break it immediately.
My main build for xeno is rapid brutality stbfl surge and monitor it works so well
"Hello friends, this is Otz." A very not Otz thing to say.
I have a question, and I'd appreciate a respectful discussion. Why do significantly fewer players tend to use The Knight's 'Nowhere to Hide' perks, despite their valuable information-gathering abilities?
I'v been using floods of rage, lethal pursuer, eruption and pop. its doing pretty good
Yh I can agree that this build works well i have been running this build besides eruption which I replaced with jolt for the past hour and had great value out of it thank you otz great video once again
I’ve noticed that sometimes when using your tail, half the time you don’t really lose that much speed during your cool-down. I think it has something to do with dragging and the game giving you speed for a missed attack even though you got a hit
I think of his tail kinda like nemesis whip. Pallets, window almost always use, and in tight spots use
If you’re a chase horny person like I am, I’ve been running ultimate weapon, rapid brutality, stbfl, and monitor and abuse. For add ons, I use the green helmet for flame resistance and a pick between the brown ovormorph and iridescent one for seeing auras when gens are finished.
I’m struggling with this killer using his own perks. Monitor & Abuse has been really effective on sneaking up on even competent survivors; when in Runner Mode, it essentially reduces his terror radius in half (16 metres) from his starting 32 metres. Any other perk advice, I would really appreciate if you let me know!
the competent survivors are rtarded then because the beeping gives it away
I like coup on xeno. It's not game-changing like it is on Myers or clown, but it keeps up his lethality if you get knocked out of runner mode mid chase.
Hello friends this is otz, until you change the difficulty
Tinkerer seems bad for it, trail has stronger synergy with pop and has potentially much more of a lasting impact. Xeno's ability to sneak up on a gen is limited.
Yaay another killer where you need to hold W great..... It is so fun to play surv nowardays..... I realy want the devs at this point just take out the pallets and block windows they are useless either Way......
I'm curious if Xenomorph's tail stab would leave a a wound more similar to a triangular bayonet wound rather than a knife given its thickness
Hex: Face the Darkness, Lethal Pursuer, Pop Goes the Weasel, and No Way Out. This combination has gotten me extremely consistent wins the past couple of days
Dragon's grip is real fun with tinker on this killer but it's not all that good. You can apply dragon's grip on a gen that's about to finish, go back into your tunnel and wait for it to proc and get a free down.
I haven’t seen anyone recommend this perk, so I might as well do it: monitor and abuse. While in crawler mode, his terror radius is 24 meters. With monitor it lowers it further to 18. It may not be a great perk like it is with myers, but I have caught people off guard quite a bit in my builds.
Do you think that the queen cosmetic has a huge bu-- I mean gives you a disadvantage?
A bit for sure, but it's a very cool looking skin regardless.
@@notOtzdarva agreed, bought it immediately. Correct me if I'm wrong but it's also the new largest killer model in DBD right?
The turrets give intermittent beeps which increases as the killer gets closer.
This ignores undetectable, so making the survivors oblivious, or making yourself undetectable (including during tunnelling) the turrets act as a terror radius.
discordance, pop, and machine learning have been working great for me on this killer
I recommend using Monitor & Abuse, it really catches survivor off-guard, and by the time they notice where I'm coming from (despite me playing the giant Queen), they're pretty much in tail range. It's an insanely strong perk on her.
I like the Alien tunnels, they are like playing Alien Vs. Predator 2010.
late to the party but I use this build but put in nowhere to hide instead of pop. You find more people and get hooks much much faster.
I feel like bbq or MYC would be decent, also maybe STBFB, but maybe that’s cause I’m bad.
I knew discordance and tinkerer were gonna be mainstays on xeno but man, you really brought the punch with the last two 😂 as a survivor main, this is gonna be a fun but difficult killer to play against for years to come!
@not Otzdarva I’ve heard that every time you come you come out of the tunnel there’s a short period that disables the turrets and during that time you can’t destroy them
I love to use monitor and corrupt. At the start when the match begins, go into your tunnel and look for footsteps (use the addon to extend the range for that) abd just go from tunnel to tunnel after hitting survivors, try to get them off guard or go to a gen survs might be working on till the corrupt ends. Then i have bbq and pop on tbh this is a build that works the best for me 😊
ok i love you otz but please for the love of god stop suggesting quad gen perk builds in favor over some more interesting ones. Ultimate Weapon is such a strong perk especially on him, especially with Monitor and Abuse. Id just like to see more spice than the perks that have been tried and true for multiple metas. Tinkerer here still really cool! But the Eruption and Pop on top make it far less fun to play with or against. Regardless, thanks for the consistently very high quality content and great personality
ok so i just looked at the thumbnail and just heard youre showing alternatives, but I still think theres a lot of value to be gained from advertising less objective (generator) focused playstyles
I agree that it's really fun and satisfying to find off-meta builds for fun, however...
