Jehovah’s Witnesses & Their Anti-Black Culture
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Here are some of the links to the screenshots I’ve made.
Watchtower 1902 July 15 The Negro Not A Beast pp. 215-216.
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One more point. And this isn’t anti-black it’s just taking advantage of people. Watchtower has grown because of a free labor force. America has grown because of a free labor force. It really baffles me that the governing body get paid (and embezzle money. Google how they’ve been doing it since the beginning of the organization and investing in expensive properties for their own benefit and not properties for witnesses) and none of their members get anything in return. I would hope black witnesses realize they are in a second round of slavery to a bunch of white overseers. And it’s not volunteer work because the people working are being lied to and manipulated into believing they are saving lives. When in reality they are just free labor for a publishing company that disguises itself as a religion. And the poor members who are financially supporting get nothing in return. This religion doesn’t do good drives, they don’t get involved in anything to actually help the community other than offering lip service. Other churches will house the homeless or have group activities. At most a JW will get some help if there is a natural disaster. That’s it. Otherwise everyone is on their own. I really wanna keep JWs out of poor black neighborhoods because they are not offering a live saving work. They’re just recruiting poor people and making them commit to a life of poverty and free labor. Just like their ancestors. Common y’all. We literally just got equal rights for everything in the 70s. Don’t let this religion hold us back in time even more. - เพลง
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Well done! These are the same issues on race within the watchtower organization that I started seeing after leaving the cult.
It’s crazy how I was experiencing it and not waking up yet
@@whereskevan Did you not read jw earlier literature, it's racist to the max, I suppose they're starting to see "new light." LOL
i acknowlegded them way back then
30:25 - I was that guy! I feel highly aggrieved that my cultural identity and expression were suppressed. I've only recently, at 42 years old started embracing my cultural heritage 😢
I feel you on that one. You don't get the full experience as a witness. Well...in general you dont get the full life experience anyway, but definitely culturally you miss out on a lot.
same here
I read one of articles that you read to us.
Everything you said is the black experience of a JW in Africa. White comfort is more important than your African identity. Woke up at 35 and realized I know very little about being black
same
I am a European white woman and I originally joined the JWs, because I disliked the nationalist, militarist and racist sentiment in "my" country. Was I ever surprised when I found about racism in the JWs! I am glad that I am out.
I'm curious, which country are you from?
@@whereskevan Finland.
Us white folks lost our pigmentation in order to survive in regions lacking in sunlight. The default colour is black. Africa is the mother continent to all humans!
Thanks for this video.
It is to the black to work for that ,I amsure their arethousands who will inherit heaven as king too God Jehovah is not partial
Mother Africa ❤
That's for sure! In fact, there is more DNA diversity in Africa alone than in the rest of the world put together. I am white, of Northwest European ancestry, but I have more DNA in common with, say, a person from Vietnam than some Africans have with other Africans. If that makes sense.
This is a great video. I love how you're concise and get to the point quickly. You made a lot of good points. I've read that article about Rastafarians and it's funny that JW try to distance themselves since Rastafarians also worship Jehovah. Bob Marley was technically 'singing praises to Jehovah'. Just subscribed, thanks for this spiritual buffet.
Distance needed as Rastafarians do not serve Jehovah God as it is written in the word of God. They are not the only that knows Jehovah as Jehovah0 whitnesses ,many org knows that Jehovah is the name of true God.,but worship is another thing.
@@Goonapachamoothoo except Jehovah is not the name of God.. it was an invention by a Catholic monk. Even watchtower admits it in the aid to bible understanding book.
That is soooo true..we grew up in the Hood of North Philadelphia PA...and my mom and many of the Sister's were wearing long straight Caucasian style wigs!!! Smh
there were loads of pressure indeed. in europe, some families from togo, ghana, nigeria wore african outfits cos in their jw congregation back home they did, they used to tell me
I'm sure there are no Asian angels or other characters either in Watchtower art.
Definitely not. Everyone is white-adjacent in their art.
@@whereskevan .. white represents cleaness - dark represents evil.
I’m so glad you escaped the WickedTower. They do steal your identity. They even tell you to make over your personality. So sad 😢
preach
Keep doing what you're doing. Well done!
Can I ask how you found this video? I’ve suddenly been getting a lot of comments and just curious about how people found this
Hello. Yes, recently I visited family in NY that have been JW members for over 35 years.
I enjoy visiting my family. However, the JW missionary sessions are never ending. Very exhausting and boring at times, same talk, same stories. They will use any topic, world events or day to day social interaction to discuss or inference to end of time prophecy for the coming Kingdom of God on earth, and end to man’s government and chaos.
There was a discussion on the limited numbers of living and sleeping JW righteous, the non-righteous people, that will be awakened, live and be judged for one thousand years before entering heaven on earth or something like that? I was impressed how social media savvy, at JW meetings using personal phones and Zoom. I was curious about some of the topics discussed in NY and did a Google search and to my surprise. Furthermore, I found nothing related to JW teachings and history of racism. Your TH-cam channel is among the few recent videos on the subject. I find your views spot on to my experience and my JW family beliefs.
After returning home, I had a conversation with a friend about the experience with my relative in NY, on the topic of European supremacy and male dominance in the JW organization. My relive in NY replied, I and we in JW don’t see color, we see brothers, sisters around the world, there is no prejudice in JW. Men are the head and leader, and women follow. The woman is not allowed to teach and govern in JW. I did reply. My relatives are highly educated professional people. Mind-boggling stuff.
One JW member of the family refused to enter the Church funeral service for her mother. That refusal did not go well for her at the time. Presently, she is a bit more liberal when socializing with non-JW family, and will enter a church for funerals. Each visit, I learn more or get some clarification about the JW religion. When talking to my JW relatives, I will not ask any questions about JW to avoid endless hours of discussion and readings from JW magazines or books.
It has been obvious to me for many years that the Judea-Christian-Islamic religions are patriarchy, sexist, convoluted, and racism towards African people and people of African descent in my opinion.
Wow I just finished watching your video and realized I didn’t have to write what I wrote in the comments earlier. You already said most of my thoughts in your video. My bad 🤣 ✌🏾
haha love it!
My old congregation was more culturally diverse and one of my “friends” mother is white and her father who wasn’t in the organisation. She was soo extremely concerned with looks. She straightened her hair and wore a weave that was straight and long. She also wore makeup and nice conservative clothing and you would never see her in her natural state. I never really questioned it but now you have mentioned in this video I now understand why she did it. I have come to understand how white washed the religion is and racist.
Oh yeah I know a lot of people in my congregation that did the exact same thing. Always trying to be the furthest thing from culturally black when it came to appearances, and they were always viewed as more spiritual
I agree too, when I was in the religion, ALL black sisters " whitened" themselves as much as possible, this was in the 60s and more, sisters had to flatten their hair, payed lots of money for all those chemicals , the brothers usually had to shave head or very short hair, clothes had to be " white" no bright colors or African style dresses, the whole thing had a very " Stepford " people flavor, 🤢 My non jw husband very brown Brasilian was told to " dress and groom appropriately when coming to the kh, so he decided to tell them to f off 😅.
@@francinemirey1555 They deserved to get told off
Ah yes, the org "Americanized" other cultures.
Excellent presentation! Thankyou
So very well done.
Thank u did well . Keep it coming.❤
thanks!
ive beem waiting for someone to address this
Say less haha I've been waiting for someone to address this as well!
You Tube Channel: Irregular pioneer: Title: Black people should not be Jehovah Witnesses. Done 2 years ago so there was no need to wait. Worth watching. However this edition was appreciated.
When I as a Puerto Rican joined a JW predominantly Mexican American congregation in Chicago, they discriminated against me for being Puerto Rican. Same happened at the Dominican JW Kingdom Hall in New York. At the African American Kingdom Hall, in Harlem, I was identified as white enough and discriminated. Ironically, it was only at the Anglo American Kingdom Hall that I was received without prejudice.
Thats terrible to hear. Sorry about that.
I'm so sorry we couldn't have met I'm white however I love all races and people's. I always say to my husband you can always tell a Puerto Rican they have no fear to try to speak our English.
Love all you peoples
@@bernadette4484 Well, if indeed that would had been true, then it would have been far better than the blatant cruel isolation and unofficial shunning that I suffered for the five years I attended those who two Latino JWS hell holes at the hands of those Latino JWS hypocrites..
In contrast, at the Anglo American Kingdom Hall in Chicago found three Anglo America JW sisters willing to marry me and another JWs sister willing to do so at the Richmond Virginia congregation.
In contrast, the Mexicans and the Dominican JWS so-called sisters avoided me like I had the Bubonic plague simply because I am Puerto Rican.
Same outside, the religion. My experiences with Anglo Americans have been generally positive in that area. For example, I was welcomed into an Anglo American family when her daughter introduced me to them. Her brother became my friend. Earlier, as a teenager, an Irish girl introduced me to her mother who had no objections.
Two German American girls families treated me decently. In Miami I was introduced her family and they treated me very decently. An Italian family also received me hospitably in Newark NJ. In fact my cousin married into their family with absolutely no problems.
In stark contrast, and rather surprisingly, African American JWs displayed blatant reluctance to admit me into their family when they suspected that their daughters were interested in me. One African American so-called JWS sister angrily approached me and began enumerating everything that she found extremely distasteful about Latinos during a meeting at the KH just to make absolutely sure that I kept my Puerto Rican distance. What the hell she was doing at church is beyond me
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Another African American husband of a Jehovah's Witness suspected that his daughter was going to marry me, did everything in his power to disrespect me whenever I visited in order to prevent it. An African American coworker told me that his parents didn't want people like me in their family just because he showed me a photo of his sister and I dared to say that she was attractive.
So I guess we disagree about Anglo American sincerity in my case.
@@Radrook353 I replied but I see it was deleted. I initially said "It will never make any logic to me for anyone of color would want to be a member in that cult." because if you research jw foundation teachings it is extremely racist. I had posted the website where you can view it yourself, but like I said it was deleted.
Please research yourself. I was NOT referring to white people, I'm referring to jw Foundational Extremely Racist teaching, why would a person of color want to join that cult.
@Radrook353, That's beautiful that they accepted you now the question remains is how far did their acceptance go because it's easy to accept people who look very similiar to you than it those who look vastly racially different from you. I'm just saying.
I love your video and discussing anti-black culture in Jehovah Witness organizations. If I ever do a YT channel it'll be focus on those issues.
Thank you very much
Nowhere in the world have Jehovah's Witnesses lost their legal status as a religion or charity due to governments proclaiming JWs as having an anti-black culture.
Prove the above statement to be false.
Is Samuel Herd going to be transformed into a Kenny Rogers look-alike after he joins the rest of the 'anointed' in heaven?
Apparently so lol
That's a good one, LOL
😂😂😂😂 Right!
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Either that or bust!
Kevan,
just some thoughts on y our brilliant posting:
As a former JW for over 50 years, an elder for 30, I can identify will every point you made about anti-Black conditioning.
I remember being horrified to read an old Watchtower article suggesting literature not be wasted on Negroes, since they would have little use for it, considering their lack of reading skill.
Funny, but, as a JW, my erroneous contention that no racism existed in the religion was my favorite selling point for JWism.
But, looking back, in addition to the points you made, I've witnessed several additional forms of racism within the religion.
In 1970, my family transferred to what was essentially an all Black congregation in Little Rock, not because segregation was enforced, but simply because of the "territory" boundaries utilized represented where most Blacks lived.