If people ask me for a solid build recommendation to learn a Killer, I'm not gonna tell them to run four gimmicky perks. Some perks will be meta / popular regardless of what I suggest.
@@alowaskipeople can play however they want, just cause he advertises one build doesn't mean its the only one
@@notOtzdarva You do say that people are asking for a strong build at the beginning of the video, and you do just that. I appreciate the builds at the end too, theyre genuinely really interesting, especially with your common use of Bitter Murmur, (a free, underrated, and never expected perk!). Plus, I love the creators who release both edited clip/montage content, and some longer unedited gameplay to relax to. I doubt they get many views, but the multi-hour long videos of many unrelated matches strung together are great, and very often show off you using less cohesive builds.
I guess what I really should have said is that seeing a lot of strong builds leads to burnout (which ik you are all too familiar with). Ive been playing dbd since a month or so after the release of Trickster and the educational and entertaining nature of your videos absolutely contributed to dbd becoming my favorite game, and I dont wanna lose that. I wish more people found fun in surprising your enemies with creative builds, sure, but how fun the game is depends on the mindset of the players - and you make it very clear that different matches can be different levels of competitive, and when I see your or any other creator’s builds used in game it reminds me of how positively you serve this community.
Besides, the release of Xenomorph/Kittymorph are gonna be super interesting, especially after I took a break from the game to get really invested in Baldur’s Gate 3 (highly recommend!). I hope you have fun with it too!
PS Im a spanish second-language-learner and your bilingual matches are awesome
I have the best built ever I also play as the queen nobody escapes when I play
As always a great build otz. My favorite build so far is sloppy butcher, monitor and abuse, nurses calling, and the new xeno perk that makes the furthest injured survivor oblivious, I forget what it’s called. When I’m runner mode you have a 16 meter terror radius with MaA, which lets you get a lot closer and easily get hits on people. What I like to do is injure one person and then go after another one. When I down the second one, I hook them and the first is revealed to me, and doesn’t hear my small terror radius at all. If they happen to be healing with another survivor I can see them both with nurses my small TR allows me to hit the healthy survivor, and then down the original survivor, starting a whole new loop of my perks while the only other survivor has to go rescue. If they choose not to heal, my xeno perk gets a lot of sneak attack value, while my small TR contributes to hits on people unaffected by it. Sloppy ties everything together, by increasing the time to heal and making interrupted heals far more valuable. Very fun, stealthy gameplay with 0 gen regression perks. I’m sure it’ll be less effective when playing against higher ranked survivors, but I like to think I’m pretty good at this game so. The add ons I run are both browns too, the cereal rations to see turrets and the egg to not rely on my tunnels too much, which can make your approach a lot more predictable. If you find survivors aren’t healing that often, lethal pursuer can replace sloppy, and buff the xeno perk. Hope y’all enjoy my build.
Sloppy on a m2 killer is silly… honestly such a waste.
@@zerekblackford6094 yeah I guess your right. I didn’t see till later in the vid that otz said it wasn’t a good choice either. But I did put lethal as an alternative to sloppy so.
I don't care so much about a build for them, I just wanna know how to aim the tail it's so frustrating I always feel like I am aimming too low and end up hitting the window or a dropped pallet. I'm sure it'll come with time but right now when people say it's like Nemmy I can't help but disagree because I love playing Nemmy.
Yeah, you have to aim higher cause the camera is very low
i with they made Riply more like her and less anime-cartoonish, but i do understand if they had no permition to copy her face. Lovely exancion
"Mom i made a new build for a killer"
"Interesting build or 4 gen defense build"
"Gen defense build"
One big mistake I see you make with your killer gameplay is you’re a little too stubborn about refusing to break certain pallets. Obviously if you break every pallet you’re playing their game too much but you waste a lot of time attempting tricky plays instead breaking a pallet or 2.
every time you break a pallet you missing an opportunity to get better at tail wips.
I found coup is very good in this killer when you are out of power, but this may induce you to overchase and not do trick shots to get better.