But, the congregation swelled in numbers because Blacks from other areas of the city were permitted to simply attend at the primarily Black group with the "wink wink" approval of the mostly white groups.
I don't recall any Black brothers and sisters being counseled for attending outside their congregation territory. That sort of movement was simply tolerated and "understood."
Did my family experience some anti-white sentiment while "serving" there? Maybe a little from a small minority, but there were other subtle forms of racism.
Over the years, a couple extraordinarily beautiful, "light-skinned" Black women experienced resentment, envy and ostracism within the Black congregation. Both were confident young women, but certainly not arrogant or conceited. I was mystified at the level of intolerance by some, certainly not all, of the darker complected sisters.
Another phenomenon among the Black JWs was the capacity to act and talk white as necessary. Within the home congregation, talks and meeting parts were more spirited, colorful and humorous, but those same brothers would tone that down somewhat when giving a talk in a predominately white group.
Conversely, 70 year old white speakers, giving a talk in our hall, would sometimes try to "get down," so to speak, speaking in a style not their own, but in imitation of what they thought would be well-received by a Black group. That pandering did not go unnoticed by our elders and was not appreciated.
My family also had the experience of "serving" along the Texas-Mexico border in a city with 21 congregations, 20 Spanish and 1 English.
Despite the fact that many of the elders in the Spanish were professional men with college degrees and high skill levels, my scatter-brained brother-in-law, the Presiding Overseer of the "English Unit," was named City Overseer. LOL!
Speaking of college or university education, there is a discrepancy among JWs with countries outside the U.S. more tolerant of college education among their young people.
It was true also of the Spanish language congregations I was acquainted with in the U.S. Going to college lacked the same stigma as in the English speaking groups.
My filipina wife, never a JW, but with relatives who are, tells me that almost all of her JW relatives have college degrees, even those who migrated to the United States. I'm not implying racism here, just a different level of enforcement and understanding of Watchtower tradition.
Now, some thoughts on the plump, mostly white GB: All of them are at least two generations removed from the professed "anointed" I grew up with. The current GB are my age and I never considered I might be of that class.
Even my maternal grandfather, born in 1885, was in the second or third generation of partakers, not even alive when the first Russellites filled up the remaining slots of the 144,000 left over from the first century.
So, I can't help but view the goofy group now on JW.com as imposters, pretenders, but, then, that's actually what all of those Lord's Evening Meal celebrators have been through the years, feigning "spirit anointing" they've never actually received.
Thank you for the comment! You also brought up some interesting points as well. I can only imagine how a congregation can feel segregated like that. Luckily we were in NYS so there was always a little diversity in every congregation.
Kumusta ka?
I stopped reading when you said “extraordinarily” when you described the beauty of some light skinned women. Can’t do it. As if being black and beautiful is extraordinary. Microaggression…..
No such thing as talking “white”. Is talking while like Donald Trump, Joe Biden, or your local hillbilly? It’s called “code switching” and black people have done that to assimilate. You really need more education. Your comment is so cringe.
This is so true. That's another reason I left because once they said write letters to Russia but never did anything when cops are killing black people and they never suggested writing letters to U.S. president. They also was segregated like any other church back in 50, 60's
Exactly. And it’s an American religion with a base in NY so you’d think they’d touch on issues closer to home.
Omgg, I remember them having us writing letters (more like a copy-pasted essay edited by one of the elders ) to a Russian official when some of the brothers were imprisoned.
I never thought of that. Very good point.
Notice, you never hear a black vocalist leading any of their new music!!!
I think they had one black vocalist. Or at least someone with a soulful voice. I remember this from like 4 years ago with an original song. But in generally their music doesn't try to lean to close to anything black sounding.
@@whereskevan Been more than 5 years for me. Thanks
This was so informative and eye-opening! Thank you for your in-depth research and sharing what you've learned, especially sharing what you've witnessed from your personal experiences. You dropped facts upon facts. I continuously curve people trying to recruit me to their clubs/Bible studies/etc. for this very reason. It's predatory how they try to get you to join them. Trying too hard to convince me that it is welcoming/accepting of someone like me. Sometimes it can be so infuriating, but at the same time it's laughable.
Thanks for the feedback 🙏 Yeah any religion that recruits never shares their craziest stuff. This is why they have to recruit. Because if it was that good people would just join from word of mouth or out of their own desire. But it’s not so they go out trying to make members join so they can control how they feed them information. You’re right. It’s truly predatory.
Especially with witnesses. And it’s so sad that they gaslight themselves into thinking the whole world can’t understand their beliefs because the devil is blocking gods light. Instead of realizing their beliefs are just crazy and that the average person would call them out if they were actually upfront and honest.
@@whereskevan all that! exactly! I feel very bad for Black people who arestuck in these organizations after being devoted too long. I hope they find the courage to break out. I personally am studying religions on my own... it's intimidating because theres a lot to deconstruct. But I feel comfort knowing I can openly question what I read and my thoughts are my own and I'm not being brainwashed.
I look forward to more vlogs from you!
@@alisharo58 honestly I wanna learn about the spirituality of different African countries. Because if the concept of ancestors exists, then their shaking their head on a lot of us.
But it is exciting deconstructing them!
@@whereskevan I strongly believe that as well. Our ancestors want better for us, I believe they would never support us blindly following any ideology. I hate that many Black americans/Christians are not thinking critically about the rules/teachings of their religions, many of which were literally created to keep them (and all non-WASPs) in bondage. It’s frustrating.
But yes! There’s many books out there not centered on westernized religion and I have the best time reading them. I like challenging accepted beliefs. I feel grounded and closer to my ancestors and my God when I do deep reading/thinking. I hope to one day find my community here on earth that does the same. But until then, it’s a solo endeavor 🤷🏾♀
Jesus christ sent churches including exjws apostate to preach about the Jehovah's witnesses???????????
I believe even kingdom halls were segregated back before civil rights movement.
That is correct
EXCELLENT PODCAST!!!
just a rant haha
Hello, first time seeing you , Iam white, I agree with you , it always bothered me that that watchtower with Jesus and all the angels are white , I have only been to the memorial since covid , I haven't returned , I happened to come across the Royal Commission CSA ,, JW. It was like getting hit in the face with a brick , I never knew this was going on in the org , I felt scarred , fearful , deceived , and thought Satan would get me , and was I an apostate for reading that , I prayed about it , but I knew I wasn't , iam being shunned now , but Jehovah loves you and me , and all those who put faith in his son , I believe there is an unveiling happening across the globe , everything evil , in every aspect of evil is being exposed , so , dear brother don't give up your faith in our king Christ Jesus , our savoir , he loves you , you are handsome , you are worthy , and you are made in God's image , no one can take that away from any of us , I don't answer to the GB , Jehovah said , do not put your trust in men , so don't give up on him , just the org , God's Day will come , vengeance is his , I feel all of us has been spiritually high jacked for a profit , so be it , something good did come out of it , we all were able to know God's love , and to have a personal relationship with him , our faith in him and his son is what's most important , don't give up your faith , be proud of who you are , we are all one human race , that comes in different shades , that simple , love and hugs for all ,🙏🌈💖
I recommend you continue your biblical studies. A great place to start is with Yale University. They have their classes uploaded on youtube about biblical history. The first lecture is very eye opening.
Thank you.
Great video!
thank you!
JWs "Golden Age" magazine, July 24, 1929 page 702: "There is no servant in the world as good as a good Colored servant, and the joy that he gets from rendering faithful service is one of the purest joys there is in the world." I will say that as a child of the Civil Rights movement, I did like the JW's 1970's teaching that we are all one race, the Human Race. As 2 white kids, my wife and I were mentored by a wonderful mature black couple, Betty and Clinton. Our daughter and theirs were born the same year and they became best friends. Those were good times for us. But eventually, they moved and we faded.
This is the best example if racism that ive seen or heard. You are truly breaking this topic down
Thank you! Some of the people hated this video and said I'm making up lies and looking for racism lol
The role that colonization plays on us is heavy. My wife is suffering from menticide. While I’m trying to decolonize my mind she’s attending a 3-day conference for further indoctrination. Peace to you Afrikan great video that I will share.
Are you deaf? Asking because of the picture
My family was just at an ASL convention. And it's crazy how the indoctrination never stops
No, that’s the name of my podcast. Fresh Two Deaf.
@Brother...What's menticide?
New subscriber here. Hope to see more videos like this. Well done.
Thanks
In Revelation 1:11-18 on verses 14 and 15 state that Jesus has hair like wool and that his feet were like polished bronze. Thus Jesus was definitely not white. However, in every JW article pertaining to Jesus, he was always depicted as a white man and I always found that odd.
I did
This has always been something some of us talked about in the car groups for years... Also in the Branches around the world, like Africa and South America etc it's usually only one maybe two men of color on their branch committees
I think this is the best explanation of racism in WatchTower. There's so much I missed as a whitey.😊
😂 it’s okay. I was experiencing some of it and I didn’t even realize it
I agree with you that the org is plagued by racial bias which reflects in organizational policies and publications, dressing and grooming…basically the JW ‘
culture’
Preach
Wen I saw the thumbnail I was like damn I've never realized how all the angels & heavenly anointed r always depicted as white. Like damn
That’s the first thing that bothered me as a kid
Totally agree. When I was in i remember the white sister who oecked on the piano singing soprano and the bkack pol sounded so weird. Today i sing in my church choir and the singing and harmonies soynd so beautiful
When I was a child in this Cult, I asked my parents why there was no Brown, Black, etc angels. They had no answer for it. Even when in the bible the angels are described as being Androgenous and had faces of light and shit
I was in a congregation where a young guy was appointed an MS even though he had a flat top hairstyle like that guy from Kid n' Play.
When you really examine the J.W. organization. With its general cultural thinking. Mode of operation. And the way it often depicts things in its publications and media. It becomes very apparent the whole structure is best suited for middle class men of European descent.
But for black men who are really on the front line. And are living in a western country. It fits least of all.
Also, if you were a brother or sister in the sixties and were seen in a civil rights movement or protests you were subjected to being disfellowshipped!
WOW
I have locs and most of the sisters in my congregation but it's also mainly black BUT yea you hit the nail on the head that's why I stopped going my family also except my oldest son but hair in mostly black Halls are more lenient
They police black hair so much in this organization
Was looking for all that info! I've mostly heard stories from apostates from Poland so they, of course, didn't experience that in their congregations.
Yes sir please be about to say what i think ypure about to say 😊 yes in the illustrations the dark skin people were the slaves or the guards or the extras. Great show, first time i heard anyone touch on this
thank you very much brother
This really blows my mind. There are two or more Christian white guys from this city that choose to wear their hair in dreads. One of the guys used to go to my church with his African born black wife and baby. He was totally accepted as was his wife and baby. No questions asked. None what so ever. He is a great guy and a strong Christian. They are both good people liked by everyone. They are in Mongolia right now doing missionary work. The other guy (of the two) is active in his church also, musically.
We (my church) aren't worried about ruining our reputation with how someone looks or how they wear their hair. As long as they have good character and love Jesus, we accept.
I'm kind of against missionary work just because its like religious colonization. I'm not fond of the idea of introducing foreign religions to places that already have their own belief systems. It seems a bit disrespectful to me towards the local culture because it implies that you have something better to offer them or know better than their ancestors.
That being said I think looking at someone's appearance and judging them is very superficial and cults need to stop doing that.
@@whereskevan I don't know what to say about that. Jesus told his disciples to make believers of all nations. At that time all the nations were pagan just like some still are now, like Mongolia. Do pagans have a chance? So you think the JWs job is to convert only those in "Christendom" and no one else?
@@wfqsfg No I think what the JWs do is completely inappropriate and lacks respect for other cultures.
But still the implication is a bit narcissistic I think. Because it implies that what Jesus was teaching is true and better than what other people already have.
Because there's nothing wrong with being pagan objectively. It's only a persons religious beliefs that make pagan into a "bad" thing. Because to the people observing their traditions, its just apart of their way of life. And now Christians are bringing foreign beliefs to people who didn't ask for it.
I think the mindset of this assumes that christianity is the way that everyone should live their life just because "jesus said to go preach". But as you've seen Christianity has done a good job at dismantling cultures by imposing its foreign beliefs onto people.
Across the Americas & Africa there were religions that people held & practiced. And nothing is wrong with those beliefs. The people were fine with them for centuries. And all of a sudden here comes the "saviors" with some "good news" that no one asked them to bring.
It's like Americans going aroudn the world and bringing country/rock music to every culture because they feel its the best genre, meanwhile everyone else has a style of music that their community enjoys.
I don't believe in proselytizing religions. The Jews are a good example of not doing this. They just mind their own business and those who want to join can join when they want to. They don't interfere with existing belief systems
@@whereskevan Ok, I'll say this then no more. Why were you doing door to door ministry if you don't believe? To stay in good standings?
You don't have to answer the question. I won't respond anymore.
@@wfqsfg I thought I had the truth. And I realized I was making a mistake by going to people's houses. So I corrected my mistake and stopped.
As a kid in the 60's I could not wear my afro/unpermed hair.
18:00 to the JW’s credit, this article goes on to say:
“The weight of scientific opinion, therefore, seems to be that the lower average IQ scores of blacks can be explained largely, if not entirely, by environmental factors.”
And also:
“The question of the genetic basis of racial or class differences in IQ . . . achieves meaning only in a racist or classist society attempting to justify its discriminatory practices ideologically.”
It's gross how the people at the time were eating this spiritual food up
How did you end up with Dutch group/cong? Share if you like...
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And thank you for your input
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I am colored!!🎉🎉❤❤
I was in a Dutch Congregation because I was in the Netherlands
How authentic l is one when he she is a Jehovah's Witness:
("I wasn't, when I woke up in 1999)
I see two people on the beach
Ik zie twee mensen op het strand
Near the water, hand in hand
Vlakbij het water, hand in hand
The sun goes down, they are silent with happiness
De zon zakt, ze zwijgen van geluk
I just don't know her because that's you
Ik ken haar net, want dat ben jij
She smiles at him, he looks like me
Ze lacht naar hem, hij lijkt op mij
But that is not possible (because) I will destroy everything
Maar dat kan niet (want) ik maak alles stuk
I can never be that boy
Ik kan die jongen toch nooit zijn
That peace, that love, nothing for me
Die rust, die liefde, niets voor mij
But why does it seem so familiar?
Maar waarom lijkt het dan toch zo vertrouwd?
I love you as you see
Ik heb je lief zoals je ziet
But something isn't right here
Maar ergens klopt er hier iets niet
I wear a ring but I never married you
Ik draag een ring maar 'k heb jou nooit getrouwd
I am not myself
Ik ben mezelf niet
Or never been in all those years
Of al die jaren nooit geweest
I'm the pacesetter at the wrong party
Ik ben de gangmaker op het verkeerde feest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
I see two people, they stand up
Ik zie twee mensen, ze gaan staan
She turns around, we have to go
Zij draait zich om, we moeten gaan
Look into her eyes and see the same pain
Kijk in haar ogen en zie dezelfde pijn
Two people previously connected
Twee mensen eerder al verbonden
All that love, what a sin
Al die verliefdheid, wat een zonde
We both are but don't want to be
We zij het allebei maar willen het niet zijn
I am not myself
Ik ben mezelf niet
Or never been in all those years
Of al die jaren nooit geweest
I'm the cobbler with the wrong last
Ik ben de schoenmaker bij de verkeerde leest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
Oehoehoehoe, oh let it be the sun
Oehoehoehoe, oh laat het de zon zijn
(let it be the sun)
(laat het de zon zijn)
Oh let it be the beach
Oh laat het het strand zijn
Let it be the sea
Laat het de zee zijn
Let me do something now
Laat mij iets doen nu
Which makes you never want to see me again
Waardoor je mij nooit meer wilt zien
Oh Let it be the salt
Oh Laat het het zout zijn
(let it be the sun)
(laat het de zon zijn)
Let it be my dumbest mistake
Laat het mijn allerdomste fout zijn
But never let me forget this
Maar laat me dit nooit meer vergeten,
Never forget again
Nooit meer vergeten
Don't ever let me forget this
Laat me dit nooit meer vergeten bovendien
I haven't been myself or I've never been in all these years
Ik ben mezelf niet of al die jaren nooit geweest
I haven't been myself or I've never been in all these years
Ik ben mezelf niet of al die jaren nooit geweest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
(or never been in all these years)
(of al die jaren nooit geweest)
I haven't or never been myself
Ik ben mezelf niet of nooit geweest
(or never been in all these years)
(of al die jaren nooit geweest)
i was a jw member and i had a afro and nobody ever said something about it....
My family wear locks so it might be the hall 2 of my aunt's are married to elders
Great title, but your volume is low. 👍🏾
Thanks! Its just recorded and edited on my cellphone. No equipment
Exactly 💯
yuuuurrrrp
I'm Deaf exjw. Their anti-Deaf culture too
honestly I wanted to make an ASL video about this but I feel like my ASL is a bit too rust on this aspect. I would love to hear more of your experiences on this!
They’re ableist in general - they hate disabled and neurodivergent people 😢
True, authentic Christianity is the only religion in all of history that is not racist, prejudice or supremacist. This cannot be Denied or proven false 💕
IDK all of that. I think saying "only" is a bit subjective. Had you been born in China or Iraq you might not have the same view
I heard it said that Jehovah witnesses, black Jehovah witnesses believe that when they get to paradise everybody's skin will be white or turn to White. This is what I heard before from a man who discusses politics named Dr Randy short
This is not true. But this may have been true in like the 1930s or something early on. I don’t think any current black members have thought this because I’ve never heard this from anyone living.
And the truth shall set you free😮😢😂😊
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@1:27 No. Watchtower does not believe it's publication comes from God. Rutherford believed Angels beamed information from God into his brain, but that is old light. They believe God uses his spirit to direct them. Coming from God is like getting an entire book. Spirit directed is like getting chapters and outlines and having to write the book yourself.
Sorry if my wording was a little off. But I think people will get the point that the information in the literature is a reflection of gods thoughts.
@@whereskevan I believe they will think the Watchtower magazine and other publications and Governing Body is inspired. And they specifically said they are not.
@@b1crusade384 they said this in writing?
@@whereskevan Yes. They said it in writing and in talks by Governing Body members which ExJWs play all the time and cite.
I do not mean this in a disrespectful way. When I was watching this video, I was asking myself, when you were a JW or going to the hall, did you actually study the publications? Did you bother to learn about history and facts beyond the “agenda 🐂💩 some 👴🏻” sell to the public? Some of the things you said sound true based on surface knowledge and first-look but not on to someone with deeper knowledge that studied the things you refer to.
15:58 on the lack of depiction of black angels, I think JWs would most likely identify one as satan.
As he is shown darker/purple-ish in Caleb/Sophia
Facts
I was told that JW's are the true religion because there is no prejudice or racism in that religion when I was growing up in the 70's in this religion. I would find no prejudice or racism, that is until I tried to date a white sister, then all hell broke loose! An elder told me there are fine colored sisters you can have. Its best you marry them! This was a congregation in the north mind you!
That's wild. I've never heard anything like this and I was in NY
thx for courage to even post thiis
For sure! Someone needed to cove this issue
30:38 black funerals be doing the most and they can be long as ever. The pros they really acknowledge the person and let people speak on them and how they impacted people's lives
I was wondering is the NBA racist😂😂😂. Samuel Hetd was wondering😂😂😂
i grew up poor--1966-dob=====1 of 7 children. the middle class jws would look down on us and not talk 2 us before or after the meeting. chloexjw
Its finaly Jehovah God that created racism
I mean he did keep a group of people and preserved them special for a long time just based on race. The israelites.
Check out Awakening Truth’s.
I am a ex jw
Yes they had earlier ties to the KKK back in 1920. Just recently the Watchtower had pictures of Kenny Rogers look alike actors with beards as 144,000 only white men.Sad. Yeah JW use to celebrate Christmas too....change rules all the time. I think let JW blacks in about 1955.
tell me more about the ties to the kkk
@@whereskevan I've read it too, I can't find it now but the jw org did some favor for them, it was something like that.
Kingdom Melodies is some of the worst music ever written.
Excellent video. Just loved your perspective and bringing to light this very important issue of how Watchtower (like most religions 😉) use religion as an anti-Black tool to keep us oppressed.
I would just push back on one thing regarding defining whether or not someone is racist vs prejudiced.
Racism = prejudice + group power.
It's a system designed to keep one group oppressed to take advantage of them whether consciously or subconsciously. It's has little to do with someone's personality or how they treat you, but their involvement in upholding the system.
So that CO that was rude to you was absolutely racist because he was upholding the system of anti-Blackness by whitewashing your vernacular, which as you know has been a powerful tool since slavery to control our language and how we speak. Being married to a Black woman doesn't erase his white supremacist delusion, no more than a man married to a woman would erase his misogyny.
Again, overall, love your video.
(Sorry for being so long winded 😉)
I loved this comment. Thank you for that!
It felt racist but it’s hard for me to claim this without more proof. But all I can say is that he was really really southern man, and I’m from NY so I felt the cultural difference
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The senseless one has said in his heart "There is no Jehovah." They have acted ruinously, they have acted detestably in [their] dealing. There is no one doing good. (Psalms 14:1)
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Why Was Jehovah’s Name Removed From The Bible
First off, it was a MISTAKE to remove Gods Name from the bible.
WHY ?
As Author of the Bible, Only God himself has the right to change or alter the Bible. God himself gave mankind a warning in his own Word The Bible to NOT add to NOR take away from his Words.
This Is My Name For ever Ex : 15
Those who study ancient Hebrew Bible manuscripts, such as the Dead Sea Scrolls, are struck by the many occurrences of the Tetragrammaton the four Hebrew letters that represent Gods name. The divine name appears not only in those ancient Hebrew manuscripts but also in some copies of the Greek from the second century B.C.E. through the first century C.E. Despite the clear evidence that the personal name of God belongs in the Bible, many translations completely omit the sacred name of God. In 1952, the Revised Standard Version was published. That version omitted the name, reversing the policy of the editors of the American Standard Version of 1901. Why? The preface says: The use of any proper name for the one and only God . . . is entirely inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church. That set a pattern for many subsequent translations, English and non-English. w15 12/15 2:3-5
Excerpts from the Psalms in a Dead Sea Scroll dated to the first half of the first century C.E. The text is in the style of the Hebrew letters commonly used after the Babylonian exile, but the Tetragrammaton appears repeatedly in distinctive ancient Hebrew letters
Why Do Some Bible Translations Not Use The Name Jehovah For God
Jehovah is a pronunciation of the Hebrew consonants of YHWH and the vowels of Adonai .
When the Hebrew Bible was first written down in the Hebrew language, they wrote only with consonants, not vowels. So the sacred Name of God was written YHWH and likely was pronounced Yahweh. For millennia, Jews have gone to great lengths to avoid misusing the Name of their God, as he commanded them at the mountain after he delivered them from Egypt. At some point, ancient Jews began saying adonai when they saw YHWH. It wasn't until the 10th century that a group of scholars called the Masoretes put vowels into the Hebrew text of the First Testament. They left the consonants YHWH in 7,000+ locations to show it was Gods Name. But they added the vowels of Adonai to the consonants to show later generations how to pronounce the word: Adonai. So Jehovah is a pronunciation of the vowels and consonants as they appear in the Masoretic Text, though it is not how the Jews would have known the Name of God.
Out of respect for the Jewish tradition of not uttering the sacred Name of God, the Committee on Bible Translation for the NIV have chosen to display every instance of the Name YHWH in the Hebrew Bible as Lord.
Based on this commandment, Second Temple Judaism by the Hellenistic period developed a taboo of pronouncing the name Yahweh at all, resulting in the replacement of the Tetragrammaton by “Adonai” in pronunciation.
In the Hebrew Bible itself, the commandment is directed against abuse of the name of God, not against any use there are numerous examples in the Hebrew Bible and a few in the New Testament where God’s name is called upon in oaths to tell the truth or to support the truth of the statement being sworn to, and the books of Daniel and Revelation include instances where an angel sent by God invokes the name of God to support the truth of apocalyptic revelations. God himself is presented as swearing by his own name to guarantee the certainty of various events foretold through the prophets.
The Pope told an audience during an event celebrating a new version of the Torah that his decision to upend over fifteen hundred years of secrecy was driven in part by a need for greater transparency within the Catholic Church. It is a scandal to say one thing and do another, declared Pope Francis before adding that the Church is leading a double life by continuing to keep Gods name secret.
A source inside the Vatican Secret Archives told Sky News that the Church first became aware of the scrolls existence in the fifth century. The scrolls were uncovered by the Romans during siege of Jerusalem and the subsequent destruction of the Temple in 70 A.D. Nearly four centuries came to pass before Rome would hand over control of the scrolls to the Church in 463 A.D., the source explained. Upon inspection, Pope St. Hilarius issued a decree striking any mention of God's name (Jehovah) from official Church literature.
Thank you for the comment. But how is this related to the subject matter?
Kevan I am sorry you have seen these things makes me sick to think of that article on servants. I was blissfully ignorant of this . In our area the brothers were brothers in heart . I loved the blending . We ate together went toasm out in service. BUT what you say is true. All that attitude accomplishes is to push folks apart. I did wonder attires why Jesus was always white. THAT would have been impossible.
now u guys can have beards !! Yippee!
Jesus is black revelation 1 14 15
Man I'm not even sure if Jesus is a real person haha
You taking things that were printed and over 100 years ago by ppl are long dead and gone and trying to apply to ppl now. I don’t understand the purpose.
did you watch the whole video? Because it sounds like you haven't
@Mimi I did tho, you talked about rap, dreadlocks, why they don’t show black angels, that’s a very valid point, worldly hairstyles, how the governing body has a “token black guy”. I listened to everything you said and took it in.
How the bethelites are asked about the music they listen to, i know. I’m not stupid. I just responded to the first thing rather than all it at once, but if you want to be mean then 😂 you too.
Funny how many times you repeat the word black. Imagine a white dude saying the word white that many times.
What does this even mean. You can't say white?
I addressed in the video, if you watched the whole thing, that race is a social construct and I used this language for simplicity
In truth, they are probably less white and any other race in the 144.000. Getting into the "Governing Body" is more about how well you followed procedure or guidelines of the Organization.
Well part of following the procedure is pretty anti-black when you remove anyone who has listened to rap music within a year and you also make your black members go out of their way to make sure their hair is "appropriate"
@@whereskevan JT of critical thinkers said, and showed an Elder and Pioneer playing with, " Earth, Wind, and Fire when at Bethel you couldn't listen to their LP's . He could play music with them and it was OK. He was a black elder.
@@waldo9261 I'm not sure what you mean tbh and I'm not sure how Earth, Wind & Fire are related to Rap music. Can you explain it again?
According to JT you're not supposed to listen to Earth wind & fire music when it bethel. Please check out the critical thinkers blog
You're not supposed to listen to Earth wind & fire either like rap.
…and how about Asians?…do you see one???
Yes. I was in the Chinese congregation.
Go back to your roots Brother, Bantu international look them up they will leed you to all truth. Example Jerusalem today is a Hollywood stage, it was and is a Roman fortress call fort antonio. True Jerusalem is in south Africa in the kalahari desert lay deselit and waste as scripture says it would. The only place on earth the black jackal lives. Subsahra is the holy land.
I don't understand this comment
Kevin Kevin Kevin
Like I said, if I'm lying point it out directly.
@@whereskevan As if I haven’t numerous times
I have been dealing with people like yourself for years who claim to be truth tellers but when push comes to shove, their true colours tell a different tale.
Your attitude is disingenuousness and I guess being motivated by money than presenting facts is your M.O.
You know full well my comments are there and have no answer that will not incriminate you one way or the other. It’s okay I stopped waiting for a reply a long time ago. I for one know not to trust you and only hope the weak and gullible of mind wake up..
@@jahtruthdefender I don’t care anymore.
@@whereskevan Funny how you see or copy and paste and reply to my comments every time not containing my accusation. You are correct, “you don’t care” and that is for truth..
As you probably do know " negro " means black in Spanish and Portuguese, so if you're offended by it why do you call yourselves " black " most of the time instead of Afro-Americans which is the correct term?
We are just Americans.
Adam was Black/Christ was Black
IDK about all of that. I think they were fictional.
What do you mean anti black? They got Herd-man in there.
did you watch the whole video?
They have Herd there for the very reason it's political facade.
@@bernadette4484 well if that's the case, they should also get an Asian and a Native American. And a few more blacks of various melanation.
@@extraterrestrial4287 Herd is the first black member of the "Governing Nobodies." the first black man to hold any authority since the cult began in 1870. to date all gb's are white. That's defiantly the case
#anachronistic
Stop
Stop what
Hä?!?!?! 🤔
@Mimi
Already a blasphemous statement - Acts 10:34, 35
At this Peter began to speak, and he said: “Now I truly understand that God is not partial, 35 but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him.
Romans 2:11
For there is no partiality with God.
Matthew 24:14
"And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, .. "
.. excluding black people? .. search out only white people?
The dude in the video is clearly deluded.
Have you not watched the video? I'll tell you what's blasphemous, those racist Watchtower articles, they are the ones. I've created nothing of my own. I've only quoted existing information created by Jehovah's Witnesses. If you have a problem with the information, write a letter to Bethel.
@@whereskevan .. you're running scared - why?
@@whereskevan .. why the silence?
@@whereskevan .. your failures in life are your own responsibility - you can't blame anyone else.
@@Chris_Sheridan Dispute any of the evidence that I’ve presented and then we can have a conversation. The Bible is irrelevant in this conversation because no one is quoting the Bible. I am quoting the watchtower.
JWs correct...
This is the most anti-semitic hate speech I've ever encountered online.
Anti-semitic? How? Explain yourself with details and quotes please so I can address them
"anti-semitic hate speech"? What? LOL!
Attack the WT from every possible angle, but don't throw duds. This is a dud.
I think you underestimate how anti-blackness works and what it means for black people who experience it
@@whereskevan I think you should stop trying to read my mind, and get some perceptive. A lot of what you said in this video applies equally to white people. Stop race-baiting.
@@whereskevan Facts.
Jehovah God is not partial..
But in crowd assembliies there are lots of black anointed pehaps more than white chosen.
False I am bkack and having a white wife .of course their is taste of color.too.
what are you saying.
If JWs were actually "anti-black" there wouldn't be any black JWs. Stop gaslighting, it's not about race. It's about the Bible and one's relationship with God.
Black people can also be anti black. And so is the religion. If you can refute any of the points I made in the video I'd gladly listen
@@whereskevan You're right. Millions of black people around the entire world would join an anti-black religion. Got it. And you didn't make any points. LOL!!!
The video presenter is just gaslighting.
@@jahtruthdefender I'm no JW, but it's quite clear that this video is extremely dishonest.
@@patrickpettyjr.3134 Thank you for being reasonable and rational. It is an admirable quality I hope you never lose. I am JW and black. It’s these kinds of people that feed on opposers biased racial intentions. The like want divide and the article minuscule portion was disingenuously used to feed that narrative. Have a good weekend
Well done, Kevan. You are right in your understanding, however it is wrost.
Yeah Kevin is so right in *his* understanding that he almost plagiarises a video from three years ago on the very same minute extract from the whole article. Maybe you should read the article and come to your own conclusions instead letting a race baiter catchyou
Did you get disfellowshipped for homosexuality?
No because I'm not disfellowshipped
@@whereskevan you look and sound gay. Alot of Apostates live immoral lives and want to bash JWs for being disfellowshipped
@@BookerTAdams Well this is called "ignorance". I'll explain why because "gay" doesn't have a sound. It's not a monolith. The same way sounding "black" doesn't exist. There are a lot of people who you might think are straight who are secretly gay. Hence why people come out.
Like I said, I'm not disfellowshipped so that's irrelevant.
I think you're assuming that the only way JWs can be criticized is by a former member with a bad experience. If you've made it to the end of the video you'll see me talk about my experiences and how racism wasn't a huge part of it. I've mostly had mildly good experiences.
That being said, the best person to give an in-depth critique of any organization is someone who was in it and understands it from different angles. JWs only see it from one angle. "Worldly" people see it from another angle. The only people who can see it from both angles are those who have left.
But you're headed in the right direction since you've watched this video. The bible says to keep searching and keep proving the truth to yourself. You've now seen the racist comments from Jehovah's Organization, and you've seen how they systemically encourage anti-black appearances and styles. It's your choice now to either inform other people in your organization or ignore it as if you're unaware now.
@@BookerTAdams You are only repeating the black and white thinking the governing body told you to say about Apostates. Most apostates are just people who decided to stop ignoring their doubts and find real answers because any sane person would do that. They are sharing their negative experiences or relatable experiences or they will share proof of the watchtowers past or present inaccuracies. But watchtower cannot stand any type of scrutiny and criticism which is why they will demonize anyone that has doubts and questions them and make other rank and file JW's to shun the individual.
@@BookerTAdams This is what religion does. It corrupts the mind. It creates cowardice. It refuses to see what is immoral and attaches immorality to that which is not. You have it backwards. Your immorality is minimizing humanity. Most "apostates" REFUSE to be immoral by denouncing the cults and understanding what it means to be a human being and work in the service of humanity with empathy and compassion AND INCLUSION and celebration of life.. And most, if not all, religious beliefs are cults. Here is an example of the immorality in the JW Cult: The story of a child that was in the hospital that was going to DIE without a blood transfusion. The parents was torn. They were in the hospital room with the elders when the doctor confirmed that the child would die without the procedure. The parents agreed to have it done. The elders stormed out of the room and one of them yelled back, "I HOPE HE DIES OF AIDES!!" (And you know someone can be gay without acting on it right? So your god crates a human condition and prohibits expression of love and completion and fulfillment of being HUMAN. Fuk that!)